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A week of polls

Written By: - Date published: 8:25 am, October 3rd, 2011 - 69 comments
Categories: election 2011, john key, polls - Tags: ,

What a bizarre week of polls. The Fairfax poll and the Roy Morgan polls both showed swings from National to Labour. The TVNZ poll and the TV3 poll did not.  Make of that what you will (but keep in mind Bomber’s critique of the TVNZ polling record).  The TVNZ piece states that Key has “never been so popular” (on 59% as preferred PM), so congratulations to him, he has equalled Helen Clark’s peak rating at last.  Now if only he was half as competent.

Just in passing, someone at TV3 really needs a bit of a smacking over their sloppy writing.  The TV3 poll linked above is titled Latest 3 News poll shows Nat’s support doubled, which it certainly does not (it shows it has double Labour’s support, which is bad enough!).  It states that “The poll differs greatly to one released by TVNZ’s Marae Investigates earlier today”, and links to this second piece:

Labour most popular party in new poll

Labour leader Phil Goff will be clinging to the unexpected results of a new poll in which his party has picked up twice as much support as National.

But he is well behind John Key in the preferred prime minister stakes, according to the TVNZ Marae Investigates Digipoll, released today.

Labour’s on 38.4 percent support in the poll, followed by the Maori Party on 22.2 percent, while National’s on just 16.4 percent.

That is in stark contrast to other media polls, which put National above 50 percent support, with Labour rating at 30 percent or less, and the Maori Party on around one percent support.

I wonder if they should have mentioned that the Marae Digipoll polls Maori voters (on the general and Maori rolls) only?  Sheesh.  A good analysis of this poll can be found on Stuff.  Interesting to see that Mana is on 8.5%, mostly at the expense of the Maori Party.

69 comments on “A week of polls”

  1. duncan garner 1

    Anthony,

    I have passed on your concerns over that headline to our guys who run our 3news.co.nz website -they will sort it.

    Cheers
    Duncan

    • r0b 1.1

      Cheers Duncan – thanks for stopping by…

      Anthony 

    • Kevin Welsh 1.2

      Any more little gems like that waiting in the wings Duncan?

      For $40-odd million, I would be expecting a lot more than that…

      • Scotty 1.2.1

        But wait theres more,for just $40mil you can have the
        Radio Live news editor choose to ignore the the fact that National only received 16% support in the Digipoll but repeat hourly the fact that Phil Goffs’ support as Labour leader in the same poll is less than 50%.

    • Deadly_NZ 1.3

      After watching months and months of you kissing John Key’s arse do you really expect me to believe you have changed, you and your mate plonker are a pair of NACT trolls. And a leopard NEVER changes it’s spots!!!!! I watch the news on 3 and shake my head in disbelief . And the 40 million bucks of TAX Payers cash lets me call you out as a bullshit artist of the first water. And don’t get me started on the one sided political sycophancy that comes out of TV3, You are obviously Not a journalist as A journalist has to be IMPARTIAL. A word you obviously have no idea what it means.

  2. Joe Bloggs 2

    Seriously r0b, this is not gooking positive for the minor parties. If the TVNZ and TV3 trend is confirmed in November then the future is looking particularly gloomy for Labour.

    Are voters reacting to continuing leadership woes at Labour? Is it the lack of sound policy on the economy? Brown’s botched RWC opening? The bizarre attack on Bryce Edwards? Your guess is as good as mine.

    But factor in some extra abuse of the Butch, more head-in-the-sand behaviour from Goff and a thoughless outburst or two from Trevor Mallard, and who knows what next month’s polls will be showing.

    There’s only one poll that really counts though and that poll is not for another seven weeks. My money, in the absence of credible opposition, is on National being able to govern alone.

    • Zaphod Beeblebrox 2.1

      Nothing has changed for 2 1/2 years in these numbers- don’t you think you are being a little over-analytical here?

      In short people have a fixed view of the parties or leaders. Labour is pro-government, National is for less government (ironically the reality is completely different from the perception BTW). At the moment people don’t trust government.

      At some stage each party’s image will reach a tipping point- who knows when that be.

    • The 2002 effect will kick in after the world cup.  Voters will see that National has too much power and share the power around.  I expect the third parties to pick up although Act and the Coiffured one are toast.
       
      Also this campaign presents the perfect opportunity for Key to blow it.  He will be on level pegging with Goff in terms of debates and exposure and as long as the MSM does its job there will be a chance.
       
      Campaigns are funny things.  My impression is that turnout is going to be very important for Labour and National is one slip up away from a close campaign.

      • wobble 2.2.1

        The 2002 effect would be rather dire for Labour. But yes, you’re probably right.

        • mickysavage 2.2.1.1

          Spoken like someone with no understanding of the parties. 
           
          In 2002 National was comatose.  They had as their campaign manage Michelle Boag.  They had no money and were hopelessly split down the middle.
           
          Labour is not in that sort of shape at all.  Money, like always, is not the best but activist determination is high and there is this realisation that the Government support may be wide but it is very shallow.
           
          It aint over yet.  Kiwis do have a democratic say in their future.
           

          • The Baron 2.2.1.1.1

            Greg,
            I think he understands plenty. Your often confuse your blind loyalties with insights – but the parallels couldn’t be clearer:
            - Mallard is 2011′s Boag – running a frankly bizarre strategy that is not gaining traction.
            - National is about a billion fuck ups away from losing – just as Labour was in 2002. Why? It’s really super simple – the vast majority of NZ voters prefer Govt’s to give Govt’s more than one term. Labour lost the last election in no small part because the public was sick of them – again, just like the Nats in 1999. It’s almost as inevitable as the tides.
            - And finally, Labour has done absolutely nothing to win the election – or at least nothing that has registered. meanwhile, the Greens and other minor parties have. Probably a factor of the “anyone but Labour” I mention above; and/or the hapless campaign that Mallard is running.
            Greg, your analysis not only lacks an understanding of the parties; it lacks simple logic. I know where it comes from due to your excessive level of affiliation. But I do wish you wouldn’t put yourself forward as such a savant on these issues when all you spout is this loyalist dribble.

          • mik e 2.2.1.1.2

            Boag mucked up big time by not emphasizing party vote. Claimed on Moras show today she wasn’t doing anything back then Edwards dig surely not Boags reply running my little company.

      • Zaphod Beeblebrox 2.2.2

        Remember with such low numbers, the margin for error for those minor party figures are huge. So how do you know ACT or MP is losing support? How could you know?

        Compared with the US and Australia, the methodology and analysis of some of these polls is dubious. In the US they talk about registered and likely voters. How for instance can a pollster know if someone they talk to is even going to be bothered turning up to vote? How could you measure someones enthusiasm to vote? You’d think for a party like Labour this would be the critical factor

  3. This has now been corrected. Apologies for the confusion.

    James Murray – chief editor 3news.co.nz

    • r0b 3.1

      Thanks James.  Hey next time could you arrange it for Labour and Nats poll ratings to be reversed? That would be grand!

      Cheers
      Anthony 

    • Kevin Welsh 3.2

      More importantly James. How does a fuck-up like that happen? It seems editorial oversight and proof reading have gone the way of fact-based reporting and dinosaurs.

      Bomber summed it up perfectly and I hope he does not mind me quoting him here:
      “The mainstream media are so biased towards the National Party that John Key could punch a puppy in the face live on Close Up, and the Herald editorial the next day would criticize the puppy for flinching.”

    • Akldnut 3.3

      James how about putting out a retraction and apology for misleading information – every radio news update I’ve listened to this morning was running with it.

      Even with your correcting the above and a retraction this is a good case of media subconsious manipulation.

  4. ak 4

    Sloppy from TVNZ too. Preference is not remotely the same as “popularity”. For example, I prefer reading Joe Bloggs’ comments to eating dog crap. But only just. And I certainly wouldn’t vote for him.

    The oldie tories I talk to regularly are regularly somewhat embarrassed by the Mincer’s latest antics and lack of gravitas, but if pressed will come back with “yes he acts the goat but he’s smarter than he looks. He knows money, and that’s what we need right now.”

    We’ll see, but methinks the Double Downgrade might go harder to the groin of that “popularity” than first thought. Our economic emperor’s pants are around his ankles. Rip into it boots n all, Labour.

  5. There’s an interesting discussion of the Marae Digipoll here

  6. duncan garner 6

    Note to Kevin Welsh,

    For a start Kevin it wasn’t my mistake, it was made by someone on our website, but it has been fixed. James did it straight away after it was bought to his attention.

    What else do you want? Off with someone’s head? Linked to $40 odd million? Get real Kevin.

    And if you want to go quoting “Bomber” – you may want to see what he said about The Nation this past weekend? Or does not fit your narrative? I bet it doesn’t. Paint the whole picture Kevin.

    Duncan

    • Lanthanide 6.1

      For anyone curious, here’s the link: http://tumeke.blogspot.com/2011/10/nation-and-qa-review.html

      The Nation
      OH. MY. GOD! The Nation is amazing this week! It must be the fact that John Key has refused to appear on The Nation for the rest of the year that The Nation team have decided they have nothing to lose and are asking the bloody hard questions, and sweet Jesus Duncan is a wonder to behold.

      • Deadly_NZ 6.1.1

        But thats just typical of Garner the last time he did an interview with Jokeyhen I thought Garner was going to bow down to him, he was so subservant.

    • Kevin Welsh 6.2

      Duncan, I just look forward to the day YOU paint the whole picture and give us the facts instead of your opinion.

    • thejackal 6.3

      Duncan Garner

      For a start Kevin it wasn’t my mistake, it was made by someone on our website, but it has been fixed.

      It may not have been your mistake Duncan, but it was yet another factually incorrect statement that gave people the wrong idea. It should be a prerequisite for a reporter to be able to do basic math for starters:

      Back at the end of May, Duncan presented (10:20 into this report) a Reid Research poll showing 46% of New Zealander’s supporting cut’s to the Kiwisaver scheme, with exactly the same percentage supposedly being against the cuts. 7% did not know. Leaving 1% unaccounted for. A TV3 article then contradicted those figures reporting “Of the 1000 voters in the poll, 43% agreed with the cuts, while an equal number disagreed”. I haven’t heard any explanation about that contradiction?

      And if you want to go quoting “Bomber” – you may want to see what he said about The Nation this past weekend? Or does not fit your narrative?

      I don’t think you get off being inaccurate on numerous occasions just because Bomber praises you for a single instance of credible interviewing. Is that what you actually think Duncan, that you are absolved from numerous incorrect and unbalanced reports because occasionally you do your job properly?

      There’s no doubt in my mind that you’re a biased reporter Duncan.

      • The Baron 6.3.1

        … And by biased you mean not constantly attacking the Nats on every issue the opposition raises?
        I’m curious, given that there appear to be so many media experts on here – can any of you give me a good definition of what non- biased reporting is? What’s the yardstick that you’re all using to declare all of these journalists such tory suck ups? Bcause it seems to me that a) none of you really understand what a media is meant to do; and/or b) don’t really know what the word bias means.
        Happy to be corrected, once you all tell us this magical yardstick is that you’re applying.

        • mickysavage 6.3.1.1

          Ooh ooh I can’t provide an example of non biased reporting but I can provide a classic example of biased reporting:
           
          Latest 3 News poll shows Nat’s support doubled


          Clearly not true but adds to the perception that National is on a roll.

           
           

          • The Baron 6.3.1.1.1

            Jesus Greg – you got any others than the one that was apologised for and immediately corrected once noted? Its called a fuck up – not a conspiracy.
            Does any media outlet meet this insanely high bar that you demand from them?

            • The Voice of Reason 6.3.1.1.1.1

              Accuracy is not an “insanely high bar”, Baron, it’s journalism 101. The media have a duty to be fair and accurate and to present alternatives, where they exist.

        • thejackal 6.3.1.2

          The Baron

          a) none of you really understand what a media is meant to do.

          The media is meant to report the facts and not be slanted or biased in favour of one political party. They should not omit to report on relevant stories. The article in question contravenes fairness and accuracy.

          b) don’t really know what the word bias means.

          Bias is an inclination to present or hold a partial perspective at the expense of (possibly equally valid) alternatives. The term “media bias” implies a pervasive or widespread bias contravening the standards of journalism.

          Happy now dick?

        • XSD 6.3.1.3

          Generally speaking it would be for whoever the “media” was, to pick up on contradictions of information. The above examples give figures that don’t match – why? And if they know the why, inform the viewer/listener instead of leaving a big gap. If they don’t know why, ask the source of the info, or in other cases, the person directly responsible/Minister/interviewee. It’s so simple, there must be a good reason why it doesn’t happen often. One borderline urban myth is that some politicans shut out reporters who ask hard questions or don’t let them control the way the information is presented. Then you have a reporter with nothing to report. Should a journalist have to put his career on the line every time he asks a question?

          The perception of bias happens when these apparent gaps of information happen more often to one side of an argument and are passed over on the other as if they don’t matter. This could be coincidence, but as time goes by it becomes difficult to believe. I’d like to believe that journalists know it when it when happens and they know what is opinon and what isn’t, but I have no definate evidence. My impression is that even if the mix of aware to not aware was 50/50, there would be less “bias” in reporting. Unfortuanatly, the reasons for these incidences could be any range of behind- the-scenes restrictions of time, personnel and politics and the only way to adjust the perception the public have of journalists would come at the cost of exposing the internal silliness most professions contain – and that it isn’t going to happen, live to air.

          Being aware of how personal beliefs colour any interpretation or recollection (or report) is an advanced level of communication and once you get there, the speed at which you can report – with relative certainty – is greatly reduced. You couldn’t, for example, turn out a Close Up or Campbell Live everynight. You might not even get to print a daily newspaper; instead opting for a bi-weekly or monthly magazine. We’ve all read reports, months in the making, that cause a stir for a long time after they’re written. Is that what people want every single night at 6:30pm? As a profitable alternative, you’d have to cross the line into tabloid journalism, collecting emotional responses to an event, or arranging steroeptypes, and just hope that some element of truth happened to intrude by chance.

          Blatant mis-information (lies) is not a good thing for journalism in theory, but is also almost impossible to prove. The Media (whoever that is) could do a better job at removing the apparent bias in their reporting, but the public have to understand some of the practicalities of what they ask. They may find they feel more secure with bias, lies and mis-information than the truth of uncertainty.

      • felix 6.3.2

        I don’t think it’s fair to call Duncan “a biased reporter”. If anything he’s a sensationalist reporter. He goes where the blood is.

        There are 99 other criticisms I can think of, but a bias ain’t one.

  7. Rose 7

    The media goes nuts with the same stories every time one of their dross polls is released, Labour Slumps, National Unbeatable etc etc, and yet when it comes down to it any movement within their polls is within the margin of error. It’s such bollocks!

  8. The Voice of Reason 8

    Anybody want to take a guess who is making the following analysis of the weekend’s poll results?
     
    “That gap is almost certainly going to close,”
    “People haven’t been focused on politics recently.”
    “In the last month before the election there’s going to be an intense campaign, and when New Zealanders focus on it they always pull a government back a bit.”
     
    Is a) me, b) some other random lefty or c) Bill English?
     
    Answers on the back of a postcard to this address.

    • Tiger Mountain 8.1

      A most reasonable comment Voice.

      Hollowest of men Hooten was a bit fizzy on Nat Rad today, something had rattled him. Was it the lugubrious Mike Williams, (who made some good points when able to speak), or a credit downgrade perhaps?

      The polls are eye candy for the uninformed voter, but surely the Nats know that MMP makes a direct translation of them to a real world election result highly unlikely. The ShonKey Double Dipton schism continues, maybe they need to herb up like brother Don.

      What does worry me is not the polls so much, rather the unenrolled under 30s.

      • The Voice of Reason 8.1.1

        The unenrolled and the enrolled non voter have to be the left’s target over the next few weeks, TM. It’s such a simple process to get on the roll, but the right and their media glove puppets are seeding the meme that it’s not worth bothering. A low turnout will see the Nats back, but a biggish turnout opens up the door for a left coalition.
        And further confirmation that Labour are in with a shot with the Tory’s favourite ‘left’ commentator and Mystic Meg soundalike Chris Trotter saying Labour can’t possibly win. If Chris says it can’t happen, I’d say it’s a sure bet that it can.

      • Carol 8.1.2

        It seemed to me that Hooten got a little rattled & “fizzy” because Ryan called him on some of his spin and tried to get him to focus on the crucial issues and credible arguments. He increasingly tried to talk over her and continue with his spin lines.

        • Tiger Mountain 8.1.2.1

          You are probably right Carol, the script must not be deviated from. Genuine open debate-avoid-avoid. Do not engage. As the strategic absence of relevant ministers and the PM on various TV and Radio New Zealand programmes demonstrates.

  9. TightyRighty 9

    I liked the poll that showed the public service is performing a better job despite state sector job cuts and the subsequent doom and gloom predicted by labour, this site and the PSA.

    • Zaphod Beeblebrox 9.1

      You know they haven’t cut anything yet. How do you think Bill is going to appease S & P when he is running a $18B annual deficit?

      • TightyRighty 9.1.1

        just taxes for the productive and entrepreneurial and state service numbers. My two favorite cuts

    • Draco T Bastard 9.2

      Yes, well, you would as you’ve proven time and again that you prefer fantasy to reality.

      • TightyRighty 9.2.1

        What was that Draco? sorry, i can’t hear as you are so far removed from the reality that you are coming across very faintly.

    • lprent 9.3

      A subtle (but important) reinterpretation that makes your comment spin into bullshit (as it usually does). That actual poll was about peoples perceptions – not the actual level of service.

      It has nothing to do with any actual performance differences. Most people actually don’t have that much direct interaction with state services, and many of those who do are only likely to do so a few times over the last few years. So a sample of a thousand random people is pretty much going to measure how people perceive the effects rather than what the actual effects are. In effect, they are likely to reflect the spin that they have heard rather than anything tangible.

      I realize that it is the sincere belief of National flatulences like yourself that spin is everything. However I’d say that asking a thousand people who deal with the state services every month would be a better sample. However I’m sure you won’t like those results.

      • TightyRighty 9.3.1

        Really? what about the surgery figures? Crime? resource consents at ECan?

        perceptions, facts, all the same this time

        • McFlock 9.3.1.1

          So you’re giving the government credit for the Canterbury earthquake cutting Canterbury region theft by 20%? There are a variety of factors that affect crime stats beyond the government, and that’s before one starts factoring in that crime stats are notoriously (excuse the pun) vulnerable to “massaging”.

          As for the other two, got a link for the surgery stats? Because a rubber stamp in an environmental watchdog is not something to boast about.

        • mik e 9.3.1.2

          Resource consents have only speed up because their are so few,because of lack of growth especially in the building industry when CHCH needs them their won’t be enough people employed to keep that speed up as is already happening.

    • mik e 9.4

      We already work the longest hours in the world.Once these cuts really bight and the private sector consultants start getting payed 3x the wage the productivity will wear off soon as the better and brighter head for Australia where they work less hours for more money their will be a shortfall like in the nineties when these policies were last wheeled out.Just look at blingishes pathetic lack of growth except in debt.

  10. duncan garner 10

    Anthony,

    Given some of the crap that comes through here, I’m not sure it’s worth engaging or immediately correcting and apologising for a mistake on our website.
    I might stick to my original policy – which I broke – and stay away from the blogs. I’m sure there will be some interest in our “other” poll questions out tonight and tomorrow.

    Cheers
    Duncan

    [Will reply in a new comment below - Anthony / r0b]

    • Kevin Welsh 10.1

      Not exactly the first time you have broken your ‘original policy’ Duncan.

      • McFlock 10.1.1

        To be fair, Kevin, at least he and Jeremy fronted up and corrected the error.
         
        Yes, there are issues around the way headlines don’t always match the articles which don’t always match the source data which might or might not match reality (polls in particular), but generally I think the main issue is one that hits all news organisations – not enough proofreading and too much random editing without fully grasping the context. Stuff is abysmal at it. 
         
        They saw the issue was raised and resolved it – there is the question as to whether a single poll result that hits a psychological threshhold (nats “double” labs), and that is a wider commentary about our current blipvert media culture. I don’t think personalising the debate in that context is very productive. Don’t get me wrong, I love swearing at tory swine (it’s even better in person), but the dude is at least trying to engage and do his job – which is more than Key has ever done.

        • Kevin Welsh 10.1.1.1

          Yes McF, he did front and that is appreciated. What sticks in my craw is that time-and-again the media in New Zealand is found wanting on the facts and when on the rare occasion that they do front up, as Duncan did, they try to justify their shit standards, with comments like:

          ‘What else do you want? Off with someone’s head? Linked to $40 odd million? Get real Kevin.’

          Im glad that the $40 mill bailout of MediaWorks has had no bearing on their political coverage, as I look forward to the leaders of the opposition parties getting there arvo spots on RadioLive.

          • McFlock 10.1.1.1.1

            I’m pissed about it too, but it’s not like it was in a brown paper bag addressed to “DG@3news”.  Bringing it up just ashe fronts up for a particularly bad clanger on the website was a bit of a disconnect.
              
            My philosophy on the MSM is that they also want to follow the money, which does limit their bias (conscious or subconscious or merely apparent)in most cases. That’s why I get intrigued when a number of interviewers and news editors start being a bit askance about smile&wave – it generally means that reality is beginning to pop the bubble political junkies live in. 

          • vto 10.1.1.1.2

            RadioLive, ha ha…

            Governmennt by talkback radio has finally arrived. How depressing. I’m going fushing again …

    • lprent 10.2

      …immediately correcting and apologising for a mistake on our website

      That would be my pick. I noticed it this morning when I was lounging around reading the morning news on the pad. It was a rather glaring mistake. I’d have written about it somewhat more sarcastically than r0b (he is a *lot* nicer than I am – and we won’t even mention what Irish would have written :twisted: ). But I wound up with more important things to do*

      BTW: When are the TV stations going to start putting the actual poll data up so we can read it without the ‘interpretation’? There is usually so much spin on the numbers that it is hardly worth watching or reading the polls that you and TVNZ put out.

      * There was the wafting smell of a dead power supply from a windows server when I went downstairs.

    • thejackal 10.3

      Duncan Garner

      Given some of the crap that comes through here, I’m not sure it’s worth engaging or immediately correcting and apologising for a mistake on our website.

      I think most people here appreciate you taking the time to let the editor at 3news.co.nz know about the error… However your further comments are not appreciated.

      Particularly the arrogance whereby you say you might not even bother to correct a known mistake in the future. Just in case you weren’t aware, the Press Council requires factual reporting and correct headlines. Try to save the people who believe in factual reporting some time by ensuring mistakes are corrected… or better yet being honest in your reporting in the first place.

      I would be far more interested in your polls if they were accompanied with all the relevant data, and presented in an unbiased manner.

    • Anne 10.4

      Hang on duncan:

      Yes, I thought some of the criticism – especially after you and your chief editor had apologised – was a bit over the top.

      There’s a lot of very good stuff that comes through on this site. Well worth a read.

  11. r0b 11

    Duncan wrote: Given some of the crap that comes through here, I’m not sure it’s worth engaging or immediately correcting and apologising for a mistake on our website. 

    There’s a lot of emotional stuff written on lots of web sites, including the comments sections of 3News.  I don’t agree with everything that gets written here, but I do understand where it’s coming from, as I’m sure you do too.

    I might stick to my original policy – which I broke – and stay away from the blogs.

    I hope you won’t (and I’m pretty sure you’re not really that thin skinned). I think it is useful for public figures to engage via “new” media, e.g. Labour politicians on Red Alert, and media figures with their own blogs and engaging on others.  Like it or not the “MSM” and “new media” are merging to the extent that they’re already just points on an increasingly blurred continuum.  Can’t turn back the tide…

    I’m sure there will be some interest in our “other” poll questions out tonight and tomorrow. 

    There was last time, as I recall!

    Cheers
    Anthony / r0b 

    • J Mex 11.1

      While we’ve got a whole bunch of commenters asking for corrections and retractions, how about Bill fixing his post here…

      http://thestandard.org.nz/a-smidgen-of-truth-escapes-the-msm

      in lieu of this…

      ttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/8792829/BBC-financial-expert-Alessio-Rastani-Im-an-attention-seeker-not-a-trader.html

      • McFlock 11.1.1

        Lol – an owner of an in-debt company who lives in a home that’s in the name of a close family member/spouse and who trades as a “hobby”.
         
        Sounds like a perfect representative of the financial sector, to me.
         
        I also note that the actual quote in the article differs from the quote in the headline to make it look like he’s not actually a trader. Not biased, no…

        • J Mex 11.1.1.1

          “They approached me,” he told The Telegraph. “I’m an attention seeker. That is the main reason I speak. That is the reason I agreed to go on the BBC. Trading is a like a hobby. It is not a business. I am a talker. I talk a lot. I love the whole idea of public speaking.”

          The guy has never worked as a trader. His view on Goldman Sachs and the future of the stock markets is worth about as much as your opinion. Nothing.

          • McFlock 11.1.1.1.1

            He does, however, trade – even if as a hobby. And he seems to have the personal finance structures of some notable finance company CEOs who have been in the news in the past couple of years. And his opinion was more accurate than the speculators who got hit by a popping bubble.
             

            • joe90 11.1.1.1.1.1

              His web page, about page and Why I pray for another recession.

              • J Mex

                “And his opinion was more accurate than the speculators who got hit by a popping bubble”

                How is his opinion more accurate? Surely you mean, you agree more with his opinion.

                He has exhibited absolutely no ability to make correct predictions, let alone profit from them.

                • McFlock

                  In that his opinion aligns with real-world data. I know this is a concept you might have difficulty with.

                  Are you then denying that a few people have made huge amounts of money shortselling stock off the back of the Global Financial Cluster Fuck? 
                    
                  Or that the largest investment firms essentially dictate economic policy (like bailouts) to some of the most powerful governments on the planet?
                    
                  The guy was a hell of a lot more accurate than the guys who thought “property prices will keep going up 2007-9″.

  12. J Mex 12

    Humor me and tell me where his “opinion aligns with real-world data” ???

    Are you then denying that a few people have made huge amounts of money shortselling stock off the back of the Global Financial Cluster Fuck?

    No. I would have to be an idiot – because most TRADING (especially currency and derivatives trading) is zero sum gain. That means that for every trade where someone make $100k off a trade, some other guy, or institution, lost $100k. Derivatives are folk betting against each other. I’m not being rude, but I can tell that you haven’t got the faintest idea about trading.

    It is a ridiculous question for a second reason. Some traders and institutions made money off the GFC, some lost a huge deal. Entire trading entities were wiped out. If you want to run a line that traders loved the GFC, you are creating a fantasyland completely disconnected from reality. Hugely powerful trading organisations were wiped out because they overextended and bet wrong.

    Your hobby trader would also have more credibility if he made ANY predictions historically that turned out to be true. If you want to watch a guy making accurate predictions in the face of scorn, check out this guy…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw

    • McFlock 12.1

      Actually there were a number of points to his little piece. Basically he suggested that those who profited from the GFCF were in a position to structure the entire system to the point that they profited at the expense of others (both in the market and from govt bailouts). He argued the supremacy of corporations over civil government.
       
      It might be a “zero-sum game” to you, but in case you hadn’t noticed there was a massive transfer of wealth from the poor to the already rich. Overall it might be “zero sum”, but that’s just the tyranny of averages.
       
      As you point out, some speculators were right, others were wrong. The concept of a reliably accurate market prediction (as opposed to the description we saw) is a fantasy. The market is a gamble, with the illusion of rationality overlaid. The problem is when the corporations become too massive, devouring each other (e.g. Goldman Sacks acquisitions), they become the “house” and the house sets up the casino so it always wins.
       

  13. J Mex 13

    He said a lot of things. But none of them were of ANY importance. They were opinions, which you agree with. You call that “opinions aligning with real world data”. I call that “A guy, talking rubbish”

    Basically he suggested that those who profited from the GFCF were in a position to structure the entire system to the point that they profited at the expense of others (both in the market and from govt bailouts). He argued the supremacy of corporations over civil government.

    He didn’t say anything of the sort. That is you hearing what you want to hear. He said that the large hedge funds and corporations “didn’t care about the rescue package”. You hear “they are structuring the entire system to profit”. He also said “Governments don’t rule the world, Goldman Sachs rules the world”. This is “opinion that aligns with real world evidence”? One guy, no successful trading experience, whose job is speaking to groups of 50-100 people on how to learn to trade on the futures market?

    You have a view, fine. It is that large corporations are evil etc. Traders control the world etc etc. Fine. But don’t hold up some goober on t.v as your evidence of these things. The ONLY qualification he has to talk about these things, is that he got on TV to talk about these things, and said some things you agree with. You do yourself, and your argument a massive disservice by doing this. Don’t you see that?

    • McFlock 13.1

      Actually if you flip the first and second “he said/you hear” items, it’s a bit more sensible:
      He said that the large hedge funds and corporations “didn’t care about the rescue package”. This is “opinion that aligns with real world evidence”

       He also said “Governments don’t rule the world, Goldman Sachs rules the world”. You hear “they are structuring the entire system to profit” (particularly if you recall that major trading houses were apparently selling debt packages as equivalent ackages, but in fact they were stacking the more profitable mortgages into packages for preferred investors, that GS has extensive connections into the US and European governments and reserve banks, and so on).  
       
      I’m not actually holding him up as “evidence” – all I’m saying is that his comments were a hell of a lot more accurate than the day to day financial advice being peddled around the planet.

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    John Key has lost his moral compass over Judith Collins’ involvement with Cameron Slater and lost touch with New Zealanders’ sense of right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Whoever is Prime Minister there are expectations they will not...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Mana Movement General Election 2014 List confirmed
    The MANA List is now confirmed with all the candidates as below (the numbers are the respective Internet MANA rankings). Candidate, Electorate, Internet MANA List Position Hone Harawira, Te Tai Tokerau (1) Annette Sykes, Waiariki (3) John Minto, Mt Roskill (4) Te Hamua Nikora, Ikaroa-Rawhiti...
    Mana | 18-08
  • PREFU likely to confirm dropping exports
    National’s economic management will be put under the spotlight in tomorrow’s PREFU given clear signs the so-called rock star economy has fallen off the stage, with plummeting prices for raw commodity exports, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Under National,...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Record profits while Kiwis face a cold winter
    The record profits by two of New Zealand’s largest electricity companies will be a bitter pill for New Zealand households who are paying record amounts for their power, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “No doubt the Key government will...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time for John Key to answer yes or no questions
    John Key’s train-wreck interview on Morning Report shows he is no longer capable of a simple yes or no answer and has lost touch with what’s right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key has become so media...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Key must clarify who signed out SIS OIA
    Yet again John Key is proving incapable of answering a simple question on an extremely important issue – this time who signed off Cameron Slater’s fast-tracked SIS OIA request on Phil Goff, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “John Key’s claim...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time to invest in our tertiary education system
    A Labour Government will fully review the student support system – including allowances, loans, accommodation support and scholarships – with a view to increasing access and making the system fair, transparent and sustainable, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says....
    Labour | 17-08
  • Labour will facilitate regional Māori economic development agencies
    The next Labour Government will facilitate the creation of regional Māori economic development groups lead by iwi and hapū to work in partnership with business and public agencies as part of its Māori Development policy. “Labour is committed to working towards...
    Labour | 16-08
  • PRIME MINISTER’S DENIAL AT ODDS WITH NATIONAL PARTY STATEMENT
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has today released an email from the General Manager of the National Party that directly contradicts recent statements from the Prime Minister in relation to the 2011 breaches of Labour Party website databases. In his stand-up...
    Labour | 16-08
  • Cunliffe beats Key in First Leaders debate
    I watched the First Leaders debate at the Green Party #GreenRoomNZ, they were very kind to include me and the atmosphere was great. The debate was a resounding victory to Cunliffe. He won Round 1, Round 2, Round 3 and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • LIVE STREAM: The Green Room Leader’s Debate from 6:30pm
    The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding to the debate live, along with comment from thought leaders and commentators. ‘The Green Room’ 6pm – 8.30pm...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • How many taxpayer funded staff does John Key need to prepare for a Leaders ...
    John Key is currently at the Auckland Stamford Plaza with 40 staff, 4 undercover police cars and an entire floor booked out in preparation for tonights Leader’s debate. Isn’t 40 staff including coms, flown up to Auckland for a debate...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • A brief word on National Party Rodney MP, Mark Mitchell
    MP considers legal action against Nicky HagerThe National MP says he is considering taking a defamation case after the September 20 election.“Someone needs to be held accountable,” he said. Oh really champ? Brothers and sisters, there is a long way...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Greens advertise on Whaleoil – but not on The Daily Blog?
    PaknSave have shown ethical compass and blocked adverts on Whaleoil, yet the Greens are advertising on Whaleoil, and not The Daily Blog? I would imagine there are far more potential Green voters on The Daily Blog then ever are on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • It’s about the stupid economy stupid
    In focus group meetings, the sleepy hobbits of NZ by a staggering amount all believe that National are better economic stewards of the country than Labour, that’s why, instead of answering questions about blackmailing MPs, trawling brothels for dirt on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour Policy vs National Policy
    John Key’s favourite defence spin at the moment is people want to talk about policy and not hear answers on the ethics of trawling brothels, why Slater was given SIS information, blackmailing MPs into standing down, rigging candidate elections and hacking...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • The Green Room live streamed on TDB 6.30pm tonight for First Leaders debate
    The ‘Green Room’ will stream 6.pm tonight on The Daily Blog during the TV One leaders’ debate.Use #GreenRoomNZ to join in. The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Manukau East – the next Coalition in action
    A couple of weeks ago I had the pleasure of opening Voice Up – a youth forum run by young people in Otara. I had been asked as Chair of the Local Board to set the scene, encouraging young people...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – The Big Bang Theory
    It’s a shame that it took a brain injury for me to start seeing things with such startling clarity. The realisation that lawyering, fishing, parenting, selling cars and racing yachts had common themes was stunning. Not perhaps as stunning as...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, how much Key aro...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls
    MIL OSI – Source: Selwyn Manning – Analysis Headline: 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls 5AA Australia: On this week’s Across the Ditch bulletin on 5AA Australia, host Peter Godfery and Selwyn Manning discuss the aftermath...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • La’o Hamutuk calls for inquiry into Timor GAP ‘mismanagement’ of oil ...
    The Suai project on the South Coast … “liberated” land but confused communities.Photo: La’o Hamutuk David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. AN INDEPENDENT Timor-Leste development and social justice agency has called for an inquiry into the Timor GAP corporation...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • What Is Nicky Hager?
    WHAT WILL HISTORY MAKE of Nicky Hager? That slight, perpetually boyish, journalist who descends periodically, like the admonishing angel in a medieval mystery play, to trouble our consciences and wreak merry havoc with the orderly conduct of our political affairs....
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Can anyone in msm explain how after Dirty Politics that they all got played...
    Would you not think, that after reading Dirty Politics, that our mainstream media wouldn’t allow themselves to get tricked and played again by the VERY SAME discredited pundits? The best new feature on Radio NZ is their ‘Blog Watch’ and their...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Crusher Collins caught out lying about Privacy Commissioner – is this her...
    Crusher angry. Crusher smash own career. Crusher more angry. You would think that after getting outed as such a nasty, vicious piece of work in Dirty Politics, that Crusher would be scrambling to dial back the lies and manipulations. Apparently...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Cunliffe vs Key – first leaders debate
    This is your election ‘moderator’ – just one more reason an incoming Government need to sack everyone at TVNZ and reform it into an actual public broadcaster. The first leaders debate happens this Thursday, 7pm on TV One. I have...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – An Old and Honourable Profession
      When Dirty Politics started to reference an ex-prostitute I began to get antsy. My first response was “come on Nicky, we decriminalised in 2003. Its sex worker.” My second response was “Ah oh. Who was it and did they...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Bought and paid for: the dirty politics of climate denial
    Has climate denial in New Zealand been bought and paid for by corporate interests? We already know that the ACT Party’s routine denial is closely linked to the financial support the party receives from wealthy free market fundamentalist Alan Gibbs,...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • If the msm read The Daily Blog, THIS wouldn’t be a surprise – explainin...
    Yawn. How embarrassing for Hamish Rutherford and Andrea Vance, their breathless article today suggests that the idea of Labour and NZ First cutting a  deal over the buy back of assets  is some how new news. Silly mainstream media  journalists. If...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker??
    Yesterday I did some calculations to find out what tax John Key pays compared to a worker on the minimum wage. And I put out this media release for the Mana Movement: MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Hip hop death threats – the selective outrage of our media
    PM death threat in hip hop songAn Auckland hip-hop crew slammed for releasing a song with lyrics that apparently include a threat to kill Prime Minister John Key are urging young people to enrol to vote. Kill The PM, by...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes
    Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this!
    I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this weird spear tackle from behind by his own company. I was listening to this interview at the time, and the awkwardness of it must be the worst...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Is it weird Radio NZ ban me yet still have….
    Is it weird Radio NZ ban me for life because I criticised the Prime Minister yet still have Matthew Hooton, David Farrar and Jordan Williams, 3 of the main protagonists revealed in Dirty Politics as part of their ongoing political...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Christchurch GCSB meeting – why mass surveillance matters in 2014
    This is the video for last weeks GCSB meeting in Christchurch. Don’t forget Nicky Hager’s public meeting Wednesday night in Auckland, TDB will live stream the event in the interests of our democracy. Broadcast starts 7.30pm here on TDB....
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Assange, Greenwald to appear at Town Hall meeting? + KDC is not the hacker ...
    Wikileaks founder and the engineer of revealing some of the largest abuses of power in the modern era, Julian Assange, is rumoured to be appearing at the September 15th Town Hall meeting. Assange would join award winning investigative journalist Glen...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Why Paula Bennett will be the next leader and Hooton throws the Prime Minis...
    I don’t think the public have any idea of the behind the scenes meltdown now occurring within National. There are plenty of decent right wingers who all have ethical standards who have looked at what their leaders have been doing and...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – That Awkward Feeling When Your Campaign Goe...
    Urgh. It’s a thankless and nearly impossible task politically firefighting some days. Somebody (who isn’t you, but who’s in your care, or whom you’ve got a close professional relationship with) does or says something stupid; somebody from the Media’s there...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Dirty politics goes viral
    Join the latest social networking craze this election that every Dog Cat and Jabba is putting on their facebook pages.     Joe Trinder – Ngāti Awa Born and born in Ōtepoti Ōtākou, Ex RNZN he is an Information Technology...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Blogwatch: An open letter to David Farrar: Please, be that guy
    Dear David, In light of  Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics, you wrote a blog entitled ‘Some changes on Kiwiblog’ and you suggested it was time to tighten up ship on your website, saying “I want to improve trust in myself,...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • What The Hell Was That! Reflections on the media’s coverage of the Intern...
    WHAT, EXACTLY, DO WE KNOW about the confrontation outside Internet-Mana’s campaign launch? Well, we know the news media was there in force. We also know Internet-Mana’s media person, Pam Corkery, blew her stack. We know that Corkery’s outburst led the...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • NZ First candidate – homophobic, bennie bashing anti-intellectual clown
    Oh God, apart from Ron Mark, Tracey Martin, Curwen Rolinson and Winston before midday, the woeful cavalcade of political circus freaks NZ First seem to attract has picked up another hitchhiker. This time Epsom candidate Cliff Lyon who said this about Labour… “If...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Nicky Hager Public Meeting LIVESTREAM on The Daily Blog 7.30pm Wednesday 27...
    As part of our commitment to the 2014 Election debate, The Daily Blog will Livestream the Nicky Hager public meeting in Auckland, 7.30pm live from the Mt Eden War Memorial this Wednesday on this site. Doors open at 7pm. It...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Opening Night. It’s like an opera!
    On Saturday night just gone, we collectively experienced one of the premier panegyrys of political pageantry in our three yearly electoral cycle. For one glorious weekend evening every three years, it’s not the All Blacks or some Super 14 team, or...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Unions – what ...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Timor-Leste’s Parliament handed ‘humiliating’ defeat over harsh media...
    East Timorese journalists raise their hands to approve the Timor-Leste JournalistCode of Ethics in October 2013. Photo: Tempo Semanal/Cafe Pacific   David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. PACIFIC SCOOP reported this week that East Timor’s Appeal Court had scrapped...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • THIS is why we need a public broadcaster!
    The richest 20% of us in NZ own 70% of the wealth, with 18% in the hands of the second richest quintile, and 10% in the hands of the middle quintile. Just 2 per cent was owned by people in...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • A vote for Key is a vote for this
    A vote for Key is a vote for this...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Why the Secret Intelligence Service feeding Cameron Slater information is s...
    Folks, it doesn’t matter if you are Right or Left, the issue of the Secret Intelligence Service being forced to feed a far right hate speech merchant like Cameron Slater with sensitive information is an ‘us’ issue. The SIS are...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • How lost and irrelevant are ACT?
    So ACT had it’s ‘launch’. Well, what passes as an ACT launch these days. Lot’s of anorak’s with that 1000 yard star and dreams of a Milton Friedman Free Market dancing behind their eyelids all crammed into a room small...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • National Party rowing advert aimed at Gen Xers
    Unkind wags such as myself would suggest that if the above were a real representation of National, it would look more like this…   National know they have the rural mob and the angry provincial vote locked in, with their...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • National Housing propaganda – McGehan Close Revisited
    .   . Housing has become a major, defining issue in New Zealand. We have critical shortages and escalating prices in  in the main centres and falling house values in the regions. The National government has addressed the supply &...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • The boldest, most creative and dynamic policy on employment for two generat...
    If you watched TV news last night you could be forgiven for thinking that a circus was on when Internet MANA launched its election campaign today. The reporting was abysmal but I won’t rehash it here because it’s been described...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Call for Aaron Bhatnagar’s resignation from govt body
    .   . One of the many sordid “bit”-players in Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics“, and one of Cameron Slater’s inner-cabal, is businessman, National Party card-carrying cadre,  and former city councillor, Aaron Bhatnagar; . . In 2008, Bhatnagar was caught...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Internet MANA announce free tertiary education & full employment – me...
    Internet MANA launch their campaign after an extraordinary road tour and after gaining 4% in the Colmar Brunton Poll, today should have been the start point for a momentous occasion  in progressive political history. It was, but sadly most won’t...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Privilege denies true representation of disability rights
    The human right of people with disabilities in New Zealand has come back into the spotlight by the Human Rights Commission. The report named ‘Making Disability Rights Real’ highlights some of the main issues as being adequate data collection, accessibility,...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • Election TV campaign ads – Opening Night
    . .The infamous National Party ‘Dancing Cossacks’ Attack advert  NZ, 23 August -  The election campaign “kicked off” on Saturday evening, with a one hour “televisual feast”. Party advertisements were broadcast for National, Labour, Greens, NZ First, United Future/Peter Dunne,...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • Blogging vs Journalism vs Politics – The 7 latest revolting revelations
    So we now enter the most dangerous phase for National, the phase where the minutia of detail is so great now, the media have all the ammunition to keep asking questions that clearly show Key isn’t being honest in his...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • A positive story of political co-operation!
    .   . Wellington, NZ, 23 August - The following is a true story and shows how the natural inclination of the rank-and-file of our main left-wing parties is to work together… I’ve been in contact with both the Green...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • Labour’s environment policy welcomed
    The independent conservation organisation Forest & Bird says that overall the Labour Party’s newly released environment policy would go a long way towards protecting New Zealand’s natural heritage....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • National: Not our Future Marches across New Zealand
    Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government's track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin to oppose National's...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Tune in to tonight’s debate from 7pm
    The countdown is on! You can watch the first leader’s debate for 2014 tonight, 7pm, on TV One ....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Gamblefree Day 1 September
    It's Gamblefree Day this Monday 1 September, the national awareness day for problem gambling in New Zealand. While traditionally celebrated on the first day of September, many events and activities are held both before and after this day to raise...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Success through captioning should be a given as a Right
    Success through captioning should be a given as a Right per the Convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Alcohol Marketing Committee Questions Government’s Motives
    An Independent Expert Committee on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (IECAAS) has been formed out of concern amongst alcohol and public health researchers about the government’s Ministerial Forum on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (MFAAS)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • How Much Higher Can Auckland Prices Go?
    National's plan to liberalise the use of Kiwisaver funds and its proposal to raise ts cheap "Welcome Home" loan thresholds to help buyers purchase a new home has been welcomed by home building companies but attacked as a "welfare scheme...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • OPC submission period extended
    We have extended the submission period for the modified reassessment of a bee control affecting five organophosphate and carbamate insecticides (APP202142)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Vinay Deobhakta struck off roll of barristers and solicitors
    The New Zealand Lawyers and Conveyancers Disciplinary Tribunal has ordered former Tauranga lawyer Vinay Deobhakta to be struck off the roll of barristers and solicitors....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Major parties to front up for Climate Voter election debate
    New Zealand’s main political parties will take part in ‘The Great Climate Voter Debate’ on September 3....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Family violence… too big to be ignored
    As Annah Stretton gears up for her New Zealand Fashion Week show on Thursday she is utilizing her spotlight to help change the face of family violence in this country saying “the problem is far too big to ignore”....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Candidate’s SOS to northern Maori voters: Save our seats!
    (Extract from address by Rev Te Hira Paenga to Kura Hourua Maori Political Leaders hui, in Whangarei this evening)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Mary O’Neill to Stand for the Alliance in Napier
    The Alliance Party has confirmed Mary O’Neill as the Alliance candidate in the Napier Electorate for the 2014 election....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • TONIGHT [28/8/14]: The Great Political Comedy Debate
    It's a night for debating. You could stay home frowning at tonight's Leaders debate, or laugh it up with us at BATS!...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Cunliffe against personal responsibility over billboards
    The accusation by David Cunliffe that the Conservative Party is subscribing to a surveillance society by protecting its billboards via the use of motion sensor cameras reveals an anti-personal responsibility position by the about-to-be-retired Leader...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Groundbreaking health and climate conference
    The World Health Organization (WHO) is holding its first conference on climate change and health at its headquarters in Geneva this week, with New Zealand health experts in attendance....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Te Tai Tokerau Party
    Last night at the Leadership Academy of Company A debate Clinton Dearlove announced the creation of a new political party supported by Whanau and Hapu....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Significant fallout from Dirty Politics allegations
    Dirty politics ... costing National up to 3.8% of its pre-publication support Large numbers of New Zealanders are aware of and talking about the issues raised as a result of the publication of Nicky Hager’s book, Dirty Politics, according to...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Colin Craig is “deluded and dangerous” – Act
    “Colin Craig is proposing a radical transformation of our constitution. The Conservatives are proposing to overthrow of one hundred and fifty odd years of parliamentary democracy and replace it with binding referenda” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • WoF law will evict the poor and students from their houses
    The Green warrant of fitness law will evict the poor and students from their houses, if they’re lucky enough to find a place to rent in the first place...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Police response to IPCA report on ‘out of control’ parties
    Police accept today's Independent Police Conduct Authority report recommendations regarding the handling of 'out of control' parties and has already improved its policies and practices for managing these complex and sometimes violent situations....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Review of Police handling of ‘out of control’ parties
    An Independent Police Conduct Authority review has found that Police are working to ensure officers called upon to deal with out of control gatherings in future are better trained to deal with the situations they may face....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Wynyard and NZ Police Announce Ground-breaking Partnership
    Auckland, 28 August 2014 - Wynyard Group, a market leader in advanced crime analytics software and services, today welcomed the New Zealand Police as a long term partner in its Crime Science Research Institute (CSRI)....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Polls confirm dirty politics out and the Conservatives in
    The latest 3News-Reid Research poll has the Conservative Party on 4.6 per cent which means they are virtually on their way to Parliament. Garth McVicar, the Conservative Party candidate for the Napier electorate believes the polls are proof that the...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Toke the Vote 2014: NORML’s guide to NZ cannabis policies
    NORML’s policy, renewed at our recent national conference , is to encourage supporters to vote for parties and candidates who will work to reform our cannabis laws....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Internet Mana List Embodies Modern Aotearoa
    An impressive mix of personal and professional skills, cultural backgrounds and ages marks the release of Internet MANA’s combined party list. “Our list highlights the calibre of talent woven throughout Internet MANA,” said leader Hone Harawira....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • The Dirty Politics Fallout
    Tonight’s 3News-Reid Research poll shows that the Conservative Party is on the verge of making it into the next Parliament, even without an electorate deal with National. The poll, conducted in the week following the release of Nicky Hager’s...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Te reo Māori trending at New Zealand Fashion Week
    Language and fashion express culture and identity so it’s fitting for the Māori Party to launch its te reo Māori policy at New Zealand’s premiere fashion event in Auckland....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Party And Candidate Lists for 2014 Election Released
    The Electoral Commission has released the nominations for the 2014 General Election, with 15 registered political parties and 554 candidates contesting the election....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Take Steps Against Child Poverty with Us!
    TAKE STEPS AGAINST CHILD POVERTY WITH US! Britomart to Aotea Square, Auckland, 11am, Saturday 6 Sept Music * Interactive Art * Stilt Walkers * Great Speakers * Plus more!...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Leading politicians to debate NZ’s role in the world
    Have you ever wondered where New Zealand stands when it comes to issues beyond our borders? Join Amnesty International's North Shore Group on Monday 1 September for a lively cross party debate and the chance to find out the answer...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Political Debate on Family Violence – Livestream
    The Dunedin Collaboration Against Family Violence is happy to announce the upcoming political debate on Family Violence chaired by Professor Nicola Atwool of the University of Otago. Family Violence is a huge problem in our community and we invite representatives...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Politicians ignore 20% of New Zealanders
    Despite 20% of New Zealanders supporting it, none of the parties currently represented in Parliament endorse the legalisation of cannabis....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Company tax rates
    The Op Ed pages of the left-leaning New York Times are full of articles by economists supporting proposals to dramatically lower Company Taxes. These economists are urging the United States to lower company taxes and point to Canada where the...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Stephen Dudley Case: No appeal or review of discharge
    On 8 August 2014 Crown Law received a request from the office of the Auckland Crown Solicitor to consider a Crown appeal against the discharge without conviction entered in respect of M in the High Court at Auckland on 7...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Dudley Family Statement
    “We are utterly devastated at the news regarding the law not allowing for this unjustified discharge without conviction to be appealed....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Chief Judge: Chief Sized Offender Bias
    “Justice by name, not by nature” states Ruth Money Sensible Sentencing Trust National Spokesperson, of Justice Helen Winkelmann’s decision to discharge without conviction the offender charged with the fatal attack on 15 year old schoolboy Stephen...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Confusion over BPS Reducing Crime and Reoffending Results
    A survey has revealed widespread confusion – even amongst professionals in the justice sector – about what the government’s reducing crime and reoffending progress reports actually mean....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Commission condemns violent attack on Gay Wellingtonians
    The Human Rights Commission has condemned a violent attack on staff and patrons at a gay bar in central Wellington last Friday. GayNZ reported that the alleged attackers were abusive and violent when they realised the bar and the people...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • One down, 12 to go says Community Housing Aotearoa
    The Waimahia Inlet is a step in the right direction for community housing to deliver 20% of New Zealand’s social and affordable housing by 2020, says Community Housing Aotearoa. CHA Director Scott Figenshow says the sector has been set a...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Research considering changes to pedestrian crossing laws
    A University of Canterbury research project has been considering the costs and benefits of a range of potential changes to pedestrian crossing laws that would bring New Zealand in line with the rest of the world....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Dairy farmers and consumers at risk from unapproved GE Grain
    The Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI) must immediately test all maize and soy for presence of unapproved GE lines coming from the Americas....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • NZ on Air Refuse to Condemn “Kill the PM” Song
    New Zealand On Air has refused to condemn @peace’s 'Kill the PM' song, and will not provide any assurance that no further taxpayer money will be used to support groups that promote violence and political hate. Earlier today the Taxpayers’...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • iPredict Ltd 2014 Election Update #32
    The combined wisdom of iPredict’s 8000 registered traders suggests National has begun a recovery after its prospects crashed last week following the release of Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics . The governing party’s forecast party vote is back...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Juicy carrot for prisoners alarming suggestion – McVicar
    The Conservative Party Justice Spokesman, Garth McVicar says the public will be alarmed to learn that the only tool the Corrections Department has available to get prisoners to behave is to offer them a juicy carrot....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Panel: Fiji’s Return to Democracy
    Fiji’s post-coup elections and their impact in the Pacific o What is the role of the media in the Elections? o How might New Zealand help Fiji on its return to democracy?...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Cross-party consensus on climate change critical
    Senior NZ health professionals welcome recent policy announcements on climate change by major political parties, saying cross-party consensus is critical to address this leading health issue....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Minister of Transport to Attend Election Debate Tomorrow
    Organisers of tomorrow night's transport debate in Auckland are delighted that Minister of Transport Hon. Gerry Brownlee will now be attending....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Society Applauds Proposed NZ-Wide Risk Assessment
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