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As bad as it gets

Written By: - Date published: 8:44 am, April 29th, 2009 - 47 comments
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Clare Trevett grow up.

You write a piece congratulating Key on making diversionary statements when he is asked serious questions about the supercity? I know your employer is chief propagandist for Key and the supercity but don’t you have any professional pride?

You should be the one asking the questions, not cheering when the PM refuses to answer questions. But talking about policy is hard work, eh Clare? Writing soap opera pieces is fun. Supposed journalists like you have caused the trivalisation of politics and the result is we can’t as a society make informed decisions on serious issues.

You’re meant to be a bloody journalist.

47 comments on “As bad as it gets”

  1. vto 1

    Calm down Mr Eddie, that article appears to be in fact about politicians games in the house and not about much else. There have been absolutely countless pieces about Clark and Cullen’s similar tactics and games and congrats over their own cleverality over the last too long.

    You get out of the wrong side of bed this morning?

    • sean 1.1

      what do you expect from Clare Trevett? she was a national party researcher after all.

  2. Eddie 2

    Point me to another article (not an opinion piece) that congratulates a minister for avoiding questions

    Do you think it’s good enough even if it’s something that cuts both ways? Because I sure don’t

  3. vto 3

    I can’t point like that as it would take too long, but maybe someone else can.

    I think most people would see the article for what it is – a piece of poop for pollie proponents. Most would be too busy to waste time on it. Whether it is worthy or not is immaterial provided it is recognised for what it is.

    Mind you, it’s refreshing to see the nats get some points over labour in the squabblehouse..

  4. BLiP 4

    Ironic. The great defender of democracy at a time when its advertising revenue was threatened now sets up cheap chuckles about how clever the Prime Minister is at avoiding answering important questions.

    Still – when it comes to the “cut and thrust” of debate, Goff hardly did Auckland’s cause any favours. Failing to ask the real questions and bumbling around with procedure is something we’ve come to expect from National.

  5. Tane 5

    To be fair Claire Trevett is one of the best journalists out there. I was surprised to read the tone of the article too but I’d give her the benefit of the doubt on this one.

  6. felix 6

    vto,

    Countless? Really?

    But you can’t find one in the time it took you to write those two comments?

    • vto 6.1

      Yes really. But I may be wrong – it may be that articles have never been penned praising the skills in the house of Clark and Cullen and highlighting the flailing around of say Brash and Key…

      • felix 6.1.1

        Well if you’re so sure you should be able to show at least one article praising Labour ministers for not answering questions. I mean you bought it up. And you’ve clearly got a bit of time on your hands as you’re still here.

        Maybe it’s in the same article which quotes Helen Clark calling west coasters “feral inbreds”.

        • vto 6.1.1.1

          ha ha. what?

          How on earth would I find old articles from old newspapers? It’s not as if I keep them all stacked away in the shed, filed and numbered and ready to go for just such a showing at the standard standard.

          And what’s “feral inbreds” got to do with it. Baiting? Like abuse like “Hit.er”, “childless he-woman”, “Klarc”, etc…

          The double standards have been flying thick and fast for as long as a long thing here and most other places. This thread is just another example. (Please don’t ask me to find another one..)

          In fact, there have been a few threads here lately re hypocrisy of Farrar etc. The standard is hypocritical over its hypocrisy.. and that doesn’t square itself out to even either..

          • felix 6.1.1.1.1

            Gee I don’t know. If only there were some way of searching for information on the internet…

            And what’s “feral inbreds’ got to do with it

            Well it’s another example of something you guys like to bring up as historical fact but have never been able to substantiate.

          • vto 6.1.1.1.2

            like the “secwet agenda”… wooooooh spooky

          • felix 6.1.1.1.3

            I don’t follow. But here you go: this might be what you’re looking for.

          • vto 6.1.1.1.4

            Google? Who on earth would have a business called google?

          • felix 6.1.1.1.5

            I know, it’s crazy! If there was a shop called google I wouldn’t go there. Sounds sticky.

  7. Andrew 7

    Oh come on … really! Dr Cullen pulled out one liners like that every other day and i didnt see you screaming at the MSN over those.

    • felix 7.1

      Why would anyone scream at the media over something Cullen said?

      I think you’re confused as to what this post is about.

      • Andrew 7.1.1

        Well basically Key has a laugh at other MP’s expence and “Eddie” gets all upset about the MSN reporting of it. Cullen used to do that all the time and we didnt hear great howlings of anguish over those … thats all i was getting at.

        • felix 7.1.1.1

          Are you a bit slow Andrew?

          This article is about the journalism, not Key’s answers.

          • Andrew 7.1.1.1.1

            I said … “Eddie gets all upset about the MSN reporting of it”

            can’t you read?!? … anyway, not slow not at all … as vto said, im sure i could find examples of the media laughing along and holding hands with ‘Dr Cullen’, but to be fair i can’t be bothered. it was the ferocity of the post that got my attention. someone seriousy needs to take a chill pill.

          • felix 7.1.1.1.2

            Don’t sink to vto’s level, Andrew – he does this quite regularly (states opinion as provable fact and then spends all day refusing to show proof) but you don’t need to. You’re better than that, aren’t you?

            Oh no hang on, you didn’t even really understand the post. Maybe you’re not.

            So go on, show a comparable article directly praising Cullen for avoiding answering questions in the house. Should take you about as long as it took you to write that last comment.

          • vto 7.1.1.1.3

            Bit sensitive there Felix. Are you also Eddie?

            But really, why would anyone waste time answering someone’s call to prove that the grass is in fact green?

          • Andrew 7.1.1.1.4

            you are a smart ass little prick arn’t you felix … anyway, im done playing, go home and cuddle up to your mommy, she will make the darkness go away.

          • felix 7.1.1.1.5

            Why vto? Because you can.

          • vto 7.1.1.1.6

            Ok then smarty pants, how about some proof that this article actually congratulates Key as claimed. Eddie is clearly stating an opinion as provable fact which is not in fact proved. At all. Which words in the article actually show congratulations by Trevett for Key?

            They don’t exist.

            This thread is predicated on exactly what you berate me for.

            Now, back to that post about hypocrisy…

          • felix 7.1.1.1.7

            Which words? All of them, taken as a whole. It’s the constitution, it’s Marbo, it’s the vibe.

            As I mention below though, I suspect the whole article may be parody.

          • vto 7.1.1.1.8

            ha ha you win prize for best answer. Great movie that.

            But I am correct am I not that this article does not in fact congratulate Key…

  8. Andy 8

    Claire Trevett used to be a National Party researcher. Just saying.

    • Tane 8.1

      So what? Claire Trevett’s a professional and I’ve never seen any evidence that she gives National a free ride. This article strikes me more as an example of the current malaise in journalism, not of Trevett showing any particular bias.

  9. Graeme 9

    Quite right, rather than a story about how question time went, the contempt of Parliament almost certainly to be committed by Phil Goff should have been front and centre.

    • sean 9.1

      Graeme. you think whether or not Goff can get some front pages of newspapers is the most important story? Not the Government’s policy on the supercity? Sometimes it’s like you can’t see the forest because you’re too obsessed with the detail of the trees.

  10. felix 10

    At best, Trevett’s piece could be interpreted as satire. Sort of a parody of a politically naive NZ journo writing about politics as sport.

    That’s being fairly charitable though.

    • Tane 10.1

      Yeah, it reads to me like a parody of a Jane Clifton piece. Only I’ve given up on ever getting anything substantive out of Jane Clifton.

  11. gobsmacked 11

    A primary school classroom, yesterday:

    Teacher: “So have you done your homework, John? What’s the answer to question 2?”

    John: “Er … pee poo piddle bum poo!”

    Claire: “Ooh, good one, John!” (passes him a note with little hearts on)

  12. edoze 12

    Ah hahaha,

    We won, you lost, eat that.

    God i love how labour are sunk. Roll on the By election. Melissa will win by a landslide and a resolution to shut this site down will be passed with an overwhelming majority in the house soon after.

    It will be called the stop utter internet bollix act and will be confined to lefty toff writers. Roll on the rewrite of democracy.

    [lprent: Another supporter of democratic participation. I’ve been asking the question at Kiwiblog about why exactly DPF wants to know the jobs of posters on this site. This ‘person’ has articulated what I suspect is the reason. To discriminate against the authors and shut the site.]

    • edoze 12.1

      Oh come now lynny pinny, i jest. My love of your site is one of fatal attraction, i took the time to post didnt i?

      I own a coal factory in Laos, i employ only the sweetest of virgins and nimblest of hands to work in my slave factories.

      I only want to slow down blog sites such as yours, as i know they will reach my country in due course and then it will be me and my profits that will be strip mined.

      I fear the reaper, union officials, and lefty busybodies all the same.

      Love always,

      Edoze

  13. BLiP 13

    Really – I wonder why? Of course, it wouldn’t do to have only her input into forming one’s opinions, but I rate Jane as one of the top MSM political commentators, even if its just to get a handle on what “they” are thinking. The secret to Jane’s pieces, I find, is to read between the lines. That, and to not be put off by prima facia suggestions she is personally compromised.

  14. Tim Ellis 14

    It sounds like Goff got hammered in the House yesterday, and Trevett’s piece accurately reflects that. Even when he does try to land a hit, the chaos that seems to be his own party and the internal machinations over Mt Albert seem to be getting in the way.

    It would be nice to see Ministers answer questions, but Labour hardly have a perfect record in that regard.

    If Labour had their house in order then Key wouldn’t have been able to pursue such diversionary tactics.

    Whoever said the House had lost its energy and excitement without Winston?

    • sean 14.1

      totally agreed, why couldn’t Goff just ask a straight question and give Key shit for not giving a straight answer?

      Trevett’s piece is awful and it’s a disgrace that our media is so bad but that’s the playing field Goff has to play on. Key gets that grin on his face as the media jump through his hoops, Goff must do better.

    • r0b 14.2

      Even when he does try to land a hit, the chaos that seems to be his own party and the internal machinations over Mt Albert seem to be getting in the way.

      Gotta hand it to you Tim, you’re like the energiser bunny pushing these Nat party lines!

      What you’re seeing for Labour in Mt ALbert is a seat vigourously contested by several excellent candidates, and grassroots democracy at work.

      Compare with National in Mt Albert, where a centrally chosen candidate is being imposed, and the wheels are falling off because the true local candidate refuses to fall on his sword. Internal machinations indeed!

      • jerry 14.2.1

        Come on r0b the best candidate for the job IMO (Phil Twyford) was quietly told to stand aside because of paranoia about Judith – this was silly as he would’ve been voted in by the locals in a canter and would’ve made a good MP for Mt Albert, luckily there seems to be an excellent replacement in the form of Dave Shearer let’s just hope that the party doesn’t get the jitters over what was a pretty sensible comment he made a couple of decades ago.

        • r0b 14.2.1.1

          Come on r0b the best candidate for the job IMO (Phil Twyford) was quietly told to stand aside because of paranoia about Judith

          That’s one version of history Jerry, but both Clark and Goff expressed support for Judith if she returned on the list.

          The other version of history is that Labour are taking the opportunity to bring another fresh new face in to the party.

    • felix 14.3

      I don’t often agree with you, Tim, but I agree entirely with this comment.

      Goff has been lackluster in the house at best. So slow that even Key’s fumbling around the edges of competence and literacy seems almost stellar by comparison.

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  • Auckland land measure seven years too late
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  • Housing crisis about real people not numbers
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  • Housing crisis about real people not numbers
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    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
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  • An economy that is just working for some is an economy that is not working
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    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
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  • House prices to a crack $1 million in 17 months
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    4 days ago
  • Vital support services can’t be left in lurch
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    4 days ago
  • Treasury and IRD on a capital gains tax
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    GreensBy Russel Norman MP
    5 days ago
  • Charity legislation needs review
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    5 days ago
  • John’s panic-Key response to housing crisis
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    5 days ago
  • Keep our Assets Christchurch Campaign: An update
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    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
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  • John Key finally admits there’s a housing crisis
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    6 days ago
  • Government stifles voices in CYFs review
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    1 week ago
  • Speech to the Otago Chamber of Commerce
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  • Stop the conversions
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    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
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  • More regional jobs go in Corrections reshape
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    1 week ago
  • Government’s climate meetings off to a bumpy start
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    GreensBy Steffan Browning MP
    1 week ago
  • Taxpayers the only ones left feeling blue
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    1 week ago
  • Why are the regions still facing restrictions?
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    1 week ago
  • The high costs of weak environmental regulation
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    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    1 week ago
  • Submissions to Wellington City Council on their Gambling Venues Policy
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    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    1 week ago
  • Reserve Bank action shows Govt out of touch and out of ideas
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    1 week ago
  • Send us your snaps: 25 Years of the Green Party
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    2 weeks ago
  • 25 Years of the Green Party
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    2 weeks ago
  • Bay growth plan too little too late
    Today’s Bay of Plenty growth study from MBIE is another example of Government spin - lots of talk but little action, says Labour’s Regional Development spokesperson David Cunliffe.  “This is a region that desperately needs to develop the downstream processing… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Government bows to ACC pressure
     The Government has finally buckled to pressure from Labour and the New Zealand public in making a half billion dollar cut to ACC levies, but the full benefits are two years away,” says Opposition Leader Andrew Little.  “$500 million over… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • False figures cloud Auckland transport facts
    The Prime Minister should apologise and issue a correction after both he and Transport Minister Simon Bridges have been caught out misrepresenting facts on Auckland’s transport spending, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. "Both John Key and Simon Bridges have… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Govt books confirm National can’t post surplus
    The last publication of the Government’s books before the budget shows National will break its promise of seven years and two election campaigns and fail to get the books in order, says Labour’s Finance Spokesperson Grant Robertson. “The Government is… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • US state joins NZ with GE food labelling
    New Zealand has a similar law making the labelling of many GE foods compulsory, but the Government seems to let it slide.  Because the government has not monitored or enforced our GE food labelling laws since 2003, it seems the… ...
    GreensBy Steffan Browning MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour Pays Tribute to Erima Henare
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  • Labour Pays Tribute to Erima Henare
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    2 weeks ago
  • Labour Pays Tribute to Erima Henare
    “E ua e te ua tata rahi ana, Ko te hua i te kamo taheke i runga raa. No reira e te rangatira Erima takoto mai I roto I te ringa o Ihowa o nga Mano e moe e.” ...
    2 weeks ago

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