I think Labour need to look a bit deeper. If I saw a strong electorate result in some areas, but a poor party vote I'd perhaps think: - some of our candidates resonate well, and people like them. What do we have to do to have more candidates like that? - ...
"Your contention seemed to be" Is that not a pretty clear indication that I'm not quoting you. That I'm trying to interpret what you're saying. Really, go read it again. It's pretty obvious. You're wilfully misinterpreting what I said, and getting excited ...
Untidy thread, I'll reply here. Show me where I "fucking [said] that [you'd] written something that [you] fucking [didn't]." Seriously, go back and read it. You're getting all bent over something that didn't happen. Except for the one thing that I did, and...
Obviously not, felix. I don't think that's what I've been doing at all, and I wasn't aware that this site required fully cited quotes in the way an academic paper would. I believe that it's been abundantly clear at each step exactly what I'm claiming ...
No, you're picking one line that was pretty clearly not a quote, and getting your panties in a knot over it. I clearly said that I disagreed when you said that DPF had additional identities he posted under. That was clearly something that I claimed you ...
Yes. The same in fact.
OK, try this. "Oh the sock puppetry" Colonial Viper @ 6:16PM "What other diversions do you have to run tonight? Let’s see your little script :D " Colonial Viper @ 5:48PM Notice the quote marks. That would indicate to you that I'm quoting. Both sock puppets...
Guess I can't reply direct to you - not sure why. Try this quote: "Oh and none of the right-wing blog commenters you regularly see around the place are David Farrar or Cameron Slater under other names, OK? None of them." Was that you? Or are you going to ...
Rude, aren't you. Sorry, was quoting Colonial Viper - you lefties all look alike to me :-). He clearly stated sock puppets, and clearly stated scripts. [lprent: Rude? No he wasn't - read the policy you sanctimonious pillock. If you want to attract my ...
Nice manner you have. You're telling me that they're both right wing? I'll believe that. Don't see how that relates to your contention that DPF and Cameron are posting under fake identities. Are you backing away from that now?
No, the one I quoted from your comments. I guess that's like making it up.
I was showing your proposition to be a bit weird by taking it too extremes. Your contention seemed to be that Cameron and DPF needed to have fake identities so as to generate the volume of comments that you see. I have no idea whether you're a retard, ...
The sock puppet conspiracy theory, the theory that there is some script that some VRWC has issued to people to come and mock you with. The bit where a bunch of people think the Mana party are whack jobs is, as you say, pretty obvious, but surely even you ...
Think you have cause and effect wrong here on milk prices. The high international prices have enabled dairy farmers to saddle themselves with huge debts. More to the point, only the marginal dairy farmers (the ones who just completed a recent dairy ...
Really? I'd believe Cameron Slater maybe, but it's a pretty long stretch to say that DPF would be posting under other names. I've never seen any evidence he'd want to do such a thing. Is it your contention that there are only really 2 people who are right ...
Heh. Only 13% of NZers are left wing. Reminds me of some on Kiwiblog who insist that National is a left wing party, and only ACT are right enough to maybe qualify as the centre. I usually choose to define the centre as being the mid-point voter. So by that...
Heh. The conspiracy theories you're coming up with are pretty good. I don't think it qualifies as sock puppetry - at least the way wikipedia defines it, but I realise it makes it easier for you to ignore Daniel if you label it as such. I don't think ...
Colonial - on a thread about Mana? Wouldn't that be well off topic? Are you sure you're not being just a teeny bit precious here? I thought that Daniel's comment was pretty mild, you're definitely coming over as being defensive. All he's really said is ...
Colonial Viper, I'd be fully in favour of a property tax. One of the biggest problems in our current tax system is that we use income as a proxy for wealth. That is to say, the philosophical belief of most that I meet is that "the wealthy should pay a ...
Yeah, a link from a comment in the Kiwiblog thread is how I got here, I'd guess that's how many right wingers turned up. Seriously, surely some of you can see that these policies are a bit nuts? And that this heavy union involvement, with policies that are...
I very much doubt that the AG will find that Bill English did anything wrong. I don't believe that he meets the definition of living primarily in Wellington, nor did he before he changed the trust arrangements. We'll see I guess. The suggestion is that ...
Sorry, Bill English's rent was also below market value. Didn't stop everyone piling on. Bottom line, all sorts of MPs rent property from associated entities - electorate offices, accommodation etc etc. I think Farrar's point is that he didn't think that ...
Why would John Key care if they're real or not? Either way it provided a bunch of amusement at Labour's expense. It was never going to be all that exciting anyway. Next you'll tell me you cared whether the quote from Key about reducing incomes was true - ...
Nice conspiracy theory guys, but I don't buy it. Sure, somebody probably set them up and thought they were funny. Sure, somebody decided to set them up as following some of the various blogs, probably hoping that someone would notice their joke. Disbelieve...
I think it shows how bereft of imagination and intelligence the left is that they assumed that private meant corporate. And that they would be prepared to rule out a deal that was cheaper for the public and better for prisoners purely on the basis of ...
Let me get this straight. We did it before, the results were generally good, but they shouldn't be looked at because it wasn't quite the same thing. Would you at least accept that it wasn't bad? And that it is legitimate to try? What exactly is going to go...
Hans, it would equally be nice if some of our left wing peers were a little more gracious (for example, our conscience above). Helen had a good innings, and three terms is a lot. Four terms was always unlikely. John Key will probably be a very good prime ...
Trying a little too hard here guys? Particularly with that "reverse midas touch" meme. I guess that'll be why Kiwiblog is the number 1 NZ political blog - the reverse midas touch? Sorry, sounds more like envy on your part to me. IrishBill: Who is the ...
Rex, you really need to write a tell all book (and stay in Australia for a while afterwards). It'd be a best seller.
Tim, you're failing to discern between iiq374's business interests, which are probably to make a profit, and his political interests, which occur in his non-working time. He cares politically that we not enact policies that reduce employment - even though ...
Nice trick "alias BB". The lack of a link does give it away though. Should I take to posting pretending to be Tane? "Oh, just meant to confirm while I'm at it, I and all my friends work at the EPMU, and in fact Helen phones in orders every morning for us, ...
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