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		<title>By: BLiP</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-125875</link>
		<dc:creator>BLiP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that Worth was described as &quot;Minister&quot; is the Indian&#039;s being polite!! Good grief, what a shining example of colonial patronising bollocks - &quot;the poor golly wogs got it wrong because they were trying to be nice&quot; - your attitude is so last century as to be insulting. 

Face it - Worth has been caught out seeking to benefit financially from his elected position, plus he&#039;s been caught out lying to the Prime Minister. 

How sad the right seek to defend Worth and his type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that Worth was described as &#8220;Minister&#8221; is the Indian&#8217;s being polite!! Good grief, what a shining example of colonial patronising bollocks &#8211; &#8220;the poor golly wogs got it wrong because they were trying to be nice&#8221; &#8211; your attitude is so last century as to be insulting. </p>
<p>Face it &#8211; Worth has been caught out seeking to benefit financially from his elected position, plus he&#8217;s been caught out lying to the Prime Minister. </p>
<p>How sad the right seek to defend Worth and his type.</p>
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		<title>By: BLiP</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-125873</link>
		<dc:creator>BLiP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps in your bully-boy world the presumption of innocence carries no weight. Happily this is not the case in the real world. 

Fuck off back to your sewer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps in your bully-boy world the presumption of innocence carries no weight. Happily this is not the case in the real world. </p>
<p>Fuck off back to your sewer.</p>
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		<title>By: BLiP</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-125869</link>
		<dc:creator>BLiP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see National has broken another election promise - this time in relation to Pay Centres - I guess in your sad world dishonesty doesn&#039;t equate to corruption??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see National has broken another election promise &#8211; this time in relation to Pay Centres &#8211; I guess in your sad world dishonesty doesn&#8217;t equate to corruption??</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal's bookie</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-125843</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal's bookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morning David. Have you fixed that abortion of a post where you claim (repeatedly in comments) that Goff was a liar for saying that if Worth was Labour party Minister he&#039;d have been gone? You left out the Labour bit didn&#039;t you david? Easily done seeing it was in the first para of the story you linked to. What&#039;s that para called again, oh yeah , the lede.

Hack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morning David. Have you fixed that abortion of a post where you claim (repeatedly in comments) that Goff was a liar for saying that if Worth was Labour party Minister he&#8217;d have been gone? You left out the Labour bit didn&#8217;t you david? Easily done seeing it was in the first para of the story you linked to. What&#8217;s that para called again, oh yeah , the lede.</p>
<p>Hack.</p>
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		<title>By: r0b</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-125839</link>
		<dc:creator>r0b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Due process also found that ACT breached the electoral finance rules.  Key and English still back Hide 100%.

&lt;i&gt; when it was obvious to anyone not retarded &lt;/i&gt;

Back to the sewer for you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Due process also found that ACT breached the electoral finance rules.  Key and English still back Hide 100%.</p>
<p><i> when it was obvious to anyone not retarded </i></p>
<p>Back to the sewer for you!</p>
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		<title>By: David Farrar</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-125837</link>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>due process found Peters in breach of the Register of Interests and ipso facto the Cabinet Manual. Clark and Goff still backed Peters 100% when it was obvious to anyone not retarded that Peters knew about the Glenn donation all along, and had lied for months on end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>due process found Peters in breach of the Register of Interests and ipso facto the Cabinet Manual. Clark and Goff still backed Peters 100% when it was obvious to anyone not retarded that Peters knew about the Glenn donation all along, and had lied for months on end.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-125822</link>
		<dc:creator>jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Total crock of sh1t, that comment, BLiP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Total crock of sh1t, that comment, BLiP.</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-125801</link>
		<dc:creator>Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tane
you talk some utter garbage at times! Like &quot; Richard Worth&#039;s private business dealings in India while he was acting as a Minister of the Crown&quot;.  He was acting as chairman of a trade association and used NO public funds.

An Indian newspaper did its homework, realised he was a Minister back in New Zealand, and used his highest title (Minister) in reporting on his visit.  In India this is called being polite. By taking its words in a KIWI context, instead of an Indian one, much mischief has been achieved.

How sad that this is the bast that can be achieved by the Centre Left as it looks for major discombooberations to latch the public&#039;s attention to!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tane<br />
you talk some utter garbage at times! Like &#8221; Richard Worth&#8217;s private business dealings in India while he was acting as a Minister of the Crown&#8221;.  He was acting as chairman of a trade association and used NO public funds.</p>
<p>An Indian newspaper did its homework, realised he was a Minister back in New Zealand, and used his highest title (Minister) in reporting on his visit.  In India this is called being polite. By taking its words in a KIWI context, instead of an Indian one, much mischief has been achieved.</p>
<p>How sad that this is the bast that can be achieved by the Centre Left as it looks for major discombooberations to latch the public&#8217;s attention to!</p>
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		<title>By: gingercrush</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-125696</link>
		<dc:creator>gingercrush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not above anything and I don&#039;t know why you make such a claim. What are the consequences? He fucks up again and he&#039;s out. Simple as that. Of course Helen Clark wouldn&#039;t even give Peters that till it was too late. That is why if you reprimand someone straight away. It actually works politically. If anything its you that exists on a holier than thou attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not above anything and I don&#8217;t know why you make such a claim. What are the consequences? He fucks up again and he&#8217;s out. Simple as that. Of course Helen Clark wouldn&#8217;t even give Peters that till it was too late. That is why if you reprimand someone straight away. It actually works politically. If anything its you that exists on a holier than thou attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal's bookie</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-125693</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal's bookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not about me or bloggers ginger. It&#039;s about Key. I&#039;m glad you seem to agree that all his talk about how his government would be one of probity was all just a bunch of lies. Just like people on the left were saying. Were you saying so then? It seems that the only one claiming to be above it all is you mate. As always, you just seem focussed on the day&#039;s horserace.

A reprimand is as weak as it gets. What are the consequences?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not about me or bloggers ginger. It&#8217;s about Key. I&#8217;m glad you seem to agree that all his talk about how his government would be one of probity was all just a bunch of lies. Just like people on the left were saying. Were you saying so then? It seems that the only one claiming to be above it all is you mate. As always, you just seem focussed on the day&#8217;s horserace.</p>
<p>A reprimand is as weak as it gets. What are the consequences?</p>
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		<title>By: gingercrush</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-125687</link>
		<dc:creator>gingercrush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s fine and all PB. In an ideal world we should all think like that. But the idea that we who reply at blogs and bloggers themselves are somehow above things is blatantly absurd. How many times do right wing bloggers and those who identify right-wing accuse Labour of being corrupt and basically lying. Then how many times does the left themselves do that but this time against the right and National. So either we&#039;re all hypocrites and very partisan or we aren&#039;t. And of course the idea that a reprimand by itself is nothing.But it does actually mean something in political terms.

----

And as for your point about National and them applying the highest standards. I don&#039;t remember National saying that and I never expected it either. Labour will provide the questioning and will certainly test the government. And if you&#039;re a voter of the left persuasion. This is the first time you actually have something to nail the government with. But when Goff goes on National Radio as he did five minutes ago and act all above everything. That will never work. Especially not when Sean Plunket smacks him down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s fine and all PB. In an ideal world we should all think like that. But the idea that we who reply at blogs and bloggers themselves are somehow above things is blatantly absurd. How many times do right wing bloggers and those who identify right-wing accuse Labour of being corrupt and basically lying. Then how many times does the left themselves do that but this time against the right and National. So either we&#8217;re all hypocrites and very partisan or we aren&#8217;t. And of course the idea that a reprimand by itself is nothing.But it does actually mean something in political terms.</p>
<p>&#8212;-</p>
<p>And as for your point about National and them applying the highest standards. I don&#8217;t remember National saying that and I never expected it either. Labour will provide the questioning and will certainly test the government. And if you&#8217;re a voter of the left persuasion. This is the first time you actually have something to nail the government with. But when Goff goes on National Radio as he did five minutes ago and act all above everything. That will never work. Especially not when Sean Plunket smacks him down.</p>
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		<title>By: spot</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-125683</link>
		<dc:creator>spot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will key feel the pressure to offer up a scalp, probably, will he, I suspect not.  But if needs must then hardly a talent loss.

Be interesting to see if Lab feel they can go hard at this one, it being largely &quot;outside&quot; of matters policy, abut &quot;inside&quot; claims to fresh approach and credibility.

I think King, or the like, should go them and see where it ends up.

At the end of the day - Worth is, was, and always has been veeeeeery backbench material.  Maybe time for him to work on another Phd.

Keep an eye out for the &quot;creating jobs for NZers in this recession&quot; line that will probably get trotted out as part mitgation for Worth&#039;s actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will key feel the pressure to offer up a scalp, probably, will he, I suspect not.  But if needs must then hardly a talent loss.</p>
<p>Be interesting to see if Lab feel they can go hard at this one, it being largely &#8220;outside&#8221; of matters policy, abut &#8220;inside&#8221; claims to fresh approach and credibility.</p>
<p>I think King, or the like, should go them and see where it ends up.</p>
<p>At the end of the day &#8211; Worth is, was, and always has been veeeeeery backbench material.  Maybe time for him to work on another Phd.</p>
<p>Keep an eye out for the &#8220;creating jobs for NZers in this recession&#8221; line that will probably get trotted out as part mitgation for Worth&#8217;s actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal's bookie</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-125682</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal's bookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You can apply your magical rose-tinted glasses and pretend you live in an ideal world.Or you can think in proper political terms. This is not a sackable offense. It will never be a sackable offense. 

Key already reprimanded him.That is enough
&lt;/i&gt;

Arrogant much? A reprimand is nothing. It&#039;s a telling off without consequence, done to make it look like something has been done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You can apply your magical rose-tinted glasses and pretend you live in an ideal world.Or you can think in proper political terms. This is not a sackable offense. It will never be a sackable offense. </p>
<p>Key already reprimanded him.That is enough<br />
</i></p>
<p>Arrogant much? A reprimand is nothing. It&#8217;s a telling off without consequence, done to make it look like something has been done.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal's bookie</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-125681</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal's bookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it&#039;s Labour did it too then, (as predicted in my last two para&#039;s) and some weird shit about Obama. Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it&#8217;s Labour did it too then, (as predicted in my last two para&#8217;s) and some weird shit about Obama. Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: SHG</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-125679</link>
		<dc:creator>SHG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the &quot;Worth&#039;s story unravels&quot; article gone?
&lt;strong&gt;
[lprent: There now. It was probably pulled back for an edit.]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the &#8220;Worth&#8217;s story unravels&#8221; article gone?<br />
<strong><br />
[lprent: There now. It was probably pulled back for an edit.]</strong></p>
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