The similarities between the two cases at the beginning was a common outrage, with little consideration to the possibility of alternative explanations being possible. That is the essence of a moral panic. The issue is that in the investigation stages an ...
ffs Pascals. Its called having a life. I even took the unusual step of explaining why I was not going to comment immediately. It was 11:54pm! But don't let that stop you providing your ...ahh.. "helpful" interpretation. I did not realise there was a huge ...
@ puddleglum (9.2.3) The consistency of your analysis on this post appears to be slipping. Are you saying in the quote above that you know better than numerous legal verdicts in the case of the Christchurch Civic Creche case? Your criticism is valid, ...
@ wekarawshark you obviously have no idea of the true stats around rape, convictions vs acquitals, impacts on victims, mistakes etc. ....This might help, Putting a heading "true stats" does not make anything true. Just as repeating a lie many times does ...
Steffan Browning's support of Homeopathy for Ebola will do an enormous amount of damage to the Greens. Russell Norman, to his credit has gone on to immediate damage control. The Greens have built up an enviable reputation for promoting evidence based ...
Puddleglum..... Have not any time left tonight, even to read your comment in full. Looks like a well thought out comment Will look tomorrow ~ smile~
@wekarawshark Self reflection may lead you to understand the dirty nature of your smears. I've referred to it as a Whaleoil smear, as it has a very similar style. Unsubstantiated allegations. Just as in this post again, with your claims about rape ...
@ wekarawshark No. There’s been plenty of work done on this already in NZ. If you are ignorant of it, go and educate yourself There are hundreds of proposals floating all over the place. I am well acquainted with the good, the bad, and the ugly. ~~~~~~~~~ ...
@ McFlock No I am not assuming that. There will be mistakes of the kind I mentioned regardless of the system used. The number of mistakes are relatively few, but they are catastrophic for the wrongly convicted, and extremely upsetting for the victims of ...
@ wekarawshark (9.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1) bear in mind that we’ve had many discussions on this on ts in the past. Like I said, it’s just tedious seeing the same old rape myths again and again. Why should I have to spend time and energy addressing this? Your ...
@ wekarawshark (9.2.1.1.1.1.1.1) There was nothing there demonstrating what you said.
@ vto (18) Racism, from Start to Finish. Troll
@ wekarawshark (9.2.1.1.1.1) I called you out in your previous post for your Whaleoil type smear. I gave you the opportunity to provide some substance. The best you can do is continue with more smear. I'm not surprised.
@ ankerawshark (9.2.2.1.1) I disagree with your analysis. It's one of several types of justice I referred to that is born from "total belief". No attempt to distract, and is probably one of the more important points I've made in this whole discussion ...
@ ankerawshark (17.3) Correct
@ fisiani (17) It is political, because of the public outrage against crimes of violence (including sexual violence), and a large number of people suggesting improvements could be made by altering laws. These are concerns, I suggest, that cross Party lines...
@ miravox I agree with both you and karol. "Consensual" sex between a 25 year old and a 13 year old is clearly Rape. Aggravated by the extremely young age of the girl (much less than the age of consent), and the very large age difference. I would also ...
@ ankerawshark (2.2.2.2.1) Take that up with Detective Inspector Karyn Malthus, who headed Operation Clover and said there was not enough evidence to prosecute. The other possibility is a private prosecution if you think the police have come to the wrong ...
. @wekarawshark (2.2.1.2.1.2.1) You are being a hypocrite brian. That's a good start.... :) ~~~~~ You want a high degree of integrity in application of the law but are misusing it in this case. The only way that the evidence in this case can be tested is ...
A lot of Whaleoil 101 smears with no evidence weka. Actually Brian is perpetuating some common rape myths eg that false allegations are high. and you start with a..... false allegation....! ~~~~~~~~ He’s also conflating different issues around rape ...
. @ ankerawshark (9.2.2) A number of these girls stated they were raped. Did they all make that up? I do not know. Detective Inspector Karyn Malthus, who headed Operation Clover, said there was not enough evidence to prosecute. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The number of...
. @ greywarshark (2.2.2) If matters do not go to Court but there has been a breach ‘of the peace’ then what can be done about sexual offending? Something ought to happen. If there is a complaint it can’t be left to the police to decide to do nothing It can...
@ wekarawshark (2.2.1.2.1) An accused prior to conviction is innocent. Criminal convictions require a standard of "beyond reasonable doubt" Long may these standards be maintained for determining guilt, and then allocating punishment. Where is the evidence?...
@ Brutus Iscariot (9) As i said originally this whole case has been a case of mass moral hysteria/panic, horror and handwringing over the state and conduct of our youth, and what they get up to in the bedroom. Whatever has happened lies somewhere in the ...
@ mickysavage (9.1.1.1) If the boys and girls were all of a similar age, and either or both under 16, and the sexual encounter is consensual, then the police will almost always not charge anybody. If the age difference becomes significant, then it will be ...
@ phillip ure (1.1.2.1) The research referred to was some blind taste testing with dinner guests, that I carried out . Nothing to do with Mars. I was trying to understand if the queues could really be justified on the basis of taste, and also highlight the...
@ greywarshark The concern of many here is that the attention will be on merely getting a Labour Party in. The leader and the presentation will be concentrated on to the exclusion of everything else. With that I totally agree. It's a pity that the ...
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. What Labour represents or stands for What is your vision for (a) the Labour Party, and (b) A Labour led coalition? What particular policies do you think represent the vision particularly well?
... it fit an argument. Yes, boldsirbrian did become Mr. Botany (B...
The war over the provision of social housing continues throughout New Zealand. Government abdicating responsibility, and Local City and Regional Councils also considering abdicating responsibility. Auckland City does have an appalling record on the ...
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