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An open letter to all unionists & fighters for equality & social justice in Aotearoa

Written By: - Date published: 12:29 pm, April 29th, 2011 - 215 comments
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Dear friends,

I am writing to urge all supporters of genuine left politics to support and if possible participate in the new Mana Party led by Hone Harawira to found a new movement for radical social change in Aotearoa/New Zealand.The Mana Party is being launched this Saturday, April 30, from 12 noon at the Te Mahurehure Marae, 73 Premier Ave, Point Chevalier, Auckland.

This party is a product of the protracted struggle over the last decades to achieve an independent voice for the interests of Maori people in Aotearoa/New Zealand. That struggle exposed a rift that has seen a the Maori Party captured by pro-corporate elite more concerned with protecting the interests of the wealthy against the interests of the vast majority of people in Aotearoa/New Zealand – whether Maori, Pakeha, Pacifica or Asian.The Mana Party is determined to continue to be the voice of the majority of ordinary Maori and at the same time give voice to the excluded majority across our land – whatever their national or ethnic origin.

In a letter to a unionist this week Hone gave a summary of how he sees the new party’s direction. He wrote:“As you can appreciate the new party to be called Mana hasn’t been launched yet and I’m certainly not in a position to make policy on its behalf at this stage. “However I can say I have been a proud union member in any job I was employed. The party and I will be pro-worker. I am fortunate having several trade unionists taking leadership roles up to assist the new party and who have offered to contribute to its policy.“We have had some policy discussions in the interim working group and can give you a bit of a feel where we are at. Nothing is confirmed of course.“

• Mana will be anti neo-liberal, against monopoly capitalism and against privatisation of the people’s assets. Utilities such as water, power, roading etc should be in the hands of the people rather than a guaranteed money making venture for corporations“

• Our strategy on taxes will be targeted at wealth such as capital gains taxes, death duties, and asset taxes. We will want to abolish GST with sometime like a financial transaction tax (we’d like to call it the Hone Heke Tax). The rich need to pay their fair share. As a start the last tax cut should be cancelled. Labour’s GST cosmetic elimination off fresh veges and fruit says everything about their current state of mind. Timid and uninspiring. “

• KiwiSaver is privatisation of our pensions so increasing the money we give to these financial institutions to do what they want needs more thought. “

• We should nationalise monopolies and duopolies. “

• We certainly need an agreed mechanism to set minimum terms of pay and conditions for workers. But given the private unionised workforce is small we think we should probably focus on union building first. The two practical steps would be any bargaining unit covering workers would take a vote. If a majority voted in favour of a CEA covering everyone then a bargaining fee would apply for those workers not wishing to join the union. It stops free loading and undermining the negotiations yet still allows workers to choose whether they belong to the union. The second suggestion is that the state covers any CEA costs for both sides. I would appreciate your feedback on this as a short term step. Ultimately every worker needs to be in strong unions but then that’s your job, not mine. “

• New Zealand needs a planned economy that makes job creation its main emphasis rather than leaves it to the non-existent free market. “Given the short time I’ve had to respond to this I apologise if I haven’t covered everything you’d like. But my response should give you some comfort to where our new party will position itself politically.

“Have no doubt we will be a staunch party that puts people – Maori and non-maori – before the needs of the already rich.I’m appealing to all supporters of the rights of working people and genuine equality and social justice in our land to become part building this new movement.

As the invite to this public launch declares: “Happy are those who dream and are prepared to pay the price to make those dreams come true”. By supporting the founding public launch of the Mana Party this Saturday we take one more step towards making our dreams a reality.

Yours in Solidarity

Mike Treen

215 comments on “An open letter to all unionists & fighters for equality & social justice in Aotearoa”

  1. Anthony 1

    If Sue and Matt are on board (in addition to Hone) then they definitely have my party vote.

    • Tigger 1.1

      The fact that McCarten is on board makes me think this party is doomed. Totally rate Sue though – she deserves better than the scrum of bullies she’s surrounded herself with.

    • Terry 1.2

      Terry – yes I agree with the above (Pakeha). My vote will go this way.

  2. quentin 2

    As much as I support the struggle of Maori people to fight for their rights, I don’t believe in a race based party. I fully understand that the maori are tangatawhenua and need special protection and support to help alleviate the grievance from the past. For this reason I do support the existence of maori seats and fully acknowledge that maori should be consulted on many more political points (i.e. supercity). However I think it is much more important to give a voice to the Green. They are truly representing the people of NZ and trying to protect our land. They do understand maori issues (Meteria Turia is co-leader), but are also able to reflect on the issues facing all of us NZers. Not to mention the fact that it is time to give consideration to the planet we live on. We are part of the ecosystem we live in and we can’t live outside it, we therefore must protect our environment! This I think no other political party has yet realised

    • Terry 2.1

      Terry
      You call this race-based? It is not in fact. You might as well call National “Wealth-based”.

    • McFlock 2.2

      I support the idea of the Maori Party, and am glad Hone has exposed the class conflict within the wider representation issue by launching the Mana Party.

      I also support the concept of a party with primarily environmental principles like the Green party.

      But my main concern is about the class struggle, so I can’t support a party for whom the general population’s class conflict is a secondary (even if important) party, and I’m not convinced that this is the Mana Party. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to be able to say “I voted for the government” or “my party’s in parliament”, and Hone seems to be a solid leftie, but unless he’s going to be the party that refuses to support anyone on confidence and supply, something will have to be prioritised above something else – and that something else would be general leftist policies under iwi-focussed policies.

      I’ll think about it some more, but that’s my basic feeling at the moment.

  3. Pete 3

    A recipe to increase the population of Australia, as NZ’s economy swan dives into oblivion.

    But I guess that’s what he wants.

    Lucky his chances of getting any power are zero.

    • Blighty 3.1

      “A recipe to increase the population of Australia, as NZ’s economy swan dives into oblivion.”

      describes the last three years under Key pretty well.

  4. higherstandard 4

    Moonbats to the right of me moonbats to the left of me.
    Into the election for 2011 went the 4 million.
    Lefty and righty and even the centre most mighty.
    Stormed at with lie and bribe.
    Hoodwinked by spindoctor and scribe.
    Into the election for 2011 went the 4 million.

  5. Lanthanide 5

    Seems quite promising. I might make my forthcoming donation to them, instead of Labour, as they could probably use the money more.

  6. Rob A 6

    They are starting to look very promising. Hone might be worth my vote

  7. New Party looks exciting. I look forward to Winston scrapping with Brash, and the Mana Party ripping into National and its privatisation and pollution agenda. National is failing Aotearoa, failing its people and failing our planet.

    It would be very exciting seeing a invigorated union movement , and a new movement that has more gaul and guts than that pensioner Brash. Venzuela has Chavez, Bolivia has Evo Morales, and Aotearoa has a new movement… watch out Brownlee, Brash and bankers…!!! Key did say privatisation might be the issue that breaks him, and he is a gambling man. The odds are, he is out this year with Rodney.

  8. On a side note there is a climate festival in Auckland in May http://planetfestival.org.nz/ on May 21, Auckland Town Hall.

  9. Oleolebiscuitbarrell 9

    Hilarious. “Yours in solidarity”. Is he serious? What year does he think it is? 1932?

    • Eddie 9.1

      amazing how ignorant the right is of the left

    • Galeandra 9.2

      You oleaginous types don’t know how to stick together, so ‘solidarity’ is one of those solecisms which make you giggle so immaturely behind your hands. Shades of Huxley’s portrayal in Brave New World. The omens are worse than they were in ’32 btw, people will certainly have to learn to cooperate and support each other.Ijust hope I don’t get to pull a smartarse like you out of a ditch, though.

  10. Sanctuary 10

    They’ve got no money to campaign with. Next.

    • r0b 10.1

      Maybe they don’t need it.

      Also, take a moment to think about just what a sad state democracy would be in if you couldn’t participate without loads of cash.

      • Eddie 10.1.1

        remember Whale’s posts about the Brash buy-out. It’s all about donors to the Right.

        • Colonial Viper 10.1.1.1

          They’re not donors mate, Righties always expect a return on their investment

    • Terry 10.2

      Terry. They have YOU – let us see your money for starters.

    • They also can’t advertise on radio and TV. Iwi radio was a bit of a focus of Maori Party advertising last time, but while the Maori Party have applied for an allocation, the Mana Party has not, and applications closed some time ago.

  11. Pete 11

    Green vote will split.

  12. Oleolebiscuitbarrell 12

    “Happy are those who dream and are prepared to pay the price to make those dreams come true”

    Except they aren’t prepared to pay. That’s the very point. They expect someone else to.

  13. big bruv 13

    My god!

    I do hope that the Mofo party push their compulsory unionism agenda hard.

    The people of NZ will reject it completely.

    • felix 13.1

      I don’t see anything in there about compulsory unionism bruv.

      I do see a bit about stopping freeloaders and bludgers like yourself getting a free ride from their unionised workmates though.

      • big bruv 13.1.1

        Then look a bit closer Felix.

        Thank goodness the only thing this bunch of moonbats will achieve is the demise of the Greens and perhaps the demise of the racist Maori party.

        All in all it has been a great week for the right.

        • Colonial Viper 13.1.1.1

          All in all it has been a great week for the right.

          Yes, love to see Righties knifing each other in the back, saying publicly that they really enjoyed and are proud of being knifed by their friends, and then claiming here that it’s been a great week :P

          • big bruv 13.1.1.1.1

            Good old Comrade Viper, never letting the truth get in the way of his spin.

            Nobody was knifed in the back Viper, this was an honourable challenge for the party leadership (something the left know nothing about) and something done out in the open.

            Brash (and I suspect Key) have stuffed the left well and truly, ACT will pick up at least 8% of the vote (I predict they may well get 11%) and ensure that Neville Key does not have to go to the racist Maori party to form a government.

            I should feel sorry for you guys, it is going to be a very tough three years coming up as you see your all your pet projects killed off, never mind, the nation will emerge stronger and in far better shape.

            Hell…we might even see an end to the bludgers and DPB slappers stealing from the hard working tax payer.

            • felix 13.1.1.1.1.1

              It must be amazing in your world bruv, a magical place where you distance yourself from racism by working with Don Fucking Brash.

              Lol, you’re such a thickie. I’ve missed you.

        • felix 13.1.1.2

          Then look a bit closer Felix.”

          Glad to. Please point me to the part that deals with compulsory unionism and we’ll have close look together, you and me.

          • The Baron 13.1.1.2.1

            You are right, Felix. No compulsory membership – just compulsory raiding of every worker’s pockets, to pay for services that they may not want, need or agree with. But hey at least the membership is optional – even though you have to pay for it.
            Glad we have that cleared up.

            • Draco T Bastard 13.1.1.2.1.1

              Ah, I see, you prefer that people have the ability to free-ride on other peoples work. And here I was thinking you hated bludgers.

            • felix 13.1.1.2.1.2

              Jeez Baron. How about you take some personal responsibility, negotiate your own agreement without free-riding on the union negotiations, and pay for it yourself.

              What’s the problem with that?

              • M

                Nah felix, it’s too easy to coast on someone else’s coat tails. For all the frothing at the mouth RWNJs they probably can’t remember the last time they did an honest days’s work ’cause their too busy perfecting their grifting skills.

  14. I am excited about this launch and see Mana and the Greens working well. Good on everyone involved – and i can see why goff and the maori party are so scared of Hone – Party Vote Mana has a great ring to it.

  15. Oleolebiscuitbarrell 15

    Mike Treen was so excited about getting out his presser that he didn’t have time to proof read it.

  16. Herodotus 16

    “The Mana Party is determined to continue to be the voice of the majority of ordinary Maori and at the same time give voice to the excluded majority across our land – whatever their national or ethnic origin.”
    So from this it is a political party for the Maori 1st. What happens if there is a conflict in policy outcomes when 1 group maybe disadvantaged to the benfit of another whom they are purporting to represent?
    and then this”..(we’d like to call it the Hone Heke Tax). ” Why are small parties so dependant upon the cult of personality?
    And should not many of their reported aims already be the aims of a true Labour party? But I forgot the current Lab gang is very similar to that in the blue corner, pity many cannot see it ;-)

  17. Carol 17

    This is a really important project. I like how the aims of the party are being framed. Of course, it still remains to be seen if they can follow through with it in practice…. the campaigning, the party make-up, the policy development etc. But I do hope it develops well.

  18. slightlyrighty 18

    Thank you for your letter. I’ve not had such a good laugh in ages!

  19. Paulwgn 19

    Some one has been channelling Pyongyang.

  20. queenstfarmer 20

    Mike Treen forgot to add “Change country’s name to Zimbabwe”

  21. r0b 21

    Gosh a sudden rush in 10 minutes of agitated Righties. You folk just got you astro-turfing orders did you?

  22. Draco T Bastard 22

    The party sounds interesting and, if it ends up being for everyone with a hard left focus, will probably get my support.

  23. Kane 23

    Wonderful news! All power to Hone and Mana.

    Finally lefties like me, who may have voted Alliance in the past, will be able to cast a vote in November, knowing that our views will once again be represented in the New Zealand Parliament.

    Aotearoa seriously lacks a parliamentary party that espouses the policies that Mana appears to be pushing. With the centrist to right wing side of the political spectrum fully crowded, Mana and the Greens can share the Left and progressive vote.

  24. Mikke 24

    This is straight from “One flew over the cookoos nest”.

    Seems more like north korea than a workers utopia.!!!!!!

    • r0b 24.1

      Sure is odd how many brand new righties are commenting on this particular post!

      • big bruv 24.1.1

        Probably because it is the most humorous thing we have seen for some time r0b.

        • r0b 24.1.1.1

          You folk really need to get out more.

          • big bruv 24.1.1.1.1

            This open letter would have been accurately titled…’An open letter to the 17% of Kiwis who still belong to a union’ or ‘An open letter to the 17% of Kiwis who are happy to see their union dues go toward funding political parties’

            • felix 24.1.1.1.1.1

              You really need to learn a bit about unions bruv. You’re making a fool of yourself as usual.

            • Colonial Viper 24.1.1.1.1.2

              ’An open letter to the 17% of Kiwis who still belong to a union’

              17% of voters eh? Not bad, not bad :)

              • Draco T Bastard

                17% would be awesome. Throw in Labours 30% and the Greens 8% and we’re home and hosed.

                People forget that only 80% of the population voted last elections – that 17% doesn’t have to come from the subset of voters that voted last time but could be a completely new set. Ones that suddenly find themselves with a party that actually represents them.

  25. James 25

    terrifiying. It’s like we’ve got a party on Pluto and nothing and all other parties are on Mercury. One’s waaaaay too cold and the others are far too hot…be nice if Labour or someone would at least get as far as earth…

  26. Pete 26

    Mofo Party: “When North Korea Just Isn’t South Pacific Enough!”

    >>Sure is odd how many brand new righties are commenting on this particular post!

    The laughter spreads quickly across the blogosphere…..

    For starters, a financial transaction tax. That can be easily avoided by the wealthy, but not by the poor.

    I’m sure you can work out why…..

    If you give it some thought….

    • Colonial Viper 26.1

      For starters, a financial transaction tax. That can be easily avoided by the wealthy, but not by the poor.

      Sounds to me like you have no idea.

      I actually think that the property tax is the best proposal.

      0.75% p.a. on each dollar of net assets over $1M, and up to $2M.

      1% p.a. thereafter.

      If you hold net assets of $5M, you’ll pay approx $38K p.a. in property taxes.

      • Pete 26.1.1

        “Sounds to me like you have no idea.”

        Tell me, would my share trades in the US market attract this tax? Australia? UK?

        There wouldn’t be much point trading shares or investing here, huh. I’d pay once on the way out, but nothing for each transaction, year after year.

        Meanwhile, every time you go to the ATM, you’ll be paying a transaction tax.

        And it doesn’t sound like I’ll be paying any GST.

        Nice.

        • Colonial Viper 26.1.1.1

          Pete, that’s no biggie.

          Commercial transactions in foreign countries are subject to the tax laws of those countries and the treaties we have with those countries.

          Nothing new or interesting there. That’s the way its always been. You work in a foreign country chances are that you don’t pay NZ income tax. So?

          Nice thing about a FTT is that you can exclude certain transactions. Those from ATM’s and EFTPOS terminals for instance.

          Don’t worry mate, the system won’t be dumb, it’ll catch who it’s supposed to catch. Money traders, property traders and similar.

          including those who move large amounts of capital around NZ, and in and out of NZ :)

          I’d pay once on the way out, but nothing for each transaction, year after year.

          Well its moving the funds back to NZ so your family can benefit from it which is the problem eh? Then there’s the little matter of the CGT on your foreign shares you’ve been happily trading :D

          • Pete 26.1.1.1.1

            I’d sit resident here and transact offshore. Your transaction tax couldn’t touch it.

            >>Don’t worry mate

            Not in the least bit worried.

            What makes you think you’re entitled to huge swathes of my money, anyway? I worked for it, not you. I saved it, not you. I’m happy to pay my share, just like everyone else, but I won’t be paying more than I would in, say, Australia.

            If you force me to do so, using your state gun, I simply move countries.

            You get nothing.

            • Colonial Viper 26.1.1.1.1.1

              If you force me to do so, using your state gun, I simply move countries.

              There’s plenty of capital in the world and plenty of places with far lower taxes than NZ right now, right this second. Somalia, Brunei, Singapore, Hong Kong. Off you go then.

              Don’t look back mate. Bye bye. Hope your kids like changing school.

              What makes you think you’re entitled to huge swathes of my money, anyway? I worked for it, not you. I saved it, not you. I’m happy to pay my share, just like everyone else, but I won’t be paying more than I would in, say, Australia.

              Your share is what you can afford, and if you are wealthy you can afford much more while still enjoying all the luxuries of life. Not brain science. Don’t worry mate, you won’t have to downgrade your Porsche 911 Turbo to the normally aspirated one, wouldn’t be that mean on your ass.

              You get nothing.

              More opportunities for us who are left, so help yourself.

              • Pete

                >> Somalia, Brunei, Singapore, Hong Kong. Off you go then.

                It’s about thresholds. You go over them, and people – and business – leave.

                >>Your share is what you can afford, and if you are wealthy you can afford much more while still enjoying all the luxuries of life

                You live like a king compared to many in the Pacific. They may call minimum wage here the surplus of luxury. You’ll find out soon enough if the Mofo party ever had their way, as that will be your existence.

                >>More opportunities for us who are left, so help yourself.

                The IP goes. The education goes. The drive goes. That’s what business is, not the physical means of production. If you can’t compete now, what on earth makes you think you’ll ever compete? The opportunity is what YOU make it. It’s not something hanging around that just falls into your lap.

                In any case, I export IP in the form of software. You could compete with me right now, but you don’t. If I go, the revenue goes. Same for everyone else like me. It doesn’t get “vacated” for you to simply “take up the reigns”.

                Your mindless vision will see you living in the third world.

                • infused

                  Nice Pete.

                • bbfloyd

                  does IP stand for internet porn?

                  • felix

                    Inherent Privilege?

                  • Pete

                    Intellectual property.

                    Most business runs on IP. Business also runs on the drive and skills of the people involved. If they disappear, it doesn’t mean others can simply “take up the reigns”. If others possessed such skills and qualities, they’d already be the competition.

                    If you can’t compete in this country, right now, you can’t compete. It doesn’t get any easier than starting a business in this country.

                • felix

                  “It’s about thresholds. You go over them, and people – and business – leave. “

                  Perhaps if you could give some examples of countries where this has happened – or of companies in NZ leaving when tax rates go up or returning when they go down – then your argument might be worth taking note of.

                  Can you provide such evidence (to be meaningful it would be of a statistical nature, one-off anecdotes don’t mean much) or not?

                  • Pete

                    Certainly.

                    You might want to consider the lyrics of Taxman, by The Beatles.

                    Many high income earners moved out of Britain at the time, due to the unfair tax rates.

                    • KJT

                      If they had been in Germany exchange restrictions would have prevented tax exiles from taking their earnings out of the country.
                      But UK, like NZ, is governed by wealthy non-contributing bludgers for wealthy non-contributing bludgers.

                    • Pete

                      Again, there’s a threshold. Australia and NZ exist in a very similar range.

                      If government is better at allocating capital than the individual, and this would benefit most people, then why not set tax rates for all at, or close to, 100%?

                      What’s your job?

                      How about we pay everyone equally, as everyone is a worthy human being by virtue of being born, and everyone who works contributes to the greater good of everyone else.

                      It matters not if you’ve got good qualifications, and work long hours, and have 20 years experience, and manage a lot of people, which is stressful, you should be happy that the 18 year old new hire – who seems to take a lot of time off, the scamp – is on the exact same wages as you.

                      He is, after all, a worthwhile human being and contributes something to your existence, as we’re all inter-connected.

                      Why don’t you demand equal pay for all at your workplace?

                  • KJT

                    Please explain why so many Kiwi’s are leaving for Oz which has much higher tax rates. Why the French are so much better of than the Americans despite very high taxes.
                    Or why are Somali’s worse of than us. Their tax rates are zero.

                • Galeandra

                  ‘What makes you think you’re entitled to huge swathes of my money, anyway? I worked for it, not you. I saved it, not you.’

                  Oh my, how exalted and virtuous you are.
                  Didn’t drive goods to market or teach in a local primary though, did we. Just feed off onselling someone else’s work.
                  But of course you’re special and soooo deserving.
                  Pay your share, freeloader.

                  • Pete

                    I grew up poor. Immigrant family. Worked the land (market gardens) during my summer school holidays. What were you doing? Playing with your friends?

                    Nice for some, I guess.

                    I’m deserving of what I created, yes, in the same way you’re deserving of the rewards of your achievements. Why should someone who works 9-5, takes no risk, and needs to be trained be rewarded at the same level as someone who works longer hours, assumes more risk and upskilled themselves?

                    • KJT

                      I grew up in a lower income family too. Worked all my school holidays, upskilled myself, ran a business for a time and have qualifications and experience in several different highly skilled professions.

                      I am grateful I was able to do this because, unlike many other countries, NZ tax payers offer subsidised, nearly free, education.

                      I also benefited from employees that were well educated and literate, infrastructure and political stability at no extra cost to my business.

                      I doubt you could have gotten where you are in the country your parents emigrated from.

                      I have no problem with paying taxes to help others like myself, and you up the ladder.

                      Turning around and saying you did it all yourself is a lie, because, like me, you benefited from our socialist system of education, child care and health care.

                      Reductions in taxes over the last 30 years have simply resulted in less disposable income for most of us. We now have to pay twice for privatised infrastructure that used to be supplied from taxes.

                      I agree the tax base should be broadened. Too much comes from productive income and not enough from wealth, financial transactions, and speculation.

                      In case you have not noticed wages for those in skilled, real productive jobs have dropped rapidly since 1980. That is why most of us are now paying 45% taxes into Australia.

                    • Pete

                      I’m not saying I “did it all myself”. I’m not arguing that I should pay no tax. I’m not arguing that we shouldn’t help those less fortunate.

                      We agree on these points, I think.

                      I take issue with the idea that we should pile endless taxes on the wealthy, just because they are wealthy. Some argue that the resulting redistribution is all gain to society, and has no costs associated with it.

                      It does have costs associated with it. The churn alone is wasteful. You’d also need to believe the government would always use that capital wisely, when there is much evidence that shows they set fire to it. Finance companies do it too, and, like you ( I suspect) I do not think they should be bailed out. They have proven they cannot allocate capital wisely.

                      Why would some 9-5 bureaucrat know how to allocate capital than someone who has proven they can do so? Isn’t there jeopardy in spending someone else’s money? See the Finance company collapses. Isn’t there something to be said for leaving more capital with those who have proven they can grow it?

                      Higher taxes can, and do, kill the golden goose.

                      Why not have 100% tax rates?

                • Please Pete

                  Bugger off to another land where you can enjoy your wealth and contribute nothing to the community that you live in. You contribute nothing here. Why should we even spend time reading your crap and responding to you?

                  • RobC

                    You go over them, and people – and business – leave.

                    So tell me, what are the current migration figures to Oz again? :grin:

                    • Pete

                      So, if NZ has significantly higher tax levels than Australia, you think migration levels, of people and/or capital wouldn’t change?

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Why are the Right Wing so slow as to not realise that people go to where their in the pocket incomes are higher, not where taxes are lower.

                      This is not rocket science.

                      Which is why Key and English deliberately lowering NZ income levels is one of the most damaging things they can do to our economy and our population.

                      Frakin stooopid.

                      Of course those on the highest incomes love lowered tax rates because they get free money for no extra work. Those on low incomes – well you’re earning fuck all to start with so getting a few cents extra back per dollar of fuck all makes no difference.

                      Hence why the rich push for tax cuts all the time.

                  • Pete

                    What do you mean I contribute “nothing to the community I live in”?

                    Why aren’t you paying 100% tax? You can, you know. Just make a contribution. If not, it appears you’re doing “nothing for the community you live in”.

                    That appears to be the basis of your criticism. If I don’t pay all the tax YOU demand I should, then I’m contributing “nothing”.

                    • joe90

                      Why would some 9-5 bureaucrat know how to allocate capital than someone who has proven they can do so? Isn’t there jeopardy in spending someone else’s money? See the Finance company collapses. Isn’t there something to be said for leaving more capital with those who have proven they can grow it?

                      Yet the most successful fund managers in the country are 9-5 bureaucrats.

                    • Pete

                      Yet the most successful fund managers in the country are 9-5 bureaucrats.

                      “On an annualised basis, the NZ Super Fund has returned an average of 7.9 per cent a year since the fund began”

                      7.9?

                      I don’t look at deals less than 30%. Successful private business returns significantly above single digit returns, else why would anyone bother? Government shares in this, of course, with no risk to themselves.

                      All funds, public and private, are conservative by nature. As they must be.
                      But you wouldn’t want to bet your country on them.

                      Is the super-fund result after tax? Do they pay tax?

                    • Colonial Viper

                      I don’t look at deals less than 30%. Successful private business returns significantly above single digit returns, else why would anyone bother? Government shares in this, of course, with no risk to themselves.

                      Oh, how many 30% ROI deals are you gonna be able to cut in a country with no roads, no power, no police, no way of enforcing contracts, and no educated workers?

                      That’s the role Government plays, and its a huge risk on Government’s part because guys like you love to cut the public purse out of the action unless you are taking from the public purse.

                      You fucking ungrateful bastard. You’ve deluded yourself into thinking that you’re a modern day Gordon Gecko? ***Choke***

                    • Pete

                      How about Alta Vista? Fuck what a loser, you pick horses after they’ve won, and ignore all those which looked good at the start then crashed and burned along the way, destroying tens of billions in value.

                      You said a 30% return was a scam. I demonstrated it isn’t. It’s just business as usual.

                      Do some businesses go belly up? Yes. So what?

                    • Pete

                      Colonial Viper claims to be on 5K a week.

                      That is 260k a year.

                      May I ask what job you have, Colonial? If you were to leave, could a school leaver fill your job?

                    • Pete

                      Hotchins and SCF “creating more value” for NZ shareholders and investors?

                      They didn’t, which is why they went belly up. I didn’t agree with the bailouts.

                      AMI “creating more value” by under-reinsuring?

                      Again, fail.

                      They aren’t wealthy. They’re crying poor.

                      Fisher and Paykel ‘creating more value” by firing skilled NZ workers and hiring Mexicans and Thais?

                      Yes. Why on earth do New Zealander’s want to compete for low-level manufacturing jobs, anyway?

                      Let capital take flight, you can move to low tax Somalia, Singapore, Brunei or HK with it. I advise you to follow the money and go. Not afraid of your arguments as you simply advocate a race to the bottom where the only winners are those which are already rich.

                      I’ve answered your point, many times. You should have the intellectual honesty to not keep repeating it. Compare like with like. No matter how low the tax rate, I’m not moving to Somalia. However, if Australia taxes me half what NZ taxes me, then the move is an easy one. As it would be for a lot of people.

                      You want high taxes on people over 280K per year. How many people qualify? At 59%, that makes a good accountant even more valuable, wouldn’t you say? The only people paying your tax would be the people at the top of government departments.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Yes. Why on earth do New Zealander’s want to compete for low-level manufacturing jobs, anyway?

                      I don’t know, may be because these “low level” jobs as you call them are highly skilled and pay between $18/hr and $28/hr?

                      Just like National trying to force Hillside workshops to close down and put dozens of skilled workers, tradesmen and suppliers out of business.

                      You want high taxes on people over 280K per year. How many people qualify? At 59%, that makes a good accountant even more valuable, wouldn’t you say? The only people paying your tax would be the people at the top of government departments.

                      Good to see you admit that a lot of wealthy earners shirk their responsibilities and are willing to pay their advisors to help them do that.

                      I’m not moving to Somalia. However, if Australia taxes me half what NZ taxes me, then the move is an easy one. As it would be for a lot of people.

                      Go then.

                      Because 700,000 NZ born Kiwis already have, not because taxes are lower there, but because incomes are higher.

                      But your mates Bill and John are forcing NZ incomes lower as we speak.

                      Interesting eh.

                  • Pete

                    Do you have a moral obligation to raise the living standards of people in the South Pacific? Would you pay more tax, thereby reducing your own living standards, to raise theirs?

                    Solidarity should not be limited by landmass, after all. We’re all people, aren’t we?

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Hey fucktard, we are not talking about people in different countries, we are talking about helping your neighbours and their children who live within 250m of you.

                      Is that Ok by you?

                      Would you pay more tax, thereby reducing your own living standards, to raise theirs?

                      Hey shit head, how exactly is someone on $5000 p.w. after tax income going to have a reduced living standard if they lose another 10% of that in increased taxes and so end up having to live on ‘only’ $4500 p.w.???

                      Given that $500 p.w. is enough to pay for an hours home help per week for 15-20 very elderly and frail people in your local community who in the last several months have had that cut.

                      Damn some people are total losers.

                    • Pete

                      >>Hey fucktard

                      Well, that’s polite. It certainly shows the left are better people, and more caring.

                      >>we are talking about helping your neighbours and their children who live within 250m of you

                      Are people who live further away less worthy of our help? Why? They exist on a different piece of turf above sea level? Luck of the draw, kind of thing?

                      Rather harsh. Why does that mean you should not sacrifice what you have to help them. You live like a king, by comparison. Surely you could exist on less? They certainly do.

                      >>Hey shit head

                      More of that caring nature coming through, I see.

                      >>how exactly is someone on $5000 p.w. after tax income going to have a reduced living standard if they lose another 10% of that in increased taxes and so end up having to live on ‘only’ $4500 p.w.???

                      A poor person may ask the same of you. Anyone poorer than you can make the exact same argument, simply change the figures to whatever level you happen to be on.

                      >>Damn some people are total losers.

                      You’re right, there.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      :)

                      Yeah I’m not here to convince you, just here to show what a tosser you are :D

                      A poor person may ask the same of you. Anyone poorer than you can make the exact same argument, simply change the figures to whatever level you happen to be on.

                      I was talking about myself in that example mate.

                    • joe90

                      I don’t look at deals less than 30%.

                      And you’ve shown yourself to be off in the lala land where 30% returns fall into the if it looks too good to be true is indeed a scam.

                      So I’ll call you, you’re a liar who’s making shit up.

                    • Pete

                      >>I was talking about myself in that example mate.

                      Of course you are.

                      In any case, the problem is easily solved. Take your cheque-book and write out an amount you think you should be taxed at, and send it to the IRD. There is no law that says you can’t pay more tax. Encourage all your friends to do likewise.

                      Do it today.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      There is no law that says you can’t pay more tax. Encourage all your friends to do likewise.

                      I am.

                      All my friends and others too, in fact. Including you.

                      Changes to be implemented come Nov 26.

                      Good of you to keep working against your local communities in favour of your rich asshole masters. Enjoy the scraps they throw you from their dining table.

                    • Pete

                      >>And you’ve shown yourself to be off in the lala land where 30% returns fall into the if it looks too good to be true is indeed a scam.So I’ll call you, you’re a liar who’s making shit up.

                      You’re not in business, clearly.

                      Are you saying Google is a scam? How about Microsoft? How about Facebook? Do you think they return only 7.9% to their backers?

                      How about if you buy a piece of land for 500K, put a 500K house on it, and sell it for $1.5M? The buyer is happy to pay $1.5 because they don’t want to go through the hassle, and risk, of development. They want to just move in. Everyone is happy.

                      I’m sure you can do the maths.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Are you saying Google is a scam? How about Microsoft? How about Facebook? Do you think they return only 7.9% to their backers?

                      How about Alta Vista?

                      How about Worldcom?

                      How about Conexant?

                      How about Enron?

                      How about AOL-Time Warner?

                      How about MySpace?

                      Fuck what a loser, you pick horses after they’ve won, and ignore all those which looked good at the start then crashed and burned along the way, destroying tens of billions in value.

                      Hey i too can get 30% return on investments if I ignore all the big corporates who have flushed themselves down the toilet. Some “businessman” you are

                      How about if you buy a piece of land for 500K, put a 500K house on it, and sell it for $1.5M? The buyer is happy to pay $1.5 because they don’t want to go through the hassle, and risk, of development.

                      Oh somehow flipping houses and pushing real estate prices up and up by loading the country up with more and more mortgage debt owed to foreigners ‘creates wealth’ for our country yeah?

                      *Gufffaw* another Righty with no idea.

                    • Pete

                      >>I am.

                      Of course you are.

                      >>Changes to be implemented come Nov 26.

                      You’re also a comedian, clearly.

                      >>Good of you to keep working against your local communities in favour of your rich asshole masters. Enjoy the scraps they throw you from their dining table.

                      I add value to my education to create wealth, which pays for other people to have hip operations, be educated, and such. I take very little from the collective tax pool, as I do not need it.

                      There is a limit, after which wealth is destroyed. If you take too much, it may inhibit my ability to generate my tax contributions. If the political class take more and more capital away from me, and waste it, they kill the golden goose.

                      If government spend is better than the private sector, why not advocate 100% tax rates?

                    • Colonial Viper

                      There is a limit, after which wealth is destroyed. If you take too much, it may inhibit my ability to generate my tax contributions. If the political class take more and more capital away from me, and waste it, they kill the golden goose.

                      Who gives a shit about your threats to the golden goose, you want to move to Somalia, or Singapore or Brunei or some other place with lower tax rates than NZ, feel free to go.

                      Other people will move into the positions of influence and power and take your place. You won’t even be missed.

                      That’s one thing I like about the market. You don’t see the opportunities here, someone else will.

                      Hope your kids like changing schools.

                      I add value to my education to create wealth

                      Like I said before, your idea of creating wealth through flipping assets and loading the country up with mortgage debt is a load of bollocks.

                    • Pete

                      Oh somehow flipping houses and pushing real estate prices up and up by loading the country up with more and more mortgage debt owed to foreigners ‘creates wealth’ for our country yeah?

                      You’re changing the argument because you lost the point.

                      I’ve demonstrated 30% plus returns on deals is common place. You take a resource, add more than 30% value to it, and sell it.

                      If you were on $5K a week, that’s some government job you have. But you’re on nothing like that, are you.

                      You’ve revealed you lack of knowledge of returns on investment in private enterprise.

                    • Pete

                      Other people will move into the positions of influence and power and take your place. You won’t even be missed. That’s one thing I like about the market. You don’t see the opportunities here, someone else will

                      I’ve explained that to you.

                      It won’t happen.

                      If I leave, you’re left with a room with some computers in it. You don’t have what it takes to turn that into wealth, as the wealth comes from the intellectual property, drive, and ability of the people working there.

                      If you could do it, you’d do it now, compete with me, and eat my lunch. But you don’t. You can no more slot yourself in to that vacated enterprise than you can slot yourself into a 100m Olympic sprint if the Kenyan runner drops out. Unless you first happen to be a very fast runner.

                      You seem to think the only reason you can’t compete now is that someone occupies a place that is rightfully yours. If they go, you slot right in, and you get what they’ve got.

                      Does the same apply to your job? Any 16 year old school leaver could do what you do?

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Nice to meet you Gordon Gecko II.

                      Go on then, leave, go to Somalia or Brunei or Singapore.

                      Each of those countries has much lower tax rates than NZ, right now.

                      Bye bye

                      Like I said, hope your kids like changing schools, you can explain to them that they need to leave their friends behind because of marginal tax rate differences :)

                    • Pete

                      Nice to meet you Gordon Gecko II.Go on then, leave, go to Somalia or Brunei or Singapore. Each of those countries has much lower tax rates than NZ, right now. Bye bye Like I said, hope your kids like changing schools, you can explain to them that they need to leave their friends behind because of marginal tax rate differences

                      You’re still avoiding the argument. I haven’t argued for no tax, or very low tax, like in Brunei. I’m saying that if you impose high taxes, out of whack with our competitors, then your tax take will reduce.

                      Kids are very adaptable. They loved the UK.

                      Again, why don’t you set taxes at, or close to, 100%? Why not ensure everyone is rewarded equally, no matter what they contribute?

                      That is, after all, the logical conclusion of your argument.

                      Else you do support the idea of some having more than others.

                      Just like me.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      I’m all for a 1% to 1.5% p.a. asset tax on each dollar of net worth over $2M.

                      And a 49% (or maybe even 59%) income tax on each dollar earnt over 10x the median income. That would kick in on monies earnt over ~$280,000 p.a.

                      You still here then?

                      Time for you to go to one of those 0% or 20% income tax countries isn’t it? Who knew that they could compete for your children with low tax rates *gufffaw* What a sell out :D

                      .I’m saying that if you impose high taxes, out of whack with our competitors, then your tax take will reduce.

                      Pah, Bill English reduced tax rates and his tax take reduced.

                      I’m game to try it the other way since he has proven you wrong already. From after Nov 26 sounds good.

                      You not moved yet?

                      That is, after all, the logical conclusion of your argument.

                      That is, after all, not. My argument is that those who can afford to pay more without undergoing additional hardship, should. Pretty damn easy mate

                    • Pete

                      I’m all for a 1% to 1.5% p.a. asset tax on each dollar of net worth over $2M. And a 49% (or maybe even 59%) income tax on each dollar earnt over 10x the median income. That would kick in on monies earnt over ~$280,000 p.a. You still here then?

                      Capital would take flight. Your tax take from that group would fall through the floor, and I can’t see the Iwi’s being too happy with it, as a lot of their wealth is tied up in capital that can’t be moved.

                      And the peeps think the price of milk is expensive now!

                      There’s a good reason Dr Cullen didn’t impose such taxes. Even he reaslied there was a fine balancing act involved.

                      Time for you to go to one of those 0% or 20% income tax countries isn’t it? Who knew that they could compete for your children with low tax rates *gufffaw* What a sell out

                      You must compare like with like. Australia is not Somalia. If people are much better off in Australia than New Zealand, it stands to reason more people will choose to live in Australia. If people are marginally better off, it doesn’t make much difference.

                      My argument is that those who can afford to pay more without undergoing additional hardship, should. Pretty damn easy mate

                      Pretty damn simplistic, I feel.

                      Those who can afford to pay more do pay more. But the more you take from people who know how to grow capital, and hand it to those who waste it, having first churned it through government, the lower you force everyone’s standard of living.

                      Else why not set taxes at 100%? If the government knows best, let them allocate everything.

                      PS: Your argument appears to rely on the notion that anyone who is wealthy stole it off others, as opposed to what typically happens – they simply created more value.

                      Not all of course, some “stole it”. Just like some poor people are poor because they make terrible decisions.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      as opposed to what typically happens – they simply created more value.

                      Oh rubbish, more value for whom? Banks taking profits at the rate of $50M per week to “create more value” for Australian shareholders?

                      Hotchins and SCF “creating more value” for NZ shareholders and investors?

                      AMI “creating more value” by under-reinsuring?

                      Fisher and Paykel ‘creating more value” by firing skilled NZ workers and hiring Mexicans and Thais?

                      You creating “more value” by flipping property and loading NZ up with more foreign sourced mortgage debt?

                      Yeah your idea of “creating value” is shite.

                      Capital would take flight. Your tax take from that group would fall through the floor, and I can’t see the Iwi’s being too happy with it, as a lot of their wealth is tied up in capital that can’t be moved.

                      That’s why the Maori Party does so well amongst the moneytocracy. Why don’t you give them some investment advice then if you think they will struggle to pay a 1% asset tax, why with your promised returns of 30% p.a. per year it should be easy as, right?

                      Let capital flap its wings and fly away, and you can move to low tax Somalia, Singapore, Brunei or HK with it. I advise you to follow the money and go. Not afraid of your arguments as you simply advocate a race to the bottom where the only winners are those who are already rich.

                      BTW at the last Government debt auction a record amount of foreign capital wanted in to NZ and ASAP, so I personally think we’ll do OK when you send yours overseas and you follow it.

                      What, you still here? Tell your kids to pack their shit up, Daddy’s moving to a country with lower marginal taxes.

                    • Pete

                      Hotchins and SCF “creating more value” for NZ shareholders and investors?

                      They didn’t, which is why they went belly up. I didn’t agree with the bailouts.

                      AMI “creating more value” by under-reinsuring?

                      Again, fail.

                      They aren’t wealthy. They’re crying poor.

                      Fisher and Paykel ‘creating more value” by firing skilled NZ workers and hiring Mexicans and Thais?

                      Yes. Why on earth do New Zealander’s want to compete for low-level manufacturing jobs, anyway?

                      Let capital take flight, you can move to low tax Somalia, Singapore, Brunei or HK with it. I advise you to follow the money and go. Not afraid of your arguments as you simply advocate a race to the bottom where the only winners are those which are already rich.

                      I’ve answered your point, many times. You should have the intellectual honesty to not keep repeating it. Compare like with like. No matter how low the tax rate, I’m not moving to Somalia. However, if Australia taxes me half what NZ taxes me, then the move is an easy one. As it would be for a lot of people.

                      You want high taxes on people over 280K per year. How many people qualify? At 59%, that makes a good accountant even more valuable, wouldn’t you say?

                      The only people paying your tax would be the people at the top of government departments.

                      A handful.

                      What, you still here? Tell your kids to pack their shit up, Daddy’s moving to a country with lower marginal taxes.

                      What if the tax rate was 100%? How many would still be here, apart from Bradford, Minto and their clueless band of ******’s.

                • Chills

                  “It’s about thresholds. You go over them, and people – and business – leave.”

                  Yeah, current government is doing a great job in crossing that threshold, people leaving in NZ in droves due to their management of the economy. I would say “incompetent” management but we all know that the Key government is following the standard National party formula of channeling wealth to their cronies, and doing a pretty good job of it.

                  • Pete

                    Yeah, current government is doing a great job in crossing that threshold, people leaving in NZ in droves due to their management of the economy. I would say “incompetent” management but we all know that the Key government is following the standard National party formula of channeling wealth to their cronies, and doing a pretty good job of it.

                    No one left for Australia under Helen, of course.

                    There wasn’t even a recession then.

        • rosy 26.1.1.2

          The idea is to have an international agreement. many, many people around the world are advocating or investigating the logistics of a FTT.

          Economists are notorious for not being able to agree on anything. But today, a thousand economists from 53 countries have written to G20 finance ministers and Bill Gates calling on them to introduce financial transaction taxes to tackle global poverty and climate change and help people hit by the economic crisis…

          As agreed by the European Council in June 2010, the introduction of a global financial transaction tax should be explored and developed further. The European Council notes the intention of the Commission to make a report on taxation of the financial sector by autumn 2011 at the latest

  27. PaulL 27

    Yeah, a link from a comment in the Kiwiblog thread is how I got here, I’d guess that’s how many right wingers turned up.

    Seriously, surely some of you can see that these policies are a bit nuts? And that this heavy union involvement, with policies that are to the left of Labour, is likely to cannabilise votes from the Greens. The Greens don’t have an electorate safety net, so surely support for this new party puts the Greens at risk? Don’t get me wrong, from where I sit on the political spectrum that would be a great thing, I’m just surprised that nobody from the left is pointing it out.

    • Outofbed 27.1

      Nah won’t hurt the Greens too much
      They [the greens]are all middle class Lefties or environmentalists, not sure they have too much to do with the great unwashed.or would even recognise one if they saw them :-)
      Be good if they can spend a bit more time on environmental issues [grab the Blue Green vote]and leave the social justice policies to a true leftie party.
      Sound good to me
      It seems we have [with some predictions] :-)

      MANA: Far left 6%
      Green: Environmental/left 7%
      Maori: Maori 3%
      Labour: Centrist/right 28%
      NZF Centrist/right 5%
      National Centrist/right 35%
      Act: Far Right 10%

      Something for everyone!!

      • The Baron 27.1.1

        Christ, what a horrible parliament that would be.
        These vote share predictions are even more comical and amateurish than Mike’s original letter, and say more about your political fantasies than anything likely come November.

      • PaulL 27.1.2

        Heh. Only 13% of NZers are left wing. Reminds me of some on Kiwiblog who insist that National is a left wing party, and only ACT are right enough to maybe qualify as the centre. I usually choose to define the centre as being the mid-point voter. So by that definition Labour are left, National right, NZ First would be centre.

  28. Logical 28

    Maybe they were to busy working to not post until now. Of course they may be wealthy, which according to Hone, doesn’t make them people. It makes them something that must be driven out of this country, hard working folks who have achieved.

    • Colonial Viper 28.1

      LOLZ

      let’s go through this shall we?

      Of course they may be wealthy, which according to Hone, doesn’t make them people (1). It makes them something that must be driven out of this country (2), hard working folks who have achieved (3).

      1) The wealthy are people, except for the ones who gained their wealth by stealing from the rest of us and impoverishing future generations of NZ to foreign ownership. Those ones are borderline.

      2) We don’t need to drive those people out of the country, they run out of the country with our assets. Fay and Richwhite in Switzerland for instance.

      3) Hard working folks don’t get rich. They work 50 hours a week on the minimum wage and can barely afford to feed and house their families. But you don’t give a shit about that, as long as they are generating ROI for the owners of capital, yeah?

      • The Baron 28.1.1

        Oh so Fay and Richwhite are reasonable proxies for all those people you want to pay all these wonderful new taxes then? Oh ok – so it applies to at most, what, 100 nzers? Wow, that’ll really fund all these dreams of yours.
        Unless you mean, as usual, that these wonderful new taxes are meant for everyone worth over $100k. In which case your F&R example is the same horseshit as usual.
        How about you try designing policies around the real people of New Zealand, rather than these caricatures? Oh – cos it’s harder that way? Thought so.

        • bbfloyd 28.1.1.1

          TB..Is this the sort of rubbish that gets aired on kiwiblog? what sort of site is it? an online school for advanced bitchery?

  29. Daniel Miles 29

    Fair enough. It’s probably good that there is a party in New Zealand offering this vision – after all, we have the ACT party, it only seems right that we would have their economic opposite.

    Having said that, I’d question the appropriateness of Mike Treen of Unite Union (Or Matt McCarten) advertising on any sort of tax policy when their union is known to have not paid its own tax bill, and refuses to release the financial statements they are legally obliged to even though they are now six months past the deadline.

    • Colonial Viper 29.1

      Oh a very good subtle knife slipped in at the end there :)

      Anything else you want to share with us to discredit Mana some more? :P

      • Daniel Miles 29.1.1

        As far as I know, Hone Harawira has never failed to pay his tax bill, so I’m not sure that this does discredit the Mana party unless they have Matt McCarten as a candidate.

        As I’ve said many times in various places, the financial statements that Unite filed six months late in May last year showed that they were for all intents and purposes insolvent, and had failed to pay tens of thousands of dollars of tax, including PAYE on the behalf of employees. Their financial statements for 2010 were due, I believe, 31 December 2010 (one month after the AGM where they approved them), and they still haven’t filed them. I won’t speculate on what is in them, but if it shows their unpaid tax liability as even higher than 2009, that’s a very bad look for someone supporting these policies. Or any policies really outside of outright anarchism.

        I’m just not sure people who run organisations that don’t pay tax should have people respect their political opinions. It’s like listening to Terry Serepisos (though I gather even he has cleared the bulk of it).

        • Colonial Viper 29.1.1.1

          Oh shit good job, keep it up mate. Keep turning that knife.

          At least Hone’s not asked for accommodation payouts from the tax payer for living in his own house yeah?

          Now tell us what you know about the Federated Farmers members who somehow all have no taxable income and whether or not they should still be running Federated Farmers :D

          What other diversions do you have to run tonight?

          Let’s see your little script :D

          • The Baron 29.1.1.1.1

            Oh dear, CV rallies against “rich pricks” who don’t pay their fair share of his fictional taxes; but turns a blind eye to unions who ignore the real ones. Smells like hypocrisy to me.
            Shouldn’t everyone have to pay their fair share, CV?

  30. PaulL 30

    Colonial Viper, I’d be fully in favour of a property tax. One of the biggest problems in our current tax system is that we use income as a proxy for wealth. That is to say, the philosophical belief of most that I meet is that “the wealthy should pay a greater share of the tax”, but what we actually do is apply higher tax to those with high income. The two are quite different – the taxable income of the truly rich in NZ is often quite low, and the high income people tend to be middle aged people at the peak of their earnings (but often people who as yet haven’t accumulated a lot of assets – they’ve got a mortgage and kids in school). The truly rich are often retired or otherwise have low income, but might be living in a $3 million house. In that situation, a property tax is pretty hard to avoid – other than by living in a cheaper house.

    Rather than a property tax, I’d make it an assets tax – so it should cover financial assets as well. Financial assets can of course be hidden offshore, but for those that aren’t, why treat them differently than other property. You might need to reduce the income tax a bit to compensate – so if I tax you 0.5% of the money in your bank account each year, I’d probably not also take 33% of your interest, I’d only take about 31.5% of the interest.

    I also have some sympathy for a turnover tax for business (Australia have been looking at this recently for small/medium enterprise). The trick here is that there are a lot of small businesses that have assets and turnover, and that people continue to work at every year. Yet mysteriously they never turn a taxable profit. You’d have to wonder why those people continue to run them……maybe some cash profits out there somewhere? If you apply a turnover or assets tax, it becomes easy to calculate (the business just needs to know how many dollars went through the books this year – any business should know that), and no longer cares whether you make a profit or not. Sure, some marginal small businesses might no longer be viable, but that would only be the ones that truly make no profit every year – in which case you’re doing them a favour. The remainder could stop lying to us about their profits, and just pay the tax on their revenues.

    You’ll probably find many on the right are all in favour of closing loopholes on the rich, as opposed to just pushing up marginal tax rates. The same way that many thinking people on the left realise that people who claim benefits they aren’t entitled to hurt the case for the genuinely needy.

    • Colonial Viper 30.1

      Yeah you are quite right, I did mean “asset tax” to more clearly distinguish it from a “real estate property tax”. Stocks and bonds would be considered assets for instance and be taxable.

      • Herodotus 30.1.1

        CV tax paid on unrealised gains/losses or when the gains/losses are realised i.e. At point of sale?
        There is a huge difference between the 2 and also hard for govts to ascertain when the tax would be paid, also if a property spike if unrealised where do most of us find the $ to pay the tax on our family home?
        If we in isolation had a FTT then how do we atttract money from offshore to fund our deficits be they govt/local bodies/business or private? And how would the tranistion from one to the other be managed and what short term rebalancing would we expect? Great for all these power houses pollys to spout these things, but there is nothing to follow. All that happens is that expectations are rasied well above what can be delivered, and in general it is the real kiwis who suffer. Anyway who are these nebulous rich and what is rich? Just like Lab cannot or will not define middle class no one will define rich

  31. Daniel Miles 31

    I’m really not sure why you think I’m out to discredit Mana – believe me, my political beliefs don’t enter into it. I just think that the activities of Unite are totally unacceptable.

    Like I said, Hone’s never not paid tax as far as I’m aware, so I don’t see any reason why he shouldn’t start the Mana party. I’d just urge him not to have Matt McCarten as a candidate.

    Finally, I don’t have a script sorry, or I’d be able to respond much faster :)

    If it helps, when I noticed this in the Unite financials, I checked the other unions for comparison and I can confirm that it’s only Unite who do this – the EPMU and the CTU for example have impeccable books, so I’m not even criticising the union movement in general.

    Short version: Mana party, fine. Hone Harawira, fine. Unions, fine. Unite union, don’t pay taxes.

    EDIT: @Colonial Viper – sorry, I thought I was putting this in as a reply to your post, I’m not sure why it wound up as its own post. Apologies.

    • Colonial Viper 31.1

      I’m really not sure why you think I’m out to discredit Mana – believe me, my political beliefs don’t enter into it. I just think that the activities of Unite are totally unacceptable.

      You’re commenting on a political blog to discredit MANA and your political beliefs “don’t enter into it.”? Now I’ve heard everything! :)

      So you criticising Fed Farmers and all their non-income declaring members next then?

      Or the way that National used Pansy Wong to raise funds from Mainland China?

      Come on, show us your non-political beliefs by objectively sticking the knife into a few more parties (or their closely aligned supporters) :D

      • Daniel Miles 31.1.1

        I’m not sure whether you’re not reading my posts or just trolling, but reread them. I’m discrediting Unite, not Mana.

        I have to be honest with you, I don’t know enough about federated farmers to comment. It sounds like you do though and I’ll take your word for it. The only opinion I have on the federated farmers is that they clearly need to read up on climate change a lot more.

        I’m confused what you’re saying here – do you think that Unite actually did pay taxes and I’m mistaken? Or do you think that their not paying taxes is not an issue? Because I’m pretty sure that if Matt McCarten did become a Mana candidate then people would use Unite’s financial situation to discredit the party. If you want Mana to be a strong party, then support Hone Harawira, and support Sue Bradford, and support, I don’t know, any other union leader. But they’re better off avoiding McCarten.

        • Colonial Viper 31.1.1.1

          I’m not sure whether you’re not reading my posts or just trolling, but reread them. I’m discrediting Unite, not Mana.

          Yeah lets take down the side supports first before you take down the main act!

          Turn the knife mate, stick it into both Unite and McCarten while you are at it (being non-political and all), a few more discrediting smears and you will have done your job :D

          • Daniel Miles 31.1.1.1.1

            I have absolutely no interest in taking down Mana, and I’m sorry you think so.

            I don’t think that federated farmers are a union per se – at least not in the way that Unite or the EPMU are – so I don’t think they’re really relevant. Having said that, I just had a look at their financials, since you clearly want to talk about it, and I can confirm that the national branch seems to be fine tax-wise. I didn’t read the multitude of local chapters though.

            They also have around $6 million in managed funds sitting round, and a surprisingly low salary expense at around $165k (although there is mentioned later $300k in honorarium, so who knows if that is used to offset salaries to some degree).

            • Colonial Viper 31.1.1.1.1.1

              Daniel Miles you are a real gem keep up the hard work mate.

              (I was talking about how their farmer MEMBERS somehow have next to no declared income to be income taxed mate, even though commodity prices are sky high these days, that’s ok by you is it?)

              I have absolutely no interest in taking down Mana, and I’m sorry you think so.

              well its great that your political views don’t come into it, it’s outstanding to have all these neutral objective parties attacking Matt McCarten, Unite and the new Mana party :)

              • Daniel Miles

                Of course its not OK with me if people are misreporting income or not paying tax that they’re meant to. That’s kind of been my whole point.

            • KJT 31.1.1.1.1.2

              I am still waiting for a farmer who pays taxes to challenge my statement, on several forums, that Federated Farmers members do not pay taxes apart from minimal GST.

              And Federated Farmers are just as much a Union as the Medical Association, The Law Society, Employers and Manufacturers, Maritime Union, Unite, Accountants, IPENZ and the Chambers of Commerce.

              • Daniel Miles

                I think you’re confusing unions with associations. They’re not quite the same thing.

                My understanding – and I may be wrong on this – is that a union exists to represent the interests of its members, which constitute employees and / or contractors in a certain sector.

                And I’m not challenging your statement that “Federated Farmers members do not pay taxes apart from minimal GST”. I don’t know. If you’re right and that’s the case, and they are misreporting income to avoid income tax, that’s totally unacceptable.

                All I’ve said from the start is that Unite have failed to pay taxes, and that represents a significant liability to any party that they attach themselves to. Just like how it was a terrible look for National to align themselves with the Exclusive Brethren, it’d be a terrible look for Mana to align themselves with Unite.

                • fermionic_interference

                  @Daniel Miles

                  “I think you’re confusing unions with associations. They’re not quite the same thing.

                  My understanding – and I may be wrong on this – is that a union exists to represent the interests of its members, which constitute employees and / or contractors in a certain sector.”

                  Federated Farmers acts exactly like the above statement for farmers as well as being a political lobbyist as well as swinging a whole heap of clout with regard to rural opinion on future legislation, and mostly the opinion they push is denial (think water quality and climate change for two examples).

                  • Daniel Miles

                    I thought farmers tended to be owners, not employees or contractors? I don’t know that for sure though.

  32. PaulL 32

    Colonial – on a thread about Mana? Wouldn’t that be well off topic? Are you sure you’re not being just a teeny bit precious here? I thought that Daniel’s comment was pretty mild, you’re definitely coming over as being defensive. All he’s really said is that UNITE have problems paying their own taxes, so they’re not the ideal spokesperson on how other people don’t pay their taxes. It says nothing about whether Federated Farmers or any other group is a great spokesperson for paying taxes, and to do so wouldn’t be relevant.

    • Colonial Viper 32.1

      Oh the sock puppetry!!!!!

      Daniel Miles said he’s not commenting on a political blog to be political – in fact his political views are somehow not relevant to being on a political blog- that doesn’t strike you as a teensy bit strange?

      And of course Fed Farmers comes into it as Daniel Miles contention was that he is looking across all unions equally fairly, without political bias!

      • The Baron 32.1.1

        Wow, the paranoia. Again – what would be gained by subverting the standard in this manner? Is this blog even in the top 5 any more? Why would subversion happen here, and not on the far more popular and credible Dim Post?
        Time to lay off the weed, mate.

        • felix 32.1.1.1

          lol. There are no pros working the blogs in an election year everyone, just go back to what you were doing (probably reading the dim post apparently) and forget whatever you’ve just seen.

          Oh and none of the right-wing blog commenters you regularly see around the place are David Farrar or Cameron Slater under other names, OK? None of them.

          • PaulL 32.1.1.1.1

            Really? I’d believe Cameron Slater maybe, but it’s a pretty long stretch to say that DPF would be posting under other names. I’ve never seen any evidence he’d want to do such a thing. Is it your contention that there are only really 2 people who are right wing in NZ, and everyone else is just a sock puppet? Interesting…….maybe they also vote a lot of times and that’s how National got elected?

            • felix 32.1.1.1.1.1

              No of course not.

              What did I say that could lead any rational person to believe that was my contention, Paul? Is it your contention that I’m a retard? Interesting…

              Also, why do you find it so easy to believe that Cameron would behave thusly but not the other one?

              • PaulL

                I was showing your proposition to be a bit weird by taking it too extremes. Your contention seemed to be that Cameron and DPF needed to have fake identities so as to generate the volume of comments that you see. I have no idea whether you’re a retard, other than from reading your comments. They largely seem grammatically correct, so you clearly cannot be a complete retard.

                As to why I’d maybe believe it of Cameron, but no so DPF. Because Cameron is (in the kindest possible way) a nut job so it is possible believable. I’ve met DPF personally and he struck me as a very principled guy. My opinion. What reason do you have for thinking that he’d have multiple identities he was posting under? Seems that you’re the one making the assertion, so you must have some reason for believing it. The simpler explanation, that there are a number of people who were interested enough to click on a link in a thread on kiwiblog (not even a link posted by DPF), and then had something to say about it, seems a more logical explanation to me.

                • felix

                  “Your contention seemed to be that Cameron and DPF needed to have fake identities so as to generate the volume of comments that you see.”

                  I think it’s about time you stopped putting words in my mouth, fucko. Show me where I said any such thing.

                  As for Farrar and Slater, I never mentioned anything about their personal natures. I’m talking about how they operate politically, and in that context they’re very, very similar animals.

                  Do a rudimentary analysis of the content of their respective websites (looking beyond their personal style) and tell me what the vast differences between them are.

                  Or not. You could just go back to fighting strawmen and talking bullshit.

                  • PaulL

                    Nice manner you have.

                    You’re telling me that they’re both right wing? I’ll believe that. Don’t see how that relates to your contention that DPF and Cameron are posting under fake identities. Are you backing away from that now?

                    • felix

                      Don’t school me on my manners while you’re attributing statements to me that I never made.

                      Sanctimonious little shitbag.

                    • PaulL

                      Guess I can’t reply direct to you – not sure why.

                      Try this quote:
                      “Oh and none of the right-wing blog commenters you regularly see around the place are David Farrar or Cameron Slater under other names, OK? None of them.”

                      Was that you? Or are you going to claim that wasn’t sarcasm? Are you drunk? Or just forgetful? Can you not even remember the start of this discussion?

                    • felix

                      Congratulations.

                      Now compare and contrast with what you’ve been saying I said.

                      (The reason you can’t reply directly is because the comments only nest within each other up to 7 levels or so. But it’s ok, we can carry on vertically all night)

                    • PaulL

                      Yes. The same in fact.

                    • felix

                      Oh sorry Paul, I didn’t realise you were serious.

                      Can you really not see the difference between saying that I think someone uses sockpuppets and saying that if they didn’t there wouldn’t be anywhere near the amount of right-wing comments around?

                      Really?

                      Really Paul?

                      Please tell me you’re just being dishonest and you aren’t really that fucking thick.

                    • PaulL

                      No, you’re picking one line that was pretty clearly not a quote, and getting your panties in a knot over it.

                      I clearly said that I disagreed when you said that DPF had additional identities he posted under. That was clearly something that I claimed you said.

                      I then extrapolated, since you’d provided no evidence at all as to why you thought that was the case, or why that might be something they’d want to do. I presumed (and clearly noted that I was presuming it) that you might be suggesting that because you thought there were a lot of right wing comments around. I asked you whether that was what you meant, since you were declining to actually engage, being rude, and providing no explanation as to why you thought DPF had extra identities. Something you’re still ducking by the way.

                      Care to elaborate yet as to why exactly you think that DPF (and Cameron for that matter) have multiple identities that they post under. It’s clearly not based on the volume of the comments, since you’re all bent that I asked whether that was your rationale. So what is it? Or do you prefer to stick to abuse and not answering the question? I answered your question as to why I thought it unlikely.

                    • felix

                      Ah, so it’s just dishonesty then. That’s good, I’d rather waste my time with a liar than a moron.

                      This is what you said:

                      Your contention seemed to be that Cameron and DPF needed to have fake identities so as to generate the volume of comments that you see.”

                      But it wasn’t, and nothing I actually said could possibly be construed to mean that.

                      Try to separate my comments from your assumptions FFS.

                    • PaulL

                      “Your contention seemed to be”

                      Is that not a pretty clear indication that I’m not quoting you. That I’m trying to interpret what you’re saying. Really, go read it again. It’s pretty obvious. You’re wilfully misinterpreting what I said, and getting excited about it. That’s why my comment that “I didn’t know I needed academic level of citation”.

                      Anyway, the stupid wedding’s over, so the missus says we can go to bed. Enjoy your evening.

                    • felix

                      This is probably pointless now that you’ve been banned, but anyway…

                      No I don’t mean they’re similar in their political leanings. That’s like saying they’re similar because they’re both bipeds.

                      I said they have similar ways of operating.

                      That’s a fairly straightforward statement and you’ve twice now tried to impose two quite different meanings on it, first that I meant they were personally alike and second that I meant they shared political views.

                      I meant neither of those things and I said neither of them. I’m just addressing this because it’s another example of what you’ve been doing all night, superimposing alternate meanings on things I’ve said and pretending I had anything to do with them.

                      Anyway whatever. Goodnight and don’t dream of lizard people, whatever you do.

                    • lprent []

                      He only got a educational ban for a week for reframing. You will be able to play with your food later.

                    • PeteG

                      Ironic in an exchange with felix the reframer.

            • lprent 32.1.1.1.1.2

              I’d agree. I haven’t seen any particular evidence of them having sock puppets here. There are a couple of people that I think may be puppets. But I keep an eye on people trying to do any type of astroturfing…

              But if people want to sock-puppet without astro turfing then I don’t care much.

  33. NickS 33

    • We should nationalise monopolies and duopolies.

    For infrastructure? Plausible and relatively easy to pull off and in the case of Telecom and merging the power SOE’s back into one entity a bloody smart idea. Commodities like milk products on the other hand has serious problems, primarily due to the high levels of debt dairy farmers have straddled themselves with, which they need high milk prices in order to effectively service, and creates strong incentives for selling milk on the global market. About the only way I can see that doesn’t involve nationalising Fonterra or enacting laws to make them provide domestic milk cheaper is a long term public campaign that highlights Fonterra’s inability to see past it’s profit margins and how that impacts on the health of kiwis.

    Though given the EU’s moves towards carbon taxes, and China’s slow lurching towards dealing with climate change etc there is the future potential for international markets to price NZ milk out of the market. There’s also anti-monopoly laws to consider, as Fonterra has become effectively the only actor on the national stage, along with the duopoly of Foodstuffs and Progressive which contributes to the high food costs.

    • New Zealand needs a planned economy that makes job creation its main emphasis rather than leaves it to the non-existent free market. “Given the short time I’ve had to respond to this I apologise if I haven’t covered everything you’d like. But my response should give you some comfort to where our new party will position itself politically.

    This really needs to be expanded, as the command economy of the USSR and other communist states (and deformed workers states like NK) is highly inefficient unless (hypothetically) it’s got up to the minute management. So the question is, are we talking something similar to the Scandinavian countries which have strong regulation and high corporate taxes or a myriad of other possible options?

    And besides all that, any plans need to be flexible enough to deal with fuck ups, natural disasters and political stupidity.

    Then there’s dealing with economists, i.e. a strong evidence based argument is going to be needed, both as a rallying point, but also a means with which to deal with the expert counter-claims.

    • PaulL 33.1

      Think you have cause and effect wrong here on milk prices. The high international prices have enabled dairy farmers to saddle themselves with huge debts. More to the point, only the marginal dairy farmers (the ones who just completed a recent dairy conversion) are saddled with these debts. The ones who’ve been around for longer are largely sitting on massive capital gains and making a mozza since they have little debt (they bought their farms when they were cheap).

      In short – the high international prices are the problem, and very little that we can do here in NZ can change that. It’s virtually impossible to pass a law that requires people to sell cheaper on the national market than the international without people just stopping supplying the national market – certainly for the new entrants they’d be making a loss, which would be a problem for them. You could prevent people from exporting to try to deal with that, but that would kind of destroy NZ’s balance of trade, and pretty much the only remaining industry that we’re competitive in.

    • KJT 33.2

      A totally planned economy is unworkable as we know, but an economy with no planning apart from “leave it to the market”, deregulate and cut taxes has also failed as we all well know.

      Sensible mixed economies with Democratic Government, natural monopolies and essential infrastructure in State control, with private business properly regulated to control externalities, who have used a portion of State help for local business, are still working well.

      No businessman leaves the future of his business to “let the market decide”.

  34. PaulL 34

    Heh. The conspiracy theories you’re coming up with are pretty good. I don’t think it qualifies as sock puppetry – at least the way wikipedia defines it, but I realise it makes it easier for you to ignore Daniel if you label it as such. I don’t think Daniel’s claimed to be a rabid lefty. He’s just said that UNITE have skeletons. I’d say that your response of “but look over here, what about these people” is the comment that falls into more internet stereotypes than his original.

    • Colonial Viper 34.1

      which conspiracy theory? That people are out to discredit the backers of MANA from the outset?

      Uh…I thought conspiracies were secret, this is obvious.

      • PaulL 34.1.1

        The sock puppet conspiracy theory, the theory that there is some script that some VRWC has issued to people to come and mock you with. The bit where a bunch of people think the Mana party are whack jobs is, as you say, pretty obvious, but surely even you can see that they’re looking absolutely tops at maybe 5% of the vote – and a good proportion of the remaining 95% of NZers would see them as whack jobs. So no real conspiracy involved, just stating the obvious.

        • felix 34.1.1.1

          Ah, the conspiracy theory you just made up.

          Why didn’t you say so? It would’ve saved me a lot of time trying to figure out what the fuck your point was.

          • PaulL 34.1.1.1.1

            No, the one I quoted from your comments. I guess that’s like making it up.

            • felix 34.1.1.1.1.1

              Show me where you quoted from my comments, dickhead.

              • PaulL

                Rude, aren’t you. Sorry, was quoting Colonial Viper – you lefties all look alike to me :-). He clearly stated sock puppets, and clearly stated scripts.

                [lprent: Rude? No he wasn't - read the policy you sanctimonious pillock. If you want to attract my attention and see some true 'rudeness' then carry on in the same fashion. You look like a minor match user, and the moderators set the limits on behavior - not you ]

                • felix

                  Whatever. You haven’t “quoted” anyone.

                • PaulL

                  OK, try this.

                  “Oh the sock puppetry” Colonial Viper @ 6:16PM

                  “What other diversions do you have to run tonight?

                  Let’s see your little script :D ” Colonial Viper @ 5:48PM

                  Notice the quote marks. That would indicate to you that I’m quoting. Both sock puppets, and the suggestion there is a script, are conspiracy theories. Is this really the standard of argument you can bring – to deny what is in writing earlier on this same thread? Amazing.

                  • felix

                    Here we go again.

                    I’m not asking for academic standards of referencing when I ask you not to fucking say that I’ve written something that I fucking haven’t.

                    What sort of places do you usually comment where that’s acceptable?

                    Oh that’s right.

                • felix

                  That’s the first time I’ve seen you quote anyone. Well done.

                  Do you not understand why I don’t like you attributing your own theories and remarks to me, Paul?

                  Do you not understand that when you take a simple statement and fill it with brand new assertions and claim that’s what was originally said it’s kind of like lying?

                  Do you not realise that’s what you’ve been doing tonight?

                • PaulL

                  Obviously not, felix. I don’t think that’s what I’ve been doing at all, and I wasn’t aware that this site required fully cited quotes in the way an academic paper would. I believe that it’s been abundantly clear at each step exactly what I’m claiming someone said, and what I’m extrapolating or asking questions on.

                  Are you really incapable of discerning the difference?

                  [lprent: If you want to make an assertion of fact (not opinion), and people call you on it, then it is likely that I will require you to link to something to support it or to state that it is opinion or to suffer a ban. This encourages people not to simply make crap up.

                  Attempting to reframe what others are saying does require quoting to show that they did say it. And yes you have been doing it.

                  A weeks ban because you have been displaying a number of really stupid troll commenting traits and I can't be bothered giving a warning which I suspect that you will ignore. ]

                • PaulL

                  Untidy thread, I’ll reply here.

                  Show me where I “fucking [said] that [you'd] written something that [you] fucking [didn't].”

                  Seriously, go back and read it. You’re getting all bent over something that didn’t happen. Except for the one thing that I did, and admitted when you pointed it out, where I attributed something to you instead of Colonial Viper by accident – I saw the response and assumed it was the same person I was already engaging with, and it wasn’t. I already apologised for that one, so if that’s all you’ve got, then you need to get a grip.

        • KJT 34.1.1.2

          ACT are wack jobs and NACT are theives. Whats your point.

    • PeteG 34.2

      The conspiracy theories you’re coming up with are pretty good.

      Don Brash is really behind the Mana party – it’s designed to make Act look less radical.

  35. JD 35

    Hone (Nationalism)
    + Bradford (Socialism)
    = National Socialism

    • felix 35.1

      That’s funny. Really, I mean it.

      Why don’t you do one about some far-right politicians so it’s actually relevant from a policy/ideological standpoint rather than just an amusing word-game.

      I’ll even give you the first one to get you started: National.

      • JD 35.1.1

        I love the symmetry of the left simultaneously relying on a racist mana party party and a Asian- hating nationalist pakeha party as their main hope for winning the next election.

        How is that for amusing.

        • felix 35.1.1.1

          Apparently you don’t know much about Don Brash’s views on race relations then.

          • JD 35.1.1.1.1

            Just as you are conveniently ignoring Winston Peters views on race.

            Is it self-delusion or are you so desperate for Labour to come to power that you’d abandon all principle, bend over and grit your teeth for the possibility. You sad little fucko.

            • Draco T Bastard 35.1.1.1.1.1

              What are Winstons views on race? I know he’s against immigration but haven’t heard anything from him on race per se.

            • felix 35.1.1.1.1.2

              Like Draco, I have no idea whether Winston is a racist.

              And I don’t care, because I don’t vote for him.

              And I don’t care how that tenuously links to Labour because I don’t vote for them either.

              Fuck there are some delusional righties around tonight.

    • felix 36.1

      I don’t know, I thought it was very interesting that they went to such effort to point out that John Key and Don Brash were both trying to read very specific lines they’d been given (by who?) to answer very straightforward questions.

  36. Carol 37

    And the Mana Party will be making significant use of the Internet & Social Networking:

    http://news.tangatawhenua.com/archives/11609

    As a way to share the day with an even greater number of people around the world, Facebook and Twitter feeds will be running live from Te Mahurehure Marae in Auckland, where the launch is being held.

    On Hone’s Facebook page it was announced that the launch will be internet friendly with a new website to be made live as well as a new Party Facebook page. TangataWhenua.com also understands that the Party logo will be released. For those wanting to join the Twitter craze, #mana and #maori will be the tags on the day with access to a live Twitter feed on the Party’s new website.

  37. Berend de Boer 38

    And we on the right have only ACT, which is a wuzzy party as far as right goes! Where is the party that only wants to confer voting rights to property owners or people with positive bank accounts?

  38. hobbit 39

    You’ve got to be fcuking kidding me! bahaha….

  39. What I find most disturbing about neo-liberals is their inability to grasp some pretty basic concepts, the most obvious being that in a closed system with finite resources there is no such thing as ‘more’ forever – they don’t seem to understand what ‘enough’ means.

    The most under utilised, yet most ruthlessly abused resource, this country possesses is its population. That people like Hone Harawira, John Minto, Sue Bradford, Matt McCarten and their ilk earnestly demonstrate the belief that all people have value, beyond the amount of financial capital that can be squeezed out of them, is a credit to them.

    I will definitely be voting for these people in the next election and for the first time ever (I’m 42) I will be joining/becoming a financial member of a political party.

  40. HC 41

    Is this it???

    Well with having read what Mike Treen has written to us above, I am dismayed about the situation on the left!

    This is only half thought out, lacks sufficient direction and looks like a “patchwork” party that is bound to fail for many reasons.

    a) “The Mana Party is determined to continue to be the voice of the majority of ordinary Maori and at the same time give voice to the excluded majority across our land – whatever their national or ethnic origin.”

    This will be the biggest challenge for a “Mana” party to handle. On one hand it is supposed to be a party for the disaffected, disenfranchised and neglected Maori voters, who lost faith in the Maori Party, and on the other hand the party is supposed to give voice to the “excluded majority across our land – whether their national or ethnic origin.”

    What is that supposed to mean? We live in a de facto “multi cultural society” now that is at the same time upholding some principles based on ‘Te Tiriti o Waitangi’.

    Do the interests of new migrants (often professionals, business people and entrepreneurs from all kinds of countries and cultures) have sufficient in common with the disenfranchised Maori and Pakeha people? I see potential for conflict here. There is the likely prospect of marginalisation of the planned party, which is so far made up of only “activist” supporters and former politicians that have been members of various small parties before.

    Questions will arise as to “how much pro Maori” can the party be, and how much can it include the interest of the rest of the population (Pakeha, Pasifika, Asian and other migrants).

    b) “Mana will be anti neo-liberal, against monopoly capitalism and against privatisation of the people’s assets. Utilities such as water, power, roading etc should be in the hands of the people rather than a guaranteed money making venture for corporations“

    The party is probably going to get some support for bringing key infrastructure networks like roads, rail lines, possibly telephone and internet lines and transmitters, water supplies, maybe even electricity generation and retail back into public ownership. But going further than that will get very tricky.

    Yes, an Auckland Council could be re-shaped by bringing the various services under public ownership and management, but what about ports, airports, dairy factories, meat works and other key strategic operations? I can hardly see that going ahead in the nearby future, and then the question will be: How efficiently and successfully will such operations be run?

    I read the mention “against monopoly capitalism”, which does not cover small and medium size enterprises. So some clarification re this is necessary and will be welcome.

    c) “We will want to abolish GST with sometime like a financial transaction tax (we’d like to call it the Hone Heke Tax)”

    The idea of a financial transaction tax is reasonable and makes sense. Yet I do not believe that abolishing GST on all goods will be realistic. To make up for that lost revenue the government would have to introduce a whole range of other taxes, which is being implied in the letter.

    I think that a two tier GST system is the best. Have a lower GST rate on essential basic living expenses like most groceries, clothing, books, stationery, bus fares and the likes, but maintain higher GST on goods that are not necessarily “essential” for day to day survival.

    Nicknaming a planned tax “Hone Heke Tax” may appeal to some, but it will equally turn others off as well.

    d) “KiwiSaver is privatisation of our pensions so increasing the money we give to these financial institutions to do what they want needs more thought. “

    Indeed there should be stricter guidelines and minimum capital or cash asset requirements for all financial institutions. That is to safeguard such savings, which should be compulsory for all employees. We need to create more savings that enable NZ to have capital for investment in local enterprises that can generate exports and deliver services locally and for tourism and education of foreign students. We need above all more investment in science, education and value added manufacturing here, rather than export logs, blocks of cheese, milk powder and the likes.

    e) “We should nationalise monopolies and duopolies.“

    This gets interesting and will get stiff opposition from the business sectors that own these. I fear that also many voters are too indifferent about this, because changing the status quo in such a radical way leads to uncertainties, which most people fear.

    I would think that a better way may be to simply bring in stricter laws, regulations and guidelines for businesses abusing their market power and ignoring consumer interests, so that they can be forced to act in “the national interest” (i.e. offering cheaper milk, produce and essentials to NZers by not charging “world market prices”).

    Otherwise it remains to be seen what kind of “monopolies” could realistically and practically be “nationalised”.

    f) “New Zealand needs a planned economy that makes job creation its main emphasis rather than leaves it to the non-existent free market.”

    So there is no existing free market in NZ?

    I must disagree and argue instead that there is a “sort of free market”, but it is a “limited free market” here, which is largely due to the small size of the economy.

    Job creation is justified in certain areas, but having a totally “planned economy” risks going down the track that the Soviet Union, Cuba and other supposedly “socialist” countries went down. We know where that led to.

    To “plan” a market efficiently and effectively to deliver the goods and services needed may be possible, but it would require expert planners who could predict trends in not only normal economic development, but also prepare for national disasters, climatic changes, risks dependent on developments beyond national control. That is near impossible though.

    Only if NZ would be part of a wider global group of countries that could complement each other by exchanging needed goods and services – and that uphold similar standards in employment, health, safety, environmental protection, social welfare, health and the like – then may this planning work. It will not work if we engage in such a socio-economic experiment on our own, while oil prices, needed other commodities and manufactured investment goods and so forth are produced overseas under completely different conditions.

    So my conclusion is that this party lacks sufficient design, sufficient direction, sufficient practical planning, a thoroughly researched economic alternative and relies on the support of the old left and activist network that is rather marginalised in our present society.

    I wish I could put my hope and trust in Mana, but I need to see more being developed and a proper party policy developed before I would seriously give this party my vote.

    Looking at this, the Greens look to be the better alternative to me.

    Sorry to spoil your day, dear enthused supporters.

    • PeteG 41.1

      There seems to be something in common with the old Act and the new Mana parties – vague attempted populist waffle. And too many assumptions.

      Claiming “to be the voice of the majority” of any group is presumptuous, a party can only be the voice of it’s leaders and members and leave it up to the rest to make their own decisions.

      What the heck is “the excluded majority across our land”?

      The sort of policies proposed here are unlikely to appeal to many beyond a fringe of wishful thinking idealists. I guess their policies themselves aren’t important, small splinter parties are going to struggle to get seats let alone get anywhere near getting any of their policies accepted by the governing coalition.

      I think the Mana Party will survive or fail because of personalities – a bunch of cause junkies may have trouble being a cohesive force. Maybe that won’t matter to likely supporters.

      Being deluded about how they will be perceived won’t help.

      John Minto: “I see myself very much in the mainstream of New Zealand and I think the people involved in this party – their values are the mainstream values of New Zealand.”

      I wonder what Labour’s position will be on going in to coalition with these “mainstreamers”.

      • Colonial Viper 41.1.1

        Interesting thing is that Mana is not looking for your support, nor support from centrist middle class property owning white NZ (whom we know currently heavily favour National, and its safe to bet would never vote Harawira in a lifetime).

        Mana is engaging a completely different element of the electorate. The vast majority of people in NZ, the ones who earn under the median wage of $40K p.a., the same ones who are more likely to be Maori and P.I.

        So your analysis from the standpoint of normal political punditry is pretty much irrelevant.

  41. Carol 42

    Some good discussion points, HC. I will be waiting to see how the party develops but do like the initial general statements of direction and intent.

    This will be the biggest challenge for a “Mana” party to handle. On one hand it is supposed to be a party for the disaffected, disenfranchised and neglected Maori voters, who lost faith in the Maori Party, and on the other hand the party is supposed to give voice to the “excluded majority across our land – whether their national or ethnic origin.”

    What is that supposed to mean? We live in a de facto “multi cultural society” now that is at the same time upholding some principles based on ‘Te Tiriti o Waitangi’.

    To me this part of the Mana statement, is the direct opposite to the Act approach. Act professes to be for all people who adopt their neoliberal primciples, but, it is actually a party lead by well-off white people and re-inscribes white privilege – this is the result of refusing to accpet that it is not a level playing field to start with. And with Don Don that get the added racially divisive dog whistles.

    Hone Heke tax

    I actually thought this is a quite clever hat tip to re-working socialist principles with a Maori face (and a Kiw one) – ie such a tax is often referred to as a Robin Hood tax.

    Of course, at this stage, the Mana party still needs much developmental work. I’m hopeful, but reserve final judgment til I see how it develops, and think its good they’ve good a core of committed followers & forward momentum.

    Also Bradford seems to have some reservations, while being supportive, so I watch with interest whether she will fully commit.

  42. Mana Party is very exciting. Bolivia has an indigenous eco socialist president. Aotearoa has Annette Sykes, Metiria Turei, Hone Harawira and Matt McCarten. The left is finanally getting some new blood and initiatives, as the same time that the right gets Brash back. He is 70… old enough to vote for Winston. Pensionor Brash is all about the PPPs… privatisation, prejudice and pollution.

    I look forward to the development of the Mana Party this year and over next year. I wonder if David Parker would work well with the green and mana parties if he becomes labour’s next leader. Cuniliff would make a good finance minister, Charles Chauvel a good climate minister and Metiria a good conservation minister.

    2011 is going to be exciting.

  43. ‎”I want this movement to be a movement that puts an end to the sale of state assets” – Hone @ the party launch.

  44. Herodotus 45

    Can someone help me.
    If we remove all gst, those marginal wealthy (those who own “part” of a family home) will see the majority of their wealth destoryed. As property should decrease by about 13.0%. So someone who has just purchased an avergae home for $500k in Ak, now sees their home worth $434k. they still own the bank the same? Not so bad it it is debt free, but say with a 75% morgage there still is $375k owing to the bank. More destruction to NZ than any recesion ;-(
    Now in this instance if there is capital gains how long will it take for this said property to appreciate to a stage that there is a gain?
    How long will it take for this tax to be paid and what happens to capital losses?
    At least with GST it is relativel constant and there is min time lags in the tax take.
    Also where is the maths to calc what the tax swap would achieve? Just a little fine print missing

    • Colonial Viper 45.1

      Pretty sure there is no GST component to rent and to private residential housing, just like there is none on financial services (so far).

      • Herodotus 45.1.1

        You by a house of a builder there is GST to that. the cost of a new house has a determinate influence to all other houses.
        So CV when you buy a new house or a section from a developer is there GST on it? You bet !!!
        You are right there is none relating to rentals

        • Colonial Viper 45.1.1.1

          Oh yes I see, however your first post talked about GST destroying the wealth of a family who already part owned a home.

          • Herodotus 45.1.1.1.1

            removal of GST still destroys value. Try this example. GSt removed 1st April.
            Buy new house 31st March $100k+ GSt = $115k.
            Buy the same house 1st Apr cost is $100k. What does that do on the 1st Apr to all those houses purchased at an ealier time? they all go down by $15k. You have a morgage of $100k, now you had previously a net worth of $15k now you have nothing, worse if your equity was less than $15 before then you are left with negative net worth. There is a domino effect then created by the fact that new houses are now worth less to purchase than to buy an existing house.
            I hope that helps ;-)
            p.s.when GST was raised a few months ago, as the market was depressed the builder/land developer bore the added cost, as in this case property was not worth 2.22% more with the raise of GST. The property was worth the same the day GSt was 12.5% and the next day when it was 15% :-(

    • Daveosaurus 45.2

      Since when has anyone had to pay GST when they sell their family home?

      • PeteG 45.2.1

        They don’t, they pay GST when they build.

        Another problem with removing GST – it would have to be an announced policy with a future date to become effective. What will that do to Sales? As much as possible people will defer buying until the GST comes off, this would have a major effect on retail business and employment.

        And another problem – what happens with GST already paid on products that are later sold with no GST? GST costs can be incurred months or years prior to the end product being sold (like a house).

        • felix 45.2.1.1

          Could always take it down in increments to smooth out the deferred spending issue. Perhaps drop 2.5% every 2 years, all done in just over a decade.

          After all, 2 govts have increased it by that amount without totally destroying the economy so as long as the changes are well gazetted they should be manageable.

          • Herodotus 45.2.1.1.1

            So those with nothing, after the gst still have nothing, those who have a huge morgage now have less than nothing, those with a little have nothing, those with alot (Hitchens) still have alot. So the party that espouses to help the poor, make then poorer and those with alot still have their fortune !!!
            With some time I would hate to think of all the other unforseen consequences of this.
            And Felix if progessively reduce it still ends up with the same result. those with little equity have it destoryed, and hitchens $30m property is now worth $26m Still a filthy amount, so no solution, or have I missed something, Hone has !!!

  45. Where is the MANA?

    The much touted Financial Transaction Tax being touted by Hone Harawira and the MANA Party was originally adapted by me for the party known as DDP in 2004 for the General Elections in 2005. Now I have carried that policy into OURNZ Party which is going through its formal registration process.

    Thinking it was a great idea to unite as many minor parties that had areas of agreement, I approached Hone Harawira via relations of his. He called me and basically stated that before any meeting took place I was to do two things for him 1) send him the OURNZ Party policies (available on our temporary website at http://www.ournz.net.nz) to see if there were areas we could agree and 2) have Mike Tamaki call him. This was done and from that point to this, I have not had any other contact.

    His application of the Transaction Tax is not appropriate and will in fact raise prices, not lower them. The following is the 1% Financial Transaction Tax as it should be implemented:

    Policy 3 Taxation

    The simple fact is, before Government debt, there was no taxation (except of course that which Monarch levied against people to satisfy their indebtedness to the Banksters – same thing different day). The idea that a Government can demand a large portion of your wealth every year because it was stupid enough to allow “money changers” to get it into a cycle of irredeemable debt and therefore control the economy in all aspects is nothing short of criminal.

    The adopted model of taxation in New Zealand is nothing more than a dysfunctional rout imported from other nations at the behest of the financial institutions that dictate government policies. A fundamentally flawed ideology that taxation decreases a nation’s debt and helps to pay for government expenditure could not be further from the truth!

    New Zealand current company and personal taxation rates are far too high, meaning that companies are at a disadvantage when trying to compete with other countries for foreign investment and business on the world stage. In fact the taxation rates are too high and a hindrance to real growth period!

    OURNZ Party Solution:

    A 1% Transaction Tax on all outgoing financial transactions (i.e. when you draw $500.00 from your account, you pay 1% or $5.00); This Transaction Tax will replace GST, Income Tax, Company Tax, Provisional Tax, Petrol Tax and ALL other taxes including the many “hidden” taxes.

    The simplicity of this taxation system is incredible; software programmed into New Zealand Reserve Bank’s electronic clearing system will achieve the desired results;

    1. Every hour of the day money is withdrawn from savings accounts, cheque accounts, insurance companies, business and investment organisations, and financial institutions of all kinds. Indeed, ALL monetary transactions are withdrawn from some type of bank or financial institution that holds money in trust.

    2. New Zealand Reserve Bank electronic clearing system Report will clearly state the average of what is transacted through the banking system EVERY WORKING DAY in ordinary business trading.

    3. Just one simple and moderate Transaction Tax of say for example 1 percent (1%) on all monies transacted, will provide New Zealand Treasury with annual operating revenue sufficient to build upon monetary reforms implemented as described above. This is calculated on 260 working days at the average of total transactions providing a total transacted amount per annum sufficient to address public requirements; this is how we arrive at a revenue generation figure based per annum at just 1% of total transactions made.

    4. It will be sufficient to control any fluctuation in the economy and help pay for the required Government expenditure.

    We propose that the introduction of the Transaction Tax could be seamlessly implemented under the current economic conditions and in conjunction with the Monetary Reforms.

    Some may be of the opinion that by applying a Transaction Tax (and therefore increasing taxation revenue), this would have a negative effect on the economy, as if to diminish its capital value. This is a completely false notion and will, in fact, have a beneficial effect on the economy through its effectiveness in being able to tax the 5% of the people that hold 90% of the wealth through tax avoidance and careful manipulation of the current system – including the banks.

    This solution will bring economic prosperity, major increases in employment and less dependence on the State. It will give people a sense of value and worth, thereby increasing the mental and physical health of people and much more. Most important of all, the Taxation Policy we propose will greatly reduce the strain of workplace relations between management and workers, family violence and discord due to lack of funds and increase the quality of life for all New Zealanders.

    Money was intended as a method by which goods and services are distributed at an agreed value. Money was never meant to be a product/commodity in itself. The solution is not to tax the real wealth of this country (i.e. labour, resources, business enterprise etc), but rather to tax the method by which that wealth is distributed. With no income tax, nor GST to pay, each person will effectively have a discretionary revenue increase (a pay rise).

    “We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle” – Winston Churchill

    As you can see, I know this policy inside out as I was the one that write it in 2004. DDP campaigned on it in 2005 and I still have the leaflet from then to prove it. ALL MP’s were sent a copy of this information between November 2008 and January 2009 when I wrote the document ‘Economic Reform: Monetary System and Taxation’ November 2008.

    So, the only Party that actually understands the application of the policy properly is OURNZ Party and we shall be campaigning on this and other policies this year. We also welcome any and all to join us on the OURNZ Group discussion page on Facebook.

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    Judith Collins sudden memory of briefing the New Zealand Ambassador to China about her dinner with a Chinese border official and her husband's fellow Oravida directors raises further concerns about exactly what was discussed, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. "This...
    Labour | 21-04
  • MP to attend progressive politics conference
    Labour MP Grant Robertson will attend the Progressive Governance conference in Amsterdam later this week. “This conference brings together Social Democratic parties from around the world to discuss how progressive politics should work in the post global financial crisis environment....
    Labour | 20-04
  • Storm fans fire service commitment
    Further damage from the huge storm that battered the West Coast was prevented by the great work of our volunteer Fire Service and locals will be extremely grateful, Labour’s MP for West Coast-Tasman Damien O’Connor says. “Our region has been...
    Labour | 19-04
  • Time for Ryall to fix mistakes and help families
    Families who won a long and lengthy Court battle for financial help to support their disabled daughters and sons are now facing a new battle with health system bureaucracy and need the Health Minister's help, Labour's Disability Issues spokesperson Ruth...
    Labour | 18-04
  • Time for greater ministerial accountability
    The Green Party has today released a proposal to introduce a ministerial disclosure regime in New Zealand to improve the transparency and accountability of government.The proposal, based on the system used in the United Kingdom since 2010, would require all...
    Greens | 18-04
  • Power prices soar on the eve of winter
    On the eve of winter as New Zealanders are turning on their heaters, power prices have soared sky high, Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer says. “Energy Minster Simon Bridges claimed in Parliament that prices were estimated to rise 2.4 per...
    Labour | 18-04
  • Workers can kiss goodbye to Easter Sunday off
    The Government’s decision to “reprioritise” scarce labour inspector resources by abandoning the enforcement of Easter Sunday Shop Trading laws means workers can kiss goodbye to a guaranteed day off, says Labour’s Associate Labour Issues spokesperson Darien Fenton. “The Labour Minister...
    Labour | 18-04
  • Businesses need to respect workers this Easter
    Businesses intent on flouting Easter shopping laws should face stiff penalties, Green Party industrial relations spokesperson Denise Roche said today. This Easter, at least one major garden centre chain intends to open on Good Friday despite this being in breach...
    Greens | 17-04
  • Time to deliver on 26 weeks Paid Parental Leave
    Today marks two years since Labour MP Sue Moroney's Bill extending paid parental leave to 26 weeks was drawn from the members' ballot. “It’s time the Government acted in the interests of families,” Sue Moroney says. “National has tried every...
    Labour | 17-04
  • Taxpayers robbed of $130m in Genesis sale
    Kiwi taxpayers have been robbed of $130 million by the Government in its final failed asset sale, says Labour’s SOEs spokesperson Clayton Cosgrove. “National set the price for Genesis far too low in a desperate attempt to beef up demand....
    Labour | 17-04
  • Work visa problems need monitoring
    The Government is handing out temporary work visas to migrants to work in jobs that could easily be filled by unemployed Kiwi workers in the Christchurch rebuild, says Darien Fenton, Labour’s Associate Immigration spokesperson. “In the past 12 months, temporary...
    Labour | 17-04
  • Resignation rates among cops soar
    The number of frontline officers quitting the police force is at a four-year high, with more than 350 walking off the job in the past year, Labour’s Police spokesperson Jacinda Ardern says. “Since 2009 resignation rates among sworn staff have...
    Labour | 17-04
  • Service for victims of sexual violence pushed out in cold
    The Green Party is calling on Housing New Zealand to revisit its decision to evict an essential community organisation in Christchurch with only eight weeks notice.Yesterday at the Select Committee inquiry into funding for sexual violence support services the organisation...
    Greens | 17-04
  • Legal high ban worthy of wider pick-up
    Auckland Council’s ban on using legal highs in a public place is an excellent idea that should be replicated around New Zealand, says Labour’s Associate Health Spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway. “Auckland Council has implemented a by-law banning the use of psychoactive...
    Labour | 17-04
  • Smith sells state P-houses to first home buyers
    Nick Smith must reassure worried first home buyers that any Housing NZ houses sold under his First Home policy will be tested for P contamination after revelations that three out of seven properties sold in Wanganui tested positive for methamphetamine,...
    Labour | 17-04
  • PM’s China visit assisted Oravida, not Fonterra
    Questions must now be asked whether it was Fonterra or Oravida who really benefited from the Prime Minister’s recent visit to China, Labour’s Primary Industries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Before his departure, John Key said he would wait until all...
    Labour | 16-04
  • New Zealand’s use of ozone depleting gases increases
    A new Government report highlights that the amount of ozone depleting gases New Zealand is using is increasing, the Green Party said today.The report tabled in Parliament yesterday shows that total use of ozone depleting gases in New Zealand has...
    Greens | 16-04
  • Manufacturing Upgrade
    Labour is determined to support and grow our manufacturing sector. These policies grew out of the findings of the 2013 Parliamentary Inquiry into Manufacturing.  ...
    Labour | 16-04
  • Collins must admit misleading Parliament
    ACC Minister Judith Collins must front up and admit she has misled Parliament over ACC’s policy to stop paying compensation to clients who refused to fill in its privacy form, Labour’s ACC spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. “Judith Collins claimed Labour...
    Labour | 16-04
  • English confirms he has no plan to raise wages
    Finance Minister Bill English has confirmed he has absolutely no plans to lift wages, Labour’s spokesperson on Labour Issues, Andrew Little says. “Bill English told the Chamber of Commerce yesterday that workers could expect a rise in average income of...
    Labour | 16-04
  • Govt careless and callous about threatened birds
    The National Government is increasing the threat to two of the world's most threatened and unique birds by opening up Victoria Forest Park to petroleum drilling, the Green Party said today.Scientists have recently published a ranking of the 100 most...
    Greens | 16-04
  • Genesis: The biggest fire sale of them all
    National has finished its asset sales with a massive bonfire of a fire sale, showing once and for all how much of a disaster this programme was, says Labour’s SOEs spokesperson Clayton Cosgrove. “Just 68,000 Kiwis bought shares in Genesis,...
    Labour | 16-04
  • Interest rates rise but only smokes increasing
    Mortgage rate rises are making life harder for homeowners, and many of them will be surprised the latest CPI figures show inflation would be zero were it not for tobacco tax hikes, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “New Zealanders...
    Labour | 16-04
  • Term One Report Card for Hekia Parata
    Assignment Teacher’s Comments Grade      ...
    Labour | 16-04
  • Hekia Parata kept exam book errors from schools
    Schools will be appalled to learn Education Minister Hekia Parata knew since January that hundreds of exam booklets had been returned to the wrong students but said nothing about it, Labour’s Education Spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Exams are stressful enough...
    Labour | 15-04
  • What has ACC Minister been doing?
    The ACC Minister needs to front up and explain what, if any, changes she has made to the broken culture of ACC rather than denying that she has any part to play in the dysfunction of her Ministry, the Green...
    Greens | 15-04
  • Promise of jam tomorrow takes the cake
    A claim by Minister of Finance Bill English that average wages will climb by $7,500 over the next four years is a cynical promise of jam tomorrow by a government whose record on wage growth is atrocious, Labour spokesperson on...
    Labour | 15-04
  • Judith Collins has to fess up on ACC blunder
    ACC Minster Judith Collins must front up and tell New Zealand how many people who refused to hand over their private details to ACC have been denied cover, says Labour’s ACC Spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway. “The legality of ACC’s privacy waver,...
    Labour | 15-04
  • Board of Inquiry conditions will save rivers in New Zealand
    The Ruataniwha dam decision released today has protected the Tukituki River and dashed the Government’s hope of the “one nutrient model” (TRIM) being adopted nationwide, says Labour’s Conservation spokesperson Ruth Dyson. “It is a massive victory for those in the...
    Labour | 15-04
  • Labour turns wheels for cycling safety
    With more than a million New Zealanders now using cycling as an attractive alternative means of transport it is past time their safety was taken seriously, Labour’s Transport spokesperson Darien Fenton says. Due to speak to a cycling rally at...
    Labour | 15-04
  • SPEECH: Institute of Directors
    LEADING AND MANAGING OUR ECONOMIC FUTURE David Cunliffe MP, Labour Leader Speech to the Institute of Directors 15 April 2014, Auckland It's a privilege to be speaking here. The Institute of Directors has a proud history of developing New Zealand's...
    Labour | 15-04
  • More Oravida endorsements from John Key
    The use of a picture of John Key in an advertisement for Oravida’s scampi products in a Chinese airline magazine is further evidence of an unhealthily cosy relationship between the National Party and this company, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says....
    Labour | 15-04
  • Workers at Canterbury Yarns need redundancy support
    Workers faced with redundancy at Canterbury Yarns need a redundancy support co-ordinator, Green Party industrial relations spokesperson Denise Roche said today.Last week, Canterbury Yarns was placed in receivership. Canterbury Yarns joins a long list of New Zealand manufacturers who have...
    Greens | 14-04
  • Making the holidays easier for Kiwi drivers
    The next Labour Government will make the holidays easier and journeys quicker for Kiwi families driving on the roads, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “There’s nothing Kiwis like more than getting on the road and going on holiday. But on...
    Labour | 14-04
  • Ae Marika! 15 April 2014
    Our MANA AGM down in Rotorua on the weekend was a sold-out affair – even the media were struggling to get in! Political conferences can be very dull, but not this one. We had a great line-up of speakers including...
    Mana | 14-04
  • Green light from Labour for cancer screening programme
    Labour Leader David Cunliffe has today committed to a national bowel screening programme, starting with extending the current service to the Southern and Waikato districts. “Around 3000 New Zealanders develop bowel cancer each year and about 1200, or 100 a month,...
    Labour | 14-04
  • Adequate resourcing needed for victims’ advocate
    The establishment of a victims’ commissioner role will only be meaningful if it is properly resourced to do the job of advocating for victims’ interests, Labour Justice spokesperson Andrew Little says. Justice Minister Judith Collins has just recently indicated her...
    Labour | 13-04
  • IPCC report shows Government ignoring climate experts
    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's (IPCC) report into climate mitigation, just released in Berlin, shows the National Government is ignoring the pleas of the world's best climate scientists.The report says deep and fast emission cuts are vital from all...
    Greens | 13-04
  • Japan’s quick turnaround on whaling disappointing
    News that Japan plans to recommence some form of “scientific” whaling programme so quickly after the International Court of Justice’s ruling against it is very disappointing, says David Shearer, Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson. “New Zealanders expected the ICJ ruling -...
    Labour | 13-04
  • Reviewable tenancies will increase risks for vulnerable children
    Instead of kicking families out of their homes if they can pay their rent, parents with young children should have the opportunity to purchase equity in a state-built home over time, the Green Party said todayFrom July, Housing New Zealand...
    Greens | 13-04
  • 48,000 New Zealanders drinking faecally contaminated water
    Some 48,000 people were provided with water that had issues with faecal contamination, 18,000 of whom were from Canterbury, the Green Party said today. The Ministry of Health's Annual Report on Drinking-Water in New Zealand for 2012/13 shows that 48,000...
    Greens | 12-04
  • Labour will move to save the Kauri
    Labour will spend $20 million over the next 10 years to stop the spread of Kauri dieback disease, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “We are facing an ecological disaster with over 11 per cent of the Kauri trees in the...
    Labour | 12-04
  • Turning Shane: How Murray McCully deprived Labour of Mr Jones
    THERE ARE THREE TYPES OF TRAITOR. The first is the person who betrays his country for a higher cause. The second betrays his country for money. The third betrays his country for the wrongs it has done him. By far...
    The Daily Blog | 23-04
  • Why NZ needs a Digital Bill of Rights
    I’m glad the Greens have taken on board some of my suggestions for a NZ Digital Bill of Rights. October last year I blogged… what should a NZ Digital Bill of Rights look like? -freedom of online expression -freedom of...
    The Daily Blog | 23-04
  • The blue collar cred smoko room mythology of Shane Jones as told by the msm
    So apparently, Shane Jones leaving is the end of the Labour Party. Yawn. Vernon Small screams, “Disarray. There is no other word to describe the mess the Labour Party plunged into last night” while John Armstrong predicts “resignation couldn’t have...
    The Daily Blog | 22-04
  • Flockton Floods Again
    Last week the Flockton Basin flooded again – the second time in six weeks.  And not just roads and land, but homes and garages.  Some people have been flooded multiple times since the earthquakes.  One couple, after the March flood...
    The Daily Blog | 22-04
  • The PI vote and political stunts
    The mainstream media got quite excited a couple of weeks ago when a number of Pasifika church leaders were photographed at the Manurewa markets wearing blue, Key-people t-shirts. The clergy pictured in those articles said that they had changed allegiance...
    The Daily Blog | 22-04
  • EDUCANZ / EDUCAN’T
    Oh hello, select committee … sorry to interrupt your tea and bickies, but I have something on my mind that I really need to talk to you about. You see, word on the street is that you are planning to...
    The Daily Blog | 22-04
  • Why Waiariki and Epsom are so important this election
    Two of the lynchpin electorates that need to go the Opposition’s way if there is any chance of a Labour led Government are Waiariki and Epsom. Epsom is the only lifeline for ACT and if the 6000 progressive voters in...
    The Daily Blog | 22-04
  • TV Review: Seven Sharp: third strike lucky
     More prophetic than anyone could imagine – Jesse in a coffin  Jesse Mulligan was the last of the original ill-fated trio to be dumped from Seven Sharp.  This happened last week with little notice given and less notice paid.  His removal was more inevitable than the...
    The Daily Blog | 22-04
  • The Liberal Agenda 23rd-27th April
    The week is dominated by the launch of the NZ International Comedy Festival – our picks for the week are… WEDNESDAY 23rdSunrise Yoga on Queens Wharf 7am-8.15am Queens Wharf, 89 Quay Street (bottom of Queen Street) Free ********************************************************************* THURSDAY 24th5...
    The Daily Blog | 22-04
  • Shane Jones caption contest
    Shane Jones caption contest...
    The Daily Blog | 22-04
  • Helping Simon Bridges find the forest he lost
    Helping Simon Bridges find the forest he lost...
    The Daily Blog | 22-04
  • On climate change denial
    On climate change denial...
    The Daily Blog | 22-04
  • Labour on manufacturing
    Labour on manufacturing...
    The Daily Blog | 22-04
  • When your National Party mates claim National are a better economic manager...
    When your National Party mates claim National are a better economic manager, show them this graph...
    The Daily Blog | 22-04
  • Introverts Unite (separately)
    Introverts Unite (separately)...
    The Daily Blog | 22-04
  • The problem with food
    The problem with food...
    The Daily Blog | 22-04
  • Why queues outside synthetic cannabis shop is proof regulation is working
    Latest moral panic on synthetic cannabis is that there were queues waiting for a store to open over Easter. Yawn. Before the Psychoactive Substances Act (PSA), there were up to 6000 venders and hundreds of different brands. Since regulation via the...
    The Daily Blog | 22-04
  • Shane Jones resignation: Labour dodge a bullet & the Greens smile
    Best Friends Forever now Thank God Shane Jones is selling out and taking a job for National… Shane Jones to leave Labour, set to work with Murray McCully Shane Jones is quitting Parliament and the Labour Party, and there is...
    The Daily Blog | 22-04
  • The only one happy with ACTs new ’3 strikes’ for burglary will be priva...
    The great scholarly Grand Cleric of the libertarian right, Jamie Whyte, has come down from the mount with two stone tablets and sadly all he has is 3 strikes, not 10 commandments… Jail burglars after third offence, says Act Party...
    The Daily Blog | 21-04
  • Trade and Investment Agreements: Human Rights For Sale
    On March 29, many New Zealanders took to the streets in defense of democratic rights by opposing the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA). A week earlier, delegates from dairy unions from around the world (including the NZ Dairy Workers Union...
    The Daily Blog | 21-04
  • Rest in peace Rubin ‘Hurricane’ Carter – despite the disgusting polic...
    Rest in peace Rubin ‘Hurricane’ Carter – despite the disgusting police racism and injustice you were undefeated...
    The Daily Blog | 20-04
  • Maori Party wine and dine invite
    Maori Party wine and dine invite...
    The Daily Blog | 20-04
  • For Simon Bridges – here’s the forest you forget
    For Simon Bridges – here’s the forest you forget...
    The Daily Blog | 20-04
  • Never forget the GCSB lies
    Never forget the GCSB lies...
    The Daily Blog | 20-04
  • The Empire strikes back
    The Empire strikes back...
    The Daily Blog | 20-04
  • God bless capitalism
    God bless capitalism...
    The Daily Blog | 20-04
  • Drone killings erode social constraint on using violence
    The drone killing of an (unnamed) New Zealander in Yemen should prompt us to look at the ethics of this practice. We’re told from birth that murder is wrong. Yet drone killings (as conducted by the Obama administration) convey the...
    The Daily Blog | 20-04
  • Labour’s first 100 days – where the messaging needs to be
    ‘The first 100 days’, an expression coined by President Roosevelt in 1933, is generally used to describe the successes and accomplishments of a government at the time when their power is greatest. During the 2008 election campaign, John Key issued...
    The Daily Blog | 20-04
  • Pharrell: a new brand of feminism?
    I think most people heard about how the song Blurred Lines featuring and co-written by Pharrell and performed by Robin Thicke (who has adeptly just been named “Sexist of the Year”) really pissed a lot of people off last year. ...
    The Daily Blog | 20-04
  • Why Easter holidays should always be mandatory and retail free
    The moaning from retailers that they can’t open the cash registers and worship the consumer culture of consumption over Easter bores me immensely because I’ve always believed that public holidays should be mandatory. It’s not that I really care about...
    The Daily Blog | 19-04
  • Why punish the parents of the disabled?
    Parents who have adult children with disabilities saw a glimmer of hope when the promise for payment for caring for their children was given. But like most things, the complicated and relentless bureaucracy of the whole process shows a completely...
    The Daily Blog | 19-04
  • Our government: still no idea
    Happy Easter everyone, bad weather aside. A previous post of mine was called “The Government with no ideas”.  Unsurprisingly, the theme of the piece was of a current government thoroughly absent of any creative ideas or solutions to assist more...
    The Daily Blog | 18-04
  • 12 things Forbes has to say about NZs about to burst economic bubble
    Forbes is not known for their socialist or left wing activism, so when they predict a grim economic failure, we should should collectively poo ourselves a little. National often get given this perception that somehow they are better economic mangers....
    The Daily Blog | 18-04
  • That Sinking Feeling: Labour’s urgent need for persuasive words and coura...
    THE LATEST ROY MORGAN POLL has Labour on 28.5 percent (down 3.5 percent) and the Greens on 11.5 percent (down 1.5 percent). At 40 percent, the combined vote of the two main centre-left parties has fallen 5 percentage points since...
    The Daily Blog | 18-04
  • Why the Labour movement should support a Universal Basic Income
    The Mana movement’s support of the idea of a universal basic income is a welcome development. It could become one of the litmus issues that define the party and prove extremely popular. If Mana are in a position to do...
    The Daily Blog | 18-04
  • Legal high and cannabis regulation
    I marched through Henderson last month with my fellow Westies to express our concern about the impact of so called “legal highs” on our community. Some people chanted loudly calling for banning, some expressing anger at the parliamentarians who voted...
    The Daily Blog | 18-04
  • Know your Tory fellow travellers and ideologues: John Bishop, Taxpayers Uni...
    . . On 19 March, I reported on the Board members of the so-called “Taxpayers Union”. With one exception, every single member of the Taxpayers Union Board was a current (or recent) card-carrying member or supporter of the National and/or...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • GUEST BLOG: Daniel Bruce – Internet Party: What Seems Ridiculous To The O...
    Imagine you’re a 18-21 year old, from a working class family. You’ve never had a landline phone at home, because your parents can’t afford the fixed monthly bills, so everyone in your familiy has a pre-pay mobile phone. Because of the same tight...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Greens to push for housing standards in MOU with Government
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Greens to push for housing standards in MOU with Government Tuesday, 28 Aug 2012 | Press Release We don’t need any more official reports. We know the problem and we have the plans....
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Mighty River squanders $3.8m preparing for sale
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Mighty River squanders $3.8m preparing for sale Tuesday, 28 Aug 2012 | Press Release New Zealanders do not want asset sales and they do not want the Government wasting millions of dollars on...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Government’s economic agenda on shaky ground
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Government’s economic agenda on shaky ground Monday, 27 Aug 2012 | Press Release Instead of betting on a boom and bust industry and selling off assets the government needs to invest in a...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • National’s tax cuts haven’t cut tax avoidance
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: National’s tax cuts haven’t cut tax avoidance Sunday, 26 Aug 2012 | Press Release It is not fair that many rich New Zealanders are cheating on their tax. National’s 2010 tax cuts, that...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Waitangi Tribunal report adds to crisis in asset sales agenda
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Waitangi Tribunal report adds to crisis in asset sales agenda Friday, 24 Aug 2012 | Press Release In its rush to sell our assets, National has found itself in a crisis of its...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Privacy across all departments needs checking
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Privacy across all departments needs checking Friday, 24 Aug 2012 | Press Release “People don’t have a choice about giving their information to the state so the Government has an absolute duty to...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Reports show Government role in driving ACC dysfunction
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Reports show Government role in driving ACC dysfunction Thursday, 23 Aug 2012 | Press Release Restoring public trust and confidence is an essential goal and will require very major change starting from the...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Government must front up on full costs of asset sales
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Government must front up on full costs of asset sales Thursday, 23 Aug 2012 | Press Release It’s time for the Government to front up over just how much these asset sales are...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • New report: middle NZ worse off, inequality grows
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: New report: middle NZ worse off, inequality grows Thursday, 23 Aug 2012 | Press Release Our society has never been as unequal as it is today. New research from the Ministry of Social...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Government to delay addressing climate change indefinitely
    Source: Green Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Government to delay addressing climate change indefinitely Thursday, 23 Aug 2012 | Press Release “It would be a shock for any other Government to introduce such a self-defeatist piece of legislation but unfortunately...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Time to deliver on 26 weeks Paid Parental Leave
    Source: Labour Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Time to deliver on 26 weeks Paid Parental Leave Today marks two years since Labour MP Sue Moroney’s Bill extending paid parental leave to 26 weeks was drawn from the members’ ballot. “It’s...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Taxpayers robbed of $130m in Genesis sale
    Source: Labour Party – Press Release/Statement: Headline: Taxpayers robbed of $130m in Genesis sale Kiwi taxpayers have been robbed of $130 million by the Government in its final failed asset sale, says Labour’s SOEs spokesperson Clayton Cosgrove. “National set the...
    The Daily Blog | 17-04
  • Total figures for campaign against alcohol fuelled violence
    The final total figures for the eighth police led Operation Unite: a Blitz on Drunken Violence was announced today by Jon White, CEO of the Australia New Zealand Policing Advisory Agency (ANZPAA)....
    Scoop politics | 23-04
  • ACT’s proposal to further three-strikes policy short-sighted
    JustSpeak is calling out the ACT Party’s extension of the three-strikes policy as knee-jerk punitivism, political populism and based on a culture of fear, rather than evidence....
    Scoop politics | 23-04
  • InternetNZ pleased Green Party taking issues seriously
    InternetNZ is pleased to see the Green Party join Labour in having a serious discussion about online rights....
    Scoop politics | 23-04
  • Age Concern calls for building accessibility for elderly
    Age Concern has made a submission strongly opposing the clause within the Building (Earthquake-prone Buildings) Amendment Bill that exempts building owners from providing or improving building accessibility. The current Building Act 2004 clearly acknowledges...
    Scoop politics | 23-04
  • Internet Rights & Principles Coalition: Internet Rights Bill
    The Internet Rights and Principles Coalition (IRP Coalition) of the UN Internet Governance Forum applaud the release of the NZ Green Party’s Internet Rights and Freedoms Bill for public consultation. The IRF Bill is a pioneering project for the internet...
    Scoop politics | 23-04
  • Gender quotas should be a last resort
    The Institute of Directors in New Zealand (IoD), says introducing gender quotas is not the best solution to increase the number of women directors on New Zealand boards....
    Scoop politics | 22-04
  • Taika Waititi lends support to #BeefWithBullies campaign
    Even if Chardonnay doesn’t like your Michael Jackson dance moves, that’s no reason for you to be made fun of. Renowned Kiwi director, Taika Waititi has pledged his support to the Mad Butcher’s anti-bullying campaign #BeefWithBullies. With...
    Scoop politics | 22-04
  • Commissioner proposes limit on credit reporting charges
    The Privacy Commissioner, John Edwards, is proposing an amendment to the Credit Reporting Privacy Code that would limit what credit reporters can charge individuals wanting immediate access to their credit information....
    Scoop politics | 22-04
  • Does ACC system provide access to justice asks UN
    The United Nations Committee responsible for the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities ("CRPD") has formally raised access to justice and other issues with the New Zealand Government. The Committee considered a report submitted...
    Scoop politics | 22-04
  • Iwi concerned over future of country’s oldest wharenui
    An East Coast iwi says they are concerned the Crown has not made good on its promise to return their wharenui – the oldest meeting house in the country. “The Government promised to return our wharenui, now they are reneging,”...
    Scoop politics | 22-04
  • NZDF-Supported Anzac Day Commemorations in France, Belgium
    The New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) will be increasing its support for official and locally-run Anzac Day commemorations in France and Belgium this year with a 10 person contingent, including a Māori cultural element, from New Zealand as well...
    Scoop politics | 22-04
  • Third National Māori Housing Conference set to take place
    Success stories in Māori Housing developments from around Aotearoa will be shared at a National Māori Housing Conference, to be held in Whanganui from May 1-3. Conference hosts the Whanganui Iwi Housing Forum and national umbrella organization Te Matapihi...
    Scoop politics | 22-04
  • Partnership targets visitor safety on New Zealand roads
    Partnership targets visitor safety on New Zealand roads Tourism New Zealand, the New Zealand Transport Agency and Air New Zealand have joined forces to target Chinese tourists with important road safety messages before they get behind the wheel. A...
    Scoop politics | 22-04
  • Renewable energy in the Pacific under EU-NZ Partnership
    European Commissioner Piebalgs and New Zealand Foreign Minister McCully depart on 23-27 April on a joint mission to the Pacific to see EU-NZ renewable energy and energy efficiency projects....
    Scoop politics | 22-04
  • Disabled Community Further Marginalised by Proposed Bill
    Disabled Community Further Marginalised by Proposed Building Amendment Bill for Earthquake Prone Buildings to the Building Act....
    Scoop politics | 22-04
  • Home loan affordability worsens by most in 12 years
    Home loan affordability worsens by most in 12 years as interest rates and house prices rise...
    Scoop politics | 22-04
  • ACT should abandon Three Strikes
    Rethinking Crime and Punishment is urging right wing politicians to do their homework before coming up with one-off “tough on crime – high on vengeance’ sentencing policies for which there is no evidence of success. He was responding to the...
    Scoop politics | 21-04
  • Noho Hewa’: Visit of Native Hawaiian filmmaker
    Native Hawaiian filmmaker, Anne Keala Kelly, will be in Aotearoa New Zealand for two screenings of the award winning documentary 'Noho Hewa: the wrongful occupation of Hawai'i', a powerful portrayal of the multiple links between militarisation and...
    Scoop politics | 21-04
  • Rural Contractors NZ hits the road during May
    Rural Contractors New Zealand (RCNZ) will be updating its members on the latest changes in health and safety, transport and employment laws – as well as other topics – in a series of roadshows being held around the country during...
    Scoop politics | 21-04
  • Landlord and tenant alarm at healthy homes bill
    Landlord and tenant alarm at healthy homes bill Landlords and tenants should be alarmed at Labour MP Phil Twyford’s Healthy Homes Guarantee Bill that would immediately impose stringent requirements upon rental properties without defining those requirements,...
    Scoop politics | 21-04
  • US/New Zealand relationship best in thirty years
    US/New Zealand relationship best in thirty years. NZ well qualified for UN Security Council seat...
    Scoop politics | 21-04
  • Oxford University study says large dams are uneconomical
    Just in time for this week’s ASEAN Renewable Energy Week, new scientific results have questioned the economic viability of large dams. Calculations by the Bruno Manser Fund show that the Malaysian Bakun Dam scores even worse than the average large...
    Scoop politics | 21-04
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  • Waitangi National Trust Board Amendment Bill
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    Scoop politics | 17-04
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    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Where Are The 15,000 Jobs?
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    Scoop politics | 17-04
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    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • Depreciation Policy Shouldn’t Be Just for Pet Industries
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    Scoop politics | 17-04
  • FIFA U-20 World Cup NZ 2015 Kick Off Times Announced
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