3 News polls mums and dads

Written By: - Date published: 12:15 pm, August 10th, 2012 - 43 comments
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3 News had a standard political poll out this week, which has been covered elsewhere. It’s always worth waiting for the second day story with a 3 News poll – the day after the main event they have a piece on some of the secondary questions that they asked the punters. This time it was on our intentions with respect to buying our own assets:

Poll: Few Kiwis likely to purchase assets

New 3 News Reid Research poll results show few New Zealanders are putting their hands up to buy shares in the partial asset sales. … The Government wants the first asset sale, Mighty River Power, to go ahead by November.

So 3 News asked voters in our latest poll, will you buy shares:
17 percent said it was very likely
26 percent said they did not know
57 percent said no, they won’t

“Most New Zealanders don’t have spare cash hanging around and won’t be able to buy shares,” says Green Party leader Russel Norman.

17 percent is not high, and even fewer will go through with it, likely all dyed-in-the-wool tories anyway. The asset sales are not going to create the shareholding society that the Nats sometimes use as an excuse for flogging of our assets. Aussie mums and dads might do all right out of this, but the vast majority of Kiwi ones are going to get shafted with higher power prices and nothing else.

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  1. Lanthanide 1
    10 August 2012 at 12:23 pm

    Pity they didn’t ask “why or why not”.

  2. Cnut 2
    10 August 2012 at 12:55 pm

    All dye-in-the-wool tories?

    I wonder how many Labour MPs will buy shares if they become available.

    I’m certainly not a dyed-in-the-wool tory and don’t support asset sales but if they are sold I’m up for as many as I can get because I can’t see anything to be gained by not doing so, and at least the ones I get WILL be held by a mom-and-dad New Zealander rather than some fund manager’s portfolio as are my Contact shares still – and I wouldn’t condemn any Labour MP for taking the same decision.

    • bbfloyd 2.1
      10 August 2012 at 2:10 pm

      You may not be a “dyed in the wool tory”, but you still play their silly games… How stupid do you think people are?

      Or are you such a tory that the intellect required to fathom how easily your reactionary posturing can be seen through is missing?

      Tip for the intellectually challenged…. speculating on the behavior of labour mp’s at the first opportunity(relevant or not)is a dead giveaway when it comes to spotting a “dyed in the wool” mossbacked tory…..

    • Fortran 2.2
      11 August 2012 at 1:49 pm

      Cnut

      Every Kiwisaver will have a share. The Fund Managers cannot wait to get their hands on every share available to them.
      They consider that the partial SOE’s are a good long term investment for their members I’m told.

  3. shorts 3
    10 August 2012 at 12:55 pm

    I’d suggest there’s a good % of chardonnay socialists who won’t be turning their noses up at the share float

    how many Labour MPs do you think will grab a chunk?

    • bbfloyd 3.1
      10 August 2012 at 2:21 pm

      how boring shorty…. you are as obvious as cnutty above…..Do you tories have no imagination whatever? Or is smugness and self importance a positive trait in toryland(fantasyland to the uninformed)…?

      • shorts 3.1.1
        10 August 2012 at 3:52 pm

        I’m no tory thank you very much bbfloyd and am insulted by your allegation, but will discount it as you don’t know me

        I’m not smug, I am concerned that some within the so called left wing party will partake in the supposed windfalls of the partial privatisation of our assets – which is of course their right… but one most of us poor working stiffs a) can’t afford and b) don’t want to happen in the first place

        sorry if I startled your high horse

      • Cnut 3.1.2
        10 August 2012 at 6:04 pm

        Fact: subject to it stacking up as a sensible investment I intend purchasing a tranche of Mighty River Power shares should they become available.

        Fact: I have never voted for any “right-wing” party in my life.

        Therefore Fact: not all asset-sales shares will go to “dyed-in-the-wool” Tories.

        Comment is free, bbfloyd, but as the Guardian maintains: “facts are sacred.”

        To comment on your points – though it isn’t clear to me what they actually are – I have some money to invest. I’m not sure if that offends you in itself (and I would argue it doesn’t make me a tory whether I want to be one or not) and if it does what you think I should do about it (make sure I spend all my income when it arrives on ‘things’ whether I need them or not, or on booze or on the biggest mortgage I can support or on horses or ladies or whatever so that I’m always broke by next payday?) but the fact is I have some money to invest and the Government, stupidly in my opinion, might be offering me an opportunity to invest in Mighty River Power.

        On the face of it, it looks to be a good investment: secure, likely to grow and with a moderate income stream – but that’s my opinion, not fact. I suspect the Government will offer it at the low end of its valuation, in part to try make it attractive to ‘mums and dads’ investors like me and in part to avoid getting egg on its face with a Facebook-type float fiasco, which to me makes it look an even better investment. Plus the idiot Goverment is even offering me a bonus for doing something I would probably do anyway which makes what looks like a good investment look even better. Of course I’ve still to look through the Prospectus and the Government has still to pursuade me that Maori claims to water aren’t going to be a problem but subject to that it looks to me to be a sensible investment – and sensible investments in New Zealand are pretty rare beasts as anyone who invested in Hanover et al will tell you.

        Now, the New Zealand Labour Party could tomorrow stop me – and I suspect a great many people – from considering partaking of this sale by announcing that as soon as it is back in power it will re-nationalise all New Zealand power companies and run them as I believe they should be run – as a single, integrated system and as a common public utility at cost. Do I hear any such announcement from the Labour Party?

        If I chose not to invest in these assets sales would it stop them? Would it in fact have any impact on them whatsoever? Would anyone even notice? Sure if the NZ Labour Party was organising a boycott of the share issue I would sign up to and, say, promise not to buy any shares if, say 70% of New Zealanders made the same promise (for whatever reason) which boycott would have a meaningful effect on the sale. Is the New Zealand Labour Party doing any such thing?

        As for smugness – well, that’s your perception and there’s nothing I can do about your perceptions. As for fantasyland- well, all the above seems pretty hard-headed to me but by all means point out to me what you believe I am fantasising about – if you can pursuade me you would be doing me a favour, and that’s a fact.

        • McFlock 3.1.2.1
          10 August 2012 at 6:39 pm

          If I were in a bar in a corrupt country and someone offered me goods I knew were stolen, I could use your excuses:
             
          If I didn’t buy their goods, they’d still keep thieving, they’d just sell to someone else. Me refusing to buy the stolen items would have no impact on the crime rate whatsoever.I’d make a reasonable amount of money on the deal if I bought them at that price. The cops/militia won’t do anything, even if I complain. If 70% of potential customers refused an called the cops, I’d join in and have an impact, but there isn’t. 
                          
          But the fact is, even if nobody else on the planet cared, I’d still know that I’d bought stolen goods. To me, that’s always been the dividing line between “tory” and “lefty or liberal”. The tory asks “can I get away with it, and if I can what other reason is there for me not to use it to my advantage?” whereas the lefty goes “this is wrong. I will not do it or put up with it”.
               
          I’ve always thought it mildly humourous that many tories who believe in individual responsibility actually look to their community for moral boundaries, and it’s the so-called ‘collectivists’ who draw their moral compass from within (or at the very least an individual connection with a magic book). 

          • Cnut 3.1.2.1.1
            10 August 2012 at 10:23 pm

            Explain to me how buying shares in a state-owned asset equates to buying “stolen goods”?

            The state on behalf of the tax-payer holds assets which (for example) returns a dividend of $10 million a year to the public purse. If the state wanted it could tell the managers of the asset to forget a return and simply provide the good – say electricity – at cost. Or order the managers to show a profit of $20 million a year. All three decisions are political ones.

            An asset with a reliable dividend stream of $10 million a year would have a capital value of, say, $200 million. If the state on behalf of the taxpayer decides to sell it for $200 million and spend it on schools, hospitals, roads, Blackhawk helicopters, conference centres in Twizel or bidding for the 2018 Winter Olympics that, too, is a political decision which our democratic system – love it or hate it – permits and for which the Government is answerable at the ballot box.

            Through the medium of the state I would be buying from the taxpayer of New Zealand a small share in a power company, and paying the taxpayer real money for it. Will I be getting a bargain? Probably, if previous Goverment sales are anything to go by, but is that my fault? Will the Government fritter it away on over-expensive, badly-designed, and pointless pet projects? Probably, if previous Governments gaining windfalls is anything to go by. Is that my fault? I didn’t vote for this Government, after all. Is it my job to save this idiot Government from itself? But would I be buying stolen goods? Not in my book.

            Oh, and FWIW I believe New Zealand’s electricity generation industry should be run on a non-profit basis as a public good.

            • Draco T Bastard 3.1.2.1.1.1
              11 August 2012 at 1:23 am

              Explain to me how buying shares in a state-owned asset equates to buying “stolen goods”?

              They’re being sold against the will of the owners, i.e, stolen.

              • aerobubble …
                11 August 2012 at 10:35 am

                A financial company went belly up. The board decide to sell to another financial company and got
                all those who were owed money to sign up for the deal. Thus the board managed to create consent and so distance themselves from accusations of inappropriate management. This is no different
                from what Key has done, he said he’ll sell them, Labour didn’t sell its wears very well, and so
                Key scrapped into power. Our very democracy is corrupt, the shonkey way governments can
                rush and sell, is mere tip of the per-verbal.

                The global market failure will continue until we redress the ease to which politicians can
                run amok with power. Look at each of the countries under stress, all in EU, US, etc.
                Starting with Iceland where they let a few unaccountable run the banking industry into a joke.
                Or Greece where politicians with no backbone don’t collect the taxes of its people.
                Or Spain, developer madness. Or the UK, ground zero for Thatcher’s revolution. Os
                the US, where printing money is fun, and Congress is full of twits.

                This is one of the generational political population collapses, ridiculed out of office when the
                people get fed up with all the lying, corruption and incompetence.

            • Tracey 3.1.2.1.1.2
              11 August 2012 at 11:18 am

              Being stolen is not the point, the point is being made about ethics. Where people’s ethics sit on any given issue. Mr Key claimed his ethics were high when in opposition, particularly in relation to MP and ministerial standard. They dropped a long long way once that lie was bought by the public. Did he do anything illegal in changing his mind? Nope, no law broken. Doesn’t mean t’s ok?

              The law sets the lowest acceptable stand not the highest as some like to believe.

              In the end cnut I think the point being made is that you say you only vote left wing parties, you say you think the companies should be held for the public good but when it comes down to it you see an opportunity for a windfall for yourself and that trumps your principle. It’s your right to do so but I think some here are just pointing out the anomaly.

              • McFlock …
                11 August 2012 at 4:31 pm

                Nicely put.
                         
                Not sure it computes in someone’s head, though. 
                     
                Participation =  acceptance. Which means that actions speak louder than dull platitudes of what cnut would like to see.

                • Herodotus …
                  11 August 2012 at 5:32 pm

                  So will the be a ground swell of Kiwisaver providers to disclose that they intend/have purchased shares in any of the SOE being sold off ? There is an opportunity for a provider to say that they WILL NOT buy any and be open to those who oppose such sales to switch providers. Then imagine how that would resinate within the industry? Having an “ethical” investor. Something that the Greens IMO could champion. Because in many aspects the Red team = the Blue team

                  • McFlock …
                    11 August 2012 at 5:54 pm

                    I wish. Not hopeful though.
                         
                    Although if the Greens said they’d renationalise at purchase price, I might actually vote for them.  

                    • Colonial Viper …
                      11 August 2012 at 5:59 pm

                      Although if the Greens said they’d renationalise at purchase price less costs incurred by the Government

                      This is a bit better. It would mean that we get the fees from the merchant banks, consultants etc. back.

        • weka 3.1.2.2
          10 August 2012 at 6:44 pm

          I have some money to invest. I’m not sure if that offends you in itself (and I would argue it doesn’t make me a tory whether I want to be one or not) and if it does what you think I should do about it (make sure I spend all my income when it arrives on ‘things’ whether I need them or not, or on booze or on the biggest mortgage I can support or on horses or ladies or whatever so that I’m always broke by next payday?)
           

          You could instead invest the money ethically.

          • Cnut 3.1.2.2.1
            10 August 2012 at 10:47 pm

            “You could instead invest the money ethically.”

            This pre-supposes an objective ‘ethics’ of investment. Personally I hold no shares in any bank or the likes of Goldman Sachs and would never invest in the likes of Monsanto, Lockheed Martin or G4S for example. I don’t hold any tobacco company shares and am undecided about the big pharmaceuticals. On the other hand anyone with a pension fund – including Kiwisaver – is probably invested in companies I would not feel comfortable holding personally.

            I don’t feel that a power generator produces something the world would be better without, nor abuses a monopoly position, but although I don’t agree with the sale of these assets politically and think it’s a mistake for the Government to sell them on sheer economic grounds I don’t feel that imposes an ethical responsibility on me not to buy shares if they are offered any more than I would refuse to drive on a road I consider a waste of public money to have built, not go to a rugby match at a flash, quite unnecessary and over-costly sporting venue imposed on rate-payers by an ‘over-enthusiastic’ local council, nor even attend a conference at a plush centre paid for by slot-machines.

            • Carol 3.1.2.2.1.1
              11 August 2012 at 7:21 am

              Or you could do like some of us, stop trying to get some money from doing nothing but lodging your savings somewhere, and just keep your money in the bank.

              • Colonial Viper …
                11 August 2012 at 6:03 pm

                but lodging your savings somewhere, and just keep your money in the bank.

                Co-operative bank or KiwiBank please.

            • weka 3.1.2.2.1.2
              11 August 2012 at 6:22 pm

              “This pre-supposes an objective ‘ethics’ of investment.”
               
              No it doesn’t. It presupposes that you asked what we thought you could do with the excess money you have.
               
              It seems you have no ethical problem with making a profit from actions that you consider unethical. That’s fine, your own ethics are your own problem. I’m just pointing out you have a choice and could do something for the greater good as well as your own personal good. Talk of objective ethics is just a semantic distraction.

  4. Draco T Bastard 4
    10 August 2012 at 12:59 pm

    The asset sales are not going to create the shareholding society that the Nats sometimes use as an excuse for flogging of our assets.

    But it will create the shareholding society that they actually want. A few people with shares and everyone else living in poverty and dependence as their servants.

  5. Dr Terry 5
    10 August 2012 at 1:14 pm

    Given the amount of support still enjoyed by National, one has to wonder how genuine voters are in their “protest” about asset sales? Clearly, numbers who complain are getting themselves ready to pounce upon them given the chance! As usual with human kind, self-interest comes to the fore.

    I note that Russell Norman is selected here for quotation, as usual it is not Labour! Indeed, the Greens are a viable alternative!!

  6. McFlock 6
    10 August 2012 at 1:30 pm

    giggle. 
       
    If 3news polls mums&dads, does that make it a bi-3news 3-way? Because with the asset sales, 93% of the population are being fucked.
           
     

  7. DropDead 7
    10 August 2012 at 2:04 pm

    Meh. The majority of New Zealanders will likely own shares through Kiwisaver and incidentally the Superfund. Not only that but all New Zealanders will retain majority ownership of the assets. Contrast this with Victoria which privatised power generation in the 1990s or plans underway in NSW where state-owned power generator companies are to be privatised most likely via sales to preferred bidders, some of which will be offshore companies.

    Viva the revolution comrades.

    • bbfloyd 7.1
      10 August 2012 at 2:25 pm

      specious oversimplification is just that…. and adding self serving assumptions to the mix doesn’t make up for that….. it just makes you irrelevant….

      it’s a good day for lampooning tories today…. lots of half wit dogwhistles sounding off….

    • Colonial Viper 7.2
      10 August 2012 at 2:56 pm

      Meh. The majority of New Zealanders will likely own shares through Kiwisaver

      Rubbish. Today, EVERY New Zealander owns the assets EQUALLY.

      Which is what you greedy grasping Tories hate.

    • Ed 7.3
      10 August 2012 at 3:23 pm

      I suspect that since Kiwisaver funds do not qualify for the bonus shares, they may well decide that they are not worth buying at this stage, but may be worth buying once those shares have been issued and a lot of smaller investors seek to sell.

      Kiwisaver funds are of course mainly held as retirement savings by “Mums and Dads” – just those not able to afford to buy directly. That may be the reason they are being discriminated against for the bonus shares.

    • mike e 7.4
      10 August 2012 at 4:38 pm

      Victorian power companies are going bust because they burn coal.Likewise NSW. the majority of Australias power is genrated by coal fired power stations.

    • Fisiani 7.5
      11 August 2012 at 4:31 pm

      Most posters on here will buy shares. Virtually all however will fail to admit doing so.
      Despite being socialists I concede that many are otherwise intelligent. Pity that they will post one thing and then do another.
      I intend to buy shares. So will my Kiwisaver Fund and so will the Superannuation Fund and the ACC.

  8. Linen 8
    10 August 2012 at 2:53 pm

    “57 percent said no, they won’t”

    This might be because:

    1. They can’t afford to, or
    2. They can afford to but believe their money would be better invested elsewhere, or
    3. They can afford to but are so opposed to the philosophy of the sales that they feel being a part of it would be a betrayal of their principles despite the possible financial gains.

    A break-down of that 57% would be interesting but I suspect by far the greatest majority would be in catagory 1, in which case a useful follow-up question would have been; “Would you buy shares if you had the spare cash?”

    • Colonial Viper 8.1
      10 August 2012 at 4:28 pm

      Well its a particularly vacuous and useless follow up question as those NZers already own the assets.

    • mike e 8.2
      10 August 2012 at 4:40 pm

      Dirty Linen good spin maybe we could just ask every body if they think asset sales are a good idea.
      like other poles have which show around 60 tu 70% say NO!

  9. tracey 9
    10 August 2012 at 3:25 pm

    he will say … well we tried but if folks dont want the shares….

  10. Herodotus 10
    10 August 2012 at 6:16 pm

    I hope all those attacking mums and dads buy shares individually will also act by changing their pension provider should their kiwisaver findalso buy power shares .

    • Colonial Viper 10.1
      10 August 2012 at 6:25 pm

      better just to nail this Tory govt to the cross and renationalise

      • Herodotus 10.1.1
        10 August 2012 at 7:15 pm

        Unfortunately there will be 1-2 power generators that will have a more “diverse” ownership.
        I am still taken back as to the main reason to keep these SOE 100% government owned. IMO these companies should be merged into 1, this allowing an integrated power generation policy and that new generation can be managed for the countries best interest. Not what will make the most money or at the lowest cost.
        It should be 1 power coy working for NZ. Not many making the most for their investors.

  11. OneTrack 11
    10 August 2012 at 7:53 pm

    “57 percent said no, they won’t” buy shares. – And they wont accept the 7 billion dollars cash received from the partial asset sales? Oh wait…..

    • Crashcart 11.1
      10 August 2012 at 11:02 pm

      Is that $7billion or $5 billion or $10 billion? Oh wait thats right is a complete guess as to what is going to be made. Also I didn’t realise the government was divying that money up and handing it out. I thought they were just taking and selling the assets off to spend on real important stuff like funtion centres in Chch and refurbishing diplomatic residences. Of course not enough money to increase paid perental leave.

    • Tracey 11.2
      11 August 2012 at 11:23 am

      How will they accept it onetrack? Does it come by mail as a cheque or is it direct creditted to our accounts?

      When the money has gone, and it will be gone quickly, what is the plan B for moving our economy along? We won’t have regular and reliable dividends to bank on…

  12. Tracey 12
    11 August 2012 at 11:24 am

    Notice how quickly the govt backed down on the cut to diplomatic posts, no surprise that there are high level career bureaucrats amongst them and never forget the former MPs… We were told there was too much opposition, not that the idea was wrong… What alot of power those 36 or so diplomats who ran to wellington to protest have…

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    Gaming laptops represent a significant investment for passionate gamers, offering portability and powerful performance for immersive gaming experiences. However, a common concern among potential buyers is their lifespan. Unlike desktop PCs, which allow for easier component upgrades, gaming laptops have inherent limitations due to their compact and integrated design. This ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    16 hours ago

  • Climate Change: Turning the tide
    The annual inventory report of New Zealand's greenhouse gas emissions has been released, showing that gross emissions have dropped for the third year in a row, to 78.4 million tons: All-told gross emissions have decreased by over 6 million tons since the Zero Carbon Act was passed in 2019. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    17 hours ago

  • How to Unlock Your Computer A Comprehensive Guide to Regaining Access
    Experiencing a locked computer can be frustrating, especially when you need access to your files and applications urgently. The methods to unlock your computer will vary depending on the specific situation and the type of lock you encounter. This guide will explore various scenarios and provide step-by-step instructions on how ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    18 hours ago

  • Faxing from Your Computer A Modern Guide to Sending Documents Digitally
    While the world has largely transitioned to digital communication, faxing still holds relevance in certain industries and situations. Fortunately, gone are the days of bulky fax machines and dedicated phone lines. Today, you can easily send and receive faxes directly from your computer, offering a convenient and efficient way to ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    18 hours ago

  • Protecting Your Home Computer A Guide to Cyber Awareness
    In our increasingly digital world, home computers have become essential tools for work, communication, entertainment, and more. However, this increased reliance on technology also exposes us to various cyber threats. Understanding these threats and taking proactive steps to protect your home computer is crucial for safeguarding your personal information, finances, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    18 hours ago

  • Server-Based Computing Powering the Modern Digital Landscape
    In the ever-evolving world of technology, server-based computing has emerged as a cornerstone of modern digital infrastructure. This article delves into the concept of server-based computing, exploring its various forms, benefits, challenges, and its impact on the way we work and interact with technology. Understanding Server-Based Computing: At its core, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    18 hours ago

  • Vroom vroom go the big red trucks
    The absolute brass neck of this guy.We want more medical doctors, not more spin doctors, Luxon was saying a couple of weeks ago, and now we’re told the guy has seven salaried adults on TikTok duty. Sorry, doing social media. The absolute brass neck of it. The irony that the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    18 hours ago

  • Jones finds $410,000 to help the government muscle in on a spat project
    Buzz from the Beehive Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones relishes spatting and eagerly takes issue with environmentalists who criticise his enthusiasm for resource development. He relishes helping the fishing industry too. And so today, while the media are making much of the latest culling in the public service to ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    19 hours ago

  • Again, hate crimes are not necessarily terrorism.
    Having written, taught and worked for the US government on issues involving unconventional warfare and terrorism for 30-odd years, two things irritate me the most when the subject is discussed in public. The first is the Johnny-come-lately academics-turned-media commentators who … Continue reading → ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    22 hours ago

  • Despair – construction consenting edition
    Eric Crampton writes – Kainga Ora is the government’s house building agency. It’s been building a lot of social housing. Kainga Ora has its own (but independent) consenting authority, Consentium. It’s a neat idea. Rather than have to deal with building consents across each different territorial authority, Kainga Ora ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    22 hours ago

  • Coalition promises – will the Govt keep the commitment to keep Kiwis equal before the law?
    Muriel Newman writes – The Coalition Government says it is moving with speed to deliver campaign promises and reverse the damage done by Labour. One of their key commitments is to “defend the principle that New Zealanders are equal before the law.” To achieve this, they have pledged they “will not advance ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    23 hours ago

  • An impermanent public service is a guarantee of very little else but failure
    Chris Trotter writes –  The absence of anything resembling a fightback from the public servants currently losing their jobs is interesting. State-sector workers’ collective fatalism in the face of Coalition cutbacks indicates a surprisingly broad acceptance of impermanence in the workplace. Fifty years ago, lay-offs in the thousands ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    24 hours ago

  • What happens after the war – Mariupol
    Mariupol, on the Azov Sea coast, was one of the first cities to suffer almost complete destruction after the start of the Ukraine War started in late February 2022. We remember the scenes of absolute destruction of the houses and city structures. The deaths of innocent civilians – many of ...
    Open ParachuteBy Ken
    1 day ago

  • Babies and benefits – no good news
    Lindsay Mitchell writes – Ten years ago, I wrote the following in a Listener column: Every year around one in five new-born babies will be reliant on their caregivers benefit by Christmas. This pattern has persisted from at least 1993. For Maori the number jumps to over one in three.  ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • Should the RBNZ be looking through climate inflation?
    Climate change is expected to generate more and more extreme events, delivering a sort of structural shock to inflation that central banks will have to react to as if they were short-term cyclical issues. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāMy pick of the six newsey things to know from Aotearoa’s ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours, as of 9:16 am on Thursday, April 18 are:Housing: Tauranga residents living in boats, vans RNZ Checkpoint Louise TernouthHousing: Waikato councillor says wastewater plant issues could hold up Sleepyhead building a massive company town Waikato Times Stephen ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
    It’s a simple deal. We pay taxes in order to finance the social services we want and need. The carnage now occurring across the public sector though, is breaking that contract. Over 3,000 jobs have been lost so far. Many are in crucial areas like Education where the impact of ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    1 day ago

  • Meeting the Master Baiters
    Hi,A friend had their 40th over the weekend and decided to theme it after Curb Your Enthusiasm fashion icon Susie Greene. Captured in my tiny kitchen before I left the house, I ending up evoking a mix of old lesbian and Hillary Clinton — both unintentional.Me vs Hillary ClintonIf you’re ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    1 day ago

  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
    This is a re-post from Andrew Dessler at the Climate Brink blog In 2023, the Earth reached temperature levels unprecedented in modern times. Given that, it’s reasonable to ask: What’s going on? There’s been lots of discussions by scientists about whether this is just the normal progression of global warming or if something ...
    Skeptical Science
    1 day ago

  • Backbone, revisited
    The schools are on holiday and the sun is shining in the seaside village and all day long I have been seeing bunches of bikes; Mums, Dads, teens and toddlers chattering, laughing, happy, having a bloody great time together. Cheers, AT, for the bits of lane you’ve added lately around the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago

  • Ministers are not above the law
    Today in our National-led authoritarian nightmare: Shane Jones thinks Ministers should be above the law: New Zealand First MP Shane Jones is accusing the Waitangi Tribunal of over-stepping its mandate by subpoenaing a minister for its urgent hearing on the Oranga Tamariki claim. The tribunal is looking into the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago

  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
    Buzz from the Beehive Point  of Order first heard of the Oceans Secretariat in June 2021, when David Parker (remember him?) announced a multi-agency approach to protecting New Zealand’s marine ecosystems and fisheries. Parker (holding the Environment, and Oceans and Fisheries portfolios) broke the news at the annual Forest & ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago

  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Bryce Edwards writes  – Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
    Citizen Science writes –  Last week saw two significant developments in the debate over the treatment of trans-identifying children and young people – the release in Britain of the final report of Dr Hilary Cass’s review into gender healthcare, and here in New Zealand, the news that the ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
    One night while sleeping in my bed I had a beautiful dreamThat all the people of the world got together on the same wavelengthAnd began helping one anotherNow in this dream, universal love was the theme of the dayPeace and understanding and it happened this wayAfter such an eventful day ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago

  • Texas Lessons
    This is a guest post by Oscar Simms who is a housing activist, volunteer for the Coalition for More Homes, and was the Labour Party candidate for Auckland Central at the last election. ...
    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours as of 6:06 am on Wednesday, April 17 are:Must read: Secrecy shrouds which projects might be fast-tracked RNZ Farah HancockScoop: Revealed: Luxon has seven staffers working on social media content - partly paid for by taxpayer Newshub ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
    Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
    On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • Apposite Quotations.
    How Long Is Long Enough? Gaza under Israeli bombardment, July 2014. This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    Bowalley Road
    3 days ago

  • What’s a life worth now?
    You're in the mall when you hear it: some kind of popping sound in the distance, kids with fireworks, maybe. But then a moment of eerie stillness is followed by more of the fireworks sound and there’s also screaming and shrieking and now here come people running for their lives.Does ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. Our political system is suffering from the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago

  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
    David Farrar  writes –  The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
    PRC and its proxies in Solomons have been preparing for these elections for a long time. A lot of money, effort and intelligence have gone into ensuring an outcome that won’t compromise Beijing’s plans. Cleo Paskall writes – On April 17th the Solomon Islands, a country of ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
    We are in the middle of a climate crisis. Last year was (again) the hottest year on record. NOAA has just announced another global coral bleaching event. Floods are threatening UK food security. So naturally, Shane Jones wants to make it easier to mine coal: Resources Minister Shane Jones ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago

  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
    Is speeding up the trip to and from Wellington airport by 12 minutes worth spending up more than $10 billion? Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me in the last day to 8:26 am today are:The Lead: Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
    Yesterday it was revealed that Transport Minister had asked Waka Kotahi to look at the options for a long tunnel through Wellington. State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the ...
    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    3 days ago

  • Smoke And Mirrors.
    You're a fraud, and you know itBut it's too good to throw it all awayAnyone would do the sameYou've got 'em goingAnd you're careful not to show itSometimes you even fool yourself a bitIt's like magicBut it's always been a smoke and mirrors gameAnyone would do the sameForty six billion ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections The June general election in Mexico could mark a turning point in ensuring that the country’s climate policies better reflect the desire of its citizens to address the climate crisis, with both leading presidential candidates expressing support for renewable energy. Mexico is the ...
    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • State of humanity, 2024
    2024, it feels, keeps presenting us with ever more challenges, ever more dismay.Do you give up yet? It seems to ask.No? How about this? Or this?How about this?When I say 2024 I really mean the state of humanity in 2024.Saturday night, we watched Civil War because that is one terrifying cliff we've ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
    Buzz from the Beehive A pet project and governmental tunnel vision jump out from the latest batch of ministerial announcements. The government is keen to assure us of its concern for the wellbeing of our pets. It will be introducing pet bonds in a change to the Residential Tenancies Act ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • The case for cultural connectedness
    A recent report generated from a Growing Up in New Zealand (GUiNZ) survey of 1,224 rangatahi Māori aged 11-12 found: Cultural connectedness was associated with fewer depression symptoms, anxiety symptoms and better quality of life. That sounds cut and dry. But further into the report the following appears: Cultural connectedness is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
    David Farrar writes –    The Herald reports: From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.   While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
    Remember the good old days, back when New Zealand had a PM who could think and speak calmly and intelligently in whole sentences without blustering? Even while Iran’s drones and missiles were still being launched, Helen Clark was live on TVNZ expertly summing up the latest crisis in the Middle ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    4 days ago

  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
    Costello did not pass on analysis of the benefits of the smokefree reforms to Cabinet, emphasising instead the extra tax revenues of repealing them. Photo: Hagen Hopkins, Getty Images TL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me at 7:26 am today are:The Lead: Casey Costello never passed on ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago

  • True Blue.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    4 days ago

  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #15
    A listing of 31 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, April 7, 2024 thru Sat, April 13, 2024. Story of the week Our story of the week is about adults in the room setting terms and conditions of ...
    Skeptical Science
    5 days ago

  • Feline Friends and Fragile Fauna The Complexities of Cats in New Zealand’s Conservation Efforts

    Cats, with their independent spirit and beguiling purrs, have captured the hearts of humans for millennia. In New Zealand, felines are no exception, boasting the highest national cat ownership rate globally [definition cat nz cat foundation]. An estimated 1.134 million pet cats grace Kiwi households, compared to 683,000 dogs ...

    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    5 days ago

  • Or is that just they want us to think?
    Nice guy, that Peter Williams. Amiable, a calm air of no-nonsense capability, a winning smile. Everything you look for in a TV presenter and newsreader.I used to see him sometimes when I went to TVNZ to be a talking head or a panellist and we would yarn. Nice guy, that ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago

  • Fact Brief – Did global warming stop in 1998?
    Skeptical Science is partnering with Gigafact to produce fact briefs — bite-sized fact checks of trending claims. This fact brief was written by Sue Bin Park in collaboration with members from our Skeptical Science team. You can submit claims you think need checking via the tipline. Did global warming stop in ...
    Skeptical Science
    6 days ago

  • Arguing over a moot point.
    I have been following recent debates in the corporate and social media about whether it is a good idea for NZ to join what is known as “AUKUS Pillar Two.” AUKUS is the Australian-UK-US nuclear submarine building agreement in which … Continue reading → ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    6 days ago

  • No Longer Trusted: Ageing Boomers, Laurie & Les, Talk Politics.
    Turning Point: “What has turned me away from the mainstream news media is the very strong message that its been sending out for the last few years.” “And what message might that be?” “That the people who own it, the people who run it, and the people who provide its content, really don’t ...
    Bowalley Road
    6 days ago

  • Mortgage rates at 10% anyone?
    No – nothing about that in PM Luxon’s nine-point plan to improve the lives of New Zealanders. But beyond our shores Jamie Dimon, the long-serving head of global bank J.P. Morgan Chase, reckons that the chances of a goldilocks soft landing for the economy are “a lot lower” than the ...
    Point of OrderBy xtrdnry
    6 days ago

  • Sad tales from the left
    Michael Bassett writes –  Have you noticed the odd way in which the media are handling the government’s crackdown on surplus employees in the Public Service? Very few reporters mention the crazy way in which State Service numbers rocketed ahead by more than 16,000 during Labour’s six years, ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago

  • In Whose Best Interests?
    On The Spot: The question Q+A host, Jack Tame, put to the Workplace & Safety Minister, Act’s Brooke van Velden, was disarmingly simple: “Are income tax cuts right now in the best interests of lowering inflation?”JACK TAME has tested another MP on his Sunday morning current affairs show, Q+A. Minister for Workplace ...
    Bowalley Road
    6 days ago

  • Don’t Question, Don’t Complain.
    It has to start somewhereIt has to start sometimeWhat better place than here?What better time than now?So it turns out that I owe you all an apology.It seems that all of the terrible things this government is doing, impacting the lives of many, aren’t necessarily ‘bad’ per se. Those things ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago

  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 hour ago

  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    12 hours ago

  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago

  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    19 hours ago

  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    21 hours ago

  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago

  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
    Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector.    "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
    The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tape
    Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationship
    Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Prime Minister Luxon acknowledges legacy of Singapore Prime Minister Lee
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.   Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • PMs Luxon and Lee deepen Singapore-NZ ties
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. While in Singapore as part of his visit to South East Asia this week, Prime Minister Luxon also met with Singapore President Tharman Shanmugaratnam and will meet with Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong.  During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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