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Dear RadioNZ – the largest party does not necessarily win the election

Written By: - Date published: 9:06 am, February 3rd, 2014 - 149 comments
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Dear Radio New Zealand.

This morning on Morning Report your news presenter and Geoff Robinson keep saying that National may win the election but struggle to form a Government.  Please stop doing this because this comment does not reflect the political realities under MMP and it is not true.

National’s problem is that it is no mates National and this is why it is talking about again gifting Epsom to ACT, doing a deal with the Conservatives and why Key has resiled from his former “statement of principle” that Peters would not form a part of a Key led National Government.

The reality is that if Labour and the Greens get enough votes they will form the next Government.  It will not be “unfair” on National.  It will just mean that overall Kiwi’s votes favoured parties of the centre left.

There is no such thing as “winning the election” but “failing to form a government”.  Under the first past the post system you could argue this was the case but under MMP it is clearly not.

How about you adjust your thinking to “left block” verses “right block”.  This will provide a better understanding of current politics and show that things are incredibly close.

149 comments on “Dear RadioNZ – the largest party does not necessarily win the election”

  1. Naturesong 1

    Come on Mickey, New Zealand has only had MMP for 10 years.
    You can’t expect journalists to pick up the most basic tenants of our democracy overnight.

    • Lanthanide 1.1

      You really mean 20 years, right?

    • McFlock 1.2

      and, sorry to be pedantic, “tenet” not “tenant”.

      Doctrine, not renter

      • Naturesong 1.2.1

        Yes, was typed on my phone in haste as I rushed out the door this morning.
        While funny in my head, due to errors made during the act of publishing it ended up looking like a labour party policy release :oops:

  2. tricledrown 2

    We have had MMP for 18 odd years Now introduced in 1996.
    But RNZ just said that peters is the King maker.
    Radio live said not one person in a thousand surveyed ywould support ACT.

  3. Lanthanide 3

    I heard this as well and thought it was pretty shit from RNZ.

    I guess their definition of “win the election” is “largest vote share of any party”.

    Really I think “win the election” is form a government. A single party can be said to “win the election” if that single party gets enough seats to form the government.

    Otherwise no single party ever “wins the election”, rather a coalition does.

  4. Pete 4

    Yes, that made me splutter out my cornflakes too. It’s not exactly a matter of high nuance to distinguish between a left and right bloc with a few floating parties in between.

    • Anne 4.1

      It produced a few unladylike expletives from my mouth too. Beggars belief! But so much beggars belief these days I can only say thank God for The Standard. At least there is one place where normally reasonable people can vent their spleen in frustration. :)

      They look like a pack of hounds, they hunt like a pack of hounds and it seems they have the same number of brain cells as a pack of hounds.

      • greywarbler 4.1.1

        My son’s Labrador, a lovely bitch, has the thinking ability of a four year old he tells me. She is very focussed on food and sport – running, catching balls, swimming for instance, she likes regular drinks (water though) and is always watching for something interesting to happen and makes a lot of noise when it does. That very much parallels the average hack doesn’t it?

        • Anne 4.1.1.1

          I had a beautiful Golden Retriever whose behaviour pattern was identical. Mind you he was so friendly it occurred to me that instead of chasing burglars away he would have helped them in their task of removing my belongings – look over there… its a bran new TV and that’s a valuable coffee table. A tasty morsel of human food (meat pie was his favourite) would be all he would ask for in return. Fortunately it was never put to the test. Be assured Labradors and Golden Retrievers rate much higher on the doggie IQ scale than hounds.

        • Hami Shearlie 4.1.1.2

          The only difference is that your son’s labrador is very likely a loving and caring dawgson and probably tells it like it really is!!

  5. Skinny 5

    The election result won’t even be close. National scrapped in last time, the non voters from last time will show up at the polling booths in sufficient numbers to throw Key-National out. Mickey you need to start the narrative that A National Govenment will be unstable as both Key & English will be quitting politics during the next term should the unlikely win occur. The party will implode with infighting between Joyce, Collins and any other contender to the thrown, the infighting and back stabbing will make things very unstable.

    Just my thoughts brother.

    • Lanthanide 5.1

      Why would they quit during the term, rather than stand-down at the 2017 election?

      • Will@Welly 5.1.1

        Key is not a sticker. His ego will not let him hang around if he thinks he is on the way out.
        He’s got the money, he’ll get the title – I’m picking a June knighthood – then he’ll be off.
        The man’s got a massive ego. At that first debate, against Phil Goff, when Goff called a liar, he was absolutely “pissed”. Read the body language. The same in Parliament. That’s why he snipes, but doesn’t debate. He can’t.
        He will not fall on his sword, he will just go.

  6. Ron 6

    It worries me that Labour as the other major party in New Zealand cannot seem to get out of the low 30’s percent wise. It seems that they are either not doing something right or they are not communicating what they are doing to the rest of New Zealand. With around 9 months to go to election I hope that their game picks up pretty soon.

    • mickysavage 6.1

      Why is that Ron? What it really reflects is that the Greens have performed well and have a coherent policy platform and a committed membership. I do not see this changing. The right has no equivalent and this is why National’s vote is so much larger than Labour’s vote.

      • One Anonymous Knucklehead 6.1.1

        There’s another reason for that MS. National never release policy details, and their ad-hoc approach indicates they don’t really stand for anything. But they have a nicely crafted image that they spend lots of money on.

      • Ron 6.1.2

        I think it is not just that simple. I attended a Chinese New Year celebration on Saturday and there was little evidence that Labour was in an election year. Yes it is a National area but the Mayor of Auckland attended, two Labour list Mp’s attended and that was it plus myself and a few supporters. Also attending was the Chinese Consul General and the Chinese Cutural Attache so no small event. On National’s side were the PM, all the National electorate MP’s hordes of young supporters primed to cheer at every opportunity if Key just opened his mouth, and heaps of blue bunting, balloons, flyers etc etc.
        If the Prime Minister can attend a celebration at which several approx 500 Asian electors attended then Labour should have had a senior MP preferably the Leader of Labour there. Not just leave it to a couple of list MP’s who represent that electorate anyway. I understand that Asian voting public is around 12% for Auckland which means that it will play a large part in deciding some electorates.
        Labour needs to be working within the Asian communities to ensure that our message is available to them.

        • Colonial Viper 6.1.2.1

          National is really good at this shit. Asian support, Asian donors, Asian business deals. A “virtuous” cycle.

          • SHG (not Colonial Viper) 6.1.2.1.1

            National is really good at this shit.

            Politics, you mean?

          • Ron 6.1.2.1.2

            It seems that that a significant number of Act & National people are married to Asian woman. That in itself is an interesting psychological problem. It does suggest a certain type of male though.

            • SHG (not Colonial Viper) 6.1.2.1.2.1

              It seems that that a significant number of Act & National people are married to Asian woman. That in itself is an interesting psychological problem.

              #wtf #racism

              • Ron

                No not racism I was more interested why so many right wing politicians are attracted to Asian women. Certainly no reason why not, but I have a feeling it is more concerned with how right wing men see women and their expected role in life.
                Could be wrong it would need someone smarter than me to untangle it

                • tricledrown

                  Ron when you have collins tolley calvert parata its Enough to put you off kiwi women for life.

                  • Ron

                    Ha! I am a little more generous than that though I do wonder about right wing women as well.
                    It always seemed to me that National is fond of giving their women MP’s task that are hard and may well fail. Don’t want the men getting blamed, so give hot potatoes portfolios like Law & Order, Education and Welfare to the women. After all no loss if they get damaged we can always get Stephen etc to take over.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      It’s not so much the risk of failure as to why the NATs give the portfolios to women. It’s also to counter any gender based backlash from a male Minister making cuts to benefits like the DPB, introducing contraception for women, etc.

                      It’s quite clever, and it works.

                  • Tracey

                    Why the obsession with the women… key joyce and brownlee have made some nasty personal statements in their time

            • alwyn 6.1.2.1.2.2

              “An interesting psychological problem”
              And precisely what do you mean by that apart from the fact that you don’t like Asians?
              Are you scared of the “Yellow Peril” or something?
              Do you think that Europeans who marry Asians are crazy perhaps?
              Are you just one of Winston Peter’s racist followers?
              Terrified of mixing bloodlines and destroying the purity of the Aryan race?

              • Ron

                @alwyn
                No not scared of them I welcome them into our community. but see my answer to CV above.
                I think you should know a bit more a bout me before you run off like that.
                I don’t mind who mates with who but I do find it an interesting psychological trait of the far right men and that interests me.

                • alwyn

                  I suppose then that your amazement, at least as you seem to put it in these comments is that “right wing politicians are attracted to Asian women” and then that “ACT and National men are married to Asian women”.

                  I guess that you are a believer in the Len Brown line then. Do you think it is alright to have one as a mistress, but it is very strange that they should actually marry one. I suppose you even say things like “Some of my best friends are Asian”.
                  Your views, Ron, are quite despicable. Why don’t you stop digging yourself ever deeper into the s**t and keep your racist fantasies to yourself?

                  • Ron

                    I can only suppose that you are some sort of Right Wing supporter they way you are reacting but fair enough I will leave you to your political fantasies

            • Tracey 6.1.2.1.2.3

              Source?

              • alwyn

                Personally I can only think of two who qualified, but it isn’t something I went out of my way to bother about.
                Brash’s (current?/former?) wife and Hide’s previous wife are Asian. I have no idea where they are from.
                Both the politicians are, of course, long defunct.
                I thing Ron has problems and a fertile imagination myself. Too many war comics about the “Dirty Nips” in his childhood I suspect.

                • Tracey

                  I was trying to get rons source for what appears and outlandish statement with no foundation…

                  • alwyn

                    Yes, I know.
                    If you read what I have said on the subject I think you will see that I have been even harsher about his comments. They seem quite weird to me.
                    I’ll be amazed if you get any response from Ron though.
                    There, I bet you never thought we would be in quite such close agreement on anything did you?

                  • KJT

                    I may be wrong, but I think what Ron is getting at, is that authoritarian type, especially, “libertarian”, males go for women, who they perceive, come from a culture that expects women to be obedient and submissive.

                    Says something about how “libertarian” they really are..

                    • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                      Yeah, I think Ron is accusing right-wing men of being racist sexist authoritarian creeps, but I think left wing men have some issues on our side to deal with before we can start pointing the finger.

                    • You_Fool

                      It also shows that Ron ha no clue about “Asian” women and is showing a racist streak.

                      I am definite left wing supporter, am married to a Chinese lady and know for sure that our household is no bastion of male authoritarianism.

                      Really stupid generalisations are stupid made by stupid people

                    • KJT

                      The thing about generalisations is that they are true at least some of the time.

                      Agree though, that someone marrying an Asian woman, expecting obedience, is likely to get a shock.

                      A couple, I know very well, joke about it.

                      He says he “married a Chinese so she had to walk two steps behind”. She always says she “married a European so she wouldn’t have to”. :-)

          • Ron 6.1.2.1.3

            Well its about time Labour got its act together (excuse that pun) and worked in the Asian community. I know from pounding the streets around my electorates that majority of Asian people seem receptive to learning about Labour but we need to have policies that include them. A few elections back we had a large Filipino contingent in electorate that were very supportive of labour and in fact had a separate group within the party.
            Unfortunately times change and no one kept up contact and the group dissipated. The people are still there but the connection is lost.
            We need to connect with the Chinese/Korean/Japanese people and find out how we can better meet their needs. Failure to do this may well condemn the Auckland Electorates to other parties.
            Incidentally Key had memorised off a greeting in Mandarin which went down well with the audience. Len Brown actually gave a longer speech in Mandarin and I got the impression that it was not memorised so maybe he has taking the time to learn the language. If so good on him. I would expect all members of parliament to be able to converse in the language of our largest trading partner.
            Anyway
            Happy New Year
            马年大吉 Mǎnián dàjí!

            National is really good at this shit. Asian support, Asian donors, Asian business deals. A “virtuous” cycle.

            • mickysavage 6.1.2.1.3.1

              Thanks Ron and happy new year to you too. I see that you are a newish commenter. Don’t let the robustness of the comments put you off!

              • Ron

                @mickysavage
                Thanks for that I don’t mind robust discussion though I do find the right wing sycophants a little tiring. I do wonder why they spend so much time frequenting an obviously left leaning site. I guess its some form of guilt compensation for supporting the fascist rightwing politicians

                Thanks Ron and happy new year to you too. I see that you are a newish commenter. Don’t let the robustness of the comments put you off!

                • Anne

                  I do wonder why they spend so much time frequenting an obviously left leaning site.

                  Some of them are here Ron because they are told to come here. Take fisiani for instance. He told us yesterday morning the outcome of the TV3 poll. He wasn’t quite correct but not far out. Most people like me probably didn’t even know there was a poll to be released last night but fisiani knew, and he was given some figures from somewhere…

                • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                  They want better Lefties :lol:

        • Tracey 6.1.2.2

          Was jamie lee ross there?

    • Anne 6.2

      @ Ron.

      National and Labour parties are in different electoral circumstances. National is the only large political party of the Right so their supporters by and large have no choice but to tick National. Apart from one or two party tiddlers who are manipulated into positions of support for National, it’s a one party state on the Right.

      But on the Left you have two large political parties whose political agendas are closely intertwined. Together they form the major ‘political party’ of the Left. That gives centre Left and Left voters the choice of two political parties. Hence when talking of electoral support it’s not a case of ‘National versus Labour’ but… National versus Labour/Greens.

      Why these numbskulls in the media can’t get their heads around this reality I don’t know. Mind you rwnjs are just as bad so maybe that is where the answer lies.

      • Colonial Viper 6.2.1

        Maybe we should get the definitions a bit sharper and acknowledge that Labour is a party of the centre, not of the Left. When put that way, most Labour policies and positions make far more sense.

        • Ron 6.2.1.1

          Now is that Centre, Centre Left or Centre Right
          I don’t really like labels like that at all. National is fond of labeling itself as a Centre Right Government.
          Its no such thing its a Right Wing Government and they throw in the Centre bit to confuse the public into thinking they have some softer polices somewhere. They dont.
          If you want to re focus the labour party, change the name though I wish you luck with that we tried that once before. I agree a different name might well be more appealing to new immigrants and help them understand our party better but it would also cut adrift many people that want the name to reflect our core values.

          Maybe we should get the definitions a bit sharper and acknowledge that Labour is a party of the centre, not of the Left. When put that way, most Labour policies and positions make far more sense.

          • McFlock 6.2.1.1.1

            tend to agree.

            Labels are all well and good, but the main consideration for a party is “do we have good policies”, followed by “how do we show this to voters”.

            • Colonial Viper 6.2.1.1.1.1

              Except that’s not what National does.

              • McFlock

                Like many things, tories flip it around in a weird way:

                “do we have good policies for our rich mates”, followed by
                “how do we hide this from voters”.

                :)

                • Wayne

                  What hidden policies. They are all out there for everyone to see.

                  • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                    What hidden policy?

                    Here’s some.

                    Opposition MPs have accused the Government of undemocratic law-making after a controversial bill was passed without public input and with official advice heavily censored.

                  • McFlock

                    They haven’t exactly been explicit about the policy of “use welfare to subsidise cheap labour for corporates”. It’s been disguised as a living wage and decent conditions “will cost jobs and business

                    Punishing poor people who don’t pay fines if “tough on crime”, yet rich people who dodge taxes continue to get away with it.

                    That’s two quickly found on a hot day while “multitasking” at work. If you can’t figure out the rest, BLiP’s provided a starter pack

                    • srylands

                      If you have evidence that someone is not complying with tax law, you should bring that to the attention of IRD. New Zealand has a broad and efficient tax system. The (relatively) wealthy pay almost all the tax!

                      On your point about subsidising corporates, I don’t follow. Markets set wages. If society wants someone to have a higher income than determined by the Market, then that is best achieved via the welfare or tax system. That is what is happening here in New Zealand.

                      On the fines, I think the Government is planning to punish everyone who doesn’t pay them.

                    • McFlock

                      Even if I knew of and reported tax evasion as opposed to welfare fraud, the welfare fraudster is 4 times more likely to be improsines than the tax fraudster, even though on average they steal a quarter of the amount.

                      And in case you hadn’t noticed, government regulation sets minimum wages, because fuckwits like you would let people starve and then higher new workers when the old ones dropped dead. Although the minimum wage is not high enough to stop that, so it’s subsidised by benefits, rather than employers actually paying a living wage. And before you bring up unemployment increases as an excuse, that’s bullshit – ISTR treasury tried to argue that, but relied on youth unemployment staying at the same ratio of increasing unemployment during the Great Fucktardbanker Crash.

                      Poor people are the ones who have difficulty paying fines. If this govt wants revenue from crime, it should give the IRD even more resources to crack down on a multi-billion dollar annual problem, not a $50mil one.

                    • Sacha

                      “The (relatively) wealthy pay almost all the tax!”

                      Yawn. And they have almost all the income and wealth. Next.

                    • RedLogix

                      Or fuckwits like this Pat Pilcher who spend 90% of a column berating Labour for at least exploring ways to to crack down on massive corporate tax avoidance – while managing to say almost nothing about the crime itself.

                      By the time you get to the end of it he’s managed to convince himself that these ‘greedy corporates’ are doing us a favour just staying here in NZ.

                      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=11195012

                      At least the comment thread was worth reading.

                    • KJT

                      “The (relatively) wealthy pay almost all the tax!”

                      No, they don’t, actually. They may pay more, income tax. But, 60% of total tax, is paid by those around the middle of the income range.

                      The highest marginal rates, up to 85% are paid by those on welfare, trying to do the right thing, with some part time work.

                      Half of New Zealand’s rich list pay tax on a declared income of less than 70k a year. From the IRD’s own information.

                      It is only fair that those who benefit most from New Zealands tax funding and infrastructure, the wealthy, should pay the most for it.

                  • Tracey

                    Great. Which schools are getting the new principals? When are they getting them? What is the criteria for them and the other announced positions. Where will the relief teachers come from to cover the classes for them? So glad someone can shed light on this policy. Otherwise its just and airy fairy idea of something we thought about recently and have no idea if and how it will work.

                    Tia

            • Ron 6.2.1.1.1.2

              yes have good policies and to stick with them, not trot policies out for an election and then dump them once into power. In some ways the last Labour Government seemed to forget all its important policies once elected which was a pity. They had the chance to fix our news media and electricity marketing among other things and stuffed it up.

              Labels are all well and good, but the main consideration for a party is “do we have good policies”, followed by “how do we show this to voters”.

          • Colonial Viper 6.2.1.1.2

            Now is that Centre, Centre Left or Centre Right
            I don’t really like labels like that at all.

            If you view it as simply a “label” (i.e. relatively meaningless branding) of course there is nothing about it to be liked.

            However, I view the terms as being critical, even though they provide limited insight into the political economic philosophy of the party.

            I view Labour as a centre party because

            – It will apply some broad limits to the power of corporate and financial capital in order to prevent the most egregious excesses of capitalism and of the markets

            – It will ensure that workers benefit from some decent employment protections and receive a marginally livable income for the wage slavery that they undertake.

            – It has an awareness of social responsiblity to the worst off in society and will therefore take some actions to alleviate the suffering and lack of options experienced by some of them.

            • Ron 6.2.1.1.2.1

              I can agree with all that but just remember the Deutsche Zentrumspartei or Catholic Centre Party of the Weimar Republic, they showed no interest in anything but the protection of the Holy Father in Rome. And look at what that got us into
              I agree with McFlock earlier forget the Labels and have great policies that do all the things that you suggest. If after having good polices clearly explained the public still don’t elect us then maybe we are touting the wrong policies for the 21st century.

              • Colonial Viper

                The idea that political parties get elected mainly based on the policies and evidence that they present to the electorate is a completely false paradigm IMO.

                • McFlock

                  policies are more important than labels in an election.

                  If a party has shit policies, then it needs to lie or distract (or both. like the current govt).

                  If a party has good policies, it can concentrate on showing how those policies affect each voter.

                  Labels are slaves to a voter’s mistaken impression of what a label means.

                • Sacha

                  Sure is. Or rational economists would be right too.

          • SHG (not Colonial Viper) 6.2.1.1.3

            National is fond of labeling itself as a Centre Right Government.
            Its no such thing its a Right Wing Government

            Only by NZ standards. Anywhere else in the world it’d be described as centre-left.

            • Ron 6.2.1.1.3.1

              So John Key is using a different lexicon from every where else in the world. Why am I not surprised

              • Colonial Viper

                It’s exactly the kind of neocon/corporate/security state doublespeak we are very used to by now.

                You are not under surveillance just because all your electronic messages are being captured and stored; you are only under surveillance when someone decides to retrieve those messages and looks at them, etc.

              • SHG (not Colonial Viper)

                A government that legislates for same-sex marriage, that increases spending on education, that sets up social-welfare programs like the YEP and Whanau Ora (etc etc) is not “right-wing” in a sense that any other country in the world would understand. National under John Key would be described as “centre left” were it in just about any other country, and in some countries (e.g. the USA) National would be described as a party of rabid Marxist revolutionaries.

                National occupies the right side of the political spectrum in NZ because NZ is by its very nature a very socialist country. Our idea of “right” is pretty “left” by world standards.

                (Note: this is a good thing imho).

                • gem

                  New Zealand isn’t left-wing by international standards.
                  However, there’s a reason it’s not as right-wing as it would have been had the fervour of the 1980s and 1990s ‘reforms’ not been dialled back a bit: it has a tiny and spread out population, and is isolated from the rest of the world.
                  Its economy is a fraction of the size of other developed countries.
                  Government will always be crucial to provide services like tertiary healthcare in New Zealand.
                  Think of successful institutions/sectors in NZ, for example primary/secondary education, and Fonterra. These very different examples show that it’s where we pool resources that NZ can punch over its weight. It’s why the health sector is moving towards more collaboration between health boards; it helps the system cope with increasing subspecialisation.
                  Oh, and what about the plethora of federal and state tarifs/subsidies in the USA. So, on trade and industry, compared with the US, National party politicians could be described as ‘rabid Marxists revolutionaries’? Yeah, right.

                  • SHG (not Colonial Viper)

                    New Zealand isn’t left-wing by international standards.

                    Keep on telling yourself that.

          • Tim 6.2.1.1.4

            ….. change the name ….
            I agree. Until such time as certain of Labour’s politicians are prepared to atone for their hijacking of its principles (let’s put it in econo-speak so they get it going forward – “it’s fundamentals”) in the late ’80’s, they’ve no business using “Labour” as their “brand”. Big con, and all that! Not this election though – because if they don’t “win” this one in 2014 according to the RNZ definition, they’re a spent force destined to become a 3rd place party – IF that., and there’ll be a specific little cabal of careerist, self-interested, self-indulgent politicians people will be looking to blame.
            Mutate before the rush!

      • Bearded Git 6.2.2

        Anne-the media understands MMP. It’s just that Griffin and mates are telling Morning Report how to report this. Hence the “Polls show National will win election” line, which as we all know is complete bollocks.

        I would like to know exactly who sub-edited this morning’s news headlines and who else had input.

    • Rich 6.3

      They could form a government on 25% Lab, 25% Green.

  7. greywarbler 7

    I noticed that too. And thought there’s something I’m not sure about here. It doesn’t sound right, but I was doing something else and couldn’t get it straight in my mind.

    This could be the same process of non-thought that many listeners experienced. I do wish that we could get more accurate detail finely-honed, from well informed and widely experienced minds in what should be our most reliable news media, the public one, (which is safe from government machinations I mean).

  8. Bill 8

    I wouldn’t give a shit about their apparent inability to get a grip on the electoral system, if it wasn’t for the fact that many people identify with supposed winners and support/vote accordingly.

    • adam 8.1

      That’s the point – they are calling National the winner of the next election. Like using the polls to turn people off – keep saying Nation is NZ’s most popular party and people will believe it – The bigger the lie…

      • Bill 8.1.1

        Well, they are the most popular parliamentary party. But since mmp is about broader directions or leanings (call it left/right or whatever) as opposed to individual parties…

        • Colonial Viper 8.1.1.1

          The MSM know that if National is going to win this year, it will be the final 1% to 2% which makes the difference.

          The Left have to hit strong and hit hard and make sure that is well out of reach in the first half of the year, before the game tightens in the weeks leading to election day.

  9. fisiani 9

    National could get virtually one vote in two and yet a coalition of losers could form together and produce a sort of government. That sadly is the reality of MMP. The other reality of MMP is that a party who wins one seat gets 2 MP’s if that party can gain 1.2% of the vote. Thus if ACT, United Future and the Conservatives can each get at least 1.2% of the vote then 6 MP’s would be added to the National numbers should each of these three parties manage to win a seat. A party in such a position gaining 2.4% would have 4 MP’s and one gaining 4.8% would have 8 MP’s. If they reach 5% then there is no need to win a seat.
    This is a message that voters need to understand.

    • Lanthanide 9.1

      “National could get virtually one vote in two and yet a coalition of losers could form together and produce a sort of government.”

      ‘Cause winners are losers in fisiani’s world.

      • wtl 9.1.1

        He probably doesn’t even see the irony in his own suggestion – the greatest ‘losers’ with only ~1.2% end up in government anyway.

    • kenat 9.2

      What voters need to understand is that the coattail rule would be gone by now if the Nats had respected people’s views that came through loud and clear in the very well run MMP review process that the Nats set up themselves.

      People like MMP and have said so time and time again. They like that the govt that forms has majority support of the voters. They don’t like when this is prevented by electorate seat coattails and hopefully they will remember that the Nats have given voters the fingers in a bid to stay in power.

      • alwyn 9.2.1

        Get real. The only reason that the Labour Party and the Greens wanted to get rid of the coattail rule was that they realised that they were no longer going to get any advantage from it.
        Tell me again how they wanted to scrap it when Jim Anderton had a seat for the Alliance and therefore some coattails?
        Would you also explain how you come to the conclusion that “the people’s views came through loud and clear”? Did the traditional argument that “All the people I talk to agree with this” hold sway?

        • wtl 9.2.1.1

          Idiot. In case you don’t remember, we had an independent review of MMP carried out by the Electoral Commission that involved a large amount of public consultation. Here is the first recommendation from the final report:

          * The one electorate seat threshold for the allocation of list seats should be abolished.

          • alwyn 9.2.1.1.1

            So what? There were about 4,600 people who put forward ideas about anything to the first step and about 1,200 who commented on their proposals.
            This review, and the things it was going to cover, had very little interest shown compared to the original exercise by the group who came up with the original, and continuing, MMP arrangements.
            Have you ever heard of any of the people who are (were?) on this Electoral Commission by the way?

            • wtl 9.2.1.1.1.1

              Idiot squared. Don’t like the result of an independent review or public submissions? Ignore it and carry on making s**t up.

              Okay, so why don’t you put up or or shut up: Show us some concrete evidence NZ voters would prefer the coat-tail provision retained.

              ps. The Electoral Commission is the independent body that runs elections in NZ. I’m surprised you’ve never heard of them. Are you, perhaps, an Australian compatriot of srylands?

              • alwyn

                Yes my little twit. I know what the Electoral Commission is.
                Can you not read? I never asked whether you had heard of the Commission.
                I asked whether you had ever heard of the people who comprise the Commission.
                Could you name any of them without resorting to Google?
                Thought not.

                I don’t have to provide “some concrete evidence NZ voters would prefer the coat-tail provision retained”.
                The trivial number, about 1 per thousand New Zealanders, who made ANY sort of comment on the Review indicates that hardly anyone gave a damn.
                Why don’t you show me concrete evidence that a majority of New Zealanders wanted it changed? You do approve of democracy don’t you?

                • McFlock

                  by that logic, this government should never have changed anything

                  • alwyn

                    I didn’t think they had changed anything with regard to the electoral law. Presumably you know otherwise. I guess that illustrates how much notice I took of the review this time round.

                    • McFlock

                      by that logic, even if 100% of the population had made an identical submission to the MMP review, none of the recommendations should have been followed anyway.

                    • alwyn

                      That one has lost me. How do you get this out of what I said?

                    • McFlock

                      @3.45 you appeared to be arguing that no recommendations should be followed because there was very little interest.

                      I took this to be a variation of “moral mandate” not being achieved because a certain arbitrary level of “interest” had not been achieved, and applied “moral mandate” to the govt @6.08.

                      So @6.25 you went to what I took to be “no legal requirement” to change, which would still apply to the review recommendations even if 100% of the population had made a universal submission. I suppose you could have been distinguishing between review recommendations and the legislative powers of government, but that would simply be a variation of “I’m govt, I’ll do what I want”, which would be A)dickish; and B)completely remove any functional purpose for having the review in the first place

                • wtl

                  I asked whether you had ever heard of the people who comprise the Commission.

                  What a dumb question.Why would I need to know who works for the Electoral Commission? From my experience (and I’m sure many of those here will back me), the commission body runs elections in NZ in a fair and professional manner. Therefore, I trust the commission and have no doubt that they produced a thorough, independent, and professional report.

                  Why don’t you show me concrete evidence that a majority of New Zealanders wanted it changed?

                  I have provided concrete evidence that NZ voters want the provision changed – the MMP report. You might not like the what it says, but it is the best evidence we have. Just because you don’t like what it says doesn’t mean that you can just disregard it. On the other hand, you have absolutely NO evidence that NZ voters actually want to retain the coat-tail provision.

                  Simple logic says that we accept the evidence we do have, rather than just making up s**t because we don’t agree with it.

                  • alwyn

                    The people who wanted it changed are not people “who work for the electoral commission”, they ARE the Electoral Commission.
                    There names are, fyi
                    Sir Hugh Williams
                    Jane Huria
                    Robert Peden
                    The fact that they proposed changes to the coat-tail provisions is, at least in my view, NOT concrete evidence that “NZ voters wanted the provision changed”. It is their view, and as I said, do you know who any of them are?

                    I suspect, but admit I cannot prove, that there were more submissions proposing that a person who was defeated in an electorate contest, should be ineligble for a list seat. It is mad but a lot of people seemed to want that.

                    • wtl

                      1. The point is that the report is attributed to the Electoral Commission as a body, not individuals on the board themselves. That is, they are providing opinions on the basis of being part of the Electoral Commission, not as individuals (the two things are not the same, even though you seem to think they are).

                      2. The report is based on public submissions and expert evidence. On that basis, it can be assumed that any recommendations reflect the opinions of NZ voters. The number of submissions in support and against various proposals are also listed in the report (if you had bothered to read it). There are also figures giving the results of surveys for various provisions. For example:
                      – 77% of 2347 submissions supported abolition of the one seat provision, 17% said it should be retained; 52% of those surveyed said it should be abolished and 32% said it should be retained
                      – as for your point regarding “that there were more submissions proposing that a person who was defeated in an electorate contest, should be ineligble for a list seat”, this is probably covered by the dual candidacy provision in which 55% of 2505 submissions were favour of keeping dual candidacy and only 45 were against

                      3. You have already made up your mind on the issue, apparently because it benefits ‘your team’. I have provided evidence to support my view, you have provided none. Obviously, no amount of evidence will convince you, but others can make up their own mind.

                      4. The argument about what the majority of NZers want is a bit of a red herring. The main point is that this change was recommended by an independent review based on public submissions and expert evidence. Therefore, this is a good enough reason for me that we should support this change (and the other changes they recommended).

                      Finally, I will also state that I support all recommended changes being implemented even if it means that parties I support end up worse of because of it.

    • Is there a kind-hearted soul who could give poor fisiani a quick run-through of how democracy and parliaments work?

    • tricledrown 9.4

      Fishy you are dumb where are those votes coming from .

    • Wayne 9.5

      fisiani,

      It is not quite as simple as that.

      It depends on the amount of vote that goes to parties who don’t get into parliament. Also the MMP formula helps the very last list MP to get in on a smaller slice of vote than is applicable to the rest. So a second Act, Mana or UF MP might require as little as 1.2% of the vote for their party to get in, or as much as 1.6%. And of course they can’t all be the last list MP.

      So 4.8 % will not bring in 8 MP’s, and 2.4% will not bring in 4 MPs (but it would bring in 3).

      However, I can see that one MP might be the difference between which grouping is the govt or not.

      I would note that although the govt might seem to have only a one seat majority, because the Maori Party regularly votes against the govt, in truth they are stronger. That is because the Maori Party votes “yes” on confidence and supply. Therefore the govt is not really vulnerable to losing the Treasury benches before the election.

      But the next election might be different. It really might be a one seat margin on confidence and supply for whichever side wins.

  10. captain hook 10

    The problem with RadioNew Zealand is that they are 1) too cute for their own good, 2) think they know everything and 3) dont know when its time to fire anyone.
    They have a sense of entitlement and up themselves which is totally at odds with the service they deliver.
    They are worse boosters than the Steven Joyce Network and they play horrible music.
    Basically they are light on intellectual ability and heavy on hair and teeth.
    They have become like the cricket commentators with an is it or isnt it approach to anything obvious that happens and have lost the ability to offer any objective appraisal of reality.

  11. blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 11

    No-mates-National – who wudda thunk?

    After giving so generously to their small group of cronies too.

  12. ianmac 12

    It seemed that on Morning Report the Act party was given very friendly reception from interviewers. A party with 0% support gets all that? Wow. Wonder whether the Internet Party will get that much attention and support.

    • Tracey 12.1

      Or even the greens state of the nation speech

    • Anne 12.2

      Yes, my thoughts too ianmac.

      How come a party with 0.0% of the vote gets given equal publicity to Labour and the Greens. It reminds me of the climate deniers. 97% of the worlds scientists know Climate Change is becoming increasingly serious, yet the nutty 3% fringe element who are in denial get the same amount of publicity as the 97%. That’s not balanced reporting. It’s highly irresponsible reporting.

      • Mike S 12.2.1

        FFS can’t you leave climate change out of it! Nobody denies climate change, get your facts right.

        • greywarbler 12.2.1.1

          Mike s
          ‘Get your facts right’. There is a very vocal minority of people who deny climate change, and who get a lot of coverage in the media. The media are susceptible to big talkers when they have money behind them and will happily give them space. If that irritates you, don’t shoot the messenger when we point it out. Try coming here with something worthwhile to say.

        • Anne 12.2.1.2

          Pull your over egged horns in Mike S!

          If I want to make a valid comparison between the over-egged publicity given by the MSM to ACT and the equally over-egged publicity given to CC deniers, then I will do so whether you like it or not!

          Nobody denies CC he says. Good grief, where have you been hibernating for the past 20 odd years?

    • greywarbler 12.3

      What about the McGillikuddy Serious Party. I have been holding out for its return. Radionz should actively seek it out as its the most fun party in the whole slambang dunk of the lot.

      • Doug Mackie 12.3.1

        What makes you think we aren’t running the show right now? In 1996 we came in 9th of 22 registered parties and took 5990 party votes (0.29%) and 12,177 electoral votes (0.59%), substantially more than something called the NZ Conservative party in that election. Don’t remember much about them. Since we officially disbanded we have infiltrated all the other parties. Who else do you think writes their policy?

        • greywarbler 12.3.1.1

          Doug M.
          I’ve been searching for background on the southern tartan mafia. Is that you?

    • Mike S 12.4

      Yea, there were 3 or 4 largish stories / articles on the Act party in the Herald this morning. A huge amount of space in the countries largest newspaper for a party with virtually 0% support.

  13. blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 13

    I’m wondering about Winston Peter’s stance

    Reading his speech on the debate over the PM’s Statement it appears he is pushing for a leadership change in National – it appears the speech relays implicitly that getting rid of Key would be the first requirement for him going with National – However his speech is pretty damning of National’s antics – and it appears there would need to be a pretty big overhaul of the Nat party for him to be seriously going with them (i.e. English has been the finance minister ‘for too long’ – and all those main players for Nat’s [appalling] strategy would still be there).

    http://www.parliament.nz/en-nz/pb/debates/debates/50HansD_20140128_00000028/debate-on-prime-minister’s-statement
    [You have to scroll down to get to Mr Peter's speech]

    The way Mr Peters is scathing of this government makes me tend to view a boost in NZ First ratings, at this point, as an indication of conservative types hoping to influence the soon-to-be left-wing government – believing that Nat’s are going to lose . Obviously this is simply conjecture.

  14. newsense 14

    The end for RNZ as the place that got the facts right and the beginning of the place that got the facts ‘right’?

    • Ron 14.1

      What the heck can you expect from Radio NZ when the board and chair look very like a National Party Meeting

      • rod 14.1.1

        Ron + 100%

      • Anne 14.1.2

        Add the BSA to the board and chair of RNZ, and what chances has anyone got laying a complaint about the lack of balance or partisanship in political reporting within the media.

      • srylands 14.1.3

        You think RadioNZ is rightwing biased? Seriously?

        • RedLogix 14.1.3.1

          RNZ used to be fairly middle of the road until Dickhead Griffins was put in charge.

          PS. I have had numerous opportunities over the years to quietly observe said dickhead in action. He’s one of those two-faced people who know just how, when and with whom the game needs to be played.

          But surround him with ordinary folk who don’t count and his real colour shows.

          • Ron 14.1.3.1.1

            Regardless of Griffin’s management skills the real problem is that National can appoint people that go out and get the job done that National want. Labour seems to have so much trouble doing the same. I watched as Ian Fraser tried to effect Government Policy and had absolutely no chance in hell of making the changes. The line managers just refused to accept what they were asked to do and set about making it impossible to make the changes.
            Ian had good ideas and his attempt to introduce values led management was inspiring. Notice how quickly the whole values project were dumped once Ian was gone.
            Ian should have taken a leaf out of Nationals book and brought in a change manager and had a massive change of management down three – four levels.
            Then you might be able top appoint managers that would carry out company policy correctly.

            • greywarbler 14.1.3.1.1.1

              Ron
              Great point. In my social policy papers they taught that it can be hard to implement the actual law and intention that the government wishes. I think mainly because of the interpretation and methods used by the management and staff. So that change in direction may be stmied by that human failing, habit and resistance to new ideas in old staff, that is people who have been encultured by the present system.

              Actually we see this in the present Labour parliament and leading Party hierarchy Which might explain something about David C’s progress. Luckily he has been around for a while, been there, done that and presumably understands the psychology of it all. Otherwise that inertia from the group who want to keep their bums on their cumfy seats, and the same old fare with a bit of new salsa flavouing on it could wreck our hopes.

              There is a need to open a window to get the new fresh ideas flooding in. I don’t want to see us like a collective Miss Havisham from Great Expectations, sitting at the table with cobwebs over us waiting for the new life-changer that never arrived.
              Shattered hopes

  15. Tigger 15

    Our society tends to equate having the most with winning, and individual rather than collective success. Rich lists are full of people (men) with few families or groups.

    But you can bet if National could form a govt with a lower vote than Labour these outlets would change their tune…

  16. greywarbler 16

    While we are thinking about Radionz can anyone explain why we have to have USA football or gridiron or whatever the Superbowl they call it. Between 5 pm and 7 pm I turned the radio off for a while so I didn’t have to be bored again! But about every half an hour there was a report.
    about something from Seattle. I don’t bloody care and I don’t want to have it shoved at me on my country’s radio. There is a big world out there doing things, we don’t here about every footling sport that happens. If it is something that people here bet on they can listen to commercial radio.

    Personally I’d rather hear about the caber tossing in Scotland, or what used to be an annual polo match high in the Khyber Pass area – bet that’s off now the USA have democratised them. What is happening about the dog sled races they had in Alaska? Has the climate finished that. What about the cheetah racing in Africa, there probably is meerkat jumping somewhere, or the man-kite flying champs from any where high and dangerous enough.

    F..k the Super Bowl – do we have to be smothered in USA talk, it’s not even real news about the country. There are other things that would help us understand this giant but all we get is the latest shooting. And then they bring us live reports from the schools, we interview the district officials, the principals, the other children in the classroom. I don’t want to know about their tragedies, we have ones of our own!

  17. Yossarian 17

    In regards to Radio NZ’s latest faux pas & not being able to grapple with the concept of MMP.
    Perhaps Radio NZ has sub consciously forgotten whom they are actually there to represent and to be representative of, without fear or favour, on all news stories equally.
    To prevent any sub pavlovian behaviour from Radio NZ perhaps trying not to bite the hand that financlally feeds it, i.e : The Sitting Government of The Day
    a) A return to a public licensing fee system?
    b) To be encapsulated in law as a trust, therefore beholding to no one or other legal pathways?
    c) Mix of a)&b) plus a lump sum from Govt to meet any shortfall?
    d) Any other suggestions?
    e) Also cutting the over exposure of certain “Not News” items frm the fringes ie: Some of The over represented, Uber Greens “Stories/News” that are aired. semi jk.

    Perhaps some of the above would sharpen Radio New Zealand’s game?

  18. Sacha 18

    Someone please complain officially about this to RadioNZ and then whoever regulates them. So tired of hacks who haven’t adjusted to MMP’s existence after 18 years. Fire them.

  19. tricledrown 19

    SHGis that’s’s what’d we have the worst child poverty stats other than the US.
    We also have got one of the highest income disparities well.
    Most expensive housing costs.
    Rapidly declining education standard under your Right Wing National Govt.

  20. captain hook 20

    at this very moment RNZ are trying desperately to be politically correct by injecting faux Maori locutions and attempting to differentiate themselves by adopting weird pronunciations of everyday words. these schoolyard tricks are just a diversion from the fact that they really cant do their job properly.

    • greywarbler 20.1

      captain hook and sacha
      Don’t be too critical, if you pile it too high there is the possibility that the RWNJ will use it as an excuse to restructure the present RadioNZ that you say can’t do its job properly. They actually try, with probably budget constraints preventing actions they wish.

      If you have criticisms, write direct to the most appropriate department on their Contact page. Or we might end up with dross instead of gold, which it tries for though perhaps going to bronze at times, but it’s not the fool’s gold you portray.

  21. One Anonymous Knucklehead 21

    Missed opportunity in the headline: “The largest minority does not necessarily win the election.”

  22. captain hook 22

    Kathry Ryan is fundamentally dishonest anyway. She is a constant user of interrogatvies which are dishonest, disrespectful and an invalid mode of argument. Dishonest because they ask for agreement before the other has had time to consider the evidence or any counter arguments, disrespectful because you are being asked to agree with someone and invalid because they are an argument from authority. Ryan may she think she is incisive but her schtick is just this side of hectoring and bullying.
    When the person themself is dishonest then it is hard to see how any other feature of their programme has any integrity either.

  23. greywarbler 23

    captain hook
    You say Ryan is a “user of interrogatives (fify) which are dishonest, disrespectful and an invalid mode of argument” and “her schtick is just this side of hectoring and bullying.”

    Well, funny that. Your tone of criticism seems to parallel the above. If you listen to Checkpoint at night, Mary Wilson can be the same. Jane Clifton from NZ Listener of 12/Nov/2005 says about Wilson that she can be “grotesquely querulous”. No doubt this thought popped in to her head after hearing Mary Wilson pursuing some point she wanted elucidated, unimportant in itself, but a determined effort to pin down the flighty facts of her interviewee.

    All this come from attempts by the interviewers to find out what is going on. That can’t be wrong can it cap’n? We actually want to know. So don’t make them walk the plank cap’n. Is it that they are women, you think you could do better, you teach a class on the right and true way to do interviews and conduct arguments, or the theory and practice don’t match.

    These people are better than 90% of the other talking heads so give them a break.

  24. DS 24

    The “largest party” nonsense needs to be attacked. Hard.

    Incidentally, even under FPP you had examples of the biggest single party not governing: 1911 was won by the Liberals, with fewer seats than Reform (the resulting Government was propped up by independents for a few months, before losing a vote of no-confidence). 1928 had Reform and United tied on seats, though Reform got more votes. Labour played kingmaker, and backed United.

    If you extend it to “most popular party”, rather than seat totals, there is also 1978 and 1981: Labour get the most votes, and loses the election. It also almost happened in 1954 (Labour comes within a thousand votes nationwide, but loses by a dozen seats), and 1957 (Labour win by just two seats, despite winning nationwide vote comprehensively).

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    Bat bean beam | 20-10
  • I quite like beer, the rugby no so much
    Phil Quin put a post up yesterday chiding Grant Robertson for what he sees as an overly cautious approach to political messaging and urging him to be more warlike in his phraseology because New Zealanders clearly have a deep, deep...
    Pundit | 20-10
  • Speech from the Throne: State Opening of Parliament, 21 Oct
    Speech – Governor General Following the General Election, a National-led Government has been formed with a majority in the House on confidence and supply. Confidence and supply agreements have been signed between the National Party and, respectively, the ACT Party...
    Its our future | 20-10
  • Gordon Campbell on the latest TPP leaks
    Column – Gordon Campbell The release by Julian Assange on Wikileaks of the draft Trands Pacific Partnership chapter on intellectual property including drug patents – contains some pretty disturbing evidence about whats still on the table.Gordon Campbell on the latest...
    Its our future | 20-10
  • United Nations: friend or foe?
    Many well-intentioned people still see the United Nations as some kind of alternative to imperialism. Below we’re reprinting an article that first appeared in issue #2 of MidEast Solidarity (Autumn 2002), the Middle East bulletin of revolution magazine. The anti-imperialist...
    Redline | 20-10
  • United Nations: friend or foe?
    Many well-intentioned people still see the United Nations as some kind of alternative to imperialism. Below we’re reprinting an article that first appeared in issue #2 of MidEast Solidarity (Autumn 2002), the Middle East bulletin of revolution magazine. The anti-imperialist...
    Redline | 20-10
  • Every day’s a rainy day
    Sarah’s cat, Carina *nb* This is a repost from Sarah’s site writehanded.org. This week, my best friend – otherwise known as a slightly rotund adopted moggy called Carina – decided that she would enjoy no less than three visits to...
    On the Left | 20-10
  • 10 Key Facts about Labour’s Leadership Election
    Plans are proceeding for the Leadership Election, and at this stage I thought it might be useful to have a heads-up on some of the key aspects from the perspective of members:...
    Labour campaign | 20-10
  • SellShed shedding money?
    This is not how you are meant to do it: Online seller SellShed starts up The seven-person firm has invested hundreds of thousands of dollars building a website and free iPhone app and was now on the hunt for “smart...
    Lance Wiggs | 20-10
  • John Key on Iraq: A timeline
    No New Zealand forces to Iraq, says Key. Stuff, 18 June 2014: Prime Minister John Key has ruled out sending special forces soldiers to Iraq as the United States mulls options in response to the unfolding crisis there. Speaking in...
    No Right Turn | 20-10
  • New Fisk
    With US-led strikes on Isis intensifying, it’s a good time to be a shareholder in the merchants of death...
    No Right Turn | 20-10
  • Carbon News 20/10/14: Chile’s carbon tax, soil SOS and more pressure on d...
    Chile’s new tax could open carbon doors for NZ Chile’s new carbon tax potentially offers New Zealand an opportunity to offset some of its own agricultural greenhouse gas emissions, says economist Dr Suzi Kerr. The $US5-a-tonne carbon tax slipped into...
    Hot Topic | 20-10
  • National doesn’t care about crime by the rich
    National likes to make a lot of noise about benefit fraud. Meanwhile, they've buried a report into the social costs of economic crime:At the beginning of last year the then Minister for the SFO, Anne Tolley, was reported as saying...
    No Right Turn | 20-10
  • New kiwi blog
    On The Left - a collective of lefties....
    No Right Turn | 20-10
  • Habemus Parliament
    So, a month after the election, we finally have a Parliament. Good. meanwhile, people seem to be noticing that the associated ceremony - white wigs, fancy dress, oaths of allegiance to a foreign monarch - isn't very kiwi (and tomorrow,...
    No Right Turn | 20-10
  • Damning report on Ruataniwha dam numbers
    When I presented my submission to the Board of Inquiry on the Tukituki Catchment Proposal I compared the proposed 83 metre high Ruataniwha dam with the Clyde Dam and noted the risk of cost blowouts in the construction process.  The...
    frogblog | 20-10
  • NZ elite win seat at UN Security Council – don’t celebrate, organise!
    Among its past services at the top table of the UN, New Zealand chaired the sanctions committee on Iraq; their sanctions killed at least a million Iraqis, half of them children by Philip Ferguson The New Zealand elite is slapping...
    Redline | 20-10
  • NZ elite win seat at UN Security Council – don’t celebrate, organise!
    Among its past services at the top table of the UN, New Zealand chaired the sanctions committee on Iraq; their sanctions killed at least a million Iraqis, half of them children by Philip Ferguson The New Zealand elite is slapping...
    Redline | 20-10
  • A mighty totara has fallen across the Tasman
    The New Zealand Labour Party expresses deep sadness at the death of former Australian prime minister Gough Whitlam, aged 98. “Today a great totara has fallen across the Tasman,” Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says....
    Labour | 21-10
  • Note to National: Must deliver on child poverty
    John Key and his Government will be held to its promise to make child poverty a priority, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “In its priority-setting speech today the Government stated child poverty would be a major focus for...
    Labour | 21-10
  • New Analysis show Government cut tertiary education funding
    New analysis done by the Green Party today shows the Government has made cuts to funding of tertiary education since 2008.Figures compiled by the Parliamentary Library show that between 2009 and 2015 Government funding to Tertiary Institutions dropped by 4...
    Greens | 21-10
  • Students doing it tough as fees rise again
    The Government is making it increasingly difficult for Kiwis to gain tertiary education as fees continue to rise and access to student support becomes even more restricted, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Steven Joyce is shutting a generation...
    Labour | 20-10
  • Key misled New Zealand on Iraq deployment
      John Key was misleading New Zealanders prior to the election when he ruled out New Zealand special forces being deployed to Iraq, says Labour Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff.  “Post-election he has cynically disregarded that by saying that deployment of...
    Labour | 20-10
  • Swearing about swearing the oath
    Yesterday, I was swearing. Swearing the Parliamentary oath, that is. But, under my breath, I was also quietly swearing about the archaic, colonial form of that oath and its inappropriateness for today’s Aotearoa New Zealand. To be permitted to speak...
    Greens | 20-10
  • Damning report on Ruataniwha dam numbers
    When I presented my submission to the Board of Inquiry on the Tukituki Catchment Proposal I compared the proposed 83 metre high Ruataniwha dam with the Clyde Dam and noted the risk of cost blowouts in the construction process.  The...
    Greens | 20-10
  • Church congratulated on child poverty stand
    The efforts by the bishops of the Anglican Church to ensure that the issue of child poverty is not forgotten is a call to all New Zealanders to take action, says Labour’s Interfaith-Dialogue Spokesperson, Su’a William Sio.   “I think...
    Labour | 19-10
  • Labour names Review Team
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has appointed Bryan Gould as Convenor of its post-General Election Review.  He will be joined on the Review Team by Hon Margaret Wilson, Stacey Morrison and Brian Corban (see further biographical details here). The Review Team...
    Labour | 19-10
  • Labour backs urban development plans
    Auckland Council’s plan to set up an urban development agency is to be applauded and central government should get behind it to make it a success, Labour’s Auckland Issues spokesperson Phil Twyford says. Auckland Council CEO Stephen Town has indicated plans...
    Labour | 18-10
  • New Zealand can be rightly proud of seat on Security Council
    Gaining a seat on the United Nation’s Security Council shows the sort of standing that New Zealand has in the world and the quality of the long campaign that we ran over nearly a decade, says Foreign Affairs spokesperson David...
    Labour | 16-10
  • NZ has opportunity on UN Security Council
    New Zealand has an opportunity to make a major contribution to the strengthening of international law and institutional capacity through its upcoming two-year tenure on the United Nations Security Council, Green Party spokesperson on global affairs, Dr Kennedy Graham said...
    Greens | 16-10
  • MPI still dragging the chain over causes of food bug
    The Ministry of Primary Industries’ release of Environmental Science and Research’s initial reports regarding the sources of a nasty stomach bug will be little comfort to the 127 people affected by it, Labour’s Food Safety spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “This...
    Labour | 16-10
  • Treasury officials should try working without food
    The Green Party is challenging Treasury officials to work for a week without eating properly, in light of their advice to Government that a food in schools programme is not needed."Treasury's advice was that providing food for children in schools...
    Greens | 15-10
  • Councils need to better protect our drinking water
    Environment Canterbury (ECan) is proposing several variations to its regional land and water plan that will allow for increased nutrient and other pollution from irrigation and intensive agriculture on the Canterbury Plains. Commissioners are hearing submissions on Variation 1 to...
    Greens | 15-10
  • National needs to commit to making NZ workers safe
    The National Government must do more to help make New Zealand workplaces a safer place to work in, Green Party industrial relations spokesperson Denise Roche said today.Data released by Statistics New Zealand today showed that workers in the fishing and...
    Greens | 15-10
  • Key commits to deployment before consultation or analysis
    John Key’s offer to consult Opposition parties on whether to deploy New Zealand forces against ISIS looks increasingly like a PR exercise only, says Labour’s Defence spokesperson, Phil Goff. “The presence of New Zealand’s Chief of Defence Force at a...
    Labour | 15-10
  • National must end ideological opposition to raising income
    If John Key is serious about tackling child poverty he must approach it with an open mind, and overcome his ideological block to raising incomes as a solution, the Green Party said today.Papers released to Radio New Zealand today show...
    Greens | 14-10
  • Pentagon links climate change and terrorism
    Yesterday the Pentagon launched a plan to deal with a threat that “poses immediate risks to national security”; one that “will affect the Department of Defense’s ability to defend the nation”. It wasn’t referring to Ebola or ISIS. It was...
    Greens | 14-10
  • Four Nominees for Labour’s Leadership
    As at 5pm today four valid nominations had been received for the position of Labour Leader, as follows: Andrew Little(nominated by Poto Williams and Iain Lees-Galloway) Nanaia Mahuta(nominated by Louisa Wall and Su’a William Sio) David Parker(nominated by Damien O’Connor...
    Labour | 14-10
  • Green Party calls for consultation over terrorism law changes
    The Green Party has today written to the Prime Minister asking him to engage in wider consultation prior to changing any laws as a result of the recently announced terrorism law reviews, said the Green Party today. In a letter...
    Greens | 14-10
  • MPI must name product and supermarket chain
    The Ministry of Primary Industries must name the product responsible for severe gastroenteritis affecting people around the country, and the supermarket chain distributing it, Labour’s Food Safety spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “The Ministry seems to be more concerned about protecting...
    Labour | 13-10
  • John Key dishonest about reasons for wanting to change terrorism law
    John Key is misleading the public to push through terrorism law changes under urgency, the Green Party said today. On Sunday, John Key stated that it is not illegal for someone to fight overseas for a terrorist group, such as...
    Greens | 12-10
  • Law changes shaping up to be worse than first thought
    The Prime Minister needs to be up front about exactly what changes he is planning to make to the Employment Relations  Amendment Bill, Labour's spokesperson on Labour Issues Andrew Little says.Interviewed on Q&A yesterday John Key said he did not...
    Labour | 12-10
  • Rapists, not Tinder, the threat to women
    Blame for rape and sexual assault should only ever be laid at the door of the perpetrator, not dating services or the actions of women themselves, Labour’s Associate Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. “Tinder is not the problem and women...
    Labour | 09-10
  • Safer Journeys For People Who Cycle
    You have a rare opportunity to tell the people who are making the decisions on cycling how to make it better. The Cycling Safety Panel is seeking feedback on their draft recommendations for improving the safety of cycling in New...
    Greens | 08-10
  • Subsidising more pollution will undermine water clean-up plan at Te Waihora...
    In 2010, NIWA found Canterbury’s Te Waihora/Lake Ellesmere had the worst nutrient status of 140 lakes around New Zealand that it measured. In 2011, the National Government committed to spending $15 million across the country through the Fresh Start for...
    Greens | 08-10
  • Adding value not herbicides
    The HT swedes, and other brassicas, might seem like a good idea to farmers struggling against weeds but like the GE road, is this the path we want our agriculture to be treading? The Federated Farmers President, Dr William Rolleston...
    Greens | 07-10
  • ‘Blame the Planner’ bizarre approach to child poverty
    The National Government is stooping to a bizarre new low in blaming "planning processes" for poverty and inequality, after spending six years doing nothing about either the housing market or child poverty, the Green Party said today. Finance Minister Bill...
    Greens | 07-10
  • Media Advisory
    MANA Leader, Hone Harawira will not be available to speak with media today regarding his release “Recount Just One Step To restoring Credibility”. He is however available for media comment tomorrow, Tuesday the 8th of October, all media arrangements are...
    Mana | 07-10
  • RECOUNT JUST ONE STEP TO RESTORING CREDIBILITY
    “I have applied for a judicial recount of the votes in the Tai Tokerau election because it is one step in trying to restore credibility to the electoral process in the north, and, I suspect, in all other Maori electorates...
    Mana | 07-10
  • MANA SEEKS TAI TOKERAU RECOUNT
    The MANA Movement is supporting Leader Hone Harawira’s application for a judicial re-count in the Te Tai Tokerau electorate for the 2014 general election. President Lisa McNab says there are a number of serious issues of concern regarding the ability...
    Mana | 07-10
  • MANA to fight mass privatisation of state housing
    Announcements over the past 12 hours from the Minister responsible for Housing New Zealand, Bill English, and Minister for Social Housing, Paula Bennett, make clear the government’s intention for the mass privatisation of state housing. This comes during the middle...
    Mana | 07-10
  • Journalists have right to protect sources
    Legal authorities must respect the right of journalist Nicky Hager to protect the source of his material for his Dirty Politics book under Section 68 of the Evidence Act, Acting Labour Leader David Parker says. “It is crucial in an...
    Labour | 06-10
  • It shouldn’t take the Army to house the homeless
    National’s move to speed up its state house sell-off shows it is bankrupt of new ideas, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “National has been in office for six years, yet the housing crisis has got worse every month and...
    Labour | 06-10
  • Government must lift social housing supply, not shuffle the deck chairs
    National's decision to shift the state provision of housing to third parties is a smokescreen for the Government decreasing the provision of affordable housing, the Green Party said today."What National should be doing is increasing the supply of both social...
    Greens | 06-10
  • Election 2014 – the final count
    While we have to wait for the final booth level counts we can now see how well we did in the specials and look at electorate level data. First off special votes (and disallowed/recounted votes etc). There was a change...
    Greens | 06-10
  • We need more houses, not Ministers
    The Government’s decision to have three housing Ministers will create a dog’s breakfast of the portfolio and doesn’t bode well for fixing the country’s housing crisis, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “New Zealanders need more houses, not more Ministers....
    Labour | 05-10
  • MANA’S CHALLENGE TO THE 51st PARLIAMENT
    Ten years ago I led 50,000 Maori on the historic FORESHORE AND SEABED MARCH from Te Rerenga Wairua to the very steps of this parliament, in a march against the greatest land grab in the history of this country –...
    Mana | 03-10
  • Is this really necessary?
    No one denies chief executives should be well paid for their skills and experience, but it is the efforts of all employees which contribute to company profits, Labour’s Acting Leader David Parker says. “Salaries paid to chief executives come at...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Lyttelton Port workers also deserve pay rises
    Hard slog by Lyttelton Port workers contributed to strong financial growth for the company and they deserve to be rewarded for their work as much as its chief executive, says Labour’s Acting Leader David Parker. “Lyttelton Port chief executive Peter...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Māori Party must seek guarantees on Māori seats
    Labour is calling on the Māori Party to ensure protection of the Māori seats is part of its coalition deal with National which is being considering this weekend, Labour’s Māori Affairs spokesperson Nanaia Mahuta says. “For the third consecutive term,...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Donaghys job losses another blow to Dunedin
    The loss of 30 jobs from Donaghys rope and twine factory is yet another blow to the people and economy of Dunedin, says Dunedin South Labour MP Clare Curran. “Donaghys was founded in 1876; the company has survived two world...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Dairy price fall shows urgent need to diversify
    The overnight drop in milk prices shows New Zealand’s overreliance on the dairy industry puts our economy in a vulnerable position, says Acting Labour Leader David Parker. “Dairy prices fell 7.3 per cent overnight and have almost halved since February....
    Labour | 02-10
  • Tasks aplenty for new Health Minister
    One of the first jobs for the new Minister of Health must be to provide an honest and transparent report into surgery waiting times and exactly how many Kiwis are not having their health needs met, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette...
    Labour | 02-10
  • OIA protocols and official advice ignored to hide Child Poverty
    It might not seem so now, but child poverty was a major election issue. What a pity we did not have the full debate. In that debate it would have been very helpful to have seen the Ministry of Social...
    The Daily Blog | 20-10
  • Previewing the 4 candidates for Leader of the Labour Party
    The extraordinary outbursts by Shearer last week highlights just how toxic that Caucus is. Shearer was on every major media platform as the ABC attack dog tearing into Cunliffe in the hope of diminishing Cunliffe’s support of Little by tearing...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – the sudden explosion of ‘left’ blogs
    Time to Teach or more people will suffer from P.A.I.D. Political And Intellectual Dysmorphia.I was on the Twitter and a guy followed me so of course I did the polite thing and followed him back. He wrote a blog so...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Ego vs Eco
    Ego vs Eco...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • We can’t let the Roastbuster case slip away
    Those of us (like me) left with hope that the police would aggressively follow through on the large amount of evidence on offer to them (let’s not forget they forgot they even had some at one point) in the Roastbusters...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Food, shelter and medicine instead of bombs and bullets
    The on-going conflict across the Middle East – due in large part to the US-led invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq – has created another humanitarian crisis of biblical proportion. The essentials of life are desperately needed in Iraq and Syria...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • The politics of electorate accommodations
    National’s electorate accommodations with ACT and United Future were a big factor in it winning re-election. Interestingly, there is another electorate accommodation scenario whereby the centre-left could have come out on top, even with the same distribution of party votes....
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Why you should join the TPPA Action on 8 November
    On 8 November 2014, thousands of Kiwis will take part in the International Day of Action to protest the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA). The rally cry for us is TPPA – Corporate Trap, Kiwis Fight Back. Why should you join...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • GUEST BLOG – Patrick O’Dea: no new coal mines
    Green Party and Mana Party policy is “NO NEW COAL MINES!” Auckland Coal Action is trying to put this policy into action on the ground. ACA after a hard fought two year campaign waged alongside local residents and Iwi, in...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Comparing Police action – Hager raid vs Roast Buster case
    This satire had the NZ Police contact TDB and threaten us with 6months in prison for using their logo.   The plight of Nicky Hager and the draconian Police actions against him has generated over  $53 000 in donations so...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • Malala Yousafzai, White Saviour Complexes and Local Resistance
    Last week, Malala Yousafzai was the co-recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize. Since her exposure to the worldwide spotlight, her spirit, wisdom and strength have touched the hearts of people everywhere. However, there have been cynics who have argued that...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • Jason Ede is back – but no media can interview him?
    Well, well, well. Jason Ede, the main figure connected to John Key’s office and the Dirty Politics black ops is back with a company with deep ties to the National Party. One thing you can say about the right –...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Leadership Transitions In Other Parties: A ...
    As cannot have escaped anyone’s attention by now, the country is presently in the grips of an election and campaign that will help determine the fate of the nation for years to come. It’s gripping stuff – with clear divides...
    The Daily Blog | 17-10
  • SkyCity worker says she faces losing her house
    SkyCity worker Carolyn Alpine told the company annual shareholder’s meeting today that she faced the prospect of losing her house because the company had cut her shifts from two a week to one without consultation. The solo mother, has worked...
    The Daily Blog | 17-10
  • Greg O’Connor’s latest push to arm cops & 5 reasons not to
    I was wondering at what point within a 3rd term of National that Police Cheerleader Greg O’Connor would start trying to demand cops be armed. O’Connor must have thought to himself, ‘if bloody Key can get us and the GCSB vast new...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • You can’t have crisis without ISIS
    So the new scary bogeyman ISIS might have chemical weapons that the US secretly found in Iraq, but America didn’t want to expose this find because the WMDs were actually built and made by the US and Europe, the two powers...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • NZ WINS UN SPIN THE BOTTLE! Privately sucking up to America for a decade me...
    Oh, we are loved! Little old NZ, the 53rd state of America after Israel and Australia, gets to sit at the adults table for the special dinner party that is the UN Security Council. How delightful, a decade of privately...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • MEDIA BLOG – Myles Thomas – A World Without Advertising
    Non-commercial broadcasting and media. It’s a solution for all manner of problems ailing our tender nation… voter engagement, unaccountable governance, apathy, stupefaction, public education, science in schools, arts appreciation, cultural cringe… But no-one could’ve guessed that non-commercial media might solve...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • March against war – 2pm Saturday 25th October
    March against war – 2pm Saturday 25th October...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • Whack a mole as US govt foreign policy
    Whack-A-Mole was a popular arcade game from my youth.  It consisted of a waist high cabinet with holes in the top. Plastic moles seemingly randomly pop out of these holes. The purpose of the game was to hit as many...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • In Paean of Debt
    This week is ‘Money Week’. It’s an opportunity to promote to the middle classes, and anyone else who will listen, the virtues of wise ‘investment’. The aims are to promote the mystical (and indeed mythical) virtues of saving for the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • The last 48 hours – Poverty denial, war denial and unapologetic abuse of ...
    The bewildering speed of events that simply end in Key shrugging and proclaiming he doesn’t really give a shit is coming think and fast as the Government suddenly appreciate the full spectrum dominance they now enjoy. Here is Radio NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – Mana 2.0 Rebooted
    Internationally the news is that Evo Morales of Bolivia won big with Left Wing policies But what are the chances that the Left will make a resurgence in this country? As the internecine struggles between the Left and the Right...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • The Blomfield IPCA letter – Has Dirty Politics leaked into the NZ Police ...
    It’s difficult to know what to make of the IPCA letter to Matthew Blomfield over Slater’s continued insistence that the hard drive taken from Matthew wasn’t stolen.  Slater has selectively cherry picked the Police referring back to his claim that Blomfeild perjured...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • ​Media release: Rail and Maritime Transport Union – Auckland move for K...
    The Rail and Maritime Transport Union is questioning a KiwiRail proposal to progressively relocate its Zero Harm personnel from Wellington to Auckland. “The purpose of the Zero Harm team is to drive KiwiRail’s performance in health and safety.  Rail is a...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • Amnesty International – Friend request from an IS militant
    There’s always that one person, that one Facebook friend, usually a musician or event promoter, who, when you so foolishly accept their friend request, will completely inundate your news feed with copious event invitations and promotions. The person who, despite...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • NZ should follow the UK and recognize the Palestinian state
    Over the past two weeks, the United Kingdom and Sweden have made headlines through their decisions to recognize the state of Palestine. They are hardly the first nations to do so. Indeed, 134 countries have, in various ways, given formal...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • The Discordant Chimes of Freedom: Why Labour has yet to be forgiven.
    WHY DOES THE ELECTORATE routinely punish Labour and the Greens for their alleged “political correctness” but not National? It just doesn’t seem fair. Consider, for example, the Crimes (Substituted Section 59) Amendment Act 2007 – the so-called “anti-smacking legislation” –...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • Hosking or Henry – Which right wing crypto fascist clown do you want to w...
    So Mediaworks are finally going to make some actual money from their eye watering contract with Paul Henry by launching a new multi-platform Breakfast show over TV, Radio and internet. This is great news for Campbell Live who have dodged...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Families need more money to reduce child poverty
    Prime Minister John Key is mistaken to rule out extending the In Work Tax Credit to all poor children (The Nation 11th Oct) and Child Poverty Action Group challenges government advisors to come up with a more cost effective way...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – Don’t shit on my dream
    Once were dreamers. A large man, walks down the road and, even from 200 yards there’s light showing between his big arms and bigger body. It’s as if he’s put tennis balls under his arms. Two parking wardens walk out...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Labour and ‘special interests’
    The media narrative of Labour is that it is unpopular because it’s controlled by ‘special interests’. This ‘special interests’ garbage is code for gays, Maoris, wimin and unionists. We should show that argument the contempt it deserves. The next Labour...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Ru...
    . . Continued from: Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Tahi) . National’s housing development project: ‘Gateway’ to confusion . Perhaps nothing better illustrates National’s lack of a coherent housing programme than the ‘circus’ that is...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Here’s what WINZ are patronisingly saying to people on welfare when they ...
    Yesterday, a case manager from WINZ called to tell me that I needed to “imagine what I would do if I did not have welfare”. I replied “Well, I guess if I couldn’t live at home, I would be homeless.”...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • David Shearer’s ‘no feminist chicks’ mentality highlights all that is...
    Mr Nasty pays a visit Shearer’s extraordinary outburst last night on NZs favourite redneck TV, The Paul Henry Show, is a reminder of all that is wrong within the Labour Caucus right now… He said the current calls for a female or...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Greenpeace 1 – Shell 0
    Greenpeace 1 – Shell 0...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – A Tale Of Two Cities
    Sunday was surreal. I went for a drive and ended up in a different country. It wasn’t intentional but those days of too many literally intertextual references seldom are. There is no doubt that the Sunday drive this week had...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Key raises terror threat level to justify war in Iraq and now the SIS need ...
    Have we learned nothing from rushing into war? It’s embarrassing Key has raised our terror threat from ‘very low’ to ‘low’ so he can justify military action in Iraq. Watching him pimp for an American war is as sick as...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Socialism? in France; Austerity in Europe
    On Sunday I stumbled upon this recent New York Times column The Fall of France by Paul Krugman. Then I caught BBC’s Newsnight interview with France’s ‘Socialist’ Prime Minister Manuel Valls. Krugman notes that the Socialists came to power on an anti-austerity mandate, but completely squandered their opportunity...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • So Snowden and Greenwald were right – again – NZ Embassies spying for A...
    Well, well, well. What do we have here… NZ embassies involved in covert intelligence work for US – reportsNew Zealand’s embassies have been involved in covert intelligence gathering work on behalf of the United States, a fresh batch of classified...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Why David Parker *isn’t* a credible choic...
    The one electoral contest this year that a Labour leader is sure to win heated up over the weekend with the late entry of Finance Spokesman (and interim caretaker leader) David Parker into Labour’s leadership race. I’d blogged late last...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Fran O’Sullivan’s extraordinary column
    Note how the carefully constructed flow chart above ignores the mainstream media’s complicity with Slater and Dirty Politics    I am no fan of Fran O’Sullivan’s politics and would argue long into the day against her on many of the...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Final salute to Cunliffe
    Final salute to Cunliffe...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • David Cunliffe’s statement
    I am today announcing that I have decided not to nominate for the 2014 Labour Party leadership contest. It has been a hard decision to make but it is one that I believe is in the best interests of the...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Cunliffe to quit leadership race – the losers are the Labour Party member...
    That’s all folks   And so ends the first ever Labour Party member/affiliates choice for leadership. David Cunliffe is standing down at 2pm and is supporting Andrew Little instead. What a perverse turn of events. Cunliffe was punished by an angry Labour leadership forced...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Want to see new Nu Zilind? Read the comments section of Andrea Vance’s co...
    Andrea Vance is no stooge. She is one of the few mainstream media voices who has challenged power and authority, her latest column on the outrageous attempts by Key to use fear mongering to  spook the sleepy hobbits into war...
    The Daily Blog | 12-10
  • Humanity calling Government – anyone with empathy home?
    On Friday night groups of Invercargill activists and plain ole people who care took part in the 14 Hours Homeless event – sleeping out in the balmy southern climate on cardboard and couches at our Salvation Army Citadel. It’s a...
    The Daily Blog | 12-10
  • Labour, leadership and White blokes
    David Shearer said on TV3’s The Nation this weekend that he appreciated the support Labour’s received from Maori and Pacific communities over the last few elections, but that it was important to again, secure the votes of ordinary white blokes...
    The Daily Blog | 12-10
  • Wrong priorities in media coverage of Ebola crisis
    The experts have told us that there is very little likelihood of a serious Ebola outbreak in any Western nation – unless the virus changes so that it can be spread through the air rather than just via bodily fluids....
    The Daily Blog | 12-10
  • John Key uses the same old warmongering recipe
    Less than three weeks after the election Prime Minister John Key wants New Zealand to join a war in the Middle East and extend the powers of our US-focused spy agencies the SIS (Security Intelligence Service) and the GCSB (Government...
    The Daily Blog | 12-10
  • Speech from the Throne brings welcome focus on children
    Today’s speech from the Throne confirms the Government’s focus on children, youth and their families in the areas of health, education, youth employment, poverty alleviation and Whānau Ora; now the challenge is to ensure every child in New Zealand...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • John’s Job Fairs no fix for unemployment and poverty
    “John Key has clearly been looking to the US for his latest bright idea on dealing with employment issues,” says Auckland Action Against Poverty coordinator Sue Bradford. “Job fairs where the desperately unemployed queue in their corporate best to compete...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Speech From the Throne Foreshadows More Corporate Welfare
    Responding to the Governor General’s Speech from the Throne, which outlined that the Government’s intentions for the next Parliamentary term would include further Business Growth Agenda initiatives, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Green MP to speak at panel on Rainbow Mental Health
    Hamilton, New Zealand: Recently re-elected Green Party MP Jan Logie will be a guest speaker at a panel on the mental health of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Trangender, Takataapui and Intersex people taking place on November 1st as part of the...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Evidence Supports GE Moratorium
    Federated Farmers spokesman Graham Smith's call for a 'rethink' on release of GeneticallyEngineered organisms is misguided, and instead it is time for a formal moratorium on GMOs in the environment.(1)...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Chatham Rise mining could have impact on whales and dolphins
    Wellington, 21 October 2014--Mining phosphate on the Chatham Rise, off the east coast of New Zealand’s south island, could potentially have many impacts on marine mammals like whales and dolphins, the Environmental Protection Agency was told today....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Council endorses Nanaia Mahuta as the next Labour leader
    Te Kaunihera Māori, the Māori Council of the New Zealand Labour Party, have passed a resolution to endorse the Hon Nanaia Mahuta as the next leader of the Labour Party...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Kaumatua to organise petition to end Maori seats
    Ngapuhi kaumatua David Rankin has announced that he will be organising a nationwide petition to seek support from Maori voters to end the Maori seats. “These seats are patronising”, he says. “They imply we need a special status, and that...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Announcing a New Voice for The Left
    Josh Forman is pleased to announce the creation of a new force on the Left of politics in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Public services held back by poor workplace culture
    A new report by Victoria University’s Centre for Labour, Employment and Work shows that public servants are working significant unpaid overtime to ensure the public services New Zealanders value are able to continue....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • iPredict New Zealand Weekly Economic & Political Update
    Andrew Little’s probability of being the next leader of the Labour Party has reached 70% and Jacinda Ardern is favourite to become his deputy, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Prison Drug Treatment Unit marks a milestone
    Christchurch Men’s Prison’s Drug Treatment Unit (DTU) celebrated the completion of its 50th six month Drug and Alcohol Programme today, with the graduation of a further twelve offenders....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Security Council seat a chance for NZ to empower women
    The UN Women National Committee Aotearoa New Zealand (UN Women NCANZ) welcomes New Zealand winning a seat on the United Nations Security Council and is calling on New Zealand to use its position to proactively promote effective implementation of the...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Waipareira and ACC sign Partnership
    Waipareira and The Accident Compensation Corporation (ACC) have signed a Memorandum of Understanding at Whanau Centre, Henderson – marking a special day for the West Auckland Urban Maori organisation....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Humanitarian aid desperately needed in Iraq and Syria
    Global Peace and Justice Auckland is calling on the government to provide humanitarian funding for non-aligned NGOs (non-governmental organisations) in the Middle East rather than give any support whatever for the US-led military campaign in the area....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Court Judicial Decision: Dotcom v The USA: 17 October 2014
    The United States of America is seeking the extradition of Messrs Dotcom, Batato, Ortmann and Van Der Kolk. The matter has been before the Courts on numerous occasions, and no further recitation of the facts is needed....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Marshall Island poet speaks at UN climate summit
    “The fossil fuel industry is the biggest threat to our very existence as Pacific Islanders. We stand to lose our homes, our communities and our culture. But we are fighting back. This coming Friday thirty Pacific Climate Warriors, joined by...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Many tourist car accidents preventable
    Simple steps could dramatically reduce the number of accidents involving tourists, says the car review website dogandlemon.com ....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • RainbowYOUTH: 25 Years, 25 More
    In 1989, a group of young people in Auckland got together to form a support group for LGBTIQ youth. They called it Auckland Lesbian And Gay Youth (ALGY). After 25 years, several location changes, a name change, a brand reboot...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Outdated Oath shows need for Kiwi Head of State
    MPs are sworn in today and New Zealand Republic has written to MPs asking them to talk about why 121 New Zealanders elected by the people of New Zealand and standing in the New Zealand Parliament swear allegiance to another...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Council shouldn’t revenue grab from windfall valuations
    Auckland Council should state clearly they will not try and capture revenue as a result of the latest valuations and needs reminding that the City’s skyrocketing property values doesn’t change the level or cost of Council’s services, says...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • EPMU endorses Andrew Little for Labour leadership
    The National Executive of the Engineering, Printing and Manufacturing Union unanimously endorsed Andrew Little for the role of Labour leader, at a meeting held yesterday. “I have been speaking to our workplace delegates at forums across the country over...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • World Food Day promotes Agroecology not GE technology
    The UN has stated that agroecology is a major solution to feeding the world and caring for the earth....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Labour Names Review Team
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has appointed Bryan Gould as Convenor of its post-General Election Review. He will be joined on the Review Team by Hon Margaret Wilson, Stacey Morrison and Brian Corban....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Contenders for Labour leadership debate for first time
    The contenders for the leadership of the Labour Party debated for the first time on TV One’s Q+A programme today....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • UN Ambassador Jim McLay on TV One’s Q+A programme
    New Zealand's United Nations Ambassador Jim McLay on TV One’s Q+A programme....
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • The Nation: RSA President BJ Clark & Ian Taylor, New NZ Flag
    Lisa Owen interviews RSA President BJ Clark and tech innovator Ian Taylor about changing the NZ flag...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • The Nation: RSA President BJ Clark & Ian Taylor, New NZ Flag
    Lisa Owen interviews RSA President BJ Clark and tech innovator Ian Taylor about changing the NZ flag...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • Lisa Owen interviews Foreign Minister Murray McCully
    Murray McCully says New Zealanders can expect a 5-10 year engagement against Islamic State if we join military action in Iraq and the government will take that “very carefully into account”...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • Lisa Owen interviews Julia Gillard
    Julia Gillard says there is “sufficient evidence” to fight Islamic State and does not think it will increase the risk of a domestic attack...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • NZ businesses to make child abuse a priority conversation
    Many leading New Zealand businesses have partnered with national child advocacy organisation Child Matters to participate in the fourth annual ‘Buddy Day’ - New Zealand’s only child abuse prevention awareness day....
    Scoop politics | 17-10
  • Tribunal decision significant for SMEs
    The Human Rights Review Tribunal decided this week in favour of an employee’s right not to work on Saturdays for religious reasons. The decision may still be appealed but the Director of the Office of Human Rights Proceedings, Robert Kee,...
    Scoop politics | 17-10
  • On The Nation this weekend
    This weekend on The Nation… New Zealand has been elected to the United Nations Security Council, but what happens next? Lisa Owen interviews Foreign Minister Murray McCully from New York about our goals for reform, what America wants from us...
    Scoop politics | 17-10
  • 1000+ supported by Te Arawa Whanau Ora
    Over 1000 individual whānau members are leading happier, healthier, more successful lives as a result of eight passionate and committed Māori organisations working at the coalface to help whānau find success....
    Scoop politics | 17-10
  • Nomination for Board Members Now Open
    CRF’s objective is to create opportunities for people from refugee backgrounds to lead fulfilling lives and contribute to every area of New Zealand society. It is an organisation that undertakes advocacy work using the strengths-based approach,...
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • Anglican Family Care Otago staff to take industrial action
    Social workers, family workers and support staff working for Anglican Family Care in Dunedin and South Otago will take industrial action after their employer refused a pay increase that would keep up with the rising cost of living....
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • Use UN Security Council role to overcome inaction and injust
    Amnesty International welcomes New Zealand winning a seat on the UN Security Council and is calling on New Zealand to use the role to ensure the body lives up to its role of safeguarding global peace and security....
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • Grisham’s ‘child porn’ comments ignorant
    World-renowned author John Grisham has come under fire by advocacy group Stop Demand Foundation, for comments it says trivialises the global child sex abuse trade....
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • Latest leak of TPPA intellectual property text confirms risk
    On the eve of the latest (non)round of negotiations on the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) yet another version of the intellectual property has found its way to Wikileaks ....
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • New Zealand awarded UN Security Council seat
    International aid agency Oxfam New Zealand welcomes New Zealand’s election to the United Nations Security Council, saying it gives an extraordinary opportunity to make a lasting contribution to international peace and security and improve the lives...
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • 40 more jobs lost to cheap imports
    40 more jobs lost to cheap imports Another New Zealand manufacturer is closing its doors, giving the lie to the idea that we have a “rock star” economy or any strategy for jobs growth. Wellpack is a paper bag manufacturer...
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • Pink Batts manufacturer to cut Christchurch jobs
    Pink Batts manufacturer to cut Christchurch jobs 29 roles are to be cut at the Christchurch manufacturing facility of Tasman Insulation, the company which manufacturers the iconic Pink Batts brand of products. The company is proposing to consolidate its...
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • Kellogg cereal donations help the Sallies feed those in need
    Kellogg New Zealand commits 64,000 serves of breakfast cereal during World Food Day Coinciding with World Food Day this year, Kellogg New Zealand and The Salvation Army are reaching out to less fortunate Kiwis with the donation of 64,000 serves...
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • National Slips, Labour Hits Lows
    National fail to get post-election bounce but leaderless Labour Party crash to lowest ever support...
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • NZ parents hope for more than just happy and healthy babies
    Auckland, 16 October 2014 – What do expectant mums and dads hope for their children? According to new research from Growing Up in New Zealand , a baby’s health and happiness may be high up on the list, but today’s...
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • NZPI backs Minister’s affordable housing stance
    NZPI backs Minister’s affordable housing stance NZPI is supportive of Hon. Dr Nick Smith’s, efforts to use the RMA as a mechanism for taking the heat out of the housing affordability challenge in New Zealand. “As Minister for Environment...
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • Prime Minister’s OIA Admision Disturbing
    The Taxpayers’ Union is calling for answers after it was revealed on Radio New Zealand’s Morning Report that the Prime Minister’s office routinely flouts its obligations under the Official Information Act. Taxpayers’ Union spokesman, Ben...
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • NZDIA forum press release
    NZDIA forum press release Wellington - The New Zealand Defence Industry Association, with the support of the NZ Defence Force and the Ministry of Defence, will be holding a two-day international forum on October 21-22 at the Michael Fowler Centre...
    Scoop politics | 15-10
  • BPW NZ calls fashion industry to account
    The New Zealand Federation of Business and Professional Women (BPW NZ) joins the call for action on the use of skinny models and mannequins as it is directly affecting the self-esteem and health of many of our young people....
    Scoop politics | 15-10
  • Electoral Commission introduces Extra Touch for Blind NZers
    The Electoral Commission was presented with the Extra Touch Award by the Association of Blind Citizens of New Zealand (Blind Citizens NZ), in recognition of its successful implementation of Telephone Dictation Voting ahead of its commitment to do so by...
    Scoop politics | 15-10
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