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Crafar vs Cameron

Written By: - Date published: 8:49 am, February 2nd, 2012 - 118 comments
Categories: im/migration, overseas investment - Tags:

Spot the difference:

Mega-corporation with close ties to foreign dictatorship that has a policy of securing strategic resources buys swathes of New Zealand farmland after a bid by a company directly owned by the dictatorship was rejected. New Zealand public company to become the foreign company’s tenant.

vs

New resident in New Zealand buys farm.

Now, I’m pretty unhappy that the big studios and directors like James Cameron (and his new Wairapapa neighbour, Peter Jackson) extort 15% plus of their production costs from the government in return for making their films here but that’s a separate issue. He is going to become a New Zealand resident; he’s going to be working here and contributing to our economy. That’s nothing like a corporate linked to a foreign government snapping up our land and making us tenants on it – one’s immigration, the others loss of economic sovereignty.

A pity the Right doesn’t understand the difference.

118 comments on “Crafar vs Cameron”

  1. higherstandard 1

    Spot the difference:

    Your prose ?

    • Eddie 1.1

      yeah, because Cameron and Penxgin are actually identical, it’s just spin.

      Btw, the term you’re looking for is rhetoric, not prose.

  2. Colonial Viper 2

    Cameron’s got good PR advisors. His team are aware of the hubub around the Crafar deal and have said all the right things to negate key issues.

    Kudos for competent messaging, Mr Cameron. Hope you and your family actually do intend to reside in NZ (and not say, treat your Wairarapa property as a holiday home or refuge now and then).

  3. james 111 3

    I believe you should disect all of the 650000 hectares that Labour sold off in their 9 years. Wasnt Shania Twain part of that as well?
    People in glass houses shouldnt throw stones

    • KJT 3.1

      What makes you think we all supported National light.

      Some of us have been opposing land and asset sales, offshore, since the 80′s.

      • Colonial Viper 3.1.1

        A new rule would be nice. You can only buy land in NZ if you (or the company’s directors) have been resident in the country as a citizen or PR for 3 or more years. Otherwise you must lease it.

        • KJT 3.1.1.1

          Agree if you add. All shareholders.

          Not that I am a fan of shareholder capitalism either. Just another way of transferring wealth to a few.

        • jbc 3.1.1.2

          Not a bad idea at all, and there’s a similar set of ownership rules in Singapore for an obvious reason (it’s tiny):

          - Foreigners can only buy apartments. (and many/most of those are leasehold)
          - PRs can buy a ‘landed’ home – but this property must be their primary residence (i.e.: can’t buy two properties, or live overseas). When you stop living in it you are not allowed to own it.
          - Citizens don’t have those restrictions (there has to be something in it for them I guess)

    • Eddie 3.2

      I’m not in Labour’s glasshouse. And I was throwing stones at them too.

      But guess who is government now. You clearly believe that land sales are wrong or you wouldn’t have used the ‘they did it too’ defence. So how about admitting that and opposing what’s happening now, rather than trying to talk about the unchangeable past.

      Incidentally, Labour’s current policy is to prima facie reject all foreign land purchases over 5ha. Do you support such a policy, or do you support foreign governments being able to by up our strategic assets and make us tenants in our own land?

      • Gosman 3.2.1

        What’s the definition of strategic asset Eddie?

        • Colonial Viper 3.2.1.1

          What’s your definition of a strategic asset, Gossie?

          Or don’t you have one because you view all assets as similar in nature from a strictly narrow and unrealistic financialised viewpoint?

          • Gosman 3.2.1.1.1

            I can think of at least one that might be applicable but as I asked Eddie first I think I’ll wait for a reply before giving this.

  4. shorts 4

    Cameron should have failed the Of Good Character test – he’s tried busting union workers on movie sets for a very long time using a very familiar tactic we have seen at work – one engaged by his hollywood focused neighbours

    do a google and see him threatening to take his productions out of the US over workers rights (unions)

    meanwhile offshore interests buying up NZ land furthers the gravy train of escalating property prices and the capital gains to be made when sold

    would be nice to think an average kiwi could afford some dirt in the future – or is the new rule that we all must live offshore for 20 years to earn our deposits?

  5. CnrJoe 5

    oh great, our ‘backlot of hollywood’ status just got rejigged
    might as well stick up that sign at their airport – Welcome to Hollywood South 

  6. Enough is Enough 6

    Eddie ,don’t buy into Cameron’s PR bullshit. He is a movie director, not a farmer and never will be. Farming isn’t something you just decide you want to be one day and suddenly become one.

    I am sure his family wants to give up their american lives to move to the Wairarapa. That is a realistic scenario isn’t it.

    Just like the Chinese it is an investment for him. He has cash and is investing in the white gold boom,

    Sure he might build a big house on the land to spend some time in while he is over here visting his mate Sir Pete and showing off the local vineyards to his Hollywood mates. but this guy isn’t becoming a kiwi.

    Stop selling our farms to foreigners.

    • queenstfarmer 6.1

      Stop selling our farms to foreigners

      Who is “our”? Has one or more of your farms been sold to foreigners?

      • Gosman 6.1.1

        The trouble is QSF many on the left think everything in the country ultimately belongs to “The people” (i.e. them). They attempt to couch this in terms of they only care about “Strategic” assets but what is determined to be strategic is anything they deem important enough to kick up a stink about. One day it is a Farm then next it could be your house and finally it could be anything that you own that you might wish to sell to a foreigner.

        • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.1

          The trouble is QSF many on the left think everything in the country ultimately belongs to “The people” (i.e. them).

          Whereas the 0.1% believes that everything in the country ultimately belongs to them, i.e. the born to rule moneyed elite.

          • Gosman 6.1.1.1.1

            They may want everything to belong to them, (not really true though), but they don’t act as if it already does.

            • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.1.1.1

              They may want everything to belong to them, (not really true though), but they don’t act as if it already does.

              Sure they do. Hence the sell off of our state assets while ignoring Treaty stipulations, the rorting of big Christchurch City Council salaries and the gifting of bail out funds to rich finance company investors.

        • Frank Macskasy 6.1.1.2

          Who do you think the country belongs to, then, Gosman?

          Do you even accept the concept of nations?

          If you do, what constitutes nations, and opposed to geograpgic areas?

          • Gosman 6.1.1.2.1

            I have a slightly different view of Sovereignty of a nation and individual property rights Frank.

            I am aware many on the left don’t tend to distinguish between the two thinking the rights of the many outweigh the rights of the few. I obviously don’t share this philisophical viewpoint.

            It is something I do find interesting in that I can accept you can have a different view of the role of society yet people like you are unable to accept that other people can have any other view than their own or if they do they are either stupid or evil. That is really infantile logic in my opinion.

            • Frank Macskasy 6.1.1.2.1.1

              I have a slightly different view of Sovereignty of a nation and individual property rights Frank.

              I didn’t ask you if you had ” a slightly different view of Sovereignty of a nation and individual property rights”. That’s probably a ‘given’. I asked you,

              “Who do you think the country belongs to, then, Gosman?

              Do you even accept the concept of nations?

              If you do, what constitutes nations, and opposed to geograpgic areas?”

              …I can accept you can have a different view of the role of society yet people like you are unable to accept that other people can have any other view than their own or if they do they are either stupid or evil. That is really infantile logic in my opinion.

              Are you aware that you accused “people like me” as accusing others who disagree with us as “stupid or evil” – and then you accused me of “infantile logic”?

              You demand answer from others, yet rarely offer your own counter-arguments.

              And when answers are provided to you, you deflect, deride, or dismiss .

              How about answering the questions I posed above?

              • Gosman

                I didn’t state you were stupid just that thinking that people who disagree with your particular view of the world were either stupid or evil is infantile logic. Even the most intelligent people in the world resort to infantile logic at times. Obviously I don’t put you in this particular bracket but you are not stupid, just ignorant of some basic economic concepts.

                See the difference between me and you Frank is I can understand the rationale behind your view point. I just disagree with it. Bits of it makes sense but on balance I prefer a different way of structuring society. You can’t even comprehend how someone can have a different viewpoint to yours on the right. Therefore you act as if anyone who dares point out the flaws in your viewpoint, (and all political views have flaws Frank), must be duped by some right wing conspiracy to take over the world and impoverish people. That is infantile logic.

                • See, there you go again, Gosman; deflecting.

                  Answer the question, please. It’s fairly simple.

                • Jum

                  Gosman,
                  ‘right wing conspiracy to take over the world and impoverish people.’

                  Ireland, Argentina, Greece,

                • “I didn’t state you were stupid…”

                  So you didn’t write, ” That is really infantile logic ?

                  • Gosman

                    Do you disagree that it is infantile logic?

                    If so perhaps you would care to elucidate.

                    • Deflection. Again.

                      Do you deny that you wrote “I didn’t state you were stupid…”

                      And that you then wrote, ” That is really infantile logic ?

                      Either stand by what you said, or withdraw it and apologise.

                • Draco T Bastard

                  The “basic economic concepts” you adhere to are delusional and thus your entire world view is also delusional.

                  • Gosman

                    States the person who believes you can print money to fund the productive sector without causing inflation to spike. I think my world view is far more atuned to reality than yours is DTB. Mine is certainly supported by more people around the world, including most of the left leaning parties in the Western world. While true that this is not necessearily an indication that it is right it does serve to illustrate that your view hasn’t been very convincing to many people.

                    • Yeah, Gosman, but at least Draco answers a question staight-up, without your childish game-playing.

                    • KJT

                      States the person who cannot see that private banks doing the same thing,
                      and additionally, expanding the money supply by adding an extra charge, interest, should be causing even more inflation, if his hypothesis is half way correct.

                      Why did runaway inflation in Germany stop. When the Government there took money creation out of private hands, after the war, and re-issued the currency?

                    • Draco T Bastard

                      States the person who believes you can print money to fund the productive sector without causing inflation to spike.

                      Banks print money daily and inflation doesn’t spike. Hell, the governments of the world over the last few years have been printing it hand over fist trying to get inflation to rise and yet it’s stayed flat. The only real difference that I promote is that the money printed have no interest and be offset through taxes rather than loans as it is at present.

                      Mine is certainly supported by more people around the world,

                      Reminds me of the stupid adverts of 40 years ago when they used to ask can a million people be wrong? which, of course, they can be. It’s an appeal to populism that tries to bypass the facts.

                      …an indication that it is right it does serve to illustrate that your view hasn’t been very convincing to many people.

                      That just means that many people haven’t really thought about it. Actually, they probably don’t know the reality.

        • Pascal's bookie 6.1.1.3

          So just to be clear about your position Goss: Are you saying that anyone who thinks we should have an OIO, or a public works act, or anything similar, is a lefty?

          Pretty small club in the rightie house in that case.

          • Gosman 6.1.1.3.1

            Ultimately they are the products of leftist economic thinking. Therefore people on the left should be very pleased with the fact that purchases of assests by foreigners go through this process. It is also why John Key and most of National is a centerist rather than extreme right bogeyman some make him out to be. I personally think he was idiotic for making that “Tenants in our own land” comment. Certainly it flies in the face of free market economic thinking.

            • Pascal's bookie 6.1.1.3.1.1

              I think I see what you mean.

              If you put the left right divide there though, you end up with just about everyone in the world on the left, with a few cranks out on the fringe, unrepresented anywhere really being the right.

              I’m not sure how that results in a useful distinction.

              It would be like saying that if you are not an absolute monarchist, you are a libertarian. Though that has the advantage that historically speaking there have been a large number of absolute monarchists that have held sway for long periods of time.

              We are nearly all libertarian leftists now, thank goodness.

              Edit: I’ll have to take issue with this by the way “Ultimately they are the products of leftist economic thinking.”

              It’s not “ultimately” at all. It’s a direct and blatant application of the principle in question.

            • Jum 6.1.1.3.1.2

              gosman,

              ‘free market economic thinking’

              double oxymoron

              nothing is free in a free market and rightwing economists don’t actually think; they fit flawed freemarket philosophies to suit their extreme rightwing views.

              oxy = using oxygen. Stop doing it gosman.

            • aerobubble 6.1.1.3.1.3

              Taxes have in the past been very high on the wealth. And there is no reason to suppose that given population projections that NZ won’t introduce taxes to force the new landed genty to pull up lawns and grow food. the question I have, is not whether Key is an extremist (i believe he is) but whether any of that food will hit the NZ table or will it all be untaxed until it reaches its foreign owned hands overseas. I suggest its good practice to control, through taxation and regulation, the nation. Too much is bad, too little is bad. its about getting the right balance, and this is why Key is an extremist because he hold far too closely to the no government is less government ethos. No government is only possible after you recognize the need for government, then have had big government, and move consistently towards small government by handing over power to communties and moving toward an anarchic society. Key does not hand over power to communities, he hands power and control to the biggest government on the planet, the private corporate government called globalisation.

              • Gosman

                There is no such thing as the ‘right’ balance. There may be a balance that you are personally happy with in that you are happy to live with the negatives that inevitably come with all policy decisions.

    • Populuxe1 6.2

      So? There’s altogether far too much farming in this country. Our undiversified, primary product-dependent economy is one of the reasons we’re going down the toilet. Not to mention the unreasonable demands on our water supplies and river systems, pollution runoff, methane production etc. Fuck the farms.
      And in any case, how many Kiwis have some form of dual citizenship? Or live overseas while retaining NZ citizenship? Or own property in other countries as residents?

  7. queenstfarmer 7

    A pity the Right doesn’t understand the difference.

    Not sure who on “the Right” you are talking about, but one person who doesn’t appear to see much difference is David Shearer:

    However party leader David Shearer told 3News New Zealanders “do not want to be sharemilkers on foreign owned land”.

    “It doesn’t matter whether [buyers] are James Cameron or Chinese,” Mr Shearer said.

    Do you find that a pity?

    [just above your quote: "Labour said it approved of Cameron's purchase as long as he intended to stand by his statement to live here indefinitely.". Take the rest of the week off for trying to mislead your fellow commentators. Eddie]

    • What ‘David Shearer told’, in contrast to what ‘Labour said’, is quite significant as written in the article, so that seems like a harsh ban, but it may not be so bad if it sets a new precedence clamping down on misleading.

      I thought that Shearer made his statement before he knew Cameron said he would move here to live, and after that Labour released the quoted position. If that’s the case it’s The Herald who should get reprimanded for misleading.

      Regardless, Shearer’s initial judgement is interesting.

    • queenstfarmer 7.2

      My comment was not misleading in the slightest, unless you consider it misleading to quote anthing less than every entire article (which I am sure the NZ Herald would not aprreciate).

      However (in case this comment gets through) I will “abide by the umpire’s decision” and take a week off.

      • tsmithfield 7.2.1

        I agree. In my opinion you weren’t misleading.

        The Labour Party is not one in the same as David Shearer. Shearer could give his personal opinion on the matter which may or may not align exactly with the Labour Party position. If anything, it was the Herald article that was misleading for not clarifying this point.

  8. randal 8

    I never went to see any of his movies but one was a remake and one was fantasy bullshit for infantilised pinheads so I guess he is just what New Zealand needs.

    • Gosman 8.1

      So you have never seen any of James Cameron’s movies?

      I find that hard to believe. Even if you didn’t want to see Avatar or Titantic this means you have not seen Aliens or Terminator 1 and 2 and these are the movies he was director of. He has written or produced a number of other major movies.

  9. Gosman 9

    My understanding is the US citizens have to pay tax on their world wide income. Will this not be the case in this instance?

    • dv 9.1

      I suspect that the tax is paid to the US not NZ

      • Gosman 9.1.1

        That stated he might not be a naturalised US citizen as he was born in Canada. I suspect he now is though but could be wrong. It does raise the issue if US citizens should be able to invest here if they have to pay tax in the US.

        • Chris 9.1.1.1

          According to Wikipedia he isn’t a US citizen only a Canadian one – he applied to become a US citizen but withdrew the application when George Bush (the 2nd one) became president.

    • Ed 9.2

      Provided he pays tax on New Zealand income do we care? I would imagine he gets a deduction from US tax for tax paid in New Zealand.

      • Indeed, Ed.

        I think they call it a tax credit or somesuch. In fact there are problems surrounding some corporations supposedly receiving credits from tax-havens.

        So if Cameron invests here; makes profits here; and pays tax here, I doubt if he’d be required to make another tax payment in the US. That would make no sense.

        • Ianupnorth 9.2.1.1

          Like most of the uber rich he’ll have a team of accountants and attourneys who will ensure he keeps as much as possible of his earnings by whatever means possible, a la Bono and U2 offshoring all their accounts.

        • Eduardo Kawak 9.2.1.2

          James Cameron is Canadian.

          • Populuxe1 9.2.1.2.1

            Yup, and getting all hung up on individual national citizenship is sooooo twentieth century.

    • Lanthanide 9.3

      I’m not 100% on all the details, but my ex was American.

      US citizens must file tax returns every year, even if they reside outside the country. Your foreign income is converted to US $ and there’s a threshold over which you must begin paying tax (something like $80k US per year). I believe however that a large portion of the tax can be offset by whatever you pay to the foreign government; so if the foreign government’s tax rates are higher than the US ones (usually the case), then you will end up paying no or only a little extra tax to the US government.

      This “must pay taxes for life” is something that a lot of Americans (rightly) object to, but it also makes renouncing citizenship rather difficult, because it is easily seen as “tax evasion”. So you have to have other ‘genuine’ reasons to want to renounce your citizenship.

      • Gosman 9.3.2

        Thanks for this. I only recently found out about this via reading an article in The Economist. Seems like a strange system still.

        • Chris 9.3.2.1

          It’s not strange – pretty much the same as every other Western country (including NZ) aside from the part about having to file a tax return every year. But if we did and you earned income from an overseas country and paid tax there then you would get the same credits.

          Unless you were saying something else was a strange system?

        • Draco T Bastard 9.3.2.2

          What’s strange about it? You remain a part of the nation you were born to and thus have responsibilities (such as paying taxes) to that nation.

          • Lanthanide 9.3.2.2.1

            Normally the idea of taxes is that it goes to the upkeep of the society in which you live.

            If you don’t live in the US and don’t intend to ever return, why are you paying taxes to it?

            Similarly I don’t expect long-term or permanent residents of Aus to pay NZ taxes if they aren’t living here and don’t have any commercial business here.

            • Draco T Bastard 9.3.2.2.1.1

              While outside of the country they still have access to services. A NZer in trouble can go to the embassy for help, they can vote etc etc. Those services are maintained through taxes.

          • Jimmy 9.3.2.2.2

            Why? When did you become the property of an abstraction? That’s an evil and immoral mindset…

    • happynz 9.4

      Yes, but only if the income is over US$84,000 or something close to that. Anything under that isn’t taxable by the IRS.

  10. Gosman 10

    So would you be happy with the sale of the Crafer farms if a Chinese management team came to live here?

  11. randal 11

    just because you believe something does not make it true.
    I believe that most of the stuff you believe is not true.
    so there you go.
    and the only alien around here is you.
    what planet you from?

    • Gosman 11.1

      I’m not saying it isn’t true bit it is a little strange that you don’t seem to watch much in the way of blockbuster Hollywood movies, (which is the ultimate conclusion to be taken from not seeing ANY of James Cameron’s films).

      • Lanthanide 11.1.1

        Um, James Cameron isn’t exactly a prolific director.

        Terminator, Aliens, Terminator 2, Titanic and Avatar. That’s his best known ones. Interesting that they’re T’s and A’s.

        • Chris 11.1.1.1

          You can’t leave out True Lies – great movie admittedly haven’t seen it in a while and it probably hasn’t aged well but it was awesome.

        • lprent 11.1.1.2

          The Abyss ?

        • Gosman 11.1.1.3

          Not prolific but certainly his movies are classics of each of the genres they are in.

          Avatar, Terminator, and Aliens are probably in the top 10 Sci-fi/Horror movies. Two of them were groundbreaking in terms of special effects.

          If you have an interest in Movies generally rather than just as an occasionally distraction from day to day reality then you should have seen these.

      • Puddleglum 11.1.2

        Hi Gosman,

        It might be ‘strange’ probabilistically (amongst middle class New Zealanders who frequent the internet) but I hope you don’t think it is strange behaviourally (as in ‘suspect’, ‘an indication of some social pathology’, or some such)?

        I haven’t seen any of those movies. I’ve heard about them, of course, and have seen excerpts occasionally – a bit unavoidable in today’s world. But I haven’t chosen to go and see them or hire them on DVD. I’ve seen other Hollywood films.

        I guess it seems strange to me that you should think it strange not to have seen them – In fact, I’d hazard a guess that most people in the world haven’t seen them. 

        • Populuxe1 11.1.2.1

          I guess it seems strange to me that you should think it strange not to have seen them – In fact, I’d hazard a guess that most people in the world haven’t seen them.

          Oh Puddleglum, you obviously totally underestimate the penetration power of Hollywood – like that funny bit in Romancing the Stone where in the middle of the jungle they find a guy with a xerox machine. Even some of the most pitiful shacks in Asia and Africa have satellite tv, or at the very least a DVD player.

  12. ropata 12

    I don’t like the fact that Cameron will probably just be a local landlord but it’s better than an absentee landlord. He seems to be genuinely interested in contributing something to NZ. Cameron’s blockbusters are formulaic, but his residence in NZ will only enhance Wellington’s growth in the movie industry. Not much to complain about really.

  13. The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 13

    Curious fact:

    The plots of Avatar and Dances with Wolves were identical.

    • Gosman 13.1

      I’d suggest very similar rather than identical. However that is to be expected in story telling. People have made the claim that Star Wars was a rip off of Seven Samurai..

      • felix 13.1.1

        It’s not so much a matter of being “ripped off”, it just happens to be part of a very long tradition of storytelling.

        This particular story is usually referred to as “The Hero’s Journey” ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth ) and it’s been told all over the earth for thousands of years. You can find it in ancient myths and legends, religious texts, fairy tales, and hollywood blockbusters alike.

        The setting obviously changes but the archetypal characters, their interactions, and many other essential elements of the story have remained very similar through the ages.

        This page has a simple side by side comparison of the essential elements of The Matrix and Star Wars as seen through the “Hero’s Journey” lens: http://moongadget.com/origins/myth.html

    • Draco T Bastard 13.2

      Every story has been told, re-told, forgotten and then told again. The formats shifts slightly but that’s about it.

    • Lanthanide 13.3

      Here’s a fun website for you:
      http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Avatar

      Warning: this site can suck more of your time than Wikipedia does.

  14. randal 14

    your fantasy world is amazing.
    maybe cameron will give YOU a job?

    • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 14.1

      Hey, randal. Learn how to use the reply function or, in additions to your comments being completely incoherent, we will not know at whom they are directed.

  15. There seems to be a presumption that Cameron will be granted residency and will be able to work here. Has he already been through our normal immigration procedures? Or is his fame and fortune an automatic guarantee?

  16. Personally speaking, if Cameron is moving to New Zealand and becomes a citizen, then, like other immigrants and immigrants before him, and like my parents, he is welcome (in my view) to take up whatever business activity is available to him.

    Just as, I’d welcome the owners of Shanghai Pengxin as New New Zealanders and farmers if they actually came to NZ and took up citizenship, and became a part of our community.

    It’s the absentee landlordism; carving up of NZ for offshore investors; and loss of profits (which impacts on our BoP) that I, and others, have a problem with.

    • Wayne 16.1

      But Frank. That is not the case yet.

      As far as we know Cameron has not even applied for residency yet, let alone being granted it.

      So the sale of land is to a foreigner, albeit a foreigner who has simply made the right noises about coming here to live.

      You saying that we should treat this application differently because of Cameron simply promising to do something?

      Would that not set a rather unholy precedent?

      • Colonial Viper 16.1.1

        Personally speaking, if Cameron is moving to New Zealand and becomes a citizen

        Wayne. I just quoted Frank’s line above with added emphasis since you seem to have trouble reading and comprehending the meaning of the word “IF”.

      • As ‘Viper pointed out, Wayne, there are several “ifs” associated with Cameron’s situation.

        If he follows procedures set out for other prospective immigrants, I’ve no problem with folks migrating to NZ, if they meet criteria, etc, etc. Regardless of ethnicity.

        Personally, I’d love the owners of Shanghai Pengxin to migrate to NZ, and bring their families and assets with them. Hell, I’d probably shout them a beer if I ever met any of them at a local pub…

        As I said before, it’s absentee landlords I have a problem with. I think by the year 2050, if landsales keep progressing unchecked, I think all New Zealanders will realise the consequences of selling our means of farm production.

  17. Jum 17

    The media spins:

    Letter – Asset sales in Waikato times http://www.waikatotimes.co.nz

    26/01/2012 Letter – Water, water everywhere

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/opinion/columnists/michael-cox/6298438/Best-to-first-pay-off-that-debt

    Michael Cox’s column (Opinion, Jan 23) compares the Government plans to sell off half its ownership of energy utilities to reduce debt, with the situation of an individual cashing in a term deposit to reduce a mortgage.
    Surely a more appropriate comparison would be with an individual selling a prosperous small business that yields profits that help the person to pay off his or her mortgage?
    The former course of action seems to make good sense, especially given current deposit and mortgage interest rates, but can the same be said of the latter?
    DH FOREMAN
    Hamilton

  18. randal 18

    its the kissass dicky lickers I cant stand.
    at least all the wingnuts on their hardly davisons will be going down that way to show off instead of drowning the rest of the Wairarapa in their hinky noise.

  19. Pascal's bookie 19

    Bah, I edited a comment, and now it’s gone into moderation. natch.

    [lprent: The daemons of Akismet are always watching. But I wasn't aware that it did it on edits, but it is logical. ]

  20. Nick C 20

    So lets be clear: If instead of intending to farm the land (creating jobs, tax revenue, connections to chinese markets etc) a Chinese billonare had just decided to buy the 16 Crafar farms, build nice houses on them and turn them into a series of mansions for his retirement plans to move here indefinitly, that would be fine?

    Seems like a totally bizzare test.

    [Cameron is going to be farming his land. Eddie]

  21. burt 21

    Selling land to foreigners if different when Labour are in Govt. It’s good when Labour are in govt and bad when National are in govt. It’s that simple for simple people who follow a failed ideology.

    How hum… partisan hacks have shit for brains – what’s new ?

    [who said it was good under Labour? Do you think it's bad under either National or Labour, or good under either? Eddie]

    • Hardly, Burt.

      In fact, there was considerable opposition to land sales, as these two articles clearly show,

      “Protesters march for landmark”
      http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_skin/117876

      “Kiwi anger over Twain land sale”
      http://articles.cnn.com/2004-09-16/world/newzealand.property_1_public-access-south-island-land-prices?_s=PM:WORLD

      The fact that Labour stuffed up simply means that rank & file members need to ensure that the leadership are listening.

      Otherwise, they will bleed yet more support to Mana, Greens, and NZ First.

      • Draco T Bastard 21.1.1

        Labour will continue to bleed more. They’re a right wing party and the rank and file are starting to wake up to that. Pity it’s taken them so long.

    • Draco T Bastard 21.2

      No burt, as has been said many times by many people over the last few years on here, selling the land to foreign owners is bad and yes, it was rather stupid of the last Labour led government to leave that law in place but then, Labour still believe the delusional economists – the economists who wouldn’t know what an economy was if they tripped over one (Just like the ones in Treasury). Selling the land and the businesses to foreigners is selling the economy.

      • aerobubble 21.2.1

        The problem I though was capital independance, that we will sell off our capacity to furnish our debts. Key has been trying to push debt onto the taxpayer, and been rather successful at it, and now he is targetting the other side of the equation and removing the ability of government to pay down debt – which Labour achieved.

  22. The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 22

    A pity the Right doesn’t understand the difference.

    Righties, and Winston and Enough is Enough and shorts.

  23. Ross 23

    ["Labour said it approved of Cameron's purchase as long as he intended to stand by his statement to live here indefinitely"]

    Hmmm that’s a curious one. What if he doesn’t live here indefinitely? And what if he lives here indefinitely but not for another 20 years? There seem to be a few potential loopholes in what Shearer has said. Does Labour have a policy on this issue? I saw its policy from the last election, but I can’t recall the policy allowing foreigners to buy farms as long as they lived here.

    • Gosman 23.1

      What is the view of a NZ citizen who owns a farm and decides to emigrate to Australia but decides to keep ownership of the farm? Should they be forced to sell?

  24. randal 24

    depends if they watch blockbuster movies all the time and have completely lost touch with reality.

  25. Carol 25

    James Cameron has written and directed films and TV programmes with some very good action women (breaking some gender and sexual stereotypes): e.g. Aliens, Terminator films and TV series, short-lived Dark Angel TV series.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000116/

    But Titanic was stereotypical Hollywood romance, and Avatar repeated the cultural imperialism of Pocahontas (hero from the colonising culture saves the day), while thinking he was doing endangered indigenous cultures a favour.

    • Wayne 25.1

      Yes….Avatar, while seemingly having an anti-imperialist message, had at the same time a racist subtext —-the white hero saving the day and marrying the princess of the oppressed tribe.

      Obviously a rip-off of the Pocahontas story.

      Cameron has just made a few noises about coming to stay and liver here indefinitely. He is at present a non-resident. So his application can only be treated as that of a non-resident.

      Eddie is being ridiculous here. So the OIO should just take into consideration a verbal promise that the new owner will live in the country? For fucks sake Cameron has not even submitted a residency application yet, let alone had it approved. Is it not rather sinister that he can say he will live here with such confidence, as though it is a given?

      So there is NO difference, from a legal standpoint of Cameron’s offer and the Chinese offer. The two applications had to be considered using the same rules.

      Promising to settle here counts for nothing, under the rules. Or is Eddie saying that we should simply take Cameron for his word? Would he say the same if it was not Cameron, but rather some Chinese billionaire?

      If the head of Pengxin suddenly made a statement that he intended to spend most of his time in NZ…would that suddenly be OK?

      Also of course Cameron is helping to price locals out of the market—–or is that OK because he is white?

  26. Eduardo Kawak 26

    I remember when Serj Tankian was trying to buy some property at Bethell’s Beach and was rejected by the OIO in 2005 because it wasn’t “in the nation’s interest” that he be allowed to go through with the purchase. The guy subsequently became a New Zealand resident and eventually was allowed to buy some land.

    This should be the rule for all individuals. I don’t know what James Cameron’s residency status is, but he must have done all the necessary in order to buy his piece of New Zealand.

    As for Pengxin, it also must have done the necessary in order to buy its piece of New Zealand. The sad irony is that OIO in this case must have agreed it was “in the nation’s interest” fully knowing that subsequently a government company (Landcorp) would then be leasing the newly acquired land off the approved foreign company owners.

    And “the nation’s best interests” will always be open to debate.

  27. randal 27

    who really knows what is the best interests of the nation?
    but what I do know is that titanic is always open to re-makes because it is about stupid rich people.
    the boat was made for stupid rich people and they would have had help much sooner if the proprietary wireless system set up for stupid rich people had been allowed to be use to broadcast a SOS but no and the stupid rich people paid the price.
    now a rich film director who makes escapist fantasy films for people who cant or dont want to face reality has been allowed to purchase a fantasy here and if anyone watched the teevee news tonight they are all drooling over him already. (stupid poor people)
    perhaps he is really an alien in idsguise and he wants to terminate new zealand?

  28. randal 28

    and wait there is more.
    he gets a lake chock full of trout and perch chucked in!
    and he is right up against the rimutaka forest park so his henchmen can drive deer onto the property to be terminated.
    gee!
    pretty cool huh?

  29. Yes….Avatar, while seemingly having an anti-imperialist message, had at the same time a racist subtext —-the white hero saving the day and marrying the princess of the oppressed tribe.

    Yep, noticed that as well. That was one of the few things that let the movie down. It’s a shame the story wasn’t as revolutionary/original (or at least more challenging) as the animation techniques.

    • Reality Bytes 29.1

      I dunno, who cares about the color of their skin. I think the motivational rationale of the characters should be the important factor when judging the message behind it.

      Why can’t a hero have white skin? Such unimportant details should be immaterial and irrelavent. In the era the movie Avatar was portrayed, we would have moved on as a species.

      It’s a movie, it’s not Bible vers 2.0

      Cameron has no obligation to make every movie like it is some sort of sacred instruction for us. And on the whole, as someone who has enjoyed his movies, I find his movies to be quite a lot more thoughtful than most, conflicting racial issues never really crossed my mind when watching his stuff.

      He just doesn’t work on that agenda, tbh his stories are human stories which could easily be recast with different nationalties in the leads, be it the love story on Titanic, or Ripley’s human story in Aliens.

      Watch his stuff, you’ll see what I mean, the guy would be a fantastic honourary citizen of NZ we should welcome imo.

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    New Zealand’s international standing as a community that encourages and fosters all cultures will be bolstered under a Labour Government with an upgrade of the present Office of Ethnic Affairs to a Ministry. Releasing Labour’s Ethnic Affairs policy, spokesperson Phil...
    Labour | 25-08
  • South Auckland housing crisis
    National’s HomeStart package is nothing more than a political stunt designed to beguile South Auckland voters, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. “Few working Pasifika and Maori workers in South Auckland will be able to buy their own...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Home buyer subsidy discredited in Oz
    Treasury advised against National’s policy of ramping up home buyer subsidies after it was discredited in Australia because it pushed house prices even higher, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Documents released under the OIA (attached) show Treasury advised the...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Nursing hours explain turnover and high-stress culture
    A staff survey supports concerns nursing staff at Dunedin Hospital are under increasing pressure and that the emergency department is in a critical state, says Labour’s Associate Health Spokesperson David Clark.  “An ED nursing survey at Dunedin found that 80...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Underhand tactics prove case for axing donations
    Revelations that schools are using underhand tactics to coerce donations from cash-strapped parents further highlights the need for Labour's plan to increase funding so they aren't dependent on contributions from parents, Labour's Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “By law New...
    Labour | 24-08
  • National applies band-aid to housing crisis
    The Government’s flagship housing announcement is a band-aid approach that will push up prices rather than solve the housing crisis, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “House sales to first home buyers have collapsed as a direct result of the Government’s...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Climate change focus on the now for the future
    A Labour Governmentwill put in place a comprehensive climate change strategy focusing on bothmitigation and adaptation, establish an independent Climate Commission andimplement carbon budgeting, says Labour Climate Change spokesperson MoanaMackey."This is about future-proofing our economy. Making the transition to alow-carbon...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Labour’s 21st century transport pledge
    The next Labour-led Government will create a 21st century transport system for New Zealand that promotes the most efficient and sustainable combination of transport options, says Labour’s Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour will rebalance the Government's transport spending away from...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Housing under National: the facts
    1.       House prices in Auckland Council valuations indicate Auckland house prices have gone up by one-third over the last three years. (Auckland Council) The average Auckland house price has gone up by nearly $225,000 since 2008, up over $75,000 in...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Labour irons out low income tax issue
    The increasing casualisation of work has led to many New Zealand families being disadvantaged through the tax they pay, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. "Many low paid workers are having to work two or three jobs to make ends meet...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Cornered Government comes out swinging
    The National Government is so desperate to keep its dead-in-the-water expert teachers policy alive, it has refused to rule out forcing schools to participate through legislation, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “John Key today attacked the Educational Institute for...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Pacific people continue to go backwards under National
    A report from Victoria University highlights the fact that Pacific people are continuing to go backwards under a National Government, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “The report shows the largest inequality increases were in smoking, obesity, tertiary...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Wellington transport plan needs to keep moving
    The failure of the Transport Agency to properly look at alternatives to the Basin Reserve flyover is not a good reason for further delays to improving transport in Wellington, Labour MPs Grant Robertson and Annette King say. “The Board of...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Labour’s focus on inequality, kids and better job prospects
    Tackling child poverty and removing barriers to people working part time to enhance their prospects of moving into a fulltime job are highlights of Labour’s Social Development policy. Releasing the policy today, spokesperson Sue Moroney said while part-time work was...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Political staff should give answers under oath
    The Inspector General of Security and Intelligence should use her full statutory powers to question witnesses under oath about the leak of SIS information, says Labour MP Phil Goff. “Leakage of confidential information from the SIS for political purposes is...
    Labour | 21-08
  • High dollar, hands-off Govt sends workers to dole queue
    The loss of up to 100 jobs at Croxley stationery in Auckland is devastating news for their families and the local Avondale community, Labour’s Employment, Skills and Training spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The company’s inability to compete in international markets...
    Labour | 21-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • The Daily Blog 2014 progressive voter guide – who to vote for to change ...
    If you want to know how to vote in a way to change this Government,  here is the electorate by electorate guide on how to strategically vote to kick National out of office. There are two votes. Electorate vote and Party...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Are Cameron Slater and Judiith Collins bare-faced liars?
    . . Are Cameron Slater and Judith Collins both bare-faced liars? Both of them. Liars? Here is why I ask… In the latest revelations, information disclosed by Rawshark/Whaledump to the NZ Herald alleges in further leaked sensitive information from  ...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • What has surprised me most about the Ashburton WINZ shootings
    The terrible deaths at a WINZ office in Ashburton took us all by surprise. Staunch poverty campaigner Sue Bradford commented before the deaths were known and was attacked by waves of twitterarti who knew best. Sue apologised but her wider...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kiri Hannifin  – Make domestic violence an election issue
    Violence against women and children continues to be a profound issue in this country.  Despite the stellar efforts of thousands of grass roots workers to support victims of violence every day, we cannot seem to stem the tide. The past...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Factchecking Key’s Leaders debate claims
    There were so many questionable facts Key threw at Cunliffe in last nights debate that I emailed a few contacts to ask if they were true. Here is the very long list of things Key said that simply were not...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • August Blog stats – TDB closing in on Kiwiblog – our final election con...
    The August blog stats are in, and The Daily Blog retains our position as the largest left wing blog in NZ with 416 374 visits last month and 667 411. Kiwi Blog who has been operating for a decade with...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – New Zealand First: Coalition of the Willing...
    There is, right now, an absolute metric truck-tonne of misinformation, lies, and willful distortion flying about on social media, in the blogosphere and even in the media and corridors of power about New Zealand First’s coalition position. Some of this...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Judith Collins i...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • The Press Leaders Debate – proof a newspaper can kill the internet
    No more beersies for you Mr Key. Seriously – was the Prime Minister drunk during this debate? I am so sickened by what passed as a Leaders debate, I will make this review short and vicious. Everyone involved in putting...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Voting starts tomorrow!
    On the telly, in the papers, on the Net, billboards on almost every street corner – it’s hard to miss the fact that there’s an election coming up. Everyone’s trying to win your vote on Election Day, September 20, (this...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Collins inquiry a whitewash before it has even started
    The farce whitewash that Key is trying to push through here for the inquiry into Judith Collins role in a hit on the SFO should enrage any NZer, regardless of how they vote. Whaleoil won’t be forced to appear, it’s...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Press Leaders Debate – Round 2 – 7pm tonight
    This debate is live in a Town Hall, Key has done well at these in the past, but since the hate politics exposed in Dirty Politics, expect real fury directed at Key. My guess is that Key will attempt to use whatever he...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • MANA hit speed wobbles – why Annette Sykes will win Waiariki
    MANA are my favourites. But of late, their transition from crawling to sprinting has hit some speed wobbles. Hone’s and Pam’s aggressive attitude towards the media recently is very understandable in light of how connected many of the media were to...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Soz Cam – PaknSave boycott of whaleoil continues – time to start a boyc...
    Cam is so carcinogenic now, not even his mates in the Tobacco Industry are talking to him any longer. I suspect only the Israeli Defence Force propaganda department are paying for content on whaleoil now. Cam says that PaknSave have dropped their problems...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • The Rock Fuels NZ Roastbuster Rape Culture
    This is making me feel pretty uncomfortable. Here we have an instance of Jono and Ben posing like “exposed celebrities”. But do you know what I’m seeing? I’m seeing two dudes who basically “roasted” a woman online (exposed pictures of...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – Why beneficiaries need advocacy
    There are times when I am wrong. I was wrong recently when someone suggested to me that AAAP should be eligible for government funding to continues its advocacy work. That was before. Before dealing with advocacy on a weekly basis...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • TheDailyBlog September Political Poll Has Been Kicked Off
    The Daily Blog’s August poll has concluded and the September poll has been kicked off, asking readers: What party will you likely vote for at this year’s General Election? You will see this month’s poll in the right-hand sidebar of...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – Jamie Whyte, leave that poor seal alone!
    Worse than showing mere lip service to Rainbow inclusion, ACT leader Jamie Whyte showed stunning arrogance when appeared at a candidates debate on rainbow issues hosted by the Auckland University Students’ Association last Thursday. The stunning hypocrisy was evident as...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Right wing can’t help but use scum
    Some people have been shocked that the traditional right wing party in New Zealand politics is so deeply embedded with scum like the blogger Whale Oil. We need not be so surprised. It takes a certain type to support the...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • EXCLUSIVE: National’s Ohariu candidate admits contact by Simon Lusk
    . . Wellington, NZ, 31  August – At a meet-the-candidates public meeting in the Rongotai Electorate, National’s Ohariu candidate, Brett Hudson, confirmed that he had been approached by “a mate”, who passed on a message from  National Party operative, Simon...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014
    Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Petition for Governor General of New Zealand to Investigate all the allegat...
      Now we see the inquiry will be a whitewash, that is secret, won’t be consulted with the Opposition, will have limited scope and will ignore Nicky Hager’s book, we must demand the Governor General step in and demand an...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Ashburton, 1 September 2014
    I NEVER WENT BACK to Aramoana after the killing. I had been a frequent visitor to the tiny seaside village back in the late 1970s and throughout the 80s. Its tall cliffs and broad beaches providing a colourful backdrop to...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Checkmate in 1 move – how could Slater have known what was in OIA request...
    And now we get down to the final few moves before checkmate. If the following investigation is right, how could Slater and Collins have known what was in the Secret Intelligence Service Official Information Act request that hadn’t been released...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • The Edge Posts Naked Photos Of Jennifer Lawrence Without Consent
    Today the Edge website – owned by Media Works – published fully naked photographs of Jennifer Lawrence without her consent. It is not OK to publish naked media of any woman without her consent, full stop. It is absolutely disgusting...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Bomber, Laila and Maggie – a highlight from Auckland Broadcasting Debate ...
    Bomber, Laila and Maggie – a highlight from Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, how good was I i...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Maggie Barry slags Laila Harre & blogger, audience erupt
    The Coalition for Better Broadcasting held their public meeting in Auckland last night and it became a fiery shouting match when Maggie Barry decided to slag Laila Harre and me off. 250 people packed into the Pioneer Hall off High...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • It has to be a full independent public inquiry and Key MUST front
      You know things are bad when images like this start appearing in the media.  It isn’t a ‘left wing conspiracy’ to point out the over whelming evidence of what is clearly a right wing conspiracy! If it looks like a conspiracy, sounds like a conspiracy...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Political Party social media stats – National playing Dirty Politics on s...
    Interesting data from friend of the blog, Marty Stewart, on social media likes and it shows an interesting question that post Dirty Politics should probably get asked…   …it’s interesting that Key has so many personal followers.  One wonders if...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • The depth of the National rot and the compliance of our news media
    I’m so tired. Aren’t you? I don’t want to read the news anymore. It’s awful and I feel ashamed of it. We live in a country that people all over the world would give an arm, a leg; their life...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Conservative Party candidate links smacking ban with suicide, sexually tran...
    If Chemtrails, faked moon landings and climate change denial weren’t enough, welcome to your new Minister for Spanking,  Edward Saafi... The anti-smacking law is to blame for youth suicide, youth prostitution and even sexually-transmitted infections, a leading Conservative party candidate...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word on the canonisation of Matthew Hooton
    Before we all start the canonisation of Matthew Hooton, let’s consider some home truths here shall we? While the Wellington Ruminator Blog, the blog who was previously mates with Judith Collins, now seems to have a crush on Matthew Hooton… …I...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word on undercover cops in bars
    Dunedin police booze operation labelled ‘creepy’ Undercover police officers drank in Dunedin bars as part of an operation targeting liquor licensing offences. While police said the inaugural operation was a success — with most bars found compliant — the Hospitality...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Judith Collins press conference
    Judith Collins press conference...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Angry Lawyer – Collins, Odgers, Williams and legal ethics
    We deserve better lawyers than Judith Collins Three of the worst offenders exposed in Dirty Politics are lawyers: Judith Collins, Cathy Odgers, and Jordan Williams. What Nicky Hager exposed them doing would be out of line for anyone, but from...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – Necessary Defence
    Increasingly climate change is becoming the main fracture line between political parties. Where political parties stand on climate change defines political parties and movements like no other issue. The Mana Movement like the Maori Party it sprang from, came out...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Why it is all over for John Key
    Image: Melanie D I’ve been confident that National will lose this election and that our focus should be on what a progressive Government needs to establish as its agenda in the first 100 days. Past that point, the establishment pushes back...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word to everyone who voted National in 2011
    I received this interesting email from a National Party supporter today… …let me say this to anyone who voted National last election – you should be ashamed by what has been revealed and what your vote ended up enabling but...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • EXCLUSIVE: Déjà Vu All Over Again: John Ansell confirms his participation...
      THE MAN BEHIND the Iwi-Kiwi billboards that very nearly won the 2005 election for Don Brash and the National Party has confirmed his involvement in businessman John Third’s and former Act MP Owen Jennings’ campaign to drive down the...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Public Broadcasting Auckland debate 6.30pm tonight now with Colin Craig &am...
    The Coalition for Better Broadcasting debate on public broadcasting happens tonight at 6.30pm in Auckland at the Pioneer Women’s Hall, High Street, Auckland City.  In the light of Dirty Politics and the manipulation of the media, public broadcasting is more important for...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Winners & Losers in Collins sacking plus what’s the latest on Slater...
      Make no mistake, there was no way this was a resignation, it’s a face saving way out for Collins, she was sacked.  My understanding is that National internal polls are haemorrhaging and that the powers that be within National...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Third party propaganda attacks incoming Labour-led government
    . . Further to a report by Daily Blogger, Chris Trotter, on receiving information regarding planned attack-billboards, the following billboard is highly visible to traffic on the southbound lane of the Wellington motorway, just prior to the Murphy St turn-off....
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Labour wins the Internet
    I’m sure I’m not the only one who tried to vote online for the leaders debate and couldn’t because the website was down. The next option was the txt vote, 75c a pop of course. So I’m not surprised that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Rotherham and the need to challenge willful bl...
    I haven’t been following the events in Rotterham too closely.  I’ve read about the basic issues and the culture of silence that stopped action been taken even after complaints were made.  That culture of silence is incredibly familiar, and described...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Review: Hairspray
      Oh Hairspray! What fun! Somehow I managed to miss the movie when it came out, I had no idea really what it was about though I felt it had a vague relation to High School Musical. In retrospect, that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Mounting global pressure against Timor-Leste’s ‘death sentence’ media...
    East Timor’s José Belo … courageous fight against ‘unconstitutional’ media law.Image: © Ted McDonnell 2014 CAFÉ PACIFIC and the Pacific Media Centre Online posted challenges to the controversial ‘press law’ nine months ago when it emerged how dangerous this draft...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Spies, Lies and When Campaigns Are Fried
    Like most of the rest of the nation’s political classes, I was eagerly affixed to TV One from 12:30 on Saturday afternoon to witness the downfall of Judith Collins.Whenever we witness the crumbling of a titan of the political landscape...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Whaleoil crushes Crusher
    Judith ends up shooting herself A new email has been released suggesting that Collins was attempting to undermine the head of Serious Fraud Office with the help of far right hate speech merchant Cameron Slater. Unbelievable!   She has been forced...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Rumours Judith Collins gone at lunchtime
    Brook Sabin first of the mark with rumours Judith Collins is about to resign – PM announcing a statement at 12.30pm… …Paddy follows… …Vance confirms..   …if Collins is gone by lunchtime, it will be because the PM understands the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Independent Epsom Candidates ‘One Strike’ Crime Policy
    Best wishes to all of those who live in Epsom, Mount Eden, New Market, Remuera and of course the rest of New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Large majorities of NZ First voters would prefer Labour deal
    67% of those who voted for New Zealand First at the 2011 general election would prefer Labour to lead a coalition government if one is needed after September 20’s general election....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Jointly owned urban development agency for Christchurch
    “Given the strategic importance of the Canterbury rebuild, it is logical that the transition from emergency governance arrangements is overseen by the Prime Minister’s office, but to maintain momentum in the city centre an expert development agency...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Collins inquiry at best a Band-Aid, a permanent fix needed
    Collins inquiry at best a Band-Aid, a permanent fix is needed The Public Service Association (PSA) says the inquiry into Judith Collins’ behaviour must be accompanied by a process to restore the lost trust between Ministers and public servants if...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Association welcomes new Chief Executive
    “The New Zealand Police Association is pleased to announce the appointment of Heather Verry to Chief Executive. Heather picks up the mantle from Chris Pentecost, who recently retired from this position,” Police Association President Greg O’Connor said...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Young Voters Want Politicians to Grow Up
    Young voters want answers to the questions that directly affect them – but it seems as much as anything, they want politicians to grow up....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Climate Voter election debate to get big audience
    Auckland, 2 September 2014 - Tickets to tomorrow night’s first-ever Climate Voter election debate have sold out but an online audience will also get to see the event live....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • The Edge show disregard for consent
    The Edge has shown complete disregard for consent, for women’s bodies and in doing so has contributed to the wider issue of rape culture in New Zealand says specialist sexual violence prevention organisation, Sexual Abuse Prevention Network. Yesterday,...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • The Rock is Fuelling New Zealand’s Roastbuster Rape Culture
    The Rock are still displaying without-consent images of Jennifer Lawrence and other celebrities online. They are making fun of this without-consent action, saying that she was "asking for it", etc. They appear to be supporting this kind of...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • HRLA Condemns Murder of Filipino Human Rights lawyer
    Attorney Rodolfo R. Felicio, a member of the National Union of Peoples Lawyers , was gunned down while working on a land dispute in Rizal, east of Manila. Two caretakers of the disputed land were also injured in the attack....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • SFO lays charges for procurement fraud
    Two individuals have been charged in the Auckland District Court today with Crimes Act charges laid by the Serious Fraud Office for alleged fraud against Mighty River Power Limited relating to procurement for the Company’s Southdown power station....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Commitment to lifting wages good for New Zealand
    The Service and Food Workers Union has applauded the Green Party workers’ policy announced today....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Sykes: There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Winston Peters Shown up by the Civilian Party
    Even the satirical 'Civilian Party' has now offered the Taxpayers’ Union more credible figures for the ' Bribe-O-Meter ' than Winston Peters’ New Zealand First. The Taxpayers’ Union Bribe-O-Meter now includes, National, Labour, the Greens,...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Further criminal investigation into CTV Building collapse
    Police has today confirmed it will be advancing the criminal investigation into the collapse of the CTV building in February 2011....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Greens policy to restore link between effort and reward
    The Green Party’s new workers policy articulates an alternative to wage repression and job insecurity based on restoring the link between effort and reward, according to FIRST Union. The core tenets of the policy include implementing an $18 minimum...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Greens workers policy supported by union movement
    The CTU is supporting the Green Party’s policy launched today focused on improving life for working New Zealanders. “This policy shows the Greens commitment to collective bargaining as the best and fairest way to improve workers terms and conditions. It...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Research Scholarships for Cannabis Treatments
    Medical cannabis research will be boosted by $140 million if the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party is elected on September 20. Pediatric epilepsy treatment will be one of the main priorities for the research scholarships....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Ngai Te Rangi Change to Tribal Elections
    Ngai Te Rangi has begun a postal vote of beneficiaries to change the way representatives are elected to the two Ngai Te Rangi tribal organisations....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Greens’ commitment to pay equity welcomed by workers
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says the 58,000 workers they represent will benefit from the announcement by the Green Party of a commitment to pay equity and to a living wage for core public servants and contractors....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Real People Powering Real Policy
    New Zealanders from all walks of life have helped the Internet Party create a full platform of strong, progressive and realistic policies that will create a better future for everyone, says leader Laila Harré....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • University of Canterbury to help with forestry safety
    The University of Canterbury is to launch a new research project to make sure New Zealand’s new forestry roads are safe and are established with minimal environmental impact....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Time to get serious about ending homelessness!
    New Zealand needs a comprehensive set of policies that address the housing and support needs of homeless people as well as significantly increasing the supply of affordable, good quality houses and flats....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Hundreds to join domestic, sexual violence march
    Several social service providers from across New Zealand have come together to call for an end to the epidemic level of domestic and sexual violence in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Students helped with debt repayments
    New Zealand students now living in Australia are being reminded not to ignore their student loan debt as Inland Revenue expands its latest tool to help with repayments....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Launch of GenderNeutral.co.nz website
    GenderNeutral.co.nz are excited to announce the launch of their new website, GenderNeutral.co.nz ....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Factory farming debaters to look chicken in the eye
    MPs participating in a panel discussion about factory farming will come face-to-face with a real live hen, rescued from the claws of the intensive farming industry. Hettie the Hen will demonstrate to the MPs what little space is afforded to...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Personal Statement by Matthew Hooton
    Personal Statement by Matthew Hooton 1 September 2014 For Immediate Release “This morning I made comments on Radio New Zealand’s Nine to Noon programme about an attempt by staff in the Prime Minister’s Office to interfere in the appointment...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Worm turns down for John Key
    John Key struggled to coax The Worm above the line in Thursday’s Leaders Debate, according to Roy Morgan’s Reactor, the original Worm. John Key struggled to coax The Worm above the line in Thursday’s Leaders Debate, according to Roy Morgan’s...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Edge Posts Naked Photos Without Consent
    The Edge website, owned by Media Works have published fully naked photographs of Jennifer Lawrence without her consent....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Statement from the Governor-General on Ashburton Shootings
    The Governor-General, Lt Gen The Rt Hon Sir Jerry Mateparae, has expressed his deep shock following the shooting of three people in Ashburton today....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Update on IGIS inquiry into release of NZSIS information
    In recognition of the public interest, the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security, Cheryl Gwyn, took the unusual step of providing an update during the course of an inquiry and confirmed today that she would be summoning a number of individuals...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • An Open Government Plan developed in secrecy
    The State Services Commission sent NZ’s Open Government Action Plan to the international Open Government Partnership (OGP) Secretariat on 31 July. The countries involved in the OGP since its inception - from the UK and US to Indonesia and Brazil...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • KiwiRail; another year older and deeper in debt
    That is a lot of money and there are lessons that need to be learnt before we pour in another $1 billion....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Fonterra China Deal Demands Safe Supply Chain
    The future success of Fonterra’s deal to sell infant formula in China [1] requires all milk it uses be safe and for Fonterra to secure its supply chain from contamination by GE DNA and pesticide residues. There is now significant...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • HRC praises Auckland mum for speaking out
    Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy has praised an Auckland mother of four who went public after humiliating treatment by staff at The Warehouse....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Southern DHB refers disputed issue to Serious Fraud Office
    Following advice from forensic investigation firm Beattie Varley Limited, Southern District Health Board has referred the expenditure at the centre of its long running dispute with South Link Health to the Serious Fraud Office. The parties have been...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Letter 1 September 2014
    Last night’s TVNZ Colmar Brunton poll puts the left and right 60 MPs each. United and the Maori Party say they will go with the side that gets to 61 MPs. ACT just needs just 1.3% or 28 thousand Party...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Shopping Giveaway Harmless Fun For Kids
    Family First NZ is rubbishing claims by critics including Gareth Morgan that the New World ‘Little Shop’ promotion is harmful for kids, and says that kids should be allowed to be kids. “Children love acting like their parents and pretending...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Red Cross launches employment service for former refugees
    New Zealand Red Cross is encouraging employers to give refugees a fresh startwith the launch of Pathways to Employment, a nationwide work assistance service....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • EDS welcomes Labour’s Conservation Policy
    The Environmental Defence Society has welcomed Labour’s Conservation Policy including the key objective of halting the current pattern of indigenous biodiversity decline within ten years....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Poverty is falling and income inequality is not rising
    “A Roy Morgan poll shows that the issue people are most concerned about is income inequality. This just goes to show how the persistent repetition of a lie bewilders the public. Income inequality is not in fact rising. And the...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Rotary NZ responding to Fiji water and sanitation issues
    Clean water and sanitation are vital to health. In Fiji Rotary New Zealand have been targeting 22 communities that are experiencing severe hardship mainly because they don’t have access to clean water for their drinking, cleaning and cooking needs....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Work & Income shooting a Tragedy
    Kay Brereton speaking on behalf of the National Beneficiary Advocacy Consultancy group says; “Two people shot and another wounded, this is a tragedy and our deepest sympathy goes out to the family and whanau of the victims, as well as...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • 1080 Poison Deer Repellent not Effective – Farmers
    Four deer have been found dead within a farmer's bush block, after an aerial 1080 poison drop applied with deer repellent. The drop was part of a 30,000 hectare drop across the Northern Pureora Forest Park....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Employment Charter will strengthen migrants’ rights
    Establishing an Employment Charter for construction companies is a critical step to strengthening the rights of migrant workers that are fast becoming the face of the Christchurch rebuild, according to an alliance of union groups. The charter has...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Global March For Elephants and Rhino
    It’s a trans-national business that funds terrorist organisations, fuels conflict in Africa, and poses environmental, development and security challenges. The illegal wildlife trade is also a lucrative business, generating an estimated USD$20 billion...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • New series of videos aimed at disengaged youth
    From the people who brought you 'NZ Idle' (NZ's favourite web series about an artist on the dole) comes a new series about election time: Choice Lolz....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Picket Of Leaders Christchurch Debate
    KEEP OUR ASSETS PICKET OF LEADERS CHRISTCHURCH DEBATE TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 2nd, 6 p.m. ST MARGARETS COLLEGE, SHREWSBURY STREET, MERIVALE...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
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