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Bob Jones – National vs Labour on the economy

Written By: - Date published: 7:08 am, August 8th, 2013 - 83 comments
Categories: class war, economy, labour, national - Tags: ,

In an otherwise dull piece in The Herald recently, Bob Jones finished up with a typically blunt assessment of the impact of Labour and National governments on the economy:

It’s no secret the commercial property industry, numbering over 100,000 people in all of its ramifications, favour Labour governments simply because they like vibrant economies. As the past 40 years show, these always accompany Labour’s periods in office.

But, the stultification corresponding with National governments is welcomed by bigger players as it throws up acquisition opportunities, aside from which there’s more to voting than economic issues and dull governments never last forever.

It seems that Jones can acknowledge the truth that most right-wingers try and deny. Turns out David Cunliffe made similar points in Parliament just recently:

Government members do not like it. They do not like it, because they know they are up an economic backwater without a paddle. They are staring at their fourth deficit Budget in a row, and their fifth next year. It will be their fifth straight deficit in a row, but Labour had nine straight surpluses—nine straight fiscal surpluses—and a higher growth rate. Here is an enduring politics of New Zealand economics. If you take a 30-year history of data and compare economic growth under Labour Governments with economic growth under National Governments, guess which comes out higher? Labour, by over 0.5 percent per annum, has a higher economic growth rate record than occurred under National Governments. As if that were not rich enough, there is another lovely statistic that goes with it that despite that, sometimes business confidence is higher under National. That is because it is purely tribal and because certain wealthy members of the community are able to rip off the system under National and feather their own nests. New Zealanders have had enough of it.

It’s the economy stupid? Then vote Labour.

83 comments on “Bob Jones – National vs Labour on the economy”

  1. Saarbo 1

    Yes, everybody is a winner under a labour Government (well nearly everybody)…and yet only 30% support. It must be something to do with the way they are selling their message.

    Conversely 50% support for National, many of these people are small business owners, wage and salary earners who would better off supporting Labour.

    Well I’ve been watching a bit of Parliament TV lately, the problem is well documented……

    Mr. Shearer.

    • Craig Glen viper 1.1

      Having a good leader who can communicate effectively with the public is certainly crucial, however having a caucus that is smart enough to identify who the best person is who has those skills is needed first.
      Labour needs new Mps/Caucus who can focus on making sure that the Party’s policies become legislation. This lot are to focussed on the Wellington game and other issues motivated by jealousy.
      Cunliffe is currently probably the only person who has the ability to connect with voters for labour. Cunliffe’s ability to communicate complex issues in a simple way is just what is need to get voters to vote Labour.

      • Skinny 1.1.1

        So if you asked Bob Jones as a property investor, how he felt if Labour put 2 economic/financial specialists at the Helm? one could quite envisage his response. A slow draw on his pipe then a nod of ‘yes’ and a reply of “Cunliffe & Parker a very good choice.”

      • crashcart 1.1.2

        My wife has always been a National voter as I used to be. I voted Green last election and she went NAT again. The other day when we were talking politics she said “yes I am sick of National and I don’t want to vote for them this time…but I just can’t vote for Shearer”. Not I can’t vote for Labour but I can’t vote for Shearer. Labour is seriously underestimating how important it is for them to have a leader who looks like a PM in waiting.

        • Alanz 1.1.2.1

          Disillusioned Nats, TWITS and DOLTS can always vote for that hunky chunky, bleeding heart liberal (apparently that can be doubted) in Labour who Grunts and assures neo-libs that there will be no plans to intervene in any other markets.

        • handle 1.1.2.2

          Crashcart, how does she feel about Russell Norman and Metria Turei? Must be some interesting conversations at your place.

        • gobsmacked 1.1.2.3

          Labour is seriously underestimating how important it is for them to have a leader who looks like a PM in waiting.

          Sadly true. What matters is the opinion of three million voters, not three hundred politics junkies who live in the world of blogs and party conferences.

          Anyone who actually has daily contact with the non-political (but voting) public knows that Shearer is at best invisible, at worst a figure of fun. “I don’t like National but …” is the refrain that will kill Labour at the election.

          It is completely predictable, and completely avoidable.

    • Colonial Viper 1.2

      Yes, everybody is a winner under a labour Government (well nearly everybody)…and yet only 30% support. It must be something to do with the way they are selling their message.

      NO NO NO NO NO NO

      Although CGV is correct in that a crucial factor is the quality of Labour leader, their comms skills, and how that leader can get caucus focussed on getting real stuff done for the country, as opposed to playing stupid Wellington bubble based games. But there is much more.

      1) Labour as it exists today is a poor fit for the mood and attitudes of the country – they are a political elite who see themselves as intellectually, morally, politically and culturally superior to many NZers. (eg. So many NZers are…greedy, self centred, red necks, racist, ignorant, backward, misogynists, etc. if only they knew what we knew they’d all be Labour supporters!)

      2) Labour does not know who its core voters are any more, let alone be able to enthuse them to turn out. Also: core voters =! voters to be taken for granted.

      3) The electorate does not respect the lack of political punch and cohesiveness of the Labour caucus. In many circles, if you mention that you are a Labour supporter, you are often smirked at…even by people who used to be strong Labour supporters but have gone elsewhere.

      4) Labour doesn’t know how to play outside of the big cities. Palmerston North and West Coast are the only “provincial” seats that Labour holds, and PN strictly speaking is an urban seat with a university base.

      5) The electorate still has an unconscious understanding of what gutsy game changing Labour values are all about yet all it sees is compromise after compromise echoing centrist and right wing positions.

      6) Labour has a “broad church” concept which misses the point. It ensures that identity minorities are well represented but socioeconomic minorities like beneficiaries are largely ignored.

      etc

      the big one I have missed out is how Labour has let its economic and financial power base throughout the country get eroded to nothing (union movement crippled unable to call a general strike etc), but the NATs can pick up a $2.1M HQ in the diplomatic section and invite in Ambassadors from all around the world for a cuppa.

      So “selling the message better” will help, but isn’t going to cut it.

      • Craig Glen viper 1.2.1

        I agree that major change is needed in our economy so all NZers are able to improve their situation Socially, Educationally, Economically and in terms of Health. This type of change has in the past been done by Labour, Labour can do it again( under Cunliffe) but this time it will need the Greens to get their hands dirty, something they have been unwilling to do in the past. Labour has in the past had a very good on the ground team ( hard working Party faithful) with Shearer in charge I cant see that occurring at the next Election.

        • peterlepaysan 1.2.1.1

          Greens get their hands dirty? Never let it be said.
          Wash your mouth out!

        • handle 1.2.1.2

          “will need the Greens to get their hands dirty, something they have been unwilling to do in the past.”

          They told Labour not to go into coalition with them. Oh, wait.

      • Winston Smith 1.2.2

        You’re on fire today

      • Saarbo 1.2.3

        mmm Interesting CV, I cant disagree with any of that. But I wonder if some of the points that you make come about because of the way they are going about selling themselves or perhaps the perception that they are creating from their dysfunction.

        Below is a message from Phil Twyford a couple of weeks ago and I think they do have a message to sell….also the Labour Party Policy Platform is outstanding. So I dont think you are so much disagreeing with me, just highlighting the result of a dysfunctional caucus with a hopeless Leader.

        http://thestandard.org.nz/labours-new-housing-policy-shearer-on-qa/#comment-669958

        …but I would have thought that using the Crown balance sheet to build 100,000 affordable homes, and legislating to make it mandatory for landlords to provide warm dry homes was pretty good evidence in a housing policy of a committed move away from hands off free market policies. Put that alongside a jobs and modern manufacturing policy that includes rewriting the Reserve Bank Act, a government procurement policy that puts Kiwi firms first, R&D tax credits, a Capital Gains Tax, and raising the top tax rate for >$150K. Add that to a commitment to do away with the Bradford electricity reforms and introduce a single buyer model, a promise not to sell any state assets, and a commitment to strengthening collective bargaining (rather than weakening it as National is doing). I know it won’t satisfy everyone at The Standard but policy-wise that all adds up in my view to a pretty decisive break with the old orthodoxy.

        • Colonial Viper 1.2.3.1

          Oh I think that the Labour policies are a country mile ahead of the NATs, no doubt about it. I’m voting Labour no matter who the leader is.

          So yes, not disagreeing with you really, other than to say that most of what you list are what I would call “centrist” “middle of the road” economic policies quite common in many other capitalist countries around the world.

        • Olwyn 1.2.3.2

          I agree Saarbo that these policies look good. However, they come accompanied by great caution concerning any mention of core Labour values, the banishment of the left of the party, and a background of vicious antics designed to shore up the present leadership team. What is more, these policies come in the form, if we do A then B will follow, which allows room to do A while neglecting any additional conditions that would bring about B. For example, the restriction of foreigners buying domestic property may not make houses more affordable, or may continue anyway through some unclosed loophole. We promise B and will do whatever it takes to achieve B would be far more convincing.

          As to allowing Cunliffe a little more leeway, that does not amount to much if he is given little ground to stand on. Once again, it might intend an impression, but most people have had a gutful of impressions,and want substance. A picture of a loaf of bread is not much use to a hungry person. And as to the 6 mill. for Plunket, nice, but it is not something that National could not do if it found itself in need of a good news story.

          Basically, the methods used to promote and maintain Shearer haver demanded that he be exceptional, and fulfil the expectations of the membership and potential voters to a high degree. But he has been neither. Instead he has spearheaded an unsuccessful attempt to reconfigure the Labour party culture, and now hopes that cautious concessions will be enough to save him.

      • Granted 1.2.4

        “they are a political elite who see themselves as intellectually, morally, politically and culturally superior to many NZers. (eg. So many NZers are…greedy, self centred, red necks, racist, ignorant, backward, misogynists, etc. if only they knew what we knew they’d all be Labour supporters!)”

        The above comment IMO reflects quite a few who comment on this site.

        I often support Nats but am “over them” however I can not stand the thought of either Shearer, the fat deputy, or the Greens, being in charge of the country.

    • Hami Shearlie 1.3

      Got it in one, Saarbo – The ABC crowd in Caucus obviously hate David Cunliffe so much that they’d rather lose the next election – are they really the kind of people that Labour party supporters want representing them?

  2. vto 2

    I like reading Bob Jones sometimes. When he is not off on some abusive social type rant. His economic rants are sometimes quite revealing.

    His point here around property people liking Labour governments is entirely true, even though they never vote for them. I recall just before Clark came into office some such people and I were conversing and they were busy ramping up their property holdings for this exact purpose.

    And the Nats? Bob has them right as well – this current scummy lot being the perfect example of what he describes.

    It is worth reflecting on the rising unemployment figures – worst place hit is the south of NZ. But there is a full blown dairy boom going on there at the same time. How is that trickle-down going? The neoliberal revolution is under pressure. It is being exposed for its failings all over the place right now – think Pike River, finance companies, leaky homes.. It may take a little longer but the entire philosophy behind it is being questioned by all and sundry as we speak. Except for gosman and srylands. I guess a couple of future museum examples could be useful.

  3. Huginn 3

    and now maybe someone can ask Alan Gibbs how Hayek would have voted on the GCSB Bill

  4. Tiger Mountain 4

    Things have gone better under Labour led governments, more real job ads, the average person is under less pressure, not beneficiaries of course, but unemployment was way lower during the Clark years. Whereas the Nats target their ‘top drawer’ supporters and stuff the rest.

    The Labour party though has been running on empty for far longer than expected, real fuel rather than fumes is needed in the tank. David Cunliffe (with beard) needs to be installed as leader at the upcoming conference, and then start ripping into Key and National/ACT/MP/Dunne. And seriously engaging the non voters rather than denigrating them (e.g. the roof painter).

    I can imagine the usual suspects among the affiliates that are pushing some wall papering unity line. Unity at all costs, or on dubious grounds will be another flat tyre to continue the automotive theme.

    The conference is the time to change leaders. An opportunity will be lost if this does not occur a year out from the next scheduled election. The real torys and neo lib rump in Labour play for keeps, it is beyond time for Labour members to do the same and take back their party. The Greens and Mana are just going to get bigger over the next decade, and frankly if Labour can’t move on to a more classic social democratic strategy it is the wreckers yard for them.

    • Colonial Viper 4.1

      but unemployment was way lower during the Clark years.

      Unemployment was low that period because spending and sales in the economy were high. And that was largely due to Cullen tolerating the creation of a massive private sector debt bubble as a way to push new cash into the economy.

      Nothing particularly virtuous about that. If National had been in power at the time and let the same thing happen, unemployment would have been (relatively) low as well.

      • Tiger Mountain 4.1.1

        Back up the bus CV, Hillside was still fully open, as were many manufacturing enterprises now long gone, thousands more public servants were employed, Kiwi Bank and Kiwi Saver and indeed the “Cullen” fund were set up. Unemployment was lower because more people had actual jobs.

        Debt bubble? what are you on about? Many individuals and small businesses are over extended and in the crap and there has been a property bubble. Private sector corporate and finance capital activities are best reflected in the current account deficit which comprises mainly repatriation of profits offshore.

        Unemployment has risen under National for various reasons.
        • they like a higher level to put downward pressure on wages
        • full employment is not a goal for neo lib torys
        • public services and infrastructure has been slashed
        • a negative environment has been created, if not for Australia soaking up thousands of kiwis it would all be on here just like certain parts of Europe

        • Colonial Viper 4.1.1.1

          No need to back up the bus – simply look at your own facts from a different perspective.

          Hillside was open because the government was spending into Hillside. Spending is required to create employment.

          There were thousands more public sector jobs because again, the government was spending into the public sector.

          Unemployment was lower because more people had actual jobs.

          This sentence is a…whatyoumacallit. Circular.

          Debt bubble? what are you on about? Many individuals and small businesses are over extended and in the crap and there has been a property bubble. Private sector corporate and finance capital activities are best reflected in the current account deficit which comprises mainly repatriation of profits offshore.

          The current account deficit is the cashflow. You need to look at the balance sheet to identify the debt bubble. Net NZ debt.

          • Macro 4.1.1.1.1

            “This sentence is a…whatyoumacallit”

            Tautology

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)

            • Tiger Mountain 4.1.1.1.1.1

              My sentence on employment “Unemployment was lower because more people had actual jobs” whilst vulnerable to pedantic self pleasuring such as yours Macro is also demonstrably true, with an undercurrent of sarcasm for the benefit of CV.

              There WERE more people in employment during the last Labour led government than the current dirty filthy tory one. The means by which this was achieved may not match some readers views on how it should happen but, but…..

            • Colonial Viper 4.1.1.1.1.2

              Thanks Macro…

              TM yes there was definitely lower unemployment under Labour not disputing that one bit.

              The other thing to remember is that financially, a paid job is always a cost which requires additional expenditure.

      • Foreign Waka 4.1.2

        Mr Cullen’s stewardship of the countries finances was superb! There is no doubt about it. Mr English has no handle on the situation, his concept is that of a farm and he treats NZ like one. Occasionally, he is getting some help from Mr Key i.e. Poker deal when things get a bit too dull. Being in charge of a country means a bit more than what we see today. The biggest problem is that there is no real money circulation and this is akin to “if it ain’t moving, it’s dead” scenario.

        • Colonial Viper 4.1.2.1

          Let’s not kid ourselves. English has got a pretty solid grasp of the country’s finances. We might not like his priorities or his politics but that is another matter.

          Mr Cullen’s stewardship of the countries finances was superb! There is no doubt about it.

          Oh indeed. But not in the way most Lefties think. I’ll break it down for you

          1) Private sector permitted by Cullen to go into high levels of debt
          2) The debt creates cash deposits into the private sector, increasing private sector economic activity (“growth”)
          3) Cullen taxes that private sector economic activity, taking that free cash from the private sector balance sheet and moving it to the public sector balance sheet.
          4) Resulting public sector surpluses used to retire public sector debt.

          OR TO SIMPLIFY, UNDER CULLEN:

          Government debt reduced and exchanged for increased private sector debt.

          • srylands 4.1.2.1.1

            Wow you finally got something right!

            • Colonial Viper 4.1.2.1.1.1

              Thanks. Without irony, even :)

            • Mike S 4.1.2.1.1.2

              Yep, that’s one of the ridiculous things about our economic and monetary system. You can’t lower public and private debt. If you decrease private debt then public debt has to increase and vice versa.

              • Colonial Viper

                So not matter what happens, the banks and the bond holders get their cut of interest charges.

          • Foreign Waka 4.1.2.1.2

            Mr Cullen was employed by the average taxpayer and delivered, in full.
            As for private companies going into debt, no government can stop that if we are part of the western economy. If it would be the other way around, we would be a lost cause. Besides, all western economic activity is build on debt, so there is no change in approach just in distribution of the profit of it.
            Mr English is reaping the benefit of the now enormous Kiwi saver program that gives this country the credit rating to the benefit of business. There were already calls for some of its share of it, just watch this space in the future.
            Debt levels have soared between 2008 (17.4% of GDP) and 2012 (35.9% of GDP). This mountain of debt also goes hand in hand with reduced investment in the social infrastructure, loss of jobs, which are either lost altogether or replaced with minimum pay for part and casual jobs. By selling even more assets, this gap will be getting bigger in the future. But not to worry, we got more of the gambling machines, synthetic drugs and more sport than all of Europe. This will keep us calm and collected when we discover that we are finally broke.

    • Te Reo Putake 4.2

      TM, my understanding is that their is no mechanism for conference to change leader. While I agree it would be great timing for it to happen there, and a boost to the internal democracy of the party, we are still operating under rules that effectively mean that a leadership change is a matter for caucus.

      • Tiger Mountain 4.2.1

        Yep, TRP that is how the rules read though if it does get to a situation where a simple majority of caucus at any time wants a change, the make up of the electoral college has changed following the 2012 conference with more weighting to party members and affiliate members. Look I am not a LP member or fan of social democracy as an ideology so have restricted my comments here to very few on the matter. But participating in political life you get the drift. I know people that have done many hard yards for the Labour Party and they deserve more in terms of having a combative capable leader.

        • Te Reo Putake 4.2.1.1

          Dead right, TM, we are not being well served by the current leadership. That’s not just Shearer, but those keeping him in his job. However, as I’ve been saying since the last conference, he’s not going to be replaced before the election.

          On the upside, I note that Shearer has been happy recently to allow Cunliffe to speak for the party on a few issues. That suggests he is a) comfortable that his leadership isn’t going to be challenged, and b) aware that Cunliffe is an asset that needs to be used positively.

          • weka 4.2.1.1.1

            Would be interested in your views on Trotter’s latest piece about the conference, LP leadership, caucus and rank and file, policy platform etc.

            http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-08082013/#comment-676637

            • Te Reo Putake 4.2.1.1.1.1

              Well, as usual, Trotter speaks the a position well outside Labour. He’s gilding the lily in many places, including the supposed Clark endorsement of Shearer, but some of what he is saying may be correct. I am aware that affiliated unions are trying to play an honest broker role. However, that may be difficult if those propping up DS see the unions as wanting him replaced by Cunliffe.

              Conference is going to be great fun, whatever happens. I’m looking forward to attending.

          • thechangling 4.2.1.1.2

            “he’s not going to be replaced before the election”.

            From memory, every continuously low polling political party leader in opposition in New Zealand is replaced about 12 months prior to a general election as part of the election strategy, and if that doesn’t happen this time around it will be a large breakaway from what has become orthodoxy in New Zealand politics.
            I’m picking it will happen (probably not at conference) because if it doesn’t, Labour will be committing political suicide with a leader who is seen as putty in Key’s hands.

  5. Rodel 5

    Sad but Shearer reminds me of Rowling- nice, intelligent and ethical, but makes little impact on the masses.
    Labour needs a leader in the Kirk-Clark mold. With the above attributes but able to inspire.

    • Hami Shearlie 5.1

      Rowling was streets ahead of Shearer – he didn’t play well on camera during the election campaign , but if you look at his interviews he was intelligent and very articulate – Shearer is NOT!

      • Rhinocrates 5.1.1

        Rowling was compassionate, sincere and competent. He wasn’t a showman like Lange, but he could do a good job. Shearer is a petty bureaucrat who can’t stand anyone else around him actually being capable, because he thinks that they make him look bad and that matters more than anything to him, hence those who are “disloyal”, no matter how good they are to the party, are punished.

        Enough of this “nice guy” bullshit. He’s a petty, vain, vindictive mediocrity. He’s only where he is because Goof and Thing see him as a way of guaranteeing their meal tickets. “New Zealand? Yeah, OK, whatever…. look at the menu at Bellamy’s!” is all they think.

        • Murray Olsen 5.1.1.1

          I always felt a bit sorry for Rowling. He came after Big Norm, one of the legendary leaders, and suffered by comparison, especially against Muldoon. It’s a real shame that it took a super-sized egotistical showman to beat the midget sized egotistical showman that was Muldoon, and more of a shame that he was asleep at the wheel while ACT Mk 1 took over.

          Rowling was far superior to Shearer. I can’t fault your description. What the hell ever inspired him to come back and save us?

          • Rhinocrates 5.1.1.1.1

            Likewise, I feel sorry for Bill Rowling. I wept when Norm died, but Bill Rowling was a good man still and could have led longer. Lange was good, but those arsewipes Prebble, Douglas and Goff (spit) were already established in the party like the cancers they are.

          • Rhinocrates 5.1.1.1.2

            What the hell ever inspired him to come back and save us?

            Just another gig – that’s all.

            “Oh yeah, looks like that will pay, another step up – ‘PM’ looks good, could get me a good board membership later…”

            Goof and Thing think “yeah, keeps us fed” Dalziel says – and this is direct quite from a Nine to Noon interview, “Normal voting patterns will resume” as if they have a natural right to rule and soon the stupid electorate will see the error of their ways.

            What you see is a sense of entitlement and a complete abandonment of any of the original ideals, or any ability to see the real state of the present.

            “Labour” as it was is dead… but a real Labour Party could still live, and I think it does – in the party now, in the back benches. Get rid of the parasites in the front rows now!

  6. Sable 6

    I’ll vote Green thanks all the same.

  7. Rosetinted 7

    That is because it is purely tribal and because certain wealthy members of the community are able to rip off the system under National and feather their own nests. New Zealanders have had enough of it.

    Nailed it Cunliffe. :wink:

    Bob Jones is totally calculating and he knows what’s good for him. So he can be thoroughly analytical. He was referred to by Maurice Williamson this morning concerning earthquake strengthening as saying there needs to be certainty in standards, trying to get some sensible action from the pollies apparently.

    Listening to Kathryn Ryan trying to get Williamson to answer the question reminded me of trying to hold some slippery thing in my fingers. Twist this way and that, go round, over the top, come at the problem from a philosophical viewpoint, take a long term view, consider the possibility of a 10 degree earthquake, compare earthquake dangers to those facing drivers every day, talk about life involving risks that we have to calculate, anything but Answer the Bloody Question!

  8. tracey 8

    Jones made money and got a knighthood and wants a republic… what he thinks matters because?

    • Rosetinted 8.1

      Because it suits us to listen to one of the prominent money men if he steps outside their charmed thinking circle. Even rich people can have useful things to say from time to time.

      • blue leopard 8.1.1

        + 1 to Tracey’s question
        +1 to Rosetinted answer
        Great line of thought!

      • Rosetinted 8.1.2

        tracey
        I say us because I know there are a few people who will agree with me, not thinking of speaking for TS as a whole. And it seems to me that the art of coping with life is using what you have the best way that you can, but keeping in mind the problems arising from your own and other people’s tendencies. So I wouldn’t diss RJ though he would me probably if he knew me.

        Politics is the art of the possible. So we have to know how to choose the least bad when we have obscure choices, or find a way of somehow upsetting the card stack and starting a new balancing act.

        The Quotations Page says –
        Politics is the art of the possible.
        Otto Von Bismarck, remark, Aug. 11, 1867
        German Prussian politician (1815 – 1898)
        (Unfortunately he died before he could create the possibility of not having the First World War etc..)

        • Rhinocrates 8.1.2.1

          “Least bad” is still not good enough. We need to send that message loud and clear.

          The neofascists have been saying that about the GCSB Bill: “at least we’re not North Korea.”

          Do you think that’s good enough? I don’t.

          Do you know the parable of the boiling frog?

          • Rosetinted 8.1.2.1.1

            Rhino
            You’re talking fairy theory, utopia. Every time we vote at elections we have to choose don’t we. Wake up and keep your dreams as a powerhouse for your actions, but we can’t build Rome in a day, just get a home perhap from Labour policies. Often there is one good thing that comes from each election’s winning party and a hundred negative things on a scale of 1-100.

            That’s how life works and you just have to keep banging away trying to get better or being ready to fight for what we have now. Denniston Plateau being mined so that the West Coasters don’t have to move place and move with the times

      • tracey 8.1.3

        Agreed, and so can non rich people, but they dont get columns in the Herald. The rich are well represented in the opinion-piece stakes… the poor are not, especially with a tesicle-less Labour party.

        My objection to RJ is many-fold and mostly he is similar to Michael Laws in his expounding from the comfort of his leather chair looking out over the water about how everyone else needs to live their lives.

        If I had my way the editor, and letters to editor would be the only opinion pieces in the paper. Too many mistake opinion for fact.

        I take your point, that those who agree with his view on Maori and lazy poor and other things might listen to him when he says something like this too… but they are the apathetic, which knows no socio-economic stratum.

        Did he march in Wellingtons GCSB protest, given how much he values privacy?

    • Craig Glen viper 8.2

      Robert Muldoon if he was a live could probably give you the answer that question tracey.

  9. tricledrown 9

    Rosetinted last time bob jones brought down Muldoon it looks like he’s had enough of the celebrity cult leader that is shonkey!

    • Rosetinted 9.1

      tricledrown
      Who knows what goes on in that dark, shadowed space that is Bob Jones mind – watch this space!
      Actually he writes a newspaper column so his thoughts are not unknown, except to me as I prefer to read crime fiction! But I think he’s astute also a loose cannon – like Winston Peters.

      • Ennui 9.1.1

        Rose, there have been a lot of “loose cannons”….their uniform crime has been to step out of the current orthodoxy and state a contrary opinion or take contrary action. Examples….Churchill on the rise of fascism…Nelsons direct approach to the French line…..Keynes approach to the crisis of capital…Mandelas approach to reconciliation. Loose cannons need to be encouraged!!!!!!

        • Rosetinted 9.1.1.1

          Ennui I see your point. Anyway as long as they’re not firing at me!! I’m being se;f-centred again I know but…. A great line up you’ve got there.

        • tracey 9.1.1.2

          but let’s not be silly and put RJ in the same category as those you mentioned, although he would agree with your comparison I am sure.;

          Where’s the head of the city mission’s regular column in a newspaper, or the head of the Sallys?

  10. Richard Down South 10

    Labour look very much like a party without leadership (real leadership), and their core values have shifted more right… to the point where theyd rather pander to corporates, than take more traditional stands on issues which matter

    • Sable 10.1

      Agreed. I used to think Labour were a party of the left but now they look an awful lot like National. They need to reform if they want to tap into the large working class vote in particular. I see no policies to date that really help our the “Kiwi battler” who are in many ways a big part of their core constituent.

      Instead they seem obsessed with the rich and middle classes who are in the first instance mostly ardent National supporters and in the second instance split between National and Labour. They are overlooking a BIG group of voters at their peril.

      • Rhinocrates 10.1.1

        They’re “ashpirashunul.” The big mistake that naive people make about demography is to assume that there is some sort of bell curve that lies in the middle and so therefore, the middle is the ideal.

        Maybe there is a “middle”, but what and how is it? Why does it matter, would it actually secure votes? The ABC-ers want prestige. They’re the ultimate “upwardly mobile”. They want Labour to be the new National, yet they have no idea about the new class structure, or the precariat.

        Throw the fuckers out! We need real representatives, not time-serving apparatchiks.

        • Colonial Viper 10.1.1.1

          “Middle class” = the top 20%. Household income of $80K plus, individual income of $55K plus, at a guess.

          • Rhinocrates 10.1.1.1.1

            That’s the essence of “ashpirashunul”. They’re the people you want to think you are or would be.

            Labour In Name Only doesn’t want to be seen to be associated with roof-painting “losers” and “bludgers” because it thinks that the voters are, like themselves, “ashpirashunul”.

            Thatcher called Blair her greatest success – well, Mumblefuck is Key’s.

        • tracey 10.1.1.2

          +1

          The “middle” is an illusion. Most people think they are the middle, equated with normal. So they hear policies allegedly for them. At least the poor know they are fucked, the “middle” are that group being pulled along by their dicks toward the goals of the top 1% on the basis that if they work hard enough and vote the right way they can get to the 1%. They are dreaming. They are way more deluded than those at the bottom, but being university educated will resist any idea they are stupid. hence, they can’t be wrong and rarely change position on things.

          • Rosetinted 10.1.1.2.1

            Reminds me of Marx and proletariat and bourgeoisie.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeoisie

            I think he considered that it was hard to get away from the proletariat class. He made it that you changed class when you had the means of production. But there seemed to be another view about the bourgeois in wikipedia and that sounds like our present middle class. One adjective used was materialistic.

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    And the final total for the advance voting was a staggering 717,579 advance votes against 334,558 in 2011       Tonight, I’ll be watching the TV3 election coverage because I could bare Paul Henry’s smugness one inch more than Mike Hosking’s...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Vice article on NZ election
    Here is my Vice article on the NZ election....
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • The attempt to kill off Internet MANA
    It’s the last day of campaigning today and the long list of those attacking Internet MANA got longer yesterday with Winston Peters backing Labour candidate Kelvin Davis against the MANA Movement’s Hone Harawira. Davis is now supported by Labour, National,...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • A final word on the election – it’s now all up to you
    Brothers & Sisters, the fate of Aotearoa is now all in your hands. We here at the Daily Blog have thrown everything we can at this bloody Government and have spent every waking hour of this campaign trying to highlight...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • I can’t tell what is National Party advert and what is the NZ Herald – ...
    I can’t tell what is National Party advert and what is the NZ Herald – but then again, I never could...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • TVNZ election coverage – white people telling other white people why Nati...
    TVNZ election coverage – white people telling other white people why National Party is great...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • REVIEW: Royals of Kihikihi
    What an absolutely stunning show.  I had to ask twice to check I’d heard right that this is the first staged production for Samuel Christopher, who also played a raw, real, but vulnerable, Wolf Royal, home from London for his...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • 800 Cops to detain 15 ‘terrorists’ – why Australia’s hysterical Isl...
    I’m sorry but I can’t take this current Australian terror threat seriously. 800 cops to detain 15 people and arrest one of them? A week after Abbot decides to send in Australian forces to the cluster fuck of Iraq, suddenly...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Unbelievable corruption inside Government to attack Kim Dotcom
    The corruption inside this Government just more and more filthy – we now have an ex-Customs Lawyer quitting  after being told to bury information that could embarrass the Government, specifically to do with Kim Dotcom… Curtis Gregorash said he was told...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Everyone Loves A Win-Win That Keeps G...
      Permit me to quote some figures at you… -68% of New Zealanders think political news on television focuses too much on politicians’ personalities and not enough on real issues. This is the key result of a recent UMR survey commissioned by...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, another week of ...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, another week of being the most in demand broadcaster in the country...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • EXCLUSIVE: Te Tai Tokerau independent poll (44% Hone-27% Kelvin) vs Maori T...
    The Te Tai Tokerau Maori TV poll on Monday this week painted a bleak picture for Internet MANA supporters, and it’s results have been seized upon by Labour, NZ First and even the Maori Party (who seem set once again...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The time for TPPA weasel words is over
    Almost every day of the election campaign there has been a policy announcement that would potentially run foul of what I understand is currently in the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA):  more constraints on foreign investment or investors … regulation of...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • MELTDOWN – Maori Party turns on their own Te Tai Tokerau candidate – ag...
    The tensions are building in Te Tai Tokerau with the Maori Party on the verge of meltdown. Days out from the election, the Maori Party Executive has tried to heavy their own Te Tai Tokerau Electoral Committee and their own candidate, Te Hira Paenga,...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • We Can Change this Government
    We Can Change this Government – Mike Treen at the First Union stop work election meeting...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Election 2014: For and Against
    With the general election tomorrow, we have had a very noisy campaign but little sign that the electorate wishes for a fundamental change of governmental direction. This reflects in part the fact that the economic cycle is close to its decadal...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Eye To Eye Uploaded: Martyn ‘Bomber’ Bradbury
    This interview was filmed a couple of weeks ago between Willie Jackson and myself, I was a tad off with my prediction of NZ First....
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The Donghua Liu Affair – The Players Revealed
      . . – Special investigation by Frank Macskasy & ‘Hercules‘ Speculation that the Beehive office of Immigration Minister, Michael Woodhouse, was behind the release of a letter linking Labour leader, David Cunliffe, with controversial Chinese businessman, Donghua Liu, is...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold NZ d...
    It should read ‘never stop spying’. As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold us down the river to the US by allowing the Southern Cross cable to be tapped… The ability for US intelligence agencies...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The NZ First-Labour Party attack strategy against Internet MANA better work
    The final days of the campaign are ticking down and Labour and NZ First are manoeuvring to kill off the Internet MANA Party by both backing Kelvin Davis for Te Tai Tokerau. It’s a risky gambit that they better pray to Christ...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Bill English’s latest insult to beneficiaries – apparently they are lik...
    National’s hatred towards the poor continues unabated as National desperately try to throw raw meat to their reactionary voter base in the hope to inspire enough hate and loathing to win back their redneck voters from the Conservative Party and from...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Eminem ain’t happy with John Key
    Eminem ain’t happy with John Key...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Key claims he did not inhale
    Key claims he did not inhale...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Final prediction on election result 2014
    What an election campaign. The character assassination of David Cunliffe kicked things off with the Herald on Sunday falsely claiming $100 00 bottles of wine, $15 000 books and $150 000 in donations  from a donor that turned out to be...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Live blog: Bainamarama takes commanding lead in Fiji elections
      Interview with Repúblika editor Ricardo Morris and Pacific Scoop’s Mads Anneberg. PACIFIC SCOOP TEAM By Ricardo Morris, Mads Anneberg, Alistar Kata and Biutoka Kacimaiwai in Suva WHILE the results are provisional at this stage, it is clear today that...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 5AA Australia: NZ Elections Two Days To Go! + Edward Snowden + Julian Assan...
    Recorded live on 18/09/14 – Captured Live on Ustream at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/multimedia-investments-ltd 5AA Australia’s Peter Godfrey and Selwyn Manning deliver their weekly bulletin: Across The Ditch. This week, they discuss the latest news as New Zealanders go to the polls on...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What has Colin Craig done for his Press Secretary to quit 2 days before ele...
    This is VERY strange.  Colin Craig’s Press Secretary Rachel McGregor, has quit 2 days before the election, allegedly telling ZB that Colin Craig was a “very manipulative man”. I’ve met Rachel many times in the past as Colin’s Press Secretary, she is...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” – A brief w...
    “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” said Key in the final leaders debate. Problem of course is that the 250 000 – 285 000 children living in poverty can not afford steak, milk, butter, eggs...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • National’s final bash of beneficiaries before the election
    On cue, whenever National feel threatened, they roll out a little bennie bash just to keep their redneck voter base happy. Nothing like a bit of raw meat policy to keep National voters focused on the evil threat solo parents...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • With All Of This In Mind, I Vote
    This is my last blog before the election and I really just want to speak from the heart. Right now in this country it seems to me that a lot of people consider the “essentials” in life to be simply...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Left has to vote strategically this election
    The dedication, loyalty, and tribalism of party politics means that sometimes the left lets itself down by not voting strategically. We all want our favoured party to get maximum votes, naturally, but the winner-takes-all approach doesn’t always suit multi-party left...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Dear NZ – as you enter the polling booth, stand up for your rights
    The last days before a NZ general election are a busy time as politicians make their pitch and party activists prepare to get out the vote. It is sort of weird watching from the distance of Europe the strangest election...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What is Waihopai, John, if it isn’t a facility for “mass surveillance...
    John Key assured us on RNZ’s Nine to Noon programme yesterday that “In terms of the Fives Eyes data bases… yes New Zealand will contribute some information but not mass wholesale surveillance.” How does this square with the operation of the...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Mass Surveillance and the Banality of E...
    Renowned journalist and intellectual Hannah Arendt coined the phrase “the banality of evil” to describe the normalisation of genocide in Nazi Germany. I thought of her phrase when I was listening to Glenn Greenwald and other international whistle-blowers talking about...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Election. Down. To. The. Wire
    Funny how last week it was John Key winning by 50%, now it’s neck and neck. I have always believed this election would be down to the wire and it is proving so. The flawed landline opinion polls the mainstream...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 3rd Degree uses Whaleoil for story ideas as if Dirty Politics never happene...
    TV3s 3rd Degrees smear job on Kim Dotcom last night doesn’t bear much repeating. It was pretty pathetic journalism from a team who have brought us some great journalism in the past. It is sad to see 3rd Degree stooping...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Live blog: Bainimarama takes early lead in Fiji’s election
    Pacific Scoop’s Alistar Kata reports from yesterday’s voting. By Alistar Kata of Pacific Scoop in Suva Prime Minister Voreqe Bainimarama took an early lead in provisional results in the Fiji general election last night. With provisional results from 170 out...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Has The NSA Constructed The Perfect PPP?
    Former intelligence analyst and whistleblower, Edward Snowden – speaking live to those gathered at the Auckland Town Hall on Monday September 17, 2014. Investigation by Selwyn Manning. THE PRIME MINISTER JOHN KEY’s admission on Wednesday that whistleblower Edward Snowden “may...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • No way – Key admits Snowden is right
    After claiming there was no middle ground. After claiming there was no mass surveillance. After calling Glenn Greenwald a henchman and a loser. After all the mainstream media pundits screamed at Kim’s decision to take his evidence to Parliamentary Privileges...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Bad luck National
    ...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • The incredible changing John Key story on mass spying – why the Moment of...
    While the mainstream media continue to try and make the Moment of Truth about Kim’s last minute decision to prolong his battle against John Key past the election into the Privileges Committee, the reality is that the Moment of Truth...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Themes of the Campaign
    There’s one area of a political campaign that just about everyone, at some point, falls afoul of. The campaign song. I’m not sure quite why it is, but it seems to be almost impossible for political parties to come up...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG – Denis Tegg – The NSA slides that prove mass surveillance
    The evidence presented by Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden on The Intercept of mass surveillance of New Zealanders by the GCSB is undeniable, and can stand on its own. But when you place this fresh evidence in the context of...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Ukraine, United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland
    The Ukrainian civil war discomforts me. It seems to me the most dangerous political crisis since the Cuban missile crisis of 1962. And it’s because of our unwillingness to examine the issues in a holistic way. We innately prefer to...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • John Key’s love affair with a straw man – the relationship intensifies
    John Key’s love affair with the straw man is now a fully-committed relationship. It’s now the first love of his life. Sorry Bronagh. Yesterday I pointed to Key’s constant assurances that there is no mass surveillance of New Zealanders by...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • A brief word on why Wendyl Nissen is a hero
    Wendyl Nissen is a hero. The sleazy black ops attack on her by Slater and Odgers on behalf of Grocery Council chief executive Katherine Rich is sick. All Nissen is doing in her column is point out the filth and...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • She saw John Key on TV and decided to vote!
    . . NZ, Wellington, 15 September – ‘Tina’* is 50, a close friend,  and one of the “Missing Million” from the last election. In fact, ‘Tina’ has never voted in her life.  Not once. In ‘Tina’s’ own words, politics has...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Eminem sues National Party for unlawful use of ‘Lose yourself’ bhahahah...
    …ahahahahahahahaha. Oh Christ this is hilarious… National Party sued over Eminem copyright infringment US rapper Eminem is suing the National Party for allegedly breaching copyright by using his song Lose Yourself in its campaign advertisements. The Detroit-based publishers of Eminem’s...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Are the Greens about to be snookered by a Labour-NZ First Government?
    I wrote last week that it was smart politics that the Greens pointed out they could work with National, the soft blue vote that’s looking for a home in the wake of Dirty Politics isn’t going to Labour, so the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Daily Election Update #12: NZ First to hold balance of power
    Winston Peters’ NZ First Party will hold the balance of power after tomorrow’s election, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. Mr Peters is then expected to back a National-led...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Election Day is Time to Refocus on Policies
    Over the course of this election campaign there has been a lot of focus on dirty politics and spying, and not a lot on policy. With election day looming, Gareth Morgan is calling for people to refocus on the issues....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • The Kiwi FM Alternative Election Commentary
    Saturday 20 September from 7pm on 102.2 Auckland, 102.1 Wellington, 102.5 Canterbury, or KiwiFM.co.nz...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Beneficiary Bashing unacceptable
    Kay Brereton of the Beneficiary Advocacy Federation of New Zealand says “ the comment made by Bill English yesterday comparing beneficiaries to crack addicts is shocking and incredibly poorly timed.”...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • UN Experience Beneficial
    Acclaim Otago representatives have just completed their participation at the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disability examination of the New Zealand government in Geneva, Switzerland. "It was an interesting two days which we believe has...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Changing face of NZ should be reflected in newsrooms
    With Fairfax Media’s Journalism Intern search closing on Sunday, Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy is urging aspiring journalists from Maori, Pacific and ethnic communities to apply. The deadline was recently extended to 10pm, Sunday...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • SPCA expresses concern over toxin in waterways
    Ric Odom CEO of Royal NZ SPCA has expressed concern over the toxic poison 1080 entering waterways, but DoC, Council’s and Ministry of Health have colluded to make it legal....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • NZ 2014 Election Index – 13-18 September
    Below is iSentia’s final weekly Election Index, covering the period 13-18 September and showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. The methodology used...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Epsom Candidate (Adam Holland) More Liberal Than ACT
    For the past four years I, like 500,000 other New Zealanders, have been illegally smoking cannabis for medicinal purposes and/or even just for the occasional laugh with friends on the weekend. We don't hurt anybody, we don't cause nuisance, we...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Left Coalition Will Save Dolphins
    A left coalition would safeguard both Māui and Hector’s dolphins, as well as revive our inshore ecosystems. Labour, Internet Mana and the Green Party all have strong policies in place for dolphin protection. The Maori Party, and to a certain...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Waihoroi Shortland: Ngāti Hine is not standing alone
    The Chairman of Te Rūnanga a Iwi o Ngāpuhi, Sonny Tau is blowing smoke worthy of a Dotcom rally with claims that Ngati Hine is standing alone in its opposition to Tūhoronuku says the Chairman of Te Rūnanga o Ngati...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Oceania voices on environment loud and strong
    While money and energy continues to be spent on global talks about climate change, Pacific islanders are scrambling to build sea walls out of sticks, stones, shells and coral, to protect their lands and homes from erosion and rising sea...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Prime Time with Sean Plunket – Tonight
    No MPs tonight --- the campaign will be over at 9 30. Instead we will look back --- and possibly forward on what we have learned and what might happen. Listener Political Columnist Jane Clifton Editor in Chief, NZ Herald,...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Election fails to address youth financial wellbeing
    Young people don’t feel included in New Zealand’s financial success and believe inequality is a problem, according to a new survey conducted by Westpac’s Fin-Ed Centre at Massey University....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Winston’s Waffle doesn’t hide the facts
    The Conservative Party is celebrating the ASA's finding announced today that rejected all but one of the complaints raised against its controversial “Conservatives or Peters” pamphlet. “Despite pages of complaints from Peters legal team the only...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • NZ Independent Coalition looking forward to tomorrow
    “Our team is looking forward to tomorrow. It is a real opportunity to reclaim politics for the people,” said NZ Independent Coalition leader Brendan Horan....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Insights Issue 35/2014 – 19 September 2014
    Insights Issue 35/2014 - 19 September 2014 In This Issue • RMA reform the golden unicorn of policy | Jenesa Jeram...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Special voting arrangements made for NIWA crew
    One of the most unusual polling stations for this year’s general election is in the middle of the ocean miles from land. NIWA’s flagship research vessel Tangaroa, has been doubling as a polling booth for crew and scientists at sea....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Tourism operators urged to vote strategically
    Tourism operators should make sure they know their local candidates’ view on tourism and use their vote to support the country’s second largest export industry, says Chris Roberts, Chief Executive, Tourism Industry Association New Zealand (TIA)....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • WGTN: March for free education
    We are students, university staff, and members of the community. Whichever parties form a government after September 20th, we are demanding an end to corporatisation of education....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Evidence of Corruption a National Scandal
    Internet Party leader Laila Harré will take evidence of corruption to international forums if there is not a full Royal Commission to investigate the growing evidence of the systematic use and abuse of democratic institutions and processes for political...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Govt continues to throw money at charter school experiment
    Official documents reveal the three primary sector charter schools approved last week will cost $2 million to set up as well as divert another $1.5 million of potential taxpayer investment from local state schools next year....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • ACT Final Election Rally
    Elections campaigns are an opportunity for political parties to put candidates and policy to enable voters to choose what sort of New Zealand we want. In this campaign there have been three tests by which you can assess the electoral...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Taxpayers on Hook Again for Solid Energy
    Responding to the Fairfax article that taxpayers are extending another $103 million to keep Solid Energy afloat, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Invermay Petition Tops 10,000 Signatures
    People across New Zealand continue to express their disgust at the downgrading of Invermay, says Dunedin North MP David Clark, as the Save Invermay petition he instigated earlier this year topped the 10,000 signature mark just days before the 2014...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • McVicar vows to continue fight for police
    Garth McVicar stated at a public meeting last week that he would fight to retain a 24/7 Police Station in Napier and no reduction in the number of police staff for the Hawkes Bay region, some said he was simply...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Party Vote Our Weapon in Fight Against Government Corruption
    Internet MANA urges New Zealanders to use their party vote to confront corruption in any new government....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Election day is tomorrow – make sure you’re a part of it!
    Tomorrow, Saturday 20 September, is election day, and New Zealanders’ last chance to have a say on who leads the country for the next three years....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Is the Shape of our Government out of the hands of Voters?
    In the last stuff.co.nz / Ipsos Political Poll before Saturdays election, National is down 5.1% to 47.7% and Labour up 3.7% to 26.15%. These results are remarkably similar to the 2011 election where National received 47.3% of the vote and...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Spirit of Suffrage a Call to Action for All Kiwi Women
    Internet MANA is drawing on the courage and integrity of New Zealand women on Suffrage Day – Friday, September, 19 – to encourage them to pay tribute to the spirit of their foremothers who gained women the vote....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Live Election Night Coverage on TV And Online
    Māori Television’s KOWHIRI 2014 – ELECTION SPECIAL kicks off at 7.00pm this Saturday with a five-hour broadcast focusing on the Māori electorates....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Judge’s Decision Disappoints Fish & Game
    Today’s decision to give a Temuka man 100 hours of community service for selling sports fish to the public has disappointed Fish & Game, which believes the sentence handed down was “too lenient and will not go far enough to...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Cutting-Edge Graphics Fire up TV3’s Election Night Coverage
    TV3’s Election Night coverage, hosted by John Campbell, will be enhanced by cutting-edge graphics that will showcase the night’s results....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Govt rushes to open charter schools in New Year
    The government’s decision to approve four new charter schools last week to open in January next year goes against the Minister of Education’s own advice that the schools ought to have at least a year’s preparation time....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • 7 Days And Jono And Ben at Ten Hijack Election Weekend
    The 7 Days and Jono and Ben at Ten (JABAT) comedians are running their own version of election coverage, with a schedule of entertainment and comedy across TV3, Kiwi FM, the web and social media this Friday and Saturday under...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Fewer Prisoners Equals Less Crime
    In its latest blog, ‘Abolishing Parole and other Crazy Stuff’,’ at http://blog.rethinking.org.nz/2014/09/krill-and-womble-independent-policy.html , Rethinking Crime and Punishment urges government to rethink its approach to releasing prisoners. “The public expectation is that the excellent reductions in the crime...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • McVicar slams his political opponents
    I want a safe and prosperous society and that can only be achieved if we have strong and vi-brant families – McVicar...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Falling economic growth – wage rises overdue
    “The lower GDP growth in the three months to June is further evidence that growth has peaked. New Zealand’s economy is on the way down to mediocre growth rates,” says CTU economist Bill Rosenberg. “Yet wage rises are still weak...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Get Out and Vote campaign a success
    Tens of thousands of workers from all around New Zealand have embraced the Get Out and Vote campaign and have created their own personalised voting plan, the CTU said today. “With three days of voting left in the 2014 General...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Animal Research Failing – So Do More Animal Research?
    Victoria University of Wellington is about to host a lecture on why the success rates of pharmaceutical development is so low and what can be done about it. The New Zealand Anti-Vivisection Society (NZAVS) welcomes discussion on this important...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • ALCP welcomes Prime Minister’s cannabis comments
    Mr Abbott's comments came on the same day as New South Wales and Victoria states announced they would be doing clinical trials of cannabis....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Conservative Party Press Secretary Resignation
    The Conservative Party is given to understand that this morning Press Secretary, Miss Rachel Macgregor resigned althought no formal advice of this has yet been received....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • By ACT’s logic, Epsom should vote for Conservative Candidate
    “Polling released late in the campaign shows that ACT is a busted flush and that by ACT’s own logic, centre-right Epsom voters should vote for the Conservative candidate”, says Labour candidate for Epsom Michael Wood....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • New online medical system
    Immigration New Zealand (INZ) is seeking registrations of interest for a new onshore panel physician network to support an online immigration health processing system....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Students, You Have a Choice, Vote!
    The New Zealand Union of Students’ Associations (NZUSA) is imploring students to ensure they make their voices heard this election, and join the many thousands who have already heeded the call....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Party vote ACT for three years of stability.
    Voters who are concerned that on the latest polls we may be heading for three years of instability have it in their hands to deliver a decisive result....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Women’s Suffrage Movement – Get Out and Vote!
    Tomorrow, Friday 19th September, MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki, Annette Sykes, will cast her vote at 12 noon at the Zen’s Building, Rotorua. This will follow a march through Rotorua that will assemble at 10am at City Focus, Rotorua. The...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • iPredict Daily Update
    David Cunliffe and Labour have made gains over the last 24 hours, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict, but John Key’s National is still strongly expected to lead the next...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Conservative’s Proposal to Abolish Parole Fatally Flawed
    The Conservative Party’s proposal to abolish parole doesn't stack up, however which way you look at it, concludes Kim Workman in Rethinking Crime and Punishment latest blog, ‘Abolishing Parole and Other Crazy Stuff’ at http://blog.rethinking.org.nz/2014/09/krill-and-womble-independent-policy.html...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Special Edition : The letter 18 September 2014
    Dr Jamie Whyte has been giving thoughtful speeches largely unreported. So we thought we would put out an edited version on the speech he gave yesterday. The full speech is on the website....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
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