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Clear as batshit

Written By: - Date published: 7:48 am, November 5th, 2012 - 147 comments
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On Breakfast just now, Tourism Minister Key tried out his line on the international debacle arising from his insulting a prominent visitor to our country who was forbearing enough to spend time talking to Key’s kid. His plan is to try to stymie the story by saying ‘I’m not going to engage with what some reporter think they heard’. No denial. No owning his behaviour. Just pathetic.

Come on John. You said something fuckwit-ish – totally inappropriate for a Prime Minister and a Tourism, and churlish for a father who used his pull to get his kid to meet a star. Just be a man, own up, and apologise.

It’s going to be awkward in Parliament when Trevor Mallard jumps up and asks “Does he remember a conversation he had at a high school in Dunedin last week in which he described David Beckham as ‘thick as batshit’ or words to those effect; if so, does he agree that such language towards a guest to our country is completely inappropriate from the Prime Minister – who is also Minister of Tourism – and he ought to apologise for it?”

147 comments on “Clear as batshit”

  1. higherstandard 1

    Key is a dick who should concentrate on his job not his 3rd rate comedic talents

    ………

    Beckham along with many a premier league player, All Black, League player etc is in all likelihood as thick as batshit…. so what their job is sport not nuclear physics or philosophy.

    • Tom Gould 1.1

      It’s not as if Becks’ job was betting against New Zealand and slashing jobs for some global merchant bank. He’s a footballer. And by Tory logic, using your talent and wits to amass $300m should make him a hero, right?

      • Colonial Viper 1.1.1

        And by Tory logic, using your talent and wits to amass $300m should make him a hero, right?

        Right Wingers are inherently the most jealous/envious, status conscious types around. They’ll actually note that someone’s brand new Porsche Cayman is the S spec as opposed to “just” the (cheaper) standard spec, for instance.

    • Colonial Viper 1.2

      hs – you have a very limited concept of what intelligence is.

    • Draco T Bastard 1.3

      Key is a dick who should concentrate on his job not his 3rd rate comedic talents

      I’m sure he does – selling out NZ to his rich foreign mates.

    • mike e 1.4

      Lower standard you are past your used by date and are as thick as batshit as well as a dick !
      When you look at the Allblacks over the past twenty years you would find most of them have got tertiary degrees!
      Then you will find that exercise increases ones ability to think!
      Exercise also stops the decline in memory loss!
      Maybe shonkey should shut his diarrhoea diatribe and play some football!

      • higherstandard 1.4.1

        Plenty of idiots with tertiary degrees mike more so these days compared to older times when a university degree was at least indicative that one could at least string a sentence together and count on your fingers

        Judging by your incoherent rant I’d wager you’ve probably got an MBA or a PhD quite recently.

        • mike e 1.4.1.1

          No standard So you are trying to give me the 3rd degree!
          David Kirk! to you you jerk!
          Chris Laidlaw!
          Richie McCaw!
          The list would be to long for you to read!

          • alwyn 1.4.1.1.1

            One has to agree that the first two on your list are real graduates.
            McCaw, on the other hand, although he did attend University, did not I believe actually graduate. I do not regard an honorary Doctorate as qualifying.
            That’s two out of about 1100 All Blacks. Surely you can come up with some more real graduates?

          • higherstandard 1.4.1.1.2

            Chris Laidlaw got his degree years ago, before even an old git like myself, and Kirk’s would’ve been a good thirty years ago, McCaw is no doubt a good bloke but i’m sure he’d be the first to admit that he’s no genius outside of the sporting arena.

        • Rogue Trooper 1.4.1.2

          aahhh, String Theory.

          -lowerstandard (Rogue)
          :)

  2. Brian 2

    Exactly – if he hadn’t said this he would be denying it vehemently and demanding the evidence be produced.

  3. marsman 3

    Is John Key claiming the reporter heard him wrong or that the reporter is lying? Do we hope there is a recording of John Key thus insulting a visitor to our country?

    • Lightly 3.1

      “Is John Key claiming the reporter heard him wrong or that the reporter is lying?”

      Well, he’s not claiming that. Because he’s not actually denying what he said. He’s trying to claim it was somehow a private conversation …. with a bunch of school kids… on an official visit…. in front of a reporter.

      This isn’t the first time that Key has said something bad in front of a journalist and responded by trying to attack the journo…. we all remember “we would love to see wages drop”, don’t we? http://thestandard.org.nz/did-key-try-to-get-wage-drop-journalist-sacked/

    • Jester 3.2

      I understand David Shearer has a tape of the conversation.

      • Rodel 3.2.1

        Can’t wait to hear what The PM says about our next British visitor and his ‘wife’.
        Bet he won’t risk his night hood, sorry knighthood, with words like ‘gay’ or ‘batshit’.
        Oh go on John….do it..”say something funny like a young person…ask your kids what is clever these days.

  4. vto 4

    It’s just another revelation of the way Key goes about his daily toils … i.e. just jokes without thinking, speaks without understanding, fires off bullshit as quick as a firecracker and carries on completely oblivious to others around him…. he has no comprehension, or rather care, of the reactions of those around him. Their sensibilities are of no concern to him.

    that is the revelation

  5. Tracey 5

    I shudder to think the furore in the Nat party and the media if our former PM had said something like this… except she never would because from the beginning she accepted that the job was important and required dignity.

    Remember our current PM cut short an international conference because he had tickets to Fleetwood Mac… This is not a leadership position for him it’s a things he’s trying… it’s a game a lark something he’s a having a go at. People who don’t get that it doesn’t actually matter alot to him either way whether has the job or not are deluding themselves. He sees it as his ticket tot he celebrity circuit to be as excited as a little boy meeting celebrities and sports people… which is fine, unless you are leader of a country trying to find its way to transparency, accountability, more jobs and a fairer society.

    To have seen batshit wouldn’t he have had to get dirty??? Can’t see it myself, that’s what Bill English is for.

    • alwyn 5.1

      Which former PM are you talking about?
      Is it by any chance the one who insulted the then President of the US and ended up having to apologise to him for her comments on the Iraq war?

  6. Craig Glen Eden 6

    Im really puzzled John Key seems to have a lot of private and secret conversations that he either cant remember having or dosent want others to hear and yet he is continuously heard by others to have had.
    Some one should tell him to talk more quietly then so others dont hear!!!!!!!!!!!

  7. OneTrack 7

    Groan. Another story about nothing that nobody cares about except people who already hate John Key. Yes, I do expect Mallard will get up and waste the parliaments (and the countries) time with such a stupid question. I am sure he will think he is a very smart boy when he does too. Since he can’t seem to come up with any real way of holding the government to account (you know, what opposition parties are supposed to do) he will fall back on this side show stuff. Why do they get called the “nasty party”? Beats me.

    Who, honestly, cares what JK might or might not have said about Beckham? What ….. difference does it make?

    • Zorr 7.1

      He makes us all look bad because as the elected leader of our country he represents the majority of voters at the time of the previous election. This means that his actions reflect poorly on our available choices… when Key is the lesser of two evils to the majority of the population, what does this say about us?

      And, tbh, David Shearer is causing me to become incredibly disillusioned about the prospects of a 2 term National government and depressed about the ramifications of such a situation… >_<

      • Jim Nald 7.1.1

        Hey Zorr

        Re “incredibly disillusioned about the prospects of a 2 term National government and depressed about the ramifications”

        – do you mean to say: the prospects of a 3 (THREE) term National government?

        • Zorr 7.1.1.1

          Sorry – had been pretty much meaning disillusioned with my hopes that National would only last 2 terms…

          Brain fade Monday…

    • crashcart 7.2

      Yea who cares if the PM and minister of Tourism is reported in a major English paper insulting one of their favourite stars. That is totally the how we expect someone in his position to act isn’t it.

      You say people who only hate Key will care. I disagree. Yes people who hate Key will jump all over it. Just like all his fan boys such as your self will claim it’s not important. However these are the things that make those who actually shift their position and truly decide elections wonder if this guy actually has the professionalism to do the job. I know I voted for Key in 2008. It was his performance on Letterman that made me realise that he wasn’t a PM but more of an attention seeking embarrassing family member. Except it is the whole of NZ that he is embarrassing.

    • framu 7.3

      “Why do they get called the “nasty party”?”

      because a bunch of hollow tory spin doctors sold that line to you, thats why

      and no – im not a labour voter

    • Fisiani 7.4

      Abso-lutely . I really hope that Labour waste a question or on this in QT. That would just be another own goal. No wonder National is at 45%. The amazing aspect is why they are not polling even higher. National are fully focused on getting the economy back in shape and growing employment whilst the opposition flounder on such inanities. Watch for a further fall in Labour polling .

      • Lanthanide 7.4.1

        :roll:

      • Rosie 7.4.2

        You’re absolutely hilarious Fisiani.

        “National are fully focused on getting the economy back in shape and growing employment……..”

        Life on Planet Key is obviously agreeing with you

  8. Colonial Viper 8

    It’s amazing that a PM of our country would insult and run down a prominent British citizen and sporting hero.

    Key needs to understand that it is not cool showing off to teenage school girls and he sets a very bad example as an ungrateful gossip.

    • Populuxe1 8.1

      Oh Please – stop clutching your pearls. The British haven’t given much of a crap about Becks since he blew them off for the LA Galaxy, and those self-same tabloids take great glee in referring to Becks and Bosh as Thick and Thin. Given some of the nasty names you’ve called various Nats on her, your righteous indignation rings somewhat hollow.

      • David H 8.1.1

        But that was the MEDIA. Not the fucking PRIME MINISTER of New Zealand. Jesus it’s all about how it looked on the world stage.

        Now David Beckham is a football star made his millions with his talent which was kicking a ball, (Unlike Key who made his millions Preying on the weak and poor.) And he made a lot, Six times Keys pile. And to have kept them and made more, is probably down to his missus, because everyone KNOWS he is as thick as pig shit They just don’t say it out loud. Along comes Shonky saying “duh David Beckhams as thick as batshit” What a dipstick.

        • Populuxe1 8.1.1.1

          A few column inches in the yellow press of the UK hardly counts as the “world stage”. It’s a piddle in the sea and no one cares. Get a sense of proportion.

  9. Lanthanide 9

    Key is just going to answer “I cannot recall a conversation that never happened”.

    • mike e 9.1

      TSM key is thick as bat shit and homophobic probably trying to emulate a more successful celebrity
      Who has captained England ! probably more demanding than Shonkeys photo opportunism.
      At least I bet you Beckham is not suffering early onset Alzheimers!

      Key is from the party that promotes personal responsibility.
      Yet sets an opposite example of lying virtually all the time!
      His leadership of the country is the joke!

  10. King Kong 10

    Has anyone checked if David Beckham is alright?

    • Colonial Viper 10.1

      Has anyone checked if our reputation as a sovereign nation has been flushed down the toilet, again?

      • King Kong 10.1.1

        Enhanced I would imagine.

      • muzza 10.1.2

        What reputation would that be, its always been a mirage.

        Imagine if the really juicy details about politicans, who have their arms up their back were ever leaked into the real world…

        People would still call it BS, and keep wondering why the country continues to be represented by types who want to trash the place!

        Why is Helen so high up at the UN again..

    • mike e 10.2

      Primitive Primate he’s to posh to get involved in countries that barely have a turn over equivalent to his wealth!

  11. Bill 11

    …by saying ‘I’m not going to engage with what some reporter think they heard’

    Has he changed his story? I’m sure as I was skimming stories on this that he was claiming it was someone (ie, not a reporter) who had thought they heard him say…

    Thing is ‘someone’ is you or I in terms of perception…an ordinary person… whereas ‘a reporter’ is some ‘other’ in terms of perception and identification. I’d be interested now, to hear from the actual people who ‘thought’ they heard him say something. And I hope it’s a bunch of 14 year old kids he’s dismissing and accusing of lying.

  12. Dr Terry 13

    Key believes that being a smart-arse is to be funny. Moreover he mistakes sarcastic put-downs for humour.

    As Shakespeare says, “O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”

    Tennyson, “Words, like nature, half reveal and half conceal the soul within.”

    Abraham Lincoln, “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”

  13. kea 14

    Perversely, one could argue that with things being dire for many after the Chch quake, the volcanic ‘burb’, and the economy – a clowning PM is a welcome distraction from unpleasant realities.

    Quick, enrol Shearer in a clowning improv course somewhere !

  14. tsmithfield 15

    Seems that Key for taking the piss out of Beckham for his intelligence or lack thereof.

    From the article:

    Another promotion for the tape featuring England football captain David Beckham was also banned.

    The ad featured Beckham asking his wife: “Victoria, how do you spell DVD?”

    It appears that the ad would have been tapping into a public perception that Beckham isn’t the brightest candle in the cathederal. So, what Key has said probably wouldn’t surprise many.

    • mike e 15.1

      TSM key is thick as bat shit and homophobic probably trying to emulate a more successful celebrity
      Who has captained England ! probably more demanding than Shonkeys photo opportunism.
      At least I bet you Beckham is not suffering early onset Alzheimers!

    • felix 15.2

      tsmithfield,

      Key’s vulgar remark to the schoolgirls was not so much “things-the-pm-shouldn’t-say-because-they-might-not-be-true”, although he seems to have enough trouble with those.

      No, this is more in the category of “things-that-are-not-particularly-controversial-but-still-shouldn’t-really-be-said-to-a-bunch-of-schoolgirls-in-a-sweary-way-by-the-head-of-govt-in-case-it-makes-us-look-like-a-nation-of-cunts.”

      It’s quite a broad ranging category, but the lines around it are pretty clear and only a true fuckwit would cross them deliberately.

      • TheContrarian 15.2.1

        Do we have confirmation he was actually addressing a group of school girls?

        Like I said – for all we know at the moment he could have been in the fucking carpark and was overheard by an adult

        • crashcart 15.2.1.1

          The most recent reports are saying it was inresponse to a question from the school girls as to what Beck s was like. He said “good looking but stupid as batshit” or something along those lines.you are right though. Until Key fronts up on it at the moment it’s all speculation.

        • felix 15.2.1.2

          That’s your speculation.

  15. SouthDeeznuts 16

    Way to miss the point…

  16. McFlock 17

    Apparently, Key was having a “personal conversation” with the schoolkids at the photo-op. Should be charged with grooming (to be young nats).
         
    Anyway, Key’s desperate attempts to fit in with plebs by using what he believes is their language is shown up in the same article: on a rural radio show he thought the word “gay” way an insult.
           
    So, the world on planet Key: yoofs swear all the time, farmers are homophobic rednecks, and “whatever it takes” has a small budget and a short expiry date.

    • felix 17.1

      I wonder how much his salary would be worth if we deducted all the time he seems to spend on personal conversations, personal meetings, private cups of tea, celebrity rounds of golf and general joking around.

      Not much I reckon. Probably just the hour or two in question time every couple of weeks.

    • Colonial Viper 17.2

      Apparently, Key was having a “personal conversation” with the schoolkids at the photo-op.

      Private huh. Plenty of journalists around as usual, but any tea pots this time?

  17. Kevin 18

    Beckham is proof that you don’t need a Phd to earn several million dollars, charm, good looks and a common touch has made David Beckham the international star he is today. David gives hope to all those non academic types out there , proving that with the right amount of talent and timing you can achieve at the highest level.
    John Key owes David Beckham an apology for his insulting and ignorant remark.

    • Populuxe1 18.1

      So it’s ok to be thick so long as you’re good at sports and/or pretty.

      • Colonial Viper 18.1.1

        Wow, what a smart ass elitist remark.

        • Populuxe1 18.1.1.1

          Says the bourgeois parasite whose every second utterance is a pontification on what the working classes really need and how awful things like reality television are, and how stupid most New Zealanders are etc etc…
          By the way, is that use of “ass” instead of “arse” an admission that you work for the CIA – you used to apply that logic to me all the time.

  18. ianmac 19

    Look out. He has done it again!

    Key jokingly criticised a red top worn by presenter Jamie Mackay throughout an interview on The Farming Show last week. …
    “You’re munted mate you’re never going to make it. You’ve got that gay red top on.”

    An expression used by kids to put down other kids? But for a PM????
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10845253

  19. It would seem Key didn’t actually say it too children but that he was overheard by someone else. And if he was talking to a friend or colleague then he is allowed to express his view.

    Hell, imagine some of the shit MP’s say about each in private

    • Colonial Viper 20.1

      It would seem that Key was trying to show off to teenage girls that he knew David Beckham, and on an official visit as PM and Parliamentarian he shouldn’t be talking in front of kids as if he were at the pub.

      Totally inappropriate.

      • TheContrarian 20.1.1

        “It would seem that Key was trying to show off to teenage girls that he knew David Beckham, and on an official visit as PM and Parliamentarian he shouldn’t be talking in front of kids as if he were at the pub.”

        Well considering we don’t know if he was in fact talking in front of kids (hell, it could have been in the fucking carpark for all you know) or if any kids heard him don’t think you’re being a little presumptuous? Don’t think the news and teachers would be complaining about John key swearing in front of children if that were the case.

        • felix 20.1.1.1

          If he’s on the job it’s not private.

        • Colonial Viper 20.1.1.2

          Don’t think the news and teachers would be complaining about John key swearing in front of children if that were the case.

          They are complaining mate, Keys lost a shit load of votes, but doesn’t care. As for the news, Key could set his farts on fire and the NZ Herald would run a story on the PM supporting alternative fuels.

          • TheContrarian 20.1.1.2.1

            meh, personally if he was addressing student specifically when he said i can see how that is a problem but if he was discussing something with a friend or colleague then he is entitled to an opinion and it is pretty pale in comparison to what MP’s scream at other in the house.

            • Colonial Viper 20.1.1.2.1.1

              He wanted to show off to the young girls that he and his son had met David Beckham. Sorta lame and juvenile.

              • “He wanted to show off to the young girls that he and his son had met David Beckham. ”

                What unsubstantiated crap

                • Colonial Viper

                  It makes sense, Key wanting to be the cool guy in front of some teenage girls, dissing some famous sports star by talking some trash.

              • mike e

                Celebrity over substance how the young view the world but the substance (lack of)got in the way!
                terrible stuff bat shit!

    • toad 20.2

      Never mind. David Shearer will have a tape recording of what he actually said. Oh, wait…

  20. BM 21

    Why do I get the feeling the Labour party is involved in this beat up.

    • mike e 21.1

      Boringly Mundane Doh because Key is handing them all the ammunition they need!

      • BM 21.1.1

        I reckon Clare Curran may have something to do with this.

        • felix 21.1.1.1

          I reckon she didn’t. So where are we now?

          • BM 21.1.1.1.1

            Wait a week and see what comes out.
            Doesn’t this strike you as another Labour driven attempt to slag of the PM also that Shearer refuses to comment on it , does he know something?

            • crashcart 21.1.1.1.1.1

              Yea what in the hell are the opposition doing pointing out when the PM is doing things wrong? What the hell has this world come too?

            • Lightly 21.1.1.1.1.2

              But this is a RNZ reprot based on what the reporter heard. What’s that got to do with Labour?

              And why would Labour make up a story that Key talked incoherent smack about David Beckham to some private school girls in Dunedin? No-one would ever believe them.

  21. The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 22

    Why do we demand that people who are good at sport also be smart?

    No-one says: that Enrico Fermi may be sharp as a tack, but he is shit at rugger.

    • Stephen Hawking is brilliant but he is fucking hopeless at water-polo

    • felix 22.2

      I don’t know Ole, but I think the real question is “Why do we demand that people who are representing us as a nation behave in a diplomatic and dignified manner in public rather than being dickheads 24/7?”

      • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 22.2.1

        I don’t know, Felix. I think I would prefer that people representing us said what they think, rather than considering their primary responsibility not to offend people. I think the modern fashion for avoiding causing offence is a little tiresome.

        • felix 22.2.1.1

          Yeah, fuck it. What makes the job so bloody important anyway?

        • Colonial Viper 22.2.1.2

          I think I would prefer that people representing us said what they think, rather than considering their primary responsibility not to offend people.

          Yeah except when you’re leader of a country, wars happen.

  22. tsmithfield 23

    It seems to me the only thing Key is guilty of is insulting bat shit. :smile:

    • felix 23.1

      Yeah, you already tried that.

      Like I said, it’s nothing to do with the accuracy of the remark, just the appropriateness.

      • King Kong 23.1.1

        Yes I remember how angry you got when Helen Clark called all residents of the West Coast “feral inbreds”.

        Keys comments are probably not as offensive but he still deserves your wrath.

        • felix 23.1.1.1

          Except she didn’t.

          • King Kong 23.1.1.1.1

            Yes she did. I overheard it. She was speaking privately to a group of intellectually handicap preteens who had all been the victims of incest.

            Absolutely disgraceful. I remember at the time how the indignant, but made up anger, came flowing out of me like a volcano. “She’s the P fucking M” I howled.

            • felix 23.1.1.1.1.1

              Joke all you like, you’re still lying.

              If I’m wrong, prove it with a source, a reference, a link, anything you can find that shows that Helen Clark “called all residents of the West Coast feral inbreds”.

              Hint: we’ve done this all before, and there isn’t one, because she didn’t say it.

              • Populuxe1

                How about Clark calling New Zealanders “deeply racist”
                http://www.stuff.co.nz/sunday-star-times/features/3751531/Acting-giant-reflects-on-NZ-society
                 
                Or calling John Campbell a “sanctimonious little creep”

                • Colonial Viper

                  Well, at a guess there are a few hundred thousand NZers out there who ARE deeply racist. Mostly against Maori and Pasifika in my experience.

                  • Populuxe1

                    Ah, but is it (a) any less true than Becks not being the brightest crayon in the box, and (b) any less likely to hurt people’s feelings?

                    • Colonial Viper

                      The PM’s a dick, his dickhead statements prove it, what does that make you, running irrelevancies as cover for his poor representation of NZ?

                • felix

                  She didn’t say that either.

                  Here’s the quote, from Sir Ian McKellan, from your own frickin link: “She said to me that New Zealand was really a very racist country, and she was determined to do everything she could as prime minister to change that.”

                  The way you phrased it you made it look like you were quoting Helen Clark saying “New Zealanders are deeply racist” when you have no record whatsoever of such words being used. It may well be Sir Ian’s summary of an hour-long conversation ffs.

                  Bit deceptive, mate.

                  • Populuxe1

                    Feeling a bit irony deficient, felix? Key was presented as if he was being quoted directly, although we have no idea of the circumstances.
                    Interesting that no one has bothered to contradict the John Campbell incident. Predictable.
                     

                    • felix

                      I refer you to McFlock’s earlier pointing-out-of-the-obvious-to-idiots here: http://thestandard.org.nz/clear-as-batshit/comment-page-1/#comment-543231

                      According to the reporter present, Key made the comments “while talking to students at Dunedin’s St Hilda’s Collegiate on Friday”.

                      Seems a pretty clear description of the circumstances. What’s confusing you?

                      ps I note that you didn’t dispute that you made up the Clark quote.

                    • McFlock

                      And to absolutely explicit, the RNZ report here  actually states that “Key joked with a group of pupils” when he used the phrase. 10sec in, within even a tory’s attention span.
                           
                      Apparently, when Key is taking reporters on a photo-op with schoolkids, anything he says during that photo-op is an off the record “personal conversation”.
                             
                      But keep polishing that turd. 

                    • Populuxe1

                      Are you calling Sir Ian a liar?

                    • McFlock

                      Nope. Either Key or RadioNZ.
                           
                      Based on past form, my money’s on Key being a lying prick to cover his arse. 
                           
                      And your gandalf-line was a bit loose with strict reality yourself. 

  23. Abi 24

    Thanks for your grateful informations, this blogs will be really help for freshers jobs.

  24. geoff 25

    He’s hedging his bets becasue he thinks maybe Radio NZ’s reporter actually has the recording of him saying it …but is choosing to hold onto that tape …

    Always a risk-taker. Taking a long time to learn that you can’t wing it ALL the time when you are PM

    GG

  25. Anything this bl—y nact govt touches turns to ‘batshit’
    Change regulations,turns to ‘batshit’
    Changes to policy, turns to ‘batshit’
    The ‘batshit’ leader and his ‘batshit’ ministers should all
    resign,to save NZ from any more ‘batshit’ madness.

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    8 hours ago
  • Labour MPs are taking it to the Government in the House over their destruct...
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    8 hours ago
  • The price of rotten cops IV
    Remember the Nelson Red Devils case? Back in 2012, drugs and firearms charges against 28 alleged gang members were thrown out because police abused the court process by forging a search warrant and an arrest warrant to build the credibility… ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    9 hours ago
  • Best and worst New Zealand flag designs
    Dan Taipua, Dave Bell and Lucy Zee review some of the designs submitted for the for the new New Zealand flag. Check out the full gallery of designs here. ...
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  • World News Brief, Friday May 22
    PunditBy Daily Digest
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  • A hard rain is a’gonna fall.
    Although I am loathe to prognosticate on fluid situations and current events, I have been thinking about how the conflict in Iraq has been going. Although I do not believe that the Islamic State (IS) is anywhere close to being… ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    9 hours ago
  • Got business out of town? Need a hire car?
    Whether you are heading of town for a conference or taking a break and need a hire car, your TEU Member Advantage program has you covered.  Use your member benefits to access either reduced car hire rates or excess on… ...
    10 hours ago
  • An abuse of the OIA
    In the wake of revelations that Prime Minister John Key had systematically and repeatedly bullied, sexually harassed and assaulted a cafe waitress, the New Zealand Herald published a piece exposing the victim. It seemed like retribution, and the involvement of… ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    10 hours ago
  • Saying it Loud on Climate in Christchurch
    The Government’s Christchurch consultation meeting on New Zealand’s emission targets was inspiring – not for what was in the Ministry for the Environment’s (MFE’s) defeatist video about the obstacles to changing to a low carbon future, but for what the… ...
    frogblogBy Eugenie Sage
    11 hours ago
  • Calling Peak Car?
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    11 hours ago
  • Australia’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy on...
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    11 hours ago
  • Fiji: Removing the opposition
    Last year, Nauru's government abused its parliamentary majority to suspend the opposition from Parliament on a spurious privilege motion. Its a disease which is spreading: last night, Fiji's "democratic" regime did the same, suspending an opposition MP for making a… ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    11 hours ago
  • Budget 2015: Don’t worry about the surplus, worry about this… Whiteboar...
    Bill’s budget put a bit of extra change in the pocket of poor families, but that came at the cost of the promised surplus. But should you be worried about it? With government debt still only at 25%… ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy Gareth Morgan
    11 hours ago
  • The productivity trap – heads they win, tails we lose
    The article below was written in 2006, so some of the stats are a bit dated.  However the fundamental argument remains.  For instance, NZ productivity growth continues to be poor and NZ capitalists remain behind most of the OECD in… ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    12 hours ago
  • Attention leftie campaigners: Watch Lynton Crosby
    This is a video of Lynton Crosby, of Crosby/Textor fame and infamy, talking about how he approaches campaigns. It is well worth an hour of any serious campaigner's time - whether they're of the left or the right. I've… ...
    PolityBy Rob Salmond
    12 hours ago
  • Hard News: Friday Music: Out there in the world
    Friday Music posts here don't generally have much to do with my day job helping make a media TV show, but next week's Media Take is an exception. We're putting together a New Zealand music month-themed programme and one of the… ...
    12 hours ago
  • Government announces plan to grow Auckland housing bubble
    The key initiative in yesterday’s budget is a plan to grow Auckland’s housing bubble. Auckland’s housing bubble is projected to take over from dairy farming as the fastest-growing sector of the New Zealand economy. Consider a typical Mangere housewife. For… ...
    Can of wormsBy Can of Worms, Opened
    13 hours ago
  • Paul F Tompkins: The undisputed king of podcasts
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  • Budget 2015: What does it mean?
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    13 hours ago
  • What next?
    It feels really, really surreal to nearly be done with my degree. And terrifying, mostly. Right now I have a single 2000 word essay remaining for Politics of Protest and then three exams mid-way through next month, and… that’s it.… ...
    The little pakehaBy chrismiller
    15 hours ago
  • Solo parents forced to work; but where are the quality jobs?
    The Government is increasing the expectations of paid work from solo parents without any thought as to where the jobs will be, the Council of Trade Unions said today. “There are already 100,000 part time workers who are wanting more secure… ...
    CTUBy andrew.chick
    15 hours ago
  • April-15 Patronage
    Another month and another good patronage result from Auckland Transport – particularly for rail. Patronage in April is naturally down on the madness that is March due to the combination of a 30 day month, ANZAC day, Easter and School Holidays/Uni holidays.… ...
    17 hours ago
  • April-14 Patronage
    Another month and another good patronage result from Auckland Transport – particularly for rail. Patronage in April is naturally down on the madness that is March due to the combination of a 30 day month, ANZAC day, Easter and School Holidays/Uni holidays.… ...
    17 hours ago
  • Children and steady-as-you-go – but how steady?
    There are three political dimensions to the budget’s star “children in hardship” item. One is John Key’s ownership. That fits his protestations of concern about disadvantaged children — though action has been slow coming. He made his pile in… ...
    Colin JamesBy Colin James
    18 hours ago
  • Thoughts on budget 2015
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    DimPostBy danylmc
    18 hours ago
  • What if your MP was decided on the flip of a coin?
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    PunditBy Andrew Geddis
    1 day ago
  • Gordon Campbell on Budget 2015
    From the outset, the slogan for yesterday’s Budget – “The Plan Is Working” – begged to be mocked. There’s actually a plan for the national economy? Who knew? And its been working for whom, exactly? Not for families in poverty,… ...
    1 day ago
  • Building better connections between Asia and the Pacific
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    1 day ago
  • Budget 2015: Media releases and tertiary education coverage
    We will update this page over the next few days with media releases and news stories on Budget 2015 and its effect on tertiary education and on employment. Radio NZ: Govt tightens education purse strings The Government is expecting fewer… ...
    1 day ago
  • Helping Our Heritage Come Alive – Mt Eden Rd
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    1 day ago
  • Budget 2015 shows no plans for public sector wages
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says this budget does not address the wage rises needed across the public sector. ...
    1 day ago
  • Don’t expect to see chemical safety data sheets in restaurants
    I keep coming across this very naive form of chemophobic scare-mongering – the use of safety data sheets to frighten consumers about trace chemicals in their environment, food and drink. Here is an example anti-fluoridation propagandists continually use – safety data… ...
    1 day ago
  • World News Brief, Thursday May 21
    PunditBy Daily Digest
    1 day ago
  • Hard News: Mediaworks: The only horizon they see
    When it emerged last month that Campbell Live was facing the axe, I ventured that Mediaworks had become far more Julie Christie's company than it was John Campbell's. And I think that's the reality behind the news that Campbell Live… ...
    1 day ago
  • Andrew’s little Poem
    by Don Franks Twas the night before Budget When just for a change Andrew Little’s thought’s did more widely range Labour’s leader cast round in his mind for an angle On which a publicity moment might dangle Some little device… ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 day ago
  • One good thing
    Today's budget is a dismal affair, as the government shuffles money around and announces new spending while conveniently forgetting to mention that its a sub-inflation rise and that health and education are going backwards - as they have every year… ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Budget tougher for students – NZUSA and TEU media release
    Lowering the annual fee increases for students from 4 percent to 3 percent means universities, polytechnics and wānanga will have less money, say national student and staff unions NZUSA and TEU. Slightly slower fee rises are no good if the… ...
    1 day ago
  • Blah Budget: Lala-land forecasts on housing investment
    Some of the forecasts in the Budget beggar belief, and when they almost inevitably turn out wrong they spell disaster for New Zealand families. Here’s the clearest example. In the last year, investment in residential property ballooned by 16%. In… ...
    PolityBy Rob Salmond
    1 day ago
  • Blah Budget: Cynical bribery on the horizon
    Bill English has said time and again that new spending initiatives of around $1 billion each year are the responsible thing to do, and are the new normal. And, in the next two years, he is as good as… ...
    PolityBy Rob Salmond
    1 day ago
  • Blah Budget: Share of the economy going to workers continues to fall
    The BEFU documents today have unwelcome news for workers. Over the next four years, the share of the economy that ends up in the hands of workers through their wages will fall by around 1.3%. That 1.3% of GDP,… ...
    PolityBy Rob Salmond
    1 day ago
  • Bill English’s Budget illustrates complexity in welfare system
    Budget 2015 has been touted as a package for the poor. And it certainly delivers them more money. However, it gives with one hand and takes away with the other, revealing the confusing and perverse nature of our welfare system.… ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy Geoff Simmons
    1 day ago
  • Blah Budget: Pathetic half-measure on housing
    Yesterday, Paddy Gower thought he had a big scoop. He had leaked Budget docs alluding to a big government-lead house-building programme in Auckland. Today, the pathetic truth is revealed. The Budget puts only $52.2m – as a one off –… ...
    PolityBy Rob Salmond
    1 day ago
  • Blah Budget: Good idea on child poverty. Pity about the tinkering package.
    I can only speak personally, but I am genuinely pleased that the government is following through on its promise to focus on child poverty. New Zealand’s rates of child poverty are appalling, and anything that helps to bring them down… ...
    PolityBy Rob Salmond
    1 day ago
  • Blah Budget: Why there won’t be a surplus next year, either.
    Having failed to reach surplus in this, his promised year, Bill English looks set to fail next year, too. Having been over-optimistic this year to the tune of almost $1.2b – comparing BEFU 2014 to BEFU 2015 - Treasury has… ...
    PolityBy Rob Salmond
    1 day ago

  • Another new tax, another broken promise
    National has unveiled yet another new tax in this budget – a rural broadband levy that will almost certainly result in an immediate price hike for internet and telephone connections across New Zealand, Labour’s ICT spokesperson Clare Curran said “The… ...
    7 hours ago
  • Anniversary of Sri Lankan Tamil Massacre
    This is not going to be a happy story but if the Green Party of Aotearoa doesn’t want to know who else will? May 18th marks the anniversary of what is known as the ‘Mullivaikal massacre’ of Tamils in 2009 at… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    7 hours ago
  • Labour MPs join youth to take part in 40 hour famine
    A team of Labour MPs took part in the 2015 World Vision 40 hour famine and we were told by World Vision and the young people, that it was the first time MPs had joined them and how appreciative they… ...
    8 hours ago
  • Rodeo: ‘Family entertainment’ or animal abuse?
    Recently  TVNZ ran a story with confronting footage showing rodeo animals being punched, repeatedly shocked with electronic prods and having their tails violently twisted over their backs. It was clear that significant force was being used behind the scenes to make… ...
    GreensBy Mojo Mathers MP
    8 hours ago
  • Budget puts the squeeze on police
    The Government has cut funding to the New Zealand police force in the latest Budget, says Labour’s Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis. “The reduction is a whopping $15.3 million that could put front line officers at risk. ...
    8 hours ago
  • Crucial social services take another hit
    The Government looks set to slash half a million dollars of funding for critical social services, including Women’s Refuge and Barnados, says Labour’s Social Development spokesperson Carmel Sepuloni “Taking $500,000 from organisations aimed at improving the lives of vulnerable families… ...
    8 hours ago
  • Saying it Loud on Climate in Christchurch
    The Government’s Christchurch consultation meeting on New Zealand’s emission targets was inspiring – not for what was in the Ministry for the Environment’s (MFE’s) defeatist video about the obstacles to changing to a low carbon future, but for what the… ...
    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    11 hours ago
  • Budget silent on small business
    The Government has completely ignored one of the most important sectors of the economy – small and medium-sized enterprises – in Budget 2015, Labour’s Small Business spokesperson Jacinda Ardern says. "A stunning 41 per cent of jobs were created by… ...
    11 hours ago
  • Thank you John, it’s been bloody marvellous
    The departure of John Campbell is a blow to current affairs investigative journalism, Labour’s Broadcasting Spokesperson Clare Curran says. “Campbell Live stood out in its field. Its axing comes as local broadcasting in New Zealand remains in a state of… ...
    11 hours ago
  • KiwiSaver cut shows no long-term plan
    National’s cutting of the KiwiSaver kickstart is incredibly short-term thinking, typical of a Budget that is woefully short on ideas to generate wealth and opportunity, Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “New Zealand’s savings rate is far too low. KiwiSaver… ...
    13 hours ago
  • National hits the panic button for its 7th Budget
    National has hit the panic button for its 7th Budget in a desperate attempt to look like they’re taking action to reduce our shameful child poverty rates, but they are giving with one hand and taking with the other, Opposition… ...
    1 day ago
  • Panic and back-flips can’t hide twin deficits
    National’s token measures to fight fires they have left burning for seven long years can’t hide a Budget that is long on broken promises, short on vision and fails to reach surplus, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson. “After being… ...
    1 day ago
  • Auckland land measure seven years too late
    National are so desperate to look like they are doing something about the Auckland housing crisis they have dusted off Labour’s 2008 inventory of government land available for housing and re-announced it, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Despite National… ...
    2 days ago
  • Access to gender reassignment surgery essential
    I was frankly disgusted to hear the Minister for Health say that funding gender reassignment surgeries is a “nutty idea”. A recent study found that in New Zealand 1% of young people identified themselves as transgender, and 3% were unsure… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    3 days ago
  • Global milk prices now lowest in 6 years
    The latest fall in the global dairy price has brought it to the lowest level in six years and shows there must be meaningful action in tomorrow’s Budget to diversify the economy, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson. “Dairy prices… ...
    3 days ago
  • Big risks as CYF checks stopped
    Revelations that Child, Youth and Family is no longer assisting home-based early childhood educators by vetting potential employees should set alarm bells ringing, Labour Children’s spokesperson Jacinda Ardern says. “Doing away with an extra mechanism for checking potential new employees… ...
    3 days ago
  • Housing crisis about real people not numbers
    The Government’s continued failure to tackle the housing crisis is seeing thousands of vulnerable Kiwis being kept off social housing waiting lists, while others, who are on the list, are being forced to live in cars and garages, says Labour’s… ...
    3 days ago
  • Housing crisis about real people not numbers
    The Government’s continued failure to tackle the housing crisis is seeing thousands of vulnerable Kiwis being kept off social housing waiting lists, while others, who are on the list, are being forced to live in cars and garages, says Labour’s… ...
    3 days ago
  • State of origin
    Kiwis are increasingly concerned about the food they give their families. New Zealand consumers have the right to know where their food has come from, particularly when it involves animals, and should be able to expect our Government to label… ...
    GreensBy Steffan Browning MP
    3 days ago
  • Relationships Aotearoa
    It is disturbing that Relationships Aotearoa, a voluntary organisation set up in 1949 to help couples struggling with their relationships following the upheavals of World War II, may be forced to close, says Acting Spokesperson for the Voluntary and Community… ...
    3 days ago
  • An economy that is just working for some is an economy that is not working
    The National Party presents itself as a great manager of the economy, but if the economy is only working for some we really need to question that assertion. Alongside the perpetually elusive surplus, the levels of risk in our economy are… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    3 days ago
  • An economy that is just working for some is an economy that is not working
    The National Party presents itself as a great manager of the economy, but if the economy is only working for some we really need to question that assertion. Alongside the perpetually elusive surplus, the levels of risk in our economy are… ...
    GreensBy Jan Logie MP
    3 days ago
  • House prices to a crack $1 million in 17 months
    The average Auckland home is on track to cost $1 million in 17 months’ time if nothing substantial is done to rein in soaring price rises, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Auckland’s house prices have skyrocketed 63 per cent… ...
    4 days ago
  • Vital support services can’t be left in lurch
    The National Government has big questions to answer about how a provider of services to thousands of vulnerable New Zealanders is set to fold, Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson says. Relationships Aotearoa which provides support and counselling to families, individuals… ...
    4 days ago
  • Treasury and IRD on a capital gains tax
    Both the Treasury and IRD have been advising the National Government on the benefits of a capital gains tax. Documents released to the Green Party under an Official Information Act request show that John Key has been selective with the… ...
    GreensBy Russel Norman MP
    4 days ago
  • Charity legislation needs review
    It is unacceptable that the big corporate based charities claim  millions in annual income tax exemptions, while small community based and operated non-profit organisations  struggle to gain official charity status, Labour’s acting spokesperson for the Voluntary and Community Sector Louisa… ...
    4 days ago
  • John’s panic-Key response to housing crisis
    John Key needs to tell New Zealanders what caused his sudden change of heart that led to the Government’s scrambled and last-minute housing measures, Opposition Leader Andrew Little says. “The Prime Minister’s sudden rush of blood to his head followed… ...
    5 days ago
  • Keep our Assets Christchurch Campaign: An update
    I recently presented my submission to keep Christchurch Council assets at the Christchurch City Council’s public hearings on its 10 year plan on 13 May. The hearings are live-streamed and recorded so you can watch them on www.ccc.govt.nz. The Council’s… ...
    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    5 days ago
  • John Key finally admits there’s a housing crisis
    John Key’s weak measures to rein in the astronomical profits property speculators are making are an admission – finally – that there is a housing crisis, Labour Leader Andrew Little says. “But yet again National is tinkering with the housing… ...
    5 days ago
  • Government stifles voices in CYFs review
    The Government’s exclusion of the Māori Women’s Welfare League in a panel on the future of CYFs is a cynical ploy to stifle views, says Labour’s Māori Development Spokesperson Nanaia Mahuta. “It's unbelievable that a significant review on the future… ...
    1 week ago
  • Speech to the Otago Chamber of Commerce
    Thank you very much for the opportunity to be here today. It’s a pleasure as always to be back in the town that raised me. Growing up in St Kilda meant that there was one thing that was a big… ...
    1 week ago
  • Key can’t just be Prime Minister for Parnell
    John Key must show New Zealanders in next week’s Budget that he is more than the Prime Minister for Parnell, and is also the Prime Minister for Pine Hill, Putararu and Palmerston North, Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson says. In… ...
    1 week ago
  • Stop the conversions
    This week, some Waikato locals took me and intrepid photographer Amanda Rogers on a tour of some  lakes and waterways in their region, and up to the massive dairy conversions in the upper catchment of the Waikato River. It… ...
    GreensBy Catherine Delahunty MP
    1 week ago
  • More regional jobs go in Corrections reshape
    News that 194 Corrections staff are to lose their jobs will have ramifications not only for them and their families but for the wider community, Labour’s Corrections spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. Prison units at Waikeria, Tongariro and Rimutaka face closure… ...
    1 week ago
  • Government’s climate meetings off to a bumpy start
    On Wednesday, I attended a hui and an evening meeting that the Government had organised in Nelson as part of its climate change consultation tour, to support the Nelson community telling the Government to take meaningful action on climate change.… ...
    GreensBy Steffan Browning MP
    1 week ago
  • Taxpayers the only ones left feeling blue
    Ministry of Social Development bosses could have saved themselves thousands of dollars in consultants’ fees by providing staff with rose-tinted spectacles, Labour’s State Services spokesperson Kris Faafoi says. A report out today reveals the Ministry is spending over half a… ...
    1 week ago
  • Why are the regions still facing restrictions?
    Labour's Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford is questioning why the regions should continue to be saddled with LVR lending restrictions announced by the Reserve Bank today. “Labour has been calling for the regions to be exempted from LVRs for the best… ...
    1 week ago
  • The high costs of weak environmental regulation
    Te Waihora/Lake Ellesmere is described on the Department of Conservation website as “Canterbury’s largest and New Zealand’s fifth largest [lake], and an internationally important wildlife area.” But the lake is also polluted by nutrients leaching from farms in the catchment.… ...
    GreensBy Eugenie Sage MP
    1 week ago
  • Submissions to Wellington City Council on their Gambling Venues Policy
    Every three years Councils across the country are required to check that their gambling venue policies are still fit for purpose and they can choose to consult on their policy if they are thinking of making changes. Councils don’t have… ...
    GreensBy Denise Roche MP
    1 week ago
  • Reserve Bank action shows Govt out of touch and out of ideas
    The Reserve Bank’s unprecedented measures today show it understands the serious risks of the overheating housing market – in complete contrast to John Key’s refusal to acknowledge the crisis, Labour’s Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The Bank is right to… ...
    1 week ago
  • Send us your snaps: 25 Years of the Green Party
    This year we've hit a milestone. We're turning 25.To help celebrate a quarter of a century, please send us your photos from the last 25 years of the Green Party Aotearoa New Zealand! Note: Photos must be jpg, gif or… ...
    1 week ago
  • 25 Years of the Green Party
    This year the Green Party sends 25. To help us celebrate a quarter of a century please send us you photos of 25 years of the Green Party!Photos must be jpg,gif or png and smaller than 2MB. If you are… ...
    1 week ago
  • Bay growth plan too little too late
    Today’s Bay of Plenty growth study from MBIE is another example of Government spin - lots of talk but little action, says Labour’s Regional Development spokesperson David Cunliffe.  “This is a region that desperately needs to develop the downstream processing… ...
    1 week ago
  • Government bows to ACC pressure
     The Government has finally buckled to pressure from Labour and the New Zealand public in making a half billion dollar cut to ACC levies, but the full benefits are two years away,” says Opposition Leader Andrew Little.  “$500 million over… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • False figures cloud Auckland transport facts
    The Prime Minister should apologise and issue a correction after both he and Transport Minister Simon Bridges have been caught out misrepresenting facts on Auckland’s transport spending, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. "Both John Key and Simon Bridges have… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Govt books confirm National can’t post surplus
    The last publication of the Government’s books before the budget shows National will break its promise of seven years and two election campaigns and fail to get the books in order, says Labour’s Finance Spokesperson Grant Robertson. “The Government is… ...
    2 weeks ago
  • US state joins NZ with GE food labelling
    New Zealand has a similar law making the labelling of many GE foods compulsory, but the Government seems to let it slide.  Because the government has not monitored or enforced our GE food labelling laws since 2003, it seems the… ...
    GreensBy Steffan Browning MP
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour Pays Tribute to Erima Henare
    “E ua e te ua tata rahi ana, Ko te hua i te kamo taheke i runga raa. No reira e te rangatira Erima takoto mai I roto I te ringa o Ihowa o nga Mano e moe e.” ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour Pays Tribute to Erima Henare
    “E ua e te ua tata rahi ana, Ko te hua i te kamo taheke i runga raa. No reira e te rangatira Erima takoto mai I roto I te ringa o Ihowa o nga Mano e moe e.” ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour Pays Tribute to Erima Henare
    “E ua e te ua tata rahi ana, Ko te hua i te kamo taheke i runga raa. No reira e te rangatira Erima takoto mai I roto I te ringa o Ihowa o nga Mano e moe e.” ...
    2 weeks ago

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