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Australia bound?

Written By: - Date published: 10:11 am, August 31st, 2011 - 20 comments
Categories: im/migration, john key, national/act government - Tags: ,

Some advice if you are planning on joining the many kiwi’s that have left the country to go to Australia since National made it their aspiration to do something about that migration trend. They certainly have massively increased the outflow – one of their few success stories.

But where to go to in aussie? The Economist says that Melbourne is now the most livable city in the world.

The ranking scores 140 cities from 0-100 on 30 factors spread across five areas: stability, health care, culture and environment, education, and infrastructure. These numbers are then weighted and combined to produce an overall figure. In the case of the top cities, these figures are very high and very close together: Vancouver, which can blame its fall from grace on raised congestion, is just 0.2 percentage points behind Melbourne. And yet, given that the numbers were calculated before the riots that afflicted Vancouver in June, its total is likely to head downward in subsequent iterations.

Of course you could always just go to Auckland avoid the effect of the widespread brown-nosing of Key (especially amongst news media). The support for National is a lot less prevalent here according to the NZ Herald poll.

Labour does get some good news in Pre-election gloom for the poll – it made up ground among Auckland respondents where it had 38.6 per cent support, a four-point lift.

The gain was at the expense of National, which dropped from 52 to 47 per cent in Auckland.

But we’re a hard nosed lot here and less interested in who is more style than substance than we’re more interested in improving our transport infrastructure than listening to someone waffle about it as he has done so many times before .

Top ten cities: 1. Melbourne 97.5 2. Vienna 97.4 3. Vancouver 97.3 4. Toronto 97.2 5. Calgary 96.6 6. Sydney 96.1 7. Helsinki 96 8. Perth 95.9 9. Adelaide 95.9 10. Auckland 95.7

20 comments on “Australia bound?”

  1. Lanthanide 1

    Auckland’s going to become significantly less liveable as the price of petrol rises.

    • Jim Nald 1.1

      despite the occasional light (and comic?) relief from infrequent drops, petrol is steadily and inevitably rising.
      up 4 cents today.

  2. Red Fred 2

    Of course you could always just go to Auckland avoid the effect of the widespread brown-nosing of Key (especially amongst news media). The support for National is a lot less prevalent here according to the NZ Herald poll.

    Its sad (for you guys) when you have to say its a lot less prevalent in Auckland when its still 47%.

    Still – if you want to see a good drop – use the next paragraph:

    But Labour’s support collapsed among voters outside Auckland, down from 39 per cent last month to 28 per cent.

  3. bbfloyd 3

    i have to assume that the cities behind auckland would be hell on earth then. because auckland is a wasteland. the city is full of drunken teenagers every weekend… the cultural pulse has been severely weakened after two doses of john banks following closely after christine fletchers wasteful monument building..

    and a big thank you has to go to the national govt for changing the liquor laws, and creating what can only described as a bomb crater where once there was a vibrant, thriving nightlife… auckland livable? only if you accept that, for adults, the choices once the sun goes down are a fraction of what they were before the rush for profit won out over common sense…

    add to that, the fact that driving anywhere can be, and generally is, a logistic nightmare.. once again thanks go to john banks, christine fletcher, and the cast of the last national party’s pantomime govt for firstly privatising aucklands public transport infrastructure, then wasting hundreds of millions of dollars building a train station that actually does nothing to improve the workability of the system..(approved by the nat govt btw).. and then standing by cheering whilst aucklands public transport slides into third world status..

    dick hubbard was starting to make inroads, despite the concerted ,tory driven media attacks…shame that that fool banks was let loose on us before the progress back toward a city you would want to live in could be established to the point of being difficult to sabotage…

    auckland liveable??? dont make me laugh,,,, i would be interested to know who is paying for these surveys….

    • Ianupnorth 3.1

      As the top of the thread says, one exit route is via the airport, the other is SH1! Auckland is a hell hole, best avoided.

  4. Afewknowthetruth 4

    ‘The Economist says that Melbourne is now the most livable city in the world.’

    Melbourne is freezing cold in the winter and boiling hot in the summer. The region was close to running out of water prior to the drenching that caused so much damage. The property market is gossly over-priced. .

    Which all goes to show that you shouldn’t take notice of anything the Economist says.

    As for Orcland, it is not a city at all; it’s just a collection of suburbs that grew into one another and then started growing upwards. Like all cities, it feeds on its hinterland, which it continues to gobble up. Most of the intersting features were torn down years ago and replaced by tacky apartment blocks and shopping malls.

    Life is already grim in most parts of Orcland. Once oil depletion reaches a critical point, some time after 2012, life in Orcland will get very grim. It will eventually go the way of Detroit.

    • Lanthanide 4.1

      Detroit is bad because all of the people left for other places to live.

      There is no where in NZ that can accommodate Auckland’s population en-masse like there is in the US.

      Unless you’re suggesting everyone’s just going to die.

      • Afewknowthetruth 4.1.1

        People left Detroit becasue there ws no reason to stay there. The jobs slowly ‘evporated’ as munufacturing was closed down.

        ‘There is no where in NZ that can accommodate Auckland’s population en-masse like there is in the US’

        That’s why a lot of people will consider blowing up bridges or triggering landslides when the time comes.

        Everyone dies. It is just a question of when, where, and and how.

        For many Aucklanders death will be via starvation or suicide once the food stops arriving. When? No one can be sure about that, but the evidence suggests around 2018.

        • Lanthanide 4.1.1.1

          I like how you have no hesitation about giving dates for things. I guess we’ll see come 2018 just how many people have died in Auckland from ‘starvation’.

          I’m betting ‘bugger all’.

  5. expat 5

    I’m struggling to find a point, or is this astro turfing the poll results?

  6. infused 6

    Melbourne is an awesome place. I’d go if I wasn’t stuck here with certain things. Not for money, I just love the city and the lifestyle.

  7. grumpy 7

    Hear there are lots of jobs in Afghanistan if you know the right people – I know, I know – off topic!

  8. Drakula 8

    Off topic Grumpy? They both begin with A.

  9. Colonial Viper 9

    Sheeesh if you are going to Australia for employment reasons you better hurry. One or two decent years left. They are starting their economic decline now, and a sharp blow to China (rampant inflation, political instabilty, food riots) will send Oz reeling. Already their retail figures have been flat lining for over a year.

    Most Kiwis there now do not qualify for benefits. They will be back here in big numbers if there is a recession there.

    • infused 9.1

      Which is what I’ve been saying for years. People are just starting to actually listen to me now.

      • Colonial Viper 9.1.1

        Australia has been a huge employment sink for excess labour from the western speaking world. UK, Irish, South Africans, NZ’ers have all sought refuge there. When it goes down, it will be very ugly indeed.

        700,000 NZ born Kiwis over there. A lot of them don’t qualify for benefits. Times worsen and 50,000 decide to come back here for the dole, that’s our unemployment stats straight past 200,000.

  10. Sam 10

    Bring it on, come home kiwis, I need tenants in my houses (LOL).

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