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	<title>Comments on: EEC votes &#8216;No&#8217; on should-a.com</title>
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		<title>By: James Barber</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ec-votes-no-on-should-a-com/comment-page-1/#comment-146746</link>
		<dc:creator>James Barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some vote yes vids I&#039;ve been making. Thought you may be interested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn39P0tArzQ&amp;feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVQ7fhGn9Wc&amp;feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0OHQ4-fFTQ&amp;feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAKoYGoZMVo&amp;feature=channel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some vote yes vids I&#8217;ve been making. Thought you may be interested</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn39P0tArzQ&#038;feature=channel" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn39P0tArzQ&#038;feature=channel</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVQ7fhGn9Wc&#038;feature=channel" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVQ7fhGn9Wc&#038;feature=channel</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0OHQ4-fFTQ&#038;feature=channel" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0OHQ4-fFTQ&#038;feature=channel</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAKoYGoZMVo&#038;feature=channel" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAKoYGoZMVo&#038;feature=channel</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nemesis</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ec-votes-no-on-should-a-com/comment-page-1/#comment-146238</link>
		<dc:creator>Nemesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hee hee hee...

http://www.should-a.com/fbtqg3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hee hee hee&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.should-a.com/fbtqg3" rel="nofollow">http://www.should-a.com/fbtqg3</a></p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ec-votes-no-on-should-a-com/comment-page-1/#comment-146224</link>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I don&#039;t see that the same problem arises...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t remember saying that either. Learn to read.

Hint: What&#039;s the difference between &quot;good political parody&quot; and &quot;bad political parody&quot;?

Now read the question again and stop bothering me with this dim-witted bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I don&#8217;t see that the same problem arises&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember saying that either. Learn to read.</p>
<p>Hint: What&#8217;s the difference between &#8220;good political parody&#8221; and &#8220;bad political parody&#8221;?</p>
<p>Now read the question again and stop bothering me with this dim-witted bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ec-votes-no-on-should-a-com/comment-page-1/#comment-146218</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The common concern people have with the use of the word &quot;good&quot; in the actual referendum is that it implied that a smack can be used as part of good parental correction. If one disputes this, then answering the question can be tortuous.

I don&#039;t see that the same problem arises with the word &quot;good&quot; in the question &quot;should infringing on copyright as part of good political parody be a criminal offence in New Zealand?&quot;

Only if one thinks that political parody cannot be good would the use of the word &quot;good&quot; be as bad it is in the child discipline question. It&#039;s use in the above question does not make the question &lt;i&gt;meaningless&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The common concern people have with the use of the word &#8220;good&#8221; in the actual referendum is that it implied that a smack can be used as part of good parental correction. If one disputes this, then answering the question can be tortuous.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see that the same problem arises with the word &#8220;good&#8221; in the question &#8220;should infringing on copyright as part of good political parody be a criminal offence in New Zealand?&#8221;</p>
<p>Only if one thinks that political parody cannot be good would the use of the word &#8220;good&#8221; be as bad it is in the child discipline question. It&#8217;s use in the above question does not make the question <i>meaningless</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: kf</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ec-votes-no-on-should-a-com/comment-page-1/#comment-146198</link>
		<dc:creator>kf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the original 

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=92876168772#/group.php?gid=92876168772</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the original </p>
<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=92876168772#/group.php?gid=92876168772" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=92876168772#/group.php?gid=92876168772</a></p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ec-votes-no-on-should-a-com/comment-page-1/#comment-146186</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great. It has been a considerable source of amusement to me to see how tortured some of the &#039;questions&#039; have been. 

Perhaps referendum question makers should have to spend some playtime putting their questions in front of bloggers for a month or so. Probably make the questions more readable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great. It has been a considerable source of amusement to me to see how tortured some of the &#8216;questions&#8217; have been. </p>
<p>Perhaps referendum question makers should have to spend some playtime putting their questions in front of bloggers for a month or so. Probably make the questions more readable</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan Reeve</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ec-votes-no-on-should-a-com/comment-page-1/#comment-146177</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan Reeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to let you know - after making a few changes to the site, I seem to have convinced the EEC that they should leave the site alone. 

I suspect a few calls from media organisations helped as well - it was poised to make it into the mainstream.

In some ways I would have liked it to go further, as I think a larger focus on the lack of fair use provisions in NZ copyright law would have been a good thing, but I probably don&#039;t need the hassle.

At no point was I considering removing the site, or substantially changing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to let you know &#8211; after making a few changes to the site, I seem to have convinced the EEC that they should leave the site alone. </p>
<p>I suspect a few calls from media organisations helped as well &#8211; it was poised to make it into the mainstream.</p>
<p>In some ways I would have liked it to go further, as I think a larger focus on the lack of fair use provisions in NZ copyright law would have been a good thing, but I probably don&#8217;t need the hassle.</p>
<p>At no point was I considering removing the site, or substantially changing it.</p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ec-votes-no-on-should-a-com/comment-page-1/#comment-146166</link>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I? Where?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I? Where?</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ec-votes-no-on-should-a-com/comment-page-1/#comment-146164</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You dispute that political parody can be good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You dispute that political parody can be good?</p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ec-votes-no-on-should-a-com/comment-page-1/#comment-146140</link>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Matthew, unless you remove the word &quot;good&quot; the question above is just as meaningless as the current referendum.

Jesus man, sharpen up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Matthew, unless you remove the word &#8220;good&#8221; the question above is just as meaningless as the current referendum.</p>
<p>Jesus man, sharpen up.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Hooton</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ec-votes-no-on-should-a-com/comment-page-1/#comment-146138</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Hooton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asking the question you feature above would be a more sensible use of tax dollars than the one being asked later this month.  Given that $9 million is being spent on asking that question, perhaps the Prime Minister could arrange for your question to also be asked as part of the same exercise.  The marginal cost could not be all that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asking the question you feature above would be a more sensible use of tax dollars than the one being asked later this month.  Given that $9 million is being spent on asking that question, perhaps the Prime Minister could arrange for your question to also be asked as part of the same exercise.  The marginal cost could not be all that much.</p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ec-votes-no-on-should-a-com/comment-page-1/#comment-146117</link>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to be clear: The site isn&#039;t actually being taken down?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to be clear: The site isn&#8217;t actually being taken down?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Ellis</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ec-votes-no-on-should-a-com/comment-page-1/#comment-146090</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a shame.  There were a lot of amusing should-a expressions going up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a shame.  There were a lot of amusing should-a expressions going up.</p>
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		<title>By: Build your own referendumb &#171; g.blog</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ec-votes-no-on-should-a-com/comment-page-1/#comment-146080</link>
		<dc:creator>Build your own referendumb &#171; g.blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] [EDIT: Original Image © Crown copyright http://bit.ly/electcopy] &#8211; this edit added due to stupid and draconian copyright law. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] [EDIT: Original Image © Crown copyright <a href="http://bit.ly/electcopy" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/electcopy</a> &#8211; this edit added due to stupid and draconian copyright law. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ec-votes-no-on-should-a-com/comment-page-1/#comment-146077</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Electoral Commission is not the same as the Electoral Enrolment Centre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Electoral Commission is not the same as the Electoral Enrolment Centre.</p>
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