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“Conservation” Minister

Written By: - Date published: 8:40 am, December 3rd, 2011 - 103 comments
Categories: climate change, Conservation, Mining, national - Tags: , , ,

Forest and Bird is pressing strongly on the issue that may soon turn in to Mining March II.  From The Herald yesterday:

Minister gave word on coalmine, say lobbyists

Pressure is mounting on Conservation Minister Kate Wilkinson for allegedly breaking her word that the public would get a say on development of a huge open-cast coal mine.

Ms Wilkinson initially gave an undertaking to consult the public on significant mining applications in July last year when stiff public opposition forced her and Energy and Resources Minister Gerry Brownlee to backtrack on plans to open up Schedule Four conservation land to mining.

Environmental advocacy group Forest & Bird says she also this year gave a specific undertaking that the public would be consulted over Australian company Bathurst Resources’ application for access for an open- cast mine on conservation land at Denniston Plateau north of Westport. But this week she sent Forest & Bird a letter saying that would not happen. …

“Thousands of New Zealanders marched down Queen St because they were concerned about mining on conservation land and we believed the Government had taken on the message that the public wanted conservation land to be protected from mining. “We think it’s disappointing for all New Zealanders who marched to have this decision made just days after the election.” But through a spokesman, Ms Wilkinson denied making that undertaking to Forest & Bird. …

“It would be the second largest open-cast mine in the country and that’s just stage one. They have made no secret about the fact that their intention is to expand from that first stage into an operation that takes over pretty much the entirety of the Denniston Plateau and at that point it’s without doubt New Zealand’s largest coalmine.”

Now correct me if I’m wrong here, but isn’t it the job of a “Conservation” Minister to, you know, conserve? Instead of leading the mining charge? Ramping up a new and bigger than ever coalmine is a conservation crime. And that’s just here in NZ, never mind the sheer stupidity of mining coal that so significantly fuels carbon emissions. Anyone up for another march?

103 comments on ““Conservation” Minister”

  1. anne 1

    Kate Wilkinson is a ‘yes,your honor’ to key and his crew,so she is following ‘dear leader’
    I agree the only thing that nz’ers can do now with the consevartion land is to ‘march’ also
    the deep sea drilling that key and co have signed up to,undercover of course,that also must be
    protested by a ‘march’
    There is no other way,key and the national party consider that the land of the long white cloud
    is theirs to pilfer and pillage,also protests against asset sales must happen also.
    48% does not say,go ahead,do what you like!
    The election may be all but over,but the fight is just beginning if Key and his co-horts remain in control.

    • seeker 1.1

      Totally agree Anne. What about petitioning for a referendum? Is this an extra way to go to add to the swell of disapproval at this barbaric government’s actions against our land and precious assets? How does one set about this or are they already set up? Does anyone know?

  2. vto 2

    You should prepare for another march because there aint no doubt that these extremists will keep on mining and damming and dumping their shit in the rivers until it is all gone. And they all know that this term will be the last chance for a long long time, perhaps a lifetime or more, to get in.

  3. RedLogix 3

    Waiting one day until after the election to announce the Stockton plateau decision is sordid and vile. At one level I knew that I couldn’t expect any better from National; but to have this arrogant betrayal cynically shoved down my gob like this really fucks me off. Big time.

    While my interest in politics is probably for the most part fairly abstracted… when it comes to the Conservation estate I get visceral.

  4. Mark 4

    We, as caretakers of this country for future generations, cannot allow this government to destroy it. We need demonstrations in every town & city..

    • mik e 4.1

      Old lizard eyes Smith shifty as a lizards eyes no insult meant to poor old lizards Key is to scared to let him on TV because he looks like he behaves

    • anne 4.2

      The green party need to be heavily involved here and co-ordinate a march,something that they are brilliant at,the march in the photo of this column shows what a march should look like,a replica of that is needed,the petition as well,the people of nz should take their power back
      when attacks on our land and the people are imminent,key and co,pander to the
      money traders such as goldman sachs and this should be stopped,goldman sachs are heavily inoved in our assets sales,i suspect that the ‘partial sale’ idea was to soften up objection to it
      and is not the full story, once key is on a roll who knows what will be next.

    • Reality Bytes 4.3

      Hear hear. And they did take notice and change tack last time when Queen Street was swamped with all those concerned citizens. Even arrogant politicians take notice at those sort of numbers, including all those trying to get there but had transport difficulties or for whom it was impractical.

      It’s a great way to steer our government over serious issues outside of elections, and when our government is too arrogant to have referendums over things many of us are passionate about.

      If there were similar protests over Asset sales, or Deep sea drilling (etc) I recon National would back down pretty fast.

  5. seeker 5

    By the time I ( and countless others I imagine) get around to being able to visit special places like the Denniston Plateau, they won’t be there, if this pillaging and barbaric government gets it’s reckless way. They must be stopped.

  6. Janice 6

    These assets (both power co’s and conservation estate) were probably put up for collateral to borrow the money to give themselves and their rich mates’ tax cuts. So TINA.

  7. Craig Glen Eden 7

    Time to March and make last time look like small fry.

  8. Dr Terry Creagh 8

    The Greens really mean to fight this dread move. We all need to make our voices heard now. Nothing could make clearer the arrogance of this government. I have written to Kate Wilkinson with my very strong protest, but she appears to reply through “spokespersons”, I have thus far to hear from her in person. The next march (marches?) will want to be double the size of the last.

    • Colonial Viper 8.1

      this is a timely reminder to all Green members how incompatible National is with their values, despite protestations of being “Blue-Green”.

    • Reality Bytes 8.2

      Kate Wilkinson’s job description is to provide PR services for the Crown Mineral Estate. That’s all.

  9. randal 9

    fair is foul and foul is fair.
    these guys have no pricinciples and no idea about truth.
    they only there to line their own pockets so they can buy stuff and lord it over the rest and everything but everything must go intheir quest of re-making the wolrd to fit themselves.
    they are like pigs but no one ever cleans out the sty.

  10. Sanctuary 10

    Hey – we’ve got a defense minister when we are actively fighting as part of an imperialist occupation force in a landlocked country in central Asia, so what’s in a name?

  11. Nick C 11

    I dont know much about this particular case, but… http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/03/mining_under_labour.html

    • Colonial Viper 11.1

      Put it this way, the main issue for me is that National made this and waited until after the election to release it. Cynical and manipulative.

      • Nick C 11.1.1

        Fair enough, although I would note she denies ever having made such a promise.

        GWH: Sure, but they also did approve mining operations. I have seen no evidence that the quantity or scale of new mining operations has actually increased with National in Government, it just seems like environmental groups have decided to make a bigger fuss.

    • ghostwhowalksnz 11.2

      Fancy that you just happened to find an authoritive source quoting Jerry Brownlee and highlighted on Farragoblog.
      The clincher is Farrars trademark ‘ Big Lie’
      That is an average of one permit every fortnight was issued under Labour for mining on conservation land
      When it was looked into, they found these ‘prospecting’ ( not mining) often involved Tourist operations which were at the level of fossicking in river beds

    • RedLogix 11.3

      So what Nick. No doubt if you go back far enough you can point out examples of anything done, under any govt, to suit your argument.

      But what happened in the past in never complete or sufficient justification for continuing to do the same in the future.

  12. Deuto 12

    Below is the link to the Forest and Bird petition to save the Denniston Plateau from open cast mining that Jackal posted in Open Mike on 30 November at 8.1 for those wanting to support it.

    http://www.forestandbird.org.nz/what-we-do/campaigns/save-the-denniston-plateauours-not-mine/save-the-denniston-plateau-online-petit

    Hope the link t works if not, I will try reposting it.

  13. mac1 13

    I sometimes think that there are some fundamentalists in Government who believe in the End Times or who are influenced by those who secretly believe in them. Like some Secretary for the Environment in the USA under President Reagan who wanted to plunder the National Parks there since the End of the World was Nigh, (in the next twenty years he said then, so he must be feeling just a wee bit foolish right now- or dead), and like the local Libertarian candidate during the election who at a meeting went on about man’s biblical right to have dominion over the earth, including the right to …. yep you guessed it….. mine, mill and otherwise ‘manage’ the earth’s resources.

    There is the same self-serving thinking in the case of End-timers who want the world to end in their life-time for obscure psychological reasons, and in those who say that we must mine, mill and irrigate farms to the detriment of our lives, landscapes, forests, rivers and waterways.

    The times demand it, they say. Jobs, they cry. It’s going out to sea and is being wasted, they chorus.

    When all behind it is greed, pathology and power. If the mines, forests, rivers and waterways were all owned by the people then private business wouldn’t be so profit and greed driven, would they? But hang on, don’t we own them already?

    We, the people, have to have our say in this.

    • Afewknowthetruth 13.1

      mac 1

      Nice rant. I’ve often wondered the same, i.e. whether we are governed by ‘reptiles’ who want to see the world destroyed in their own lifetimes.

      I now conclude what we are talking about is the fundamental nature of evil. We are governed by those who are quite content to see the world destroyed in order that they can have more money, more power, more worldly possessions etc. Their minds have been taken over by some kind of evil.

      What is really interesting is that so much of what we are witnessing in modern societies does correspond with ‘end times’. i.e. materialism, selfishness, greed, the pursuit of extreme hedonism etc.

      • mike 13.1.1

        “I now conclude what we are talking about is the fundamental nature of evil. We are governed by those who are quite content to see the world destroyed in order that they can have more money, more power, more worldly possessions etc. Their minds have been taken over by some kind of evil.”

        I’m sure for many it’s purely a case of “power corrupts”, but what I want to get across is that psychopaths are highly skilled at climbing in politics and the corporate world. I honestly believe that this peice of information is a piece of the puzzle that is not properly understood, or is underestimated. You don’t need David Icke’s lizards to explain why certain politicians and extremely rich people are gleefully butt-f*cking the planet, you just need to understand that psychopaths are lying manipulators of an order people do not appreciate who are pathologically attracted to malevolent power over others. I see certain things being broadly ascribed to “greed” or “human nature” without the psychopath factor being taken into account.

        If power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, the psychopath actively and expertly corrupts, in the main part, just for fun. I urge people to have a look at some definitions of psychopathy. Once they have infiltrated a group, they will spread their disease like a cancer. Those around them will come to accept, admire, and adopt psychopathic thinking and selfish manipulative behaviours.

        • seeker 13.1.1.1

          Mike

          Powerful and insightful comment especially:

          ‘Once they have infiltrated a group, they will spread their disease like a cancer. Those around them will come to accept, admire, and adopt psychopathic thinking and selfish manipulative behaviours.’

          I believe it behoves all of us to be more discerning and to encourage our youth to be likewise …
          Wise discernment is the prime way to deflect the spread of their disease. Unfortunately I have seen many in the National party and the MSM become ‘infected’ and move to the ‘dark side’. Their behaviour,once quite reasonable, subtly changes until they are all chirrping blindly from the same tombstone. Horrible.
          I wonder who the carrier of the disease was and when it first started?

          • mike 13.1.1.1.1

            Whats worse, once the leadership is infected, the disease can spread to the population by osmosis. Greed is good, might is right, don’t love thy neighbour. They follow the example of their leader. Witness some of the small-minded and self-centred RWNJ arguments of some on this site. And try watching Fox news, America’s most popular ‘news’ network, for more than an hour without being shocked by the bigotry. (I was trying to watch it for a while to observe the madness, but eventually it actually began to make me feel nauseous.)

            “I believe it behoves all of us to be more discerning and to encourage our youth to be likewise…”

            Sadly I only see a dumbing down going on, and guess who that suits.

            Who was the carrier? I doubt there is just one… However I hear the disease is rife amongst bankers and traders. My prime suspect: John Key.

        • Frida 13.1.1.2

          Mike there’s definitely something in this. Not sure if it’s evil but more along the lines of what a Christian fundy once tried to argue to me when defending her nutty climate change denial stance. From memory it went something along the lines of ‘well the bible says the Earth’s resources are for mankind to use and when they run out it doesn’t matter anyway cos we are in the End Times and the good believers amongst us are going to a better place anyway.’

          Nutty but scary stuff. She wouldn’t listen to reason either.

          And with the Catholic Mafia on the Government Front Bench I wouldn’t be surprised if a similar view is held by them

          • Frida 13.1.1.2.1

            Sorry I was responding to mac1’s original comment if that wasn’t clear!!

          • Vicky32 13.1.1.2.2

            And with the Catholic Mafia on the Government Front Bench I wouldn’t be surprised if a similar view is held by them

            Not a chance! Catholics are, as I have tried to point out before, very different, and hold views 180º opposed to the ones you say your fundy acquaintance held.
            What the Nats did/will do is bead enough, without trying to drag in anti-religious bigotry, no matter how well it goes down with Standardistas… (Talk about swallowing dead rats – there are times I just have to endure the hysterical bigotry here, for the sake of the more nuanced views I want to read…)

            • Frida 13.1.1.2.2.1

              Sorry I generally try and ignore your bigoted postings so I had missed you defending the religious whack jobs previously

              But now I know you’re a god botherer it does explain a good deal about your offensive views on homosexuality and abortion so I will definitely ignore anything you have to say in future.

              And for the record I didn’t ‘make up’ what the Christian fundy told me as your post seems to imply. I was forced to stand there and listen to the deluded bronze age crap being spouted at me.

              Don’t bother replying, I won’t read it or respond to you. I have absolutely no time for religious nut jobs and am not afraid to say so.

              Over and out

              • felix

                Vick’s gonna call you a bigot now, cos if you don’t tolerate her homophobia and racism you’re practising religious oppression against her or some such bullshit.

                I’m glad the Christos I know aren’t like her.

              • Vicky32

                Sorry, Frida, I ought to ignore you, but it just isn’t in me to do so… I did not imply you ‘made up’ what the ‘fundy’ said – I’ve had ‘fundies’ say similar things to me! You chose to infer that, I wonder why? Did you in fact make it up and you feel guilty? ???
                I had simply wanted to point out that Catholics think differently from fundies, but you don’t want to hear it. Mental health issues much? You wanna kill babies so bad that you refuse to hear anyone who doesn’t believe in murder? If you have a job, I wonder how you manae to function – do you interrogate someone about their views on baby-killing before conversing with them? How does your boss feel about that, supposing she disagrees with you? It all could be very awkward…

  14. Afewknowthetruth 14

    Apart from the fact that everything connected with central and local government is Orwellian (war is peace, ignorance is strength, freedom is slavery) these days, people who are concerned about the future need to look in the mirror.

    Present living arrangements in NZ are entirely dependent on all the kinds of activities people profess to hate.

    On a typical day in NZ people drive to work, drive their children to school (or put them on a bus), drive to a supermarket, purchase food produced via induistrial agriculture (which is predicated abuse of animals and on the consumption of huge amounts of oil and natural gas), cook, wash and get entertained courtesy of fossil fuels.

    During their leisure time they drive to golf courses, tennis clubs, rugby games, netball matches, or just drive for something to do. Prior to Chistmas they buy a whole load of junk, mostly made in China these days, because it looks pretty (it’s the nature of humans). And the more affluent among us fly somewhere. Imports of cars, jetskis, electrical goods etc. are paid for via industrial agriculture and mining of natural resources.

    How many people who will be protesting against extreme looting of the planet we live on are very happy to get the short term benefits from less covert looting?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogo_(comic_strip)#.22We_have_met_the_enemy_and_he_is_us..22

    You can’t consume a planet and keep living on it. Or as Derrick Jensen put it, you can’t kill and planet and live on it too:

    http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2011/07/16/you-cant-kill-a-planet-and-live-on-it-too-interview-with-derrick-jensen/

    and

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MeiB1Q70k0

    At the moment about 0.1% of the populace seem to understand. (Okay, maybe 1%).

    Paradigm shift anyone?

    • Uturn 14.1

      1+

      Simply acknowledging this fact every time we spend money or use any resourse (no need to get fanatical or depressed about it – even though it is important for survival) will help highlight our position in a dynamic environment. We are an integral part of the system, neither several steps apart on safe ground or tourists.

  15. Alan 15

    Have you actually seen the Denniston plateau? It’s as near as we’ve got to a desert. Even pine trees won’t grow up there! Rare Snails my arse! Every time anyone wants to do something here, there’s ‘rare’ snails in the way – thousands of them.

    I voted for Damien btw, as any sane Coaster would, and we NEED the mining jobs.

    cheers

    • Afewknowthetruth 15.1

      Alan.

      Which part of rendering the Earth unihabitable for your children (or your neighbour’s if you don’t have any) do you not understand?

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cif-green/2009/nov/30/canada-tar-sands-copenhagen-climate-deal

      ( a little dated but the image says it all)

      • Alan 15.1.1

        This is not that sort of operation.

        We live in Greymouth and we had 9 children, (3 natural, 6 adopted). They’ve all grown and gone because there simply aren’t enough jobs here. Some may return one day, they’d like to, but I doubt it – the Coast’s biggest export has always been its young people.

        Mining makes a mess, but it doesn’t stay like that. Have a look at Goldsborough, Waiuta, Okarito, Charleston – all once big mining areas, (Charleston was bigger than Wellington!), and now you’ve got to look really hard to see where they were – and that is without the land-restoration that is required these days.

        cheers

        • Draco T Bastard 15.1.1.1

          Jobs aren’t the problem, distribution of the resources is. If we had a rational economy we probably wouldn’t need to dig up all that coal at all.

          We produce far more than what we need to maintain our society sustainably and keep everyone at a reasonable living standard.

          And here’s the big question: What do you do for jobs once all the coal is gone?

          • mac1 15.1.1.1.1

            “But when the job is o’er and my boat rots on the shore
            How will I feed my family when the companies move away?”

            “Men’o’Worth” – Archie Fisher

            Exactly.

    • mac1 15.2

      Have you actually seen the Denniston plateau?

      Yep!

      It’s as near as we’ve got to a desert.

      Yep! That’s why it’s important.

      Even pine trees won’t grow up there!

      There are other ways of defining utility or beauty!

      Rare Snails my arse! Every time anyone wants to do something here, there’s ‘rare’ snails in the way – thousands of them.

      Well reasoned.

      I voted for Damien btw,

      good for you

      as any sane Coaster would,

      there are other ways of defining sanity!

      and we NEED the mining jobs.

      Why does my mind flick immediately to the same argument when applied to slavery? Alan, there are other ways in which the Coast and Coasters can survive, and thrive.

      cheers

      And to you, cheers.

      • insider 15.2.1

        Mac

        Denniston is a near desert because people came and mined there 100 years ago and there have been regular burn offs. Not sure how you can claim it has a unique status because of that. Do industrial wastelands like Mapua or Waihi or have the same status?

        • mac1 15.2.1.1

          Insider, the landscape of New Zealand has a history of ‘burn-offs’ either naturally occurring or by human intervention. Other effects on the landscape come from weather, earthquakes, animals introduced or native, and human activity.

          So yes, although altered, landscapes can still be unique in terms of their flora, fauna, rock formation/s, natural beauty, location etc.

          Industrial wastelands or not- history has enough examples of what were industrial wastelands altered into something more appealing- but then the whole concept that you argue from is human-based, culturally based, based on notions of what is actually ‘wasteland’. The same that Alan above was arguing about deserts.

          Read “The Seven Pillars of Wisdom” and find out what deserts can actually be- homes, spiritual birthplaces etc. Where did Christ go when he wanted to pray?

          • insider 15.2.1.1.1

            This is not an ancient modified landscape with unique adaptations AFAIK, it is one modified in very recent memory. That’s why I don’t view it as having significant value, any more so than the hillside cleared of pine plantation, or the Stockton minescape a couple of kms up the road.

    • Afewknowthetruth 16.1

      chris

      What is that supposed to mean?

      You celebrate nature and are opposed to mining?

      Or you celebrate mining and look forward to nature being exterminated?

      • chris73 16.1.1

        Yes

      • felix 16.1.2

        It means he wants to support whatever National wants to do but can’t think of a way to actually argue in favour of it, so now he’ll bore everyone to distraction with meaningless gibberish and pretend he was just here for the lulz all along.

        Make a case, chris. Step up and tell us all why you support this move by the Nat govt.

        (cue “I have”, and “I never said I did”, and “you’re all too stupid to understaaaand my sophisticated style of debate”. Yawn.)

        • chris73 16.1.2.1

          Fine, I support mining and this endevor will create jobs in one of the most depressed areas of the country and I hope this time the govt won’t cave into a bunch of star-struck NIMBYs from Auckland

          • felix 16.1.2.1.1

            There you go, wasn’t too hard after all.

            Actual mining question aside, what do you reckon about the Nats waiting until the day after the election to break their promise?

            • chris73 16.1.2.1.1.1

              If they did, because lets face it forest and bird arn’t exactly neutral, its par for the course for any political party to breal promises

              Fortunately I agree with this course of action so I’m not fussed about it

              • mike

                That’s RWNJ arguments are reduced to – breaking promises is fine.

              • felix

                Err chris you must be thinking of a different F&B. They’re most definitely not a politically motivated organisation. You couldn’t be more wrong about that.

                Anyhoo, what if the govt promised to do something you did agree with (say, opening a new mine and giving you a payrise) and then the day after the election they reneged?

                Still not fussed?

                • chris73

                  Politicians break promises all the time, so I’d be blase about it (and depending on the promise broken would determine my vote at the next election)

              • crashcart

                You know what Chris that is some pretty good reasoning. Mining will create jobs in a depressed area. I have another good one. Northland has terrible unemployment and grows really good weed. Legalise cannbis to create jobs in North land. The country has huge demand for P. lets legalise that and create a massive industry and lower unemployment even further. After all your argument is that the ends justify the means.

  16. Tiger Mountain 17

    We have a minister of Labour too, who in reality is minister for capital as it is hands off all the way.
    Non intervention in disputes between workers and employers where some could be useful, but maximum intervention in changing the playing field to the detriment of workers-90 day Fire at Will, legislation under urgency that violates ILO freedom of association etc.

    More marches yes! Maybe some of the million that did not vote in the general election may care to participate too. People have to act, waiting for the next election is no longer an option.

    • Ianupnorth 17.1

      And as was pointed out by Annette king, we have a minister for racing, but not one for children – we care more for the TAB, equines and their owners/trainers than we do about those who will care for us in the future – go figure.

      • Nick C 17.1.1

        I find it bizzare that you judge what people care about more by what does and does not have a government department/minister dedicated to it.

        • Colonial Viper 17.1.1.1

          I find it bizarre that we have prioritised budgets for a Minister for Race Horses and not one for a Minister of Children.

          • Afewknowthetruth 17.1.1.1.1

            CV

            Don’t forget we had a minister for rugby (not sure if we still do, probably; it’s such a good rort, why cancel it?) and have a minister tourism.

            The prime concern of most government ministers is to ensure that fossil fuels are converted into CO2 as quickly as possible.

            We might as well call them all ‘ministers for fucking the future of young New Zealanders’.

            Unfortunately, the last Labour government was locked into much the same mindset.

            I recall talking to Harry Do-nothing (when he was associate minster for resources) about the need to keep fossil fuels in the ground and lead the way in decoupling from dependence on sequestered carbon if he wanted his children to have a future.

            A week or so later he signed a deal for overseas corporations to start drilling.

  17. Afewknowthetruth 18

    chris

    So you managed to blurt it out in the end. You are in favour of annihilating nature as it currently exists, and by inferrence you are in favour of humanty annihilating itself for ‘a few pieces of silver’ (just for your information, since you seem to be so very, very stupid, humanity cannot exist without the natural systems that make life life on Earth possible). Kill the planet we live on. Nice one!

    Just think, since you have a suicide wish, you could get on with if this afternoon and save us the bother of having to put up with your inane comments in the future.

    • chris73 18.1

      “You are in favour of annihilating nature as it currently exists, and by inferrence you are in favour of humanty annihilating itself for ‘a few pieces of silver’ (just for your information, since you seem to be so very, very stupid, humanity cannot exist without the natural systems that make life life on Earth possible). Kill the planet we live on. Nice one!”

      – Wow melodramatic much?

      “Just think, since you have a suicide wish, you could get on with if this afternoon and save us the bother of having to put up with your inane comments in the future.”

      – Hate speech from the left (are you a leftie or looney?) anyone surprised

      Instead of wishing people dead why not go outside and hug a tree? I think you might be suffering from oxygen deprivation

  18. Afewknowthetruth 19

    mike.

    I nearly missed your earlier comment.

    Yes, I agree with what you say about psychopaths. Selfish and greedy is a ‘nice’ way of saying it.

    I have put is slightly differently on many occasions, describing most of our so-called leaders as psychotic sociopaths (mentally ill and disconnected from reality, unable to form meaningful relationships with those around them and prone to antisocial behaviours).

    Needless to say, they take money from us (via taxes, rates, charges) and use the money to promote their dysfunctional policies and mislead society

    That is a kind of evil, is it not?

    • chris73 19.1

      So what would you class yourself? Because suggesting I should kill myself isn’t exactly normal behaviour (maybe it is where you come from I guess)

    • mike 19.2

      I didn’t mean I thought it not evil, I just think some people’s view of ‘human nature’ is skewed by the historical actions of psychopaths. I mean, I can’t help wondering how different our history would be if there were none. We might well have a different view of our own potential human failings of greed, meglomania, exploitation, war, etc.

      Are they evil? You are into interesting philosophical and even spiritual debate territory there! Dr Robert Hare, probably the foremost expert on psychopathy, says it’s actually quite difficult to call psychopathy a mental illness under any meaningful definition of mental illness. He says a biologist might dispassionately call it a valid and often effective adaptation to an organism’s environment, albeit a very selfish one. He even hints at calling them a different species!

      It is increasingly understood that they are very well adapted to the corporate and political worlds, and I’m interested that modern scientific understanding of psychopaths in society, i.e. not just the ones behind bars, is changing quite quickly. Especially in light of current events.

      Nice vid below by the way.

  19. Julia 20

    Afktt

    Having read your countless comments on peak oil, implosion of our systems, acid oceans etc, might I comment we heard you the first time?

    There appears to be a couple of dozen contributors to this site maybe there is a better more productive medium for your message?

    As a practical, sustainable, environmentally friendly option, have you considered sandwich boards?

    You could tramp up and down main streets, or stand on busy intersections, and get a wide audience for your assorted messages. Obvious key points such as THE END IS NIGH! or WE ARE DOOMED!, spring to mind as useful starting points. Old messages certainly, but everyone would get your drift.

    • Afewknowthetruth 20.1

      Julia.

      ‘might I comment we heard you the first time?’

      If only that were,/b> the case!

      Day afer day, week after week, month after month, I read articles posted for comment and responses that clearly indicate most people don’t get it. Most people don’t get it at all! They are either in total denial or think that greenwash ‘solutions’ proposed by the Green Party are going to save them. In both cases the main reason seems to be gross ignorance.

      Re: you suggestion; I learned my lesson after Auckland Police came up with trumpted-up charges, abused me and lied in court, as is usually the case when anyone overtly opposes the agenda of the empire. Never again, thanks. Anyway, people don’t respond to sandwich boards unless they are advertising free stuff or a discount sale.

      Just look at how ‘Occupiers’ have been treated by the vicious bastards that make up a lot of police forces around the world -beaten over the head, kicked in the face, torso or genitals, sprayed in the face with pepper spray, fired on with rubber bullets, locked in cells with no sanitation. If you want an insight into how ‘security’ forces deal with those who stand for truth and justice, try this:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYFw3O–2R0

      • Afewknowthetruth 20.1.1

        The comment editor shuts off too quickly for when systems siezes up.

      • Vicky32 20.1.2

        (‘might I comment we heard you the first time?’
        Yes, Julia! I am with you there… )
         
        Just look at how ‘Occupiers’ have been treated by the vicious bastards that make up a lot of police forces around the world -beaten over the head, kicked in the face, torso or genitals, sprayed in the face with pepper spray, fired on with rubber bullets, locked in cells with no sanitation. If you want an insight into how ‘security’ forces deal with those who stand for truth and justice, try this:
         

        I suspect Afttt, that you want to be a martyr… :D Sadly, I skim your posts, in the hope that you’ll actually have something new to say one day! Really, I am not 100% in sympathy with your views, maybe 50%, but you are in serious danger of alienating those who might potentially be your supporters.
        I have a horrid feeling that you won’t care, but would just say “They won’t listen to Me, they’ll suffer.. Hehehehe… “

  20. Afewknowthetruth 21

    alan

    Yes, nature has in the past managed to recover to some extent from many of the assaalts mankind made on it, but there is much unseen damage, e.g. elevated levels of mercury in fish which now so high it is dangerous to eat too much salmon (not that we can afford to). And humans have pushed nature to the brink of collapse.

    Are you really suggesting we should push nature beyond he brink of collapse?

    Your pro-mining argument fails to address the matters of abrupt climate change and acdification of the oceans, either of which is very likely to render much of the Earth uninhabitable in a matter of decades.

  21. Julia 22

    Actually I was being facetious AFKTW, perhaps because I can afford salmon, and ive got my fingers crossed the oil lasts long enough to keep my SLK Mercedes in petrol to the “end of times” lol

    Having said that, I admire your persistence and sincerity.

    And no, Im in no doubt as the function and purpose of state security systems. At the pointy end of the stick, as security official or a protester, one would be naiive to not know otherwise.

  22. Afewknowthetruth 23

    chris

    ‘Wow melodramatic much?’

    Try telling that to an inhabitant of Joplin, or New Orleans, or Texas, now into its 12th month of catastrophic drought:

    Or try telling the people in the Fukishima district who have had their lives destroyed by industrialism ‘Wow melodramatic much’.

    The wonderful irony that is that the US is fast ‘going under’ as a direct result of the culture of ‘greed is good’ and the denial of reality that sociopaths of ‘the right’ have fostered for such a long time.

    http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/

    What would I class myself as? Humanitarian -someone who wants to minimise the suffering to come.

    I would also class myself as saner than most people I communicate with, since I don’t want the natural systems that make life possible wrecked, whereas wrecking the habitability of the Earth doesn’t seem to bother them.

    I only suggested you ‘get it over with’ because you do have a death wish for coming generations.

    • chris73 23.1

      You can justify it all you want but you still sound like you have a screw loose. Personally speaking I think that you’re probably quite an insigificant person thats latched onto some “big” issue in an effort to make yourself feel important.

      Good luck with that

      • Afewknowthetruth 23.1.1

        chris

        ‘you still sound like you have a screw loose’

        That is pretty much what people said when Copernicus said that the Sun didn’t go round the Earth. A little later Galileo was persecuted for promoting the truth and forced to recant what he knew was true by ‘those who knew better’.

        ‘On the basis of these observational discoveries, Galileo began to teach the modified Copernican heliocentric model of the solar system as the correct one. He even used Kepler’s laws to calculate orbital parameters for the orbits of the satellites revolving around Jupiter. However, direct proof that Earth moves around the Sun was still lacking. Furthermore, the Catholic Church considered Galileo’s heliocentric theory to be heretical. It placed Copernicus’s book on its Index of Restricted Books and tried Galileo before the Inquisition. Galileo was forced to recant the heliocentric theory and was placed under house arrest for the last eight years of his life.’

        http://science.jrank.org/pages/3276/Heliocentric-Theory-triumph-heliocentric-theory.html

        I suggest you make a careful note of this ‘conversation’ and 3 years from now check who was closest to the truth (if you are still alive).

        As for the other portion of your comment, it’s not worth responding to.

        • chris73 23.1.1.1

          Thats impressive, I mean I think pretty highly of myself but to compare yourself to Copernicus and Galileo is really quite something.

          Grandiose delusions

          In colloquial usage, one who overestimates one’s own abilities, talents, stature or situation is sometimes said to have ‘delusions of grandeur’. This is generally due to excessive pride, rather than any actual delusions.

          Anyone else you want to compare yourself? I’m guessing you probably identify with Cassandra.

          • Galeandra 23.1.1.1.1

            Chris73 @ 16.1.2.1..
            ..
            ‘(and depending on the promise broken would determine my vote at the next election)’ ….
            so you might be old enough to vote next time then?

            If you and your mates from the young Nats want to hang around, do so by all means.
            But the smart alec stuff isn’t going to cut it, is it? A reasoned debate might help you or others learn something.

            I’m impressed that you obviously studied Classics and know all about Cassandra.
            Maybe you studied Hamlet,too? Because you’re acting like some of the youngsters Hamlet complained about, you know – ‘troops of children, little eyasses.’
            Do you fancy yourself as a bit of an eyass?

            • chris73 23.1.1.1.1.1

              Young Nats? I’m not entirely sure what you mean as I’m probably too old to be a member (I’ll give you hint, you can guess my age from my user name) and I’m not actually interested in joining any political party

              Maybe lay off the cooking sherry before posting?

      • gnomic 23.1.2

        C73. Perhaps you are an utterly insignificant person with nothing better to do than hang around this blog making snide remarks which add nothing useful to the discussion.

        At least AFKTT appears to be motivated by a genuine concern for the future of the Earth and its inhabitants, and has devoted a considerable amount of time and energy to making his views known.

        http://www.oilcrash.com/articles/moore_09.htm

        Care to outline your own noteworthy contributions to discussion on any topic of major social import?

  23. Afewknowthetruth 24

    chris.

    I know you have great difficulty understanding simple English but please, please do try to understand this.

    I have never compared myself to Copernicus or Galileo in intellect. All I have said is that people who put forward ideas that do not conform to mainstream thinking (or the thinking of the uninformed masses) are regarded as eccentric, crazy, a ‘screw loose’ or whatever else those who do not understand the issue like to come up with as insults.

    You repeatedly demonstrate the phenomenon.

    • fender 24.1

      +1

      7+3= whatever john key says it is

      • neoleftie 24.1.1

        from the comments, if true, chris73 has made over the last few months he is the following:
        swing voter.
        working class
        white mate
        born 1973
        and see things very much through the narrow lens of those factors / influencers

        BUT he come on here and comments and comments from a very working class centralist position. give him some credit for posting..after all we need a balance of opinions.

        • felix 24.1.1.1

          Yeah chris is alright. He can give as good as he gets and make a point when he wants to.

        • Afewknowthetruth 24.1.1.2

          neoleft.

          Probably true.

          Hence we can see why the semblance of democracy we have has failed. The uninformed far outnumber the informed.

          Cheaper beer, cheaper fuel, cheaper cars, more roads, more race tracks, plunder the Earth till there is nothing left.

        • Vicky32 24.1.1.3

          BUT he come (sic) on here and comments and comments from a very working class centralist position. give him some credit for posting..after all we need a balance of opinions

          Wow, neoleftie, elitist much? What’s wrong with being working class? I am. Frankly, middle-class innerleckshuals get right up my nose, even though some working-class people have called me an innerleckshual! :D As I have previously said, and my reward has been a shedload of misogynistic abuse – the Standard is a pretty conformist place…

  24. Frida 25

    Forest and Bird has good legal advisors right?

    Because it seems to me that if they have documentation or other proof whereby the Minister created an expectation that part of the process would involve public consultation and now she has one back on that ‘promise’, this is prima facie grounds for a judicial review challenge of the decision not to consult.

  25. Frida 26

    Sorry that should have read ‘gone back on that promise’. Can’t get used to typing on an iPad.

    While a court could not ORDER that consultation take place (because it cannot make such a mandatory order against the Crown) The remedy to such a successful challenge would be a declaration that the Minister must fulfill her promise to consult. There is a convention that the Government will comply with such declarations given in a court of law.

    • lprent 26.1

      You are not alone. Lyn reckons that it is quite good. I just think that her fingers are smaller and more precise than mine.

      I have to write a touchscreen keyboard in the next few weeks. Bit more complicated as it is a resistive screen rather than capacitive, and users may be wearing gloves

  26. Frida 27

    Yeah I must get a wireless keyboard although apparently they are quite draining on the battery. Damn these sturdy working class hands lol :)

    Of course, the corollary to what I’ve said above is that even if judicia review was successful, the Govt would probably just invoke its favourite constitutional tool and ram through rectifying legislation under urgency to the effect that no consultation required notwithstanding previous promises.

    Still worth a shot though I reckon. Would send a clear message, ie there are those amongst us who are not prepared to take this shit lying down.

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    It is incomprehensible that IRD and Corrections were not able to stop Phillip Smith from rorting the tax system out of $50,000 until it was too late, given that he was a notoriously manipulative prisoner stuck in jail, says Labour’s...
    Labour | 13-11
  • The Government has to listen to Olly
    When even hard boiled property investors like Olly Newland  say first home buyers have been shafted by Loan to Value Ratio lending restrictions, surely it is time for the Government to listen, says Labour's housing spokesperson Phil Twyford.  "Auckland landlord...
    Labour | 13-11
  • Key used GCSB for political ends prior to 2014 election
    New documents released to the Green Party show that Prime Minister John Key used New Zealand's intelligence services for the National Party's political ends a few days out from the 2014 election, the Green Party said today.Documents released to the...
    Greens | 13-11
  • Government not meeting its climate target
    The Government must front up to the fact that its own advisors are now saying that New Zealand is off target in any transition to a low carbon future, says Labour’s spokesperson on Climate Change Nanaia Mahuta.  “A briefing to...
    Labour | 12-11
  • Briefing reveals Defence facilities ‘increasingly unfit for purpose’
    The Defence Briefing to the Incoming Minister reveals a deteriorating state in Defence facilities that are no longer fit for purpose, says Labour’s Defence spokesperson Phil Goff.  “The briefing is heavily censored but still reveals that Defence camps, bases and...
    Labour | 12-11
  • New projections show New Zealand missing climate target
    Briefings to Incoming Ministers released today reveal the Government's climate policy is failing with projected emission more than double what is needed to meet National's 2050 target, the Green Party saidProjections released by the Ministry for the Environment, as part...
    Greens | 12-11
  • National’s highways far less efficient
    National’s new state highways have a far lower cost-benefit ratio than motorways built under the last Labour Government, making a mockery of the Government’s bluster that its road building will boost the economy, says Labour's Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “New...
    Labour | 12-11
  • Governor points finger at National on supply
    The Reserve Bank Governor has admitted he had to keep loan to value mortgage restrictions in place because the Government’s attempts to increase housing has fallen ‘a long way short’, says Labour's Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “The thousands of first...
    Labour | 12-11
  • Did Collins cover up Slater’s OIA requests?
    Disgraced former Cabinet Minister Judith Collins must explain why she appears to have tried to hide Official Information Act requests she fulfilled for Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater, Labour MP Megan Woods says. “New documents obtained by Labour show Judith...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Reserve Bank’s dairy warning must be heard
    The Reserve Bank’s warning that falling dairy prices are creating greater risks for the New Zealand economy must be taken seriously by Bill English and John Key, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “Dairy prices have nearly halved since February...
    Labour | 11-11
  • National’s housing failure keeps LVRs in place
    The Reserve Bank’s decision to leave loan-to-value ratio mortgage restrictions in place is further confirmation of National’s housing policy fiasco, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “The Reserve Bank would have lifted LVRs if they had seen any increase in...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Let’s see if it is plane sailing Mr Bridges
    Comments by Transport Minister Simon Bridges that Far North residents' anger over cutbacks to regional flights will be allayed by larger planes and cheaper fares out of Kerikeri, are just pure arrogance, says Labour’s Te Tai Tokerau MP Kelvin Davis....
    Labour | 11-11
  • Commerce Commission inquiry needed into building supplies monopoly
    The Commerce Commission must stop dragging the chain and urgently investigate the anti-competitive practices in the building industry that are driving up the cost of building materials, says Labour's Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Competition in the building materials market is...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Air New Zealand grounds Far North
    The announcement by Air New Zealand to close services from Kaitaia to Auckland will be an absolute disaster for the Far North, Labour MP for Te Tai Tokerau Kelvin Davis says.  “Air New Zealand is sending a signal to the...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Pulling West Coast flights a savage blow
    Air New Zealand’s decision to withdraw its Westport service is another kick in the guts for an already struggling community, West Coast-Tasman MP, Damien O’Connor says.   “Having been involved in the West Coast’s efforts to get Air Nelson to return...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Air NZ cuts economic lifelines to neglected regions
    Air New Zealand’s plans to cut its Eagle Air regional services to already struggling regions is a hammer blow to Westport, Whakatane and Kaitaia, says Labour's Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “The regions of New Zealand are being abandoned by this...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Christchurch on the rent rack
    A jump of 20 per cent in weekly rents in the past year is a disaster for Christchurch, says Associate Housing spokesperson Poto Williams. “The Trade Me Property Rental Price index has rightly described the city as being a ‘...
    Labour | 11-11
  • Past time to act on warnings about palliative care
    Health officials have been warning the Government about a critical shortage of palliative care specialists for years, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader and Health spokesperson Annette King says. A stocktake carried out for the Ministry of Health shows New Zealand’s end...
    Labour | 10-11
  • Report must spur Government into action
    The soaring cost of domestic violence and child abuse highlight the need for the Government to prioritise and act on the issue, says Labour's spokesperson for Social Development, Sue Moroney.“Findings from the Glenn Inquiry that show the problem is estimated...
    Labour | 10-11
  • Family safety paramount, then urgent review
    Corrections Minister Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga has some serious questions to answer over why a dangerous prison escapee, convicted of further crimes while in jail, managed to abscond while he was on approved temporary release, Labour’s Corrections spokesperson Jacinda Ardern says.“Phillip...
    Labour | 09-11
  • LVRs a failed experiment from Bill English
    Loan to value mortgage restrictions are a failed experiment from Bill English to tame Auckland house prices, that have caused collateral damage to first home buyers and other regions, says Labour's Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “The possible end of LVR...
    Labour | 09-11
  • Govt books getting worse as economy slows
    National’s economic credibility is under serious scrutiny with its search for surplus becoming harder due to an economy far too reliant on the dairy industry, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “National promised New Zealanders would get into surplus by...
    Labour | 06-11
  • Kiwis in pain because of Government underfunding
    New research showing one in three people needing elective surgery are being denied publicly-funded operations shows the Government must properly fund the health sector, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says. “For almost two years Labour has been warning about the...
    Labour | 06-11
  • National’s promised surplus looking doubtful
    Budget figures for the first quarter of the financial year released today by Treasury show the Government's goal of achieving a budget surplus is looking doubtful, the Green Party said today."National has staked its credibility on achieving a budget surplus...
    Greens | 06-11
  • Kevin Hague speaks on the Gambling Amendment Bill (No 3)
    I rise to give this speech on behalf of Denise Roche, who handles the gambling portfolio for the Green Party. This bill deals with class 4 gambling—pokies in pubs and clubs—and it is the result of changes that were suggested...
    Greens | 06-11
  • Kevin Hague speaks on the Health (Protection) Amendment Bill
    I would like to start off where the previous speaker left off, on the issue of balancing rights or balancing harms. All law is in some way a restriction of personal liberty. That is the point of law. When we...
    Greens | 06-11
  • Joyce backs away from yet another target
    Steven Joyce has backed away from two targets in two days, refusing to acknowledge that his Government has an unambitious aim to get unemployment down to 4 per cent in 11 years’ time, says Labour Associate Finance spokesperson David Clark....
    Labour | 06-11
  • Pacific peoples incomes and jobs falling under National
    The Minister of Pacific Peoples is attempting to bury the ugly facts of Pacific unemployment and income levels worsening since National took office in 2008, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson, Su’a William Sio. “If the Minister doesn’t acknowledge how bad...
    Labour | 06-11
  • The Block NZ doing a better job than Nick Smith
    Nick Smith should consider calling in producers of The Block NZ with participants in the TV series completing more houses in two seasons than the Government’s failed Special Housing Area policy, says Labour's Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “The Block NZ...
    Labour | 06-11
  • Meridian moves to kill competition from solar homes
    Big electricity companies are using their power to make it harder for families and businesses wanting to go solar and the National Government is doing nothing to help them, the Green Party said today. Meridian Energy announced today a 60-72...
    Greens | 06-11
  • Has John Key done all he could for Pike families?
    It will be forever on the conscience of John Key whether he did all he could to recover the remains of the 29 miners who died in Pike River, Labour’s MP for West Coast-Tasman Damien O’Connor says.  “The Prime Minister...
    Labour | 05-11
  • National further dashes hopes of new parents
    The National Government has once again shown its disdain for working parents by voting down proposals to extend paid parental leave, Labour MP Sue Moroney says.  “The Government vetoed an amended proposal that substantially reduced the cost of extending PPL...
    Labour | 05-11
  • Honouring the Ampatuan massacre victims as fight for justice goes on
    A grim reminder of the Maguindanao, or Ampatuan, massacre on 23 November 2014. Photo: DanRogayan A TOP Filipino investigative journalist will be speaking about the “worst attack” on journalists in history and her country’s culture of impunity in a keynote...
    The Daily Blog | 23-11
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – what are they afraid of: the erosion of democ...
    Today the Hamilton City Council has put on a big party to celebrate the 150th anniversary of European colonisation of the area.  There have been a series of events during the year to mark this event, including a civic ceremony. ...
    The Daily Blog | 22-11
  • #JohnKeyHistory
    John Key has done it again. This week our lovely Prime Minister has showed us how little he knows about the history of the country he is supposed to be running. Apparently “New Zealand was settled peacefully”. Was it really?...
    The Daily Blog | 22-11
  • G20 growth targets and growth model offer more problems than they solve
    At the recent G20 in Brisbane, member countries agreed to accelerate growth to an additional 2% on top of current trajectories. But ongoing public sector cuts, asset sales, and reducing workers’ rights indicate that at least part of the growth...
    The Daily Blog | 22-11
  • GUEST BLOG: Bill Courtney – Charter Schools: The Shroud of Secrecy Contin...
    The Ministry of Education yesterday released another batch of information relating to the five existing charter schools and the four new ones proposed for opening in 2015. As we have seen before, the release of such information, often requested under...
    The Daily Blog | 22-11
  • EXCLUSIVE: Campaign reflection, Laila Harré reaching out for radical minds
    Today I’ve announced that I will be stepping down from the Internet Party leadership in December. This will happen once options for the future have been developed for discussion and decision among members. My absolute focus in this election was...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • The Ebola crisis, capitalism and the Cuban medical revolution
    “Ebola emerged nearly 40 years ago. Why are clinicians still empty-handed, with no vaccines and no cure? Because Ebola has been, historically, geographically confined to poor African nations. The R&D incentive is virtually non-existent. A profit-driven industry does not invest...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • MEDIA WATCH: TVNZ Reveals Insane Deadlines For Māori and Pacific Island Pr...
    Last Tuesday, November 18th, TVNZ requested proposals from producers for the four Māori and Pacific Island programmes they will no longer be making in-house. Marae, Waka Huia, Fresh and Tagata Pasifika will keep their existing names, existing formats and existing...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • The Daily Blog Breakfast Club Ep. 1
    TDB Video, Live from Verona Cafe on K-Rd, Auckland – a weekly current affairs show with TDB Editor Martyn Bradbury. This week’s panel: Chris Trotter & Selwyn Manning.The issues: 1 – What now for the New Labour leader? 2 –...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • Performance-demonstration at Auckland’s High Court to demand justice for ...
    People outraged at the lack of justice in the so-called ‘Roast Busters’ case and 99% of other rape cases in this country are holding a visually powerful mass action at the Auckland High Court at 1 o’clock on Saturday. They...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • IES vote may weaken defense of public education
    PPTA announced today that secondary teachers have voted to include the IES (Investing in Education Success) as a variation to their collective employment agreement with the government. At one level it’s an understandable decision by PPTA members because through engaging in a consultation...
    The Daily Blog | 21-11
  • NZ History lesson on Planet Key – the lies white people tell themselves
    John Key’s bizarre claims about our ‘peaceful history’ comes across like the apartheid history of South Africa where white people discovered Africa first… New Zealand ‘settled peacefully’ – PM New Zealand was “settled peacefully” by the British, the prime minister...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • Universal Basic Income and Labour Policy
    On Radio New Zealand’s None-to-Noon on Wednesday (19 November), new Labour leader Andrew Little intimated that he would like to put Universal Basic Income (UBI) on his policy agenda (What policy changes will Andrew Little usher in?) Predictably Kathryn Ryan, despite being...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • The New Notes : They Ain’t Mint
    Hulk Queen Angry. Hulk Queen smash.   Yesterday, the Reserve Bank announced its new designs for our banknotes. Now, I’ve historically been pretty sketch about this entire process; variously feeling affronted that the government could find eighty million dollars to fund a...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • MSM under-mining of new Labour Leader already begun?
    . . It did not take long. In fact, on the same day that Andrew Little won the Labour leadership*, the first media reporter was already asking if he would be stepping down  if Labour failed to lift in the...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • GUEST BLOG: Simon Buckingham – invisible disability voices
    Today I am ranting. The Disability Advisory Group has been announced by Auckland Council. This is the body that represents the interests and views of people with disabilities in Auckland. Whilst I would not have applied this time as I...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Andrew Little
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Andrew Little...
    The Daily Blog | 20-11
  • Why labelling Little as a ‘Unionist’ is a joke and how he beats Key in ...
    The line being used to attack Andrew Little as a ‘Unionist’ is just an absurd joke, and it comes from people who clearly don’t understand the modern NZ Union movement. Andrew ran the EPM Bloody U, they are easily one...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • 5AA Australia – Labour’s New Leader + China’s President In New Zealan...
    Recorded on 20/11/14 – Captured Live on Ustream.tv. 5AA’s Peter Godfrey and Selwyn Manning.ISSUE ONE: The New Zealand Labour Party has elected its new leader, the vote going to a third round after no clear outright winner was found in...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • Did Roger Sutton think he was running the Rock Radio Station?
    Visible G-String Fridays? Full body hugs? Jokes about who you would and wouldn’t have sex with? Honey? Sweety? It’s like Roger thought he was running the Rock Radio Station, not a Government Public Service department set up to rebuild a...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
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    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • Amnesty International – The conversation that needs to be had with China
    Caption: Police officer watching Hong Kong pro-democracy march, 01 July 2014 © Amnesty International    Yesterday’s edition of The New Zealand Herald features an open letter to all New Zealander’s from Xi Jinping, President of the People’s Republic of China. Along...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • GUEST BLOG: Patrick O’Dea – “Liar”
    LIAR! ‘Privatised social housing to benefit tenants’ English “Housing Corp was a poor performer and about a third of its housing stock was the wrong size, in poor condition and in the wrong place. That stock was worth about $5...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • Too Close For Comfort: Reflections on Andrew Little’s narrow victory over...
    THE TRAGIC SCREENSHOT of “Gracinda” in defeat bears eloquent testimony to the bitter disappointment of the Grant Robertson-led faction of the Labour Party. And, yes, ‘Party’ is the right word. The Robertson machine has now extended its influence well beyond...
    The Daily Blog | 19-11
  • How to defeat child poverty
      How to defeat child poverty...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • Little’s Shadow Cabinet
    Now the horror of trying to pacify the factions begins. The only thing Little’s new shadow cabinet must do is create the pretence of unity. The reason voters didn’t flock to Labour wasn’t the bloody CGT or Superannuation, it was...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • A pilgrimage with my sister – Rethink the System
    We’ve both wanted to do a pilgrimage for many years. But, unlike many modern pilgrims, we wanted to be pilgirms in our own country and get closer to our communities, rather than seek greater distance from them. We are both...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • Lack of policy ambition is Andrew Little’s main problem
    I’ve met Andrew Little a few times and he’s a pleasant man who will make a reasonable job leading what the Labour Party has become in recent decades. He will preside over a much less divided caucus and will be...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • Journos, film makers, media freedom advocates join Asia-Pacific political j...
    A candlelight vigil for the 58 victims of the 2009 Maguindanao massacre – 32 of them media people. Still no justice for them today. Renowned investigative journalists, film makers, academics and media freedom campaigners from across the Asia-Pacific region will...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • And the new Labour Leader is ZZZZZZZZZZ
    The victory lap by Caucus over the members choice of Cunliffe has ended and the new leader of the Labour Party is Andrew Little. Yawn. The dullness and caution of the latest Leadership race will be served well by Andrew,...
    The Daily Blog | 18-11
  • Allow the Facts to Get in the Way of the Neolib Stories
    One of the weaknesses of the political left in New Zealand over the last 30 years has been to allow the neoliberal storytellers to get away with lots of fibs and half-fibs. On TVNZ’s Q+A on 16 November, in a...
    The Daily Blog | 17-11
  • Defending The Boomers: A Response to Chloe King
    THE BABY-BOOM GENERATION (49-68 year-olds) currently numbers just under a quarter of New Zealand’s population. Even so, there is a pervasive notion that the generation of New Zealanders born between the end of World War II and the mid-1960s exercises...
    The Daily Blog | 17-11
  • This weeks Waatea news column – Waitangi Tribunal ruling enshrines Treaty...
      This weeks Waatea news column – Waitangi Tribunal ruling enshrines Treaty as a living document...
    The Daily Blog | 16-11
  • Key now says SAS will be needed to protect ‘trainers’ behind the wire
    Well, well, well. What do we have here? Government could send SAS to Iraq New Zealand’s elite Special Air Service (SAS) could be deployed to Iraq to protect Kiwi troops sent to train local forces. Prime Minister John Key confirmed...
    The Daily Blog | 16-11
  • Do You Want to Build a Meth Lab? (Frozen x Breaking Bad Parody)
    Do You Want to Build a Meth Lab? (Frozen x Breaking Bad Parody)...
    The Daily Blog | 16-11
  • Soft soap for the rich – harsh taxes for the poor
    It’s no surprise to see New Zealand has one of the world’s lowest tax rates for the rich and the superrich. A survey by the global accounting network UHY shows New Zealand’s highest tax rates are lower than even Australia,...
    The Daily Blog | 16-11
  • Phillip Smith and the rehabilitation process
    The dominant media narrative in horrible murder cases is that the perpetrator is unlikely ever to be rehabilitated. When it appears the offender may get parole the media turns first to family members of the victim who commonly (and understandably)...
    The Daily Blog | 16-11
  • The Nation review: Finlayson’s terrifying definition of who is on terror ...
    Terrifying Nation today on TV3. Chris Finlayson is on justifying the Government’s Muslim fear mongering and extension of even more surveillance powers. It was jaw dropping. Finlayson says ‘alienated people with a chip on their shoulder’ is the threshold to get...
    The Daily Blog | 14-11
  • A brief word on The Block NZ
    Is it just me or did The Block manage to sum up everything that is wrong about our culture and economy? Fetishised property speculation as mass entertainment in a country of homelessness & poverty. I wonder if State House tenants...
    The Daily Blog | 14-11
  • Waitangi Tribunal ruling
    That spluttering choking sound of a thousand rednecks being informed Maori still have sovereignty is a hilarious cacophony of stupid… Crown still in charge: Minister Chris Finlayson on Waitangi Treaty ruling The Waitangi Tribunal’s finding that Maori chiefs who signed...
    The Daily Blog | 14-11
  • A brief word on Phillip Smith
    We can arrest student loan & fine defaulters at the airport – but not convicted child molesting killers? Before we ban manufactured ISIS ‘terrorists’ from having passports, how about we just manage to stop child molesting killers from fleeing first?...
    The Daily Blog | 14-11
  • Free Me From Religion
          The meeting begins – or at least it’s supposed to begin – but someone interrupts proceedings. She wants everyone to pray with their heads bowed while she can “thank our Father who art in Heaven.” I close...
    The Daily Blog | 14-11
  • Key capitulates on TPPA while big money NZ set up propaganda fund
    So Key has capitulated on the ‘gold standard’ of free trade deals… The primary objective for New Zealand at Apec was to see some urgency injected into the TPP talks and to keep leaders aiming for a high quality deal....
    The Daily Blog | 13-11
  • Why Phillip Smith is the least of our worries
    Well, it turns out Phillip Smith wasn’t half as clever as he thought he was, and he’s been arrested within a week. If the Prime Minister is through with making tasteless jokes, perhaps we can ramp down the media hysteria...
    The Daily Blog | 13-11
  • Constraining Credibility
      Most economists and members of the public – on both the right and the left – believe that economies are constrained by resource scarcity most of the time. In this view, economies are supply-constrained, and that the economic problem...
    The Daily Blog | 13-11
  • Migrant Labour, exploitation and free markets
    Once more we read about a horror story of virtual slavery for a migrant worker in a restaurant in Christchurch. The silver lining that in this case compensation should be paid is not assured. Often in situations like this the employer winds up...
    The Daily Blog | 13-11
  • On baby boomers who give my generation unhelpful advice: JUST DON’T
    One of my mum’s colleagues recently told her that there is no money in what her daughter was doing; volunteering at a women’s refuge and writing on politics. This guy, dispensing all his pearls of wisdom, told my mother that...
    The Daily Blog | 13-11
  • Morbid Symptoms: Can Labour Be Born Anew?
    THE CHAIRS in the final meeting venue have been stacked away. All that expensive signage, commissioned for the benefit of the television cameras, no longer has a purpose. For the second time in just 14 months, Labour’s Leadership Contest is...
    The Daily Blog | 12-11
  • What’s Small, White, and Having Trouble Attracting New People?
    If your answer was something intimately connected to the person of Peter Dunne … then you’d be right. Last night, P-Dunney decided to bring his comedy and/or hair stylings to the twitterverse; penning a potentially somewhat ill-advised tweet in which he compared...
    The Daily Blog | 12-11
  • LATE at the Auckland Museum review – Slacktivisim: Its not just for Slack...
    Monday night is my yoga night. I’m not really very good it, I don’t really have the bendy, but I made a New Years resolution. This Monday however, I decided to put the yoga on prone and attend a gig...
    The Daily Blog | 12-11
  • Domestic violence problem bigger than Sky Tower
    Domestic violence problem bigger than Sky Tower SKYCITY’s Sky Tower in Auckland will be lit up in white on Monday evening Nov 25th at 10pm, on the eve of White Ribbon Day. The anti-domestic violence network SAFTINET (Safer Auckland Families...
    Scoop politics | 23-11
  • State Services Commissioner ‘unfit for the job’ says Little
    State Services Commissioner ‘unfit for the job’ says Little The new Labour leader Andrew Little has called for the State Services Commissioner Iain Rennie to be stood down after his handling of the Roger Sutton sexual harassment case. "The idea...
    Scoop politics | 23-11
  • Patrick Gower interviews Laila Harre
    Patrick Gower interviews Laila Harre Headlines: Laila Harre to quit as Internet Party leader by Christmas when the party has completed its review, but would love to return to parliament Says party considering options for its future including winding...
    Scoop politics | 22-11
  • Lisa Owen interviews Labour leader Andrew Little
    Lisa Owen interviews Labour leader Andrew Little Headlines: Andrew Little says the shape of his front-bench for the 2017 election may not be clear until the end of next year Indicates next week’s appointments may be temporary: “So I may...
    Scoop politics | 22-11
  • Phillip John Smith – statement
    Police and the New Zealand Embassy in Brasilia are aware of a decision from the Brazil Federal Court requiring the deportation of Phillip Smith within 10 days. Further assessment is required to ensure there is a full understanding of this...
    Scoop politics | 22-11
  • Green’s ‘not speaking out about human rights abuses in China
    Right to Life challenges Russell Norman the co-leader of the Green Party to explain why, he was prepared to ask Prime Minister John Key to talk to Chinese President Xi Jinping about human rights abuses in countries bordering China but...
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • Goodfellow congratulates Key on IDU election
    Goodfellow congratulates Key on IDU election National Party President Peter Goodfellow has congratulated Prime Minister John Key on his election today as Chairman of the International Democrat Union (IDU)....
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • Taxpayers’ Union Congratulates PM on IDU Appointment
    The Taxpayers’ Union is today congratulating Rt. Hon. John Key on becoming the Chair of the International Democrat Union , as former Australian Prime Minister John Howard retires from the role after 12 years. Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director...
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • High demand for Consumer NZ’s “Do Not Knock” stickers
    Consumer NZ has distributed nearly 100,000 “Do Not Knock” stickers since the launch of its campaign to fight back against dodgy door-to-door sellers.The “Do Not Knock” campaign was launched on 3 November 2014. Free “Do Not Knock” stickers...
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • Phillip Smith decision still pending
    Detective Superintendent Mike Pannett is returning to Washington DC where he will continue to closely monitor a pending decision from the Brazilian authorities on the process to return Phillip Smith to New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • High Court demonstration to demand justice
    People outraged at the lack of justice in the so-called ‘Roast Busters’ case and 99% of other rape cases in this country are holding a visually powerful mass action at the Auckland High Court at 1 o’clock on Saturday. They...
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • NZ Society Wins Global Award For Fighting Animal Testing
    New Zealand banning animal testing of legal highs has been acknowledged with an award given in London. The New Zealand Anti-Vivisection Society (NZAVS) was awarded the 2014 LUSH Prize for lobbying against animal testing. The prize was given at the...
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • Poor govt advice to workers on petrol station drive-offs
    The New Zealand Council of Trade Unions has raised concerns with the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment ('MBIE') regarding their reported advice to workers about the petrol station drive away issue....
    Scoop politics | 21-11
  • New Ombudsman opinion
    The Ombudsman has published his opinion on a complaint concerning the Police refusal to release information about a charging decision....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Kindergarten support staff achieve pay rise in tough climate
    The valuable contribution of kindergarten support staff has been recognised with a pay increase, despite the significant funding cuts that the kindergarten associations are experiencing....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Democracy and Conservative Religion: The Case of Islam
    “Is Islam compatible with democracy?” is a frequently-asked question. Recent rethinking of secularism and democracy have opened up new possibilities to think about religion and democracy. This question is important particularly in the case...
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • NZ fiscal watchdog needed to guard the public purse
    New Zealand needs tighter fiscal rules and an independent watchdog to improve the quality of government spending and reduce the risk of a return to deficit spending as the country’s population ages, if not before....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • NZSMI disappointed ANZTPA proposal shelved
    November 20, 2014: Consumer healthcare products industry body, the New Zealand Self-Medication Industry Association (SMI) says it is disappointed Government has once again shelved plans to create one medicines regulatory agency for both New Zealand and Australia....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Democracy Action Welcomes Tauranga Vote
    Responding to Tauranga Council’s unanimous vote not to establish separate Council seats on the basis of ethnicity, Lee Short, Democracy Action founder says: “The establishment of a Maori ward would have damaged the relationship between Maori and...
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Employer caught abusing new ‘teabreaks law’
    Employer caught abusing new ‘teabreaks law’ to exploit workers The government passed the controversial ‘teabreaks’ legislation only a few weeks ago and already Unite Union has caught an employer using this law as an excuse for ill-treating their...
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • FGC response to Commerce Commission report
    The New Zealand Food & Grocery Council is not surprised by the Commerce Commission’s findings, given New Zealand’s current legal framework....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Bascand: Brighter Money
    Seeing people’s initial reactions to the new banknote designs is a heartening reminder of what an important role currency plays in our lives, and what a sense of pride and heritage our notes evoke....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • RBNZ releases Brighter Money designs
    New Zealand’s banknotes are getting brighter and better, with the Reserve Bank today unveiling more vibrant and secure banknote designs which will progressively enter circulation later next year....
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • 25 years of children’s rights
    UNICEF and OFC celebrate 25 years of children’s rights with Just Play Sports Days On Universal Children’s Day (20 November) and as part of the Oceania Football Confederation’s (OFC) inaugural President’s Cup, UNICEF will celebrate 25 years of children’s...
    Scoop politics | 20-11
  • Xiamen delegation to Wellington has business focus
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    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Warriors promote White Ribbon Day message
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    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Superannuitants to protest unethical investments
    A delegation of Auckland superannuitants will deliver a protest-card petition and protest letter to the New Zealand Super Fund this Thursday afternoon to call on the fund to divest from companies which support the Israeli occupation of Palestinian...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Manukau job cuts ‘running the place into the ground’
    Manukau Institute of Technology (MIT) confirmed to its staff yesterday that 54 jobs will go before Christmas....
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Newcore Looks Pretty Rotten for Ratepayers
    Responding to the NZ Herald report that the IT system commissioned by Auckland Council to consolidate the eight systems the Super City inherited from its precursor councils could be facing a budget blowout of $100 million, Taxpayers’ Union Spokesman Ben...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Accountability following quake response inquiry not achieved
    Lessons still need to be learned from the search and rescue efforts following the February 2011 earthquake in Christchurch, a leading New Zealand lawyer, Nigel Hampton QC, says....
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Our kids say: We are failing in our duty to protect them
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    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • PARS & Turuki Health Care collaborate on health and services
    Auckland-based PARS (People at Risk Solutions) have partnered with the Turuki Health Care Trust, to offer improved healthcare services to those in need. PARS works closely with former prisoners, providing mentoring, housing, and social services to ensure...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Children’s Plea
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    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Treasury off track in search for sound policies
    Treasury is unlikely to find the ideas it is looking for to improve outcomes for children while its primary driver is cost-cutting, says Child Poverty Action Group....
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Commission calls for answers on handling of CERA harassment
    EEO Commissioner Dr Jackie Blue is deeply concerned about the way in which the State Services Commission has handled sexual allegations made against CERA chief executive Roger Sutton this week and is calling for answers....
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Ashley Dwayne Guy v The Queen: Appeal Upheld
    The appellant, Mr Guy, was found guilty by a jury of a charge of sexual violation by unlawful sexual connection. After the verdict it was discovered that, by error, the jury had been provided in the jury room with two...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • Zonta Club to Take a Stand Against Gender-Based Violence
    During the 16 Days of Activism against Gender Violence (25 November – 10 December), the Zonta Club of Wellington, along with members of the local community, will join nearly 1,200 Zonta clubs in 67 countries for the Zonta Says NO...
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • New UNFPA report links progress and power to young people
    A UN report launched today calls for investment in young people as they are essential to social and economic progress....
    Scoop politics | 19-11
  • The Resignation with the Golden Handshake?
    Commenting on the settlement the State Services Commission has reached with former CERA CEO Roger Sutton, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director, Jordan Williams, says: "Only in the public sector do you receive a payout for ‘resigning’....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • NZ must not turn a blind eye to China’s human rights record
    Amnesty International is calling on New Zealand’s Prime Minister John Key to raise China’s shameful human rights record during President Xi Jinping’s visit to New Zealand this week....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • The Resignation with the Golden Handshake?
    Commenting on the settlement the State Services Commission has reached with former CERA CEO Roger Sutton, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director, Jordan Williams, says:...
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • Treasury’s covert & extremely odd welfare consultation
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    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • NZ invites Pacific peers to review development cooperation
    New Zealand has volunteered to be the first development partner in the Pacific region to undergo a review of its aid programme by Pacific island peers. The review will focus on New Zealand’s development cooperation and will give greater insight...
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • EPMU joins Pike River families to mark fourth anniversary
    Representatives of the Engineering, Printing and Manufacturing Union are proud to stand with the Pike River families to mark four years since 29 men lost their lives. “This is a particularly solemn day given the recent announcements of Solid Energy...
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • 2013 Assessment of New Zealand’s National Integrity Systems
    SPEAKER TUILOMA NERONI SLADE: Former Judge, International Criminal Court in the Hague, former legal counsel at the Commonwealth Secretariat, Secretary-General of the Pacific Islands Forum 2008-2014. Introduced by Helen Sutch, Victoria University Council,...
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • Green Party ignoring Waimea’s environmental benefits
    Green Party MP Catherine Delahunty has overlooked the environmental benefits the proposed Waimea Community Dam will bring the Tasman community, says IrrigationNZ Chairperson Nicky Hyslop....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • Women’s use of violence in violent relationships
    More than 80 percent of women who live with a physically violent partner will not initiate violence when they are not being hit, according to new research....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • Poor credit rating linked to poor cardiovascular health
    Poor credit rating linked to poor cardiovascular health A credit score doesn’t only boil down a person’s entire financial history to a single number and somehow predict their credit-worthiness, it might also be saying something about a person’s...
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • State Services Commissioner on Roger Sutton Investigation
    State Services Commissioner Iain Rennie today said the investigation into Roger Sutton’s conduct was robust. Roger Sutton chose to resign as Chief Executive of the Canterbury Earthquake Recovery Authority (CERA) yesterday....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
  • Predator Free NZ project welcomed
    Federated Farmers and the conservation organisation Forest & Bird are welcoming the Predator Free New Zealand initiative as an ambitious but achievable project that will have real benefits for conservation and the economy....
    Scoop politics | 18-11
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