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Explaining is losing

Written By: - Date published: 4:58 pm, November 27th, 2012 - 73 comments
Categories: david shearer, john key, Judith Collins - Tags:

David Shearer had Key on the back foot today in the House over Labour’s housing policy. It’s a good policy, and Key’s long-winded explanations didn’t answer Shearer’s pointed questions; even Speaker Lockwood Smith sat Key down for going on too long and off the point. Key had to be rescued by Chief Whip Michael Woodhouse with a patsy question, but the leadership crack it was designed to bring out fell flat too.

Labour’s housing policy is good: practical, specific, getting the economy going, meeting real needs that matter to Kiwis. Shearer means it when he talks about “hands-on government” – what a contrast to Key’s  “hands-off can’t remember” approach.

Judith Collins sat beside Key. She looked lovely in pink.

73 comments on “Explaining is losing”

  1. One Tāne Huna 1

    On the back foot?

    Was that how it looked from Planet Smith?

    • infused 1.1

      lol. labour was whipped… what planet are you guys on.

    • To be honest, there were no crocodile grins or shark eyes by any of the national members. John Key was particularly ruffled by the end as well. I don’t care if it’s David C, S, P or anyone, provided they show some teamwork.

      Also, does anyone actually know what Tariana Turia is saying? I think it is English but I am not sure…

    • David H 1.3

      Yep you got to hand it to Key he can take a baseless line of bullshit, and just spin it to fit whatever the situation requires.

      Shearer??

  2. Pascal's bookie 2

    “but the leadership crack it was designed to bring out fell flat too.~

    I thought we weren’t going to be seeing any of them. All put to rest.

  3. Zetetic 3

    I can’t work out why Shearer doesn’t go to one of the many $300k range townhouse developments, rather than touring half mil four bedroom villas. They’re nice and they actually prove his policy is viable – well, that part of it

  4. chris 4

    Oh really? That’s Key being put in his place? Us left wing voters really are fucked..

  5. fisiani 5

    [lprent: I was very tempted to leave this in spam because it should be linked (and I bet it has a place alreday on the net). But I'll leave it here for discussion ]

    Every 11.5 minutes of the working week Shearer has promised what follows below. I have made it simple enough for people to understand. No wonder he could not defend it. Nor could he defend how he can find 100,000 sections each at $50,000 cos it’s indefensible.
    It’s a plot I tell thee. Someone has set him up for failure and ridicule. It’s the only possible explanation.

    1. STAKE LOT

    2. TEMPORARY UTILITIES

    3. CLEAR AND ROUGH GRADE

    4. WELL

    5. EXCAVATE

    6. FOOTINGS

    7. FOUNDATION

    8. WATERPROOF AND FOUNDATION DRAIN

    9. SEWER AND WATER TAPS

    10. BACKFILL

    11. SLAB PLUMBING

    12. SLAB OR BASEMENT FLOOR

    13. FRAMING, WINDOWS, AND EXT DOORS

    14. EXTERIOR SIDING AND TRIM

    15. GARAGE DOOR AND EXTERIOR LOCKS

    16. BACK-OUT FRAMING

    17. FIREPLACE AND CHIMNEY

    18. STAIRS

    19. ROUGH HVAC

    20. ROUGH PLUMBING

    21. ROOFING

    22. ROUGH ELECTRICAL

    23. ELECTRIC & GAS METER SET

    24. GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUTS

    25. EXTERIOR PAINT 26. INSULATION

    27. TEMPORARY HEAT

    28. DRYWALL

    29. CABINETS

    30. INTERIOR DOORS AND TRIM

    31. PAINT AND WALLPAPER

    32. WOOD FLOORS

    33. COUNTER TOPS

    34. VINYL AND CERAMIC TILE

    35. SAND AND FINISH WOOD FLOORS

    36. APPLIANCES & SPECIAL EQUIPM’T

    37. FINISH ELECTRICAL

    38. FINISH PLUMBING

    39. FINISH HVAC & FINAL HEAT

    40. SHOWER DOORS AND MIRRORS

    41. CARPET

    42. HARDWARE AND SCREENS

    43. DRYWALL REPAIRS

    44. CLEAN UP

    45. FINAL PAINT

    46. FINAL WOOD FLOOR FINISH

    47. RETAINING WALLS

    48. WALKS, DRIVES, AND PATIOS

    49. SEPTIC TANK AND DRAIN FIELD

    50. FINISH GRADING & LANDSCAPING

    1. STAKE LOT
    One of the first steps of building a home is locating your new home on its lot. This will usually involve a surveyor who will come out and accurately drive stakes to locate your home on the lot. They will be used by the excavators and foundation subcontractors to guide their work.

    2. TEMPORARY UTILITIES
    You will need to have water, electric power, and toilet facilities available during the construction process.

    3. CLEAR AND ROUGH GRADE
    Clearing is the removal of trees and undergrowth from the actual construction site and yard areas.

    Rough grading is moving the dirt around to establish the approximate drainage patterns, yard areas, drive and walk levels, etc. that you hope to achieve.

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    4. WELL
    If you are going to have a well, you might as well dig it up front so that you will have the water available for construction.

    5. EXCAVATE
    This is where a piece of earth-moving equipment digs the hole for your foundation, and, if you will have one, your basement.

    6. FOOTINGS
    This is the structure where the house interfaces with the earth that supports
    it. All of the weight of the home rests on the footings.

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    7. FOUNDATION
    The foundation is the wall on which the first floor rests. It may be short – if you will have a crawl space, or tall – if you will have a
    basement.

    8. WATERPROOFING AND FOUNDATION
    DRAIN
    A waterproofing material or membrane (or both) is applied to the foundation walls which will be below grade to minimize water accumulating in the basement or in the crawl space. Foundation drains run along the footings and remove water accumulating in that area.

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    9. SEWER AND WATER TAPS
    If you are connecting to municipal water and sewer, this is where the pipes are laid to the house and actually connected (tapped into) the water and sewer mains.

    10. BACKFILL
    Pushing the excavated dirt into the hole next to the foundation wall around the house (inside and out). This is a good time to establish the necessary drainage away from the house at the foundation wall.

    11. SLAB PLUMBING
    Any plumbing that needs to go into the basement floor is installed here.

    12. SLAB OR BASEMENT FLOOR
    The “slab” is the concrete basement floor. It is poured at this point. In some parts of the country, plans may call for a “structural wood floor” (more on this later). Now is when it would be installed.

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    13. FRAMING, WINDOWS, AND EXTERIOR DOORS
    This is one of the most magic steps of building a house because it’s where it really starts to look like a house! The floors, walls, ceiling, and roof are the focus of this construction activity. The framer usually installs the windows and exterior doors.

    14. EXTERIOR SIDING AND TRIM
    Whatever you’re using – brick veneer, siding, stucco, etc.- here is where it gets done.

    15. GARAGE DOOR AND EXTERIOR LOCKS
    Some people wait until the end to get the garage door in. But we think having it in place creates a good place to store materials and equipment during construction. Installing the exterior locks means that the wholehouse is secure.

    16. BACK-OUT FRAMING
    This is a general category that includes partition walls that have not been installed, pillars, soffits for wall cabinets, and drywall nailers.

    17. FIREPLACE AND CHIMNEY
    A prefabricated fireplace should be installed before the roughs (below). A prefab will have a framed chimney. A masonry fireplace and chimney can be installed before the brick veneer (see “Exterior Siding and Trim” above).

    18. STAIRS
    Get these in now so that the subs working inside can get from one floor to the other without depending on ladders.

    19. ROUGH HVAC
    The HVAC (heating, ventilation, air conditioning) sub is the first of the three “mechanical” subs (plumbing, electrical, HVAC) to come to the job. He will install the duct work for your HVAC system and possibly the furnace. He comes first because the stuff he puts into the walls is the biggest and most inflexible.

    20. ROUGH PLUMBING
    Next comes the plumber to install his pipes.

    21. ROOFING
    With plumbing and HVAC vent pipes through the roof, the roofer can install the roofing.

    22. ROUGH ELECTRICAL
    Codes call for the house to be “dried in” before the wiring is installed. With the exterior windows and doors in place and the roof on, it’s time. For roughs, the electrician will put in the boxes (switch, outlet, and lighting) and will pull the wires into them. Cable, telephone, speakerwires, etc. are also installed at this point.

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    23. ELECTRIC & GAS METER SET
    You’ll need these in place to get some heat in the house for the drywall installation.

    24. GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUTS
    It’s good to get the water away from the house as soon as possible.

    25. EXTERIOR PAINT
    Many surfaces on the outside need to be protected from the elements. So you’ll want to paint as soon as is practical.

    26. INSULATION
    Once everything else is in the walls and rough inspections are completed, it’s time to insulated your home.

    27. TEMPORARY HEAT
    With the meters set (above), the HVAC sub can get some temporary heat in the house. This will be critical for getting the drywall joint compound (mud) to dry in a timely fashion. The carpet sub also needs a warm home so that the carpet is installed at a temperature comparable to normal living conditions.

    28. DRYWALL
    Sometimes called “Sheetrock®.” This will be “hung” (nailed or screwed to the wall studs and ceiling joists), taped (at the joints), and “mudded” (joint compound applied) . . . after the in-wall plumbing, HVAC, electricals, and insulation have been inspected!

    29. CABINETS
    Base and wall.

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    30. INTERIOR DOORS AND TRIM
    The trim materials installed here may include the door casing, base mould, window stool and apron, window casing, chair rail, crown mould, built-in cabinets, stair railing parts, and others. This step also includes hanging the doors.

    31. PAINT AND WALLPAPER
    The first coat of paint is usually sprayed. Get it in before the hard wood floors are installed.

    32. HARDWOOD FLOORS
    Now it’s time to install your hardwood floors.

    33. COUNTER TOPS
    Counter tops are next. this may involve a different sub than the one who installed the cabinets.

    34. VINYL AND CERAMIC TILE
    Vinyl floor coverings and ceramic tile are installed. Two different subs. Probably should have made these two different steps, but I was trying to make it come out to an even 50!

    35. SAND AND FINISH WOOD FLOORS
    This is the first of two finishes. The last is done just before you move in.

    36. APPLIANCES AND SPECIAL EQUIPMENT
    This would include all of your major appliances – washer, dryer, range, oven, refrigerator, as well as any other special equipment you have specified.

    37. FINISH ELECTRICAL
    Here is where the electrician comes back to install the switches, outlets, light fixtures, ceiling fans, door bells, etc. He will also hook up the appliances, furnace, air conditioner, doorbell, and so forth.

    38. FINISH PLUMBING
    The plumber will install the sinks, lavatories,
    toilets, and all the faucets.

    39. FINISH HVAC & FINAL HEAT
    Your heating sub will install the registers and get the furnace and air conditioning running properly.

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    40. SHOWER DOORS AND MIRRORS
    Install shower doors. Hang mirrors.

    41. CARPET
    Now it’s starting to feel like home!

    42. HARDWARE AND SCREENS
    Typically, this is door, window, and closet hardware. Window screens.

    43. DRYWALL REPAIRS
    You may need to get the drywall subcontractor back out to patch some dings caused by the other subs’ work. This is normal.

    44. CLEAN UP
    This is the final interior clean up.

    45. FINAL PAINT
    Touching up drywall repairs and so forth.

    46. FINAL WOOD FLOOR FINISH
    This should be your last inside job before moving in.

    47. RETAINING WALLS
    These outside home building jobs can be going on while the work proceeds inside. You should not have these going on while the outside is being painted.

    48. WALKS, DRIVES, AND PATIOS
    You should wait until the drywall has been delivered to the home, because the drywall truck is VERY heavy, and could damage your flat work

    49. SEPTIC TANK AND DRAIN FIELD
    Same as above on the timing with regard to the drywall delivery. The tank holds the waste and allows microbic action on the solids. The drain field is where the effluent leaches into the soil.

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    50. FINISH GRADING AND LANDSCAPING
    The final finished grades are established to ensure proper drainage away from the home, and to prepare the yard for landscaping. Trees, shrubs, grass, etc. are installed.

    • McFlock 5.1

      Not a bad bet, oh great and glorious moderator :)
      The link has photos and everything. And is copyrighted, FYI. 

    • Lanthanide 5.2

      :roll:

      IMO you should’ve just left this in spam, and banned fisi if he tries it again. He’s repeated this same lame comment several times now and it’s clearly deliberate.

    • McFlock 5.3

      On the discussion side, I’m not sure the Labour policy is that Shearer will personally do everything on the list 100,000 times in the ten years to 2025.
              
      It might need improvement, but it’s not as deluded as fizzzz 

    • Draco T Bastard 5.4

      Every 11.5 minutes of the working week Shearer has promised what follows below.

      Yep and it’s been shown to you several times how it could be done and yet you still bring up this stupid BS about having to build an entire house in minutes.

      Really, you’re a fucken idiot.

      • David H 5.4.1

        Maybe we should let them in on the secret of building a lot of houses.

        Fisi

        You build them all at the same time using gangs of workers. NOT one at a time.

    • vto 5.5

      In 1941 …

      we sent 8,000 men off to World War II, which had been raging since the 1930s,
      the NZ government built 4,000 homes,
      our navy was bigger than today,
      and our airforce had stacks and stacks of awesome planes, much more than today,

      all with just 1.6 million people.

      fancy that.

      Things were much better in the old days. Bloody useless younger generation.

    • mike e 5.6

      Fishy looks like your swimming against the tide in the in the septic tank leaching away

    • David H 5.7

      Fisi WHY oh WHY do you persist with this 11.59 minutes.

      I’ll ask you a question How long does it take top make a Car, Just one? Answer A LONG time Ask Mclaren or Aston Martin they only make a few at a time. BY HAND.

      But Toyota in Japan can pump out a car every few minutes. It’s a nifty little invention Invented First by the Springfield Rifle company of America in the Civil War, and again by Henry Ford, it’s called a production line and Fisi it can be upscaled to build many houses. You just need a couple of things.

      1 A government willing to implement this. National=Fail
      2 the Land
      And Land like anything else you can always get a good price if you have the cash. And the best people at raising cash in huge quantities is a government. National would rather give this money to their mates in tax breaks than in doing anything that’s deemed to be good for the community at large. So again National=Fail.

      You may have seen that program on TV where they build a house in a week using an Army of people and suppliers, and as everyone is on the same page. Imagine that going on over a whole new housing community being built say a 500 house project being built BY an army of people. And the best part Everyone also has a job and has money so can afford to buy one of the thousands of houses they have built. It’s a no brainer, A win win. so Fisi just give it up, and admit that as a troll you are a failure, and you really need to find another interest.

      • Grant Hay 5.7.1

        Hey David. Not arguing but thought you might be interested to know that the earliest example of mass production using fully interchangeable parts that I am aware of was an agreement known as the Porter Contract, to supply clock movements and agreed between Eli Terry as the supplier and Edward Porter who commissioned the order for 4,000 30 hour wooden movements, dials, hands, pendulums and weights. The contract was signed in 1806 and the order was supplied on time by 1810. Point being, mass production is something that’s been around for a while…..

  6. Chalupa Batman 6

    Ok its good to be supportive and its great you’re trying to pump your man up and give him confidence but really you think this was Shearer getting on top of Key…

    • Treetop 6.1

      Good on Lockwood Smith for doing his job for a change regarding Key’s rambling. Smith has probably had enough of the B.S.

  7. Neologise 7

    Our great hope timidly asked one prepared question after another prepared question, hardly outstanding, I’ve seen intermediate school kids have better oratory debating skills.

  8. The Stepper 8

    Mike I hate to say it but you’re looking a bit desperate. As per the comments above, if that was Key on the back foot then Shearer will be in serious difficulty if Key decides to take the offensive.

    Presumably the crack (which may or may not have fallen flat) about Judith Collins was the very first in trying to establish a rumour about potential leadership challenges in National? Alternatively it was some kind of insult – I find it difficult in the extreme to believe it was genuinely meant – in which case what on earth did you expect to gain from that?

  9. Sunny 9

    Meanwhile Shearer and Robertson will look splendid in scab at the premiere of the Hobbit tomorrow.

  10. alwyn 10

    It was very lucky for David Parker in the house today that none of the National Ministers had a calculator handy when Parker made one of his wild claims.
    He said that building one house per hour, 24 hours per day, every day of the year came to 613,000 houses in 10 years.
    Well simple arithmetic says that the following calculation gives 87,360 houses in ten years
    24 (hrs/day) * 7 (days/week) * 52 (weeks/year) * 10 (years) = 87,360.
    This is the man who Labour regard as being fit to be the Minister of Finance. Where did they find him?
    The claim was made near the end of question 8 in Parliament today.

    • Fisiani 10.1

      Your maths is correct. Building one an hour 24/7 for 10 years would still be 13,000 short. Parker really stuffed up and Heatley called his bluff..

      The problem is that if we realistically limit it to a 40 hour working week and there are only 48 available working weeks then the inescapable maths means churning out a completed home every 11.52 minutes. Every summer barbeque will have a joke or two about this incompetance.

      • Draco T Bastard 10.1.1

        Actually, the joke would be about your and Nationals incompetence. The people who are fully incapable of understanding logistics.

        • vto 10.1.1.1

          Apparently the egyptians built the pyramids. Do you think they would have been a labour lot or a national lot?

          • Draco T Bastard 10.1.1.1.1

            I suspect that they were more used to dealing with the real economy rather than the delusional one (neo-liberalism) that seems to have been invented for the purpose of justifying capitalism and which National believes in.

            But other than that the rulers of Ancient Egypt would have been National supporters.

        • Treetop 10.1.1.2

          I saw the doco on child poverty on TV 3 last night. The condition of state housing (ventalation/mildew and heating) and how this contributes to child hospital admissions is not seen as an urgent issue for the government. The overcrowding resulted in scabies/school sores and the transmission of preventable disease which affect those under a year old, then those under five the most.

          • xtasy 10.1.1.2.1

            I saw it too, and I made sure I did.

            It was admittedly a bit “politically coloured”, but nevertheless, it made some real solid points and raised very valid arguments.

            The fact is: Both Labour during last governments, and certainly also National now, have done stuff all to address the appalling housing situation at Housing NZ, and also in general.

            It has been left to “the market” for too long.

            What impressed me immensely was that Swedish doctor or so, who had worked in Wellington Hospital (as I believe to remember), who upon being asked said very correctly, that in NZ, when a government changes, it goes up and down like a roller-coaster.

            We have a system, where there is no second house, no extra control to scrutinise the government, except the mostly useless select committees. So once a party dominated government takes over from one that is the opposite, they start turning everything upside down and inside out, to serve their needs and their ideological ideas and plans.

            This is different in Europe, and I have clearly seen it myself, when I returned to there after about 11 years of first living here. They had made changes, in a number of countries, but here, it was a “revolution” by the Chicago Boys like Douglas, Prebble, Richardson, Shipley and the likes.

            It happens again and again, government departments get changed, turned inside out, heads of departments, CEOs, and commissioners and what else, they all get changed to fit the new government’s preferences.

            All this bears immense costs, and who pays the damned costs? The bloody people!

            So when in Sweden there is a change of government, from left to right, or the other way around, it never causes the same upheaval as here. In NZ it is like mafia like hostile parties fighting over ground, and then stamping their ideas onto the system. Both major parties have been guilty of this. This serves very well the monetary and business interests, as they will set their lobbyists loose each time also, to influence the quasi dictatorial governments in NZ. It stinks to heaven, and NZ has third world diseases, unknown in Europe for over 50 years.

            BACKWARD and 3rd World minded, a lot of it is, what goes on here.

            So Shearer must have seen the program too, tried to take advantage of it by criticising Key and his lot, but it clearly BACK-FIRED badly!

  11. redfred 11

    Key looked like and sounded like a right a tosser, and it clearly showed they don’t want to do anything about the housing affordability.

    Poor National, clueless really.

  12. karol 12

    Didn’t Phil Heatley, in not answering Annette King’s question, repeat that line that right-wing bloggers and commenters have been circulating? ….about the number of houses Labour’s plan would require being built very hour. 

  13. gobsmacked 13

    I have genuine respect for Mike Smith and his years of sterling service to Labour, but I fear he has been drinking from the same “half full” glass as Anthony Robins. Unfortunately the glass is empty.

    Here’s how Spin works, gents … Do accentuate the positive, but Don’t insult people’s intelligence.

    If you say “Black is Grey”, some people will believe you. But if you’re going to insist “Black is White” then not only does the line not win votes, it can actually lose them. It simply increases the perception that Camp Shearer is now detached from reality. A perception continually reinforced by the leader himself.

    Yes, I listened to (didn’t watch) the first part of Question Time. I heard Russel Norman ask a question, get a silly answer from Key, and immediately Norman threw it back at him. To loud laughter, because MPs knew he’d scored a point.

    In other words, Norman was thinking on his feet. That’s part of the cut and thrust of debate, it’s what politicians have to do, and all three main leaders (Turei, Norman and Peters) have shown they can do it.

    Shearer never does. Not in the House, not in the TV studio, not at the photo-op, nowhere in the media.

    Today was no exception.

    • gobsmacked 13.1

      Here’s Scott Yorke’s perspective …

      http://twitter.com/ImperatorFish

      Like Tapu Misa, he is not some devotee of Cult Cunliffe. He was impressed by Shearer’s conference speech.

      But when Labour fail to follow up, fail to show the same focus and energy and basic competence in doing the day-job, as they did in preparing one speech, then people will naturally be frustrated.

      And when the leadership’s response to that frustration is more denial, more delusion, and even more circling of the wagons (“You is Blogger! Boo! Bloggers Are Cunliffe!”), then the cycle continues … and Labour are screwed.

      The way forward is to tell the truth. Not least, to David Shearer himself.

  14. Skinny 14

    Looks like Parker is being lined up to challenge Shearer ‘if the opportunity’ presents it self? & or is manufactured? I agree thought his math didn’t add up. Get it right & keep practicing Parker.

  15. tracey 15

    I wish fisiani and other nats could post as much detail about alleged national policies.

    • Fisiani 15.1

      I would love to but it would be moderated away.
      Come away from the Dark Side. You will in time. As do most grown-ups.

      [lprent; We seldom moderate away your comments unless you hit the bounds of behaviour. Just do it in OpenMike. ]

      • McFlock 15.1.1

        Being exposed as fantasies based on wishful thinking and a loathing of workers is not “being moderated away”, Fisi. It’s called a “reality check”.

        cf:    
        Highways that cost more than they’re worth.
        Cycleways that did not solve our unemployment problem.
        Reporting damage to school buildings that do not exist.
        Leaking the private information of citizens.
        “Resignations” that result in no paycut or demotion to the back benches.
        A “Brighter future” with massive unemployment.
           
        The list goes on… 

      • David H 15.1.2

        Maybe a Guest post Fisi’s fantasies.

        • One Tāne Huna 15.1.2.1

          Yes! Brilliant! A guest post by Fisi! Please please please make this happen someone :)

    • OneTrack 15.2

      Oh so now what Shearer announced is only an “alleged” Labour policy? Probably for the best with all the negative traction it is getting.

  16. quartz 16

    If explaining is losing then Shearer is the biggest winner ever; I don’t think I’ve ever heard him manage to explain anything.

  17. Skinny 17

    What Fish face fails too acknowledge is the housing crisis will affect the children of the 2 bob Tories!  Unlike the well to do’s, the 2bob pretenders won’t have the spare readies to handout willy nilly for their kids to get a foot on the property ladder.

     In summary;

     Nationals inaction on housing, coupled with unnecessarily high unemployment ( everyone knows someone made redundant lately) & not listening over Asset sales etc. All adds doubts that Key & Co actually know what there doing! 

     Kiwi’s as a rule don’t suffer piss & wind merchants too long.  

  18. TEA 18

    Todays question time was a laugh a minute.
    What was in your tea Mike Smith !
    labour was whipped raw, this lot is clueless.

    Nationals housing minister needs to go back to school to redo his maths tests though !

  19. Blue 19

    Proof once more that Shearer’s biggest supporters live on another planet. How can any sane person watch that video and see what is described in this post?

  20. Saarbo 20

    Mike, I suspect you equally haven’t got a very high opinion of David Shearer if that is your idea of an example of him putting Key on the back foot.
     
    But my question is why haven’t Labour got detailed costings on this Housing policy? Labour left the economy in an exceptional state when they handed the reins to National and somehow National have managed to convince New Zealanders that Labour’s weakness is in running the economy.

    Shearer needed to front foot this housing policy with every possible answer ready. He hasn’t, he has done a Phil Goff. Did the financial nous leave when Michael Cullen left? Shearer needs to do some hard yards with the bean counters and make sure he understands and retains every detail. A CEO of any NZ corporate would never get caught out the way Shearer has over this housing policy. Its a good policy, don’t f%$k it up.

    These guys make it hard to feel proud of being a Labour Party Member. 

  21. PlanetOrphan 21

    Good luck convincing the Gnats to pay wages/salaries, Key’s swinging from 0 to 2-3000 homes?
    You’ve got Keys attention, now you need to tell him how to print money ((-:

    • OneTrack 21.1

      Greens are in charge of the money print operation. Have to pay for those houses somehow.

      • PlanetOrphan 21.1.1

        Heard that before, a bit of a hole in the attack if true.

      • Draco T Bastard 21.1.2

        It’s not about paying for the houses but directing the resources that we have into producing them. That’s why the government should be creating the money and the private banks shouldn’t be and why the government never needs to borrow.

        • PlanetOrphan 21.1.2.1

          True as long as it doesn’t affect external economies.

          • Colonial Viper 21.1.2.1.1

            There is massive slack in terms of under utilised resources and surplus labour force in the economy right now. So quite a bit of money could be pushed into the economy before that becomes an issue.

  22. Skinny 22

    Well said Saarbo! I cringed when Shearer got pinned down on the 50 k section’s in Auckland. It just allowed Key to deflect the housing crisis with ease. The devil is in the detail, so if your promoting a game changing policy crunch the bloody numbers & ‘own it.’  

  23. OneTrack 23

    Alright, I still can’t get over the sexist comment regarding Collins. I thought that was just not the done thing.

  24. mac1 24

    One track- ‘pink’ just might be a reference to Key’s referring to the colour as ‘gay’ and have nothing to do with the gender of the wearer.

    Secondly, please explain for me how that comment that Mike Smith made is ‘sexist,’ anyway. And the significance of beginning your comment with “Alright.” With what, or whom, are you agreeing?

  25. Herodotus 25

    “Labour’s housing policy is good: practical, ” I am continually reading such comments and unlike those who are making them with “No” supporting information I have provided figures to support my position. I am yet to read of any figures to support the $300k house and land package. With Annette King’s figures moving accordingly to fit the ever changing position, as basic questions are being put to Labour.
    And the minimal information and artistic impression given not to scale as to a guide as to section sizes based on the 90m2 building and the size of a car depicted in the drive way, giving an indication of the area of front lawn and the view from the lounge for the back yard (30 sec mark on TV 3 news item) does not support a 120m2 section more like 300m2.
    http://www.3news.co.nz/Labour-dreaming-with-housing-plan–property-developer/tabid/370/articleID/278168/Default.aspx
    Keys figures regarding Hobsonville also IMO need a OIA to clarify as they appear well over the top. $80k development contributions seem on the extremely heavy side.
    Where are these supporters with valid supporting financial basis to support the claims being made ????
    I am not against the policy in principle (especially if it adds to HNZ stock) but only in the poor financial justification to oversell as it is being portrayed. And not one post on any site has any financial numbers. Just cheerleaders.

  26. hush minx 26

    Perhaps the deputy leader will fill in for the Labour leader one day this week in the house and then shine by comparison – and maybe he’ll have those numbers handy…oh i hate how cynical i have !

    • gobsmacked 26.1

      Not cynical at all. That is exactly what is happening. See Q 12 in the House today.

      Robertson doesn’t have to do anything except a reasonably competent job, and wait for the inevitable. With each passing month, the caucus and the wider party will become more desperate, as they watch Shearer throwing away the election win. Enter the hero … reluctantly, of course!

      • McFlock 26.1.1

        cynical would be suggesting that he goaded Cunliffe into acting so they neutered each other.
             
        Wouldn’t be the first time leader A and contender B tuckered each other out, making way for contender C.
             
        Hell, 1066AD counts for that, and it was the routine for papal elections until JP2 screwed the system. 

      • David H 26.1.2

        Roberston? The jolly little rotund man always in the background with a grin on his face, and is always ‘washing his hands’ Sorry the “Fat Controller” comes to mind when I see him there.

  27. ianmac 27

    I watched Question time yesterday Mike. I agree with your take. Seems strange to read those who claim to be Leftish being so busy doing National’s job for them, with insinuation and denigration. Weird it seems to me.
    And didn’t Judith look girlish in pink. Suits her.

  28. KhandallaMan 28

    Mike Smith (and ianmac) 

    You would do well not to draw attention to Shearer’s performances if you want the membership to stop wishing Cunliffe into the Leadership role. 

    You have only highlighted  that the Conference performance was a once-off: the result of intenses coaching and rehearsal. 

    This is how it should be done:

     http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/10/25/38028/

    • ianmac 28.1

      It is not so much support for Shearer or not. It is the searching and finding every little bit to support the anti and the negative stuff. Like a nagging wife. Once you start looking you will find them. Yes?

      • Craig Glen Eden 28.1.1

        I would put it another way the people who are helpling the Nats are those who keep making out Shearer is doing the job when he isnt. If Shearer was taking the Labour Party forward and I honestly believed he could defeat Key and the Nats at the next election I would say so but he wont, he cant and its straight out stupid to be making out he is landing hits against Key when he isnt!
        So ianmac and Mike you can continue to say white is black all you like but it isn, Shearers got to go and the sooner the better because if he stays so will National.

        • Red Rosa 28.1.1.1

          Got it in one.

          Shearer is the gift to the Nats that just keeps on giving.

          The whole thing is painful to watch.

          Maybe there will be enough drift to the Greens in 14 for some sort of Left coalition to win.

          And maybe not. Unless those numerous, disillusioned, one-time Labour supporters are galvanized into action, the Nats will cruise in by default.

        • David H 28.1.1.2

          Bingo. Shearer is just painful to watch in the house, the cringeworthy way of blandly asking questions. ( I once had an English Teacher who was like shearer, he could put a class to sleep in 5 minutes) Then he gets abused, and he just carries on blandly asking his questions. And when you have none, to bugger all, inflection in your voice, it just makes you sound BORING.

      • mac1 28.1.2

        “The Boxer” syndrome, ianmac.

        “Still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.

        la de da de da de da de da de da.”

        Complete with hands over ears.

  29. xtasy 29

    Sorry Mike, but that is NOT what I observed!

    If it was so, I could forgive and (hesitantly) start asking myself questions.

    Sadly, Shearer is flogging a “dead horse” now, nothing more and less, and King made a joke of herself too, both yesterday and today.

    They should have thought about all this well before the “Great Speech” of “DA Leader” (to nowhere), but somehow they did not do enough research. Hence now they suddenly pull out the argument, well we will use (cheap) “government land” and the likes, talk about mixed housing and so on.

    I always suspected that mixed and intensive land use for housing was on the agenda, but sorry, that is NOT how it was presented. They talked more about HOUSES than HOMES, which can be different things altogether.

    So no traction today, no traction yesterday, while Winston is digging into Key and so about the South China Airways deal. Also the Greens had a few good questions, and Labour is merely “trying”, like usual.

    Sad, sad, sad, soooo sad all this. I just wonder, but it shows, it is a bit like Hitler in the last days in his Berlin bunker, I suppose. Shearer will “fight to the end”, whether it makes any sense or not, whether it will lose more votes or not, it is now all about Pride and Dignity!

    • David H 29.1

      More a case of how many more votes are going to be lost as a result of this bloody mindedness by Shearer?

      The amount of those on here who are going to vote differently is climbing, and if the general voting public see a quarter of what we see, then Labour will be the poor sister to the Greens.

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    “If what I’m hearing is true, tomorrow Maori Television Service (MTS) will dump its news programme, Te Kaea, and staff will lose their jobs” said MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira “and the Minister of Maori...
    Mana | 07-09
  • Labour recommits to Pike River families
    An incoming Labour-led government will do everything possible to recover the bodies of the Pike River Miners and return them to their families, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “This tragedy and its aftermath has left the families of the 29...
    Labour | 06-09
  • Voting has started and still no tax plan or fiscal budget for voters to see
    "Even though voting for the election has already begun, National still refuses to provide any details of its proposed tax cuts. And Bill English admitted this morning that he won’t provide any specifics until after the election", Labour’s Finance spokesperson...
    Labour | 06-09
  • National’s partners’ tax plans cost at least $42 billion
    If National forms the next government its partners’ tax plans will cost the country at least $42 billion, and maybe as much as $50 billion, wreaking havoc with the books, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “National claims to be...
    Labour | 05-09
  • Labour: Providing more opportunities for young Kiwis
    A Labour Government will ensure every young Kiwi under the age of 20 is given the opportunity to be in work, education or training, and plans to develop a conservation apprenticeship scheme to help do that, Labour’s Youth Affairs spokesperson...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Candles out on teachers’ slice of birthday cake
    Today may be Novopay’s second birthday, but there’s little to celebrate, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Novopay has cost the taxpayer tens of millions of dollars already, and the cost is still climbing....
    Labour | 04-09
  • National’s blatant broadband pork barrelling misses the mark by a country...
    National’s blatant pork-barrelling ICT announcement today should reinforce a growing sceptical electorate’s view that they are all about the gift wrap and not the present, Labour’s ICT spokesperson Clare Curran says. “Instead of addressing the real issues - the woeful...
    Labour | 04-09
  • More evidence of the need to clean up the system
    The latest release of emails and messages between disgraced Minister Judith Collins and blogger Cameron Slater are more evidence of the urgent need to clean up politics, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. "This new evidence confirms a near constant flow...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Labour commits to stable funding for voluntary sector
    A Labour Government will establish long-term funding and streamline contract accountability for community and voluntary groups, says Labour’s spokesperson for the sector Louisa Wall. Announcing Labour’s policy for the community and voluntary sector, she said this would give much greater...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Better trained and skilled workforce under Labour
    Labour is committed to a skilled workforce that benefits businesses as well as their workers, and will increase workplace training to improve productivity and drive innovation, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes the Government should support New Zealanders into...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will make renting a better option
    Labour will provide greater security of tenure for renters, and build more state and social housing, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour believes every kid deserves a decent start in life. That means a warm, dry and secure home....
    Labour | 03-09
  • At least 15 new taxes under National
    John Key is the last person to talk about creating taxes, presiding over a Government that has imposed at least 15 new taxes, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “John Key tried a novel line in the debate last night claiming...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will strengthen New Zealand’s democracy
    A Labour Government will act quickly to protect and enhance New Zealand’s reputation as one of the most open and least corrupt countries in the world, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The health of any democracy is improved by greater...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement says tax cut on GST must be first priority – Minto
    “If Prime Minister John Key has money available for tax cuts then cutting GST must be the first priority”,  said MANA Movement Economic Justice Spokesperson John Minto. GST is a nasty tax on low-income families”, said Minto. “People in the...
    Mana | 02-09
  • The Maori Party’s Mana-Enhancing Relationship with National – Minto
    “First we had Cameron Slater and David Farrar backing Labour’s Kelvin Davis bid to unseat MANA Movement Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Hone Harawira.  Now we have Slater writing a pro-Te Ururoa Flavell article on his website, Whale...
    Mana | 02-09
  • There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Mana | 02-09
  • Local communities critical to Civil Defence
    Labour will focus on empowering New Zealand communities to be resilient in Civil Defence disasters, says Labour’s Civil Defence spokesperson Clare Curran. Announcing Labour’s Civil Defence policy, she says that Labour will work with schools, voluntary agencies and community groups...
    Labour | 02-09
  • Labour looks to long-life passports, gambling harm review
    A return to 10 year passports and a review of gambling laws are highlights of Labour’s Internal Affairs policy released today. “More than 15,000 New Zealanders signed a petition calling on the Government to revert to the 10 year system...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the vast majority...
    Mana | 01-09
  • Rebuilding the New Zealand Defence Force
    A Labour Government will make it a priority to rebuild the capacity of the Defence Force to carry out the tasks expected of it, says Labour’s Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff. Releasing Labour’s Defence Policy today he said the NZDF has...
    Labour | 01-09
  • I can’t tell what is National Party advert and what is the NZ Herald – ...
    I can’t tell what is National Party advert and what is the NZ Herald – but then again, I never could...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • TVNZ election coverage – white people telling other white people why Nati...
    TVNZ election coverage – white people telling other white people why National Party is great...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • REVIEW: Royals of Kihikihi
    What an absolutely stunning show.  I had to ask twice to check I’d heard right that this is the first staged production for Samuel Christopher, who also played a raw, real, but vulnerable, Wolf Royal, home from London for his...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • 800 Cops to detain 15 ‘terrorists’ – why Australia’s hysterical Isl...
    I’m sorry but I can’t take this current Australian terror threat seriously. 800 cops to detain 15 people and arrest one of them? A week after Abbot decides to send in Australian forces to the cluster fuck of Iraq, suddenly...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Unbelievable corruption inside Government to attack Kim Dotcom
    The corruption inside this Government just more and more filthy – we now have an ex-Customs Lawyer quitting  after being told to bury information that could embarrass the Government, specifically to do with Kim Dotcom… Curtis Gregorash said he was told...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Everyone Loves A Win-Win That Keeps G...
      Permit me to quote some figures at you… -68% of New Zealanders think political news on television focuses too much on politicians’ personalities and not enough on real issues. This is the key result of a recent UMR survey commissioned by...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, another week of ...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, another week of being the most in demand broadcaster in the country...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • EXCLUSIVE: Te Tai Tokerau independent poll (44% Hone-27% Kelvin) vs Maori T...
    The Te Tai Tokerau Maori TV poll on Monday this week painted a bleak picture for Internet MANA supporters, and it’s results have been seized upon by Labour, NZ First and even the Maori Party (who seem set once again...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The time for TPPA weasel words is over
    Almost every day of the election campaign there has been a policy announcement that would potentially run foul of what I understand is currently in the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA):  more constraints on foreign investment or investors … regulation of...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • MELTDOWN – Maori Party turns on their own Te Tai Tokerau candidate – ag...
    The tensions are building in Te Tai Tokerau with the Maori Party on the verge of meltdown. Days out from the election, the Maori Party Executive has tried to heavy their own Te Tai Tokerau Electoral Committee and their own candidate, Te Hira Paenga,...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • We Can Change this Government
    We Can Change this Government – Mike Treen at the First Union stop work election meeting...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Election 2014: For and Against
    With the general election tomorrow, we have had a very noisy campaign but little sign that the electorate wishes for a fundamental change of governmental direction. This reflects in part the fact that the economic cycle is close to its decadal...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Eye To Eye Uploaded: Martyn ‘Bomber’ Bradbury
    This interview was filmed a couple of weeks ago between Willie Jackson and myself, I was a tad off with my prediction of NZ First....
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The Donghua Liu Affair – The Players Revealed
      . . – Special investigation by Frank Macskasy & ‘Hercules‘ Speculation that the Beehive office of Immigration Minister, Michael Woodhouse, was behind the release of a letter linking Labour leader, David Cunliffe, with controversial Chinese businessman, Donghua Liu, is...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold NZ d...
    It should read ‘never stop spying’. As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold us down the river to the US by allowing the Southern Cross cable to be tapped… The ability for US intelligence agencies...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The NZ First-Labour Party attack strategy against Internet MANA better work
    The final days of the campaign are ticking down and Labour and NZ First are manoeuvring to kill off the Internet MANA Party by both backing Kelvin Davis for Te Tai Tokerau. It’s a risky gambit that they better pray to Christ...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Bill English’s latest insult to beneficiaries – apparently they are lik...
    National’s hatred towards the poor continues unabated as National desperately try to throw raw meat to their reactionary voter base in the hope to inspire enough hate and loathing to win back their redneck voters from the Conservative Party and from...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Eminem ain’t happy with John Key
    Eminem ain’t happy with John Key...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Key claims he did not inhale
    Key claims he did not inhale...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Final prediction on election result 2014
    What an election campaign. The character assassination of David Cunliffe kicked things off with the Herald on Sunday falsely claiming $100 00 bottles of wine, $15 000 books and $150 000 in donations  from a donor that turned out to be...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Live blog: Bainamarama takes commanding lead in Fiji elections
      Interview with Repúblika editor Ricardo Morris and Pacific Scoop’s Mads Anneberg. PACIFIC SCOOP TEAM By Ricardo Morris, Mads Anneberg, Alistar Kata and Biutoka Kacimaiwai in Suva WHILE the results are provisional at this stage, it is clear today that...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 5AA Australia: NZ Elections Two Days To Go! + Edward Snowden + Julian Assan...
    Recorded live on 18/09/14 – Captured Live on Ustream at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/multimedia-investments-ltd 5AA Australia’s Peter Godfrey and Selwyn Manning deliver their weekly bulletin: Across The Ditch. This week, they discuss the latest news as New Zealanders go to the polls on...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What has Colin Craig done for his Press Secretary to quit 2 days before ele...
    This is VERY strange.  Colin Craig’s Press Secretary Rachel McGregor, has quit 2 days before the election, allegedly telling ZB that Colin Craig was a “very manipulative man”. I’ve met Rachel many times in the past as Colin’s Press Secretary, she is...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” – A brief w...
    “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” said Key in the final leaders debate. Problem of course is that the 250 000 – 285 000 children living in poverty can not afford steak, milk, butter, eggs...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • National’s final bash of beneficiaries before the election
    On cue, whenever National feel threatened, they roll out a little bennie bash just to keep their redneck voter base happy. Nothing like a bit of raw meat policy to keep National voters focused on the evil threat solo parents...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • With All Of This In Mind, I Vote
    This is my last blog before the election and I really just want to speak from the heart. Right now in this country it seems to me that a lot of people consider the “essentials” in life to be simply...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Left has to vote strategically this election
    The dedication, loyalty, and tribalism of party politics means that sometimes the left lets itself down by not voting strategically. We all want our favoured party to get maximum votes, naturally, but the winner-takes-all approach doesn’t always suit multi-party left...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Dear NZ – as you enter the polling booth, stand up for your rights
    The last days before a NZ general election are a busy time as politicians make their pitch and party activists prepare to get out the vote. It is sort of weird watching from the distance of Europe the strangest election...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What is Waihopai, John, if it isn’t a facility for “mass surveillance...
    John Key assured us on RNZ’s Nine to Noon programme yesterday that “In terms of the Fives Eyes data bases… yes New Zealand will contribute some information but not mass wholesale surveillance.” How does this square with the operation of the...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Mass Surveillance and the Banality of E...
    Renowned journalist and intellectual Hannah Arendt coined the phrase “the banality of evil” to describe the normalisation of genocide in Nazi Germany. I thought of her phrase when I was listening to Glenn Greenwald and other international whistle-blowers talking about...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Election. Down. To. The. Wire
    Funny how last week it was John Key winning by 50%, now it’s neck and neck. I have always believed this election would be down to the wire and it is proving so. The flawed landline opinion polls the mainstream...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 3rd Degree uses Whaleoil for story ideas as if Dirty Politics never happene...
    TV3s 3rd Degrees smear job on Kim Dotcom last night doesn’t bear much repeating. It was pretty pathetic journalism from a team who have brought us some great journalism in the past. It is sad to see 3rd Degree stooping...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Live blog: Bainimarama takes early lead in Fiji’s election
    Pacific Scoop’s Alistar Kata reports from yesterday’s voting. By Alistar Kata of Pacific Scoop in Suva Prime Minister Voreqe Bainimarama took an early lead in provisional results in the Fiji general election last night. With provisional results from 170 out...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Has The NSA Constructed The Perfect PPP?
    Former intelligence analyst and whistleblower, Edward Snowden – speaking live to those gathered at the Auckland Town Hall on Monday September 17, 2014. Investigation by Selwyn Manning. THE PRIME MINISTER JOHN KEY’s admission on Wednesday that whistleblower Edward Snowden “may...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • No way – Key admits Snowden is right
    After claiming there was no middle ground. After claiming there was no mass surveillance. After calling Glenn Greenwald a henchman and a loser. After all the mainstream media pundits screamed at Kim’s decision to take his evidence to Parliamentary Privileges...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Bad luck National
    ...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • The incredible changing John Key story on mass spying – why the Moment of...
    While the mainstream media continue to try and make the Moment of Truth about Kim’s last minute decision to prolong his battle against John Key past the election into the Privileges Committee, the reality is that the Moment of Truth...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Themes of the Campaign
    There’s one area of a political campaign that just about everyone, at some point, falls afoul of. The campaign song. I’m not sure quite why it is, but it seems to be almost impossible for political parties to come up...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG – Denis Tegg – The NSA slides that prove mass surveillance
    The evidence presented by Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden on The Intercept of mass surveillance of New Zealanders by the GCSB is undeniable, and can stand on its own. But when you place this fresh evidence in the context of...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Ukraine, United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland
    The Ukrainian civil war discomforts me. It seems to me the most dangerous political crisis since the Cuban missile crisis of 1962. And it’s because of our unwillingness to examine the issues in a holistic way. We innately prefer to...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • John Key’s love affair with a straw man – the relationship intensifies
    John Key’s love affair with the straw man is now a fully-committed relationship. It’s now the first love of his life. Sorry Bronagh. Yesterday I pointed to Key’s constant assurances that there is no mass surveillance of New Zealanders by...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • A brief word on why Wendyl Nissen is a hero
    Wendyl Nissen is a hero. The sleazy black ops attack on her by Slater and Odgers on behalf of Grocery Council chief executive Katherine Rich is sick. All Nissen is doing in her column is point out the filth and...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • She saw John Key on TV and decided to vote!
    . . NZ, Wellington, 15 September – ‘Tina’* is 50, a close friend,  and one of the “Missing Million” from the last election. In fact, ‘Tina’ has never voted in her life.  Not once. In ‘Tina’s’ own words, politics has...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Eminem sues National Party for unlawful use of ‘Lose yourself’ bhahahah...
    …ahahahahahahahaha. Oh Christ this is hilarious… National Party sued over Eminem copyright infringment US rapper Eminem is suing the National Party for allegedly breaching copyright by using his song Lose Yourself in its campaign advertisements. The Detroit-based publishers of Eminem’s...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Are the Greens about to be snookered by a Labour-NZ First Government?
    I wrote last week that it was smart politics that the Greens pointed out they could work with National, the soft blue vote that’s looking for a home in the wake of Dirty Politics isn’t going to Labour, so the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • BLOGWATCH: Fonterra join 2Degrees and boycott Whaleoil
    In the wake of Dirty Politics, advertisers are pulling their advertising out of Whaleoil. PaknSave, Evo Cycles Pukekohe, Localist, 2 Degrees, Fertility Associates, iSentia, NZ Breast Cancer Foundation, Maori TV, Bookme.co.nz, Dobetter.co.nz and the Sound are now joined by Fonterra...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • PM Key accused of allowing secret ‘spook’ cable sensors to spy on citiz...
    Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald (left) and Kim Dotcom at the “moment of truth” political surveillance meeting in Auckland last night. Image: PMW By ANNA MAJAVU of Pacific Media Watch NEW ZEALAND Prime Minister John Key has been accused of...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Fiji pre-election ‘politics’ blackout stirs media protests, frustration
    BLACKOUT DAY – Monday, day one of the “silence window” in Fiji leading up to the close of polling in the general election at 6pm on Wednesday. And this is under the draconian threat of a $10,000 fine or five...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • “Now the work of movements begins”: government corruption, media bias, ...
    I am so tired of the dirty politics of the National government, aren’t you? I am tired of John Key and his pathetic attacks on award-winning journalists who have spent their careers fighting and digging for truth and good. The...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Moment of Truth review, smoking guns and the awful coverage by the NZ msm
      There were queues unlike any the Town Hall has seen, 1000 were turned away once it became full…     …full to the rafters. The energy and atmosphere within the room was extraordinary, and it begun…   …Glenn Greenwald...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Daily Election Update #12: NZ First to hold balance of power
    Winston Peters’ NZ First Party will hold the balance of power after tomorrow’s election, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. Mr Peters is then expected to back a National-led...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Election Day is Time to Refocus on Policies
    Over the course of this election campaign there has been a lot of focus on dirty politics and spying, and not a lot on policy. With election day looming, Gareth Morgan is calling for people to refocus on the issues....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • The Kiwi FM Alternative Election Commentary
    Saturday 20 September from 7pm on 102.2 Auckland, 102.1 Wellington, 102.5 Canterbury, or KiwiFM.co.nz...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Beneficiary Bashing unacceptable
    Kay Brereton of the Beneficiary Advocacy Federation of New Zealand says “ the comment made by Bill English yesterday comparing beneficiaries to crack addicts is shocking and incredibly poorly timed.”...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • UN Experience Beneficial
    Acclaim Otago representatives have just completed their participation at the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disability examination of the New Zealand government in Geneva, Switzerland. "It was an interesting two days which we believe has...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Changing face of NZ should be reflected in newsrooms
    With Fairfax Media’s Journalism Intern search closing on Sunday, Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy is urging aspiring journalists from Maori, Pacific and ethnic communities to apply. The deadline was recently extended to 10pm, Sunday...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • SPCA expresses concern over toxin in waterways
    Ric Odom CEO of Royal NZ SPCA has expressed concern over the toxic poison 1080 entering waterways, but DoC, Council’s and Ministry of Health have colluded to make it legal....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • NZ 2014 Election Index – 13-18 September
    Below is iSentia’s final weekly Election Index, covering the period 13-18 September and showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. The methodology used...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Epsom Candidate (Adam Holland) More Liberal Than ACT
    For the past four years I, like 500,000 other New Zealanders, have been illegally smoking cannabis for medicinal purposes and/or even just for the occasional laugh with friends on the weekend. We don't hurt anybody, we don't cause nuisance, we...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Left Coalition Will Save Dolphins
    A left coalition would safeguard both Māui and Hector’s dolphins, as well as revive our inshore ecosystems. Labour, Internet Mana and the Green Party all have strong policies in place for dolphin protection. The Maori Party, and to a certain...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Waihoroi Shortland: Ngāti Hine is not standing alone
    The Chairman of Te Rūnanga a Iwi o Ngāpuhi, Sonny Tau is blowing smoke worthy of a Dotcom rally with claims that Ngati Hine is standing alone in its opposition to Tūhoronuku says the Chairman of Te Rūnanga o Ngati...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Oceania voices on environment loud and strong
    While money and energy continues to be spent on global talks about climate change, Pacific islanders are scrambling to build sea walls out of sticks, stones, shells and coral, to protect their lands and homes from erosion and rising sea...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Prime Time with Sean Plunket – Tonight
    No MPs tonight --- the campaign will be over at 9 30. Instead we will look back --- and possibly forward on what we have learned and what might happen. Listener Political Columnist Jane Clifton Editor in Chief, NZ Herald,...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Election fails to address youth financial wellbeing
    Young people don’t feel included in New Zealand’s financial success and believe inequality is a problem, according to a new survey conducted by Westpac’s Fin-Ed Centre at Massey University....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Winston’s Waffle doesn’t hide the facts
    The Conservative Party is celebrating the ASA's finding announced today that rejected all but one of the complaints raised against its controversial “Conservatives or Peters” pamphlet. “Despite pages of complaints from Peters legal team the only...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • NZ Independent Coalition looking forward to tomorrow
    “Our team is looking forward to tomorrow. It is a real opportunity to reclaim politics for the people,” said NZ Independent Coalition leader Brendan Horan....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Insights Issue 35/2014 – 19 September 2014
    Insights Issue 35/2014 - 19 September 2014 In This Issue • RMA reform the golden unicorn of policy | Jenesa Jeram...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Special voting arrangements made for NIWA crew
    One of the most unusual polling stations for this year’s general election is in the middle of the ocean miles from land. NIWA’s flagship research vessel Tangaroa, has been doubling as a polling booth for crew and scientists at sea....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Tourism operators urged to vote strategically
    Tourism operators should make sure they know their local candidates’ view on tourism and use their vote to support the country’s second largest export industry, says Chris Roberts, Chief Executive, Tourism Industry Association New Zealand (TIA)....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • WGTN: March for free education
    We are students, university staff, and members of the community. Whichever parties form a government after September 20th, we are demanding an end to corporatisation of education....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Evidence of Corruption a National Scandal
    Internet Party leader Laila Harré will take evidence of corruption to international forums if there is not a full Royal Commission to investigate the growing evidence of the systematic use and abuse of democratic institutions and processes for political...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Govt continues to throw money at charter school experiment
    Official documents reveal the three primary sector charter schools approved last week will cost $2 million to set up as well as divert another $1.5 million of potential taxpayer investment from local state schools next year....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • ACT Final Election Rally
    Elections campaigns are an opportunity for political parties to put candidates and policy to enable voters to choose what sort of New Zealand we want. In this campaign there have been three tests by which you can assess the electoral...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Taxpayers on Hook Again for Solid Energy
    Responding to the Fairfax article that taxpayers are extending another $103 million to keep Solid Energy afloat, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Invermay Petition Tops 10,000 Signatures
    People across New Zealand continue to express their disgust at the downgrading of Invermay, says Dunedin North MP David Clark, as the Save Invermay petition he instigated earlier this year topped the 10,000 signature mark just days before the 2014...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • McVicar vows to continue fight for police
    Garth McVicar stated at a public meeting last week that he would fight to retain a 24/7 Police Station in Napier and no reduction in the number of police staff for the Hawkes Bay region, some said he was simply...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Party Vote Our Weapon in Fight Against Government Corruption
    Internet MANA urges New Zealanders to use their party vote to confront corruption in any new government....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Election day is tomorrow – make sure you’re a part of it!
    Tomorrow, Saturday 20 September, is election day, and New Zealanders’ last chance to have a say on who leads the country for the next three years....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Is the Shape of our Government out of the hands of Voters?
    In the last stuff.co.nz / Ipsos Political Poll before Saturdays election, National is down 5.1% to 47.7% and Labour up 3.7% to 26.15%. These results are remarkably similar to the 2011 election where National received 47.3% of the vote and...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Spirit of Suffrage a Call to Action for All Kiwi Women
    Internet MANA is drawing on the courage and integrity of New Zealand women on Suffrage Day – Friday, September, 19 – to encourage them to pay tribute to the spirit of their foremothers who gained women the vote....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Live Election Night Coverage on TV And Online
    Māori Television’s KOWHIRI 2014 – ELECTION SPECIAL kicks off at 7.00pm this Saturday with a five-hour broadcast focusing on the Māori electorates....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Judge’s Decision Disappoints Fish & Game
    Today’s decision to give a Temuka man 100 hours of community service for selling sports fish to the public has disappointed Fish & Game, which believes the sentence handed down was “too lenient and will not go far enough to...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Cutting-Edge Graphics Fire up TV3’s Election Night Coverage
    TV3’s Election Night coverage, hosted by John Campbell, will be enhanced by cutting-edge graphics that will showcase the night’s results....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Govt rushes to open charter schools in New Year
    The government’s decision to approve four new charter schools last week to open in January next year goes against the Minister of Education’s own advice that the schools ought to have at least a year’s preparation time....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • 7 Days And Jono And Ben at Ten Hijack Election Weekend
    The 7 Days and Jono and Ben at Ten (JABAT) comedians are running their own version of election coverage, with a schedule of entertainment and comedy across TV3, Kiwi FM, the web and social media this Friday and Saturday under...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Fewer Prisoners Equals Less Crime
    In its latest blog, ‘Abolishing Parole and other Crazy Stuff’,’ at http://blog.rethinking.org.nz/2014/09/krill-and-womble-independent-policy.html , Rethinking Crime and Punishment urges government to rethink its approach to releasing prisoners. “The public expectation is that the excellent reductions in the crime...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • McVicar slams his political opponents
    I want a safe and prosperous society and that can only be achieved if we have strong and vi-brant families – McVicar...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Falling economic growth – wage rises overdue
    “The lower GDP growth in the three months to June is further evidence that growth has peaked. New Zealand’s economy is on the way down to mediocre growth rates,” says CTU economist Bill Rosenberg. “Yet wage rises are still weak...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Get Out and Vote campaign a success
    Tens of thousands of workers from all around New Zealand have embraced the Get Out and Vote campaign and have created their own personalised voting plan, the CTU said today. “With three days of voting left in the 2014 General...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Animal Research Failing – So Do More Animal Research?
    Victoria University of Wellington is about to host a lecture on why the success rates of pharmaceutical development is so low and what can be done about it. The New Zealand Anti-Vivisection Society (NZAVS) welcomes discussion on this important...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • ALCP welcomes Prime Minister’s cannabis comments
    Mr Abbott's comments came on the same day as New South Wales and Victoria states announced they would be doing clinical trials of cannabis....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Conservative Party Press Secretary Resignation
    The Conservative Party is given to understand that this morning Press Secretary, Miss Rachel Macgregor resigned althought no formal advice of this has yet been received....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • By ACT’s logic, Epsom should vote for Conservative Candidate
    “Polling released late in the campaign shows that ACT is a busted flush and that by ACT’s own logic, centre-right Epsom voters should vote for the Conservative candidate”, says Labour candidate for Epsom Michael Wood....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • New online medical system
    Immigration New Zealand (INZ) is seeking registrations of interest for a new onshore panel physician network to support an online immigration health processing system....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Students, You Have a Choice, Vote!
    The New Zealand Union of Students’ Associations (NZUSA) is imploring students to ensure they make their voices heard this election, and join the many thousands who have already heeded the call....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Party vote ACT for three years of stability.
    Voters who are concerned that on the latest polls we may be heading for three years of instability have it in their hands to deliver a decisive result....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Women’s Suffrage Movement – Get Out and Vote!
    Tomorrow, Friday 19th September, MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki, Annette Sykes, will cast her vote at 12 noon at the Zen’s Building, Rotorua. This will follow a march through Rotorua that will assemble at 10am at City Focus, Rotorua. The...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • iPredict Daily Update
    David Cunliffe and Labour have made gains over the last 24 hours, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict, but John Key’s National is still strongly expected to lead the next...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Conservative’s Proposal to Abolish Parole Fatally Flawed
    The Conservative Party’s proposal to abolish parole doesn't stack up, however which way you look at it, concludes Kim Workman in Rethinking Crime and Punishment latest blog, ‘Abolishing Parole and Other Crazy Stuff’ at http://blog.rethinking.org.nz/2014/09/krill-and-womble-independent-policy.html...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Special Edition : The letter 18 September 2014
    Dr Jamie Whyte has been giving thoughtful speeches largely unreported. So we thought we would put out an edited version on the speech he gave yesterday. The full speech is on the website....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
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