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$50,000 per Hobbit job

Written By: - Date published: 9:43 am, November 28th, 2012 - 144 comments
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Government has a central role in job creation. Just ask National. They’ll tell you it’s not true, and then proudly proclaim that they got The Hobbit made here (ie. bent to hollow threats from Hollywood), creating 3,000 temporary jobs. According to the New York Times, the total cost of our government’s subsidies for The Hobbit is NZD$150m – $50,000 per short-term job.

Look, I’m sure The Hobbit will bring in a few tourists and I’m all for government support of desirable industries but why don’t manufacturers, who actually produce things of tangible value, get a even a fraction of that support? How many of the 40,000 manufacturing jobs lost under National could have been saved with $50 million?

For example, hundreds of permanent, high wage, high value job at Hillside and supporting companies would have been saved if the Government had been willing to spend a few million to buy Kiwi made rather than go for artificially cheap imports when buying new rolling stock.

If only the Hillside workers were able to invite Key to their Bell-Air mansions to have dinner with movie stars, maybe then the Government would care about them.

Make you submission to the Parliamentary Inquiry into Manufacturing today here.

144 comments on “$50,000 per Hobbit job”

  1. Tom Gould 1

    I’m relaxed about the subsidies and tax breaks to Jackson and Warners. It’s a sound investment. We just need more of it, in other local innovative and creative industries right across the spectrum. I would bet a modest bungalow in Brentwood that we won’t see Trevett writing about Key’s “hypocricy” on this front?

    • tom dick and sally 1.1

      Free trade means nations compete to offer the best deal for profit making to be had by corporations. Whats wrong with that? The best deal for corporations is found in the nation that cuts back on employee compensation the most and gets taxpayers to foot the bill the most. Race to the bottom and JOHN KEY TOOK that to new depths.

    • Fisiani 1.2

      Eddie try actually reading the link. The subsidy you mention is NOT for the Hobbit but for a trilogy called LOTR which finished well before 2008.

      • Tracey 1.2.1

        and is in place for the Hobbit

        • bfloyd 1.2.1.1

          As far as I know, The subsidy was increased slightly for the hobbit( don’t even like writing the word hobbit anymore..this fiasco has spoilt one of my cherished childhood experiences)…

  2. ad 2

    “Tangible value” seems to be the problem of the post here.

    A film is one of the lowest-bulk, highest IP, highest-value products a country can manufacture. Pretty damn tangible wouldn’t you say?

    This government’s decision to subsidise film over (say) heavy industry is quite consistent with the Growth and Innovation Framework from the Helen Clark Government’s first term.

    Definitely points off National for being non-explicit in their policy to do so. And the film industry only took off under a Prime Minister who pushed the arts like crazy. And we can definitely hate Key for lowering labour standards for the film.

    But securing and promoting The Hobbit was the right thing to do and we should be proud of it today. Pay the subsidy, for the right industry.

    • Ant 2.1

      “A film is one of the lowest-bulk, highest IP, highest-value products a country can manufacture. Pretty damn tangible wouldn’t you say?”

      Citation needed

      • ad 2.1.1

        http://www.nzfact.co.nz/press_releases/PwCReport-ECNZ.pdf

        There are bunches of reports like that. Treasury did a couple for GIF way back when as well.

        • bfloyd 2.1.1.1

          Quoting a study undertaken by the film and tellevision lobby is not exactly “proof” young ad man……

          Have you never heard of the term “self serving” before? That “study” looks more like a PR puff piece than any real, independant analysis……

          Where are the other studies you mentioned? or are they all just self funded propaganda?

      • Warren 2.1.2

        But New Zealand isn’t making the film, Warners is. All that lovely profit goes to them not us.

        • Rob 2.1.2.1

          We are not paying for it either Warren. If we want all those lovely profits then we would have had to front with the funds to pay for it.

          • Draco T Bastard 2.1.2.1.1

            But, that’s just it, we are paying for it – quite a lot in fact. And, yes, if the government had just stumped up the cash to make the films in NZ without the multi-nationals having their claws in we’d be much better off as the profit would return to NZ and not the multi-nationals.

            • Rob 2.1.2.1.1.1

              Paid what to who, I understand that we have collected less tax.

              • Draco T Bastard

                Yes, exactly. Payment was made through waving the usual fees.

                • Rob

                  You know , you have a real issue in what payment means. The Govt paid nothing towards this movie, nothing. What it did was collect less tax. The business pays the Govt, the Govt collects.

                  • Colonial Viper

                    The business pays the Govt LESS, the Govt collects LESS.

                    Yes, it’s a subsidy.

                    • KB

                      And if the movies were made elsewhere then the Govt would have collected NOTHING at all.

                    • felix

                      “And if the movies were made elsewhere… “

                      Except that wasn’t going to happen, as we learned when Helen Kelly caught the Earl of Jackson lying about it.

                      Did you miss that whole escapade, sleepy hobbit?

                    • Colonial Viper

                      KB, fuck the threats from the corporates. Any corporate entity which tries to negotiate by holding a gun to NZ gets kicked out as a matter of course.

                      You want to use the intrinsic awesomeness of NZ to make money off that’s fine, but you better treat NZ workers as well as you treat American ones working on the same project.

                      Otherwise, Jackson was welcome to spend 3-5 years living and directing the movie in Eastonia if he wanted to.

                    • felix

                      And more to the point, what CV said.

                  • Draco T Bastard

                    Taxes pay for the infrastructure that is used. One way or another that infrastructure has to be paid for. WBros by paying less tax means that we need to pay more. So, yes, we did pay – it just wasn’t direct.

  3. BM 3

    How much will each Kiwi build job cost the tax payer?

    Also , give it up on knocking the Hobbit, Jesus, no wonder Shearer thinks bloggers are a pack of out of touch wankers.
    If he listened to you guys, the Labour party would be rating in single figures.

    • RedLogix 3.1

      Look, I’m sure The Hobbit will bring in a few tourists and I’m all for government support of desirable industries but why don’t manufacturers, who actually produce things of tangible value, get a even a fraction of that support?

      Eddie isn’t knocking The Hobbit … just the disparate treatment between government support for Hollywood film studios who can throw lavish parties in flash mansions … and ordinary New Zealand workers who can’t.

      • ad 3.1.1

        Put like that, today of all days that sounds like the lead cheerleader for the national hockey team complaining that the All Blacks got more media coverage after winning the Rugby World Cup than they did.

        Eddie is just plain wrong.

        • Colonial Viper 3.1.1.1

          Interesting you bring that up. NZ Rugby also gets massive subsidies from tax payers and rate payers.

          • Richard McGrath 3.1.1.1.1

            I note from the NY Times article that Mallard would have thrown our money at movie moguls just as Key has.

            • McFlock 3.1.1.1.1.1

              I love the way you guys fixate on the government money and ignore the rewriting of employment law to give NZ workers less rights than sweat shop workers.

      • BM 3.1.2

        Why would Key care about going to a party in a flash Mansion, he can stay at home and do that if he wants.

        Here’s a though, maybe Key actually sees value within the NZ film industry and it’s worth giving up a few dollars to help cement the long term viability of film making in NZ.

        AS for Hillside, sorry to say times change, it’s a global economy, countries buy our exports we have to buy theirs, it’s the way it works.
        The only thing that gives our dollar value is our exports, if we’re not willing to reciprocate with our trading partners and buy the stuff they export, then we’re in trouble.

        • Lanthanide 3.1.2.1

          “AS for Hillside, sorry to say times change, it’s a global economy, countries buy our exports we have to buy theirs, it’s the way it works.”

          Really? Please show me the contract where we “have to buy theirs”, thanks.

    • mike e 3.2

      theirs only one sho

    • Depends whether you measure the cost up-front or the cost after the home is sold.

      If it’s the latter, zero, because the program is designed to be self-funding.

  4. kea 4

    Are you guys familiar with the concept of short term gains and long term losses ?

  5. Gosman 5

    I actually disagree with the concept of providing support to particular industries along the lines that the Hobbit received, mainly due to the very reason that people start arguing that if you did it for them why not for others.

    That stated, it is hardly a direct subsidy along the lines people are arguing for other sectors. The majority of the support was in the form of a tax rebate. If the money wasn’t spent in NZ by the Producers of the Hobbit then the Government would not have had the money to rebate.

    You could argue that Governments should offer more in the way of tax incentives for particular sectors, (although I would argue why not lower tax rates for everybody across the board). That is completely different to direct subsidies and/or retrictive trade practices.

    • Wayne 5.1

      Gosman is right here on the issue of the tax rebate, effectively it lowers the corporate tax rate to 15% (as I recall).

      I know that this site keeps referring to Hillside. A subsidy there would have actually been a loss making proposition. Kiwirail would have been paying more to buy wagons (25% or more) than they could otherwise get them from China. The Hillside business itself would still be uncompetitive, with no hope of earning export dollars. It is comparable to assembling cars in NZ, which no one (not even on this site) would now seriously suggest.

      It is also probably a breach of the China FTA, to subsidise a local producer on the direct cost of manufacturing a specific product – different if it is an R&D grant or an export market promotion incentive. But Hillside does not export.

      In contrast global filmaking is a new high value export oriented industry that is profitable. Worth incentivising with a tax break.

      • Gosman 5.1.1

        “It is comparable to assembling cars in NZ, which no one (not even on this site) would now seriously suggest.”

        Sadly you are quite wrong. There are in fact a number of regular posters on this site who do argue this very point. In fact I belive DTB has even suggested we should create our own electronic and software industry so that we will be using NZ made machines utilising NZ made operating systems and applications. Kind of like North Kora but without the fun mass military parades.

        • mike e 5.1.1.1

          or the starving masses

        • Draco T Bastard 5.1.1.2

          In fact I belive DTB has even suggested we should create our own electronic and software industry so that we will be using NZ made machines utilising NZ made operating systems and applications.

          These industries already exist in NZ. My suggestion is that we boost it.

        • Tracey 5.1.1.3

          are electronic and software industries like car assemblies??

      • Karen 5.1.2

        The Hillside workshop would have made better quality wagons. Didn’t the Chinese made ones all have problems and needed to be repaired – cheapest is not always the best option. Plus what about the cost of people in the workshop being unemployed and having to receive benefits. And who’s to say that with a bit of govt support the Hillside workshop couldn’t have built up a niche industry and gained overseas contracts in their own right? Not everyone necessarily wants to buy cheap rubbish from China.

        • Gosman 5.1.2.1

          All valid points. However the senior managers of NZ Rail made their decisions based on their commercial prioritites and decided to opt for Chinese made wagons.

          What you seem to want to do is for Government to direct commercial enterprises to make decisions based on other reasons.

          • Karen 5.1.2.1.1

            It’s my belief that KiwiRail as a taxpayer owned entity should indeed take a big picture view when making commercial decisions i.e. what’s the best long term option for the country as a whole. I’m sure senior managers take their decision making cues from the govt of the day – certainly the short sightedness of not taking up the Hillside workshop contract in favour of a ‘cheaper’ Chinese contract seems to reflect the mindset of this particular govt.

          • Draco T Bastard 5.1.2.1.2

            The problem being that commercial priorities are the wrong priorities to making such decisions on.

          • Descendant Of Smith 5.1.2.1.3

            Nah the decision to go to china was a political one not a commercial one. It doesn’t matter how dressed up as a commercial decision it is portrayed as, the actual decision was political.

          • RedLogix 5.1.2.1.4

            By the time you take account of GST, PAYE and other sundry taxes like Kiwisaver … on the very first pass the total cost to the Government (as owners of Kiwirail) there was remarkably less difference between the cost of building the wagons at Hillside or in China than you might imagine.

            When you then take account of the fact that the money spent in New Zealand would continue to be circulated primarily in the local economy (as distinct from being entirely spent in China) and you then consider the revenue raised by this circulation … it would have actually been far cheaper for the government to build them at Hillside.

            But that was never the point. I’ve been told first hand from two separate Kiwirail engineers, that there was direct Ministerial intervention to ensure Hillside would not and could not win the bidding. (If it’s good enough for media journo’s to quote anonymous sources, then it’s good enough for me.)

            • Gosman 5.1.2.1.4.1

              Hearsay unless you have actual hard evidence. I heard it was the Reptilian overlords myself.

              • RedLogix

                Yes I said it was effectively hearsay, as is much of what is printed in media columns too.

                Nonetheless I’ll be bookmarking that comment gossy. Will come in handy.

                • Descendant Of Smith

                  Clearly politicians interfere in the running of SOE’s. The notion that they do not is risible and the SOE structure and the fake competition structure these less publically accountable organisations have is all political.

                  Remember this

                  “This includes a special dividend from Meridian of $521M, related to
                  the sale of the Tekapo power stations to Genesis.”

                  Spose you think that was a commercial decision as well.

                  And the track record on the Chinese producing good quality trains:

                  http://gordoncampbell.scoop.co.nz/2012/07/20/gordon-campbell-on-kiwirails-outsourcing-bungle-with-the-chinese/

                  basically none.

                  And you think interferences like this are not political:

                  “A brief review of the timetable for the EMU tender is instructive in this respect. Just over a year ago – on 17 July 2010 – Kiwirail announced four companies were on the shortlist for the EMU contract, none of them Chinese. The same month, both Prime Minister John Key and Transport Minister Steven Joyce visited China.

                  On 3rd September Kiwirail re-opened the tendering process, and announced a new shortlist of ten companies, several of which were Chinese. By December 2010, Australia’s Bombardier transportation had withdrawn from the EMU tendering process, with its managing director reportedly saying : “Your decision to extend the shortlist raises questions on the level of confidence that Bombardier can have in the process.”

                  You really, really think SOE’s operate on a hands off commercial basis with no political interference?

                  • RedLogix

                    Thanks DoS. I should have thought to check Gordon Campbell.

                    I have to add (pure hearsay of course) that one of my inside sources can be quoted as saying ” the only upside is that Woburn and TeRapa shops will have plenty of work for years to come keeping these POS’s on the rails”.

          • mike e 5.1.2.1.5

            Gos we have had overseas made rail stock before the English And American rolling stock has been fine lasted 60 years but the cheap knock off’s from east asia have fallen to pieces and have been scrapped!
            While it make sense in the short term its gets you to the next election it cost more in the long run.

          • Tracey 5.1.2.1.6

            Do you know that for a fact? It would be naive (wouldn’t it) to think politics never enters these decision-making processes?

        • BM 5.1.2.2

          China doesn’t just produce cheap rubbish, what it does produce is goods worth the money people are willing to pay for.

          You want to pay a bit more, you’ll get a top quality product, you want to pay bugger all you’ll get a crap product.

          That’s the way it works with China, they just make to what people specify.

          • One Tāne Huna 5.1.2.2.1

            “…they just make to what people specify…”

            Just like Sanlu. No, wait…

          • Draco T Bastard 5.1.2.2.2

            China doesn’t just produce cheap rubbish, what it does produce is goods worth the money people are willing to pay for.

            Nope, what China does is spend a lot of time and effort setting up the industry so that it can produce the product and then sells that product to the rest of the world. Something like what NZ did to get most of our industry going. The rest of the world, bowing down to the Capitalist God, goes woohoo, cheaper stuff, higher profit and buys from China causing massive unemployment and then blames the unemployed.

            The reality though, is that China cannot actually make anything cheaper than anywhere else. Doing so is actually a physical impossibility. But, I hear you say, they’ve got cheaper labour costs and so it’s cheaper. Well, no, the labour costs the same amount because the labour still needs to eat, needs to have somewhere to live and requires medical attention etc etc. As I said, it’s a physical impossibility.

            It’s the difference between the real economy that surrounds us and upon which we depend and the delusional economy taught by the economists.

            • TheContrarian 5.1.2.2.2.1

              Yes but the labourer is paid a pittance so they do have cheaper labour costs

              • Crimson Nile

                Is that really the best role model for New Zealand to follow though? John Key and Bill English might consider low wages and poor living conditions “competitive advantages” but that environment creates huge societal problems.

              • Draco T Bastard

                How much they’re paid is immaterial – they still have the same living costs.

                • “they still have the same living costs.”

                  Well, no they don’t – the have much lower living conditions which is why it is much cheaper. The medical attention is poor, housing is poor and the sustenance level is much lower yet they work longer hours for less with real problems in worker suicide rates because of it.
                  Working someone 14 hours on a production line and paying them a pittance is cheap labour no matter how you cut it.

                  ” How much they’re paid is immaterial”

                  No it isn’t, a worker over there could be paid $1.00 per hour for the same work therefore labour cost is cheaper.

                  • Draco T Bastard

                    No it isn’t, a worker over there could be paid $1.00 per hour for the same work therefore labour cost is cheaper.

                    Only in monetary terms and money is nothing. I real terms, the costs are effectively the same.

                    • In real terms the of cost working someone very long hours for very little pay without redress, representation or having to spend money on proper safety, well-being and mandated holidays is much cheaper.

                      The living costs are not effectively the same. They are vastly different

              • RedLogix

                TC … you miss the fundamental point DtB is making. The real difference between making something in China and something elsewhere in the world is mainly due to the difference in currency values.

                And that difference is an entirely political matter.

                • Really, so working someone on a production line under fear for a pittance without union representation nor having to spend money on worker safety is mainly due to currency values?

                  Fascinating.

              • felix

                Reminds me of the film Shallow Grave where one of the plotters asks another, who has spent some loot on a frivolous and attention-drawing item how much it cost, and on being told how much says “No, that’s what you paid for it. We don’t know how much it cost us yet.”

      • lprent 5.1.3

        …is a new high value export oriented industry that is profitable. Worth incentivising with a tax break.

        Amazing how selective that the Nats are about this kind of thing in where they want to do some “incentivising”.

        http://www.ird.govt.nz/technical-tax/legislation/2008/2008-105/2008-105-repeal-rd-tax-credit/

        The reality is that the movies are very much one off projects and extremely flightly. Ok if you’re thinking as short term as only National Ministers seem to be able to do well (ie the length of time to the next photo-op).

        R&D tax credits tends to build more sustainable export based industries over the long term. Which probably explains why the Nat’s nuked essentially all tax credits and most incentives to do any R&D, and have never replaced them with anything serious.

        http://sciblogs.co.nz/a-measure-of-science/2011/05/24/lifting-new-zealands-productivity-through-rd/

    • Lightly 5.2

      “If the money wasn’t spent in NZ by the Producers of the Hobbit then the Government would not have had the money to rebate. ”

      You can make exactly the same argument for any investment of any money ever. Should all business spending be rebated on the grounds it creates jobs? If so, how are you going to pay for it?

      • Gosman 5.2.1

        You couldn’t make the claim for all businesses. Some make losses no mater what the tax rate that they pay. In that case the only way of keeping them afloat is direct subsidy. Many countries used to do this. Many still do. They usually involve SOE’s although sometimes involve private companies.

        • Draco T Bastard 5.2.1.1

          The reality is that no business can get by without government subsidies. If all businesses made a profit the subsidy would come in the form of a government deficit caused by an ever increasing welfare bill (and the bigger part of that will be the corporate welfare – just as it is today).

          The capitalist system is significantly worse than a perpetual motion machine. The perpetual motion machine supposedly works with no other inputs forever. The capitalist supposedly machine gets bigger by taking stuff (profit) out.

  6. Craig Glen Eden 6

    No ones knocking the film industry but in the case if this film we wont call it the hobbit cos Im not knocking the hobbit, National payed subsidies which it wont do for other industries cos subsidies are bad you understand. The National Government believes in the free market you know!

    So National will invest in a film or bail out South Canterbury Finance but it does not have money for Special needs units or breakfast in schools pro-grammes, no sir. Not enough money to fund Teacher professional development properly no sir cos those teachers they all belong to the UNION, in fact National cant even get the teachers payed correctly…. but Hekias great doing a great job!

  7. Tracey 7

    BM

    I guess you are the only kiwi who hasn’t noticed Key’s tongue hanging on the ground each time he is near

    sportsmen (spesh ABs)
    Royalty
    celebrities

    • One Tāne Huna 7.1

      On the ground? Down the back of the trousers more like.

      • ad 7.1.1

        Come on people all politicians do that. And suction (defined in The Wire 3rd season) is fun! The Labour leadership are there today in glorious unabashed form, bathing in the things they promised Parliament and us would hurt the country. Enjoy!

        • felix 7.1.1.1

          Yes lots of people are foolishly enamored with celebrity, and behave foolishly because of it, but not many take the foolishness as far as to rewrite a country’s labour laws.

        • Tracey 7.1.1.2

          Am trying to recall our former PM quite as fawning as our current one. In fact she wore trousers to meet the queen… Now the current PM probably would wear a skirt if the royal protocol people told him he must.

  8. Rich 8

    They could have just not cut public service jobs, so we could have adequate delivery of services through secure, well thought out systems, instead of a new cock-up every week.

  9. indiana 9

    Well this issue is certainly not a problem for Labour and it’s leadership, as they will be all smiles and hi-fiving the crowd as they walk down the red carpet.

    As Flavour Flav says, No sell-outs here my man!

    • Tracey 9.1

      If you have children did you bring them up with that same underpinning philosophy indiana, that two wrongs make a right even when they outcome from both sucks?

  10. Tracey 10

    Is that per NZer with a job from the Hobbit or per person employed on the hobbit?

    • rosy 10.1

      “Is that per NZer with a job from the Hobbit or per person employed on the hobbit?”
      … And is that calculated on full-time equivalent jobs, or jobs regardless of hours?

  11. Tracey 11

    I have been involved personally and professionally in the leaky home area for over 3 years. I can tell you that I have yet to be involved in a single case where the developing company is still around to take its share of responsibility. 99.9% wound up, changed their name and incorporated a new company and carried on… wound up after taking the profit, incorporated a new one and so on.

    Of ALL the culpable parties this group have got away with murder in this area. Many of the ones I have been involved with a individually very wealthy people and trusted up tot he eyeballs. IF any political party had the will it could stop this behaviour. Neither Labour nor National have the will…

    SO developers made and continue to make millions while ratepayers foot their bills.

    • RedLogix 11.1

      Yet interestingly WINZ seems perfectly able to reach back into trusts as far as they like when it comes to assessing eligibility for rest-home subsidies.

    • Draco T Bastard 11.2

      IF any political party had the will it could stop this behaviour. Neither Labour nor National have the will…

      Capitalism is all about the state writing laws that protect the capitalists and lump the costs on everyone else thus enriching the capitalists. So, no, neither Labour nor National will change those laws to bring these scum to justice.

      • Tracey 11.2.1

        In fact they will open up more land and ease consent restrictions to help them make their next profit (and then liquidate their companies and move tot he next project)

  12. TightyRighty 12

    I thought a plank of Labours election policy was to provide job subsidies? So surely you should support this? Or is it because it’s getting provided outside a union that it makes it hard for you to bear?

  13. The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 13

    $50k for a job is outrageous, yet you are happy to give away $100k for each subsidised house?

    I thought you guys were ridiculous spending with no proven benefit on the basis that at least it’s not doing nothing.

    [lprent: To whom are you speaking? Me? ]

    • Lanthanide 13.1

      As you know, Gormless, the government is not “giv[ing] away $100k” for each house built.

      For that to happen, the raw cost of the house would be, for example, $400k and they would sell it on the market for $300k. In fact, they are projecting that the raw cost would be $300k, and that they would sell it on the market for $300k. Therefore there is no subsidy.

      • McFlock 13.1.1

        Indeed. The objective is break-even for 100,000 homes being built and 2000 people off the dole into in apprenticeships alone.
                   
        Much better than $50k per job “created” (plus the annual leave people would have to use up just to watch the movie). 

        • One Tāne Huna 13.1.1.1

          $50k per job for jobs that were never in doubt.

          • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 13.1.1.1.1

            So this is a “do-nothing” government. Until they do something. Then they are “do the wrong thing” government.

            • Draco T Bastard 13.1.1.1.1.1

              Well, a few of us have been trying to get people to stop using the do nothing meme as this government is actually very busy – wrecking employment laws and handing huge amounts of cash to the rich.

            • felix 13.1.1.1.1.2

              “So this is a “do-nothing” government. Until they do something. Then they are “do the wrong thing” government.”

              That’s a complaint that, while accurate, should really be addressed to the National govt and not to One Tane Huna or any commenter here.

              Most of the folks here would love to see the govt doing something worthwhile. It’s a frequent theme on this site.

    • Te Reo Putake 13.2

      And the houses will last a lot longer than 3 years.

      • lprent 13.2.1

        I think that most are certified for something like 60 years after construction.

        • Tracey 13.2.1.1

          not quite.

          You can recover from any of the people who contributed to building it within ten years of its “built date”, and if anyone is left to sue (companies closed etc).

          Timber is supposed to last a minimum of 70 years, but if it fails in year 11, 25, or 30, you can’t sue because your ten years has passed.

    • mike e 13.3

      Gormless you got the decimal point in the wrong place but its the same size as tight arse almighties!
      it works out at about 10,000 per house!

  14. BM 14

    If you’re looking at the news right now, you’ll no doubt be looking at the Hobbit premier.

    Unless you’re blind you will see the happiness, the sense of pride and the enthusiasm and respect for Peter Jackson.

    What the fuck was Labour thinking opposing this, the lack of political nous just blows me away.

    They deserve to rot in opposition for decades.

    • One Tāne Huna 14.1

      What was it Labour opposed again? Citation needed.

      • BM 14.1.1

        By trying to throw spanners in the works, Labour is seen as being against the Hobbit.
        You may think that’s not the case but it’s the public perception.

        • One Tāne Huna 14.1.1.1

          Yeah right, you speak for “the public” – didn’t we cover this yesterday?

          • BM 14.1.1.1.1

            You’d have to be blind not to see it.

            • One Tāne Huna 14.1.1.1.1.1

              You’d have to be Wormtongue to lend credibility to your delusions.

              • infused

                Keep living in your dream world. Labour got smacked in the house about it again today and Key is rubbing in Labours face right now live.

                • Rob

                  Where is Robyn Malcolm and the union dude from Aus, perfect opportunity to gloat at what a shocking outcome this has all come to……

                  • karol

                    Looks like she’s p**sed off to Aus.

                  • Tracey

                    what spiteful people you are. Of course the film was made, it was subsidised and had labour laws changed for it following a campaign of lies and misinformation involving the director and the Minister. For some reason you are happy about that. Yet you positively frothed at the mouth when a painting was signed and sold for charity. Your leader thought the PM should resign…and promised higher standards.

                • RedLogix

                  Yes … in ancient Rome gladiatorial contests to the death were very popular too.

                  Or more recently I recall Muldoon was once hugely popular too. Nowadays it’s hard to find any bastard who’ll own up to voting for him.

                • One Tāne Huna

                  Confused, you pay attention to anything Key says? My condolences.

        • felix 14.1.1.2

          BM, you said Labour was “opposing this”.

          Now you’ve changed you tune to “Labour is SEEN” to oppose this.

          That’s a good backdown from the first blatant lie, but you still need to show how “Labour is seen as being against the Hobbit”.

          ps it won’t count for much if it’s just the views of Nat MPs.

    • lefty 14.2

      I tried watching the news.

      It is a sad day when we make a hero out of a union buster and turn out in large numbers to celebrate our own loss of sovereignty.

      Just because a lot of people support something doesn’t make it right.

      The left should support what is right – not what is popular.

      If that means being in opposition until people are won over, then that is better than being another stupid government beholden to foreign corporations.

    • OneTrack 14.3

      Hi BM

      Yep,watching it now. Looks fantastic. Wellington should be very proud.

      • Descendant Of Smith 14.3.1

        It’s a blessing the cricket is on and for once recently we’re doing OK.

        Overhyped hobbit vs cricket – it’s a no-brainer.

      • lefty 14.3.2

        Fuck the unions. My involvement with them has always been negative

        Yeah well.

        Certain types of people do get a hard time from unions.

        Maybe you are one of them.

    • Tracey 14.4

      Alot of people smiled during the rugby world cup but the country did not MAKE money from it. Aucklanders underwrote, and are having to foot the bill for the $280m joke that was the Eden Park upgrade.

      Your attitude, and may our children not share it, is that if everyone is happy do what you like with our money.

      Jackson makes films. He has done well at it so far. That we are becoming a nation of celebrity whores, with our PM at the head of the queue is not something I stand up and applaud let alone want to see money diverted from hospital waiting lists and education for. Still, BM are you on Planet Key or just “aspiring to be”… face squeezed through the gates?

      I have no problem with Mr Jackson’s success or his talent. BUT when he got involved in a lie to achieve a better outcome for his overlords, when he became part of changing the labour laws in NZ, he movied from just being a neat guy who makes lovely movies.

      That you seem to conisder some people immune from criticism BM is sad, unless they are receiving a welfare benefit. Other benefits you are happy with.

  15. Blue 15

    “How many of the 40,000 manufacturing jobs lost under National could have been saved with $50 million?”
    @$50,000 p.a. = about 1,000 jobs. All of them just as temporary, if they need a subsidy of that size to survive. Which means its not a oneoff $50,000,000 spend, its an annual one.

    • Descendant Of Smith 15.1

      Bit like working for families then to subsidise employers or Accommodation Supplement to subsidise landlords or employer subsidies that already exist through agencies such as Workbridge or Mainstream or WINZ..

      Also note that unless you’re suggesting that the Hobbit subsidy was a one off and no more films are to be made here (which seems pointless as the bulk of the argument and the legislative change is in theory to have films made here on an ongoing basis) would also mean that the $50 million cost is not a one-off.

      I can’t see why film should get preferential treatment over engineering or manufacturing.

      What we do know is we have an aging population of tradesmen and plenty of young people who want to work in film.

      Methinks we should subsidise tradesman as a priority over film.

    • Colonial Viper 15.2

      @$50,000 p.a. = about 1,000 jobs. All of them just as temporary, if they need a subsidy of that size to survive. Which means its not a oneoff $50,000,000 spend, its an annual one.

      FFS that’s totally the wrong calculation.

      With a $5M-6M “subsidy” 100 Hillside manufacturing jobs could have been saved for the next 3 years, compared to giving the order to China.

  16. Richard Down South 16

    The govt coulda kept funding the rape crisis centres with $50, and have a heap of change left over

  17. AsleepWhileWalking 17

    Just a fraction of that amount would provide adequate funding for sexual abuse care.

  18. outofbed 18

    I was stopped parking outsise a job in Tory St Wellington on tuesday because of the fucking hobbit movie, and therefore could not do a scheduled job (too much equipment to handball any distance) And thefore have completley fucked my job schedules. and cost me dosh which I can ill afford All so that some wanky US firm can make more money. The fuckers

  19. Cant wait for the Hobbit to come out, we can be proud of Peter Jackson, the benefits to this country will be endless, those in film making know he has changed everything.

    Well done to him.

    • Tracey 19.1

      Can you quantify it? Will it be like the Rugby World Cup?

      • Brett Dale 19.1.1

        Tracey:

        It’s nothing like the Rugby World cup, people outside of New Zealand actually care about the Hobbit.

        • Craig Glen Eden 19.1.1.1

          The mob want it so let them have it aye Brett Dale.

          I spoke with a guy who works in the film industry, doing set work mostly from what I understood here in Auckland. I asked him if he was going to work on the Hobbit as he said he was going to work in Wellington for a bit. He responded that he had worked for Jackson once before and would never do it again. He said Jackson paid shit money and was an arse to work for.

          I didnt tell him what I thought of Jackson re the dispute but it did confirm what I thought he would be like.

          • karol 19.1.1.1.1

            There’s a fair bit of local and international films and TV work providing jobs n the industry in Auckland that provides a bit of employment  – doesn’t always get as much fanfare as Jackson’s stuff.  But I think Jackson is a very good self-publicist.  I guess many Aucklanders have alternative employers to compare the Hobbit/LOTR experience with.

          • Brett Dale 19.1.1.1.2

            Craig:

            I also know a guy who was an extra, and he loved his experience on the Hobbit.

            The movie is going to be brilliant, people here are jjust pissed off, because your union
            didnt get their way.

  20. KJT 20

    The subsidy for one job. Boss of ports of Auckland. Cost 34 million plus the 750k he was paid directly.

    Much cheaper to give some R and D and development finance support to our own manufacturers.

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    National’s blatant pork-barrelling ICT announcement today should reinforce a growing sceptical electorate’s view that they are all about the gift wrap and not the present, Labour’s ICT spokesperson Clare Curran says. “Instead of addressing the real issues - the woeful...
    Labour | 04-09
  • More evidence of the need to clean up the system
    The latest release of emails and messages between disgraced Minister Judith Collins and blogger Cameron Slater are more evidence of the urgent need to clean up politics, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. "This new evidence confirms a near constant flow...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Labour commits to stable funding for voluntary sector
    A Labour Government will establish long-term funding and streamline contract accountability for community and voluntary groups, says Labour’s spokesperson for the sector Louisa Wall. Announcing Labour’s policy for the community and voluntary sector, she said this would give much greater...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Better trained and skilled workforce under Labour
    Labour is committed to a skilled workforce that benefits businesses as well as their workers, and will increase workplace training to improve productivity and drive innovation, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes the Government should support New Zealanders into...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will make renting a better option
    Labour will provide greater security of tenure for renters, and build more state and social housing, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour believes every kid deserves a decent start in life. That means a warm, dry and secure home....
    Labour | 03-09
  • At least 15 new taxes under National
    John Key is the last person to talk about creating taxes, presiding over a Government that has imposed at least 15 new taxes, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “John Key tried a novel line in the debate last night claiming...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will strengthen New Zealand’s democracy
    A Labour Government will act quickly to protect and enhance New Zealand’s reputation as one of the most open and least corrupt countries in the world, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The health of any democracy is improved by greater...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement says tax cut on GST must be first priority – Minto
    “If Prime Minister John Key has money available for tax cuts then cutting GST must be the first priority”,  said MANA Movement Economic Justice Spokesperson John Minto. GST is a nasty tax on low-income families”, said Minto. “People in the...
    Mana | 02-09
  • The Maori Party’s Mana-Enhancing Relationship with National – Minto
    “First we had Cameron Slater and David Farrar backing Labour’s Kelvin Davis bid to unseat MANA Movement Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Hone Harawira.  Now we have Slater writing a pro-Te Ururoa Flavell article on his website, Whale...
    Mana | 02-09
  • There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Mana | 02-09
  • Local communities critical to Civil Defence
    Labour will focus on empowering New Zealand communities to be resilient in Civil Defence disasters, says Labour’s Civil Defence spokesperson Clare Curran. Announcing Labour’s Civil Defence policy, she says that Labour will work with schools, voluntary agencies and community groups...
    Labour | 02-09
  • Labour looks to long-life passports, gambling harm review
    A return to 10 year passports and a review of gambling laws are highlights of Labour’s Internal Affairs policy released today. “More than 15,000 New Zealanders signed a petition calling on the Government to revert to the 10 year system...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the vast majority...
    Mana | 01-09
  • Rebuilding the New Zealand Defence Force
    A Labour Government will make it a priority to rebuild the capacity of the Defence Force to carry out the tasks expected of it, says Labour’s Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff. Releasing Labour’s Defence Policy today he said the NZDF has...
    Labour | 01-09
  • The attempt to kill off Internet MANA
    It’s the last day of campaigning today and the long list of those attacking Internet MANA got longer yesterday with Winston Peters backing Labour candidate Kelvin Davis against the MANA Movement’s Hone Harawira. Davis is now supported by Labour, National,...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • A final word on the election – it’s now all up to you
    Brothers & Sisters, the fate of Aotearoa is now all in your hands. We here at the Daily Blog have thrown everything we can at this bloody Government and have spent every waking hour of this campaign trying to highlight...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • I can’t tell what is National Party advert and what is the NZ Herald – ...
    I can’t tell what is National Party advert and what is the NZ Herald – but then again, I never could...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • TVNZ election coverage – white people telling other white people why Nati...
    TVNZ election coverage – white people telling other white people why National Party is great...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • REVIEW: Royals of Kihikihi
    What an absolutely stunning show.  I had to ask twice to check I’d heard right that this is the first staged production for Samuel Christopher, who also played a raw, real, but vulnerable, Wolf Royal, home from London for his...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • 800 Cops to detain 15 ‘terrorists’ – why Australia’s hysterical Isl...
    I’m sorry but I can’t take this current Australian terror threat seriously. 800 cops to detain 15 people and arrest one of them? A week after Abbot decides to send in Australian forces to the cluster fuck of Iraq, suddenly...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Unbelievable corruption inside Government to attack Kim Dotcom
    The corruption inside this Government just more and more filthy – we now have an ex-Customs Lawyer quitting  after being told to bury information that could embarrass the Government, specifically to do with Kim Dotcom… Curtis Gregorash said he was told...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Everyone Loves A Win-Win That Keeps G...
      Permit me to quote some figures at you… -68% of New Zealanders think political news on television focuses too much on politicians’ personalities and not enough on real issues. This is the key result of a recent UMR survey commissioned by...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, another week of ...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, another week of being the most in demand broadcaster in the country...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • EXCLUSIVE: Te Tai Tokerau independent poll (44% Hone-27% Kelvin) vs Maori T...
    The Te Tai Tokerau Maori TV poll on Monday this week painted a bleak picture for Internet MANA supporters, and it’s results have been seized upon by Labour, NZ First and even the Maori Party (who seem set once again...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The time for TPPA weasel words is over
    Almost every day of the election campaign there has been a policy announcement that would potentially run foul of what I understand is currently in the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA):  more constraints on foreign investment or investors … regulation of...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • MELTDOWN – Maori Party turns on their own Te Tai Tokerau candidate – ag...
    The tensions are building in Te Tai Tokerau with the Maori Party on the verge of meltdown. Days out from the election, the Maori Party Executive has tried to heavy their own Te Tai Tokerau Electoral Committee and their own candidate, Te Hira Paenga,...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • We Can Change this Government
    We Can Change this Government – Mike Treen at the First Union stop work election meeting...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Election 2014: For and Against
    With the general election tomorrow, we have had a very noisy campaign but little sign that the electorate wishes for a fundamental change of governmental direction. This reflects in part the fact that the economic cycle is close to its decadal...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Eye To Eye Uploaded: Martyn ‘Bomber’ Bradbury
    This interview was filmed a couple of weeks ago between Willie Jackson and myself, I was a tad off with my prediction of NZ First....
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The Donghua Liu Affair – The Players Revealed
      . . – Special investigation by Frank Macskasy & ‘Hercules‘ Speculation that the Beehive office of Immigration Minister, Michael Woodhouse, was behind the release of a letter linking Labour leader, David Cunliffe, with controversial Chinese businessman, Donghua Liu, is...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold NZ d...
    It should read ‘never stop spying’. As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold us down the river to the US by allowing the Southern Cross cable to be tapped… The ability for US intelligence agencies...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The NZ First-Labour Party attack strategy against Internet MANA better work
    The final days of the campaign are ticking down and Labour and NZ First are manoeuvring to kill off the Internet MANA Party by both backing Kelvin Davis for Te Tai Tokerau. It’s a risky gambit that they better pray to Christ...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Bill English’s latest insult to beneficiaries – apparently they are lik...
    National’s hatred towards the poor continues unabated as National desperately try to throw raw meat to their reactionary voter base in the hope to inspire enough hate and loathing to win back their redneck voters from the Conservative Party and from...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Eminem ain’t happy with John Key
    Eminem ain’t happy with John Key...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Key claims he did not inhale
    Key claims he did not inhale...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Final prediction on election result 2014
    What an election campaign. The character assassination of David Cunliffe kicked things off with the Herald on Sunday falsely claiming $100 00 bottles of wine, $15 000 books and $150 000 in donations  from a donor that turned out to be...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Live blog: Bainamarama takes commanding lead in Fiji elections
      Interview with Repúblika editor Ricardo Morris and Pacific Scoop’s Mads Anneberg. PACIFIC SCOOP TEAM By Ricardo Morris, Mads Anneberg, Alistar Kata and Biutoka Kacimaiwai in Suva WHILE the results are provisional at this stage, it is clear today that...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 5AA Australia: NZ Elections Two Days To Go! + Edward Snowden + Julian Assan...
    Recorded live on 18/09/14 – Captured Live on Ustream at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/multimedia-investments-ltd 5AA Australia’s Peter Godfrey and Selwyn Manning deliver their weekly bulletin: Across The Ditch. This week, they discuss the latest news as New Zealanders go to the polls on...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What has Colin Craig done for his Press Secretary to quit 2 days before ele...
    This is VERY strange.  Colin Craig’s Press Secretary Rachel McGregor, has quit 2 days before the election, allegedly telling ZB that Colin Craig was a “very manipulative man”. I’ve met Rachel many times in the past as Colin’s Press Secretary, she is...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” – A brief w...
    “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” said Key in the final leaders debate. Problem of course is that the 250 000 – 285 000 children living in poverty can not afford steak, milk, butter, eggs...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • National’s final bash of beneficiaries before the election
    On cue, whenever National feel threatened, they roll out a little bennie bash just to keep their redneck voter base happy. Nothing like a bit of raw meat policy to keep National voters focused on the evil threat solo parents...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • With All Of This In Mind, I Vote
    This is my last blog before the election and I really just want to speak from the heart. Right now in this country it seems to me that a lot of people consider the “essentials” in life to be simply...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Left has to vote strategically this election
    The dedication, loyalty, and tribalism of party politics means that sometimes the left lets itself down by not voting strategically. We all want our favoured party to get maximum votes, naturally, but the winner-takes-all approach doesn’t always suit multi-party left...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Dear NZ – as you enter the polling booth, stand up for your rights
    The last days before a NZ general election are a busy time as politicians make their pitch and party activists prepare to get out the vote. It is sort of weird watching from the distance of Europe the strangest election...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What is Waihopai, John, if it isn’t a facility for “mass surveillance...
    John Key assured us on RNZ’s Nine to Noon programme yesterday that “In terms of the Fives Eyes data bases… yes New Zealand will contribute some information but not mass wholesale surveillance.” How does this square with the operation of the...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Mass Surveillance and the Banality of E...
    Renowned journalist and intellectual Hannah Arendt coined the phrase “the banality of evil” to describe the normalisation of genocide in Nazi Germany. I thought of her phrase when I was listening to Glenn Greenwald and other international whistle-blowers talking about...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Election. Down. To. The. Wire
    Funny how last week it was John Key winning by 50%, now it’s neck and neck. I have always believed this election would be down to the wire and it is proving so. The flawed landline opinion polls the mainstream...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 3rd Degree uses Whaleoil for story ideas as if Dirty Politics never happene...
    TV3s 3rd Degrees smear job on Kim Dotcom last night doesn’t bear much repeating. It was pretty pathetic journalism from a team who have brought us some great journalism in the past. It is sad to see 3rd Degree stooping...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Live blog: Bainimarama takes early lead in Fiji’s election
    Pacific Scoop’s Alistar Kata reports from yesterday’s voting. By Alistar Kata of Pacific Scoop in Suva Prime Minister Voreqe Bainimarama took an early lead in provisional results in the Fiji general election last night. With provisional results from 170 out...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Has The NSA Constructed The Perfect PPP?
    Former intelligence analyst and whistleblower, Edward Snowden – speaking live to those gathered at the Auckland Town Hall on Monday September 17, 2014. Investigation by Selwyn Manning. THE PRIME MINISTER JOHN KEY’s admission on Wednesday that whistleblower Edward Snowden “may...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • No way – Key admits Snowden is right
    After claiming there was no middle ground. After claiming there was no mass surveillance. After calling Glenn Greenwald a henchman and a loser. After all the mainstream media pundits screamed at Kim’s decision to take his evidence to Parliamentary Privileges...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Bad luck National
    ...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • The incredible changing John Key story on mass spying – why the Moment of...
    While the mainstream media continue to try and make the Moment of Truth about Kim’s last minute decision to prolong his battle against John Key past the election into the Privileges Committee, the reality is that the Moment of Truth...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Themes of the Campaign
    There’s one area of a political campaign that just about everyone, at some point, falls afoul of. The campaign song. I’m not sure quite why it is, but it seems to be almost impossible for political parties to come up...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG – Denis Tegg – The NSA slides that prove mass surveillance
    The evidence presented by Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden on The Intercept of mass surveillance of New Zealanders by the GCSB is undeniable, and can stand on its own. But when you place this fresh evidence in the context of...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Ukraine, United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland
    The Ukrainian civil war discomforts me. It seems to me the most dangerous political crisis since the Cuban missile crisis of 1962. And it’s because of our unwillingness to examine the issues in a holistic way. We innately prefer to...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • John Key’s love affair with a straw man – the relationship intensifies
    John Key’s love affair with the straw man is now a fully-committed relationship. It’s now the first love of his life. Sorry Bronagh. Yesterday I pointed to Key’s constant assurances that there is no mass surveillance of New Zealanders by...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • A brief word on why Wendyl Nissen is a hero
    Wendyl Nissen is a hero. The sleazy black ops attack on her by Slater and Odgers on behalf of Grocery Council chief executive Katherine Rich is sick. All Nissen is doing in her column is point out the filth and...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • She saw John Key on TV and decided to vote!
    . . NZ, Wellington, 15 September – ‘Tina’* is 50, a close friend,  and one of the “Missing Million” from the last election. In fact, ‘Tina’ has never voted in her life.  Not once. In ‘Tina’s’ own words, politics has...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Eminem sues National Party for unlawful use of ‘Lose yourself’ bhahahah...
    …ahahahahahahahaha. Oh Christ this is hilarious… National Party sued over Eminem copyright infringment US rapper Eminem is suing the National Party for allegedly breaching copyright by using his song Lose Yourself in its campaign advertisements. The Detroit-based publishers of Eminem’s...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Are the Greens about to be snookered by a Labour-NZ First Government?
    I wrote last week that it was smart politics that the Greens pointed out they could work with National, the soft blue vote that’s looking for a home in the wake of Dirty Politics isn’t going to Labour, so the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • BLOGWATCH: Fonterra join 2Degrees and boycott Whaleoil
    In the wake of Dirty Politics, advertisers are pulling their advertising out of Whaleoil. PaknSave, Evo Cycles Pukekohe, Localist, 2 Degrees, Fertility Associates, iSentia, NZ Breast Cancer Foundation, Maori TV, Bookme.co.nz, Dobetter.co.nz and the Sound are now joined by Fonterra...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • PM Key accused of allowing secret ‘spook’ cable sensors to spy on citiz...
    Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald (left) and Kim Dotcom at the “moment of truth” political surveillance meeting in Auckland last night. Image: PMW By ANNA MAJAVU of Pacific Media Watch NEW ZEALAND Prime Minister John Key has been accused of...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Fiji pre-election ‘politics’ blackout stirs media protests, frustration
    BLACKOUT DAY – Monday, day one of the “silence window” in Fiji leading up to the close of polling in the general election at 6pm on Wednesday. And this is under the draconian threat of a $10,000 fine or five...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Daily Election Update #12: NZ First to hold balance of power
    Winston Peters’ NZ First Party will hold the balance of power after tomorrow’s election, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. Mr Peters is then expected to back a National-led...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Election Day is Time to Refocus on Policies
    Over the course of this election campaign there has been a lot of focus on dirty politics and spying, and not a lot on policy. With election day looming, Gareth Morgan is calling for people to refocus on the issues....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • The Kiwi FM Alternative Election Commentary
    Saturday 20 September from 7pm on 102.2 Auckland, 102.1 Wellington, 102.5 Canterbury, or KiwiFM.co.nz...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Beneficiary Bashing unacceptable
    Kay Brereton of the Beneficiary Advocacy Federation of New Zealand says “ the comment made by Bill English yesterday comparing beneficiaries to crack addicts is shocking and incredibly poorly timed.”...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • UN Experience Beneficial
    Acclaim Otago representatives have just completed their participation at the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disability examination of the New Zealand government in Geneva, Switzerland. "It was an interesting two days which we believe has...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Changing face of NZ should be reflected in newsrooms
    With Fairfax Media’s Journalism Intern search closing on Sunday, Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy is urging aspiring journalists from Maori, Pacific and ethnic communities to apply. The deadline was recently extended to 10pm, Sunday...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • SPCA expresses concern over toxin in waterways
    Ric Odom CEO of Royal NZ SPCA has expressed concern over the toxic poison 1080 entering waterways, but DoC, Council’s and Ministry of Health have colluded to make it legal....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • NZ 2014 Election Index – 13-18 September
    Below is iSentia’s final weekly Election Index, covering the period 13-18 September and showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. The methodology used...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Epsom Candidate (Adam Holland) More Liberal Than ACT
    For the past four years I, like 500,000 other New Zealanders, have been illegally smoking cannabis for medicinal purposes and/or even just for the occasional laugh with friends on the weekend. We don't hurt anybody, we don't cause nuisance, we...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Left Coalition Will Save Dolphins
    A left coalition would safeguard both Māui and Hector’s dolphins, as well as revive our inshore ecosystems. Labour, Internet Mana and the Green Party all have strong policies in place for dolphin protection. The Maori Party, and to a certain...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Waihoroi Shortland: Ngāti Hine is not standing alone
    The Chairman of Te Rūnanga a Iwi o Ngāpuhi, Sonny Tau is blowing smoke worthy of a Dotcom rally with claims that Ngati Hine is standing alone in its opposition to Tūhoronuku says the Chairman of Te Rūnanga o Ngati...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Oceania voices on environment loud and strong
    While money and energy continues to be spent on global talks about climate change, Pacific islanders are scrambling to build sea walls out of sticks, stones, shells and coral, to protect their lands and homes from erosion and rising sea...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Prime Time with Sean Plunket – Tonight
    No MPs tonight --- the campaign will be over at 9 30. Instead we will look back --- and possibly forward on what we have learned and what might happen. Listener Political Columnist Jane Clifton Editor in Chief, NZ Herald,...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Election fails to address youth financial wellbeing
    Young people don’t feel included in New Zealand’s financial success and believe inequality is a problem, according to a new survey conducted by Westpac’s Fin-Ed Centre at Massey University....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Winston’s Waffle doesn’t hide the facts
    The Conservative Party is celebrating the ASA's finding announced today that rejected all but one of the complaints raised against its controversial “Conservatives or Peters” pamphlet. “Despite pages of complaints from Peters legal team the only...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • NZ Independent Coalition looking forward to tomorrow
    “Our team is looking forward to tomorrow. It is a real opportunity to reclaim politics for the people,” said NZ Independent Coalition leader Brendan Horan....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Insights Issue 35/2014 – 19 September 2014
    Insights Issue 35/2014 - 19 September 2014 In This Issue • RMA reform the golden unicorn of policy | Jenesa Jeram...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Special voting arrangements made for NIWA crew
    One of the most unusual polling stations for this year’s general election is in the middle of the ocean miles from land. NIWA’s flagship research vessel Tangaroa, has been doubling as a polling booth for crew and scientists at sea....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Tourism operators urged to vote strategically
    Tourism operators should make sure they know their local candidates’ view on tourism and use their vote to support the country’s second largest export industry, says Chris Roberts, Chief Executive, Tourism Industry Association New Zealand (TIA)....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • WGTN: March for free education
    We are students, university staff, and members of the community. Whichever parties form a government after September 20th, we are demanding an end to corporatisation of education....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Evidence of Corruption a National Scandal
    Internet Party leader Laila Harré will take evidence of corruption to international forums if there is not a full Royal Commission to investigate the growing evidence of the systematic use and abuse of democratic institutions and processes for political...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Govt continues to throw money at charter school experiment
    Official documents reveal the three primary sector charter schools approved last week will cost $2 million to set up as well as divert another $1.5 million of potential taxpayer investment from local state schools next year....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • ACT Final Election Rally
    Elections campaigns are an opportunity for political parties to put candidates and policy to enable voters to choose what sort of New Zealand we want. In this campaign there have been three tests by which you can assess the electoral...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Taxpayers on Hook Again for Solid Energy
    Responding to the Fairfax article that taxpayers are extending another $103 million to keep Solid Energy afloat, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Invermay Petition Tops 10,000 Signatures
    People across New Zealand continue to express their disgust at the downgrading of Invermay, says Dunedin North MP David Clark, as the Save Invermay petition he instigated earlier this year topped the 10,000 signature mark just days before the 2014...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • McVicar vows to continue fight for police
    Garth McVicar stated at a public meeting last week that he would fight to retain a 24/7 Police Station in Napier and no reduction in the number of police staff for the Hawkes Bay region, some said he was simply...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Party Vote Our Weapon in Fight Against Government Corruption
    Internet MANA urges New Zealanders to use their party vote to confront corruption in any new government....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Election day is tomorrow – make sure you’re a part of it!
    Tomorrow, Saturday 20 September, is election day, and New Zealanders’ last chance to have a say on who leads the country for the next three years....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Is the Shape of our Government out of the hands of Voters?
    In the last stuff.co.nz / Ipsos Political Poll before Saturdays election, National is down 5.1% to 47.7% and Labour up 3.7% to 26.15%. These results are remarkably similar to the 2011 election where National received 47.3% of the vote and...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Spirit of Suffrage a Call to Action for All Kiwi Women
    Internet MANA is drawing on the courage and integrity of New Zealand women on Suffrage Day – Friday, September, 19 – to encourage them to pay tribute to the spirit of their foremothers who gained women the vote....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Live Election Night Coverage on TV And Online
    Māori Television’s KOWHIRI 2014 – ELECTION SPECIAL kicks off at 7.00pm this Saturday with a five-hour broadcast focusing on the Māori electorates....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Judge’s Decision Disappoints Fish & Game
    Today’s decision to give a Temuka man 100 hours of community service for selling sports fish to the public has disappointed Fish & Game, which believes the sentence handed down was “too lenient and will not go far enough to...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Cutting-Edge Graphics Fire up TV3’s Election Night Coverage
    TV3’s Election Night coverage, hosted by John Campbell, will be enhanced by cutting-edge graphics that will showcase the night’s results....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Govt rushes to open charter schools in New Year
    The government’s decision to approve four new charter schools last week to open in January next year goes against the Minister of Education’s own advice that the schools ought to have at least a year’s preparation time....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • 7 Days And Jono And Ben at Ten Hijack Election Weekend
    The 7 Days and Jono and Ben at Ten (JABAT) comedians are running their own version of election coverage, with a schedule of entertainment and comedy across TV3, Kiwi FM, the web and social media this Friday and Saturday under...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Fewer Prisoners Equals Less Crime
    In its latest blog, ‘Abolishing Parole and other Crazy Stuff’,’ at http://blog.rethinking.org.nz/2014/09/krill-and-womble-independent-policy.html , Rethinking Crime and Punishment urges government to rethink its approach to releasing prisoners. “The public expectation is that the excellent reductions in the crime...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • McVicar slams his political opponents
    I want a safe and prosperous society and that can only be achieved if we have strong and vi-brant families – McVicar...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Falling economic growth – wage rises overdue
    “The lower GDP growth in the three months to June is further evidence that growth has peaked. New Zealand’s economy is on the way down to mediocre growth rates,” says CTU economist Bill Rosenberg. “Yet wage rises are still weak...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Get Out and Vote campaign a success
    Tens of thousands of workers from all around New Zealand have embraced the Get Out and Vote campaign and have created their own personalised voting plan, the CTU said today. “With three days of voting left in the 2014 General...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Animal Research Failing – So Do More Animal Research?
    Victoria University of Wellington is about to host a lecture on why the success rates of pharmaceutical development is so low and what can be done about it. The New Zealand Anti-Vivisection Society (NZAVS) welcomes discussion on this important...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • ALCP welcomes Prime Minister’s cannabis comments
    Mr Abbott's comments came on the same day as New South Wales and Victoria states announced they would be doing clinical trials of cannabis....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Conservative Party Press Secretary Resignation
    The Conservative Party is given to understand that this morning Press Secretary, Miss Rachel Macgregor resigned althought no formal advice of this has yet been received....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • By ACT’s logic, Epsom should vote for Conservative Candidate
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