Amongst the rubble: a look at the Christchurch earthquake from the bottom up

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1. marco 1

   18 September 2010 at 12:11 pm

   I got to the paragraph about the “Blatant act of racism” and stopped reading this tripe. I know several of the people who were at the welfare centre at the time and you are grossly misinformed and reactionary the rest of post isn’t worth reading.
   • Lanthanide 1.1

     18 September 2010 at 12:37 pm

     Yes, with the reports of them intimidating other people in the centre, I too am suspicious of the “racism” call.

     It also strikes me that, if anything, the Maori Party are the ones that have made it about race. What if it had been a large white family that were kicked out; would National or Labour or the Greens gotten up and asked for a formal apology? I think not. It seems the Maori Party should’ve confirmed what the actual situation on the ground was before they leapt to conclusions about racism.
     • Zorr 1.1.1

       18 September 2010 at 5:08 pm

       Have to agree with these comments here.

       Often in the case here where you are writing such a rant you need to be careful where you step. There are a couple of issues with the current story being run about the family in question. Firstly, it is a whanau of 30 people. They showed The Press a single property. Is that their only house for all 30 of them? I do realise that people often live in incredibly squalid conditions and can fit in to such propertys like sardines in a can but with their claim that that is the only property they can reside at, the burden of proof is on them.

       Also, when it comes to judging the reports on the situation you have to take in to account the credibility of the people making the claims. On one side, the welfare workers, Police and everyone else at the site. On the other side, a patched Mongrel Mob (I believe that was the particular gang affiliation) family and the Maori party reacting on their “word”. I think I know which way I lean here.
2. Bill 2

   18 September 2010 at 12:29 pm

   Ah. Somebody speaking for the silenced. Finally.

   BTW. Just a little detail. Apparently unscrupulous types were manoeuvring to make a killing out of individuals’ misfortune.

   One way that these unscrupulous types were looking to line their pockets was in taking down dodgy chimneys. And the suggestion was made that they would overcharge and so a ‘stranger danger’ warning was issued to check the credentials and rely on accredited builders only.

   And if that wasn’t going to deter you from accepting help from strangers,(whether paid or not) there was the secondary warning put out claiming that chimneys constructed before 1980 could well contain large amounts of asbestos. So the implication was that attempting to display a degree of initiative would be irresponsible and endanger the health/life of any person engaging in chimney deconstruction.

   Which led me to wonder whether people removing their chimneys prior to the quake were banned from doing so because of asbestos and consequently forced to employ a credited builder at quite some expense.

   And also led me to wonder: ‘Who are the real unscrupulous types seeking to profit from misfortune?’ Master builders trying to ensure that a certain degree of guaranteed work exists for them going forward, or the friend, neighbour or stranger willing to lend a helping hand?
3. Bill 3

   18 September 2010 at 12:52 pm

   Notwithstanding Gerry Brownlie’s powers to make things up as he goes along…

   Anybody in Christchurch who witnesses any registered builder demolishing any pre 1980 chimneys without full protective suits and respirators should exercise their civic duty and report said company to the relevant authority (or/and the media) for ignoring the health and safety of their workers.

   And any registered builder who is seen transporting any of this allegedly asbestos laden chimney waste should be reported straight away to the relevant authority (and/or the media) as the transportation and disposal of asbestos is subject to strict regulations due to public safety issues..
4. Rharn 4

   18 September 2010 at 1:00 pm

   I spotted some firemen demolishing a chimney in Coronation St a few days back. No saftey resperators etc
   • Rob A 4.1

     19 September 2010 at 11:15 am

     There are three firemen on my neighbours roof right now taking down chimneys, all they’ve got in the way of safety gear are glasses
     • Bill 4.1.1

       19 September 2010 at 1:04 pm

       From what I can gather, if it not obviously a brick chimney and also pre 1980, then there’s a fair chance that asbestos is present in the immediate vicinity of the structure.

       Hope you’re not down wind if that’s the case…..
       • Bill 4.1.1.1

         19 September 2010 at 2:31 pm

         FYI Downloadable pdf version of Guidelines for the Management and Removal of Asbestos

         http://www.osh.dol.govt.nz/order/catalogue/pdf/asbmgmt.pdf
5. prism 5

   18 September 2010 at 4:25 pm

   There was lots of positive comment from the pollies after the quake about the wonderful way people pulled together and how most went to family and friends and so were all right. There was a lot of emphasis on this and I thought what about the difficulties that the host families were having.

   I did wonder about the extent of civil responsibility for aid when, I think Kim was interviewing Bob Parker. A resident had got in touch with her about the difficulty of getting a portaloo installed by the Council in their street. Parker seemed unsure about this matter and suggested that people could instigate getting one through private firms. This is what had happened, being paid by one woman’s insurance company. I did not hear how these amenities are allocated and whether the woman and rest of residents, would have been entitled or whether they just needed one for their own convenience.

   Are reports coming out of Czar Gerry’s office about the measures that he is using and how he is acting to assist all the residents in the worst-hit areas, now and in the future? Facts to the public, rather than hearsay stories, would be helpful.
6. tsmithfield 6

   18 September 2010 at 4:42 pm

   “Equally concerning is the example of a Welfare Centre that in a blatant act of racism evicted a large Maori whanau who were seeking comfort, support and refuge in a facility set up for this purpose (‘freeloaders’ was the term used).”

   This was publicised in Christchurch at the time. As I remember it they claimed their house had been red stickered, when investigations found this not to be the case. Also, this group was acting abusively to others in the center. Given those set of circumstances I would expect anyone from any race to be asked to leave.

   This goes to show that these days its difficult to say anything without being called a racist
7. Jared 7

   18 September 2010 at 10:06 pm

   Those welfare centres were explicitly set up to cater for all kinds of distress, whether it be emotional or physical. It was made clear that anyone could use them, to get aid and feel safe regardless of whether you had property damage or not. So to claim that the whanau in question had ‘no visible damage’ or that inspectors only ‘visited one house’ is beside the point.

   As more reports come in it seems clear that racism has been a factor in kicking them out — of course a large Maori whanau are going to ‘intimidate’ those already scared of groups of Maori from the media and common discourse. We shouldn’t be so quick to ride on the back of mainstream media accounts, nor accept the reports of a largely Pakeha audience — at least until more info comes to light. But it does seem that the colour of their skin and their links to certain organisations influenced their removal.
   • Zorr 7.1

     19 September 2010 at 12:39 pm

     I dislike comments like these because while espousing a view that states they are against the problems inherent in the system, they merely create new problems. It makes me feel like I have just been slapped with a “because you are white you are therefore racist and can’t be trusted to discuss issues involving Maori” sticker. This has nothing to do with the color of their skin – I would have the same complete distrust for a skinhead/neo-Nazi family (or a family involved with LibertariaNZ).

     Once again, as I previously stated above, don’t be so quick to try playing the racism card.
8. henry olongo 8

   18 September 2010 at 11:19 pm

   I live 200 metres from the whanau you are discussing. They are a big family with gang connections in ‘shirleyhood’. This is one of chchs safest neighbourhoods because fuckwits know not 2 try burgs round here. They are also nice people. The media beat the story up big time.

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1. The Standard: posted on 17 September 2010 at 11:27 pm
2. Gabriella Turek: posted on 18 September 2010 at 4:30 am

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