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Clocking up the royalties

Written By: - Date published: 5:32 pm, November 29th, 2007 - 184 comments
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John Key’s new DVD doesn’t tell us much about what National would do in Government, but as we’ve noted before, his choice of Coldplay’s “Clocks” as the theme tune is more revealing than he may have intended.

Here are some of the lyrics:

Lights go out and I can’t be saved
Tides that I tried to swim against
Have brought me down upon my knees
Oh I beg, I beg and plead

Come out of things unsaid
Shoot an apple off my head

Confusion that never stops
The closing walls and the ticking clocks

Am I part of the cure
Or am I part of the disease

A couple of interesting questions are also raised:

Are National paying Coldplay their royalties for use of their property? They are legally required to do so, as APRA, the body responsible for collecting artists’ royalties, explains.

And, if National are paying out royalties to one of the world’s biggest bands on top of the $50,000 plus in other expenses, how much have National’s secret backers paid out for this 13 minute homage to John Key’s ego?

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184 comments on “Clocking up the royalties”

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  1. Billy the Double 141

    I’m back nothing there either apart from this brilliant piece by AK
    http://kiwiblogblog.wordpress.com/2007/11/30/homocracy-and-the-great-jewish-banker-conspiracy/#comment-1846

  2. Gruela 142

    Idiot/Savant has a good piece on the rejection of Ron Marks’ Young Offenders Bill. I think, of all the politicians in the House, this guy probably offends me the most.

  3. Billy the Double 143

    Thanx gruela good piece at NRT

    Wil NZ First jerk the chain in order to push its vicious agenda

    NZF are not in the greatest position at the mo
    to jerk any chains i would have thought

  4. Billy 144

    With apologies to Robinsod..

    Billy the Double, I am your father.

    Which I s’pose makes TDS your, what, uncle? And Robinsod your grandfather? Should be a fun Christmas dinner.

  5. Gruela 145

    I like Winston as Foreign Minister a lot more than I thought I would. But he really has surrounded himself with some pups. Does anyone know if he’s going to be re-contesting Tauranga?

  6. Billy 146

    That is Winston’s least favourite question. He refuses to answer it.

  7. Billy the Double 147

    Billy
    Being Christmas Santa Claws will be there as well
    so just the two us then :-)

  8. Billy the Double 148

    or maybe three but and should invite Liz

  9. Billy 149

    Groan. Oh no, Billy the Double, are you Robinsod?

  10. Billy the Double 150

    No I’m just bad at maths

  11. Gruela 151

    (Deep breathes) Hiss…Hiss…Billy…I am your father…

    I would say Winston will be back. He’s too proud not to give it another go.

  12. redbus 152

    [quote="redbus"]Just trying something out. Ignore this comment.[/quote]

  13. Visitor 153

    A final attempt to ignore the drivel on this thread and give you the answer (bangs head on desk):

    http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/1271053

    Play the Video
    That is National
    That is John Key
    That is Coldplay
    That is Clocks

    End. Of. Story.

  14. Lampie 154

    Ummm vistor, ummm not a coldplay fan but ummm yeah thats it

  15. Billy the Double 155

    Hows your head ?

  16. Gruela 156

    Great post, Visitor, (from another planet, by any chance?)

  17. chance 157

    Visitor, if only this was a post and comments thread about the music at the National Party conference, then that would be the answer. The 10-second snippet on the clip does indeed sound like the Coldplay track. But this is about the John Key DVD, which has different music on it. The licensing of background music for conferences etc is completely different from the licensing of music for advertising. So what is your point?

  18. Billy the Double 158

    Start of with this Chris Martin one
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACkEM19FEho
    While i find the one where he has a go at currency
    traders

  19. The Prophet 159

    Sod – Are you really trying to claim you invented the phrase “double standard”?

    Please!

    Also hows that crew list for Johns dvd coming along? Your extensive contacts in the Film and Advertising industries should be coming in handy about now, shouldn’t they?

  20. redbus 160

    Also hows that crew list for Johns dvd coming along?
    - What difference does it make if you know their names? I don’t think it should be the job of The Standard to track down and publish their names. However, if you wish to view the crew, then merely take a look at the guerrilla footage of John Key at the Porirua market and count the number of people in Mr Key’s crew. This is proof as, through scenes in the ‘Amateur in New Zealand – Meet John Key‘ film, the Porirua market featured in a substantial portion of the film. ‘Extensive contacts’ are not needed, as only two organisations need to be consulted to find information on this film – The Nats, and Production TV. If you would like to consult the firm which created the bore-fest, then contact Production TV yourself. Try not to expect others to do everything for you.

  21. Billy the Double 161

    Sorry Radio head
    But doesn’t give currency traders a good look
    didn’t put this on his DVD
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgliD41XCDE

  22. Tane 162

    “Also hows that crew list for Johns dvd coming along?”

    What Redbus said. However, I can give you at least one name: Yvonne Mackay.

    Key used Production Shed TV to produce his DVD. They look like a pretty professional outfit, which kind of kills the ‘volunteers’ theory the right have been pushing on this site.

    http://productionshed.tv/

  23. The Double Standard 163

    So, it turns out that it definitely wasn’t Clocks

    “National Party campaign manager Jo de Joux said the music was composed by “an Auckland artist” and paid for by the production company which produced the DVD.”

    but that there might be issues with similarity

    “However, music lawyer Chris Hocquard said if it was similar enough that the public was confused into thinking it was Clocks, it could be in breach of copyright laws and the Fair Trading Act.”

    Hey, at least the Nats will probably get more views of the video with this, and I’m sure they have a few lawyers available.

    I’d be surprised if any further action is taken.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10479448

  24. Santi 164

    Lovely Tane: are you know a professional in the business of naming people? How principled although expected.

  25. Kent 165

    I’d be surprised if any further action is taken.

    Same. The chances of winning a suit do not stack up against the cost of the action. Chris Martin might look at the video and decide there is nothing politically distasteful about Key or what he represents. Both Key and Coldplay aim to gain from all this fuss.

  26. Robinsod 166

    Nice attempt at innoculation Boys – but the issue is not whether it’s clocks or not but whether they’re gonna get away with it. I guess my earlier comment (6:20pm) on this thread was right on the mark. I’m not so sure nothing will come of this, copyright infringment is a pretty hot issue right now and EMI will be aware that this is in the Weekend Herald – that’s the most read single edition of any paper in the country – I’m thinking they may have to take action just to keep face…

  27. The Double Standard 167

    It does make a confirmed lie of Tane’s post at the top – I guess he should update it…..

    I suppose it just proves the point that if you lie about something hard enough, you might get your story in the newspaper. I dunoo if thats a helpful lesson though.

  28. Robinsod 168

    Yeah DPFDblStdClaws – that’s right they’re all liars, the standard, the musicologists, the copyright laywers and the Herald – liars all of them. You’re the only honest man in this game. Grow up. Suck it up. I wonder how John’s feeling this morning.

    oh, and it’s slow news day and copyright issue’s are bread and butter for broadcast Jurno’s. Can’t wait for the HoS to come out too…

  29. Kent 169

    I’m thinking they may have to take action just to keep face.

    Sure turns this into one hell of an interesting DVD, I say. I wouldn’t discount a large dose of politics in Graeme Downe’s musico-analysis tho.

  30. Visitor 170

    National using Clocks at their August conference is absolutely relevant. It speaks to the essential issue: the timeline in the development of intellectual property.

    First, they intended to use ORIGINAL music.

    http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=107

    Then, they decided to use Clocks instead, at the conference.

    They liked it. So, for the DVD they then used a piece of music which is simply a direct rip-off of Clocks. Why?

    Because using Clocks would have cost money. So they pretend to use “original” music, because they couldn’t (wouldn’t) use the music they wanted. Therefore they got as close as they possibly could to the REAL original, while pretending that “their” music was itself original.

    The intellectual property came from Coldplay. National liked it. Instead of using it, they copied it.

    To say “it is not Coldplay” is like saying the fake Rolex “is not a Rolex”. It is correct. It is also theft.

  31. The Prophet 171

    I’ll ask again.

    Sod – Are you really trying to claim you invented the phrase “double standard”?

  32. Chris Martin 172

    Their wives met at yoga. Now Chris Martin plans to rock the vote for Cameron’s Tories
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1744447,00.html

    Capitcha : Traveled husband

  33. Robinsod 173

    Profit – as a play on the name of this website? Yes. So, back on topic – what do you think of National’s theft of intellectual property?

  34. thomas 174

    And from the rest of the article that david linked to

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10479448Dr

    Graeme Downes, the former Verlaines frontman who is now a musicology consultant at Otago University, said the music shared the same rumba beat, harmony and chords as Clocks.
    It also had a similar drum introduction, and the key was the same, “which draws even greater attention to the harmonic similarity”.

    “If I were approached by a lawyer to furnish a report for a prosecution of copyright infringement against the music on the DVD I would happily do so. If approached by a lawyer to furnish a report in its defence, I would decline.”

    captcha lines faded

  35. Visitor 175

    @ Chris Martin

    I suspect you already know, but … check the date and the by-line on that Cameron story!

    It was a good one though.

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