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	<title>Comments on: ETS &#8211; last chance!</title>
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		<title>By: Our word is our bond at The Standard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ets-last-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-174488</link>
		<dc:creator>Our word is our bond at The Standard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Maori Party membership, to those who have not forgotten their principles, to those who wanted to keep their word, to those who were ignored and betrayed by their own &#8220;leaders&#8221; &#8211; the next move is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Maori Party membership, to those who have not forgotten their principles, to those who wanted to keep their word, to those who were ignored and betrayed by their own &#8220;leaders&#8221; &#8211; the next move is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lew</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ets-last-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-174405</link>
		<dc:creator>Lew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3095679/Controversial-ETS-bill-passed-in-urgency&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;done&lt;/a&gt;. 

L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3095679/Controversial-ETS-bill-passed-in-urgency" rel="nofollow">done</a>. </p>
<p>L</p>
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		<title>By: gobsmacked</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ets-last-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-174375</link>
		<dc:creator>gobsmacked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bring Back Doug! 

11.23 am, Doug sagely informs us it&#039;s a non-story. &quot;Not reported in any other News source.&quot; 

Heh. Best call since John McCain picked Sarah Palin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bring Back Doug! </p>
<p>11.23 am, Doug sagely informs us it&#8217;s a non-story. &#8220;Not reported in any other News source.&#8221; </p>
<p>Heh. Best call since John McCain picked Sarah Palin.</p>
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		<title>By: Lew</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ets-last-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-174351</link>
		<dc:creator>Lew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least he didn&#039;t call her &#039;Turiana&#039;...

L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least he didn&#8217;t call her &#8216;Turiana&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>L</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ets-last-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-174348</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeeze tc! It&#039;s &lt;i&gt; TURIA &lt;/i&gt; and Sharples, not Turei/Sharples. 
Wrong party. Metiria Turei is the Green&#039;s co-leader. 
Tariana Turia is the one having her stomach stapled and her mana destroyed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeeze tc! It&#8217;s <i> TURIA </i> and Sharples, not Turei/Sharples.<br />
Wrong party. Metiria Turei is the Green&#8217;s co-leader.<br />
Tariana Turia is the one having her stomach stapled and her mana destroyed.</p>
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		<title>By: prism</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ets-last-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-174329</link>
		<dc:creator>prism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone out there recognises that the ETS agreement concerning forestry possibilities for Maori is too narrow - ties them to growing trees when there could be more business opportunities in other businesses.  They need to reneg on the present deal and get it sorted to be appropriate for them, the whiteside have done it often enough.  Big business is getting advantages, why shouldn&#039;t they.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone out there recognises that the ETS agreement concerning forestry possibilities for Maori is too narrow &#8211; ties them to growing trees when there could be more business opportunities in other businesses.  They need to reneg on the present deal and get it sorted to be appropriate for them, the whiteside have done it often enough.  Big business is getting advantages, why shouldn&#8217;t they.</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ets-last-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-174315</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just noise from the CCDs - pretty boring really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just noise from the CCDs &#8211; pretty boring really.</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ets-last-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-174314</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah no. Just have a few dick head CCDs doing what they have always done. Everyone else pretty much ignoring it. Me, I&#039;m just playing with the food, like a cat plays with a mouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah no. Just have a few dick head CCDs doing what they have always done. Everyone else pretty much ignoring it. Me, I&#8217;m just playing with the food, like a cat plays with a mouse.</p>
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		<title>By: Maori caucus divided on ETS? at The Standard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ets-last-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-174313</link>
		<dc:creator>Maori caucus divided on ETS? at The Standard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ururoa Flavell is doing what he can to play down internal divisions that suggested the party could vote against John Key&#8217;s Emissions Trading [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ururoa Flavell is doing what he can to play down internal divisions that suggested the party could vote against John Key&#8217;s Emissions Trading [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal's bookie</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ets-last-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-174308</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal's bookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s no good snoozer, they&#039;re on to us...

http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/11/23/the-manchurian-beckidate/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s no good snoozer, they&#8217;re on to us&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/11/23/the-manchurian-beckidate/" rel="nofollow">http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/11/23/the-manchurian-beckidate/</a></p>
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		<title>By: gobsmacked</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ets-last-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-174307</link>
		<dc:creator>gobsmacked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tragedy is, the Maori Party have broken a basic rule of Politics 101: use up your political capital on your &lt;i&gt;own&lt;/i&gt; priorities. Not digging some other party out of a hole.

The Maori Party was always going to face flak if it wanted to advance its goals, especially from &quot;mainstream&quot; middle NZ. But what have they achieved? A flag?

The Foreshore &amp; Seabed has been reviewed and consulted and discussed and &lt;i&gt;no law has changed&lt;/i&gt;. Nothing will happen until well into 2010. Will the Maori Party hold together until then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tragedy is, the Maori Party have broken a basic rule of Politics 101: use up your political capital on your <i>own</i> priorities. Not digging some other party out of a hole.</p>
<p>The Maori Party was always going to face flak if it wanted to advance its goals, especially from &#8220;mainstream&#8221; middle NZ. But what have they achieved? A flag?</p>
<p>The Foreshore &amp; Seabed has been reviewed and consulted and discussed and <i>no law has changed</i>. Nothing will happen until well into 2010. Will the Maori Party hold together until then?</p>
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		<title>By: ParkDrive</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ets-last-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-174305</link>
		<dc:creator>ParkDrive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hone wouldn&#039;t vote for it I don&#039;t think

Tigger : :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hone wouldn&#8217;t vote for it I don&#8217;t think</p>
<p>Tigger : <img src='http://thestandard.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Draco T Bastard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ets-last-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-174302</link>
		<dc:creator>Draco T Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the MP certainly have a different definition of integrity than pretty much everyone else then.

EDIT:
Pretty sure this will spell the end of the MP actually. They&#039;re proving themselves untrustworthy to the majority of their supporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the MP certainly have a different definition of integrity than pretty much everyone else then.</p>
<p>EDIT:<br />
Pretty sure this will spell the end of the MP actually. They&#8217;re proving themselves untrustworthy to the majority of their supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: tc</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ets-last-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-174301</link>
		<dc:creator>tc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remove Hone from the picture, dangle the MP re-entry card carrot for him, but keep his block vote was a sly tactic.

MP must surely realise that Turei/Sharples aren&#039;t fit to lead them if it&#039;s come to this so time to run a book on who sits next to the ineffective Sharples with a limo and nice office next term.....oh assuming they form part of a coalition that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remove Hone from the picture, dangle the MP re-entry card carrot for him, but keep his block vote was a sly tactic.</p>
<p>MP must surely realise that Turei/Sharples aren&#8217;t fit to lead them if it&#8217;s come to this so time to run a book on who sits next to the ineffective Sharples with a limo and nice office next term&#8230;..oh assuming they form part of a coalition that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Bored</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/ets-last-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-174300</link>
		<dc:creator>Bored</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Churchill&#039;s terms now is the &quot;hour of crisis&#039;. It&#039;s pretty obvious to anybody with half a brain that to commit to a lasting solution to the ETS means a consensus is required across all political parties. This requires that John Key stands up and acts like a statesman, and leads a non party based discussion and vote by the whole of the house. Goff needs to invite him to do so and support him through this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Churchill&#8217;s terms now is the &#8220;hour of crisis&#8217;. It&#8217;s pretty obvious to anybody with half a brain that to commit to a lasting solution to the ETS means a consensus is required across all political parties. This requires that John Key stands up and acts like a statesman, and leads a non party based discussion and vote by the whole of the house. Goff needs to invite him to do so and support him through this.</p>
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