Comments on: A real economic plan

By: The Standard Week: 10-17 October at The Standard 2.02

The Standard Week: 10-17 October at The Standard 2.02 — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:20:32 +0000

[...] A real economic plan I don’t give Labour praise lightly but I think today Clark showed that they have the best answer for the hard times to come. National has only the failed policies of the past….[more] [...]

By: Working our way forward at The Standard 2.02

Working our way forward at The Standard 2.02 — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:50:38 +0000

[...] deposit insurance, it’s a good self-centred middle-class story. But the important stuff, as Irish pointed out last night, is the re-training money, the speed-up of infrastructure construction, the money for [...]

By: bill brown

bill brown — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:16:39 +0000

T-rex,

Sorry mate, I sucked up all those cheap shares months ago.

By: T-rex

T-rex — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:38:13 +0000

Yeah… the only time I really considered it was back in late June. I mean people selling at 30% were just dumb, I think there may have been some confusion over the difference between “likely share of the vote” and “likelyhood of forming the government”. Couldn’t be bothered getting involved for the sums in play (especially since I’ve got much better things to do with my time than get involved in zero-sum games, especially fantasy ones where the liquidity added serves no useful purpose), but still interesting to look at.

I just went to look at kiwiblog to see if there was anything on the rightydoompolls, couldn’t see anything. Stunner. Has anyone told Farrar that his logo looks almost EXACTLY like a steaming pile of sh*t when it’s shrunk to taskbar size? I mean he MUST know, right? It’s not like the resemblance is subtle. I, of course, think it’s highly appropriate, but… weird.

By: lprent

lprent — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:27:02 +0000

too late

By: T-rex

T-rex — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:00:45 +0000

http://www.politicalstockmarket.co.nz/

Well well mothaf*ckin well.

By: T-rex

T-rex — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:57:27 +0000

“the choice is now clear.”

As opposed to yesterday, when…

It reminds me of this cartoon: Overcompensating

which I may have already linked to on account of it being awesome.

I think what you point out above rOb highlights what has been said from the start, which is that National (particularly Key) were NEVER going to be any damn good at governing because they don’t actually have any vision, values, or plan of their own – they were just giving people what focus groups told them they wanted (and ignoring the cost).

Did you see McCain the other night? “I know how to fix the economy. I know how. I do. And I’ll do it. And Osama Bin Laden? I know how to catch him too. I’ll get it done”. Then Bush comes on to reassure all by “Vowing” to stabilise the economy. As you’ll recall from previous exploits, George Bushes vows are money in the bank.

A turn of phrase that, curiously, is actually accurate in the present financial market

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I’m going to go and buy some shares on Clark as PM.

By: r0b

r0b — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:40:17 +0000

For those Gnats who have been claiming that “Labour has no policy”, welcome back to the real world. For those who are looking for leadership in these difficult times, the choice is now clear.

John Armstrong gets it (excerpts):

If actions speak louder than words, Labour was the winner on Day One of the official election campaign – game, set and match.

Key’s earlier speech at National’s campaign opening in Auckland’s SkyCity Convention Centre said nothing new on economic policy. In fact, it said nothing new about anything.

If that was not bad enough, Labour was getting ready to lay out something really meaty just a few blocks away in the Auckland Town Hall.

There, Helen Clark trumped Key by delivering the recovery package he had been demanding, including contingency plans to save jobs and the promise of a mini-budget in December.

The upshot was that Labour looked like it was governing; National looked complacent and flat-footed.

By: T-rex

T-rex — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:25:54 +0000

“Let it rest, labours time is over, the country are sick of their lies.”

Actually max, it appears to be Nationals lies that the country is sick of… which makes sense, given that they tell vastly more of them. But don’t let me stop you playing that tiny violin.

By: maxq

maxq — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:39:34 +0000

Yawn – you still havent explained what you consider Keynesian economic policy to be irishbill but no matter, helen has made a non comment about worker training schemes.

It worked well at the Wananga in Hamilton eh!

Let it rest, labours time is over, the country are sick of their lies.

By: lprent

lprent — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:31:44 +0000

Ah DSC – that psuedonym is a cutting it a bit close to being an election advertisement. Which I don’t care about too much as this is a blog. However I tend to get a bit unhappy about commentators advertising here – it tends to escalate. You notice that this site doesn’t have any adverts.. However you didn’t give a web address and the party is a bit obscure these days so I’m not going to jump up and down as hard as I do when there is clear link-whoring.

I’d prefer it if you picked another psuedonym though. Let your thoughts do the advertising.

By: DSC 08

DSC 08 — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:48:35 +0000

Won’t work.
Top down Keynesian job creation at this point will not get past the wealth consolidation that has built up in New Zealand society not eventaking into account the futileness of trying shape an economy with free-trade deals to China and America just landed.
Even the benefit of being in a favoured position of a major war outcome wouldn’t give much buffer this time before the inevitable inflating your way out of debt and sell-off of New Zealand’s remaining assets with the resulting privitisation by large global/faceless corporations occurs.

The only solution out of the current predicament is the Social Credit dividend based economy directly to all citizens. It is the only way to stop inflation while enabling us to utilise and reclaim New Zealand resources.

Labour has destroyed New Zealand society, just a tad slower than National would prefer.

By: randal

randal — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:33:04 +0000

milo, the most obvious thing about tory trolls is their unswerving ability to put words into other peoples mouths without ever saying anything themselves. do you have self adjusting tight underpants milo. have you told the beetroots?

By: Steve Pierson

Steve Pierson — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:15:30 +0000

my understanding is its mostly rail infrastructure, public transport, not just more roads – but they will also be speeding up existing road projects – transmission gully, the western ring route. Oh, they say they will speed up sewerage work, school building, announce some housing initiatives and give more to tackling erosion.

By: milo

milo — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:42:36 +0000

So you’re saying that Labour wants to build more roads than National does?

Have you told the Watermelons?