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	<title>Comments on: Another Key foot in mouth</title>
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		<title>By: bobo</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/another-key-foot-in-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-173900</link>
		<dc:creator>bobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its all a bit precious, will we stop using the term dutch courage, . Surely there&#039;s more than enough to attack Key on than  a old false stereotypical saying .I admit I have used it at times over the years , line me up and shoot me... with Phil Goff..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its all a bit precious, will we stop using the term dutch courage, . Surely there&#8217;s more than enough to attack Key on than  a old false stereotypical saying .I admit I have used it at times over the years , line me up and shoot me&#8230; with Phil Goff..</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Widerstrom</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/another-key-foot-in-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-173850</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex Widerstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Key&#039;s crassness: Is it National&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7497097.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nigger in the woodpile&lt;/a&gt;?

[Seems conservative parties are prone to outbursts of antiquated phraseology which reveals their crass insensitivity while leftist parties struggle to invent new tautologies to ensure the politically correct nomenclature of bloody manhole covers. To quote a philosopher on the subject of humanity&#039;s stupidity: D&#039;Oh!]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Key&#8217;s crassness: Is it National&#8217;s <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7497097.stm" rel="nofollow">nigger in the woodpile</a>?</p>
<p>[Seems conservative parties are prone to outbursts of antiquated phraseology which reveals their crass insensitivity while leftist parties struggle to invent new tautologies to ensure the politically correct nomenclature of bloody manhole covers. To quote a philosopher on the subject of humanity's stupidity: D'Oh!]</p>
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		<title>By: Geek</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/another-key-foot-in-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-173833</link>
		<dc:creator>Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanna take back &quot;porch-monkey&quot;. My gramma used it all the time and she wern&#039;t no racist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanna take back &#8220;porch-monkey&#8221;. My gramma used it all the time and she wern&#8217;t no racist.</p>
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		<title>By: Geek</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/another-key-foot-in-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-173831</link>
		<dc:creator>Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.thestandard.org.nz/failures-of-leadership-english-hide-and-harawira/#comments
http://www.thestandard.org.nz/harawira-offensive-dumb-no-excuses/#comments

On just those two threads we have Sprout, Toad, Con and others saying that Harawira&#039;s comments were not racist based on the fact that they were aimed only at a group of white people. I&#039;m not going to get into a debate on that topic as the Horse has been completely flogged. I just enjoy pointing out their hypocrisy when they jump to Harawira&#039;s defense yet I haven&#039;t heard a peep from them in this thread to defend r0b&#039;s accusations of racism against Mellisa Lee.</description>
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<a href="http://www.thestandard.org.nz/harawira-offensive-dumb-no-excuses/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.thestandard.org.nz/harawira-offensive-dumb-no-excuses/#comments</a></p>
<p>On just those two threads we have Sprout, Toad, Con and others saying that Harawira&#8217;s comments were not racist based on the fact that they were aimed only at a group of white people. I&#8217;m not going to get into a debate on that topic as the Horse has been completely flogged. I just enjoy pointing out their hypocrisy when they jump to Harawira&#8217;s defense yet I haven&#8217;t heard a peep from them in this thread to defend r0b&#8217;s accusations of racism against Mellisa Lee.</p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/another-key-foot-in-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-173792</link>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about &quot;porch-monkey&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about &#8220;porch-monkey&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: (definitely not) Paul Henry</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/another-key-foot-in-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-173784</link>
		<dc:creator>(definitely not) Paul Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am Paul Henry, The Paul Henry to myself, but not that git from Breakfast.

&lt;strong&gt;[lprent: Yeah and I run NZ. In other words this still sounds like bullshit. You get exactly one more try. Change the pseudonym or prove your real name is Paul Henry via e-mail. ]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Paul Henry, The Paul Henry to myself, but not that git from Breakfast.</p>
<p><strong>[lprent: Yeah and I run NZ. In other words this still sounds like bullshit. You get exactly one more try. Change the pseudonym or prove your real name is Paul Henry via e-mail. ]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Pascal's bookie</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/another-key-foot-in-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-173783</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal's bookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a sense, but so what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a sense, but so what?</p>
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		<title>By: Bright Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bright Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the terms are house n*gger and wandering jew.

see, Brazilian wax is not an insulting term towards Brazilians but wandering jew is an insulting term towards jews, which is why people generally don&#039;t use it anymore

Likewise, French kissing isn&#039;t an insulting term, Indian giver is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the terms are house n*gger and wandering jew.</p>
<p>see, Brazilian wax is not an insulting term towards Brazilians but wandering jew is an insulting term towards jews, which is why people generally don&#8217;t use it anymore</p>
<p>Likewise, French kissing isn&#8217;t an insulting term, Indian giver is.</p>
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		<title>By: (probably not) Paul Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>(probably not) Paul Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Pascal all those terms are ambiguous.

&lt;strong&gt;[lprent: You&#039;re now in auto-moderation for probably being a stupid prick doing a bit of identity capture. Either prove to us in a very short time that you are &#039;Paul Henry&#039; or I will give you a permanent ban for wasting my time. ]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Pascal all those terms are ambiguous.</p>
<p><strong>[lprent: You're now in auto-moderation for probably being a stupid prick doing a bit of identity capture. Either prove to us in a very short time that you are 'Paul Henry' or I will give you a permanent ban for wasting my time. ]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Pascal's bookie</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/another-key-foot-in-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-173778</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal's bookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wanker&quot;, &quot;tosser&quot;, &quot;Fuck-knuckle&quot; &quot;Arsehole&quot;, any of these would suffice, there are many more.

There&#039;s a hint there as to why &quot;indian giver&quot; is kinda dodgy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wanker&#8221;, &#8220;tosser&#8221;, &#8220;Fuck-knuckle&#8221; &#8220;Arsehole&#8221;, any of these would suffice, there are many more.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a hint there as to why &#8220;indian giver&#8221; is kinda dodgy.</p>
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		<title>By: (Possibly not the real) Paul Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>(Possibly not the real) Paul Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just can&#039;t think of a term that describes someone who gives a gift then asks for it back. Mother-in-law?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can&#8217;t think of a term that describes someone who gives a gift then asks for it back. Mother-in-law?</p>
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		<title>By: (Possibly not the real) Paul Henry</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/another-key-foot-in-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-173775</link>
		<dc:creator>(Possibly not the real) Paul Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bright Red I honestly have absolutely no idea. Are you sure those are widely know terms?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bright Red I honestly have absolutely no idea. Are you sure those are widely know terms?</p>
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		<title>By: Bright Red</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/another-key-foot-in-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-173768</link>
		<dc:creator>Bright Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>probably not PH, how about we play this game a little more

what means a person who displays a slavish devotion to their boss in the nature that supposedly expressed by black slaves who lived in the masters home?

What name is given to several species of spiderwort, small invasive weed?

Let me say it again - the problem isn&#039;t with using a term that includes the name of an ethnic group. The problem is using a racist term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>probably not PH, how about we play this game a little more</p>
<p>what means a person who displays a slavish devotion to their boss in the nature that supposedly expressed by black slaves who lived in the masters home?</p>
<p>What name is given to several species of spiderwort, small invasive weed?</p>
<p>Let me say it again &#8211; the problem isn&#8217;t with using a term that includes the name of an ethnic group. The problem is using a racist term.</p>
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		<title>By: rocky</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/another-key-foot-in-mouth/comment-page-1/#comment-173767</link>
		<dc:creator>rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Clearly, following most of the apologists on this site for Hone Harawira, racism or insensitivity no longer matters.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ll just note yet again that there were more posts condemning Harawira than the other way around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Clearly, following most of the apologists on this site for Hone Harawira, racism or insensitivity no longer matters.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just note yet again that there were more posts condemning Harawira than the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: BLiP</title>
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		<dc:creator>BLiP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You blew it with abusing people from the Netherlands. Up till then you sort of had half a point, except that none of the examples given were based on ignorance and put-down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You blew it with abusing people from the Netherlands. Up till then you sort of had half a point, except that none of the examples given were based on ignorance and put-down.</p>
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