Weka, CV clearly did not try to play within Labour's rules. He can't point to a single constructive attempt he made to advance any policy change in Labour this year. Not one. And then he complains about the direction. It's utter hypocrisy and lays bare his...
Actually you can rewrite an entire platform amendment at conference. The TPP amendment was added in specifically from a general non-specific remit about trade. You don't even understand the process you deride so heartily and whinge about so publicly. ...
I'm no expert on the policy platform but perhaps you could have a look and see. I imagine these things weren't covered, but they could be if you got engaged with the democratic process. I can tell you that CGT was in the platform, and that the annual ...
I respect what you're saying, but it doesn't apply here. CV has helped organise a small branch in Dunedin that didn't like the local Labour MP and wanted Labour to turn hard left. They didn't manage to roll the MP and they didn't bother to engage with the ...
The policy platform is binding on the caucus and can be amended at conference. There was a platform item on the TPP that got debated and amended in the plenaries. The same session removed CGT and the rise in the retirement age from the platform. If you ...
The caucus is bound by the policy platform. This change was made in 2013 and was covered widely by the media. You do realise that in a democratic party you have a right to put up changes and debate them and if you're successful they become binding policy ...
Yes, branches can send delegates and put up remits. Any member can go to conference. CV and his crew chose not to participate in the party's democratic processes, and instead chose to throw stones. The only misrepresentation is from CV and his mates.
It's a serious question. CV's complaint is that Labour isn't how he'd like it to be. So, what better opportunity than the party's annual conference, where these very issues are debated on the floor and where party members can put up amendments and lobby to...
Oh dear. [deleted]as Jim Anderton. I don't even know where to start. Outing people is a holiday. Good-bye. Sorry for the delayed departure.] - Bill
They won't. As I said in my comment below, this branch was only set up recently, largely for the purpose of rolling Clare Curran. If they'd engaged properly in the party and if they represented anything more than themselves then they'd have been at ...
Good riddance. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. For everyone else's benefit, this is CV's branch, which was set up a couple of years back to roll Clare Curran. Never saw much of them in the wider party, in fact most people wouldn't know they ...
Weka, mate, we're two years out from the election. He's said he's building constructive relationships with the Greens and that he'll signal clearly before the election which parties Labour will go with. I think that's pretty reasonable at this stage of the...
It wasn't just a reasonable look at Labour's history though was it? It was the usual despairing, hysterical gnashing and wailing that you get from the likes of CV. I heard several reports about this on the radio over the last couple of days. The Herald has...
Not asking for martyrdom at all Tracey. I'm asking you to show some vague self-awareness. You claim to be a leftist, but you spend all day attacking the left, and you get it wrong. I'm asking you to check your behaviour against your purported values.
Here's an idea. Don't read the media filter and then complain it's all too hard. Read his actual unmediated words. Here's his conference speech. CTRL-F and type 'TPP': https://medium.com/@nzlabour/andrew-little-s-speech-to-labour-party-conference-...
CV clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. Witness today's episode.
I never said uncritical support. Of course those of us on the left should maintain a position of critical support. But what I see from the likes of you and CV is uncritical opposition to Labour. You attack as a default, you spend your energy attacking ...
He's said clearly what the provisions are - the ban on New Zealand's ability to restrict overseas speculators from buying up our land and housing. If you can find any other provisions that clearly undermine our sovereignty then why don't you let us all ...
Those who doubted should perhaps have waited to see what happened rather than jumping straight into deranged attacks on Labour based on something a guy who was in charge two leaders and three years ago once said. You guys work yourselves up into a state ...
Again, you are still talking about Shearer. He was two leaders ago. He got rolled. Cunliffe lost and got rolled. We have someone new now. You can stop obsessing about three years and two leaders ago and actually work to change things for the better rather ...
Again, you're still talking about Shearer. We're two guys on now. Get out of the past and join the people who are actually trying to make things better. Un-fcking-believable.
You're still talking about Shearer? Jesus H Christ. We've had two leaders since then. Why don't you read Andrew Little instead? He spoke in his conference speech about ensuring we don't leave people out of work on the scrapheap and Labour under him has ...
Tracey, that's the biggest cop-out I've heard in a while. "Sure, I know I was utterly wrong, but it turns out somehow I was right all along." You've spent a day undermining the left and sewing disunity when the left's fire should have been on the ...
So it turns out it wasn't a reasonable point. Labour voted against it, as they always said they were going to if National didn't fix that law. Yet again, CV is smearing shit all over Labour without any basis in fact. Why can't people see this?
Will you apologise now that it's been shown Labour didn't deserve a bash and you were - yet again - attacking Labour unfairly and without basis?
Labour voted against it.
Labour voted against it. They've signalled for some time that they would. Yet again CV attacks Labour without any basis in fact, just to have a crack. You're becoming obvious bro.
I agree Mickey. To be honest I don't know why you guys ever gave CV an author login here. He deliberately cherrypicks the most unreliable and negative polls and uses them to snipe at Labour. We have enough people on the right trying to drag down the left ...
Yet again Colonial Viper does nothing but attack Labour. In this case, he cherrypicks the poll known to swing the most and be the most unreliable (note the frequent ~5% jumps between polls in the Roy Morgan), and then uses it to attack Labour coming out of...
Nothing would ever make you happy mate. If you'd paid attention you'd know Labour has said it's going to tackle high electricity bills and explicitly called out overpaid power company execs. But NZ Power was too complex and bureaucratic, and people didn't ...
Lesson there about not jumping to conclusions I guess.
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