At least I didn't spend the day backtracking from a ludicrous and sensationalist headline that the situation in Syria is the first war due to climate change. You article was a great example of the point I was making - that those who try to mislead and ...
I think there's different groups being looked at here. One groups is refugees, as per the refugee quotas I listed. In Sweden, a large number of asylum seekers are actually just economic migrants. But as it's so easy to apply for asylum (you don't have to ...
The graph is highly dubious. It's widely reported that Sweden has a quota of accepting 1900 refugees a year for 9.5m people (see links below), compared to 750 refugees a year for 4.5m people in NZ. That's a remarkably similar rate. Yet the graph gives ...
Weka - your name calling is pathethic. You obviously have a pathological need to abuse anyone who doesn't agree with you. And then make up false opinions for them from ten years ago, even though you are totally ignorant what they thought a decade ago. ...
So I'm the "selfish cretinous arsehole" even you are coming from a point of total and complete ignorance on whether or not you put out significantly more emissions than me (which I would bet you do).
You're the one whose desperate to derail the conversation and start name-calling people deniers, even if they're not. As I've said, we could bankrupt ourselves trying to combat climate change - and likely still fail. So I see your "solution" as potentially...
yawn.
And there it is. Your umpteenth post in a row totally devoid of intelligent comment about the subject at hand. As the climate scientists have said, even if we stopped all carbon emmisssions at 10pm tonight, we're still up for 50 years of climate change. So...
Weka - it's laughable that you talk about climate debate - you're not even interested in debate - only people who parrot exactly the same view as you. That's not debate - it's cheerleading. A large part of the world are not interested in climate change. ...
You're the one that made the bizarre comment that even people who agree with climate change are still deniers. Did you really expect to say something so idiotic and not be pulled up on it? And you again your reaction to anyone who doesn't agree with you is...
It's laughable. Weka says that even people who agree that climate change is real, are still deniers. It's a great example of how cult-like some people's thinking has become. It makes the Gloriavale cult look sane by comparison.
God you're stupid weka. Repeatedly I've said climate change is real, and repeatedly you say I'm denying climate change. It's like debating with a an imbecile. [Chill out and lay off with the abuse - MS]
One anonymous bloke says "In fact, “all weather events are affected by climate change because the environment in which they occur is warmer and moister than it used to be.”" So even when it's colder and dryer, it's really warmer and wetter?
Wow. London was polluted. And it cleaned up it's act. Who would have known. And why on earth do you think I would have vetoed their wish to clean up the atmosphere? This is a bizzare group of people. Even when you state clearly that climate change is real,...
As I said previously, there are people who are so "into" climate change, that they take every price of evidence to make it seem as extreme as possible, and ignore everything else. Which is pretty much identical the way deniers come to their opinions at the...
You've just said how ridiculous it is to blame the the collapse of a civilisation just on one thing like drought - then you back-peddal furiously to say that the author above makes a good point.
cognito - that's funny. Someone who has already reached the bottom of the debating barrel - Godwin's Law - is calling others morons.
weka says " If you weren’t a denier you’d have said so." What a stupid thing to say. Everybody who is not a denier, now has to state they're not, otherwise they are. Pathetic. Clearly you got your pigeonholing wrong.
Sorry - you'd better ring up Statistics NZ and tell them they should have wine, fruit, machinery, fish, wool, vegetables, metals and minerals, and services, education etc all listed under "Whole unprocessed logs and meat" I'm glad I know now. Instead of ...
It this the Standard website, or the secret society of conspiracy theorists?
weka - how do you correlate my quote "There’s no doubt humans are having an effect on the climate" with being a climate change denier? Or you just throw labels, however incorrect they are, at people you disagree with.
I think you hit the nail on the head. It's probably what happens when you hide away wasting your life whinging on a computer.
The current point being argued was today someone always blames drought on climate change. You now say the facts prove the opposite. Which is totally idiotic. It just shows you'll make up any ludicrous nonsense, as long as it opposes the people you think ...
maui says "You are being dishonest though, you’ve picked a whole swag of civilisational collpases and blamed them all singly on drought. " You mean like the reason above given for Syria's current situation?
Maui says "we're now having the worst droughts in recorded history..? Really? So the droughts that have killed millions and millions over the the last couple of millennia we're as bad as what we're having now? "Between 108 BC and 1911 AD there were no ...
Wrong - there's been far worse droughts historically. Wrong - it's not hundreds of droughts. China alone has had 2000 major droughts in 2000 years. There's no doubt humans are having an effect on the climate, but today every drought is blamed on climate ...
Your need to constantly abuse tells us a huge amount about what sort of person you are, and shows us you have a lack of confidence to debate intelligently. Even your abuse is repetitive - same sort of labels, every time. I don't see how you haven't bored ...
Every time there is a drought anywhere, it will it now blamed on climate change. I don't THINK people are saying that. They ARE saying it. [Read the articles. This is not a case where there is a drought and man made climate change is being automatically ...
Wow - a cartoon that the flag debate is a distraction. Like that cartoon hasn't been seen every week for the last year. Blatant plagiarism.
So Syria had a war caused by many problems, just one of which might have been a drought a few years before the war, which may or may not have been partly caused by climate change. yeah - that's a really strong case. Still odd that for thousands of years ...
For thousands of years we've had thousands of droughts that weren't caused by man made climate change. Are we to believe they have suddenly all stopped?
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