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		<title>By: randal</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/defining-dirty-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-89664</link>
		<dc:creator>randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pass it to john key so he can shoot himself in the other foot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pass it to john key so he can shoot himself in the other foot.</p>
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		<title>By: outofbed</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/defining-dirty-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-89644</link>
		<dc:creator>outofbed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE &lt;blockquote&gt;Nick Smith saying Cullen&#039;s a homosexual now as well.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

September 19th Nelson  Two Campaign Launches. 
In attendance one party co leader, one deputy leader 
one with asuccessful environmental photographer and publisher the other with a misogynist perverted radio host

One berates  cabinet Ministers about their sexuality and talks about altering the RMA to build a new road on a reserve only metres from two schools and three early childhood centres  spliting asunder the most thriving community in Nelson.

 
The other talks about affordable housing and clean rivers and is very  positive and visionary


One gets full coverage in the local Rag complete with  Pics and reporter in attendance

the other gets two lines tacked on the end

Someone give me a Gun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE<br />
<blockquote>Nick Smith saying Cullen&#8217;s a homosexual now as well.</p></blockquote>
<p>September 19th Nelson  Two Campaign Launches.<br />
In attendance one party co leader, one deputy leader<br />
one with asuccessful environmental photographer and publisher the other with a misogynist perverted radio host</p>
<p>One berates  cabinet Ministers about their sexuality and talks about altering the RMA to build a new road on a reserve only metres from two schools and three early childhood centres  spliting asunder the most thriving community in Nelson.</p>
<p>The other talks about affordable housing and clean rivers and is very  positive and visionary</p>
<p>One gets full coverage in the local Rag complete with  Pics and reporter in attendance</p>
<p>the other gets two lines tacked on the end</p>
<p>Someone give me a Gun</p>
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		<title>By: higherstandard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/defining-dirty-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-89623</link>
		<dc:creator>higherstandard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Sod I was responding to Pat - although it&#039;s interesting to see some commenters getting into a tiz about Key purchasing shares I saw the item on TV one and in my opinion it was a complete nothing.

Although I expect the EPMU and Labour to spin it for all it&#039;s worth such is politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Sod I was responding to Pat &#8211; although it&#8217;s interesting to see some commenters getting into a tiz about Key purchasing shares I saw the item on TV one and in my opinion it was a complete nothing.</p>
<p>Although I expect the EPMU and Labour to spin it for all it&#8217;s worth such is politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/defining-dirty-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-89619</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and then lieing about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and then lieing about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Robinsod</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/defining-dirty-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-89618</link>
		<dc:creator>Robinsod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey HS - I think you&#039;ve posted on the wrong thread. You want to misdirect over at the thread about Key being caught using privileged info to make a few bucks for his greedy self...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey HS &#8211; I think you&#8217;ve posted on the wrong thread. You want to misdirect over at the thread about Key being caught using privileged info to make a few bucks for his greedy self&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: higherstandard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/defining-dirty-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-89611</link>
		<dc:creator>higherstandard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;nuclear bomb&quot;

Yawn more like a damp squib.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;nuclear bomb&#8221;</p>
<p>Yawn more like a damp squib.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/defining-dirty-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-89574</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it was investigative reporting.  It was handed to One News today by Labour.  

Bill Ralston said a week or two ago he had heard Labour had a couple of &quot;nuclear bombs&quot; to drop.  Now everything is falling into place:

- That&#039;s why Helen was so keen to base the campaign on Trust, even though Labour was looking a little shaky after Owen Glenn&#039;s comments.
- That&#039;s why Helen never sacked Winston.  She knew she could time this share trading scandal to counter the outcome of the privileges committee.  
- She also knew Winston and her can claim responsibility for the US free trade agreement.  This might get Winston up to 5%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it was investigative reporting.  It was handed to One News today by Labour.  </p>
<p>Bill Ralston said a week or two ago he had heard Labour had a couple of &#8220;nuclear bombs&#8221; to drop.  Now everything is falling into place:</p>
<p>- That&#8217;s why Helen was so keen to base the campaign on Trust, even though Labour was looking a little shaky after Owen Glenn&#8217;s comments.<br />
- That&#8217;s why Helen never sacked Winston.  She knew she could time this share trading scandal to counter the outcome of the privileges committee.<br />
- She also knew Winston and her can claim responsibility for the US free trade agreement.  This might get Winston up to 5%.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/defining-dirty-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-89571</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To risk setting the right off...

Anyone able to think of a time when a male NZ politician has been described as hysterical? 

The best example of a dog-whistle I&#039;ve seen in ages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To risk setting the right off&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyone able to think of a time when a male NZ politician has been described as hysterical? </p>
<p>The best example of a dog-whistle I&#8217;ve seen in ages.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly. Key clearly knew exactly how much he had spent on shares - he came back quickly with the higher amount when he was challenged on the &quot;fudge&quot; amount he gave at first, which was a repeat of the (lower) amount he&#039;d claimed in the past.  

Also, he used the same justification Clark had used about knowing about the difference of claims between Owen and Peters (ie no-one had asked him the amount before, or at least put the higher amount directly to Key).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. Key clearly knew exactly how much he had spent on shares &#8211; he came back quickly with the higher amount when he was challenged on the &#8220;fudge&#8221; amount he gave at first, which was a repeat of the (lower) amount he&#8217;d claimed in the past.  </p>
<p>Also, he used the same justification Clark had used about knowing about the difference of claims between Owen and Peters (ie no-one had asked him the amount before, or at least put the higher amount directly to Key).</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/defining-dirty-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-89568</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JK certainly looked uncomfortable at Fran Mold&#039;s questions about his rail shareholdings on TV1 just now. She provided some pretty convincing evidence on a timeline that he had been &#039;less than open&#039; (euphemism!) about it all after coming into parliament. Good investigative reporting for a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JK certainly looked uncomfortable at Fran Mold&#8217;s questions about his rail shareholdings on TV1 just now. She provided some pretty convincing evidence on a timeline that he had been &#8216;less than open&#8217; (euphemism!) about it all after coming into parliament. Good investigative reporting for a change.</p>
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		<title>By: Quoth the Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quoth the Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve got Nick Smith &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelsonmail/4699978a6007.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;saying Cullen&#039;s a homosexual&lt;/a&gt; now as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve got Nick Smith <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelsonmail/4699978a6007.html" rel="nofollow">saying Cullen&#8217;s a homosexual</a> now as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/defining-dirty-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-89560</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And TV One has just shown John Key to be less than open and trustworthy about his rail share trading.  Legitimate exposure IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And TV One has just shown John Key to be less than open and trustworthy about his rail share trading.  Legitimate exposure IMO.</p>
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