Comments on: Campbell grills Peter Brown

By: big bruv

big bruv — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:57:39 +0000

Irish

That would be right, you chaps are always keen to ban anybody who does not agree with your policy.

So it is OK for you guys to misrepresent National party policy yet you are not going to let anybody question the policy of the Labour party.

By: Mike Collins

Mike Collins — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:47:05 +0000

Steve, The point I made still holds that Clarkson is not a minister of the crown and does not represent NZ overseas. I would have preferred he was sacked but it is different when a minister of Foreign Affairs is the leader of a party with racist policies. That is something the PM needs to act on. She is responsible for NZs reputation. No-one has discussed this point as yet so I find it offensive when people start saying I have brought no new debating points to the thread.

By: Historian

Historian — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:45:40 +0000

Big Bruv

I have read attacks on refugees and multi-cultural society by “Big Bruv” over on Kiwiblog. If you are the same “Big Bruv”, then you are a racist.

Therefore you must now sack yourself. Goodbye.

By: big bruv

big bruv — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:29:11 +0000

I am staggered that you guys are happy to defend the racist policy of NZ first and to defend the inaction of dear leader.

At what point would you say enough?, does Clark have to shoot somebody first or would that be OK as long as it was an Asian person.

IrishBill says: One more attempt to misrepresent our arguments like this and you will be banned.

By: Steve Pierson

Steve Pierson — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:21:01 +0000

“[Clarkson] is a member of the [National Party] and as such he is under the control of [John Key], unless [he] sacks him immediately then [he] approves of the racist policy of [Clarkson]”

so, Key should have sacked Clarkson or resigned himself. Eh, BigB?

By: big bruv

big bruv — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:16:55 +0000

Matthew

Your diversion tactic will not work, Clarkson is not a member of the govt and nor is he in coalition with the Labour party.

Winston is a member of the Labour led govt and as such he is under the control of dear leader, unless she sacks him immediately then she approves of the racist policy of NZ first.

By: Sam Dixon

Sam Dixon — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:07:04 +0000

In Big Bruv’s world, anything that you don’t explicitly condemn you love boundlessly.

By: Matthew Pilott

Matthew Pilott — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:59:31 +0000

Two years vs two decades? Tell you what bruv – show me an online blog from the 80′s and I’ll happily do so.

Now, are you being selecitve in your causes, or did you equally call for Peters and Clarkson to be sacked?

I’ll make it easier for you: in your next trol…I mean post, here, call for Clarkson to be fired, as well as Peters. Show some mettle, man, and stand by your convictions.

By: big bruv

big bruv — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:36:44 +0000

Matthew

Unless you can show me where you called for Roger Douglas to halt the sale of state assets back in the 80′s I will assume that you remain a fan of free market policies.

By: big bruv

big bruv — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:33:51 +0000

Another day passes and the left keep making excuses.

I know Clark is right into gutter politics yet even I did not think that she would go as low as this.

By: Matthew Pilott

Matthew Pilott — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:25:59 +0000

Bruv – unless you can show me where you have called for Clarkson to be fired for his comments too, I’ll assume that you’re just saying this for show, and that you support Brown’s comments.

By: Inventory2

Inventory2 — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:16:08 +0000

deemac – check out my last post on this thread, and you will find that I am indeed entering into a discussion with AncientGeek, albeit some time after he had “discussed” my comments in an earlier post.

By: deemac

deemac — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:05:57 +0000

Another day passes and the right wing trolls still waste acres of space on this blog repeating points that have already been answered ad nauseam.
They never actually enter into a discussion (the whole point of blogs), just make the same mad statements over and over again.
The phrase “get a life” springs to mind

By: big bruv

big bruv — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:27:50 +0000

Another day passes and Clark has still refuses to do anything about this disgusting racist attack.

“Whatever it takes”

By: Inventory2

Inventory2 — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:52:50 +0000

AG – they say that confession is good for the soul, so here goes. For much of my adult life, I would have been one of those that you were fighting. But things change, and a “mid-life crisis” (amazing how two failed marriages can affect you!) led to a paradigm shift in my attitude towards other cultures. That’s probably why I am so offended by Peter Brown’s tirade the other day. His venom was especially offensive when it is considered that he himself is a first-generation immigrant who has enjoyedf the largesse of New Zealand.

But make no mistake. These were not Peter Brown’s words. New Zealand First made immigration a key policy right from its genesis at the 1993 election, and the xenophobia has been present in the party throughout its life. New Zealand First has only ever had one leader – Winston Peters. If you do not agree that Brown was articulating Peters’s views, I would suggest that you are being very charitable to Peters. I am not so charitable, and believe that New Zealand’s international reputation will be harmed by Peters’s continued presence as Foreign Minister. And I stand by my claim that Helen Clark runs the risk of “guilt by association” if she does not sanction Peters. Then again, she knew she was taking a risk when she appointed him………