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Bias in election coverage?

Written By: - Date published: 9:57 am, November 27th, 2012 - 44 comments
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Like everyone else, I find you can get better political analysis from chicken entrails than from Claire Robinson. But it seems she can count and use a ruler and what she discovered is interesting. In last year’s election campaign, the four biggest newspapers featured 138 pictures of Key to 80 of Goff, and Key’s were twice as large on average.

OK, not every picture of a given size is good and equally good – I’m sure Key wasn’t happy with this picture, for example. Robinson tried to account for this by rating pictures on how happy or otherwise the leader looked in each picture, and the picture’s position in the paper.

At the end of the day, getting a picture in the paper is usually a good thing for a wannabe PM, and those basic numbers are pretty telling.

Now, some might whine that this shows the msm is unfair and biased. And they could back that up by pointing to the undeniable preponderance of rightwing premises in the editorials, op-eds, business papers, and reporting of our news outlets.

I say: yes, the msm is part of the establishment and inherently stands for the conserving the status quo but the answer is to use the msm and its weaknesses for you, not treat it as an enemy.

44 comments on “Bias in election coverage?”

  1. shorts 1

    National do PR way better than any of the left leaning parties and manage to manage the media way better to

    You’re right in that the answer is to use the media to your own ends and I’d add to do so in a positive manner, control the dialogue

    now can Labour do so?

    • Tom Gould 1.1

      I guess with Goff and Shearer being undermined by some on their own side, no surprises here.

  2. insider 2

    LAbour made a strategic decision not to promote Goff. You can’t blame the media for following that lead. Why should media have to invent a balance the parties aren’t promoting?

    Robinson’s analysis is pretty shallow if it does not acknowledge the influence of strategy – having co leaders is another example which could on the face result in an imbalance. It would be interesting to see if her ‘leader balance’ is reflected in news coverage of the respective spokespeople in LAbour and National.

    • Lanthanide 2.1

      I’ll repost my reply to you, then:
      “That might explain fewer items of coverage, but the images of Key also tended to be larger than those of Goff. So I don’t think that really jibes as an explanation.”

      • insider 2.1.1

        I suspect the size bias is more in the positioning of the stories. Stories on inner pages,particularly the political ones, tend to run smaller pics. It’s a design issue not a bias one.
        Key I suspect was regularly on the front page of papers partly due to say the teapot issue and partly as PM he had more opportunity to be there on ‘non election’ stories. Was prominent teapot coverage good for him politically?
        Here’s an example

        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10766325

        this was front page with a big picture. According to Claire’s research it would be a sign of positive bias because he is smiling and happy (even though John Banks is there too) but the headline is hugely negative as is the story overall.

        I’m not sure a column cm count is telling the whole story, or is itself in any way balanced. It’s data I suppose, but not much more.

        • karol 2.1.1.1

          I’m not sure a column cm count is telling the whole story,

          Agree.  Biases can also be seen in the way headlines and the first paragraph are framed, and in the relationship between the most visible elements and the subsequent development of the story further down the page.  Many people, though, only glance at the images and headlines, and maybe the first paragraph. 

          An in-depth analysis needs to attend to the way all those elements operate. 

  3. karol 3

    Eddie: I say: yes, the msm is part of the establishment and inherently stands for the conserving the status quo but the answer is to use the msm and its weaknesses for you, not treat it as an enemy.

    The problem is that the NZ LP seems to try too hard to pander to the MSM with tame, but unimaginative PR and photo ops, in an attempt not to offend.  First they need to decide what they actually stand for, then go hard out in presenting that positively, without pandering to the neoliberal assumptions prevalent in the MSM.

    • Colonial Viper 3.1

      Treating the MSM like it is a major constituency of the Labour Party has brought us to this undemocratic point.

  4. Pete 4

    I would expect the incumbent to have more coverage, even during an election campaign, as the business of government is carried out. I wonder if a similar study can be done for 2008, when there was a clear narrative for a change of government.

    • karol 4.1

      Margie Comrie’s study, which I referred to here, shows that Key got more screen time than Clark in the news on TV3 & TV One during the 2008 election campaign.  Comrie shows, (p284: Table 5), that TV One gave significantly more coverage to the National Party leader getting noticeably more time on TV One, and the Labour leader slightly more time on TV3.

       

    • ak 4.2

      Correct, Pete. 2007-8 (akshly, 04-08) was far more marked, (Democracy under Attack!) and analysis of poll publication (spec NACT-favourable polls) would show a hugely more glaring bias.

      Both ignored. And the 6 o’clock slot holds a stronger sway anyhoo.

      This looks suspiciously like a “yeah ok but it’s not that bad, see?” exercise that will no doubt be cherry-picked and rolled out by our resident tories henceforth.

      But yep, labour needs to look and learn.

  5. Phil 5

    Good work Dr Robinson. We all knew it was a rigged election. It worked though. It convinced the left that it was a waste of time turning out to vote. So the Keystone Kops get elected by a JK nostril. Hardly a mandate…. but it’s enough for any dictator.

    • tc 5.1

      More inconvenient truths for the right that’ll be put down to a ‘busy govimint’ or ‘labours fault’ if they ever ask shonkey’s crew.

  6. framu 6

    interestingly, none of this even touches the MSM treating the election as a horse race instead of a contest of ideas.

    To me thats the more important aspect. If they hadnt spent several months telling us who was losing in the polls and who they felt would be the winner on the day, we might have had a vastly different result regardless of how many pictures and what size they were

    they could have published a whole edition of smiley pictures of goff – but if they spend the entire time pointing the finger and saying “hes gonna lose” without discussing any policy you can be pretty sure of the result.

    • Populuxe1 6.1

      “interestingly, none of this even touches the MSM treating the election as a horse race instead of a contest of ideas.”
      Probably because the ideas weren’t really all that different. 

      • framu 6.1.1

        well… true enough :-)

      • karol 6.1.2

        Actually, if the MSM focused more on policies, MPs other than the leaders and the background to these, maybe they would have shown up some real differences between the parties.

        As it was, the strong focus on strategic framing of the election as horserace,  made the election a more superficial contest between personalities.  Key won, while disguising his true agenda. 

        • GregJ 6.1.2.1

          I provided a link below to Canterbury University’s Dr. Babak Bahador’s “New Zealand Media Coverage of the 2008 Election Study: Final Results” which showed Policy issues coverage (50.4%) barely ahead of non policy issues (49.6%).

          Bahador’s mid-way report on 2011 Election doesn’t have that comparison so it will be interesting to see the Final Results report to see if the balance has got worse or better. However it does show that the “horserace” component of the non-policy section was much stronger than 2008 (44% versus 20%) so assuming the Policy/Non-policy balance stays roughly the same it certainly made the “contest” between personalities a much stronger feature of the 2011 election.

          • karol 6.1.2.1.1

            That’s interesting.  Thanks for the link, Greg.  i will read it more closely at a later date.

    • infused 6.2

      Just out of interest, why do they have to?

  7. Populuxe1 7

    Ok, mountain out of molehill. Labour deliberately didn’t promote Goff because he lacks media charisma, and of course Key had more photographs – (1) the teapot business (duh!) and (2) he’s the goddam PM, of course there are going to be other non-election stories for the media to cover. Paranoid much?

  8. infused 8

    Maybe if Goff wasn’t so shit… Everyone turned off to him. Why do you think?

    Why do you think Shearer hasn’t got any air time until recently? Same thing. No one wants to read about a bumbling bafoon.

    • Populuxe1 8.1

      I don’t think Goff was shit – I think he needed a bit of media advice, but had he stayed on until 2013 I think he would have become a compelling leader and grown into his mana.

      • QoT 8.1.1

        He’s had since 1984 to figure out how political leadership works, Pop. If he hadn’t got a clue by 2011 I have no idea how three more years would have helped.

        • Populuxe1 8.1.1.1

          How exactly? Most leaders Goff has served under have been total spotlight hogs. He’s never had a real chance to make an impact on the public consciousness. 

          • QoT 8.1.1.1.1

            If he can’t learn from observation I’m not sure how he made it through primary school, much less got into Parliament.

      • lprent 8.1.2

        The usual problem is to know that you need media advice in the first place. Politicians seldom do until they get burnt.

        • QoT 8.1.2.1

          Well, he might have figured it out sooner if he read blogs.

          • Populuxe1 8.1.2.1.1

            Bloggers tend to have an overly optimistic view of how important blogs are to people who don’t spend their entire lives online.

            • Crimson Nile 8.1.2.1.1.1

              You should relay your observation to some of the MSM commentators, it will make them happy.

            • QoT 8.1.2.1.1.2

              Not my point. My point is that when you’ve got a group of people providing you with their opinions for free, and those opinions turn out to be pretty good assessments of a situation, maybe you (i.e. Shearer in this case) should consider paying attention.

  9. Fortran 9

    Mountain out of a Robinson molehill – not her academic remit though, nothing better to spend taxpayers money on !!
    Labour chose to not put Goff on the promotions – simple.

  10. Raymond A Francis 10

    It would be interesting to do similar research on TV coverage (which is much more influential) and or the election before the last when Miss Clark was PM

  11. Rich 11

    I’d suggest:
    – arrange actions and events that force their way onto the front page. That’s the point of (big) protest marches, the Green’s asset sale CIR, Greenpeace occupying drilling rigs, etc. Nobody really thinks these’ll influence the ruling classes, but they do give the media something to film.

    – avoid buying (and quoting or linking to) newspapers and encourage everyone else to do the same. The NZ papers are in a fairly parlous state – a few more bad years and a big financial crash could see either APN or Fairfax filing for bankruptcy or just giving up in favour of easier ways to make a living.

    – treat the media as the opposition. Latch on any weaknesses or stuff-ups like the Murdoch phone tapping scandal. That’s done a huge amount of damage to the media/government complex in the UK.

  12. NattyM 12

    I remarked on more than one occasion how the MSM was actIng as the John Key PR team. On one occasion when the Labour Party released important policy on the family and children, it had about 4 paltry lines on p2 of the Dom Post. What took up about half the rest of the page? A photo of John Key holding a small child. No story, just another pointless photo op for their poster boy.

  13. History Repeats 13

    The Labour Party’s election communication strategy was based on promoting the party rather than a presidential leader styled campaign run by others. This strategy was well discussed during the election. Goff was invisible in LP promotional material. Remember there were no pics of Goff on LP billboards. Given this the results of this survey shows that the LP strategy worked.

    Whether that strategy was correct is another issue.

  14. unicus 14

    In the six week period prior to the last election virtually every hourly news bulletin on National Radio led with a Key or National Party story .

    This Government has interfered in state owned media at policy and editorial levels to a degree not seen since Muldoons time .

  15. Tanz 15

    Doesn’t the Engineers and Printing Union have control of the press? I’m surprised Key got so much coverage, but he lives for it. Goff did not get a fair go by the right wing Herald.

  16. Tamaki 16

    To blame the media is somewhat nieve. The Labour Party’s strategy was to run a non Presidential style campaign while the other parties all ran this style. I suggest that the LP’s media strategy influence what is run in the press and if their focus is on Team Labour rather than Labour Leader then the Media is likely to reflect that.

    Other party’s spent time setting up events to influence the media, to show their leader,wheras if Labour focus was on a wider team and party message. They didn’t place the same emphsis. Clearly this strategy was a disaster for Labour.

    Infact to illustrate the poor media strategy take a look at this labour ad from the 2011 campaign. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5870477/Labour-campaign-video-harks-back-to-history . Does this approach connect with the young 18+ generation of today swinging voter looking for a better place to live?

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    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    2 days ago
  • Bennett’s legacy a test for Tolley
    Former Social Development Minister Paula Bennett has been thrown under the bus by her successor after its been suggested that Ms Bennett gave the green light to an ‘unethical’ observational study of high-risk children, Labour Children’s spokesperson Jacinda Ardern says.… ...
    2 days ago
  • Submission to Greater Christchurch Earthquake Recovery: Transition to Rege...
    Thank you for the opportunity to contribute to the Draft Transition Recovery Plan on behalf of the New Zealand Labour Party.  It is important that the citizens of Canterbury have a voice in the governance of the next step of… ...
    2 days ago
  • Troubled school wanted $25,000 dollars to fence farm
    The troubled Whangaruru charter school asked Hekia Parata for $25,000 to fence the school farm at the expense of spending on teaching, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “This unbelievable revelation comes hard on the heels of Hekia Parata’s decision to… ...
    2 days ago
  • Troubled school wanted $25,000 dollars to fence farm
    The troubled Whangaruru charter school asked Hekia Parata for $25,000 to fence the school farm at the expense of spending on teaching, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “This unbelievable revelation comes hard on the heels of Hekia Parata’s decision to… ...
    2 days ago
  • Government report on sexual & family violence a good first step
    Yesterday the Government released the cabinet paper on progress on the work programme of the Ministerial Group on Family Violence and Sexual Violence. Along with the Human Rights Commissioner and Women’s Refuge, I really welcome the report. I’m relieved that… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    2 days ago
  • Government report on sexual & family violence a good first step
    Yesterday the Government released the cabinet paper on progress on the work programme of the Ministerial Group on Family Violence and Sexual Violence. Along with the Human Rights Commissioner and Women’s Refuge, I really welcome the report. I’m relieved that… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    2 days ago
  • Prisoner voting disqualification and the Bill of Rights Act
    In 2010, National rammed the Electoral (Disqualification of Sentenced Prisoners) Amendment Bill through Parliament. Paul Quinn’s Member’s Bill existed because Paul Quinn thought anyone who’d been imprisoned was a serious offender, and serious offenders had ‘forfeited’ their right to vote.… ...
    GreensBy David Clendon MP
    3 days ago
  • Mainfreight ‘appalled’ by Government’s rail madness
    The Government has been given a serve by New Zealand-based international trucking and logistics firm Mainfreight which says it lacks a national transport strategy, and has treated rail badly, Labour's Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford says. The company has told shareholders it… ...
    3 days ago
  • National’s Health and Safety Reform Bill: less safety and fewer rights at...
    The New Zealand Council of Trade Unions is embarking on a campaign to fight the changes that weaken the Health and Safety Reform bill. As part of the campaign the CTU has organised vigils with the display of 291 crosses… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    3 days ago
  • All options need to be put on meat sector table
    Farmers must be given every assurance that all potential risks have been considered before Silver Fern Farms opens its door to foreign equity, Labour’s Primary Industries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “The ongoing saga involving the meat sector and amalgamation has… ...
    3 days ago
  • Flag the referendum if 50% or more don’t vote
    Labour has moved to have the second flag referendum canned if the first attracts fewer than half the eligible number of voters, Opposition Leader Andrew Little says. “John Key has already wasted more than $8 million on his vanity project… ...
    3 days ago
  • 90,000 cars reclassified in botched ACC ratings
    New figures obtained by Labour show the ACC Minister’s botched motor vehicle levy system has resulted in 90,000 vehicles having to be reclassified so far – at a cost of $6 million, Labour’s ACC spokesperson Sue Moroney says. “Nikki Kaye’s… ...
    4 days ago
  • Brutal health cuts confirmed, crucial services suffer
    Chronic under-funding by National has seen the health budget slashed by $1.7 billion in just five years, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says. A report by Infometrics, commissioned by Labour, shows health funding has been cut in four of the… ...
    4 days ago
  • Meth ring under Serco’s nose
    The news that two Serco inmates have been arrested for helping to run a methamphetamine ring from prison should be the final straw and see their contract cancelled, says Labour’s Corrections Spokesperson Kelvin Davis. “National has stood by Serco despite… ...
    5 days ago
  • Ministers failing women and their own targets
    New figures showing just five Ministers have met the Government’s own reduced targets for appointing women to state sector boards is evidence National is failing Kiwi women, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Sue Moroney says. “The Ministry for Women’s 2015 Gender… ...
    5 days ago
  • Charges up for some as funding up for grabs
    A proposal being considered by the Government would see some people having to pay more for health care and district health boards forced to fight amongst themselves to fund regional health services, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says “Information leaked… ...
    5 days ago
  • Stop experimenting on kids
    The trouble with the Charter school model is that it is a publicly funded experiment on children. The National Government has consistently put its desire to open charter schools ahead of the safety of the children in them, ignoring repeated… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    5 days ago
  • Bank puts the squeeze on mid Canterbury farmers
    News that an unnamed bank in Ashburton has put a receiver on notice over financially vulnerable farmers will send a chill through rural New Zealand, says Labour’s Finance Spokesperson Grant Robertson. “The Government needs to work with  New Zealand’s banks… ...
    5 days ago
  • Key is trading away New Zealand land and homes
    John Key yesterday admitted what National dishonestly refused to confirm in Parliament last week – he is trading away New Zealand’s right to control who buys our homes and land, says Opposition leader Andrew Little. “The Prime Minister must now… ...
    6 days ago
  • Razor gang takes scalpel to health
    Plans by the Government to take a scalpel to democratically elected health boards are deceitful and underhand, coming just months after an election during which they were never signalled, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says “Leaked documents reveals a radical… ...
    6 days ago
  • Spin lines show a department in chaos
    Corrections Spin Doctors sending their place holder lines to journalists instead of responding to serious allegations shows the scale of chaos at the department over the Serco scandal, says Labour’s Corrections Spokesperson Kelvin Davis. “As more and more serious allegations… ...
    1 week ago
  • Court ruling shows law should never have been passed
    A High Court ruling that a law banning prisoners from voting is inconsistent with a properly functioning democracy should be a wake-up call for the Government, Labour’s Justice spokesperson Jacinda Ardern says. In an unprecedented ruling Justice Paul Heath has… ...
    1 week ago
  • Judicial Review Gamble Pays Off for Problem Gambling Foundation
    Congratulations are due to the Problem Gambling Foundation (PGFNZ) who have won their legal case around how the Ministry of Health decided to award their contracts for problem gambling services to another service provider. Congratulations are due not just for… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    1 week ago
  • Environmental Protection Agency appoints GE advocate as new CEO
    This week, the Environmental Protection Authority Amendment Bill passed its first reading in Parliament. The Bill puts protection of the environment into the core purpose of the Environmental Protection Authority. This month, Dr Allan Freeth, the former Chief Executive of… ...
    GreensBy Steffan Browning MP
    1 week ago
  • Charanpreet Dhaliwal death demands genuine health and safety reform
    The killing of a security guard on his first night on the job is exactly the kind of incident that National’s watered-down health and safety bill won’t prevent, says Te Atatu MP Phil Twyford. The coronial inquest into 22-year-old Charanpreet… ...
    1 week ago
  • Arbitrary sanctions hit children hardest
    Increasing numbers of single parents are being penalised under a regime that is overly focussed on sanctions rather than getting more people into work, Labour’s Social Development spokesperson Carmel Sepuloni says. “Figures, obtained through Parliamentary questions show 3000 more sanctions,… ...
    1 week ago
  • Hekia just won’t face the facts
    Hekia Parata’s decision to keep troubled Whangaruru Charter school open despite being presented with a catalogue of failure defies belief, goes against official advice and breaks a Government promise to close these schools if they were failing, says Labour’s Education… ...
    1 week ago
  • No more silent witnesses
    Yesterday I attended the launch of a new initiative developed by and for Asian, Middle eastern and African youth to support young people to name and get support if there is domestic violence at home. The impact on children of… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    1 week ago
  • Single Use Plastic Bags campaign – Some wins and some green-washing
    As we near the end of Plastic Free July I’m nearing the conclusion of my Say No To Plastic Bag tour when I will have completed all 30 of my public meetings. The campaign was designed to work with community… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    1 week ago
  • Single Use Plastic Bags campaign – Some wins and some green-washing
    As we near the end of Plastic Free July I’m nearing the conclusion of my Say No To Plastic Bag tour when I will have completed all 30 of my public meetings. The campaign was designed to work with community… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    1 week ago
  • Minister must take responsibility for problem gambling debacle
    The Government’s handling of the Problem Gambling Foundation’s axing in a cost-cutting exercise has been ham-fisted and harmful to some of the most vulnerable people in society, Associate Health Labour spokesperson David Clark says.“Today’s court ruling overturning the axing of… ...
    1 week ago
  • Labour will not support TPP if it undermines NZ sovereignty
    The Labour Party will not support the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement unless key protections for New Zealanders are met, Opposition leader Andrew Little says.“Labour supports free trade. However, we will not support a TPP agreement that undermines New Zealand’s sovereignty. ...
    1 week ago
  • Coleman can’t ignore latest warnings
    Resident doctors have advised that a severe staffing shortage at North Shore Hospital is putting patients’ lives at risk, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says. “They say a mismatch between staffing levels and patient workloads at North Shore has… ...
    1 week ago
  • ACC must remove barriers to appeals
    The Government must prioritise removing barriers to justice for ACC claimants following a damning report by Acclaim Otago, Labour’s ACC spokesperson Sue Moroney says. “ACC Minister Nikki Kaye must urgently scrap her flawed plan to remove claimant’s right to redress… ...
    1 week ago
  • Six months’ paid parental leave back on the agenda
    Six months’ paid parental leave is back on the agenda and a step closer to reality for Kiwi parents after Labour’s new Member’s Bill was pulled from today’s ballot, the Bill’s sponsor and Labour MP Sue Moroney says. “My Bill… ...
    1 week ago
  • Sole parents at risk of having no income
    New requirements for sole parents to undertake a reapplication process after a year is likely to mean a large number will face benefit cancellations, but not because they have obtained work, Labour’s Social Development spokesperson Carmel Sepuloni says. “Increasing numbers… ...
    1 week ago
  • Juking the Welfare Stats Again
    Last week the government’s major initiative to combat child poverty (a paltry $25 increase) was exposed for what it is, a lie. The Government, through the Budget this year, claims to be engaging in the child poverty debate, but instead,… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    1 week ago
  • OCR rate cut a result of flagging economy
    The Reserve Bank's decision to cut the Official Cash Rate to 3 per cent shows there is no encore for the so-called 'rock star' economy, says Labour's Finance Spokesperson Grant Robertson.   "Today's interest rate cut comes off the back… ...
    1 week ago
  • Reboot to an innovation economy, an Internet economy and a clean economy
    In my short 33 years on this planet we’ve seen phenomenal technological, economic and social change, and it’s realistic to expect the next 33 will see even more, even faster change. You can see it in the non-descript warehouse near… ...
    GreensBy Gareth Hughes MP
    1 week ago
  • Bill that puts the environment into the EPA passes first hurdle
    A Bill that puts the environment squarely into legislation governing the Environmental Protection Authority passed its first reading today, says Meka Whaitiri.  “I introduced this member’s bill as the current law doesn’t actually make protecting the environment a goal of… ...
    1 week ago
  • Key’s KiwiSaver deception exposed
    KiwiSaver statistics released today expose John Key's claim that the cutting of the kickstart payment "will not make a blind bit of difference to the number of people who join KiwiSaver” to be duplicitous, says Labour Finance Spokesperson Grant Robertson.  “Official… ...
    1 week ago
  • Minimum Wage Amendment Bill to protect contractors
    All New Zealanders should be treated fairly at work. Currently, the law allows non-employment relationships to be used to get around the minimum wage. This is unfair, says Labour MP David Parker. “The Minimum Wage (Contractor Remuneration) Amendment Bill, a… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Bill raises bar to protect Kiwi farmland
    The Government’s rubber-stamping of every one of the nearly 400 applications from overseas investors to buy New Zealand farm land over the last three years proves tougher laws are needed, Labour MP Phil Goff says. “In the last term of… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Costly flag referendum should be dumped
    John Key must ditch the flag referendum before any more taxpayer money is wasted, Opposition Leader Andrew Little says. “Millions of dollars could be saved if the Prime Minister called a halt to this hugely expensive, and highly unpopular, vanity… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Nats letting Serco off scot free
    Government members have prevented Parliament’s Law and Order select committee from getting answers out of a senior Serco director about the fight clubs being run at Mt Eden prisons, says Labour’s Corrections Spokesperson Kelvin Davis. “At today’s Law and Order… ...
    2 weeks ago

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