Comments on: Congratulations Maori Party http://thestandard.org.nz/congratulations-maori-party/ The New Zealand labour movement used to have its own newspaper. A group of us thought that now might be a good time for it to be digitally reborn: The Standard v2.0 - now in a new format The Standard v3.0 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:07:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: BLiP http://thestandard.org.nz/congratulations-maori-party/comment-page-1/#comment-157047 BLiP Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:00:02 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=19447#comment-157047 It seems almost as if Science is being dumbed down in New Zealand. The public relations department made short work of Dr Salinger. Education funds by the tens of millions are being used to develop property for businesses to lease back in about a hundred years. Food Safety is a big worry. Actually, any sort of public science seems unavailable, unreliable, and inconsistent. How long have fish, dogs, and dolphins been dying on Auckland's foreshore and what is causing it? And what's with that $14 million "weather computer" ? Anyone had a blood test lately? Welcome to National Ltd McScience It seems almost as if Science is being dumbed down in New Zealand. The public relations department made short work of Dr Salinger. Education funds by the tens of millions are being used to develop property for businesses to lease back in about a hundred years. Food Safety is a big worry. Actually, any sort of public science seems unavailable, unreliable, and inconsistent. How long have fish, dogs, and dolphins been dying on Auckland’s foreshore and what is causing it? And what’s with that $14 million “weather computer” ? Anyone had a blood test lately?

Welcome to National Ltd McScience

]]> By: Tigger http://thestandard.org.nz/congratulations-maori-party/comment-page-1/#comment-156961 Tigger Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:44:12 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=19447#comment-156961 Ah, but if only the Maori Party knew what they stood for... Ah, but if only the Maori Party knew what they stood for…

]]> By: Pascal's bookie http://thestandard.org.nz/congratulations-maori-party/comment-page-1/#comment-156955 Pascal's bookie Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:09:31 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=19447#comment-156955 <a href='http://www.newshoggers.com/blog/2009/08/passing-gas-or-arctic-methane-plumes.html' rel="nofollow">Item:</a> <blockquote> "The permafrost now has small holes. We have found elevated levels of methane above the water surface and even more in the water just below. It is obvious that the source is the seabed,' Oerjan Gustafsson, the Swedish leader of the International Siberian Shelf Study, told the newspaper. </blockquote> Don't worry though Madeleine, it's probably just whales farting or something. "science" pffft. Item:

“The permafrost now has small holes. We have found elevated levels of methane above the water surface and even more in the water just below. It is obvious that the source is the seabed,’ Oerjan Gustafsson, the Swedish leader of the International Siberian Shelf Study, told the newspaper.

Don’t worry though Madeleine, it’s probably just whales farting or something.

“science”

pffft.

]]> By: Anne http://thestandard.org.nz/congratulations-maori-party/comment-page-1/#comment-156951 Anne Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:46:35 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=19447#comment-156951 Nope. Madeleine has no scientific qualifications. Her choice of words gives that one away. She listens to Climate Change Denier supremo, Leighton Smith? Nope. Madeleine has no scientific qualifications. Her choice of words gives that one away. She listens to Climate Change Denier supremo, Leighton Smith?

]]> By: mickysavage http://thestandard.org.nz/congratulations-maori-party/comment-page-1/#comment-156931 mickysavage Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:59:12 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=19447#comment-156931 Prey tell Madeleine. What are your qualifications? PHD in Climate Science? Masters in meterology? What qualifications do you have which allow you to promounce with such certainty on something as compled as climate change science? I hope you are right. If you are wrong and the earth goes to hell can we expect an apology? Prey tell Madeleine. What are your qualifications? PHD in Climate Science? Masters in meterology? What qualifications do you have which allow you to promounce with such certainty on something as compled as climate change science?

I hope you are right.

If you are wrong and the earth goes to hell can we expect an apology?

]]> By: Madeleine http://thestandard.org.nz/congratulations-maori-party/comment-page-1/#comment-156926 Madeleine Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:58:11 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=19447#comment-156926 I hope that the deal went "we'll help you turn a blind eye to climate change, if you promise us a better deal on the foreshore and seabed.' Climate change is a money grabbing crock of rubbish whereas the denial of due process caused by the foreshore and seabed act needs to be righted. The Maori Party should focus on what they stood for and leave the junk science to the greens. I hope that the deal went “we’ll help you turn a blind eye to climate change, if you promise us a better deal on the foreshore and seabed.’ Climate change is a money grabbing crock of rubbish whereas the denial of due process caused by the foreshore and seabed act needs to be righted.

The Maori Party should focus on what they stood for and leave the junk science to the greens.

]]> By: Madeleine http://thestandard.org.nz/congratulations-maori-party/comment-page-1/#comment-156925 Madeleine Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:57:30 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=19447#comment-156925 I hope that the deal went "we'll help you turn a blind eye to climate change, if you promise us a better deal on the foreshore and seabed." Climate change is a money grabbing crock of rubbish whereas the denial of due process caused by the foreshore and seabed act needs to be righted. The Maori Party should focus on what they stood for and leave the junk science to the greens. I hope that the deal went “we’ll help you turn a blind eye to climate change, if you promise us a better deal on the foreshore and seabed.” Climate change is a money grabbing crock of rubbish whereas the denial of due process caused by the foreshore and seabed act needs to be righted.

The Maori Party should focus on what they stood for and leave the junk science to the greens.

]]> By: ETS report: wishy-washy and a waste of time — Hot Topic http://thestandard.org.nz/congratulations-maori-party/comment-page-1/#comment-156924 ETS report: wishy-washy and a waste of time — Hot Topic Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:51:56 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=19447#comment-156924 [...] Turn provides a typically trenchant overview here, The Standard comments on the report and the Maori Party position, while David Farrar provides a National Party take [...] [...] Turn provides a typically trenchant overview here, The Standard comments on the report and the Maori Party position, while David Farrar provides a National Party take [...]

]]> By: Ianmac http://thestandard.org.nz/congratulations-maori-party/comment-page-1/#comment-156918 Ianmac Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:56:46 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=19447#comment-156918 It seems a bit like altering your test paper after it was written and time up. Worse if pressure brought to bear to change your paper- isn't it? It seems a bit like altering your test paper after it was written and time up. Worse if pressure brought to bear to change your paper- isn’t it?

]]> By: Zetetic http://thestandard.org.nz/congratulations-maori-party/comment-page-1/#comment-156900 Zetetic Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:34:23 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=19447#comment-156900 well, Katene admits they were prepared to hide their real views to keep National happy. It's hardly conspiracy theory. and has the ETS actually been delayed? I mean it passed last year, and they haven't passed a law suspending it have they? well, Katene admits they were prepared to hide their real views to keep National happy. It’s hardly conspiracy theory.

and has the ETS actually been delayed? I mean it passed last year, and they haven’t passed a law suspending it have they?

]]> By: Zetetic http://thestandard.org.nz/congratulations-maori-party/comment-page-1/#comment-156897 Zetetic Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:30:12 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=19447#comment-156897 I don't reckon bro. I mean honestly, it's great that they believe these things. It's great they can make such strong statements on the environment. But they tried to suppress those opinions. In my mind, it's worse that they clearly have these strong views and were willing to sell them out just to keep the Nats happy, especially as the Nats had just screwed them over and are bound to screw them on the f&s as well. I don’t reckon bro.

I mean honestly, it’s great that they believe these things. It’s great they can make such strong statements on the environment. But they tried to suppress those opinions. In my mind, it’s worse that they clearly have these strong views and were willing to sell them out just to keep the Nats happy, especially as the Nats had just screwed them over and are bound to screw them on the f&s as well.

]]> By: outofbed http://thestandard.org.nz/congratulations-maori-party/comment-page-1/#comment-156895 outofbed Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:26:59 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=19447#comment-156895 I agree with the Irish one. Katene comes across as a bit of a political novice I think more cock up then conspiracy In the end all that seems to have happened, is that act has delayed the original ETS bill They really are not very nice people I agree with the Irish one.

Katene comes across as a bit of a political novice
I think more cock up then conspiracy

In the end all that seems to have happened,
is that act has delayed the original ETS bill

They really are not very nice people

]]> By: IrishBill http://thestandard.org.nz/congratulations-maori-party/comment-page-1/#comment-156892 IrishBill Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:19:30 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=19447#comment-156892 I think you're being too hard on the Maori party. I think you’re being too hard on the Maori party.

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