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After the firefight

Written By: - Date published: 7:30 pm, November 21st, 2012 - 126 comments
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To paraphrase a great man of the Labour Party, Shearer won, Cunliffe lost, eat that.

Whatever Cunliffe did or didn’t do, he’s been demoted.  Shearer has arranged a convenient vote of confidence in his leadership which I have to hope even his supporters can see is a complete paper tiger.

There’s still going to be a vote in February.  So there’s still going to be media focus on fun inter-faction crap instead of Actual Issues.

The point I’m stuck on is this:  now there are calls for “unity” – which does kinda bug me because there’s a big difference between genuine unity (punctuated by hopefully constructive arguments) and everyone pretending to get along for the cameras and not calling out bad shit because It Will Look Bad.

And a lot of these calls for unity seem to imply that basically, it’s the anti-Shearer people who need to put up or shut up, who need to stop pointing out his perceived errors.

But even today, while David Cunliffe takes his lumps and doesn’t comment to the media, as instructed, as agreed by caucus … well looky here, someone’s been talking to Claire Trevett about what went down in the caucus room.

I’m all for unity – genuine unity punctuated by constructive arguments, that is – and I’m all for waiting until February, looking at Shearer’s performance, letting the democratic wheels of the Labour Party turn.

But not when “unity” means “Cunliffe fans shut up, Shearer fans do whatever the hell they like”.  Not when “unity” means refraining from pointing out that it’s leaky bullshit like this which makes the Labour Party look unstable.  Not when “unity” means pretending that David Shearer’s faction aren’t acting like insecure Mean Girls who just got told someone else is wearing white gold hoops to prom.

Let’s have proper debate if we need to.  Let’s smack down the media narrative that people disagreeing within a party = SCANDALOUS INFIGHTING.  Let’s all grow the fuck up.  Starting with David Shearer and Trevor Mallard.

126 comments on “After the firefight”

  1. geoff 1

    Paranoid Conspiracy Theory That I Just Thought Of:
    Rightwingers organise to join the Labour Party before Feb so they can vote and influence leadership vote.

    Could this happen?

    • karol 1.1

      Some claim they are already doing that. I guess they have no respect for democracy & will be happy to skew the system in their favour.

      • BM 1.1.1

        Where’s the lack of respect for democracy?
        I’m voting Shearer in an attempt to halt Cunliffe.
        National will eventually lose, so when it does I want the leader of the opposition to be as closely aligned to my type of thinking as possible.

        • felix 1.1.1.1

          Will you be actively working against your new-found party in the hope that they lose the election?

          If so you’re a traitor.

    • geoff 1.2

      why the fuck would anybody even bother

      [lprent: we already have a current geoff, changing your handle. ]

    • Well they are welcome to if they contribute money, all the more to use against Key in 2014.

  2. One of the qualities that Mr Shearer said about himself when or just prior to getting elected leader, is that he had lots of negotiation skills “you are going to see a different type of politics” type thing, it appeared that he knew how to deal with conflict in a positive manner.

    I thought this sounded very good at the time.

    What has occurred recently indicates very clearly that no such skills are evident or exist. A very poor show.

    • Tom Gould 2.1

      Hard to ‘negotiate’ or cut a ‘deal’ with someone who smiles and agrees and lies to your face, then sets about leaking and spinning and back stabbing the second they leave the room.

  3. Dr Terry 3

    Well, once more I find myself looking to quotes in connection with “leadership”. Here goes:

    Leadership is an opportunity to serve. It is not a trumpet call to self-importance” (J. Donald Walters)
    Strange, but it is not Cunliffe who comes to mind!

    You don’t lead by hitting people over the head – that’s assault, not leadership (Dwight D. Eisenhower).
    Funny, but again one is not thinking of Cunliffe here! Who else might there be?

    Leadership has a harder job to do than just choose sides. It must bring sides together (“unity” from Jesse Jackson).
    Somebody managed not to achieve that yesterday! (And he is author of an article on Conflict Resolution! Have a guess who!)

    Leadership is about nurturing and enhancing (Tom Peters). Well, Tom, you sure can say that again!
    If only!

    Bad leadership during the past years has cast on our Party the shadow of great and grave burdens (Bob Iger). Think about it (if you need to think).

    When a man assumes leadership, he forfeits the right to mercy (G. Angiulo). Again, we just might have somebody in mind! (They are not my words!)

    That will do for tonight’s exercises in meditation.

    • Jenny 3.1

      Churchill: You’ve got enemies. Good. It means you stood for something.

    • Rhinocrates 3.2

      I’m thinking too of Admiral Sir John Jellico (later Governor General of NZ and keen yachtie) who was nicknamed “Silent Jack”. It was said of him that he never raised his voice… because he never needed to.

      Unlike David Cartman… I mean Shearer, who demands that people respect his authortitah.

      • Pascal's bookie 3.2.1

        “the beatings shall continue..”

        • Peter 3.2.1.1

          Ah yes, the flogging will stop when the morale improves.

          As a matter of fact, I got a cease and desist message from an MP in the Shearer faction today too, simply for my comments on this blog.

          • lprent 3.2.1.1.1

            And you have been somewhat moderate.

            But folks, now you know why I insist on making sure that pseudonyms are respected. For that matter why it is part of the RFC for the net (for those that don’t know what these are – they were the tool that built the net). I dug it out for Mike after I referred to ‘net rules’. There are a few more RFC’s around that relate to similar topics.

            http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 Netiquette Guidelines

            It is from 1995 and largely about usenet, but the same principles carry through to this type of forum. In fact these were mostly cribbed from earlier documents that were common around BBS’es.

            “If a user is using a nickname alias or pseudonym, respect that user’s desire for anonymity. Even if you and that person are close friends, it is more courteous to use his nickname. Do not use that person’s real name online without permission.”

            and of course

            “Material which is inappropriate when posted under one’s own name is still inappropriate when posted anonymously.”

            But I suspect that I won’t get call from an MP, they probably really aren’t likely to like what I say. If I get a message then they’d better state their authority to make it. It is going to be interesting to see if anyone actually tries the John A Lee approach

            I should write a post so those ill-educate journo’s and politicians learn about net cultures. They have no idea on how deep that the net culture penetrates deep into all of the systems.

      • lurgee 3.2.2

        Is this the same Jellicoe that Churchill described (WW1) as being the only man on either side capable of LOSING the war in an afternoon?

        Wouldn’t mind not being compared to him, frankly.

    • Jenny 3.3

      While we’re talking about leadership quotes. Here is one of my favourites:

      There is no such thing as bad soldiers.
      Only bad generals.

      Napoleon

  4. tc 4

    ‘Let’s all grow the fuck up. Starting with David Shearer and Trevor Mallard.’ well the former doesn’t seem to care who leaks what (which will be used against him by the nats) and the latter is incapable of such an act.

    English 02 is being re-run as DS in 14, with the same architects of the Goff era 08-11 running the show, it’s the most inevitable of train crashes so be nice and toe the line all you party faithful or you’ll miss being part of the wreckage.

    • alwyn 4.1

      I read the original post and thought yes, yes,, this can be achieved.
      Then I read the last paragraph and realised that getting Mallard to grow up is impossible.
      He seems to vary between the behaviour of a two year old who has just learnt the word NO and a testosterone charged fifteen year old male teenager. In either case he is never going to grow up.

  5. Jenny 5

    A phony unanimous vote for the leader, followed by rounds of applause for the leader each person afraid to be the first to be seen to stop clapping.

    20th century Soviet Russia? or 21st century Labour Caucus?

    A phony unanimous vote usually means a phony leader.

    • lurgee 5.1

      What’s phoney about it? They endorsed Shearer as leader for now. If there was a genuine desire to get rid of him directly, then it would have happened. There wasn’t, so it didn’t. Applying your favourite words to something doesn’t actually make it true. I can describe myself as handsome, witty, well sexed, successful and happy, but only some of those words genuinely apply.

      And it is pretty repulsive to hear people describing this as akin to Stalinist Russia. A sort of leftwing version of godwin’s Law should be formulated. Perhaps, the first socialist to compare a political opponent to Stalin loses the argument and is a dick?

      • Colonial Viper 5.1.1

        What’s phoney about it?

        its as genuine as returning the North Korean leader with a 99.6% majority.

      • Jenny 5.1.2

        Is the saying, phoney as a two bob watch still used these days?

        It’s phoney because it was only extracted with the use of threats and bribes, the promise of promotion and threatened demotion by the Shearer gang. In a free vote Shearer may still have won it. But no way, not in this universe, or any other, would it be unanimous.

        Kim Il Sung was a leader who regularly received unanimous endorsement of his position as leader at party conferences.

        20th century Soviet congress, or 21st century Labour caucus such unanimous votes by their very nature are phoney.

        Let me ask you this lurgee;

        If you really think this was a free and not a phoney unanimous vote. Do you also think the vote in February will see the caucus members voting unanimously in support of their ‘Dear Leader’?

        If so, you are in cloud cuckoo land

        • lurgee 5.1.2.1

          Awesome. Now we’ve got North Korea in the mix as well. You guys just don’t stop giving! Can we get some African and Arab dictators as well?

          I don’t know if the LP caucus will vote unanimously for DS in Feb. I doubt they will. But that’s not the point, is it? Shearer asked if he had the current and ongoing (in the short term) support of his peers. They said they did. February is another matter.

          • blue leopard 5.1.2.1.1

            @Lurgee,

            There is no debate in the above responses to you over whether a Caucus poll was conducted; the comments were related to the nature of the poll; that it was phony.

            Your response doesn’t address this issue.

          • Jenny 5.1.2.1.2

            Yeh. Maybe Shearer can throw them some mango skins.

          • Bill 5.1.2.1.3

            February is another matter.

            BINGO!

            See, that’s basically what Cunliffe indicated over the weekend, y’know, when he said that Shearer had his confidence/support but that speculating on February had nothing to do with the conference or matters being discussed at the conference.

          • Colonial Viper 5.1.2.1.4

            But that’s not the point, is it? Shearer asked if he had the current and ongoing (in the short term) support of his peers. They said they did. February is another matter.

            Cunliffe met all these criteria.

            And yet Shearer and the ABCs took the flamethrower to him anyway.

  6. Well said QoT.
    Can i say that without being accused of hating freedom and loving terrorism?

  7. NZ Femme 7

    “…The point I’m stuck on is this: now there are calls for “unity” – which does kinda bug me because there’s a big difference between genuine unity (punctuated by hopefully constructive arguments) and everyone pretending to get along for the cameras and not calling out bad shit because It Will Look Bad…”

    Bugs me too. The stench from this fire isn’t going to dissipate anytime soon for me. Particularly the stink of wippet boy Chris Hipkin’s commentary to the press. The glee in which he delivered his barrage was embarrassing to watch.

    The likening of David Cunliffe to a huhu grub by Minister of Porn Shane Jones has likewise left a particularly nasty smell in my nostrils.

    These are the most vivid images/odours this average left leaning voter has been left with after the past few days. Funnily enough, neither reflect on David Cunliffe, who now smells strangely like roses to me.

    • weka 7.1

      Weirdly he smells like that to me too (Cunliffe). I don’t even know if I like the guy. It’s very strange to be herded into the Cunliffe camp by a series of bizarre events even though I probably wouldn’t have chosen to be there otherwise (and am only there because I happened to be standing round watching when the shit hit the fan).

  8. Stanley1946 8

    Those who do not learn the lessons of history are condemned to repeat them, said somebody.
    Maybe Hegel said it better when he said, ‘We learn from history that no-one learns from history.’
    Born in 1946, I am old enough to remember the early TV debates between a murderously focused and confident Rob Muldoon, and a ‘nice guy’ called Bill Rowling, who had taken over leadership from the miraculously eloquent Norman Kirk. I noticed that Bill R blinked a lot. Far too much… I used to amuse myself by counting the number of times he would blink per phrase, even if I lost count for the whole interview… Despite the formation of the ‘Citizens for Rowling’ group and other desperate measures taken by the Left’s advocates, I suspected that the public would not warm to blinky Rowling, and much to my disgust, Muldoon won by a landslide.

    • Rhinocrates 8.1

      Except that Shearer has now trashed any hopes of being perceived as a “nice guy”, so he’s now got nothing. “Bumbling and inarticulate but basically a nice guy” (if you’re not a beneficiary) has been replaced by “bumbling, inarticulate and prone to panic and become vindictive and totalitarian when under pressure.”

      In my mind, he’s not Satan or Stalin, but rather a multiple-choice question.

      David Shearer is:

      (A) A genuinely nice guy with a lot of potential that will become apparent any day now , perhaps even as soon as 1993, but cruelly undermined by Darth Cunliffe.

      (B) Dilbert’s Pointy-Haired Boss.

      (C) The Second Coming of Leonid Brezhnev.

      (D) Eric Cartman suddenly given authoritah.

      (E) A fundamentally weak man out of his depth who thinks that authoritarianism is strength, like all bullies. As such, he is easily manipulated by underlings who can’t take responsibility themselves.

      (F) All of the above, excepting A.

      A sign, I think, of the Labour caucus’ decadence is their belief that first, they are destined for power, no matter what and that therefore they simply should wait to have it delivered to them; and that second, when this doesn’t happen, it is because all of their real enemies are internal.

      • RedLogix 8.1.1

        You’re getting better and better Rhino….

      • Colonial Viper 8.1.2

        A sign, I think, of the Labour caucus’ decadence is their belief that first, they are destined for power, no matter what and that therefore they simply should wait to have it delivered to them

        The peoples’ party has become a born to rule aristocracy consisting of establishment Old Guard MPs supplemented by newer MPs who are actually all their own Former Staffers.

    • lurgee 8.2

      Santayana for the first one. Hegel said something similar (but said it first) and Marx played with it a little bit: “Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.” Question is, are we in the tragedy or farce phase?

  9. Herodotus 9

    So where is the comment from Shearer of disappointment that someone has leaked caucus business, and what is being done to ascertain the source of Trevett’s article. To some the actions of this individual have been condoned by Shearer and co.
    Cunliffe already appears as a martyr ” He later said he was not able to comment because caucus had decided that only Mr Shearer would speak on the matter.” whilst another faction has been re reading Machiavelli.

  10. Draco T Bastard 10

    Required fucken reading.

    Party fratricide does not necessarily spell the death of the Party but is a sign not only of deep division within it, but of fundamental weakness. After all, if a Party cannot unite around a common set of objectives, leaders or beliefs in the face of a coherent and well-organized opposition, then it is less a political Party than an amalgam of sectoral interests forced together by political circumstance and shallow ideological affinity.

    IMO, The Labour Party as it once was is toast.

    • karol 10.1

      Ah, yes. I quoted from that somewhere today … here. I thought the bit about “absence of core values” seems apt for the NZ LP today. Even though they have a long list of principles etc on their website, Somehow the practice and the words and the spirit don’t match up.

       

    • Rhinocrates 10.2

      Actually, while I find cynicism and sarcasm oh so easy, I really do take heart from the conference. The membership asserted itself brilliantly. The people who constitute the actual party are committed and energised. They know what they want and they’ve got it. The party is not a lost cause, not by any means, and they might yet turn the caucus in the medium term.

  11. [RL: Deleted. You are on a one week ban. See here]

  12. AmaKiwi 12

    John Armstrong told us this morning the Labour Party doesn’t need an open election in February 2013 because it’s already been decided.

    I’ll go with Armstrong because he’s always right . . . very right.

    • Craig Glen Eden 12.1

      Thankfully John Armstrong does not run the Labour Party as of last Saturday the members do heres to February. I bet their will a BBQ or two at Phils place between now and February. Shearer should cancel all overseas holidays.

  13. QoT like lots of people on TS are confused by the call for unity. Yet that is exactly what the right must appeal to in order to blame those on the left for challenging their power. They will get away with it if people fall for this call for unity, masking as it does the real stakes in play.

    In effect that appeal to unity is to ask those on the left who stand for the traditional constituency of LP, the working class, especially the poorest, to remain passive and follow orders from the right cabal of reconstructed neo-liberals to make the poor pay for the global crisis, by balancing budgets, allowing regressive taxes to rule, only tinkering with the market in housing, interest rates etc. What the Shearer right offers international finance capital is a soft cop government to follow the hard cop NACTs when they have finished their rip, shit, bust rule. That is why the Shearer right is not opposing the NACTs. It is waiting for its turn in office with its nicer, kinder brand of neo-liberalism.

    Now the right cabal has exposed its role as the power base of Blairite neo-liberalism, unity with these traitors to the working class amounts to treason. It is to give up the fight and resign to the global capitalist program to strip NZ of its assets and drive NZ workers further into cheap, deregulated slave labour for international finance capital.

    Seen in this light, unity on these terms is betrayal, while disunity around the growing open split between the interests of capital and labour reflects the reality, that the fight for control of the Labour Party is a symptom of the class war. To win a war you have to understand you are in one, and prepare to fight it, or go down in defeat. If you don’t fight, you don’t win.

  14. Grassroots 14

    There will be no unity until the membership have a chance to exercise their democratic rights which they have just gained from the conference. It’s time to get the Party back!

  15. Chrissy 15

    Given all the grief and rage, it’s worth reviewing a few things as they happened again: the role of the media beatup for one, trying to prise a provocation out of Cunliffe, then running off to tell Shearer Cunliffe is going after him, on the strength of this story.

    It’s not pretty, but here it is, from Saturday at conference. Remember this is TV3 rolling out their best material from a fair bit of filming to try to prop up their leadership challenge story.

    http://www.3news.co.nz/Shearer-denies-Labour-leadership-shakeup/tabid/370/articleID/277072/Default.aspx

    • Judge Holden 15.1

      Yes, there was no attempt by Cunliffe or any of his supporters to undermine the leadership. None at all. Why are you all acting as the Nats’ proxies? They’re laughing at you, guys. At you.

      • lprent 15.1.1

        I know of nothing overt that Cunliffe did that undermined the leadership. So far the best anyone has come up with is that he smiled and was known to have stood against Shearer.

        And supporters? Really? Give me a break. Again no evidence, no smoking gun, and presumably you’d waffle off into a morass of meaningless supposition and innuendo when challenged.

        Cunliffe has about as much chance of controlling supporters as whale has of controlling his urges to being tacky and kind of disgusting. This is a country where we don’t permit pathetic thought police to gain a toehold. So people cannot be persecuted for the thoughts of others. And idiots like yourself can say those types of dumbarse things without it reflecting back on to Shearer.

        Incidentally if attitudes like your unthinking stupidity ever did become the norm, then you’d find me taking some far different actions than merely running a blog.

        In the meantime you rather look like a fool.

        • Judge Holden 15.1.1.1

          You’re the ones being played. You’re currently spending all your time attacking one another, with quite a degree of viciousness I might add, while the tories are quietly going about enriching themselves at your expense. And I’m the fool? Get real.

          • lprent 15.1.1.1.1

            Sorry, I didn’t realize you were a troll. So you have nothing to say? Nothing to contribute? No intelligence..

            Oh well you will probably get swept away in a moderation sweep.

            • Judge Holden 15.1.1.1.1.1

              A moderation sweep? What are you Big Brother?

              [lprent: Yes but I prefer the computer nomenclature - old school. Around here I'm usually known as sysop, or BOFH. People departing usually just refer to me as bastard. However my mother disagrees...

              Read the about and the policy. While there are a number of moderators, I'm probably the nastiest overall. I find humiliation works best on people who are too stupid to read the site rules. Like you. It encourages them not to make the same foolish error elsewhere on the net. ]

              • Judge Holden

                Don’t be a dick. That sort of crap is expected from the likes of the losers and shills at No Minister and Keeping Stock, but you’re supposedly better than that.

          • the pink postman. 15.1.1.1.2

            It seems to me that some people just like to find fault with Labour. These are the same crowd that talk but never act to help Labour. The same lot who attacked Helen Clark ,attacked Phil Goff and now are having a go at David Shearer . The New Lynn LEC. needs to have a good look at it self . Do they want a Labour Government 2014 or do they want another session with the disaster we have now. or do they just want an excuse to moan and criticize. Direct your stupid anger at Key and the evil P. Bennett or shut up now.

            • Judge Holden 15.1.1.1.2.1

              Agreed. This destructive behaviour will do nothing except ensure that the centre-left stays out of power and Joyce gets to continue looting. It’s naive, immature and really, really dumb.

            • Craig Glen Eden 15.1.1.1.2.2

              really pp what New Lynn LEC want like other Labour Party members as voted by them in the weekend is more say in the party . When have the New Lynn LEC complained about Helen Clarke or David Shearer. So the New Lynn LEC who raise money and give to the Party more than their Levies every year are moaners ? Well fuck me its the first I knew about it and I been involved with them for 10 years and what you are alleging is total bloody bullshit. these would be the same people including my self that spent hours putting up Shearer signs and had family members used for his campaign photos so next time you spout of shit get your bloody facts right.

              • Judge Holden

                No one said they were moaners. They and the others who seem incapable of accepting the party’s decision to make Shearer leader are making a very good fist of helping the Nats to retain power though. I put this down to petulance and naivete rather than anything untoward, but the outcome is the same.

                • Colonial Viper

                  They and the others who seem incapable of accepting the 18 MP’s decision to make Shearer leader

                  fify

                  And Shearer would not be having any problems now if he was making real leadership use of the horrible year that National are having.

                  • Judge Holden

                    That’s the process and if you want to see the centre-left in power any time this decade you should accept it and get on. You’re not helping anyone but Bennett, Brownlee, Joyce, McCully, Ryall and Key. Hope you feel good about that.

                    • felix

                      “That’s the process”

                      Was.

                    • Magnus McManus

                      That’s the point people seem to be missing. With Shearer as leader there will be no Labour-led government in 2014. No matter how much we act nice, ‘get in behind him’, ‘unify’, or ‘lend him our full support’. With Shearer as Leader, National will win 2014. No if’s, but’s or maybe’s.
                      They. Will Win.
                      Anyone who can’t see that needs to leave the party now. You’re nothing but a liability.

            • blue leopard 15.1.1.1.2.3

              @ The Pink Postman,

              I really don’t think the current criticism of Labour is coming from the place you are thinking it is.

              I note that there are many comments on TS in which Labour are praised for the policies that they came out with at the conference and then follow with criticism squarely shafted toward the caucus.

              If David Shearer wants to assert that he is in charge, as is so clearly what he was attempting to do re Cunliffe, he needs to address the media-leak that was done a few months ago resulting in an article severely criticizing Mr Cunliffe. I am truly surprised that he hasn’t already; it is an utterly terrible “look” to have such a snipey article published openly citing sources within the Labour party and the leader not addressing this. That he hasn’t, and yet severely chastised Mr Cunliffe over a lot less, makes it extremely easy to believe the ABC rumours and also makes it look like he (DS) would have actively had something to do with the snipey article himself. Very unbecoming; not asserting savvy leadership, as is apparent he is attempting to do.

              Opposition parties have a duty, and as many comments have said, with a Government this farcical this should be a fairly simple duty to achieve. Labour is somehow equalling the farcical nature of this Government-it is hard to believe that this would be possible, yet is the way I am starting to view these antics from the NZLP caucus. Disgraceful.

        • Jenny 15.1.1.2

          I know of nothing overt that Cunliffe did that undermined the leadership.

          Lynne Prentice

          Cunliffe spoke up on some rather major issues that the current leadership would rather not see raised at all. Caucus were afraid that if Cunliffe kept up this outrageous behaviour that they would be forced to take a stand one way or another.

          This presented a quandary.

          Come down on the conservative side of these issues, would be unpopular with flax roots Labour. Come down on the left side of these issues and hot oil and brimstone would be poured on their heads by the conservative establishment and business and media. Caught in this terrible bind, caucus decided it would be easier to shoot (sideline) the messenger.

      • Bill 15.1.2

        Oh, in case you missed it JH. I’m not a Labour Party member. I’m just a part of the working class. My politics are usually focussed on areas outside of what you might term the parliamentary framework. I also have no great expectations with regards parliamentary politics/politicians delivering anything much worth writing home about.

        But with Shearer, even my very low expectations are going to be confounded.

        Does it not say anything to you when a person who is usually disparaging of the parliamentary set up – who has almost zero expectations with regards that set-up – feels a need to speak out quite stridently on the matter of the leader of an opposition party being utterly inadequate?

        I wouldn’t expect much from Cunliffe either by the way. He would (I suspect) merely return my levels of disappointment in parliamentary politics to ‘normal’ levels.

        The policies that parliament enacted these past few terms have made my life a lot more difficult. But I expect that when a National led government drives policy. And I don’t expect too much from Labour. But I do expect something.

        The analogy I keep coming back to is that National governments simply break our legs while Labour governments break our legs and expect thanks when they affor us crutches. With Shearer there isn’t even that front of faux compassion. With Shearer, the impression I get is that there would be no ‘let up’. None at all.

        Further, I suspect NZ is going to tank within the next few years (Chinese and Australian bubbles popping). And the last thing I and thousands of others need is ‘apologetic’ austerity on top of the shit we’ve endured these past few years.

        Is Cunliffe a guarantee against apologetic austerity and people in my position being vilified? No. But apologetic austerity and on going vilification is a sure fire thing with Shearer.

        There is, I believe, the possibility of a ‘step change’ within the Labour Party due to the small injection of democratic procedure that came through at their conference. I believe it could make Labour politicians more responsive to the needs of ‘everyday’ people (insofar as they also members) I believe that if it comes about it will be driven on two fronts. One front would full of cynical old bastards like me who have really had enough after 30 years neo-liberal bullshit. The other is full of optimistic younger types who have no connection to or love for the old ossified heirarchies of control and who may be less inclined to defer to authority. Then again, it could just be the younger types want to ascend to power. Whatever.

        Point is, we can’t carry on along the 1980’s trajectory. We’ve had it with that. And maybe…and I am only saying maybe…the likes of Cunliffe would alter that trajectory somewhat.

        Whether there was a conspiracy or not, the fact is that many people with no connection to the LAbour Party feel an absolute and urgent need for a shift.

        and now i need coffee

  16. Alanz 16

    Hi Everyone

    I have always been supportive of the Labour leadership and their advisers regardless of who they have been. I have tried to withhold judgment in the past few days but increasingly find myself returning to the conclusion that the judgment calls – including particularly the latest one – which Shearer made reflects poorly on his ability as leader; do not put the Labour Party on the course for an inclusive, wise and democratic party; and has revealed he and his advisers are not able to competently balance and include a range of valid and legitimate interests within the Party.

    It pains me to say that history will record the present Labour leadership as losing sight of the way forward and the latest decision taken in caucus as been poor and wrong.

    Regardless of this, I will not walk away from the Party but will stand by to help ensure the Party stays on course.

    • lprent 16.1

      That does seem to be the approach that many people are taking.

      Looking at the way ahead, I doubt that there will wind up being a Feb vote pushed out to the party. There are simply going to be too many ways to exert pressure in the concentration camp that caucus has been made into. Running a Stalin style show trial because someone had leadership ambitions and smiled the wrong way? Without bothering to produce a shred of proof of smoking gun? Give me a break – this is bullshit

      Now into thursday and all we are getting is very poor spin. Hell I half keep expecting that we will start hearing about a tape that can’t be produced as someone suggested last night.

      FFS: how did we wind up with this pack of incompetents in caucus. This what you get by electing youngish staffers without any realworld grounding experience I guess.

      I doubt that we will get much progress in the party’s reforms going forward. Any movement towards greater democracy and transparency inside the party is going to be a threat to people who think like that.

      I was thinking it through this morning, and I can’t bring myself the for the kinds of incompetent politicians who’d run this kind of stalin type show trial. Imagine what would happen if people who think like that got into a position of real power. Urrgh.

      So it looks to me like I will be opting for voting Green in 2014 as being the most effective way to get competent politicians of a sort of left persausion into a position to topple National. The surprising thingto me is that I can think about them as being competent these days based on their performance.

      I guess I just joined the Labour Ulterior damnit.

      • Colonial Viper 16.1.1

        There are simply going to be too many ways to exert pressure in the concentration camp that caucus has been made into.

        And this is the classic Douglas/Prebble/Caygill play of the old bad times.

      • ad 16.1.2

        Crikey LPrent that’s a big call to turn Green after decades of service to Labour. Really sad.

        I have been a Labour activist for 13 years. And I feel the same.

        I could not look Shearer in the face and say I will fight for you, with all my money, all my strength, every volunteer hour I have to dispose of, and win an election. He just shames us.

        I have just had to do a 5k run every morning before sunrise just to collect the necessary seratonin for the day.

        I am utterly exhausted and dispirited about the Labour Party.

        • lprent 16.1.2.1

          Not turning Green. In many ways I have been green for a long time. Since reading some of John Brunner’s books back in the 70’s was bit of an eye opener for me and I did a lot of reading afterwards. Most people who do or did science that are based around biology or earth sciences are quite green because it gets pretty damn hard to pretend that the world is boundless when you look closely at how fragile some of the systems are. But the local Green’s have had a tendency of electing many people that I’d have to describe as flakes rather than politicians.

          But I’m going to vote Green because their politicians no longer turn my stomach with their ineptitude, whereas the some of the Labour ones do. Effectively shift the coalition.

          But I’m going to stay in Labour because the Labour party isn’t the same as the Labour caucus and the party is reforming whilst the caucus is getting worse.

          • ad 16.1.2.1.1

            Sorry shouldn’t have capitalised green as Green. What I was agreeing with was the sensibility, and the vote.

            Labour is beginning to remind me of my first marriage. Not that the grass is always Greener …

            Totally agree with your last paragraph.

      • Jackal 16.1.3

        I agree, it is bullshit, bullshit that many authors on The Standard also promoted 1prent. I seem to recall many requests for Labour to take a leadership challenge from Cunliffe seriously. Now you’re saying the only thing that was really wrong was Cunliffe smiling like Cheshire Cat when Shearer wasn’t. These two realities don’t reconcile themselves well.

        You claim that there is a move towards less democracy, while the NBR et al. says Labour has moved further to the left. I think you’ll agree that the left is inherently more democratic than the right 1prent. The left observe a move to the right, the right observe a move to the left… Nothing new there. My observation is that Labour hasn’t really changed all that much at all. They are still a centre left party with policy designed to help the bulk of New Zealanders, not just a select few.

        It’s amusing that an already Green party supporter is arguing against you becoming Green :) But do it for the right reasons 1prent, not any spur of the moment decision based on Cunliffe’s demotion because of meddling… Meddling that wasn’t just undertaken by the media btw. Unfortunately this meddling is continuing to undermine the left wing, not just Labour. I therefore think it is very foolish!

        I also recall warning people about undermining their own causes. In this I have observed a move by The Standard (The Standard ie it’s authors) towards the centre. A pity because the hard left viewpoint is one of the reasons I started reading The Standard in the first place.

        • Colonial Viper 16.1.3.1

          Labour is a Blairite third way party, if that’s what you’re saying passes for Centre Left these days.

  17. Uturn 17

    Cunliffe hasn’t “lost”, the game is still in play.
    Shearer cannot win, while the members and affiliates demand democracy.
    No single person is the power behind any political party.
    Under these conditions unity for democratic systems could exisit within the membership, but not around a caucus offering a direction members do not want to take.
    The membership can give up their power to whoever or whatever they want, or they can assert their autonomy, which will require on-going effort.
    The game of transition ends when the membership is satisfied of the outcome.

    • Pascal's bookie 17.1

      Well, while I admire the sentiment, I only agree up to point.

      There’s a process. Shearer’s have fucked all over that of course, but still.

      If the trigger doesn’t get pulled in the Feb caucus vote, then Shearer is leader fair and square and the party should fall in.

      So right now, I d suggest making sure memberships are up to date and had by them that want ‘em, and lobbying the fuck out of caucus, and the more privately the better on that last score.

      • Slartibartfast 17.1.1

        Is it only the Caucus which can pull the trigger?

        • Colonial Viper 17.1.1.1

          That’s what the rules say.

          Short of a major extra-constitutional action by a very large number of LECs and members of course… :cool:

          • Slartibartfast 17.1.1.1.1

            So……Caucus chooses Leader, Leader then effectively chooses caucus by removing those he doesn’t like, Leader can only be removed by caucus. Who chose those dumb rules?
            And you wonder why the party members end up with the opposite of what they want (for years and years).

    • ad 17.2

      This was the worst caucus meeting since 1987, according to all reports I have heard. Cunliffe has been firebombed into ash. I don’t like it but he is politically dead. There is no coming back.

      Whether the members have a say or not is only one or two swinging votes away from Shearer’s magic 22 block. My bet is that’s easy to get because Shearer has all the capacity to buy votes with safe seat appointments. Andrew Little replacing Ross Robertson is the easy play. There will be more.

      There needs to be a new hero found for those who don’t want Shearer. And there isn’t one.

      I think Shearer gets a 5% Preferred PM bump, Robertson is content with holding the full deck, and this is precisely where we are in October 2014.

      • Jenny 17.2.1

        Cunliffe has been firebombed into ash. I don’t like it but he is politically dead. There is no coming back.

        ad

        Never say never, ad. Like Lynne I believe that Shearer has the numbers and levers within caucus to avoid the trigger vote. It’s a shame but probably true.

        But a true leader doesn’t need title, or position, to shape events. I believe that if Cunliffe is not intimidated into silence and keeps openly expressing his views on the subjects close to his heart. (which is his right to do as an MP). Then by moral pressure alone he will embarrass the current leadership to adopt policies further to the left than they they would, if left to their own devices.

        To David Cunliffe; stick in there.

        I have been impressed by your discipline and restraint under fire.

        Don’t let this set back stop you speaking the truth about the climate or the economy.

        As Labour Party back bench member and moral leader, The financiers and the polluters won’t like you for it, neither will their parliamentary lickspittles, but the climate the economy and the poor will thank you it.

        As the leader of Pussy Riot told the court when she was sentenced to two years in prison. I feel sorry for all you people because we are free to say what we like.

        David, I believe that you have history, but also the public on your side.

        In the end, the ways of truth always triumph over the ways of wickedness, guile and lies. And with each day that passes, the ways of truth are more and more triumphant even though we are still behind bars and are likely to be here a lot longer yet.

        Nadezhda Tolokonnikova Pussy riot

        Kia kaha. Jenny

  18. Uturn 18

    “…Shearer is leader fair and square and the party should fall in.”

    So you are arguing that people should give up their autonomy to authority for the illusion of consensus. That is the reason this problem is happening now, when it could have been dealt with 30 years ago. If people fall in line now, around a system they know is corrupted, the problem will be pushed out a little further, maybe fifteen years away this time, only it won’t be a party political problem by then, it will be a sphere of importance closer to their personal lives. The anger then will be greater, the noise louder, same problem, all because it was a job defered.

  19. Craig Glen Eden 19

    The message members sent to Labour MPs on Saturday with the 60% -40% leadership vote is we wont be ignored nothing has changed, in fact what we have seen from the old guard over the last few days is exactly why the members have voted like they did, members have voted to have a say.

    The way Shearer was put in charge was the catalyst for this change MPs not following the wishes of their LECs and voting for in their own perceived interest. Shearer does not have what it takes to be a leader of Labour the old guard are continuing to leak to the media and Shearer stands by and watches.

    The party wont be united until we get rid of behaviour from people like Shane Jones running off at the mouth needlessly attacking the greens ( Greens should never ever be attack by Labour and vise -versa in my view) and referring to colleagues as grubs. Chris Hipkins disgusting defamatory remarks along with Parker to name just three. The ongoing leaking to the media from the old guard is a disgrace.Sadly none of this is going to change with the current lot in charge, its time for members and people who really care about Labour and its values to stand up and show this lot what social democracy is all about.Write to your MP, lobby lets continue to take Labour back to and for grass roots.

  20. ianmac 20

    If Mr Cunliffe wins the leadership, does that mean there will be a united focussed way forward?

    • fatty 20.1

      If Mr Cunliffe wins the leadership, does that mean there will be a united focussed way forward?

      I’m not sure, could be more united, could be less.
      I think it could be less united because the ABC’s dislike Cunliffe based on his personality, that’s how I see it, some say its more policy related…this could be very difficult to overcome. (its a shame highly educated people who take up a job to serve people can act like selfish spoiled 10 year old brats well into the twilight of their working life.)
      Or, Labour could be more united if Cunliffe shows leadership qualities by bringing the groups together. The other thing that would help is that if Labour went up in the polls – that always helps bring some unity.
      That’s the problem with a Shearer led Labour…stagnated polls, factions not being brought together, no apparent leadership qualities in Shearer. I think the problem of stagnating polls and leadership qualities would improve under Cunliffe, but bringing the factions together could be difficult. Cunliffe has been pulling a few knives from his back lately, I think he has the foresight to know that sticking them straight back in the perpetrators will just cause more problems.

    • Colonial Viper 20.2

      Whoever leads after Feb (and remember, if it goes to a 40/40/20 process Feb will simply be the beginning) will need to bring all sides together as one. Helen did it, and Shearer should have done it. One problem being that the ABCs want ALL the top positions for themselves.

  21. jaymam 21

    Are there any Shearer supporters on The Standard? I want one of them to answer some of the statements above.

    e.g. What is Shearer going to do about the caucus people who have been talking to the media while Cunliffe has been banned from doing that? Are they going to be demoted?

    What’s with the phony unanimous vote for Shearer? Do they think everyone is stupid and can’t see through that?

    Shearer certainly does appear to be “bumbling, inarticulate and prone to panic and become vindictive and totalitarian when under pressure.”

    There appear to be only two ways that the Labour Party can now get back to work and get rid of Key’s government.

    1. Cunliffe could be reinstated and Hipkins demoted.
    2.Shearer could resign.

    Otherwise this will fester for months or years.

    • lprent 21.1

      There are. But most of the ones I have seen recently have merely been trolling and frequently look like they may be from the Nats.

      Member41 was one of the few who tried to put up a case.

    • Jackal 21.2

      I support David Shearer as leader of the opposition, but I’m thoroughly sick and tired of this never ending tirade of baseless speculation.

      e.g. How the fuck would I know what is going to be done about any Labour MPs leaking information to the media? But more importantly is that even true? The media could just be making up stories in order to make Labour appear divided, which seems like a much more probable explanation.

      I note that Brian Edwards hasn’t bothered to even reply to my requests for him to confirm his accusations that over a dozen Labour MPs were bullied to vote for Shearer, and then they all let Edwards know about it (important guy that Edwards). The holes in that article are so large I could drive a double decker bus through it.

      Cunliffe won’t be reinstated just yet and Shearer won’t resign… The topic will only fester if people give it attention. Personally I find it rather boring and overcooked, so until there are some noteworthy developments… adious’ amegous!

  22. bomber 22

    There is a way back from this civil war – and it requires Hipkins to be demoted and Cunliffe back on the Front Bench post the February vote

    Hipkins must be demoted before ceasefire in Labour Party can become established – http://tumeke.blogspot.co.nz/2012/11/hipkins-must-be-demoted-before.html

    • ad 22.1

      Shearer and Robertson will have the 22 bloc within 2 weeks. There will be no 40/40/20 vote in February. Or late January. Or any time. Leadership is going to be defended AT ALL COSTS. And fuck the rules, new or otherwise.

      Perhaps someone else wants to stand up and endure getting an atomic bomb dropped on them before November 2013 Annual Conference in Christchurch. Bomber are you shitting me?

      Shearer and King and Roberston and Mold have the lock on the mainstream media, and all the political gifts in the world at their disposal. And if New Lynn LEC wants to hold on to the rail it will get as electrified as Cunliffe was. Remember there is a full organsiational review on at the moment including funding, so Presland’s Mob are as good as toast for daring to raise their head.

      The operation has no rules – it’s much more like New South Wales Labour politics than we are used to. But it’s here to stay.

      • rosy 22.1.1

        “Leadership is going to be defended AT ALL COSTS. And fuck the rules, new or otherwise.”

        Ironic, really, that DC is the one accused of putting personal ambition ahead of the party.

      • Craig Glen Eden 22.1.2

        “Shearer and Robertson will have the 22 bloc within 2 weeks. There will be no 40/40/20 vote in February. Or late January. Or any time. Leadership is going to be defended AT ALL COSTS. And fuck the rules, new or otherwise.”

        I have been described as a “glass half full” kinda guy by some who know me but I wouldn’t be surprised if some Mps that previously would have supported DS are quite surprised at the deliberate over the top attack on Cunliffe for not being prepared to say he would support Shearer in the February vote or the never never.

        Surely as a Mp with any kind of future you would be looking at whats happened and be going hang on a minute this has all been planned by someone and do I really want to be part of this going forward?

        • Blue 22.1.2.1

          If any person remaining in the Labour caucus had any balls they would have refused to endorse Shearer and walked out.

          The fact that no one did shows that they’re pretty much all just focused on their own careers and won’t stick their necks out.

          • Anne 22.1.2.1.1

            The fact that no one did shows that they’re pretty much all just focused on their own careers and won’t stick their necks out.

            Not entirely Blue. I’ve been in a situation where staff were being threatened and bullied. And when you have been singled out as a special target – in this case because you supported Cunliffe – then ‘the cabal’ will be making life unpleasant and stressful for them. They dare not stick their necks out. Their heads will be chopped off and they will be made to suffer. Don’t blame them.

          • Rhinocrates 22.1.2.1.2

            Give it time to sink in. This has all been in a rush, when emotions were high.

            Cunliffe knows that now is not the time and likely they all do.

            ABC struck quickly, but here are going to be some caucus members who will notice in time that now the constitution has been changed and the party membership has much more of a say. They may be giving their obligatory loyalty oaths to Mallard and Hipkins [hoick...spit] now, but looking at where things are going, even the most self-interested might be, thinking in terms of self-interest, that maybe being associated with ABC if there is a wide vote, they don’t want to be on the losing side.

            Yes, this has been a show trial in true Stalinist fashion, but it’s been a show confession too.

            I think that the major lesson Cunliffe took was “be discrete and bide your time.” Mallard bragged on twitter about his bullying in a way that he thought was sly, but there’s been silence from the opposing camp. If Cunliffe has any nous, then knowing that he couldn’t win this battle, the smart thing he would have said to his supporters is “Keep quiet, agree to everything, smile and nod. Wait… for now.” ABC knows that too, which is why they were demanding loyalty oaths and assurances of support in February. Silence in politics is not nothing.

      • Colonial Viper 22.1.3

        And if New Lynn LEC wants to hold on to the rail it will get as electrified as Cunliffe was. Remember there is a full organsiational review on at the moment including funding, so Presland’s Mob are as good as toast for daring to raise their head.

        Small minor (almost insignificant) detail: New Lynn LEC pays a shit load of money to help fund head office, not the other way around.

        Now, Beltway Labour may want to escalate things and keep making personal threats, but they will also realise that a large scale LEC and branch LEVIES STRIKE will make their summer holidays a whole lot less fun.

  23. Anne 23

    Why do I keep chortling at that those two adorable little furry, cuddly kittens.

    We’re talking about the Labour Party. Aren’t we?

  24. Kevin Welsh 24

    So, at the LEC level how do you remove a candidate whether they be sitting or aspiring?

    Or, once in, are they there till until voted out in an election?

    • Colonial Viper 24.1

      usually sitting MPs are not challenged in the party candidate selection process pre Election year. But it can be done.

      You have to find and stand a capable (and willing haha) candidate in the selection process, gather support from within the Labour branches and the LEC of that electorate, get the affiliates on side, and start lobbying the ordinary members in that electorate.

      HOWEVER once head office understands that a serious challenge is being mounted that they don’t like, you can expect all kind of arm twisting to start to first get the unwanted candidate to withdraw, then to ensure that you lose the vote on the day.

      Mind you I only know this shit in theory, a few others here have actually done it.

      NB the sitting MP for an electorate remains MP until the elections, even if another person is chosen as the candidate.

  25. Could be the start of an even more illustrious political career for Cunliffe:

    http://nowoccupy.blogspot.com/2012/11/cunliffe-new-anderton-and-new-left.html

    • xtasy 25.1

      Monique, I do not generally agree with you, but in some way you raise some valid points.

      Labour as a party is becoming a stuffy old redundant crowd controlled by certain caucus menbers and others, who simply want a “Nat Light” version of politics. That is NOT what most prospective Labour and left voters want and need.

      We had this for the last 2 or so decades.

      Even “Aunty Helen” did not go too far off the supposed “centre” to appeal to the “middle class” that to some fair numbers consist of “professionals”, who are also increasingly struggling, but who also have an increasingly “dim” view of those even worse off.

      It is not just a NZ phenomenon, as the division of modern society is taking place in all “western” economies and societies.

      During the first decades after the last great war there was an awareness of having to keep society “cohesive”, fair, inclusive and balanced. That was given up in the late 1980s and during the 1990s.

      Your so much loved “Chicago Boys” took over and set the tone, so even supposedly “left” and “centre” parties gobbled up the propaganda, and they started dividing society in a cunning manner.

      When it started to show that this “rewarding” of the “the performers” and the “stake holders” and “value adders” was leading to social trends of increased division and wealth and income gaps, the answer was, we need to go further, to create yet more “efficiencies”.

      So it went, outsourcing went to send manufacturing and other economic activity to China and various low cost, low regulatory economies.

      All it did was make a few out-sourcers, importers and dealers very wealthy, create some jobs in sales, transport and investing, but most did not gain at all.

      So that is where we are now: Bled out economy, over-valued currency due to speculative monetary policy, exorbitant housing costs due to “investors” (refuge buyers from East Asia and else) coming to drive up prices NO locals can afford, at the same time loss of manufacturing, low paid jobs in remnant manufacturing, catering for tourists and overseas students!

      It is a DUMBED down economy, full of short term planners and thinkers, and while a Mr Cunliffe made the effort to study how smarter Danes and other Europeans learn how to do it better, he gets shafted and thrown onto the back bench. What a DUMB leader and party would do that? It only happens in a post colonial back stop called NZ Aotearoa, that suffers of the biggest brain drain for decades! Come on, you can all do better, just open your mind and switch off the brain washing MSM, who are run by certain selected commercial interests, also to prop up Mr Key and gang!

    • karol 25.2

      Interesting sentence in that blog poast:

      Labour in the ’90’s was like Roald Dahls, “The Witches”. Young, well meaning, middle-class male pollies were being stitched up by the Labour women like Mallard, King, Clark and co in their pursuit for the popular left wing vote. 

       

  26. xtasy 26

    Time for TRUE LABOUR, just one thought and suggestion for the name of a new, true Labour roots focused party!

    It is time to draw a bloody line in the sand and take a resolute stand.

    Where are the union members? Where are those that want a NZ that is united, or at least tries to follow a “united” direction and goal for ALL living in this country?

    We have debates about housing costs exploding, while the law allows any foreign investor or intending buyer to come into the market to buy. As there is wide spread insecurity in many countries, be this Asia, Europe or North America, there are those coming here with filled wallets, to simply get their “wealthy refuge homes”, while dodging taxes in their countries and only looking after number ONE!

    They are lining up at the immigration and bank counters, flashing their cash, while ordinary NZers cannot afford their own homes anymore, not even to rent in many places.

    This is a country now to cater for the rich and wealthy, and it is prostituting itself for this. Key says that is fine, as the “market” rules, and Shearer offers a housing plan, that will favour middle class professionals with a bit of cash, but will NOT stop them to on-sell for a nice gain, to then cash up and move to Australia.

    NZ is run along DUMB economics, ignorant rule, manipulative media pandering to the money interests above true workers, it is being run into the bloody ground, this place.

    Tonight, like on many nights, after 9 pm it is quiet like on a grave yard in the suburb I live in. It is a people under depression, fear and in pure basic survival mode. I just saw a rental list yesterday, where $ 1350 per week were asked for PER WEEK for a 5 brm home in Auckland.

    Where do we bloody live here?

    And Labour is wasting time in-fighting? Shearer get off your weak pride, and build a bloody team. Where are your supposed “Skills” from your UN work?

    I sadly have NO hope in YOU or Labour anymore. Move on, make room for a new party. This is the best time for a new party on the left of centre to be started! Someone get your manpower and team together, we NEED it NOW!

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    People may remember this old South Park classic. Faced with a case he cannot win, a lawyer attempts to distract the jury by introducing irrelevant material and claiming it's a defence. That's pretty much what John Key has done over...
    No Right Turn | 15-09
  • Hard News: Vision and dumbassery
    Part way through last night, the Moment of Truth event at the Auckland Town Hall felt history-making. Journalist Glenn Greenwald had presented documentary evidence -- not a lot, and it was more blasted Powerpoint slides, but easily enough to be...
    Public Address | 15-09
  • The small picture: Dotcom blows it
    For what seems like the longest time, Kim Dotcom has sworn black and blue that he has documentary evidence that categorically proves John Key a liar. John Key has repeated time and again that he had no knowledge of Dotcom...
    Occasionally erudite | 15-09
  • The Moment of Truth
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    The Jackal | 15-09
  • Key left holding the SPEARGUN
    What was by far the most important revelation to come out of the Moment of Truth was Edward Snowden's information about SPEARGUN, which was a project completed in mid 2013 to tap the Southern Cross cable. There is no doubt...
    The Jackal | 15-09
  • Arrest the NSA
    Last night's "Moment of Truth" produced only one big revelation: according to NSA leaker Edward Snowden, the NSA have two bases in New Zealand: one in Auckland and in the north. Lets be clear: if the NSA are intercepting communications...
    No Right Turn | 15-09
  • Allegations re mass surveillance by NZ’s GCSB
    Here are the articles published by Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden about mass surveillance of New Zealand citizens by spy agencies that form part of the FIVE EYES intelligence alliance. These were released in the lead up to the anyway-you-look-at-it...
    The Paepae | 15-09
  • The smoking SPEARGUN
    To me the big reveal yesterday wasn’t in the ‘Moment of Truth’ event, it was in Glen Greenwald’s column on The Intercept, and it was this excerpt from an NSA planning document: So during the huge, bitter debate about the new...
    DimPost | 15-09
  • The smoking SPEARGUN
    To me the big reveal yesterday wasn’t in the ‘Moment of Truth’ event, it was in Glen Greenwald’s column on The Intercept, and it was this excerpt from an NSA planning document: So during the huge, bitter debate about the new...
    DimPost | 15-09
  • The cost of a bowl of Weet-Bix
    One of the most dishonest arguments the right ever put forward on the subject of poverty is around one of the simplest things in life: a bowl of Weet-Bix. Yesterday Nikki Kaye approvingly re-posted a letter to the editor which...
    Boots Theory | 15-09
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: The OIA Gambit
    . . - Frank Macskasy & ‘Hercules’ What appears to be an orchestrated  Beehive plot to dig dirt for throwing at Labour leader, David Cunliffe, ahead of a crucial parliamentary debate is revealed in a paper trail linking Immigration Minister,...
    Frankly Speaking | 15-09
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: The OIA Gambit
    . . - Frank Macskasy & ‘Hercules’ What appears to be an orchestrated  Beehive plot to dig dirt for throwing at Labour leader, David Cunliffe, ahead of a crucial parliamentary debate is revealed in a paper trail linking Immigration Minister,...
    Frankly Speaking | 15-09
  • Letter to the Editor – Key makes up any old sh*t, again
    . . From a Fairfax story on 13 September, about visiting investigative journalist, Glenn Greenwald, .   . It was time to take Key to task on his lying BS… . from: Frank Macskasy <fmacskasy@gmail.com> to: Dominion Post <letters@dompost.co.nz> date:...
    Frankly Speaking | 15-09
  • Letter to the Editor – Key makes up any old sh*t, again
    . . From a Fairfax story on 13 September, about visiting investigative journalist, Glenn Greenwald, .   . It was time to take Key to task on his lying BS… . from: Frank Macskasy <fmacskasy@gmail.com> to: Dominion Post <letters@dompost.co.nz> date:...
    Frankly Speaking | 15-09
  • The costs and trade-offs of free public transport in Auckland
    One perennial discussion in transport circles is whether we shouldn’t just do away with public transport fares completely and make the whole network free of charge. Why not fully subsidise the network as a public service using public monies as...
    Transport Blog | 15-09
  • OnPoint: “Project SPEARGUN underway”
    Let's get this out of the way: The Warner Bros email was a complete clusterfuck. Faced with claims that the emails were fake, TeamDotcom did a TeamKey - they got Hone to send it off to the Privileges Committee then...
    Public Address | 15-09
  • Beef + Lamb NZ Outlines Priorities Ahead of Election
    Press Release – Beef And Lamb NZ Beef + Lamb New Zealand has outlined what it sees as the policy priorities for the incoming government.16 SEPTEMBER 2014 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Beef + Lamb New Zealand Outlines Priorities Ahead of General...
    Its our future | 15-09
  • Spies, education, finances, a star and a forecast
    John Key pulled the election date forward. He said it was to avoid clashes with likely global leaders’ visits after the G20 meeting in Australia in November. But clouds were looming too. One was John Banks’ conviction, widely expected. By...
    Colin James | 15-09
  • Gordon Campbell on the aftermath of the Greenwald/Snowden revelations
    The credibility issues have come down to two main ones: 1 The email. This has to do with whether Key knowingly agreed to use our immigration rules as a tool to ensnare and ultimately extradite Kim Dotcom, and do so...
    Gordon Campbell | 15-09
  • This government should (but probably won’t) be over
    The revelations last night (and leaked during the day) SHOULD end this government. In brief: 1) Even if Key is telling the truth (which is pretty far-fetched and increasingly unlikely given Snowden’s evidence), they still got a plan underway for illegal...
    Cut your hair | 15-09
  • Mass surveillance and sexual violence: Assange and Snowden
    Article – Fightback Mass surveillance and sexual violence: The difference between Snowden and Assange by Fightback Admin 16 September 2014Mass surveillance and sexual violence: The difference between Snowden and Assange by Fightback Admin 16 September 2014 Chelsea Manning and Edward...
    Its our future | 15-09
  • The Moment of Truth #2 – Humpty Dumpty words
    Words matter, never so much in New Zealand politics as they do right now. Remember Humpty Dumpty in Through the Looking Glass?'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose...
    Pundit | 15-09
  • The Moment of Truth #1
    Sitting in the Auckland Town Hall tonight – both in the hall meeting and the press conference after – two old sayings kept passing through my mind: "it's all about the timing" and "the devil's in the details". Both truisms...
    Pundit | 15-09
  • The meaning of John Key (reprise)
    I wrote the following essay on John Key and the politics of amnesia three years ago, in the lead-up to the last election. In preparation for writing it, I attempted to read, watch or listen to every one of Key’s...
    Bat bean beam | 15-09
  • But what is truth – if you follow me?
    There were some major revelations in the Internet Party’s ‘Moment of Truth’ event tonight, mostly from Glen Greenwald and Edward Snowden. But what there wasn’t was any reference to Kim Dotcom’s bombshell ‘proving’ that the Prime Minister had lied about...
    DimPost | 15-09
  • But what is truth – if you follow me?
    There were some major revelations in the Internet Party’s ‘Moment of Truth’ event tonight, mostly from Glen Greenwald and Edward Snowden. But what there wasn’t was any reference to Kim Dotcom’s bombshell ‘proving’ that the Prime Minister had lied about...
    DimPost | 15-09
  • The Māori seats
    One of the pecularities of MMP is that because of the proportional representation provided by the party vote, there is virtually no electoral benefit to winning electorate seats (there are other political benefits, which I’ve touched on previously). So even...
    Progress report | 15-09
  • The 97% v the 3% – just how much global warming are humans causing?
    A pair of climate scientists recently had a dispute regarding how much global warming humans are responsible for. Gavin Schmidt from Nasa represented the consensus of 96–97% of climate experts in arguing that humans have been the dominant cause of...
    Skeptical Science | 15-09
  • The other option for the left
    While everyone was rightly paying attention to the Key / Dotcom / GCSB revelations today, Winston Peters made a modest proposal: another Labour-NZ First coalition:New Zealand First leader Winston Peters said today that voters should consider a Labour-New Zealand First...
    No Right Turn | 15-09
  • Winegums make for better polling – Harawira
    I wanted to laugh when I saw the Native Affairs poll the other night (Hone Harawira 38%, Kelvin Davis 37%) because it was almost the same as the one they did back in 2011”, said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau...
    Mana | 16-09
  • The Leadership of MTS Lied – Harawira
    “Normally I’m happy to tell people that I was right but when I received the news about the staff cuts at Maori Television, I had nothing but sympathy for the three Maori media leaders who are going to be made...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Privileges Complaint Laid against Prime Minister – Harawira
    MANA Movement Leader and Te Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira has today lodged a Privileges Complaint with the Speaker regarding the Prime Ministers denials in parliament that he knew anything about Kim Dotcom before 2012. “Information made public today appears...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Sharples’ new appointments are out of order
    The new appointments to the Waitangi Tribunal announced by Dr Pita Sharples this morning are completely out of order given the election is just five days away, says Labour's State Services spokesperson, Maryan Street. “This Government continues to show disdain...
    Labour | 15-09
  • MANA Movement Housing Policy
    “When families are living in cars, garages, cockroach-infested caravans and three families to a house then we have a housing crisis”, said MANA leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira. “When you have a housing crisis for low-income...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Bigger than the Foreshore and Seabed – Sykes
    “Over the past week I have received some disturbing information that has led myself and a number of Maori lawyers to conclude that this National - Maori Party - ACT and United Future Government are going to put an end to both...
    Mana | 14-09
  • MANA wants Te Reo Māori petition fulfilled
    Hone Harawira, MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Annette Sykes, MANA candidate for Waiariki Te Hāmua Nikora, MANA candidate for Ikaroa Rāwhiti  “More than four decades have passed and the petition calling for Te Reo Māori in schools...
    Mana | 14-09
  • Primary focus on the critical issues
    A Labour Government will prioritise New Zealand’s agricultural sectors by recreating a Rural Affairs Minister and appointing a Primary Industry Council and a Chief Agricultural Adviser. Releasing Labour’s Primary Sector and Rural Affairs policies today, spokesperson Damien O’Connor says the...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Maori Television fears confirmed – Harawira
    ...
    Mana | 12-09
  • More ghost houses from National
    The Government’s desperate pre-election announcement of more ghost houses won’t fool Aucklanders wanting action on the housing crisis, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “These are ghost houses, to go with National’s ghost tax cut. Families cannot live in ghost...
    Labour | 12-09
  • National bows to union pressure over travel time
    National has reluctantly bowed to pressure from unions and adopted Labour’s fair and sensible policy to pay home support workers for the time they spend traveling between clients, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. “This decision is long overdue...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Predators on Poverty – Harawira
    “As poverty has ballooned out of control, the Predators on Poverty have emerged to suck the lifeblood from whole families and communities” said MANA Movement leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira. “They are deliberately targeting low-income areas, particularly those...
    Mana | 11-09
  • MANA Movement Policy Launch
    Predators on Poverty (pokie machines, alcohol outlets and loan sharks) 1pm, Thursday 11th September Corner Great South Road and Criterion Street Otahuhu Shopping Centre...
    Mana | 10-09
  • Eliminating Poverty – Sir Edmund Hillary Collegiate, Otara | Internet MAN...
    A campaign to Eliminate Poverty, Feed the Kids, build more houses, and create thousands of new jobs, was outlined by Internet MANA at a public meeting in Otara this evening. When MANA and the Internet Party first sat down to...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Housing in Waiariki – Sykes
    Fact:  Under this National-Maori Party-ACT-United Future Government 61% of Maori in Waiariki do not own their own home and nearly 70% of Maori rentals in Waiariki pay $200 or more per week. “Maori in Waiariki have low rates of home ownership...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Charter school crisis shows time to axe costly experiment
    Dysfunction from day one at a Northland charter school shows it is time to dump this costly and failed experiment by the National-ACT Government, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Te Kura Hourua ki Whangaruru received $27,000 in government funding...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Labour will crack down on loan sharks
    A Labour Government will crack down on predatory loan sharks by making it illegal both to charge exorbitant interest rates and to exploit uninformed borrowers, Labour’s Consumer Affairs Spokesperson Carol Beaumont says. Labour today released its Consumer Affairs policy which...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Let’s do the FEED before the weed
    “Last week I put out a very strongly worded email to my colleagues about an online promotion about cannabis law reform” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira “and I stand by that criticism today.” My concern was...
    Mana | 08-09
  • TE KAEA and NATIVE AFFAIRS live to fight another day
    “I understand that both the chair of the Board of Maori Television, Georgina Te Heuheu, and new CEO, Paora Maxwell, are now saying that my comments this morning about their plans to cut Te Kaea and Native Affairs, were wrong, and that...
    Mana | 08-09
  • How come the PM only pays 2.8% of his income in tax – Harawira
    “Before John Key talks about the piddling tax cuts he plans for low and middle income families today he needs to explain why he only pays 2.8% of his income on tax while a minimum wage worker pays 28% tax,”...
    Mana | 07-09
  • THE DEATH OF INDEPENDENCE FOR MAORI TV
    “If what I’m hearing is true, tomorrow Maori Television Service (MTS) will dump its news programme, Te Kaea, and staff will lose their jobs” said MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira “and the Minister of Maori...
    Mana | 07-09
  • Labour recommits to Pike River families
    An incoming Labour-led government will do everything possible to recover the bodies of the Pike River Miners and return them to their families, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “This tragedy and its aftermath has left the families of the 29...
    Labour | 06-09
  • Voting has started and still no tax plan or fiscal budget for voters to see
    "Even though voting for the election has already begun, National still refuses to provide any details of its proposed tax cuts. And Bill English admitted this morning that he won’t provide any specifics until after the election", Labour’s Finance spokesperson...
    Labour | 06-09
  • National’s partners’ tax plans cost at least $42 billion
    If National forms the next government its partners’ tax plans will cost the country at least $42 billion, and maybe as much as $50 billion, wreaking havoc with the books, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “National claims to be...
    Labour | 05-09
  • Labour: Providing more opportunities for young Kiwis
    A Labour Government will ensure every young Kiwi under the age of 20 is given the opportunity to be in work, education or training, and plans to develop a conservation apprenticeship scheme to help do that, Labour’s Youth Affairs spokesperson...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Candles out on teachers’ slice of birthday cake
    Today may be Novopay’s second birthday, but there’s little to celebrate, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Novopay has cost the taxpayer tens of millions of dollars already, and the cost is still climbing....
    Labour | 04-09
  • National’s blatant broadband pork barrelling misses the mark by a country...
    National’s blatant pork-barrelling ICT announcement today should reinforce a growing sceptical electorate’s view that they are all about the gift wrap and not the present, Labour’s ICT spokesperson Clare Curran says. “Instead of addressing the real issues - the woeful...
    Labour | 04-09
  • More evidence of the need to clean up the system
    The latest release of emails and messages between disgraced Minister Judith Collins and blogger Cameron Slater are more evidence of the urgent need to clean up politics, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. "This new evidence confirms a near constant flow...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Labour commits to stable funding for voluntary sector
    A Labour Government will establish long-term funding and streamline contract accountability for community and voluntary groups, says Labour’s spokesperson for the sector Louisa Wall. Announcing Labour’s policy for the community and voluntary sector, she said this would give much greater...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Better trained and skilled workforce under Labour
    Labour is committed to a skilled workforce that benefits businesses as well as their workers, and will increase workplace training to improve productivity and drive innovation, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes the Government should support New Zealanders into...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will make renting a better option
    Labour will provide greater security of tenure for renters, and build more state and social housing, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour believes every kid deserves a decent start in life. That means a warm, dry and secure home....
    Labour | 03-09
  • At least 15 new taxes under National
    John Key is the last person to talk about creating taxes, presiding over a Government that has imposed at least 15 new taxes, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “John Key tried a novel line in the debate last night claiming...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will strengthen New Zealand’s democracy
    A Labour Government will act quickly to protect and enhance New Zealand’s reputation as one of the most open and least corrupt countries in the world, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The health of any democracy is improved by greater...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement says tax cut on GST must be first priority – Minto
    “If Prime Minister John Key has money available for tax cuts then cutting GST must be the first priority”,  said MANA Movement Economic Justice Spokesperson John Minto. GST is a nasty tax on low-income families”, said Minto. “People in the...
    Mana | 02-09
  • The Maori Party’s Mana-Enhancing Relationship with National – Minto
    “First we had Cameron Slater and David Farrar backing Labour’s Kelvin Davis bid to unseat MANA Movement Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Hone Harawira.  Now we have Slater writing a pro-Te Ururoa Flavell article on his website, Whale...
    Mana | 02-09
  • There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Mana | 02-09
  • Local communities critical to Civil Defence
    Labour will focus on empowering New Zealand communities to be resilient in Civil Defence disasters, says Labour’s Civil Defence spokesperson Clare Curran. Announcing Labour’s Civil Defence policy, she says that Labour will work with schools, voluntary agencies and community groups...
    Labour | 02-09
  • Labour looks to long-life passports, gambling harm review
    A return to 10 year passports and a review of gambling laws are highlights of Labour’s Internal Affairs policy released today. “More than 15,000 New Zealanders signed a petition calling on the Government to revert to the 10 year system...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the vast majority...
    Mana | 01-09
  • Rebuilding the New Zealand Defence Force
    A Labour Government will make it a priority to rebuild the capacity of the Defence Force to carry out the tasks expected of it, says Labour’s Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff. Releasing Labour’s Defence Policy today he said the NZDF has...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Speech to Canterbury Chamber of Commerce
    Today I'm going to talk about our policy package to upgrade and grow our economy and how we turn that growth into a foundation for a decent and fair society. But first I want to address the issue of our...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Commission of Inquiry must have bipartisan support
    The Labour Party is drafting terms of reference for a Commission of Inquiry, Labour’s Shadow Attorney-General David Parker says. “It is abundantly clear there is a need for an independent Commission of Inquiry, chaired by a High Court Judge, into...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Rapid Transit to unclog Christchurch
    Labour will build a 21st century Rapid Transit system for Christchurch, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The long delayed recovery of Christchurch hinges on a modern commuter system for the city. “We will invest $100 million in a modern rail plan...
    Labour | 31-08
  • Labour’s commitment to public broadcasting
    A Labour Government will set up a working group to re-establish a public service television station as part of our commitment to ensuring New Zealand has high quality free-to-air local content. “We will set up a working group to report...
    Labour | 31-08
  • A new deal for the conservation estate
    The health of our economy depends on New Zealand preserving and restoring our land, air, water and indigenous wildlife, says Labour’s Conservation spokesperson Ruth Dyson. Announcing Labours Conservation policy, she said that there will be a comprehensive plan to restore...
    Labour | 31-08
  • Labour’s plan to end homelessness
    Labour has a comprehensive approach to end homelessness starting with the provision of emergency housing for 1000 people each year and putting an end to slum conditions in boarding houses, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes that homelessness is not...
    Labour | 30-08
  • Labour: A smarter approach to justice
    A Labour Government will improve the justice system to ensure it achieves real public safety, provides equal access to justice and protects human rights, Labour’s Justice spokesperson Andrew Little says. “Our approach is about tackling the root causes of crime, recognising...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Labour to foster Kiwi love of sport and the great outdoors
    A Labour Government will promote physical activity, back our top athletes and help foster Kiwis’ love of the great outdoors by upgrading tramping and camping facilities. Trevor Mallard today released Labour’s sports and recreation policy which will bring back a...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Pacific languages recognised under Labour
    Labour will act to recognise the five main Pacific languages in New Zealand including through the education system, said Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. Announcing Labour’s Pacific Island policy he said that there must be a strong commitment to...
    Labour | 29-08
  • No healthy economy without a healthy environment
    Labour recognises that we cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy environment, says Environment spokesperson Moana Mackey announcing Labour’s environment policy. “New Zealand’s economy has been built on the back of the enormous environmental wealth we collectively enjoy as...
    Labour | 28-08
  • She saw John Key on TV and decided to vote!
    . . NZ, Wellington, 15 September – ‘Tina’* is 50, a close friend,  and one of the “Missing Million” from the last election. In fact, ‘Tina’ has never voted in her life.  Not once. In ‘Tina’s’ own words, politics has...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Eminem sues National Party for unlawful use of ‘Lose yourself’ bhahahah...
    …ahahahahahahahaha. Oh Christ this is hilarious… National Party sued over Eminem copyright infringment US rapper Eminem is suing the National Party for allegedly breaching copyright by using his song Lose Yourself in its campaign advertisements. The Detroit-based publishers of Eminem’s...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Are the Greens about to be snookered by a Labour-NZ First Government?
    I wrote last week that it was smart politics that the Greens pointed out they could work with National, the soft blue vote that’s looking for a home in the wake of Dirty Politics isn’t going to Labour, so the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • BLOGWATCH: Fonterra join 2Degrees and boycott Whaleoil
    In the wake of Dirty Politics, advertisers are pulling their advertising out of Whaleoil. PaknSave, Evo Cycles Pukekohe, Localist, 2 Degrees, Fertility Associates, iSentia, NZ Breast Cancer Foundation, Maori TV, Bookme.co.nz, Dobetter.co.nz and the Sound are now joined by Fonterra...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • PM Key accused of allowing secret ‘spook’ cable sensors to spy on citiz...
    Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald (left) and Kim Dotcom at the “moment of truth” political surveillance meeting in Auckland last night. Image: PMW By ANNA MAJAVU of Pacific Media Watch NEW ZEALAND Prime Minister John Key has been accused of...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Fiji pre-election ‘politics’ blackout stirs media protests, frustration
    BLACKOUT DAY – Monday, day one of the “silence window” in Fiji leading up to the close of polling in the general election at 6pm on Wednesday. And this is under the draconian threat of a $10,000 fine or five...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • “Now the work of movements begins”: government corruption, media bias, ...
    I am so tired of the dirty politics of the National government, aren’t you? I am tired of John Key and his pathetic attacks on award-winning journalists who have spent their careers fighting and digging for truth and good. The...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Moment of Truth review, smoking guns and the awful coverage by the NZ msm
      There were queues unlike any the Town Hall has seen, 1000 were turned away once it became full…     …full to the rafters. The energy and atmosphere within the room was extraordinary, and it begun…   …Glenn Greenwald...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Why Maori TV’s Te Tai Tokeraou Poll will be proved wrong
    If Hone Harawira had a dollar every time the media wrote off his chance of winning Te Tai Tokeraou, he would have more money than Kim Dotcom. Remember the by-election? Hone was 1 point ahead of Kelvin in an exact...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • September 15 RNZ interviews – and then the Moment of Truth
    . Acknowledgement: Emmerson . 15 September – Leading up to the Moment of Truth public meeting this evening, these Radio NZ interviews are worth listening to; . Alt link . Alt link . Alt link . Alt link . Alt...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Live Stream: Moment of Truth Tonight 7pm
    Live Video Stream by eCast: The Daily Blog will Live Stream the Moment of Trust public meeting from 7pm. The meeting will feature Glenn Greenwald, Kim Dotcom, Robert Amsterdam, and a very special guest…...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • The proof Key lied about GCSB mass surveillance
    And we start getting to the evidence that proves Key has lied about mass surveillance. The article by Glenn Greenwald is out and it is beyond damning… Documents provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden show that the government worked in...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • A brief word on the Ede-Slater emails
    Every day I have rushed to read the paper to see if a breaking story on the Ede-Slater emails had broken yet. They haven’t. Day after day, where are these emails? We know Rawshark sent the emails to David Fisher...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • The email that proves Key is a liar
    This is the Email proving Key knew about Kim Dotcom before he claims he did… “We had a really good meeting with the Prime Minister. He’s a fan and we’re getting what we came for. Your groundwork in New Zealand...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Henchmen
    Henchmen...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Why it simply isn’t credible that Key stepped in and shut down the mass s...
    Key’s staggering admission that yes there was a year long business model by the GCSB to mass spy on all of NZ but  that he stepped in and shut it down after Cabinet had signed it off just sounds like make...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • John Key’s love affair with a straw man
    Politicians like putting up straw men for the purpose of self-righteously knocking them over. Prime Minister John Key has a particular straw man he loves to punch over. He raises it whenever he’s asked about mass surveillance of New Zealanders...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • John Armstrong turns on Glenn Greenwald
    Where does a mediocre journalist like John Armstrong get off attacking a journalist with the credibility of Glenn Greenwald as he has in his ridiculous column today? Armstrong has the audacity to try and play the terrorism card to justify why...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Denis Tegg – Which of John Key’s many statements on the GC...
    We already have Glenn Greenwald’s assertion on The Nation that John Key has misled New Zealanders as to whether the GCSB has engaged in mass surveillance of Kiwis. But Key has made many other statements about the GCSB’s powers and...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Election 2014: Numbers and Faces
    Democratic politics is a game of numbers and faces. How can we translate the numbers into the 120 or more faces that will be in the next Parliament? Below is my prediction of a likely result: 120 people, divided by...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Scotland the brave
    The possibility that Scotland will vote for independence this Thursday has panicked the British establishment. An unholy alliance of Tory, Labour, Liberal and corporate leaders has resorted to fear-mongering and bullying on grand scale in a last ditch effort to...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Why Key’s denials sound so off and why Dotcom’s fight is all our fight
    The shrillness of Key is the issue. His denials just too forced and rehearsed. Key has gone from Hollow Man to Shallow Man with his lashing out at Pulitzer Price winning Journalist Glenn Greenwald by calling him a ‘henchman’. This...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Letters to the Editor – Spies, Lies, Five Eyes, and other matters on a S...
    . . Sharing a few thoughts and observations with newspaper editors around the country… . from: Frank Macskasy <fmacskasy@gmail.com>to: Sunday Star Times <letters@star-times.co.nz>date: Sun, Sep 14, 2014 subject: Letter to the Editor . The Editor Sunday Star Times . Our...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Letters to the Editor – Spies, Lies, Five Eyes, and other matters on a Su...
    . . Sharing a few thoughts and observations with newspaper editors around the country… . from: Frank Macskasy <fmacskasy@gmail.com>to: Sunday Star Times <letters@star-times.co.nz>date: Sun, Sep 14, 2014 subject: Letter to the Editor . The Editor Sunday Star Times . Our...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • As TDB predicted, Labour to use universal super fund to buy back assets and...
    Greens about to be snookered again?   As The Daily Blog has pointed out several times now, Labour will use a universal super fund to buy back NZs assets in a bid to offer Winston a legacy project… Labour plans...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • A lesson in caring for our most vulnerable
    Some of the comments on this article make me sick. Because I am so very much over people who think they are better than others because things have gone their way in life and think those who aren’t as functional...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Please vote positive
    One of the features of campaigning is the meet-the-candidates event.  As an opportunity to present policies to the voter, they aren’t the best vehicle but still serve a useful purpose.  The problem is that there are too many candidates and...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • For this who don’t vote this election
    For this who don’t vote this election...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • Where does Key get off abusing a Pulitzer prize winning Journalist like Gle...
    We are seeing the Dirty Politics PM today when Key decided the best way to counter the Glenn Greenwald claims of GCSB mass surveillance was to denigrate Greenwald… Prime Minister John Key says he will prove Glenn Greenwald’s claims by the...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • Teflon Man No More
    . .   On 26 August, as Nicky Hager’s expose on New Zealand’s right wing politics hit public consciousness and confirmed our worst fears, I wrote, “Dirty Politics” has achieved more than simply revealing  unwholesome machinations between National party apparatchiks,...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • Dear mainstream media – regarding Key’s promise to resign if GCSB expos...
    Dear Mainstream media. How’s it all going? I would like to acknowledge the deep depression many members of the Press Gallery are going through as their boy Key looks less and less likely to win. I appreciate how a loss...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • It’s official: ACT’s Jamie Whyte is several-sandwiches-and-a-salad sho...
    .   . There aren’t very many times I agree wholeheartedly with our Dear Leader – but on this occassion I believe he spoke for those 99% of New Zealanders for whom common sense is as natural as breathing air....
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • ‘I’ll not be intimidated … by cowards’, says Fiji death threat jour...
    Fiji Sun’s Jyoti Pratibha … death threats via fake Facebook profiles. Image: Pacific Scoop THE PARIS-based media freedom advocacy organisation Reporters Sans Frontières and the Pacific Media Centre have condemned threats and intimidation against political reporters this week covering Fiji’s...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Glenn Greenwald on TV3s ‘The Nation’ – Everyone remember when Key pro...
    Glenn Greenwald has just given his first NZ interview on TV3s ‘The Nation’ and what he had to say was incredibly damaging. Glenn is here for Kim Dotcom’s Moment of Truth on Monday and what he has just had to...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • What will soft National vote do, why Colin Craig will be a focus in final w...
    In what has been the most unpredictable elections of our time, the final week promises more shocks and bombshells than World War One trench warfare. We have the media who still have the Rawshark emails that detail the Ede-Slater exchanges....
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Would a National-Conservative Party reduce rights to an abortion? Legalise ...
    With the possibility of a Conservative-National Party coalition looming, let’s consider the impact of this new hard right religious Government on social policy. We know Conservative Party candidate Edward Saafi, believes the inability to legally bash your kids is responsible for teenage prostitution, teenage pregnancy and...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • ACTs solution to crime – more guns?
    How insane are the ACT Party? Honestly? Their solution to crime is to arm every shop keeper with a sawn off shotgun??? “Criminals are well aware that shopkeepers are defenceless and are taking advantage of this in brutal robberies. What...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • John Key’s gift to teenage girls…
    Yesterday I was at the MANA Movement policy release on “Predators on Poverty” in the Otahuhu Shopping Centre. Successive Labour and National governments have left vulnerable communities on their own to face these merciless thieves who prey on the poor...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Poverty denial – Where does National get its advice from?
    National is displaying a quite inadequate understanding of their own policies and worrying inability to respond to criticism. When John Key trots out his old, tired example of how ‘work pays’ on Morning Report this week to justify leaving 260,000...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Education reformers mean well, so what’s the problem?
    The thing about education reformers is that, mostly, they mean well. Whether it’s charter schools, National Standards, Teach First, or another reform, many people involved have good intentions.  They want to improve things, try something new and innovate, they say. The thing...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • My brain hurts
    My brain hurts.  This election year has been a really long nine months.  The lies, the headlines, the spin, the policy, the chat, I am literally overloaded with information.  At times it’s been exhausting trying to keep up.  However I...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Slater loses Blomfield defamation case – has to pays costs & must dis...
    Great victory for Journalism today. The Defamation case Matt Blomfield took against Slater has jumped its first hurdle, Slater has been told he might be a ‘Journalist’, but he has no right to journalistic protection of his sources because there was no...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Seeing an Economic Vision
    It has been some time since my last post to TDB. I was fortunate to recently come back to NZ briefly for a bit of a break from my work in Pakistan. While my visit was super short, I took...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • 5 reasons why anyone identifying as Left with a capital L should party vote...
    There are 5 reasons why anyone identifying as Left with a capital L should consider casting their party vote for Internet MANA this election. 1 – Feed the Kids: There is no excuses now that National have flirted with the idea...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • What I want from a change of government
    The prospects for a change of government look a little brighter so I though I’d look at what we can expect. The only option being provided by Labour, the main opposition party, is for a Labour, Green, NZ First coalition....
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • Why is the “Progressive” Coalition so Regressive?
    Have you ever, when parallel parking, got yourself wedged into the curb? The car in front is centimetres away and your rear wheel is touching the curb at an angle. This is a metaphor for the state of economic policy-making...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • Of course the Greens could work with National
    A warm soy latte with John Key?   Sharp in take of breath moment as TVNZ last night reported Greens could work with National post the election if National win. It’s a smart move. The Greens are so viciously anti-tribal...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Quality of Journalism
    “Skilled journos getting unwarranted shit from hack bloggers & online warriors could earn big $ in PR/marketing, so thank you for what you do”. As this tweet rolled across my screen this morning the irony had me rolling my eyes. Why on...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – #BlueGreen2014 – Or: The Media Jetskiis O...
    During Thursday’s iteration of One News, I was virtually shocked off my seat to hear a reasonably well-known political pundit slash nominal “journalist” prognosticating about the likelihood of the Green Party “switching gear” on its electoral strategy … and deciding...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Michael Wood – Winning on the Economy
    One of the great tricks of the right over the past twenty years has been to desiccate debate about our economy. ‘The economy’ is spoken about as if it is an independent entity, divorced from the realm of democratic politics...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • Conservatives Break through 5% Threshold
    Reports in today’s Dominion Post that the Conservative Party is polling at 6% in Nationals internal polling are not surprising says the Conservative Napier candidate Garth McVicar....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Hundreds of Students Turn Out for Political Debate
    With only a few days left before the general election, over 500 Victoria students packed the central Hub space on campus today to listen to a political debate on student issues organised by the Students’ Association. Victoria University of Wellington...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Ex-prisoners make most of mentoring to make most of life
    It’s not every day that an organisation triples a programme in size, but PARS Inc (formerly known as the Prisoners’ Aid and Rehabilitation Society of the Auckland District Inc) has managed to do just that with their Community Mentoring Scheme,...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Unscrupulous worker highlights why 90-days works
    Federated Farmers believes the experience of a husband and wife farming team in Taranaki underscores why the 90-days provision is so important to small businesses. “Yesterday a member called 0800 FARMING to alert us to a guy doing the rounds...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Eye to Eye Uploaded
    Leading Maori broadcaster and political commentator Willie Jackson previews Eye to Eye Uploaded, a multi-platform series of interviews that he’s aiming to put in front of media radars next year....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Party Rankings against Inequality
    Revealed: which party will do the most to reduce New Zealand’s growing inequality crisis...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Maritime Union backs change of Government
    The Maritime Union says a change of Government is required to deliver secure jobs and decent wages for New Zealand workers....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Green Party package for newborns welcomed
    16 September 2014 Media Release The New Zealand College of Midwives has welcomed a policy announced today by the Green Party which would provide a package of essential items for every newborn baby. The College is a non partisan organisation...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • ALCP Release Election Manifesto
    The Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party has released its manifesto in the lead up to the election on Saturday....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Election Daily Update #9
    John Key’s National Party appears to have received a major boost from last night’s “Moment of Truth” event, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. Despite no major changes...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Eminem Publishers Sue New Zealand National Party
    Detroit-based music publishing companies sue National Party for damages for unauthorised use of song in election campaign advertising...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Parties Back Rethink of WINZ Shared Care Parenting Laws
    Overwhelming Majority of Parties Back Rethink of WINZ Shared Care Parenting Laws. Press release- Fifty Fifty Campaign, 16 September 2014 National is the only political party willing to defend the way WINZ treats separated parents who share their kids...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Parents Smacking Down Prime Minister
    "John Keys failure to deliver on his promise to change the anti-smacking law is costing National votes, and helping the Conservative Party," says Colin Craig....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Political Debate on Family Violence – Video & Audio
    The Dunedin Collaboration Against Family Violence was happy to host a political debate on Family Violence chaired by Professor Nicola Atwool of the University of Otago. Family Violence is a huge problem in our community and we invited representatives...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Greens Take Nanny State To A New Level
    Family First NZ is labelling the Green’s ‘welcome package’ for newborns policy as wasteful and misdirected. “This policy is taking ‘nanny state’ to a new level but indicates just how much the Greens want to intervene in family life,”...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • 2,100 people send message about dirty politics
    2,100 people have signed their name to a full-page open letter featuring in the New Zealand Herald this Wednesday. The letter is designed to send a message to politicians that dirty politics is an important election issue....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Are DoC manipulating Rat Numbers?
    Ban 1080 Political Party co-leader Bill Wallace says there are serious rumours DoC has changed their rat counting technique to cover up the lack of the mythical “Rat Plague” claimed by the Department in Kahurangi National Park, and also that...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Average Full time Student Is in Financial Distress
    A new survey has found that nearly half of all full time students are in significant financial distress....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Key and Cunliffe, research revealed by Ancestry.com.au
    Contrasting family histories of John Key and David Cunliffe, revealed by research from Ancestry.com.au....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Revelations a Damning Indictment of Key’s Honesty
    The Prime Minister’s honesty is now central to the election, says Internet Party Leader Laila Harré, following the revelations of whistleblower Edward Snowden that there is mass surveillance of New Zealand citizens by the GCSB....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Organisations Have ‘Duty of Care’ for Players says Law Firm
    Concussion injuries in amateur and professional sporting arenas are currently highly topical. Concussion potentially appears to have been implicit in the recent death of a young player in Northland....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Media Release from Closing the Gap on Health and Housing
    “Inequality is the biggest problem facing New Zealand at the present time” says Peter Malcolm National Secretary of Closing the Gap. It underlies many of our social ills, poverty, lack of trust, an economy that could do much better, and...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Expanding Whānau Ora – a bottom line for Māori Party
    Leaving the best to last, the Māori Party has launched its Whānau Ora policy today following a fun family event at Te Ore Ore Marae in Masterton last night. “When we change what happens in our homes, we change what...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Colin Craig’s Incredible Claims Continue
    Hot on the heels of a Conservative Party candidate proposing to double the price of a bottle of wine, Colin Craig has come up with an even more fantastic idea to buttress his uncosted tax policy....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • The Letter: Jamie Whyte is going to Parliament
    Friday night’s TVNZ Colmar Brunton poll puts Jamie Whyte in Parliament. TVNZ rounded down the poll result (ACT was on 1.2%). With the high wasted Conservative vote, just 1.2% makes Jamie an MP. It is ACT, not NZ First that...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Why are we letting Dotcom steal our election?
    Why are we letting a convicted German fraudster and his American polemicists steal our election?...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • ACT’s five point plan
    ACT has a five point plan to grow the economy by a third. To lift economic growth from the Treasury's long term forecast of just two percent to three....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Christchurch rebuild cost sharing plan must be improved
    “The agreement between the government and the Christchurch City Council about sharing costs of the rebuild is due to be revised in December, as some costs are more accurately known now than they were originally,“ says Warren Voight, Local...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • ‘Key vs. Cunliffe’ Final Live NZ Election Reactor
    ohn Key and David Cunliffe go head to head for the final time on TV One on Wednesday as Election Day looms. Roy Morgan wants to know what you think about their performance as the leaders try one last time...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Chamber welcomes Business Growth Agenda priorities
    Wellington Employers’ Chamber of Commerce welcomes the National Government’s 10 highest priorities for its Business Growth Agenda as essential to continuing strong business performance and economic growth....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • #SafeSource NZ – A secure way to share the truth
    Dirty politics and a dirty environment go hand in hand. Our country’s future as a fairer, cleaner, more prosperous place is being threatened by backroom deals, corporate cronyism and a lack of transparency....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Last vid to encourage youth vote
    Here's the third and final in our series to boost the youth vote. It's called CINDER and it's a play on the popular dating app....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Fee hikes restrict student choices
    A survey of 5000 students from across the tertiary sector shows that tuition fees have increased at the maximum level permitted. Fees are constraining students’ choices more than ever before. Although tuition fees are only permitted to increase...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • ACT’s five point plan to grow the economy
    ACT has a five point plan to double the rate of economic growth. The Treasury long term forecast for growth is 2% a year. We can lift it to 4%....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • iPredict Daily Election Update
    National’s forecast party vote has risen to 45.3% over the last day, at the expense of Labour and the Greens, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. A National/Act/UnitedFuture/Maori...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • National’s economic strategy attack workers’ rights
    The National Party’s ‘Workplaces’ policy confirms that their economic growth strategy relies on attacks on workers rights, according to FIRST Union....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Questions Raised Over Cow Deaths
    The death of 200 cows after eating a new variety of PGG Wrightsons HT swedes [1] is a disaster for New Zealand farmers....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Final decision on Ruakura Development Plan Change
    The independent Board of Inquiry considering the Ruakura Development Plan Change has released its final report and decision. The Board has approved the plan change request but with amendments....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Confirmed – Smacking Law Needs Correction
    Family First NZ says that the ONE News Vote Compass survey showing only 23% support the anti-smacking law is no surprise, and confirms that it’s time the politicians listened to New Zealand families....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Kiwi voters urged to heed warnings
    Kiwi voters would do well to note the advice given this week to Queensland people by retired judge and renowned corruption fighter Tony Fitzgerald, according to Democrats for Social Credit health spokesman David Tranter....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Fisheries policy analysis produces surprising results
    Nine political party policies were analysed to determine which party had the most public friendly fisheries policy and the results surprised LegaSea, an apolitical fisheries lobby group. “For the first time, recreational fishers have been offered...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • $3m to help keep Hutt families healthy
    National Party candidate for Hutt South, Chris Bishop, welcomes news Hutt City Council has been selected to lead a $3 million anti-obesity initiative in Lower Hutt which will help families improve their health. “Healthy Families NZ is National’s new...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Community organisations struggling
    The survey, conducted by community sector network ComVoices, highlights the high level of frustration and urgency being felt by those who deliver services, says group Chairperson, Peter Glensor. 311 organisations completed the survey....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • NZ 2014 Election Index – 6-11 September
    Below is iSentia’s weekly Election Index for the period 6 to 11 September, showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. We will publish...
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • Workers despair at Nationals lack of fairness
    “Nationals Workplaces policy, released today, fails to articulate any vison about how life for working New Zealanders can be improved.” CTU President Helen Kelly said. “Again if this policy focusses on removing work rights, its own documents...
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • National tries to dodge the discussion on workers’ rights
    New Zealanders deserve a proper conversation about National’s plans to keep undermining the real value of their wages and conditions at work. “Today National has released a ‘workplace policy’ which will further widen the imbalance of power between...
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • Didn’t Get Your Easyvote Pack? You Need to Enrol Now.
    If you didn’t get an EasyVote pack in the mail last week, you need to check your enrolment now as you may not be enrolled....
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • Survey shows television without adverts could be vote winner
    Survey shows television without adverts could be a vote winner Television news focuses too much on politicians' personalities and not enough on the real issues, according to a UMR survey commissioned by the Coalition for Better Broadcasting....
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • Which of Key’s many statements will Greenwald challenge?
    John Key's credibility and honesty will be tested on many more GCSB issues than whether there was / is mass surveillance of New Zealanders by the GCSB. I have put together this by no means comprehensive list of Key's statements...
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • 4th tranche of Auckland Housing Accord licenses sprawl
    Youth organisation, Generation Zero, is appalled at the next stage of the Auckland Housing Accord, released today, as it is once again focussed on urban sprawl. The fourth tranche of 41 Special Housing Areas (SHAs), allows for 8000 dwellings, nearly...
    Scoop politics | 14-09
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