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Election narratives

Written By: - Date published: 11:11 am, May 27th, 2013 - 122 comments
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National has set out its narrative for the 2014 election.

Election between centre right and far left – Key

National is facing the “notoriously difficult” task of winning a third term against an Opposition increasingly dragged to the “far left” by the Greens, Prime Minister John Key says.

Third terms are not “notoriously difficult” for National governments, every single one of them so far has run for three terms. If Key fails to secure a third term he will be the first National leader to do so.

So basically the strategy is fear mongering about the Greens.

“Normally elections are fought between the centre left and the centre right. That is not what’s going to take place next year. David Shearer has cut his cloth and it is wrapped around Russel Norman.

“But that now becomes an election between the centre right and the far left.”

With nothing positive to run on, the Nats will be campaigning on fear. Same as previous campaigns – remember “the hydra”? (Ironic from a government of National, ACT, Maori Party and Peter Dunne – no?)

So how should Labour and the Greens respond? Like most here I would like to see them “front foot” the issue. Both National and Labour have moved from the centre, and this election offers a choice between clearly right and clearly left alternatives (see Karol’s How far right is John Key’s “centre”?). A Labour / Green coalition will be a government of the Left (KiwiBuild, NZ Power, capital gains tax). This is necessary because the government of the Right (privatisation, pillage the environment, beneficiary bashing) has failed.

But the left also needs to get its own narrative out there. “This is an election between the 98% and 2%”. “This is an election between a fair go and the rich get richer”. “This is an election between building our future and selling it”. I’m sure that you can add your own suggestions…

122 comments on “Election narratives”

  1. One Anonymous Knucklehead 1

    …between a living wage and a living hell.

    …between a river and a sewer.

    …between New Zealand and the National Party.

  2. shorts 2

    agree with front fronting it – also the Greens and Labour shouldn’t engage with any left vs right type talk – rather stick with the types of subjects mentioned already, that is frame it in language & terms everyone understands

  3. Monty 3

    If the election is between the 98% and the 2% then why are the Nats still solid at 48-49 %. Maybe it is because their economic policy is actually benefitting all New Zealanders?

    • Colonial Viper 3.2

      That’s a very important comment Monty. And you should keep bringing it up because it demonstrates an inability or short fall of the Left to demonstrate their cause and their philosophy to ordinary people.

      • Monty 3.2.1

        Maybe Viper the reality is that the extreme left policies of the greens are scaring off the moderates in Labour who are maintaining their support for National. Just think that for the past six or seven years the Nats have consistently polled in the late forties or early fifties. Nothing has shaken this extraordinary level of polling. This is the problem for Labour who instead of trying to control the centre ground, are sliding to the extreme left policies of the Greens. It is economic policy that controls at the end of the day. Everything else is pretty much a sideshow by comparison.

        The National policies are paying dividends as much as you hate to admit it. That is why Shearer is reluctant to talk about the recent positive economic results, and Parker saying Labour would have returned NZ to surplus in the same timeframe as National are on track to do is just lame. Reality check for the left. The people of NZ trust National more than they trust the greens and Labour.

        • Jackal 3.2.1.1

          When you can highlight at least one “extreme policy” of the Greens, then your comment might mean something.

          If it was economic policy that controls how people vote, then why is National polling so high? Their economic track record is atrocious! What recent positive economic results are you talking about?

          BTW, the 2 vs the 98 is a percentage taken from the population. National only gained 24% of the populations vote at the last election. Try not to get these things confused.

          Clearly right wing economic policy isn’t benefitting all New Zealanders. In fact wages in real terms have declined for 16 to 20 year old males. Take into account increases to the cost of living and most Kiwis are a lot worse off since National gained power.

          The problem is that the most adversely affected by Nationals policies don’t typically vote. That’s the real issue (like always) that the left faces… Getting enough people out to vote.

        • One Anonymous Knucklehead 3.2.1.2

          As Jackal said: name one Green policy you consider to be “far Left” and explain why. Put up or shut up.

          • Frank Macskasy 3.2.1.2.1

            … and a little girl waits.

            Muted silence from Monty.

            *tumbleweed rolls through*

          • aerobubble 3.2.1.2.2

            The Mighty River prospectus declared that there were regulatory risks, and everyone knows that only the far left would dare rationally speak to this risk using the free market ideal that mainstream home owners don’t have the opportunity to collect their bargaining power like big companies do and so should also be able to level the free market playing field. This is so wrong, Key was livid, only the far left would use the free market against him, the evil bastards.

  4. ghostrider888 4

    David Shearer, “(Labour) are a centre-left party…we’re a broad church…covering (people) from the far-left to the right.” -on Todays mid-day news, which also repeated the Labour / Greens “closing the gap on National”.

    Closing The Gap.Capital Gains Tax.Growing True Community.Taking Green Choices.

    • gobsmacked 4.1

      Did he actually say “right”? Which news bulletin was it?

      • ghostrider888 4.1.1

        apologies gs, he definitely stated “right”; it is just that, as with all tasks, I alternate programmes, so, for now, I cannot recall, yet you have my word.

  5. Huginn 5

    . . . between tech savvy, digital independence and serfdom

    Key’s left/right story overlooks the Blue Greens who left National after listening to Parliament debate the 3strikes legislation.

  6. vto 6

    The personal.
    Expose Key’s lies. Call him a liar – someone (then slug it out).

    Attack him personally. Get stuck into thim personally. After all, his policies and lies have a completely direct effect on our personal lives, so return the favour.

    • Monty 6.1

      The Labour Party has been doing this for seven years. Has not worked yet. Why do you think it will work going forward?

      On the right we laugh at this failed tactic and call it Key Derangement Syndrome or KDS for short. How about doing what John Key did to Clark. He got good policy in place and essentially ignored Clark. He was positive, and was credible. The left have failed to be positive and seem to be anti every progressive policy and therefore are deemed to have no credibility.

      • McFlock 6.1.1

        the nat campaign against clark didn’t get personal? Surely you can’t be serious…

        • lprent 6.1.1.1

          “Monty” knows that. He has been around in one guise or another for a very long time and frequently attacked politicians at a personal level. Now I’m sure that he’d argue it was all policy, however that is a rather moth-eaten figleaf bearing in mind some of his comments over the years.

          • Monty 6.1.1.1.1

            Lynn, I have only ever commented under the name Monty. Never ever under any other name. I have avoided the standard for a long time as well. I find it something akin to a whole bunch of lefties locked in a sound proof room all shouting what a wanker John Key is and all righties are evil. Problem is that the audience is also very limited and no one has been convinced

            • felix 6.1.1.1.1.1

              lolz

            • lprent 6.1.1.1.1.2

              I was looking at email addresses. The earliest Monty comments used a different email.

              Noone ever convinces anyone on the nets. They always have a spontaneous shift of opinion on a different subject a few years later. The net is for disagreeing.

              If you are seeing a concerted opinion here then you must have interesting problems with your grip on reality. You do read sort of like the followers of Small Gods in the desert… But that is a bit of a starvation diet.

              Seeing what is actually there is usually more fulfilling. But you’d have to resist your usual technique of painting a shoot me target on your forehead to be able to see past the hail of lead you draw on yourself. Trying to “win points” is a fools game. It is more interesting looking at the diversity of opinion for pinchable ideas….

      • vto 6.1.2

        yes i am well aware of all of that and rob’s blackadder scene below … he he.

        but it don’t matter, from this angle it is a version of vengeance for the havoc wrought to date and to follow due to key’s deceiving ways and bad policies. Personal effects deserve personal response.

        best listen to someone who knows how to win elections…

      • Draco T Bastard 6.1.3

        He got good policy in place

        Bullet points are not policy.
        “The broad similarity to many of the Labour-led government’s main policies has seen National dubbed “Labour-lite”.

        and essentially ignored Clark.

        And that’s outright BS – exactly as what I’ve come to expect from the right. They lie and rewrite history to suit their delusions. It wasn’t a direct attack but it was an attack nonetheless.

    • Rob 6.2

      Reminiscent of the at great scene from Black Adder 4 , where the new plan to engage the enemy at the trenches was revealed as being exactly the same as the last 19 plans that preceded it. The defence of this “new” approach is that enemy wouldn’t think that they would be dumb enough to keep repeating it and therefore gaining an element of surprise.

      Smart think Vto, keep that sh*t going!

    • georgecom 6.3

      I don’t endorse getting stuck into Key personally.

      But, the framing of his Government and the alternative will paint him in poor terms. Building NZ future vs selling NZ future is a good one. NZ for the many vs NZ for the few. The shonky deals and pocket lining practises of this Government can be brought to focus with framing of a Government for the 5% vs a Government for the rest of us. Paint them as being out of touch, yesterdays thinkers who only really care about their mates.

      That “nice man John Key” may be ok to have a beer with but he isn’t doing the things that lay a foundation for you and your kids future. You may sort oflike him but he’s a light weight when it comes to knowing what needs to be done for your future. Yup, you’ll have a beer with your mate but do you want him dating your sister?

  7. Yes 7

    Clark lost the election because everyone saw through the election giveaways. Also the need to get involved in everything NZ ers were doing. Personal freedoms were being watered down..hence the nanny state comments. The general public will all fight when personal freedoms are closed down. Let’s be honest David Parker is so absent and david shearer trust rusty more than david

  8. karol 8

    The general public will all fight when personal freedoms are closed down.

    Yep they are out on the streets in ever growing numbers protesting against the current government’s anti-democratic policies and processes.

    • Yes 8.1

      Protesting is a mechanism of the left…there was one big protest at the general election. That is the only protest that has stood the test of time. These marches achieve nothing under either government.

      • karol 8.1.1

        OK, then we can expect a massive swing away from Key’s government as they protest at the way it’s gradually closing down a lot of democratic freedoms.

      • Lanthanide 8.1.2

        “These marches achieve nothing under either government.”

        Seems like National backed down over mining national parks. For a while, anyway.

        • marty mars 8.1.2.1

          The gnats are like a homing torpedo on that one, they pretended to change direction but never took their eyes off the target, not even slightly.

          But in terms of marches – their value imo is in showing marchers that they are not alone and that others agree with them thus building momentum for whatever they want changed. I think of the Anti-tour protests – they changed our society and helped people (at that time) realise that they weren’t alone in their concerns and rage, that others were with them and that they didn’t have to just sit there and take it.

  9. Enough is Enough 9

    “This is an election between the 98% and 2%”

    Really? That one is a bit silly and just falls flat because evidently a very large proportion of that 98% vote for National.

    Rather than attacking those voters who are part of the 98% but still vote National, why don’t we engage with them and find out why the fuck they support Key?

    They haven’t all been conned. They have legitimate reasons for not wantng Labour. So rather than throwing meaningless slogans about, why don’t we engage with the enemy and find out why they prefer National’s corrupt policies over the Green’s (and to an extent Labour’s) progressive policy platform.

    I am not talking about the super rich here either. I mean Joe Average with 2.4 kinds a massive mortgage, two jobs, National Voter.

  10. Tigger 10

    The collapse of the right into National falsely buoys their numbers. I never count Act out and those who ignore the Conservatives will regret it. But Key remains lucky that neither is currently hoovering up his vote. This will change though. National will splinter. It’s not if, it’s when.

  11. unpcnzcougar 11

    One of the biggest things for me is a CGT. I don’t want to have worked all my life paying off a mortgage with after tax money to have it stolen from my children in a CGT. Now being clear about this if I leave my house to my children it is not subject to CGT. However, if they decide to sell as they would to pay down their own mortgages then it is subject to CGT. That is my understanding of how the CGT will work. If I am wrong then feel free to correct me.

      • Colonial Viper 11.1.1

        If that house is left to them in an estate, and is not the childrens primary home but instead could be considered an invetment property, a CGT might very well apply to it using a baseline value starting from when it was no longer a primary home.

        The response to unpc is basically this: if you make a financial gain on a capital asset, you should expect to be taxed on it, just like you would if you made a financial gain from doing work.

        • unpcnzcougar 11.1.1.1

          Thank you. It is as I thought.

          • Colonial Viper 11.1.1.1.1

            Well, no, you had no idea. Also, the CGT applicable would be zero when your family home first enters the estate because the baseline value of the home would not have changed.

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 11.2

      The CGT doesn’t apply to the family home.

      One question: how did you come to the false belief that it did? Did you make it up yourself or has someone made a fool of you? Liar, or dupe?

      Now you’ve been brought up to speed you’ll know not to repeat the lie, I’m sure.

      • unpcnzcougar 11.2.1

        Yes it does say no CGT on family home. What happens if the children (which they will) sell that family home? This is a legitimate question. I can’t find anything that says it is not taxable if they sell to pay down their own mortgages.

        • One Anonymous Knucklehead 11.2.1.1

          As opposed to making it their family home do you mean? The policy is pretty straightforward, do you need it spelled out for you?

          • unpcnzcougar 11.2.1.1.1

            Actually yes. But preferably without the undertone of rudeness.

            • One Anonymous Knucklehead 11.2.1.1.1.1

              You post a comment conflating taxation and theft and expect not to get treated with contempt?

              Grow a thicker skin and don’t be so PC.

              The CGT will only apply to gains made after the law is passed.

              • unpcnzcougar

                Dude, my assumption was correct. It is not a lie. The question was posed as to how to get former Labour party voters back from the Nats. I answered with a legitimate concern that lots of people have.
                I am not being PC – simply asking for politeness. This is a problem as people view Labour and supporters as being quite nasty. So maybe you – yes you – could start by unhardening your attitude towards someone who was a Labour voter who simply asked a question.

                • Colonial Viper

                  Simply put, people don’t trust the motives for your question, Miss Sweetness and Light.

                • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                  So, what was it that stopped you from using Google to find the policy and read it for yourself? What was it that stopped you from doing that to gain your “understanding of how the GCT will work” ?

                  If you didn’t bother looking at the policy, where did your “understanding” come from, and why are you rude enough to think people should do your Google searches for you? Oh, and, if you’re so un-PC, why are you whining about rudeness?

                • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                  Oh, so you want people to be polite to you? What exactly do you think political correctness is?

                  When you say “people” view Labour as “nasty”, those are called “weasel words”, a particularly nasty way to tell lies.

                  This is a problem as many people think that calling yourself a cougar is a sign of ugliness, desperation, or both, but haha don’t be so politically correct, where’s your sense of humour?

                  • weka

                    Actually, leaving aside content in this thread, I can’t see a good reason for the rudeness either, except as a way of getting people to shut up. Sometimes the debate culture here is very poor, other times it’s tedious.

                    There are people who don’t post here because of the rudeness and the outright attacks and even bullying. To an extent I like the rough and tumble of the place, but I also think we would have more fun if we engaged the issues more rather than being mean to people who say stupid things, or weasel words, or whatever.

                    I also think it’s completely acceptable for people to ask for explanations for things rather than having to go look everything up on google. We are a community of people, and most of us come here for human engagement.

                    • weka

                      Having reread cougar’s comments, I find their questions completely valid. That they can’t ask them here and get straight answers without ridicule is bullshit. For god’s sake, how many people do you think get put of ts by this kind of shit?

                    • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                      Yeah, it was a straight question, which by some amazing coincidence exactly mimicked wingnut spin, asked by someone who says taxation is theft.

                      What charming naivety.

                    • weka

                      I wasn’t talking about their behaviour, I was talking about yours.

                      oh, and btw, not everyone fits into your notions of political boxes.

                    • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                      I wasn’t talking about their naivety. I was talking about yours.

                    • infused

                      I love when OAK posts. A true reflection of why people don’t vote for labour.

                    • weka

                      “I wasn’t talking about their naivety. I was talking about yours.”

                      Obviously. But what is your point? That you think it’s ok to be rude to anyone you judge as rightwing? The original question was valid, there were things about CGT I didn’t understand and could have learned from, I’m sure that is true for other readers, and all you did was practice your ‘I’m so cool at rudeness’ spiel. It’s getting boring, having ts be such an in club.

                    • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                      The answers you and my poor disingenuous* victim are looking for have been provided.

                      *”BM you are bang on. I would never consider a vote for Labour with Shearer as leader. However, what is more frightening to me are the potential coalition partners. The Greens and Mana would demand too much that I don’t think a lot of people could stomach, and the potential for chaos is huge. ”

                      “Shearer’s income from the UN was tax free. He also received free accommodation and meals, transport etc. Which begs the question – how much do you think it is possible to save over 10 years with no tax and living expenses. I think that is why he won’t disclose how much is in that US bank account.”

                      ” It can get tiresome for european middle class males here in the Women’s Republic Of New Zealand.”

                      “As a parent I want to know how my child compares with the rest of the country. If he was doing badly then I would want to help get him back up to standards. Having standards gives a benchmark and something to aim for. Without them it is simply a race to the bottom.”

                      PS: Infused, why would a rude Green voter put someone off ticking the Labour box?

                    • weka

                      “The answers you and my poor disingenuous* victim are looking for have been provided.”

                      Eventually, after much rudeness and dismissiveness, and not by you.

                      You do realise that I understand the politics of the person asking the question. I’m not debating that*. I’m saying that there is nothing wrong with the questions themselves and telling people to go google the answers themselves, as well as being mean to them, is anti-social.

                      *I also don’t see them as a poor victim, you are the one bandying around the pejorative labels here, because, IMO, it suits your predilection for meanness and your need to display your wit. I’m just saying that while sometimes that is entertaining, other times it gets in the way of useful and meaningful conversation.

                    • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                      I answered it in my very first response, and repeatedly thereafter.

                      But sure, I get it, you think my tone was inappropriate on this occasion. Must do better.

                    • ghostrider888

                      you are ‘in’ that ‘club’ weka.

                    • weka

                      I don’t think you did answer in your first response. You gave an answer for sure, but it didn’t tell me what I needed to know and was wondering from the original question (how CGT worked with inheritance). It probably seems all very obvious to you, but it wasn’t to me.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      The short answer is weka that the legislation and associated regulations would still have to be discussed, formulated and finalised before you know for sure.

        • Ed 11.2.1.2

          If it is sold within a reasonably short time of the death of the parents their would be no capital gains tax paid – it is only from that time on that CGT wold accrue on increases in value after the date the ownership changes. If the beneficiaries of teh will ask for it to be sold the trustewes would pass on cash proceeds without payment of CGT. Clear now?

          • weka 11.2.1.2.1

            Ok, so if that is true, then surely the period of time is defined…

            • Colonial Viper 11.2.1.2.1.1

              Does it really matter if that time is 0.1s after the parents are buried?

              The valuation of the house is not going to move appreciably in the two or three months between the funeral and them selling the property so CGT would be negligible to zero.

              But I agree with you weka, this stuff should be clarified, and probably would be clarified by the IRD in regulation.

              Nevertheless, I feel that this is pretty much an edge case which would affect only a few percent of residential sales (the ones which were estate liquidations).

              • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                How would the market value be calculated? Obviously, by the sale price, but the amount of CGT paid would be reliant (say) on the value at the time the property passed to the deceased’s estate.

                I think there might be some issues there.

    • Draco T Bastard 11.3

      Taxes aren’t theft no matter how much you like to think they are.

      • One Anonymous Knucklehead 11.3.1

        Yeah, good point Draco.

        Has anyone else had a gutsful of cry-baby wingnuts whining about having to pay their taxes?

        • unpcnzcougar 11.3.1.1

          So answer the question. If the kids sell the family home, is it subject to CGT?

          • Colonial Viper 11.3.1.1.1

            The only capital gains which apply will be those which occur from the day you passed the house into your estate.

        • scotty 11.3.1.2

          Its as if Rightoids go into business assuming they won’t have to pay tax.
          Then get all righteous, when the IRD steals ‘their’ money.

      • unpcnzcougar 11.3.2

        Actually they are theft if you’ve already paid them. ie paid a mortgage with after tax money. I don’t have a problem paying tax – I pay more than most and am happy to. I am worried about double tax which is what I see if the family home is then sold by the children so they can pay down their mortgages.

        • Colonial Viper 11.3.2.1

          Now you’re being deliberately disingenuous.

          The CGT only affects brand new capital gains on an investment asset, there is no “double tax”.

        • One Anonymous Knucklehead 11.3.2.2

          The. Capital. Gains. Tax. Will. Not. Apply. To. The. Family. Home. And. Will. Only. Apply. To. Capital. Gains. Made. After. The. Law. Is. Passed.

          Do we need to start looking through the dictionary to help you understand any of these terms?

          • unpcnzcougar 11.3.2.2.1

            It. Does. If. The. Family. Home. Is. Sold. By. The. Children.

            • One Anonymous Knucklehead 11.3.2.2.1.1

              Cognition isn’t your strong point is it?

              It doesn’t if the children use the family home as a family home, and it won’t apply to any property bought before the policy comes into effect.

              Please try and keep up.

            • Colonial Viper 11.3.2.2.1.2

              Why would the children want to sell the family home? Where will they live?

            • karol 11.3.2.2.1.3

              If the home was passed to the children, I would have assumed the usual rules would apply – GST on any home other than the family home. So, once the children/child took ownership of the home it’d depend on whether that became their family home, or was a second home for them.

              If the children jointly owned the home, and wanted to sell it for the money to split between them, I’d have thought CGT would apply at the time of sale.

              • Colonial Viper

                Another important factor is what/when the baseline price of the house is calculated from, and therefore what the capital gain (if any) at the time of sale is.

                • unpcnzcougar

                  They want to sell because they have left home and bought houses of their own. So I would want them to sell and take the money to pay off their own mortgages.

                  • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                    So, you’d sell your family home – exempt from CGT – then hand out the cash to the offspring. Where would you live?

            • Ed 11.3.2.2.1.4

              But only on the increase in value since the date they took ownership – if they sell immediately that amount would be zero.

        • Pascal's bookie 11.3.2.3

          Is GST theft too?

          What about taxes on interest and dividends?

          Work hard, save some capital, start a business and what they do? Turn around and tax you on the profit! Outrage, when you alreafy paid income tax when you were saving that capital. Egads!

          • unpcnzcougar 11.3.2.3.1

            Pascal, that is a bit of a simplistic point of view for you. My question was solely on tax paid if kids sold the family home after I died.
            As stated I don’t have problems paying tax on anything – I do have problems with tax already paid being retaxed.

            • One Anonymous Knucklehead 11.3.2.3.1.1

              “The only capital gains which apply will be those which occur from the day you passed the house into your estate.”

              “Now you’re being deliberately disingenuous.The CGT only affects brand new capital gains on an investment asset, there is no “double tax”.”

              CV.

              Ignoring the answers to your questions is another example of your rudeness and mendacity, you piece of trash. Haha where’s your sense of humour don’t be so PC.

            • karol 11.3.2.3.1.2

              This is what happens in the UK where there is no CGT on the first home, but on any others.

              They also have an inheritance tax, which I believe we don’t have here right now. In the UK how much CGT a person pays depends on the value/profit gained by selling the home:

              Being given a home

              Your parents may want you eventually to have their home. If they leave their home to you in their wills, you inherit the property at its market value at the time of death. There is no capital gains tax payable on death, but the value will be included in the estate, and inheritance tax may be payable instead.

              If you sell the property without having made it your own home, there could be CGT to pay, and this will be based on the increase in value between the date of death and the date when you sell.

              Your parents might give you the home during their lifetime but carry on living there. For inheritance tax purposes, this counts as a gift with reservation so the home will still count as part of your parents’ estates when they die.

              You may have to pay CGT when you eventually sell the home, and this will be based on the increase in value between the date they gave you the property and the date you sell. This is the case even though there may be inheritance tax to pay on the home at the time of your parents’ deaths.

              Home example

              For example, you inherit your father’s home when he died in August 2012.

              At the date of death, it was worth £200,000.
              You sell it six months later for £205,000 and can deduct selling costs of £3,000.
              You have made a gain of £205,000 – £200,000 – £3,000 = £2,000 which falls comfortably within your annual allowance, so no CGT is due.

              Imagine instead your father gave you the home 10 years earlier while he was still alive and continuing to live there.

              At the date of the gift, the home was worth £140,000.
              Again you sell six months after his death. In this case, you have made a gain of £205,000 – £140,000 – £3,000 = £62,000.

              After deducting your annual allowance of £10,900, you have a taxable gain of £51,100. If you are already a higher rate taxpayer, the tax bill on this would be 28% x £51,100 = £14,308. If you are a standard rate taxpayer, you would pay CGT at 18% on the amount of gain that takes you to the higher-rate threshold and 28% on the rest.

              In addition, the value at the date of your father’s death (£200,000) will be included in his estate for inheritance tax purposes, rather than the value at the date he gave it to you (£140,000).

            • georgecom 11.3.2.3.1.3

              So the “family home” ceases to be a family home, it is now an asset that your children will sell. So, the nature of the asset has changed eh. That point cleared up.

              You paid your mortgage from your income. You owned the house not for capital gain but as something different, to raise a family, a point of security, a place to be etc etc. Whilst the house remains that, no CGT.

              BUT, when the house becomes an asset for sale a CGT will apply. This isn’t ‘theft’ or any other silly such name. It is tax on a capital gain, the CAPITAL GAIN will be taxed. The value (tangible and intangible) gains you got from having the house as a family home remains untaxed. BUT, when becoming an asset that makes a winfall profit, a CGT will apply. Nothing like theft or such silliness. A dollar earnt is a dollar earnt and tax accordingly.

        • Draco T Bastard 11.3.2.4

          You wouldn’t be paying double tax as you’d only be paying on the income of the sale of the house, i.e, the difference between the purchase price and and the sale price is income.

      • unpcnzcougar 11.3.3

        Fine. Carry on.

        • scotty 11.3.3.1

          Unpcnzcougar.
          Your kids will benefit from the tax free ‘capital gain’ you had during the ownership of your house.

          If they sold up immediately upon your death ,there would be no capital gains tax due .

          If they however kept your house for say 3 years (as an investment property) then sold up ,they would pay tax on the CG they enjoyed ,over the 3 years it was held as an ‘ investment’ property.

          Just to be clear ,the tax is a portion of the capital gains, not the whole lot.

          Not sure what the CG tax rate will be .(15% ?)

          I stand to be corrected tho.

    • georgecom 11.4

      A CGT won’t apply on YOUR family home. If the home passes to someone else who already owns their OWN family home then the original home, your family home, ceases to be the family home. It may be a rental or a home sold on the market for a windfall profit.

  12. BLiP 12

    The “Spirit Level” should be compulsory reading for all Labour candidates in the next election. The data is there, it doesn’t lie and its got pictures. Also, even the very rich do better under a more equal society. The right need saving from themselves as well.

  13. Blue 13

    For the average voter, the election will be a choice between John Key and David Shearer.

    If Key doesn’t get a third term it will be a miracle.

  14. weka 14

    btw, I read all the questions and answers and still don’t quite fully understand the CGT issue raised here. I vote Green. Are you going to give me shit now too? Or am I exempt because I have the right politics?

    • Arfamo 14.1

      I don’t know. I’ve been looking on Red Alert and the Labour Party website to see if I can find anything on the question of what capital gains tax except on the family home means but haven’t had any luck finding the answer. My assumption was always that Labour means anyone who buys their own home and lives in it themselves (their family’s home) won’t have to pay CGT on it if & when they sell it (eg to buy another home if still working, or to retire into a retirement village).

      My assumption was that if someone dies and leaves their home to their adult children, who are living elsewhere in their own homes, the children would, if they sell their deceased parents’ home inherited in the will, probably have to pay CGT on it.

  15. Ad 15

    Personally I’m waiting for a stunning economic development policy from Labour.

    One that can reconcile the fishing interests of Shane Jones and the fishing policy of David Cunliffe.
    And reconcile every one of those Pure Advantage players in the NZHerald this morning, with the West Coasters’ need for jobs as they reacted to the Dennison Plateau open cast coal mine.
    …With any concerete policy results out of the manufacturing inquiry that was held recently.

    Basincally something that says there will be good jobs, with escalating careers to be had, in durable and sustainable industries that require our savings to build in our sharemarket and our young people to build a life here.

    Labour needs to be the jobs party. And show us how.

  16. Yes 16

    Guys this capital tax discussion doesn’t make sense. You want to build 100,000 homes then tax them when they sell making it more expensive for the next generation. So completely defeats the purpose. This policy doesn’t make sense.

    • Colonial Viper 16.1

      What doesn’t make sense is your idiocy/carefully constructed lies.

      Do you even understand what a tax on capital gains is?

      It is a tax which dissuades people from trying to speculate on property and prevents them from making tax free capital gains out of house price increases.

      A CGT is one preliminary measure which can help suppress the flow of hot money into housing price bubbles.

      • Te Reo Putake 16.1.1

        Jebus, CV, I admire your patience. I’d have just pointed out that a 15% CGT is peanuts compared to the tax rate that should apply to the profits of houses owned as an income generating business. Most rental property owners don’t pay any significant tax on the rental income, and they get the capital gain untaxed when they sell. That’s what’s stuffing the future of the next generation and squeezing the current crop of young adults out of home ownership.

        • Colonial Viper 16.1.1.1

          Yes, what you said too :)

          • Te Reo Putake 16.1.1.1.1

            I find it weird that righties think capital gains is so totes different from a profit generated on any other form of speculative enterprise. If all property is theft, capital gains is the bag the robbers hide the loot in.

            • kiwicommie 16.1.1.1.1.1

              They claim ‘taxation is theft’, but when times are tough on their corporate mates, they are all too enthusiastic to give them hand outs at taxpayers expense.

              • Yes

                Does the heavy burden on student loans interest free non repayments not a hand out

                • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                  Yes, but the point is that you whinge and whine about handouts unless they go to businesses, when suddenly, your objections miraculously vanish. In other words, you’re a hypocrite, aka National Party supporter.

                  • Yes

                    But businesses provide tax by corporate tax and employee tax. Governments spend it. GST is a freedom of choice tax ..if you want something then you pay.

                    Capital gain tax will burden the next generation of home buyers.

                    • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                      What part of “family home” are you having trouble with, you mendacious wretch?

                      Keep whining, cry-baby.

                • Nowhere near the cost of the corporate handouts so far mate. :P

  17. Yes 17

    Thanks knucklehead…my question is what is the impact of capital gains tax on homes for the next generation when it is only going to increase the affordability price. It might be ok this time but in 40 years time when the new owners want to sell.

    Why do people on here abuse people.

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 17.1

      The policy will not apply to “homes”.

      pol·i·cy 1 (pl-s)
      n. pl. pol·i·cies
      1. A plan or course of action, as of a government, political party, or business, intended to influence and determine decisions, actions, and other matters:

      ap·ply (-pl)
      v. ap·plied, ap·ply·ing, ap·plies
      1. To be pertinent or relevant

      home (hm)
      n.
      1. A place where one lives; a residence.

      Further explanation will require pictures.

      • Yes 17.1.1

        yes it will – if a family cant buy a house and has to rent then that rental will be subject to capital gains tax. Rent goes up!

        Why do people quote the dictionary – it is a stupid old school debating technique

        • One Anonymous Knucklehead 17.1.1.1

          Rental increases are one projected feature of a CGT. They are also expected to increase home ownership rates, increase the stock of smaller house, etc.

          It’s fairly easy to predict these things though, because so many countries (on which the sky has not fallen) have a CGT of some sort.

  18. peterlepaysan 18

    Ahem!

    Labours problems are based in the the “no shows” at the last two elections.

    No show.

    No vote.

    No power.

    Political campaigns require rather lots of money.

    Business interests have rather lots of money.

    Joe and Joanna six pack have trouble finding spare cash for a six pack a week between them.

    Guess where political parties go to for money for campaigns?

    Guess who political parties do not offend?

    A broke underclass cannot afford to buy the goodies that business touts.

    Shonkey gives away billions in tax cuts to the wealthy and then runs a ‘slash and burn” operation on government expenditure.

    There is a Hollywood epic yet to arrive portraying Shonkey as Gordon Gecko saving little old new zealand as a county of Hawaii of which he is Governor. Something he once told bronnie what he wanted to do.

    • Olwyn 18.1

      A better way is to galvanise the troops, so that your rising popularity poses a threat. Then businesses will part with money to stop you from going too far. Doing it the other way round; kowtowing to business and hoping that the troops will just get in behind despite their lack of representation, is the road to irrelevancy.

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  • Rapists, not Tinder, the threat to women
    Blame for rape and sexual assault should only ever be laid at the door of the perpetrator, not dating services or the actions of women themselves, Labour’s Associate Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. “Tinder is not the problem and women...
    Labour | 09-10
  • Safer Journeys For People Who Cycle
    You have a rare opportunity to tell the people who are making the decisions on cycling how to make it better. The Cycling Safety Panel is seeking feedback on their draft recommendations for improving the safety of cycling in New...
    Greens | 08-10
  • Subsidising more pollution will undermine water clean-up plan at Te Waihora...
    In 2010, NIWA found Canterbury’s Te Waihora/Lake Ellesmere had the worst nutrient status of 140 lakes around New Zealand that it measured. In 2011, the National Government committed to spending $15 million across the country through the Fresh Start for...
    Greens | 08-10
  • Adding value not herbicides
    The HT swedes, and other brassicas, might seem like a good idea to farmers struggling against weeds but like the GE road, is this the path we want our agriculture to be treading? The Federated Farmers President, Dr William Rolleston...
    Greens | 07-10
  • ‘Blame the Planner’ bizarre approach to child poverty
    The National Government is stooping to a bizarre new low in blaming "planning processes" for poverty and inequality, after spending six years doing nothing about either the housing market or child poverty, the Green Party said today. Finance Minister Bill...
    Greens | 07-10
  • Media Advisory
    MANA Leader, Hone Harawira will not be available to speak with media today regarding his release “Recount Just One Step To restoring Credibility”. He is however available for media comment tomorrow, Tuesday the 8th of October, all media arrangements are...
    Mana | 07-10
  • RECOUNT JUST ONE STEP TO RESTORING CREDIBILITY
    “I have applied for a judicial recount of the votes in the Tai Tokerau election because it is one step in trying to restore credibility to the electoral process in the north, and, I suspect, in all other Maori electorates...
    Mana | 07-10
  • MANA SEEKS TAI TOKERAU RECOUNT
    The MANA Movement is supporting Leader Hone Harawira’s application for a judicial re-count in the Te Tai Tokerau electorate for the 2014 general election. President Lisa McNab says there are a number of serious issues of concern regarding the ability...
    Mana | 07-10
  • MANA to fight mass privatisation of state housing
    Announcements over the past 12 hours from the Minister responsible for Housing New Zealand, Bill English, and Minister for Social Housing, Paula Bennett, make clear the government’s intention for the mass privatisation of state housing. This comes during the middle...
    Mana | 07-10
  • Journalists have right to protect sources
    Legal authorities must respect the right of journalist Nicky Hager to protect the source of his material for his Dirty Politics book under Section 68 of the Evidence Act, Acting Labour Leader David Parker says. “It is crucial in an...
    Labour | 06-10
  • It shouldn’t take the Army to house the homeless
    National’s move to speed up its state house sell-off shows it is bankrupt of new ideas, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “National has been in office for six years, yet the housing crisis has got worse every month and...
    Labour | 06-10
  • Government must lift social housing supply, not shuffle the deck chairs
    National's decision to shift the state provision of housing to third parties is a smokescreen for the Government decreasing the provision of affordable housing, the Green Party said today."What National should be doing is increasing the supply of both social...
    Greens | 06-10
  • Election 2014 – the final count
    While we have to wait for the final booth level counts we can now see how well we did in the specials and look at electorate level data. First off special votes (and disallowed/recounted votes etc). There was a change...
    Greens | 06-10
  • We need more houses, not Ministers
    The Government’s decision to have three housing Ministers will create a dog’s breakfast of the portfolio and doesn’t bode well for fixing the country’s housing crisis, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “New Zealanders need more houses, not more Ministers....
    Labour | 05-10
  • MANA’S CHALLENGE TO THE 51st PARLIAMENT
    Ten years ago I led 50,000 Maori on the historic FORESHORE AND SEABED MARCH from Te Rerenga Wairua to the very steps of this parliament, in a march against the greatest land grab in the history of this country –...
    Mana | 03-10
  • Is this really necessary?
    No one denies chief executives should be well paid for their skills and experience, but it is the efforts of all employees which contribute to company profits, Labour’s Acting Leader David Parker says. “Salaries paid to chief executives come at...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Lyttelton Port workers also deserve pay rises
    Hard slog by Lyttelton Port workers contributed to strong financial growth for the company and they deserve to be rewarded for their work as much as its chief executive, says Labour’s Acting Leader David Parker. “Lyttelton Port chief executive Peter...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Māori Party must seek guarantees on Māori seats
    Labour is calling on the Māori Party to ensure protection of the Māori seats is part of its coalition deal with National which is being considering this weekend, Labour’s Māori Affairs spokesperson Nanaia Mahuta says. “For the third consecutive term,...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Donaghys job losses another blow to Dunedin
    The loss of 30 jobs from Donaghys rope and twine factory is yet another blow to the people and economy of Dunedin, says Dunedin South Labour MP Clare Curran. “Donaghys was founded in 1876; the company has survived two world...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Dairy price fall shows urgent need to diversify
    The overnight drop in milk prices shows New Zealand’s overreliance on the dairy industry puts our economy in a vulnerable position, says Acting Labour Leader David Parker. “Dairy prices fell 7.3 per cent overnight and have almost halved since February....
    Labour | 02-10
  • Tasks aplenty for new Health Minister
    One of the first jobs for the new Minister of Health must be to provide an honest and transparent report into surgery waiting times and exactly how many Kiwis are not having their health needs met, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette...
    Labour | 02-10
  • About Curwen Ares Rolinson
    Curwen Ares Rolinson – Curwen Ares Rolinson is a firebrand young nationalist presently engaged in acts of political resistance deep behind enemy lines amidst the leafy boughs of Epsom. He is affiliated with the New Zealand First Party; although his...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kelly Ellis
    Kelly Ellis.Kelly Ellis – As a child, Kelly Ellis didn’t so much fall into the cracks, but willfully wriggled her way into them. Ejected from Onslow College – a big job in the 70s – Kelly worked in car factories,...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kate Davis
    Kate Davis.Kate Davis – Having completed her BA in English and Politics, Kate is now starting her MA. Kate works as a volunteer advocate at Auckland Action Against Poverty and previously worked for the New Zealand Prostitutes Collective. Kate writes...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Parker does a Shearer – oh for a Labour Leader who can challenge msm fals...
    Sigh. It seems David Parker has done a Shearer… Like a cult and too red – Parker on LabourLabour leadership contender David Parker says Labour borders on feeling like “a cult” and must look at its branding – including its...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • A brief word on the hundreds of millions NZ is spending on the secret intel...
    The enormity of the mass surveillance state NZ Government’s have built carries a huge price tag… Kiwis pay $103m ‘membership fee’ for spyingThe $103 million taxpayer funding of New Zealand’s intelligence agencies is effectively a membership fee for joining the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Where. Is. Jason. Ede?
    Where. Is. Jason. Ede?...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Labour’s Din of Inequity
    Watching Labour’s leadership candidates on Q+A on Sunday, I noticed the ongoing use of terms like “opportunity” and “aspiration”, and “party of the workers”. What do these mean? We glean much from Labour, and from the media about Labour, but not...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • “Blue-Greenwash” fails the test when it comes to endangered dolphins
    National’s pre-election promises saw some wins for the environment – perhaps as the party sought to appease its “Blue-Green” voters and broaden its popular appeal. Some of the ecological gains were a long time in the making, overdue even– such...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Reasons not to be cheerful, Part #272b
    Why don’t you get back into bed? The next few years — the rest of this century — are not going to be pretty. There is an obvious disconnect between any remaining political ambition to fix climate change and the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • OIA protocols and official advice ignored to hide Child Poverty
    It might not seem so now, but child poverty was a major election issue. What a pity we did not have the full debate. In that debate it would have been very helpful to have seen the Ministry of Social...
    The Daily Blog | 20-10
  • Previewing the 4 candidates for Leader of the Labour Party
    The extraordinary outbursts by Shearer last week highlights just how toxic that Caucus is. Shearer was on every major media platform as the ABC attack dog tearing into Cunliffe in the hope of diminishing Cunliffe’s support of Little by tearing...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – the sudden explosion of ‘left’ blogs
    Time to Teach or more people will suffer from P.A.I.D. Political And Intellectual Dysmorphia.I was on the Twitter and a guy followed me so of course I did the polite thing and followed him back. He wrote a blog so...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Ego vs Eco
    Ego vs Eco...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • We can’t let the Roastbuster case slip away
    Those of us (like me) left with hope that the police would aggressively follow through on the large amount of evidence on offer to them (let’s not forget they forgot they even had some at one point) in the Roastbusters...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Food, shelter and medicine instead of bombs and bullets
    The on-going conflict across the Middle East – due in large part to the US-led invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq – has created another humanitarian crisis of biblical proportion. The essentials of life are desperately needed in Iraq and Syria...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • The politics of electorate accommodations
    National’s electorate accommodations with ACT and United Future were a big factor in it winning re-election. Interestingly, there is another electorate accommodation scenario whereby the centre-left could have come out on top, even with the same distribution of party votes....
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Why you should join the TPPA Action on 8 November
    On 8 November 2014, thousands of Kiwis will take part in the International Day of Action to protest the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA). The rally cry for us is TPPA – Corporate Trap, Kiwis Fight Back. Why should you join...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • GUEST BLOG – Patrick O’Dea: no new coal mines
    Green Party and Mana Party policy is “NO NEW COAL MINES!” Auckland Coal Action is trying to put this policy into action on the ground. ACA after a hard fought two year campaign waged alongside local residents and Iwi, in...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Comparing Police action – Hager raid vs Roast Buster case
    This satire had the NZ Police contact TDB and threaten us with 6months in prison for using their logo.   The plight of Nicky Hager and the draconian Police actions against him has generated over  $53 000 in donations so...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • Malala Yousafzai, White Saviour Complexes and Local Resistance
    Last week, Malala Yousafzai was the co-recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize. Since her exposure to the worldwide spotlight, her spirit, wisdom and strength have touched the hearts of people everywhere. However, there have been cynics who have argued that...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • Jason Ede is back – but no media can interview him?
    Well, well, well. Jason Ede, the main figure connected to John Key’s office and the Dirty Politics black ops is back with a company with deep ties to the National Party. One thing you can say about the right –...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Leadership Transitions In Other Parties: A ...
    As cannot have escaped anyone’s attention by now, the country is presently in the grips of an election and campaign that will help determine the fate of the nation for years to come. It’s gripping stuff – with clear divides...
    The Daily Blog | 17-10
  • SkyCity worker says she faces losing her house
    SkyCity worker Carolyn Alpine told the company annual shareholder’s meeting today that she faced the prospect of losing her house because the company had cut her shifts from two a week to one without consultation. The solo mother, has worked...
    The Daily Blog | 17-10
  • Greg O’Connor’s latest push to arm cops & 5 reasons not to
    I was wondering at what point within a 3rd term of National that Police Cheerleader Greg O’Connor would start trying to demand cops be armed. O’Connor must have thought to himself, ‘if bloody Key can get us and the GCSB vast new...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • You can’t have crisis without ISIS
    So the new scary bogeyman ISIS might have chemical weapons that the US secretly found in Iraq, but America didn’t want to expose this find because the WMDs were actually built and made by the US and Europe, the two powers...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • NZ WINS UN SPIN THE BOTTLE! Privately sucking up to America for a decade me...
    Oh, we are loved! Little old NZ, the 53rd state of America after Israel and Australia, gets to sit at the adults table for the special dinner party that is the UN Security Council. How delightful, a decade of privately...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • MEDIA BLOG – Myles Thomas – A World Without Advertising
    Non-commercial broadcasting and media. It’s a solution for all manner of problems ailing our tender nation… voter engagement, unaccountable governance, apathy, stupefaction, public education, science in schools, arts appreciation, cultural cringe… But no-one could’ve guessed that non-commercial media might solve...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • March against war – 2pm Saturday 25th October
    March against war – 2pm Saturday 25th October...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • Whack a mole as US govt foreign policy
    Whack-A-Mole was a popular arcade game from my youth.  It consisted of a waist high cabinet with holes in the top. Plastic moles seemingly randomly pop out of these holes. The purpose of the game was to hit as many...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • In Paean of Debt
    This week is ‘Money Week’. It’s an opportunity to promote to the middle classes, and anyone else who will listen, the virtues of wise ‘investment’. The aims are to promote the mystical (and indeed mythical) virtues of saving for the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • The last 48 hours – Poverty denial, war denial and unapologetic abuse of ...
    The bewildering speed of events that simply end in Key shrugging and proclaiming he doesn’t really give a shit is coming think and fast as the Government suddenly appreciate the full spectrum dominance they now enjoy. Here is Radio NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – Mana 2.0 Rebooted
    Internationally the news is that Evo Morales of Bolivia won big with Left Wing policies But what are the chances that the Left will make a resurgence in this country? As the internecine struggles between the Left and the Right...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • The Blomfield IPCA letter – Has Dirty Politics leaked into the NZ Police ...
    It’s difficult to know what to make of the IPCA letter to Matthew Blomfield over Slater’s continued insistence that the hard drive taken from Matthew wasn’t stolen.  Slater has selectively cherry picked the Police referring back to his claim that Blomfeild perjured...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • ​Media release: Rail and Maritime Transport Union – Auckland move for K...
    The Rail and Maritime Transport Union is questioning a KiwiRail proposal to progressively relocate its Zero Harm personnel from Wellington to Auckland. “The purpose of the Zero Harm team is to drive KiwiRail’s performance in health and safety.  Rail is a...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • Amnesty International – Friend request from an IS militant
    There’s always that one person, that one Facebook friend, usually a musician or event promoter, who, when you so foolishly accept their friend request, will completely inundate your news feed with copious event invitations and promotions. The person who, despite...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • NZ should follow the UK and recognize the Palestinian state
    Over the past two weeks, the United Kingdom and Sweden have made headlines through their decisions to recognize the state of Palestine. They are hardly the first nations to do so. Indeed, 134 countries have, in various ways, given formal...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • The Discordant Chimes of Freedom: Why Labour has yet to be forgiven.
    WHY DOES THE ELECTORATE routinely punish Labour and the Greens for their alleged “political correctness” but not National? It just doesn’t seem fair. Consider, for example, the Crimes (Substituted Section 59) Amendment Act 2007 – the so-called “anti-smacking legislation” –...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • Hosking or Henry – Which right wing crypto fascist clown do you want to w...
    So Mediaworks are finally going to make some actual money from their eye watering contract with Paul Henry by launching a new multi-platform Breakfast show over TV, Radio and internet. This is great news for Campbell Live who have dodged...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Families need more money to reduce child poverty
    Prime Minister John Key is mistaken to rule out extending the In Work Tax Credit to all poor children (The Nation 11th Oct) and Child Poverty Action Group challenges government advisors to come up with a more cost effective way...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – Don’t shit on my dream
    Once were dreamers. A large man, walks down the road and, even from 200 yards there’s light showing between his big arms and bigger body. It’s as if he’s put tennis balls under his arms. Two parking wardens walk out...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Labour and ‘special interests’
    The media narrative of Labour is that it is unpopular because it’s controlled by ‘special interests’. This ‘special interests’ garbage is code for gays, Maoris, wimin and unionists. We should show that argument the contempt it deserves. The next Labour...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Ru...
    . . Continued from: Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Tahi) . National’s housing development project: ‘Gateway’ to confusion . Perhaps nothing better illustrates National’s lack of a coherent housing programme than the ‘circus’ that is...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Here’s what WINZ are patronisingly saying to people on welfare when they ...
    Yesterday, a case manager from WINZ called to tell me that I needed to “imagine what I would do if I did not have welfare”. I replied “Well, I guess if I couldn’t live at home, I would be homeless.”...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • David Shearer’s ‘no feminist chicks’ mentality highlights all that is...
    Mr Nasty pays a visit Shearer’s extraordinary outburst last night on NZs favourite redneck TV, The Paul Henry Show, is a reminder of all that is wrong within the Labour Caucus right now… He said the current calls for a female or...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Greenpeace 1 – Shell 0
    Greenpeace 1 – Shell 0...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – A Tale Of Two Cities
    Sunday was surreal. I went for a drive and ended up in a different country. It wasn’t intentional but those days of too many literally intertextual references seldom are. There is no doubt that the Sunday drive this week had...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Key raises terror threat level to justify war in Iraq and now the SIS need ...
    Have we learned nothing from rushing into war? It’s embarrassing Key has raised our terror threat from ‘very low’ to ‘low’ so he can justify military action in Iraq. Watching him pimp for an American war is as sick as...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Socialism? in France; Austerity in Europe
    On Sunday I stumbled upon this recent New York Times column The Fall of France by Paul Krugman. Then I caught BBC’s Newsnight interview with France’s ‘Socialist’ Prime Minister Manuel Valls. Krugman notes that the Socialists came to power on an anti-austerity mandate, but completely squandered their opportunity...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • So Snowden and Greenwald were right – again – NZ Embassies spying for A...
    Well, well, well. What do we have here… NZ embassies involved in covert intelligence work for US – reportsNew Zealand’s embassies have been involved in covert intelligence gathering work on behalf of the United States, a fresh batch of classified...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Why David Parker *isn’t* a credible choic...
    The one electoral contest this year that a Labour leader is sure to win heated up over the weekend with the late entry of Finance Spokesman (and interim caretaker leader) David Parker into Labour’s leadership race. I’d blogged late last...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • DIA undercover investigation leads to jailing
    An undercover Internal Affairs investigation has led to a Hastings man being jailed for three and half years....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Call on Minister McCully to pursue the case of Balibo Five
    Media Information: Call on Minister McCully to pursue the case of journalist Gary Cunningham and the Balibo Five...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Australia and NZ actions on press freedoms alarming
    Global support for investigative journalism in Australia and New Zealand is a welcome response to law changes and a police raid, says the Pacific Freedom Forum...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Call for release of French journalists in West Papua
    West Papua Action Auckland, the EPMU Print and Media Council and the NZ Media Freedom Network call on the Minister of Foreign Affairs to speak out in support of the two French TV journalists whose trial has just begun in...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Court of Appeal: Dotcom v 20th Century Fox Film Corporation
    A The appeal is dismissed. B The 20 August 2014 order of the High Court dealing with confidentiality and the 29 August 2014 order of this Court dealing with confidentiality are set aside. C The confidentiality orders set out in...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Glassons Blasted For Glamourising Animal Cruelty
    Clothing brand Glassons have found themselves embroiled in another controversy after launching a new advert featuring a girl riding a bull. Animal advocacy organisation SAFE have asked them to remove the ad immediately as it glamourises animal cruelty....
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Smuggling honey into New Zealand isn’t sweet
    Smuggling honey into New Zealand isn’t sweet Federated Farmers Bee Industry Group applauds the tough line taken by Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI) Border Staff at Auckland Airport. In deporting the couple found trying to smuggle bee products...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Taxpayers’ Union Responds to Joyce on Corporate Welfare
    Responding to Economic Development Minister Steven Joyce’s defence of corporate welfare , Jim Rose, the author of Monopoly Money , a Taxpayers Union report on corporate welfare since 2008, says:...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Speech from the Throne brings welcome focus on children
    Today’s speech from the Throne confirms the Government’s focus on children, youth and their families in the areas of health, education, youth employment, poverty alleviation and Whānau Ora; now the challenge is to ensure every child in New Zealand...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • John’s Job Fairs no fix for unemployment and poverty
    “John Key has clearly been looking to the US for his latest bright idea on dealing with employment issues,” says Auckland Action Against Poverty coordinator Sue Bradford. “Job fairs where the desperately unemployed queue in their corporate best to compete...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Speech From the Throne Foreshadows More Corporate Welfare
    Responding to the Governor General’s Speech from the Throne, which outlined that the Government’s intentions for the next Parliamentary term would include further Business Growth Agenda initiatives, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Green MP to speak at panel on Rainbow Mental Health
    Hamilton, New Zealand: Recently re-elected Green Party MP Jan Logie will be a guest speaker at a panel on the mental health of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Trangender, Takataapui and Intersex people taking place on November 1st as part of the...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Evidence Supports GE Moratorium
    Federated Farmers spokesman Graham Smith's call for a 'rethink' on release of GeneticallyEngineered organisms is misguided, and instead it is time for a formal moratorium on GMOs in the environment.(1)...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Chatham Rise mining could have impact on whales and dolphins
    Wellington, 21 October 2014--Mining phosphate on the Chatham Rise, off the east coast of New Zealand’s south island, could potentially have many impacts on marine mammals like whales and dolphins, the Environmental Protection Agency was told today....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Council endorses Nanaia Mahuta as the next Labour leader
    Te Kaunihera Māori, the Māori Council of the New Zealand Labour Party, have passed a resolution to endorse the Hon Nanaia Mahuta as the next leader of the Labour Party...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Kaumatua to organise petition to end Maori seats
    Ngapuhi kaumatua David Rankin has announced that he will be organising a nationwide petition to seek support from Maori voters to end the Maori seats. “These seats are patronising”, he says. “They imply we need a special status, and that...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Announcing a New Voice for The Left
    Josh Forman is pleased to announce the creation of a new force on the Left of politics in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Public services held back by poor workplace culture
    A new report by Victoria University’s Centre for Labour, Employment and Work shows that public servants are working significant unpaid overtime to ensure the public services New Zealanders value are able to continue....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • iPredict New Zealand Weekly Economic & Political Update
    Andrew Little’s probability of being the next leader of the Labour Party has reached 70% and Jacinda Ardern is favourite to become his deputy, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Prison Drug Treatment Unit marks a milestone
    Christchurch Men’s Prison’s Drug Treatment Unit (DTU) celebrated the completion of its 50th six month Drug and Alcohol Programme today, with the graduation of a further twelve offenders....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Security Council seat a chance for NZ to empower women
    The UN Women National Committee Aotearoa New Zealand (UN Women NCANZ) welcomes New Zealand winning a seat on the United Nations Security Council and is calling on New Zealand to use its position to proactively promote effective implementation of the...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Waipareira and ACC sign Partnership
    Waipareira and The Accident Compensation Corporation (ACC) have signed a Memorandum of Understanding at Whanau Centre, Henderson – marking a special day for the West Auckland Urban Maori organisation....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Humanitarian aid desperately needed in Iraq and Syria
    Global Peace and Justice Auckland is calling on the government to provide humanitarian funding for non-aligned NGOs (non-governmental organisations) in the Middle East rather than give any support whatever for the US-led military campaign in the area....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Court Judicial Decision: Dotcom v The USA: 17 October 2014
    The United States of America is seeking the extradition of Messrs Dotcom, Batato, Ortmann and Van Der Kolk. The matter has been before the Courts on numerous occasions, and no further recitation of the facts is needed....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Marshall Island poet speaks at UN climate summit
    “The fossil fuel industry is the biggest threat to our very existence as Pacific Islanders. We stand to lose our homes, our communities and our culture. But we are fighting back. This coming Friday thirty Pacific Climate Warriors, joined by...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Many tourist car accidents preventable
    Simple steps could dramatically reduce the number of accidents involving tourists, says the car review website dogandlemon.com ....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • RainbowYOUTH: 25 Years, 25 More
    In 1989, a group of young people in Auckland got together to form a support group for LGBTIQ youth. They called it Auckland Lesbian And Gay Youth (ALGY). After 25 years, several location changes, a name change, a brand reboot...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Outdated Oath shows need for Kiwi Head of State
    MPs are sworn in today and New Zealand Republic has written to MPs asking them to talk about why 121 New Zealanders elected by the people of New Zealand and standing in the New Zealand Parliament swear allegiance to another...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Council shouldn’t revenue grab from windfall valuations
    Auckland Council should state clearly they will not try and capture revenue as a result of the latest valuations and needs reminding that the City’s skyrocketing property values doesn’t change the level or cost of Council’s services, says...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • EPMU endorses Andrew Little for Labour leadership
    The National Executive of the Engineering, Printing and Manufacturing Union unanimously endorsed Andrew Little for the role of Labour leader, at a meeting held yesterday. “I have been speaking to our workplace delegates at forums across the country over...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • World Food Day promotes Agroecology not GE technology
    The UN has stated that agroecology is a major solution to feeding the world and caring for the earth....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Labour Names Review Team
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has appointed Bryan Gould as Convenor of its post-General Election Review. He will be joined on the Review Team by Hon Margaret Wilson, Stacey Morrison and Brian Corban....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Contenders for Labour leadership debate for first time
    The contenders for the leadership of the Labour Party debated for the first time on TV One’s Q+A programme today....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • UN Ambassador Jim McLay on TV One’s Q+A programme
    New Zealand's United Nations Ambassador Jim McLay on TV One’s Q+A programme....
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • The Nation: RSA President BJ Clark & Ian Taylor, New NZ Flag
    Lisa Owen interviews RSA President BJ Clark and tech innovator Ian Taylor about changing the NZ flag...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • The Nation: RSA President BJ Clark & Ian Taylor, New NZ Flag
    Lisa Owen interviews RSA President BJ Clark and tech innovator Ian Taylor about changing the NZ flag...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • Lisa Owen interviews Foreign Minister Murray McCully
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