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At least Parker’s onto it

Written By: - Date published: 5:33 pm, June 5th, 2012 - 80 comments
Categories: david parker, Economy, employment, Europe, exports, jobs, labour, monetary policy - Tags:

The news out of Europe, China and Australia is looking worse by the day. Bernard Hickey spelt out the consequences for New Zealand this morning:

A concerted slowdown in the global economy and the inability of China to restart its strong economic growth would bear down on both economic growth and inflation in New Zealand. That would mean lower interest rates for longer and slower economic growth for longer, along with higher unemployment, particularly if the Australian economy slows further and is unable to soak up surplus labour from New Zealand.

At least David Parker has identified the problem – the National government’s aversion to growth policies.  He said today:

More instability in global markets is laying bare weakness in the New Zealand economy. That instability makes it more urgent to modernise the New Zealand economy to grow exports, jobs and wages, he says. “Poor economic news in the US, Europe and China, a drop in the Australian share market and instability in Greece are all contributing to unsettled markets. “But they are not the cause of New Zealand’s slow economy.

“The more unstable the global economy becomes, the more urgent it becomes to modernise the New Zealand economy with more exports encouraged by pro-growth tax reform, deeper savings and more innovation, “It is also imperative that the Canterbury rebuild is not further delayed, as this is an important part of economic activity in the next few years.”

Parker also laid out the options and consequences in a pre-Budget speech calling for change in the old orthodoxies. He’s absolutely right – time for change is well overdue. What’s coming at us doesn’t look pretty. I was about to do a post saying I hoped someone in Labour was doing some scenario planning and was very pleased to see that someone in politics has their eyes open.

 

80 comments on “At least Parker’s onto it”

  1. Draco T Bastard 1

    When are the politicians and economists going to realise that growth is unsustainable?

    • rosy 1.1

      An inherent contradiction or two …

      If there is global weakness then there is an underlying problem with focussing on export markets.

      I’m not sure that he gets the idea that to compete for bulk export markets means lower wages and greater environmental degradation to keep costs down and that is completely at odds with ‘growing’ wages.

      We can’t continue to use up resources and grow markets to export to in ever greater volumes. I’d like to hear some talk about a strong domestic market as well, although I guess that would mean people are paid enough to afford the products they’re making.

      • Carol 1.1.1

        +1
        Yes, I never understand the logic of this extreme focus on exports.

        • vto 1.1.1.1

          The focus on exports as a do-or-die thing is a myth.

          If you think about the mantra that says that unless NZ exports lots then we won’t be able to pay for anything is proven absolute bullshit by the fact that the entire globe prospers and pays for everything without exporting. Just as it could and has done in the past in NZ. Just as the entire USA economy has done for considerable periods in its past. The domestic economy is the driver. All any economy is, is everyone getting up each morning and going about their daily biz – nothing more and nothing less. It is about paying for the shelter you live in, the food you eat, the milk on the weetbix, the petrol you use to go to work, the sandwich you buy for lunch, the car you pay for, etc etc etc. It is solely about people and activity. The more activity, the more economic activity. It is all just domestic domestic domestic. Nothing else.

          The entire global economy is a domestic economy.

          • vto 1.1.1.1.1

            This cult of growth is driven by the banking system because without growth there is no way to pay for the interest.

            This is the most simple and deadly truth of the lot..

            • Puddleglum 1.1.1.1.1.1

              I’m not an economist but, from your description, it sounds as if ‘exporting’ is just a way to have more economic activity within a national economy than the national market can support – i.e., excess production.

              At the global level it must be zero sum unless the global population keeps growing.

              Or is it more complicated than that?

              Edit: Or, unless ‘demand’/consumption keeps growing – not just population 

          • travellerev 1.1.1.1.2

            Hi vto,

            Not trying to threatjack here but a couple of days ago you asked what Bilderberg was. here is a link to an RT vid about it!

        • geoff 1.1.1.2

          +1
          Either they (centrist politicians like parker) don’t really understand what’s going on or they are just saying things which are politically palatable to the mainstream. Either way I don’t want them calling the shots.

          The economic goal should be self-sustainability before worrying about exporting.
          The gross thing about NZ is that so many people are working hard just to pay for the basics when the resources for everyone to live comfortably are so abundant.

        • Draco T Bastard 1.1.1.3

          As a single market becomes saturated very quickly, especially with the massive productivity gain we’ve seen over the last few decades, export markets allow those excess products to be off loaded and thus maintain profits for the owners and to pay the interest that the banks demand for printing the money. Of course, as those export markets start to produce their own products and don’t need ours then we go back into poverty as the excess products we have no longer sell.

          We produce far more than we need but we got the free-market disease and don’t produce everything that we need. If we did produce everything that we needed (with a limited export/import trade for those things we couldn’t produce) then those productivity gains that we’ve been having would have us down to working about 2 hour per week each, there would be no poverty, we’d be borderline sustainable at worst and we’d probably be better off as well mostly due to improved social conditions.

          Of course, poverty is needed so that the rich and powerful can force everybody else to work harder so as to keep the rich and powerful rich and powerful. They can throw the fear of poverty at the workers to keep them working (this is the reason why the NACTs want to break unions and the welfare state).

        • lprent 1.1.1.4

          …extreme focus on exports

          The local population is too small to maintain an internal infrastructure at anything similar to our current economy and society.

          At an extreme end if there were no imports (ie without the cuban style embargo breaking) to sustain the infrastructure, I’d expect that we’d rapidly drop to a late 19th century economy over a two or three decades as the gear wore out. That would be accompanied with similar drops in public services and health.

          I started work at the peak of the local industrialation, and even then it was quite apparent that many of the bits of industrial gear that we depended apron to build our products for the local market (I was working at Ceramco) simply couldn’t be built here. And that was a reasonably low tech set of industries.

          That is why there is and always has been an extreme focus on exports in the nz economy. Even in the best case we need them to get the gear that we simply do not have the local resources, plant or expertise to build ourselves to bootstrap the local infrastructure.

          The real problem is our extreme focus on extractive exports like dairy where we can’t sustain current levels of production because of soil and water resource depletion, and where there is a ever present risk of disease deciminating the whole industry. The second issue is some of the crap that we waste our overseas funds on.

          • Draco T Bastard 1.1.1.4.1

            The local population is too small to maintain an internal infrastructure at anything similar to our current economy and society.

            At an extreme end if there were no imports (ie without the cuban style embargo breaking) to sustain the infrastructure, I’d expect that we’d rapidly drop to a late 19th century economy over a two or three decades as the gear wore out. That would be accompanied with similar drops in public services and health.

            You’re still thinking in the terms of the failed economic systems of the past. The dead weight loss of profit would have to be removed but we have the people and skills to maintain and develop the infrastructure that would allows us to maintain a similar economy to what we have now. Although we would be looking at a decrease in production of goods we’d still be able to maintain a similar living standard. All we’d really be looking at is a better distribution of the resources we have.

            I started work at the peak of the local industrialation, and even then it was quite apparent that many of the bits of industrial gear that we depended apron to build our products for the local market (I was working at Ceramco) simply couldn’t be built here.

            Even in the best case we need them to get the gear that we simply do not have the local resources, plant or expertise to build ourselves to bootstrap the local infrastructure.

            The US didn’t have the infrastructure that Britain had, Britain even tried to prevent them from having that infrastructure but they built it anyway. Britain is an even better example: She started out without even the knowledge that the US had from Britain.

            If we stop concentrating on over-production for export then we can redistribute the freed up people and resources to build stuff for NZ.

            If it can be built then we can damn well build it. We may start a few years behind what other countries are capable of but we can certainly do it.

    • muzza 1.2

      Only when they are no longer funding the politicians and economists will that stop!

  2. Ad 2

    Of my surviving uncles and aunties that lived through the Great Depression, this definitely feels different to them. There are no shadows of wars great or otherwise decimating the workforce, no great Influenza epidemic striking whole percentages of the population.

    But they know this is our Great Recession. Thinking it would take a decade to work through European and US domestic private debt was just wishful.

    I have been reading a coffee-table illustrated review of Roosevelt’s New Deal – and all the great works and organizations that were formed in response to crisis. I remember when Muldoon reacted to the oil crisis in the late 1970s, which was nowhere near as long as this, even if more acute.

    It’s time to get the outlier models out. Time for a programme and a politics larger then either the Greens or Labour have thought of to date. But what is it? And with such a weak state, is it still possible?

  3. Maui 3

    With Our Glorious Leader At The Helm Anything Is Possible !

  4. lefty 4

    Jeez!

    What century does Parker come from still talking about growth as the road to salvation.

  5. Peter 5

    What? This isn’t anything at all. Why do we have both National and Labour trying to out-growth each other. Policies such as this will just drive more activists towards the Greens, who seem to at least get it, even if they don’t necessarily have solutions.

  6. I agree with my green friends that the debate should not be about reigniting growth but about having a soft landing and working out how to feed everyone adequately, how to make sure everyone is looked after and how to keep civilization going in the meantime.

    The future need not be so scary.  We will have fewer flat screen tvs, drive less and spend less time overseas.  But we will have more time to spend with family, to socialize, and to educate ourselves.

    We just need to learn how to make the transition.  We need to forget exports and work out how to survive with dignity relying on local resources.

    Traditional concepts of economic growth will be as relevant as V8 holdens in years to come.

    • Ad 6.1

      But must that mean that the levels of public service shrink at the same time? We know that most of the income tax take already comes from the wealthy, even after the tax cuts that the wealthy got in 2009.

      Taxes pay for public services. Meaning, the kind of health system, education, Police, justice, and broadly social welfare that we have. We may well become a nation of virtuous peasants and be happier for it, but we still seem to want the same class sizes, health system etc derived (mostly) from tax income.

      If the economy really is going to decline for a very long time, then so will the state, surely, and all that the state provides. Any suggestions?

      • Draco T Bastard 6.1.1

        We know that most of the income tax take already comes from the wealthy…

        All the wealth comes from the country/nation (ie, the government) to begin with. We don’t need more taxes, we need to stop giving the wealth to the few.

        • Ad 6.1.1.1

          I don”t understand that first sentence.

          • Draco T Bastard 6.1.1.1.1

            Wealth doesn’t come from the rich, they take it from everybody else.

          • McFlock 6.1.1.1.2

            Their money comes from somewhere. Even if you don’t agree with the more extreme perspective that capitalist wealth are the proceeds of theft, surely you’d agree that the ability to gain and keep wealth is due in no small part to the existence of rule of law, infrastructure, education, and administration of the government.
                 
            Surely it’s fair that those who benefit most from that economy pay for their privilege?
             
             

            • KJT 6.1.1.1.2.1

              Money is not wealth.

              Wealth is the products and services it buys.

              The wealthy gain much greater access to and use of the products and services of our society.

              It is only fair that the pay in proportion to produce them.

    • vto 6.2

      I think mr micky that you are falling into a familiar trap in linking technological advancement with economic growth.

      I agree that economic growth, as it is currently defined and powered, will alter significantly, but I don’t see the link to any slowdown in technology or products. The two are somewhat different, although linked in many ways. For example, an early model flat-screen tv (are they vintage yet?) may have cost say 100 measures of raw material and energy to produce whereas a new one in the future may cost 2 measures of raw material and energy. Technological advancement does not need heaps of material and energy to advance. And also, of course, the need for low material and energy things will drive the technology in its very direction.

      It’s a bit of a mix-up and I don’t think the scenario will play out quite as simply as you portray.

      And since when have any V8s had relevance, except as pure entertainment and cultural exchange? That is their entire raison d’etre. A bit like the ballet.

      • mickysavage 6.2.1

        VTO

        A nuanced argument, how refreshing.

        I agree that technological advances are vital.  My simplistic nirvana prediction does not anticipate they will happen.  It is a hippy inspired desire for a simple lifestyle that is probably vital but may not be if the right technological advances are made.

        But I really hope they happen.

        I mentioned V8s as a symptom of the problem.  That some humans want to own a gas guzzling loud ostentatious pile of metal when a smaller more efficient one would be cheaper and more sustainable persuades me that some people will never get the idea of environmental preservation.

        I also can’t stand ballet! 

        • Dr Terry 6.2.1.1

          Well, some of us adore great ballet and I am sorry that it should be blighted in this context. If only life were a beautiful rhythmic art like ballet. May the Art, if necessary, extend beyond all arguments on exports, imports, economy, technology. The sublime, of course, is indescribable.

          • dancerwaitakere 6.2.1.1.1

            Some of us do like ballet, micky be careful ;)

            Ballet serves a much greater purpose than entertainment and cultural exchange, for the record.

            • mickysavage 6.2.1.1.1.1

              Aye

              I have a soft spot for trance music and most of my contemporaries think I have really bad taste … 

            • vto 6.2.1.1.1.2

              dancer and dr terry I think you have taken the wrong implication from V8s and ballet. I guess most ballet lovers wont like V8s and v-v, however there was no intention to malign either V8s or ballet. They both have wonderful balance, power, finesse and can turn heads, as well being cultural beacons. In addition, both attract the fairer sex.

        • Ad 6.2.1.2

          Sell the practise. And for your retirement income, buy something other than a couple of rentals.

          You’ve laid a great challenge for yourself there.

          Make it happen Mickey.

      • Colonial Viper 6.2.2

        For example, an early model flat-screen tv (are they vintage yet?) may have cost say 100 measures of raw material and energy to produce whereas a new one in the future may cost 2 measures of raw material and energy.

        With all due respect, and I know you are a smart dude VTO, but this is fucking lunatic growth blinded madness.

        But let’s say you are right.

        An early model flat screen TV cost $40,000 in money and a full 100 measures of raw material and energy. Throughout the whole of NZ, there were say no more than 1000 people who would buy a unit at that price.

        A total of 100,000 measures of raw material and energy are used up to produce those 1000 units.

        NOW

        the latest model even bigger flat screen TV costs just $1,000 in money and only 2 measures of raw material and energy (frankly I think the 2 figure is bunk, way too optimistic but lets go with it).

        But now 500,000 people in NZ buy one, since $1000 is a steal. Especially on no interest credit and a 20% off Boxing Day sale.

        So now 1,000,000 measures of raw material and energy get used up. That’s TEN times more resources used, even though each TV unit is produced way more efficiently!

        GET IT???

        The more advanced, efficient and cheap we can do this shit, the faster we end up burning through our remaining limited resources.

        In other words

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox

        • Draco T Bastard 6.2.2.1

          That’s why we have limits.

          ATM, we use money as the limiting tool but money is infinitely printed by the banks removing the limits that it’s supposed to produce. And we’re told by the politicians and economists that removing these limits is a Good Thing (everyone becoming richer). All of which means that we need to set better limits, ones that people can see and understand that they’re hard limits. We can live well within those hard limits but infinite growth and everyone becoming a multi-millionaire isn’t on the cards.

          • Colonial Viper 6.2.2.1.1

            Money was never designed to be used as an environmental extraction limiting factor. Don’t assign it a functionality it wasn’t designed in mind for.

            • Draco T Bastard 6.2.2.1.1.1

              Why do you think that the NACTs keep going on about having to have the money first, balanced budgets and what have you?

              • Colonial Viper

                Money is not a constraint for the neoliberals.

                • Draco T Bastard

                  No, it’s not, it’s supposed to be though. It’s the limits that it sets that causes the distribution of the scarce resources that we have. The idea of growth that the economists and politicians push is the idea that we can over come those limits. Growth, in the minds of the economists and politicians, takes us out of the zero sum game that those scarce resources force us into and takes us into non-zero-sum game nirvana. They just haven’t clicked that it has never worked and never will do.

                  • KJT

                    Still defining money as a commodity .. It is not. It is merely a token. At the end of the day money represents work.

                    At some stage all money relates to something produced by work.

                    If the resources to produce something is available locally we do not need money from overseas to produce it.

                    That is where Muldoon stuffed up. He bought the IMF line we should borrow and pay interest to overseas private banking for development within New Zealand. (To be fair, he was only one of many).

                    If we had borrowed against ourselves we could have banked the gains from think big as hydrocarbon prices rise.

                    It is the need to constantly pay back compounding money interest, to banks, shareholders and other rentiers) with real work/production that necessitates growth.

                    An impossibility as the finance sector has increased the amount of money owed way beyound possible production.

                    Overheard by the CIA.
                    “Should we bomb wall street”
                    “No, They are doing more damage to the USA than a thousand bombs”

                    • Draco T Bastard

                      Still defining money as a commodity…

                      No, I’m not. Once I got to the definition of money in the present paradigm as An abstract representation of perceived value it became obvious that money was a tool used to accommodate the distribution of the limited resources that we have and not a very good one as people started concentrating on the money rather than the resources and then invented ways to infinitely inflate the amount of money in circulation.

        • vto 6.2.2.2

          Well you have a point CV but I guess my own point could have been shown with a better example.

          My point was that economic growth can be separated from technological advancement, but I did qualify it by saying that the two are heavily linked and mixed up, which is what you seem to have focused on.

          Sure, more tvs would be produced at 2 measures which in the end would have a greater effect on the growth problem, but the point is that things will be produced with next to nix. Economic growth will fail due to so many more cheap tvs but the techonology will continue – recall mickysavage’s original point that we will all live in flower gardens again and we wont even have a printing machine.

      • Colonial Viper 6.2.3

        Technological advancement does not need heaps of material and energy to advance.

        This is also totally bunk!

        Chemical reagents, rare earth metals, complex fabrication facilities, networks of logistics, legions of scientists and specialists (each requiring a massive investment of money, time and effort), etc.

        FFS there is a very good reason why there is no replacement for the space shuttle. There is no fusion reactor. There is no cure for cancer. The furthest space craft from the Earth were launched in the 1970’s and nothing out there is even planned to come anywhere close.

        Technological advancement is sliding up against a fucking wall. Shit slowed down big time from the late 1980’s on.

        • Draco T Bastard 6.2.3.1

          This is also totally bunk!

          No it isn’t.

          Chemical reagents, rare earth metals, complex fabrication facilities, networks of logistics, legions of scientists and specialists (each requiring a massive investment of money, time and effort), etc.

          All of which we have.

          FFS there is a very good reason why there is no replacement for the space shuttle.

          Yep, we privatised everything.

          Shit slowed down big time from the late 1980′s on.

          Slowed down != stopped.

          • McFlock 6.2.3.1.1
             
             

             

            FFS there is a very good reason why there is no replacement for the space shuttle.

            Yep, we privatised everything
            It’s also a dumb idea for LEO insertion. Reusable is good, but the entire flying thing is only good for earth-earth travel. Earth-space or space-earth is best with rockets and capsules.
             
            Oh, and that space programmes are expensive bling-bling for nations. Particuarly those involving putting folk up there.
             
             
             

            • Draco T Bastard 6.2.3.1.1.1

              Well, the replacement was/is going to be a standard rocket/capsules until it got canned (put on hold or something).

              Oh, and that space programmes are expensive bling-bling for nations.

              Only after you’ve gone round privatising everything and dropping tax rates on the rich to SFA.

          • Colonial Viper 6.2.3.1.2

            All of which we have.

            We have it NOW

            But with peak debt, peak energy, we won’t be able to MAINTAIN IT in the near future, let alone maintain progress.

            Slowed down != stopped.

            Sure, getting more pixels on an iPad screen is progress. Big fucking help that’s going to be when the transisters wear out and you start getting dead pixels. Of course, by then you can just consume a brand new iPad version 8.

            • Draco T Bastard 6.2.3.1.2.1

              That’s what setting hard limits does – ensure that we have enough for the future as well.

              • Colonial Viper

                The technology of the future is going to be the technology of the past. Steam and coal.

                • Draco T Bastard

                  Nope. I can see computers in NZ’s future made using electricity from geothermal/hydro/wind/solar. We have the resources here to make them and we’re well set to get electricity generation from renewable sources.

                  • Colonial Viper

                    Sure, but those PC’s will run at Pentium III speeds.

                    How is that not the technology of yesteryear?

                • McFlock

                  That’s the power source.
                   
                  The technology will continue to improve. E.g. much higher pressures and much more efficient fuel use.

                  • Colonial Viper

                    The power source is 99% of what counts! You can’t make it, ship it or operate it without. Without, it becomes an expensive paperweight.

                    E.g. much higher pressures and much more efficient fuel use.

                    Improve fuel efficiency by 25%, while the number of cars on the road increases by 35%.

                    Do the math.

                    • McFlock

                      Stop trying to whack the same technology onto changing circumstances.
                             
                      So we might not all be driving H2 hummers that run on super. The point is that moving from one energy source to another might not be the cataclysm you’re predicting. Bad for a while, yes, but not the end of civilisation.
                              
                      Climate change – both AGW and ocean acidification – are more serious problems than phasing out oil as a fuel source.
                       

                    • Draco T Bastard

                      Why are you two talking about cars? They’ll be gone as we just won’t be able to afford them. We could only afford them with cheap oil and that will be gone for NZ sometime before the end of this decade.

                    • McFlock

                      Meh.
                           
                      CV brought them up. Long live public transport, I say.

  7. Poission 7

    The fundamental problem in the growth model is the debt component,this is the unsustainable function that forces instability and the oscillations in economic and business cycles ie boom bust cycles.

    Minsky used this as his model in the financial instability Hypothesis.

    http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=161024

    Stabilizing an unstable system ,that has moved far from equilibrium,is both difficult and has unpredictable consequences if the system is open,which it is.

    One of the rectifying valves in the NZ system is the open exchange rate,which has reduced the falls in commodity prices which is seen globally.

    The exchanges rate however is subject to predation such as arbitrage from the “cash and carry ” trade who can borrow at a lower rate overnight in europe nd invest at a higher rate in NZ.

    This would be alleviated by lower interest rates ,which again fuel bubbles mostly in the AK market.Hence the RBNZ is limited in its response unless it specifies equity rates,or alternatively Govt policy broadens the tax market into either CGT a property tax or an asset tax.

    There are still substantive opportunities for NZ exporters in a low exchange rate regime,low internal inflation rate environment.

    These opportunities are often in more labour intensive areas such as timber production on the east coast where the forest resources are coming to production.

    • Ad 7.1

      Bowalley Road rails against the banks and their usurious debt manufacturing as well today. Worth a look.

      Do we know what would really work in their place? Is it time for another State Advances Corporation?

      • mickysavage 7.1.1

        We do need to have the debate.  Why do we allow the Banks to create credit? Why not let the State do this?  Kiwibank is perhaps the start of what we have to do.

      • Draco T Bastard 7.1.2

        Monstrous Power

        Do we know what would really work in their place?

        Yes, removal of the private corporations to print money and the state taking that power back.

      • Poission 7.1.3

        The debt manufacturing by banks is more a result of imaginary growth ie balance sheet revaluations of tangible assets by property and asset owners.

        A simplistic example is a high st property owner who increases the value of the asset by revaluation,and expects a reward by an increased rent,if the unrealized capital growth brought a constraint, read property growth tax the balance sheet revaluations and property price increases would reduce proportionally.

      • KJT 7.1.4

        Public banking.

        Worked for New Zealand in the 30’s.

        And the USA.

        It is working in many places. Now!

        http://publicbanking.wordpress.com/

  8. tc 9

    There’s more intelligent and informed discussion in this thread about economic alternatives than you’ll find in a years worth of MSM……what does that say about what the sheeple get fed.

  9. tracey 10

    I notice that both Key and even Christine Fletcher (Auckland Councillor) are wearing out the “we don’t want to be like Greece” scare tactic. Sadly it’s working but NZ and Greece are more than just geographically half a world apart.

    Politicians who do this (and it’s most parties, except maybe the greens (only maybe)) do my head in because it’s deliberate dishonesty to scare people into agreement.

    • Uturn 10.1

      Well if organisations like the Greens do not refute the Greek Myth at every opportunity, then your “maybe” becomes something a bit clearer.

    • vto 10.2

      “because it’s deliberate dishonesty ”

      Yep, exactly. I watched Key intensely closely last night when I saw him pull out that line “we dont want to end up like Greece because that is where we are going” for a flicker of of a twitch, but he held it calm. He had the line prepared so the facial rigisity was already pre-programmed.

      Key is a dishonest wanker.

      Want to not be like Greece? Take the banking function out of private ownership and then the interest payments disappear, in a relative sense because the interest would effectively be paid from ourselves to ourselves instead of shareholders in privately owned banks.

      It is a complete no-brainer. (which says something further about Key)

      • Draco T Bastard 10.2.1

        The entire financial system has been designed to transfer wealth into the hands of the few. It does that very well. Taking that power out of the hands of the private banksters is essential but no party, so far, is willing to even suggest such a thing.

  10. KJT 11

    The idea that every country is going to out export every other country to prosperity is a delusion.

    Even Ricardo admitted comparative advantage had its limits. He did not say England should stop producing wine altogether.

    The only ones that will win that game are the countries that have armies to enforce trade rules that benefit themselves.

    Like the USA now and Britain in the past.

    • muzza 11.1

      And that is exactly what globalization was designed to achieve, its working as expected!

      The question is, what happens next…

      Any party who is not contesting the private banking system, and advocating the printing of sovereign currency, is part of the problem, not the solution…

      All those who cling to the hope “their team” will bring us salvation, are kidding themselves, and taking those who know better down the toilet with them…

      Cheers

      Edit – Yes VTO, Key is a dishonest Banker – Why is he never asked who he is working for…
      Clue, he signed a NATO accord!

  11. What gets me when I read posts like the one above and the reactions to it is the total naivete that pervades it.

    In Greece towns have to <a href="What gets me when I read posts like the one above and the reactions to it is the total naivete that pervades it.

    In Greece towns have to feed prisoners on a volunteer basis otherwise they starve. Their military on their bases are running out of food. Their power grid is on the verge of collapsing, they don’t have medicines any more and yesterday Spain announced it needs a bail out for their banks and Italy is one the way.

    That means that in two months their prisoners are going to be starving and their power grids will be on the way out.

    Here is a nice chart which shows how much money is needed and how much is available. No money, no food, no power grid.

    No power grid means no water, no food (as in no fridges) and there is on average perhaps one to two days of food in the supermarkets but according to the baltic dry index global trade is taking another huge hit indicating that the unsustainable system of trying to feed a population with food grown halfway across the planet is collapsing.

    All major countries reinstated their border controls some time ago in order to prevent large population movements.

    People in need of water and food do not think of flatscreen TV’s and that is an understatement.

    People in need of water die within three days and those in need of food turn to cannibalism in a week.

    We are not talking about a depression here. Take Holland for example (recently downgraded too).
    Holland’s population is 17 million people. The country produces nothing as all their factories have been moved to China (which by the way is collapsing too). In order to feed the population the country needs a bout 70 times more arable land than it currently has. It imports everything it needs from South America, Africa and other countries with a surplus of land and produce.

    As our current financial system collapses under the weight of the Derivatives bubble the money flow created as debt will dry up (See Greece as example) and people will start to die. It is that simple.

    That is the reality of Europe and America (100 million unemployed) and China (Bejing alone 50% more empty houses than the entire US).

    There will be no soft landing. There will be starvation, social mayhem as the global population plunges back to what the globe can actually sustain and a rude awakening that perhaps flat screen TV’s and the latest video game are not as important as the TV ads made them out to be.

    Unless… unless every Nation takes back its own money printing system and starts investing in their populations own infrastructures to revive economies locally. But with agenda 21 waiting in the wings that is not going to happen. Our leaders don’t want that. They want us dead. To them we are Cockroaches and useless eaters. > on a volunteer basis otherwise they starve. Their military on their bases are running out of food. Their power grid is on the verge of collapsing, they don’t have medicines any more and yesterday Spain announced it needs a bail out for their banks and Italy is one the way.

    That means that in two months their prisoners are going to be starving and their power grids will be on the way out.

    Here is a nice chart which shows how much money is needed and how much is available. No money, no food, no power grid.

    No power grid means no water, no food (as in no fridges) and there is on average perhaps one to two days of food in the supermarkets but according to the baltic dry index global trade is taking another huge hit indicating that the unsustainable system of trying to feed a population with food grown halfway across the planet is collapsing.

    All major countries reinstated their border controls some time ago in order to prevent large population movements.

    People in need of water and food do not think of flatscreen TV’s and that is an understatement.

    People in need of water die within three days and those in need of food turn to cannibalism in a week.

    We are not talking about a depression here. Take Holland for example (recently downgraded too).
    Holland’s population is 17 million people. The country produces nothing as all their factories have been moved to China (which by the way is collapsing too). In order to feed the population the country needs a bout 70 times more arable land than it currently has. It imports everything it needs from South America, Africa and other countries with a surplus of land and produce.

    As our current financial system collapses under the weight of the Derivatives bubble the money flow created as debt will dry up (See Greece as example) and people will start to die. It is that simple.

    That is the reality of Europe and America (100 million unemployed) and China (Bejing alone 50% more empty houses than the entire US).

    There will be no soft landing. There will be starvation, social mayhem as the global population plunges back to what the globe can actually sustain and a rude awakening that perhaps flat screen TV’s and the latest video game are not as important as the TV ads made them out to be.

    Unless… unless every Nation takes back its own money printing system and starts investing in their populations own infrastructures to revive economies locally. But with agenda 21 waiting in the wings that is not going to happen. Our leaders don’t want that. They want us dead. To them we are Cockroaches and useless eaters.

  12. In Moderation I think too many links.

    The first sentence about Greece should read: In Greece towns have to feed prisoners on a voluntary base otherwise they starve.

  13. Sam 14

    So what are Labours ideas then??

    I’m all for making changes but what are the changes they propose making??

    • mike e 14.1

      samlabour can;t put forward exact policy right now because the right will steal it and call it their policy but looking at David Parkers outline should give you an idea.

    • Draco T Bastard 14.2

      Last time I looked, Labour weren’t planning on making any changes. Just keeping the failed system that has just fallen over – again.

      • ad 14.2.1

        I once wondered on this site what success would look like for some of the more extreme commentators on this site. And instantly regretted it, because they then told me. Commentators inevitably ended up with a spectacularly strong state – like Cuba but without the charisma oratory, or Rhumba.

        The kind of crisis that would precipitate revolution into an extreme form of government beyond the three main parties here is never predictable in its outome, is usually full of massacres, and is usually expecting some organisational entity to emerge from this carnage that is a state, has no money worries or debt, redistributes everything, no-one gets rich, and there is otherwise something resembling Thomas Moore’s Utopia. Which I loved.

        If one were anarchistically inclined, one could say that as soon as there is a system, there is failure. I’m not one of those.

        Labour supporters such as myself tend to have a limited ideological elasticity. Perhaps too sensitive to what other people think, too petrified of losing again.

        No-one wants to will crisis, let alone any more of New Zealand’s sustained decline.

        • Sam 14.2.1.1

          ad – Huh?

          Draco – that is what it really seems to me too, more of the same but maybe with a bit more taxation, a bit more borrowing and a bit more wasted govt spending.

  14. Johnm 15

    Kevin Moore is onto it as well as to what’s happening and its effects on us:

    Link:
    http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/22968224

    Scroll through to start of Kevin’s presentation at 1hour 33 minutes to the NPDC.

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    The MANA Movement is supporting Leader Hone Harawira’s application for a judicial re-count in the Te Tai Tokerau electorate for the 2014 general election. President Lisa McNab says there are a number of serious issues of concern regarding the ability...
    Mana | 07-10
  • MANA to fight mass privatisation of state housing
    Announcements over the past 12 hours from the Minister responsible for Housing New Zealand, Bill English, and Minister for Social Housing, Paula Bennett, make clear the government’s intention for the mass privatisation of state housing. This comes during the middle...
    Mana | 07-10
  • Journalists have right to protect sources
    Legal authorities must respect the right of journalist Nicky Hager to protect the source of his material for his Dirty Politics book under Section 68 of the Evidence Act, Acting Labour Leader David Parker says. “It is crucial in an...
    Labour | 06-10
  • It shouldn’t take the Army to house the homeless
    National’s move to speed up its state house sell-off shows it is bankrupt of new ideas, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “National has been in office for six years, yet the housing crisis has got worse every month and...
    Labour | 06-10
  • Government must lift social housing supply, not shuffle the deck chairs
    National's decision to shift the state provision of housing to third parties is a smokescreen for the Government decreasing the provision of affordable housing, the Green Party said today."What National should be doing is increasing the supply of both social...
    Greens | 06-10
  • Election 2014 – the final count
    While we have to wait for the final booth level counts we can now see how well we did in the specials and look at electorate level data. First off special votes (and disallowed/recounted votes etc). There was a change...
    Greens | 06-10
  • We need more houses, not Ministers
    The Government’s decision to have three housing Ministers will create a dog’s breakfast of the portfolio and doesn’t bode well for fixing the country’s housing crisis, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “New Zealanders need more houses, not more Ministers....
    Labour | 05-10
  • MANA’S CHALLENGE TO THE 51st PARLIAMENT
    Ten years ago I led 50,000 Maori on the historic FORESHORE AND SEABED MARCH from Te Rerenga Wairua to the very steps of this parliament, in a march against the greatest land grab in the history of this country –...
    Mana | 03-10
  • Is this really necessary?
    No one denies chief executives should be well paid for their skills and experience, but it is the efforts of all employees which contribute to company profits, Labour’s Acting Leader David Parker says. “Salaries paid to chief executives come at...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Lyttelton Port workers also deserve pay rises
    Hard slog by Lyttelton Port workers contributed to strong financial growth for the company and they deserve to be rewarded for their work as much as its chief executive, says Labour’s Acting Leader David Parker. “Lyttelton Port chief executive Peter...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Māori Party must seek guarantees on Māori seats
    Labour is calling on the Māori Party to ensure protection of the Māori seats is part of its coalition deal with National which is being considering this weekend, Labour’s Māori Affairs spokesperson Nanaia Mahuta says. “For the third consecutive term,...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Donaghys job losses another blow to Dunedin
    The loss of 30 jobs from Donaghys rope and twine factory is yet another blow to the people and economy of Dunedin, says Dunedin South Labour MP Clare Curran. “Donaghys was founded in 1876; the company has survived two world...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Dairy price fall shows urgent need to diversify
    The overnight drop in milk prices shows New Zealand’s overreliance on the dairy industry puts our economy in a vulnerable position, says Acting Labour Leader David Parker. “Dairy prices fell 7.3 per cent overnight and have almost halved since February....
    Labour | 02-10
  • Tasks aplenty for new Health Minister
    One of the first jobs for the new Minister of Health must be to provide an honest and transparent report into surgery waiting times and exactly how many Kiwis are not having their health needs met, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette...
    Labour | 02-10
  • About Curwen Ares Rolinson
    Curwen Ares Rolinson – Curwen Ares Rolinson is a firebrand young nationalist presently engaged in acts of political resistance deep behind enemy lines amidst the leafy boughs of Epsom. He is affiliated with the New Zealand First Party; although his...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kelly Ellis
    Kelly Ellis.Kelly Ellis – As a child, Kelly Ellis didn’t so much fall into the cracks, but willfully wriggled her way into them. Ejected from Onslow College – a big job in the 70s – Kelly worked in car factories,...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kate Davis
    Kate Davis.Kate Davis – Having completed her BA in English and Politics, Kate is now starting her MA. Kate works as a volunteer advocate at Auckland Action Against Poverty and previously worked for the New Zealand Prostitutes Collective. Kate writes...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Parker does a Shearer – oh for a Labour Leader who can challenge msm fals...
    Sigh. It seems David Parker has done a Shearer… Like a cult and too red – Parker on LabourLabour leadership contender David Parker says Labour borders on feeling like “a cult” and must look at its branding – including its...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • A brief word on the hundreds of millions NZ is spending on the secret intel...
    The enormity of the mass surveillance state NZ Government’s have built carries a huge price tag… Kiwis pay $103m ‘membership fee’ for spyingThe $103 million taxpayer funding of New Zealand’s intelligence agencies is effectively a membership fee for joining the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Where. Is. Jason. Ede?
    Where. Is. Jason. Ede?...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Labour’s Din of Inequity
    Watching Labour’s leadership candidates on Q+A on Sunday, I noticed the ongoing use of terms like “opportunity” and “aspiration”, and “party of the workers”. What do these mean? We glean much from Labour, and from the media about Labour, but not...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • “Blue-Greenwash” fails the test when it comes to endangered dolphins
    National’s pre-election promises saw some wins for the environment – perhaps as the party sought to appease its “Blue-Green” voters and broaden its popular appeal. Some of the ecological gains were a long time in the making, overdue even– such...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Reasons not to be cheerful, Part #272b
    Why don’t you get back into bed? The next few years — the rest of this century — are not going to be pretty. There is an obvious disconnect between any remaining political ambition to fix climate change and the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • OIA protocols and official advice ignored to hide Child Poverty
    It might not seem so now, but child poverty was a major election issue. What a pity we did not have the full debate. In that debate it would have been very helpful to have seen the Ministry of Social...
    The Daily Blog | 20-10
  • Previewing the 4 candidates for Leader of the Labour Party
    The extraordinary outbursts by Shearer last week highlights just how toxic that Caucus is. Shearer was on every major media platform as the ABC attack dog tearing into Cunliffe in the hope of diminishing Cunliffe’s support of Little by tearing...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – the sudden explosion of ‘left’ blogs
    Time to Teach or more people will suffer from P.A.I.D. Political And Intellectual Dysmorphia.I was on the Twitter and a guy followed me so of course I did the polite thing and followed him back. He wrote a blog so...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Ego vs Eco
    Ego vs Eco...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • We can’t let the Roastbuster case slip away
    Those of us (like me) left with hope that the police would aggressively follow through on the large amount of evidence on offer to them (let’s not forget they forgot they even had some at one point) in the Roastbusters...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Food, shelter and medicine instead of bombs and bullets
    The on-going conflict across the Middle East – due in large part to the US-led invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq – has created another humanitarian crisis of biblical proportion. The essentials of life are desperately needed in Iraq and Syria...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • The politics of electorate accommodations
    National’s electorate accommodations with ACT and United Future were a big factor in it winning re-election. Interestingly, there is another electorate accommodation scenario whereby the centre-left could have come out on top, even with the same distribution of party votes....
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Why you should join the TPPA Action on 8 November
    On 8 November 2014, thousands of Kiwis will take part in the International Day of Action to protest the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA). The rally cry for us is TPPA – Corporate Trap, Kiwis Fight Back. Why should you join...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • GUEST BLOG – Patrick O’Dea: no new coal mines
    Green Party and Mana Party policy is “NO NEW COAL MINES!” Auckland Coal Action is trying to put this policy into action on the ground. ACA after a hard fought two year campaign waged alongside local residents and Iwi, in...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Comparing Police action – Hager raid vs Roast Buster case
    This satire had the NZ Police contact TDB and threaten us with 6months in prison for using their logo.   The plight of Nicky Hager and the draconian Police actions against him has generated over  $53 000 in donations so...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • Malala Yousafzai, White Saviour Complexes and Local Resistance
    Last week, Malala Yousafzai was the co-recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize. Since her exposure to the worldwide spotlight, her spirit, wisdom and strength have touched the hearts of people everywhere. However, there have been cynics who have argued that...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • Jason Ede is back – but no media can interview him?
    Well, well, well. Jason Ede, the main figure connected to John Key’s office and the Dirty Politics black ops is back with a company with deep ties to the National Party. One thing you can say about the right –...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Leadership Transitions In Other Parties: A ...
    As cannot have escaped anyone’s attention by now, the country is presently in the grips of an election and campaign that will help determine the fate of the nation for years to come. It’s gripping stuff – with clear divides...
    The Daily Blog | 17-10
  • SkyCity worker says she faces losing her house
    SkyCity worker Carolyn Alpine told the company annual shareholder’s meeting today that she faced the prospect of losing her house because the company had cut her shifts from two a week to one without consultation. The solo mother, has worked...
    The Daily Blog | 17-10
  • Greg O’Connor’s latest push to arm cops & 5 reasons not to
    I was wondering at what point within a 3rd term of National that Police Cheerleader Greg O’Connor would start trying to demand cops be armed. O’Connor must have thought to himself, ‘if bloody Key can get us and the GCSB vast new...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • You can’t have crisis without ISIS
    So the new scary bogeyman ISIS might have chemical weapons that the US secretly found in Iraq, but America didn’t want to expose this find because the WMDs were actually built and made by the US and Europe, the two powers...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • NZ WINS UN SPIN THE BOTTLE! Privately sucking up to America for a decade me...
    Oh, we are loved! Little old NZ, the 53rd state of America after Israel and Australia, gets to sit at the adults table for the special dinner party that is the UN Security Council. How delightful, a decade of privately...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • MEDIA BLOG – Myles Thomas – A World Without Advertising
    Non-commercial broadcasting and media. It’s a solution for all manner of problems ailing our tender nation… voter engagement, unaccountable governance, apathy, stupefaction, public education, science in schools, arts appreciation, cultural cringe… But no-one could’ve guessed that non-commercial media might solve...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • March against war – 2pm Saturday 25th October
    March against war – 2pm Saturday 25th October...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • Whack a mole as US govt foreign policy
    Whack-A-Mole was a popular arcade game from my youth.  It consisted of a waist high cabinet with holes in the top. Plastic moles seemingly randomly pop out of these holes. The purpose of the game was to hit as many...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • In Paean of Debt
    This week is ‘Money Week’. It’s an opportunity to promote to the middle classes, and anyone else who will listen, the virtues of wise ‘investment’. The aims are to promote the mystical (and indeed mythical) virtues of saving for the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • The last 48 hours – Poverty denial, war denial and unapologetic abuse of ...
    The bewildering speed of events that simply end in Key shrugging and proclaiming he doesn’t really give a shit is coming think and fast as the Government suddenly appreciate the full spectrum dominance they now enjoy. Here is Radio NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – Mana 2.0 Rebooted
    Internationally the news is that Evo Morales of Bolivia won big with Left Wing policies But what are the chances that the Left will make a resurgence in this country? As the internecine struggles between the Left and the Right...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • The Blomfield IPCA letter – Has Dirty Politics leaked into the NZ Police ...
    It’s difficult to know what to make of the IPCA letter to Matthew Blomfield over Slater’s continued insistence that the hard drive taken from Matthew wasn’t stolen.  Slater has selectively cherry picked the Police referring back to his claim that Blomfeild perjured...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • ​Media release: Rail and Maritime Transport Union – Auckland move for K...
    The Rail and Maritime Transport Union is questioning a KiwiRail proposal to progressively relocate its Zero Harm personnel from Wellington to Auckland. “The purpose of the Zero Harm team is to drive KiwiRail’s performance in health and safety.  Rail is a...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • Amnesty International – Friend request from an IS militant
    There’s always that one person, that one Facebook friend, usually a musician or event promoter, who, when you so foolishly accept their friend request, will completely inundate your news feed with copious event invitations and promotions. The person who, despite...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • NZ should follow the UK and recognize the Palestinian state
    Over the past two weeks, the United Kingdom and Sweden have made headlines through their decisions to recognize the state of Palestine. They are hardly the first nations to do so. Indeed, 134 countries have, in various ways, given formal...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • The Discordant Chimes of Freedom: Why Labour has yet to be forgiven.
    WHY DOES THE ELECTORATE routinely punish Labour and the Greens for their alleged “political correctness” but not National? It just doesn’t seem fair. Consider, for example, the Crimes (Substituted Section 59) Amendment Act 2007 – the so-called “anti-smacking legislation” –...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • Hosking or Henry – Which right wing crypto fascist clown do you want to w...
    So Mediaworks are finally going to make some actual money from their eye watering contract with Paul Henry by launching a new multi-platform Breakfast show over TV, Radio and internet. This is great news for Campbell Live who have dodged...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Families need more money to reduce child poverty
    Prime Minister John Key is mistaken to rule out extending the In Work Tax Credit to all poor children (The Nation 11th Oct) and Child Poverty Action Group challenges government advisors to come up with a more cost effective way...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – Don’t shit on my dream
    Once were dreamers. A large man, walks down the road and, even from 200 yards there’s light showing between his big arms and bigger body. It’s as if he’s put tennis balls under his arms. Two parking wardens walk out...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Labour and ‘special interests’
    The media narrative of Labour is that it is unpopular because it’s controlled by ‘special interests’. This ‘special interests’ garbage is code for gays, Maoris, wimin and unionists. We should show that argument the contempt it deserves. The next Labour...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Ru...
    . . Continued from: Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Tahi) . National’s housing development project: ‘Gateway’ to confusion . Perhaps nothing better illustrates National’s lack of a coherent housing programme than the ‘circus’ that is...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Here’s what WINZ are patronisingly saying to people on welfare when they ...
    Yesterday, a case manager from WINZ called to tell me that I needed to “imagine what I would do if I did not have welfare”. I replied “Well, I guess if I couldn’t live at home, I would be homeless.”...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • David Shearer’s ‘no feminist chicks’ mentality highlights all that is...
    Mr Nasty pays a visit Shearer’s extraordinary outburst last night on NZs favourite redneck TV, The Paul Henry Show, is a reminder of all that is wrong within the Labour Caucus right now… He said the current calls for a female or...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Greenpeace 1 – Shell 0
    Greenpeace 1 – Shell 0...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – A Tale Of Two Cities
    Sunday was surreal. I went for a drive and ended up in a different country. It wasn’t intentional but those days of too many literally intertextual references seldom are. There is no doubt that the Sunday drive this week had...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Key raises terror threat level to justify war in Iraq and now the SIS need ...
    Have we learned nothing from rushing into war? It’s embarrassing Key has raised our terror threat from ‘very low’ to ‘low’ so he can justify military action in Iraq. Watching him pimp for an American war is as sick as...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Socialism? in France; Austerity in Europe
    On Sunday I stumbled upon this recent New York Times column The Fall of France by Paul Krugman. Then I caught BBC’s Newsnight interview with France’s ‘Socialist’ Prime Minister Manuel Valls. Krugman notes that the Socialists came to power on an anti-austerity mandate, but completely squandered their opportunity...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • So Snowden and Greenwald were right – again – NZ Embassies spying for A...
    Well, well, well. What do we have here… NZ embassies involved in covert intelligence work for US – reportsNew Zealand’s embassies have been involved in covert intelligence gathering work on behalf of the United States, a fresh batch of classified...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Why David Parker *isn’t* a credible choic...
    The one electoral contest this year that a Labour leader is sure to win heated up over the weekend with the late entry of Finance Spokesman (and interim caretaker leader) David Parker into Labour’s leadership race. I’d blogged late last...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • DIA undercover investigation leads to jailing
    An undercover Internal Affairs investigation has led to a Hastings man being jailed for three and half years....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Call on Minister McCully to pursue the case of Balibo Five
    Media Information: Call on Minister McCully to pursue the case of journalist Gary Cunningham and the Balibo Five...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Australia and NZ actions on press freedoms alarming
    Global support for investigative journalism in Australia and New Zealand is a welcome response to law changes and a police raid, says the Pacific Freedom Forum...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Call for release of French journalists in West Papua
    West Papua Action Auckland, the EPMU Print and Media Council and the NZ Media Freedom Network call on the Minister of Foreign Affairs to speak out in support of the two French TV journalists whose trial has just begun in...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Court of Appeal: Dotcom v 20th Century Fox Film Corporation
    A The appeal is dismissed. B The 20 August 2014 order of the High Court dealing with confidentiality and the 29 August 2014 order of this Court dealing with confidentiality are set aside. C The confidentiality orders set out in...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Glassons Blasted For Glamourising Animal Cruelty
    Clothing brand Glassons have found themselves embroiled in another controversy after launching a new advert featuring a girl riding a bull. Animal advocacy organisation SAFE have asked them to remove the ad immediately as it glamourises animal cruelty....
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Smuggling honey into New Zealand isn’t sweet
    Smuggling honey into New Zealand isn’t sweet Federated Farmers Bee Industry Group applauds the tough line taken by Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI) Border Staff at Auckland Airport. In deporting the couple found trying to smuggle bee products...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Taxpayers’ Union Responds to Joyce on Corporate Welfare
    Responding to Economic Development Minister Steven Joyce’s defence of corporate welfare , Jim Rose, the author of Monopoly Money , a Taxpayers Union report on corporate welfare since 2008, says:...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Speech from the Throne brings welcome focus on children
    Today’s speech from the Throne confirms the Government’s focus on children, youth and their families in the areas of health, education, youth employment, poverty alleviation and Whānau Ora; now the challenge is to ensure every child in New Zealand...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • John’s Job Fairs no fix for unemployment and poverty
    “John Key has clearly been looking to the US for his latest bright idea on dealing with employment issues,” says Auckland Action Against Poverty coordinator Sue Bradford. “Job fairs where the desperately unemployed queue in their corporate best to compete...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Speech From the Throne Foreshadows More Corporate Welfare
    Responding to the Governor General’s Speech from the Throne, which outlined that the Government’s intentions for the next Parliamentary term would include further Business Growth Agenda initiatives, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Green MP to speak at panel on Rainbow Mental Health
    Hamilton, New Zealand: Recently re-elected Green Party MP Jan Logie will be a guest speaker at a panel on the mental health of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Trangender, Takataapui and Intersex people taking place on November 1st as part of the...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Evidence Supports GE Moratorium
    Federated Farmers spokesman Graham Smith's call for a 'rethink' on release of GeneticallyEngineered organisms is misguided, and instead it is time for a formal moratorium on GMOs in the environment.(1)...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Chatham Rise mining could have impact on whales and dolphins
    Wellington, 21 October 2014--Mining phosphate on the Chatham Rise, off the east coast of New Zealand’s south island, could potentially have many impacts on marine mammals like whales and dolphins, the Environmental Protection Agency was told today....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Council endorses Nanaia Mahuta as the next Labour leader
    Te Kaunihera Māori, the Māori Council of the New Zealand Labour Party, have passed a resolution to endorse the Hon Nanaia Mahuta as the next leader of the Labour Party...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Kaumatua to organise petition to end Maori seats
    Ngapuhi kaumatua David Rankin has announced that he will be organising a nationwide petition to seek support from Maori voters to end the Maori seats. “These seats are patronising”, he says. “They imply we need a special status, and that...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Announcing a New Voice for The Left
    Josh Forman is pleased to announce the creation of a new force on the Left of politics in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Public services held back by poor workplace culture
    A new report by Victoria University’s Centre for Labour, Employment and Work shows that public servants are working significant unpaid overtime to ensure the public services New Zealanders value are able to continue....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • iPredict New Zealand Weekly Economic & Political Update
    Andrew Little’s probability of being the next leader of the Labour Party has reached 70% and Jacinda Ardern is favourite to become his deputy, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Prison Drug Treatment Unit marks a milestone
    Christchurch Men’s Prison’s Drug Treatment Unit (DTU) celebrated the completion of its 50th six month Drug and Alcohol Programme today, with the graduation of a further twelve offenders....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Security Council seat a chance for NZ to empower women
    The UN Women National Committee Aotearoa New Zealand (UN Women NCANZ) welcomes New Zealand winning a seat on the United Nations Security Council and is calling on New Zealand to use its position to proactively promote effective implementation of the...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Waipareira and ACC sign Partnership
    Waipareira and The Accident Compensation Corporation (ACC) have signed a Memorandum of Understanding at Whanau Centre, Henderson – marking a special day for the West Auckland Urban Maori organisation....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Humanitarian aid desperately needed in Iraq and Syria
    Global Peace and Justice Auckland is calling on the government to provide humanitarian funding for non-aligned NGOs (non-governmental organisations) in the Middle East rather than give any support whatever for the US-led military campaign in the area....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Court Judicial Decision: Dotcom v The USA: 17 October 2014
    The United States of America is seeking the extradition of Messrs Dotcom, Batato, Ortmann and Van Der Kolk. The matter has been before the Courts on numerous occasions, and no further recitation of the facts is needed....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Marshall Island poet speaks at UN climate summit
    “The fossil fuel industry is the biggest threat to our very existence as Pacific Islanders. We stand to lose our homes, our communities and our culture. But we are fighting back. This coming Friday thirty Pacific Climate Warriors, joined by...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Many tourist car accidents preventable
    Simple steps could dramatically reduce the number of accidents involving tourists, says the car review website dogandlemon.com ....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • RainbowYOUTH: 25 Years, 25 More
    In 1989, a group of young people in Auckland got together to form a support group for LGBTIQ youth. They called it Auckland Lesbian And Gay Youth (ALGY). After 25 years, several location changes, a name change, a brand reboot...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Outdated Oath shows need for Kiwi Head of State
    MPs are sworn in today and New Zealand Republic has written to MPs asking them to talk about why 121 New Zealanders elected by the people of New Zealand and standing in the New Zealand Parliament swear allegiance to another...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Council shouldn’t revenue grab from windfall valuations
    Auckland Council should state clearly they will not try and capture revenue as a result of the latest valuations and needs reminding that the City’s skyrocketing property values doesn’t change the level or cost of Council’s services, says...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • EPMU endorses Andrew Little for Labour leadership
    The National Executive of the Engineering, Printing and Manufacturing Union unanimously endorsed Andrew Little for the role of Labour leader, at a meeting held yesterday. “I have been speaking to our workplace delegates at forums across the country over...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • World Food Day promotes Agroecology not GE technology
    The UN has stated that agroecology is a major solution to feeding the world and caring for the earth....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Labour Names Review Team
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has appointed Bryan Gould as Convenor of its post-General Election Review. He will be joined on the Review Team by Hon Margaret Wilson, Stacey Morrison and Brian Corban....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Contenders for Labour leadership debate for first time
    The contenders for the leadership of the Labour Party debated for the first time on TV One’s Q+A programme today....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • UN Ambassador Jim McLay on TV One’s Q+A programme
    New Zealand's United Nations Ambassador Jim McLay on TV One’s Q+A programme....
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • The Nation: RSA President BJ Clark & Ian Taylor, New NZ Flag
    Lisa Owen interviews RSA President BJ Clark and tech innovator Ian Taylor about changing the NZ flag...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • The Nation: RSA President BJ Clark & Ian Taylor, New NZ Flag
    Lisa Owen interviews RSA President BJ Clark and tech innovator Ian Taylor about changing the NZ flag...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • Lisa Owen interviews Foreign Minister Murray McCully
    Murray McCully says New Zealanders can expect a 5-10 year engagement against Islamic State if we join military action in Iraq and the government will take that “very carefully into account”...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • Lisa Owen interviews Julia Gillard
    Julia Gillard says there is “sufficient evidence” to fight Islamic State and does not think it will increase the risk of a domestic attack...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • NZ businesses to make child abuse a priority conversation
    Many leading New Zealand businesses have partnered with national child advocacy organisation Child Matters to participate in the fourth annual ‘Buddy Day’ - New Zealand’s only child abuse prevention awareness day....
    Scoop politics | 17-10
  • Tribunal decision significant for SMEs
    The Human Rights Review Tribunal decided this week in favour of an employee’s right not to work on Saturdays for religious reasons. The decision may still be appealed but the Director of the Office of Human Rights Proceedings, Robert Kee,...
    Scoop politics | 17-10
  • On The Nation this weekend
    This weekend on The Nation… New Zealand has been elected to the United Nations Security Council, but what happens next? Lisa Owen interviews Foreign Minister Murray McCully from New York about our goals for reform, what America wants from us...
    Scoop politics | 17-10
  • 1000+ supported by Te Arawa Whanau Ora
    Over 1000 individual whānau members are leading happier, healthier, more successful lives as a result of eight passionate and committed Māori organisations working at the coalface to help whānau find success....
    Scoop politics | 17-10
  • Nomination for Board Members Now Open
    CRF’s objective is to create opportunities for people from refugee backgrounds to lead fulfilling lives and contribute to every area of New Zealand society. It is an organisation that undertakes advocacy work using the strengths-based approach,...
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • Anglican Family Care Otago staff to take industrial action
    Social workers, family workers and support staff working for Anglican Family Care in Dunedin and South Otago will take industrial action after their employer refused a pay increase that would keep up with the rising cost of living....
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • Use UN Security Council role to overcome inaction and injust
    Amnesty International welcomes New Zealand winning a seat on the UN Security Council and is calling on New Zealand to use the role to ensure the body lives up to its role of safeguarding global peace and security....
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • Grisham’s ‘child porn’ comments ignorant
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