Digital speed cameras & mass surveillance

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1. Poission 1

   6 June 2014 at 12:55 pm

   They don’t need it ,as Vodafone has an app for that.

   http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/jun/06/vodafone-reveals-secret-wires-allowing-state-surveillance
2. minarch 2

   6 June 2014 at 2:32 pm

   Cool, i just bought a new slingshot……
3. Colonial Viper 3

   6 June 2014 at 2:36 pm

   Beyond the privacy/surveillance aspects.

   These cameras will all be connected to number plate character recognition systems and the country’s vehicle database.

   If your warrant or rego is out of date when you drive past one of these cameras you will now be automatically fined $200 (or whatever it is) on each count. The infringement notice goes out into the mail to you without having to pass through any human hands.
   • Crashcart 3.1

     6 June 2014 at 2:56 pm

     That was my primary concern CV. Not so much the rego but whether or not this camera only recorded the details if you are speeding. The fact that it always registers the number plate means there is the ability to use this equipemnt to track peoples movement.
   • karol 3.2

     6 June 2014 at 2:57 pm

     Do you have any sources that show in NZ, the digital speed cameras will also check for vehicles without a current WOF or registration?
     • Colonial Viper 3.2.1

       6 June 2014 at 3:56 pm

       Just my contacts in Dunedin who have seen the system being set up down here. I don’t know if it is part of the system’s initial capabilities, but it is part of the roll out plan.
       • karol 3.2.1.1

         6 June 2014 at 3:59 pm

         So they are keeping pretty quiet about it at this stage, then?
   • minarch 3.3

     6 June 2014 at 2:59 pm

     http://dangerousprototypes.com/2011/06/06/ir-led-speed-camera-license-plate-blocker/
     • Draco T Bastard 3.3.1

       6 June 2014 at 5:21 pm

       Most likely to be illegal same as at present it’s illegal to put on plastic covers that prevent cameras from taking an accurate picture of your number plate. Especially considering that the only purpose of such things is to help you break the law.
       • minarch 3.3.1.1

         9 June 2014 at 10:49 am

         Fxxk the law……
   • Dumrse 3.4

     6 June 2014 at 6:35 pm

     Conspiracy, the theory to use when all else fails.
     • felix 3.4.1

       7 June 2014 at 2:47 am

       Eh? What conspiracy?
     • Murray Olsen 3.4.2

       7 June 2014 at 2:49 am

       This is not theory, though. These things are being rolled out. They will have the capability of taking photos of every car, even if that isn’t used in the beginning. Years of experience tell us that a government enforcement agency does not let technical capabilities sit unused.

       Your pseudonym is very apt.
4. vto 4

   6 June 2014 at 3:51 pm

   only deal is to log off.

   no fancy phone

   only use cash (its quicker and easier anyway).

   In fact the promotion of phones as some betterment is a joke (who wants work arriving on their plate at all hours of the day and night and in all locations? Eh?). And similarly with paymet with cards – always always slower.

   but, you know, if you want to have your life recorded for the future fascists to trawl through before they knock on your door in their jackboots then go right ahead ……
   • Colonial Viper 4.1

     6 June 2014 at 3:59 pm

     only deal is to log off.

     Yep…going off grid…or as the intel services call it…going dark.
     • Richard Christie 4.1.1

       6 June 2014 at 5:16 pm

       only deal is to log off.
       …going dark.

       hmm, soon, I suspect, in their mind that in itself will be very suspicious, justifiable cause for Her Majesty’s services to mark you for special attention.

       They appear to have an insatiable desire for total surveillance.
   • weka 4.2

     6 June 2014 at 9:06 pm

     “but, you know, if you want to have your life recorded for the future fascists to trawl through before they knock on your door in their jackboots then go right ahead ……”

     Better get off the internet too 😉
5. Naki man 5

   6 June 2014 at 5:39 pm

   This is great news for law abiding citizens, more tracking of criminal activity. Less criminal scum on the streets. Bring it on.
   • Richard Christie 5.1

     6 June 2014 at 8:40 pm

     Yes, I expect it’ll be heaven for the grammatically challenged as well.

     The term is fewer, not less.
6. The Al1en 6

   6 June 2014 at 5:56 pm

   “Less criminal scum on the streets.”

   You must have posted in the wrong thread, this is about speeders, not Banksy.
   • Naki man 6.1

     6 June 2014 at 8:45 pm

     “Less criminal scum on the streets.”
     You must have posted in the wrong thread, this is about speeders, not Banksy.
     No Meat head the post is about speed cameras and surveillance you need some of labours night classes on reading and comprehension.
     • McFlock 6.1.1

       6 June 2014 at 8:52 pm

       that whooshing sound was the point whizzing over your head, not a boy racer…
       • The Al1en 6.1.1.1

         7 June 2014 at 8:41 am

         Tee hee hee 😆
7. Daveosaurus 7

   6 June 2014 at 7:01 pm

   Quite aside from all the rights and wrongs of what they’re doing – do you mean to say they’ve still been using film while most of the rest of the world has long gone digital? That’s at about the same level as if their police cars were still rolling around on cross-ply tyres.

   Anyway, even the current Government (when in opposition) acknowledged that all that speed cameras are about is revenue-gathering.
   • Draco T Bastard 7.1

     6 June 2014 at 8:55 pm

     Anyway, even the current Government (when in opposition) acknowledged that all that speed cameras are about is revenue-gathering.

     Well, that’s what they called it – probably because them and their rich mates were getting caught speeding by them. Of course, if no one was breaking the law by speeding they wouldn’t be able to generate any revenue.
8. Thomas Beagle 8

   6 June 2014 at 8:06 pm

   Hi,

   We wrote to the Police asking them if they were going to use these new red light and speed cameras to do automated number plate recognition. They replied and, as of 1st August 2013, denied it. Check out our questions and their response here: https://fyi.org.nz/request/1007-do-the-new-red-light-and-speed-cameras-support-anpr

   There’s also some more background about Police use of ANPR in NZ here: http://techliberty.org.nz/police-confirm-theyre-not-keeping-anpr-data/

   About time we sent an update question to make sure those answers are still valid!

   Cheers,

   Thomas Beagle
   Tech Liberty NZ
   • karol 8.1

     6 June 2014 at 10:07 pm

     Thanks, Thomas. I’d be very interested in their answer.

     3 News tonight reported that the digital speed cameras wouldn’t be used for the kind of things done in Perth: to identify people talking on mobiles while driving, etc.
     • Naki man 8.1.1

       6 June 2014 at 10:22 pm

       Yes I saw that karol they said our camera’s are not capable of focusing on mobiles and seatbelts.
9. RedBaronCV 9

   6 June 2014 at 9:41 pm

   Funny how the Dunedin city council which has huge bills from the Stadium can afford one of these surveillance systems.
   Funny how the cops can afford these surveillance systems and 72 people to raid Dotcom and a big presence outside NACT functions but can’t be bovvered with the roast busters or enforcing protection orders (in dunedin).
   Funny how it seems that at least a part of our road toll is from right hand driving countries. Are these cameras going to shout at anyone on the wrong side of the road.
   And our forestry which kills how many? Some surveillance cameras on the bosses might be a good idea.
   • Murray Olsen 9.1

     7 June 2014 at 2:54 am

     Given the foreign criminals that National ministers associate with, surveillance cameras at Cabinet Club events would be a great idea. After all, if they’ve got nothing to hide……..

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