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Explaining is losing

Written By: - Date published: 4:58 pm, November 27th, 2012 - 73 comments
Categories: david shearer, john key, Judith Collins - Tags:

David Shearer had Key on the back foot today in the House over Labour’s housing policy. It’s a good policy, and Key’s long-winded explanations didn’t answer Shearer’s pointed questions; even Speaker Lockwood Smith sat Key down for going on too long and off the point. Key had to be rescued by Chief Whip Michael Woodhouse with a patsy question, but the leadership crack it was designed to bring out fell flat too.

Labour’s housing policy is good: practical, specific, getting the economy going, meeting real needs that matter to Kiwis. Shearer means it when he talks about “hands-on government” – what a contrast to Key’s  “hands-off can’t remember” approach.

Judith Collins sat beside Key. She looked lovely in pink.

73 comments on “Explaining is losing”

  1. One Tāne Huna 1

    On the back foot?

    Was that how it looked from Planet Smith?

    • infused 1.1

      lol. labour was whipped… what planet are you guys on.

    • To be honest, there were no crocodile grins or shark eyes by any of the national members. John Key was particularly ruffled by the end as well. I don’t care if it’s David C, S, P or anyone, provided they show some teamwork.

      Also, does anyone actually know what Tariana Turia is saying? I think it is English but I am not sure…

    • David H 1.3

      Yep you got to hand it to Key he can take a baseless line of bullshit, and just spin it to fit whatever the situation requires.

      Shearer??

  2. Pascal's bookie 2

    “but the leadership crack it was designed to bring out fell flat too.~

    I thought we weren’t going to be seeing any of them. All put to rest.

  3. Zetetic 3

    I can’t work out why Shearer doesn’t go to one of the many $300k range townhouse developments, rather than touring half mil four bedroom villas. They’re nice and they actually prove his policy is viable – well, that part of it

  4. chris 4

    Oh really? That’s Key being put in his place? Us left wing voters really are fucked..

  5. fisiani 5

    [lprent: I was very tempted to leave this in spam because it should be linked (and I bet it has a place alreday on the net). But I'll leave it here for discussion ]

    Every 11.5 minutes of the working week Shearer has promised what follows below. I have made it simple enough for people to understand. No wonder he could not defend it. Nor could he defend how he can find 100,000 sections each at $50,000 cos it’s indefensible.
    It’s a plot I tell thee. Someone has set him up for failure and ridicule. It’s the only possible explanation.

    1. STAKE LOT

    2. TEMPORARY UTILITIES

    3. CLEAR AND ROUGH GRADE

    4. WELL

    5. EXCAVATE

    6. FOOTINGS

    7. FOUNDATION

    8. WATERPROOF AND FOUNDATION DRAIN

    9. SEWER AND WATER TAPS

    10. BACKFILL

    11. SLAB PLUMBING

    12. SLAB OR BASEMENT FLOOR

    13. FRAMING, WINDOWS, AND EXT DOORS

    14. EXTERIOR SIDING AND TRIM

    15. GARAGE DOOR AND EXTERIOR LOCKS

    16. BACK-OUT FRAMING

    17. FIREPLACE AND CHIMNEY

    18. STAIRS

    19. ROUGH HVAC

    20. ROUGH PLUMBING

    21. ROOFING

    22. ROUGH ELECTRICAL

    23. ELECTRIC & GAS METER SET

    24. GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUTS

    25. EXTERIOR PAINT 26. INSULATION

    27. TEMPORARY HEAT

    28. DRYWALL

    29. CABINETS

    30. INTERIOR DOORS AND TRIM

    31. PAINT AND WALLPAPER

    32. WOOD FLOORS

    33. COUNTER TOPS

    34. VINYL AND CERAMIC TILE

    35. SAND AND FINISH WOOD FLOORS

    36. APPLIANCES & SPECIAL EQUIPM’T

    37. FINISH ELECTRICAL

    38. FINISH PLUMBING

    39. FINISH HVAC & FINAL HEAT

    40. SHOWER DOORS AND MIRRORS

    41. CARPET

    42. HARDWARE AND SCREENS

    43. DRYWALL REPAIRS

    44. CLEAN UP

    45. FINAL PAINT

    46. FINAL WOOD FLOOR FINISH

    47. RETAINING WALLS

    48. WALKS, DRIVES, AND PATIOS

    49. SEPTIC TANK AND DRAIN FIELD

    50. FINISH GRADING & LANDSCAPING

    1. STAKE LOT
    One of the first steps of building a home is locating your new home on its lot. This will usually involve a surveyor who will come out and accurately drive stakes to locate your home on the lot. They will be used by the excavators and foundation subcontractors to guide their work.

    2. TEMPORARY UTILITIES
    You will need to have water, electric power, and toilet facilities available during the construction process.

    3. CLEAR AND ROUGH GRADE
    Clearing is the removal of trees and undergrowth from the actual construction site and yard areas.

    Rough grading is moving the dirt around to establish the approximate drainage patterns, yard areas, drive and walk levels, etc. that you hope to achieve.

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    4. WELL
    If you are going to have a well, you might as well dig it up front so that you will have the water available for construction.

    5. EXCAVATE
    This is where a piece of earth-moving equipment digs the hole for your foundation, and, if you will have one, your basement.

    6. FOOTINGS
    This is the structure where the house interfaces with the earth that supports
    it. All of the weight of the home rests on the footings.

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    7. FOUNDATION
    The foundation is the wall on which the first floor rests. It may be short – if you will have a crawl space, or tall – if you will have a
    basement.

    8. WATERPROOFING AND FOUNDATION
    DRAIN
    A waterproofing material or membrane (or both) is applied to the foundation walls which will be below grade to minimize water accumulating in the basement or in the crawl space. Foundation drains run along the footings and remove water accumulating in that area.

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    9. SEWER AND WATER TAPS
    If you are connecting to municipal water and sewer, this is where the pipes are laid to the house and actually connected (tapped into) the water and sewer mains.

    10. BACKFILL
    Pushing the excavated dirt into the hole next to the foundation wall around the house (inside and out). This is a good time to establish the necessary drainage away from the house at the foundation wall.

    11. SLAB PLUMBING
    Any plumbing that needs to go into the basement floor is installed here.

    12. SLAB OR BASEMENT FLOOR
    The “slab” is the concrete basement floor. It is poured at this point. In some parts of the country, plans may call for a “structural wood floor” (more on this later). Now is when it would be installed.

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    13. FRAMING, WINDOWS, AND EXTERIOR DOORS
    This is one of the most magic steps of building a house because it’s where it really starts to look like a house! The floors, walls, ceiling, and roof are the focus of this construction activity. The framer usually installs the windows and exterior doors.

    14. EXTERIOR SIDING AND TRIM
    Whatever you’re using – brick veneer, siding, stucco, etc.- here is where it gets done.

    15. GARAGE DOOR AND EXTERIOR LOCKS
    Some people wait until the end to get the garage door in. But we think having it in place creates a good place to store materials and equipment during construction. Installing the exterior locks means that the wholehouse is secure.

    16. BACK-OUT FRAMING
    This is a general category that includes partition walls that have not been installed, pillars, soffits for wall cabinets, and drywall nailers.

    17. FIREPLACE AND CHIMNEY
    A prefabricated fireplace should be installed before the roughs (below). A prefab will have a framed chimney. A masonry fireplace and chimney can be installed before the brick veneer (see “Exterior Siding and Trim” above).

    18. STAIRS
    Get these in now so that the subs working inside can get from one floor to the other without depending on ladders.

    19. ROUGH HVAC
    The HVAC (heating, ventilation, air conditioning) sub is the first of the three “mechanical” subs (plumbing, electrical, HVAC) to come to the job. He will install the duct work for your HVAC system and possibly the furnace. He comes first because the stuff he puts into the walls is the biggest and most inflexible.

    20. ROUGH PLUMBING
    Next comes the plumber to install his pipes.

    21. ROOFING
    With plumbing and HVAC vent pipes through the roof, the roofer can install the roofing.

    22. ROUGH ELECTRICAL
    Codes call for the house to be “dried in” before the wiring is installed. With the exterior windows and doors in place and the roof on, it’s time. For roughs, the electrician will put in the boxes (switch, outlet, and lighting) and will pull the wires into them. Cable, telephone, speakerwires, etc. are also installed at this point.

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    23. ELECTRIC & GAS METER SET
    You’ll need these in place to get some heat in the house for the drywall installation.

    24. GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUTS
    It’s good to get the water away from the house as soon as possible.

    25. EXTERIOR PAINT
    Many surfaces on the outside need to be protected from the elements. So you’ll want to paint as soon as is practical.

    26. INSULATION
    Once everything else is in the walls and rough inspections are completed, it’s time to insulated your home.

    27. TEMPORARY HEAT
    With the meters set (above), the HVAC sub can get some temporary heat in the house. This will be critical for getting the drywall joint compound (mud) to dry in a timely fashion. The carpet sub also needs a warm home so that the carpet is installed at a temperature comparable to normal living conditions.

    28. DRYWALL
    Sometimes called “Sheetrock®.” This will be “hung” (nailed or screwed to the wall studs and ceiling joists), taped (at the joints), and “mudded” (joint compound applied) . . . after the in-wall plumbing, HVAC, electricals, and insulation have been inspected!

    29. CABINETS
    Base and wall.

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    30. INTERIOR DOORS AND TRIM
    The trim materials installed here may include the door casing, base mould, window stool and apron, window casing, chair rail, crown mould, built-in cabinets, stair railing parts, and others. This step also includes hanging the doors.

    31. PAINT AND WALLPAPER
    The first coat of paint is usually sprayed. Get it in before the hard wood floors are installed.

    32. HARDWOOD FLOORS
    Now it’s time to install your hardwood floors.

    33. COUNTER TOPS
    Counter tops are next. this may involve a different sub than the one who installed the cabinets.

    34. VINYL AND CERAMIC TILE
    Vinyl floor coverings and ceramic tile are installed. Two different subs. Probably should have made these two different steps, but I was trying to make it come out to an even 50!

    35. SAND AND FINISH WOOD FLOORS
    This is the first of two finishes. The last is done just before you move in.

    36. APPLIANCES AND SPECIAL EQUIPMENT
    This would include all of your major appliances – washer, dryer, range, oven, refrigerator, as well as any other special equipment you have specified.

    37. FINISH ELECTRICAL
    Here is where the electrician comes back to install the switches, outlets, light fixtures, ceiling fans, door bells, etc. He will also hook up the appliances, furnace, air conditioner, doorbell, and so forth.

    38. FINISH PLUMBING
    The plumber will install the sinks, lavatories,
    toilets, and all the faucets.

    39. FINISH HVAC & FINAL HEAT
    Your heating sub will install the registers and get the furnace and air conditioning running properly.

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    40. SHOWER DOORS AND MIRRORS
    Install shower doors. Hang mirrors.

    41. CARPET
    Now it’s starting to feel like home!

    42. HARDWARE AND SCREENS
    Typically, this is door, window, and closet hardware. Window screens.

    43. DRYWALL REPAIRS
    You may need to get the drywall subcontractor back out to patch some dings caused by the other subs’ work. This is normal.

    44. CLEAN UP
    This is the final interior clean up.

    45. FINAL PAINT
    Touching up drywall repairs and so forth.

    46. FINAL WOOD FLOOR FINISH
    This should be your last inside job before moving in.

    47. RETAINING WALLS
    These outside home building jobs can be going on while the work proceeds inside. You should not have these going on while the outside is being painted.

    48. WALKS, DRIVES, AND PATIOS
    You should wait until the drywall has been delivered to the home, because the drywall truck is VERY heavy, and could damage your flat work

    49. SEPTIC TANK AND DRAIN FIELD
    Same as above on the timing with regard to the drywall delivery. The tank holds the waste and allows microbic action on the solids. The drain field is where the effluent leaches into the soil.

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    50. FINISH GRADING AND LANDSCAPING
    The final finished grades are established to ensure proper drainage away from the home, and to prepare the yard for landscaping. Trees, shrubs, grass, etc. are installed.

    • McFlock 5.1

      Not a bad bet, oh great and glorious moderator :)
      The link has photos and everything. And is copyrighted, FYI. 

    • Lanthanide 5.2

      :roll:

      IMO you should’ve just left this in spam, and banned fisi if he tries it again. He’s repeated this same lame comment several times now and it’s clearly deliberate.

    • McFlock 5.3

      On the discussion side, I’m not sure the Labour policy is that Shearer will personally do everything on the list 100,000 times in the ten years to 2025.
              
      It might need improvement, but it’s not as deluded as fizzzz 

    • Draco T Bastard 5.4

      Every 11.5 minutes of the working week Shearer has promised what follows below.

      Yep and it’s been shown to you several times how it could be done and yet you still bring up this stupid BS about having to build an entire house in minutes.

      Really, you’re a fucken idiot.

      • David H 5.4.1

        Maybe we should let them in on the secret of building a lot of houses.

        Fisi

        You build them all at the same time using gangs of workers. NOT one at a time.

    • vto 5.5

      In 1941 …

      we sent 8,000 men off to World War II, which had been raging since the 1930s,
      the NZ government built 4,000 homes,
      our navy was bigger than today,
      and our airforce had stacks and stacks of awesome planes, much more than today,

      all with just 1.6 million people.

      fancy that.

      Things were much better in the old days. Bloody useless younger generation.

    • mike e 5.6

      Fishy looks like your swimming against the tide in the in the septic tank leaching away

    • David H 5.7

      Fisi WHY oh WHY do you persist with this 11.59 minutes.

      I’ll ask you a question How long does it take top make a Car, Just one? Answer A LONG time Ask Mclaren or Aston Martin they only make a few at a time. BY HAND.

      But Toyota in Japan can pump out a car every few minutes. It’s a nifty little invention Invented First by the Springfield Rifle company of America in the Civil War, and again by Henry Ford, it’s called a production line and Fisi it can be upscaled to build many houses. You just need a couple of things.

      1 A government willing to implement this. National=Fail
      2 the Land
      And Land like anything else you can always get a good price if you have the cash. And the best people at raising cash in huge quantities is a government. National would rather give this money to their mates in tax breaks than in doing anything that’s deemed to be good for the community at large. So again National=Fail.

      You may have seen that program on TV where they build a house in a week using an Army of people and suppliers, and as everyone is on the same page. Imagine that going on over a whole new housing community being built say a 500 house project being built BY an army of people. And the best part Everyone also has a job and has money so can afford to buy one of the thousands of houses they have built. It’s a no brainer, A win win. so Fisi just give it up, and admit that as a troll you are a failure, and you really need to find another interest.

      • Grant Hay 5.7.1

        Hey David. Not arguing but thought you might be interested to know that the earliest example of mass production using fully interchangeable parts that I am aware of was an agreement known as the Porter Contract, to supply clock movements and agreed between Eli Terry as the supplier and Edward Porter who commissioned the order for 4,000 30 hour wooden movements, dials, hands, pendulums and weights. The contract was signed in 1806 and the order was supplied on time by 1810. Point being, mass production is something that’s been around for a while…..

  6. Chalupa Batman 6

    Ok its good to be supportive and its great you’re trying to pump your man up and give him confidence but really you think this was Shearer getting on top of Key…

    • Treetop 6.1

      Good on Lockwood Smith for doing his job for a change regarding Key’s rambling. Smith has probably had enough of the B.S.

  7. Neologise 7

    Our great hope timidly asked one prepared question after another prepared question, hardly outstanding, I’ve seen intermediate school kids have better oratory debating skills.

  8. The Stepper 8

    Mike I hate to say it but you’re looking a bit desperate. As per the comments above, if that was Key on the back foot then Shearer will be in serious difficulty if Key decides to take the offensive.

    Presumably the crack (which may or may not have fallen flat) about Judith Collins was the very first in trying to establish a rumour about potential leadership challenges in National? Alternatively it was some kind of insult – I find it difficult in the extreme to believe it was genuinely meant – in which case what on earth did you expect to gain from that?

  9. Sunny 9

    Meanwhile Shearer and Robertson will look splendid in scab at the premiere of the Hobbit tomorrow.

  10. alwyn 10

    It was very lucky for David Parker in the house today that none of the National Ministers had a calculator handy when Parker made one of his wild claims.
    He said that building one house per hour, 24 hours per day, every day of the year came to 613,000 houses in 10 years.
    Well simple arithmetic says that the following calculation gives 87,360 houses in ten years
    24 (hrs/day) * 7 (days/week) * 52 (weeks/year) * 10 (years) = 87,360.
    This is the man who Labour regard as being fit to be the Minister of Finance. Where did they find him?
    The claim was made near the end of question 8 in Parliament today.

    • Fisiani 10.1

      Your maths is correct. Building one an hour 24/7 for 10 years would still be 13,000 short. Parker really stuffed up and Heatley called his bluff..

      The problem is that if we realistically limit it to a 40 hour working week and there are only 48 available working weeks then the inescapable maths means churning out a completed home every 11.52 minutes. Every summer barbeque will have a joke or two about this incompetance.

      • Draco T Bastard 10.1.1

        Actually, the joke would be about your and Nationals incompetence. The people who are fully incapable of understanding logistics.

        • vto 10.1.1.1

          Apparently the egyptians built the pyramids. Do you think they would have been a labour lot or a national lot?

          • Draco T Bastard 10.1.1.1.1

            I suspect that they were more used to dealing with the real economy rather than the delusional one (neo-liberalism) that seems to have been invented for the purpose of justifying capitalism and which National believes in.

            But other than that the rulers of Ancient Egypt would have been National supporters.

        • Treetop 10.1.1.2

          I saw the doco on child poverty on TV 3 last night. The condition of state housing (ventalation/mildew and heating) and how this contributes to child hospital admissions is not seen as an urgent issue for the government. The overcrowding resulted in scabies/school sores and the transmission of preventable disease which affect those under a year old, then those under five the most.

          • xtasy 10.1.1.2.1

            I saw it too, and I made sure I did.

            It was admittedly a bit “politically coloured”, but nevertheless, it made some real solid points and raised very valid arguments.

            The fact is: Both Labour during last governments, and certainly also National now, have done stuff all to address the appalling housing situation at Housing NZ, and also in general.

            It has been left to “the market” for too long.

            What impressed me immensely was that Swedish doctor or so, who had worked in Wellington Hospital (as I believe to remember), who upon being asked said very correctly, that in NZ, when a government changes, it goes up and down like a roller-coaster.

            We have a system, where there is no second house, no extra control to scrutinise the government, except the mostly useless select committees. So once a party dominated government takes over from one that is the opposite, they start turning everything upside down and inside out, to serve their needs and their ideological ideas and plans.

            This is different in Europe, and I have clearly seen it myself, when I returned to there after about 11 years of first living here. They had made changes, in a number of countries, but here, it was a “revolution” by the Chicago Boys like Douglas, Prebble, Richardson, Shipley and the likes.

            It happens again and again, government departments get changed, turned inside out, heads of departments, CEOs, and commissioners and what else, they all get changed to fit the new government’s preferences.

            All this bears immense costs, and who pays the damned costs? The bloody people!

            So when in Sweden there is a change of government, from left to right, or the other way around, it never causes the same upheaval as here. In NZ it is like mafia like hostile parties fighting over ground, and then stamping their ideas onto the system. Both major parties have been guilty of this. This serves very well the monetary and business interests, as they will set their lobbyists loose each time also, to influence the quasi dictatorial governments in NZ. It stinks to heaven, and NZ has third world diseases, unknown in Europe for over 50 years.

            BACKWARD and 3rd World minded, a lot of it is, what goes on here.

            So Shearer must have seen the program too, tried to take advantage of it by criticising Key and his lot, but it clearly BACK-FIRED badly!

  11. redfred 11

    Key looked like and sounded like a right a tosser, and it clearly showed they don’t want to do anything about the housing affordability.

    Poor National, clueless really.

  12. karol 12

    Didn’t Phil Heatley, in not answering Annette King’s question, repeat that line that right-wing bloggers and commenters have been circulating? ….about the number of houses Labour’s plan would require being built very hour. 

  13. gobsmacked 13

    I have genuine respect for Mike Smith and his years of sterling service to Labour, but I fear he has been drinking from the same “half full” glass as Anthony Robins. Unfortunately the glass is empty.

    Here’s how Spin works, gents … Do accentuate the positive, but Don’t insult people’s intelligence.

    If you say “Black is Grey”, some people will believe you. But if you’re going to insist “Black is White” then not only does the line not win votes, it can actually lose them. It simply increases the perception that Camp Shearer is now detached from reality. A perception continually reinforced by the leader himself.

    Yes, I listened to (didn’t watch) the first part of Question Time. I heard Russel Norman ask a question, get a silly answer from Key, and immediately Norman threw it back at him. To loud laughter, because MPs knew he’d scored a point.

    In other words, Norman was thinking on his feet. That’s part of the cut and thrust of debate, it’s what politicians have to do, and all three main leaders (Turei, Norman and Peters) have shown they can do it.

    Shearer never does. Not in the House, not in the TV studio, not at the photo-op, nowhere in the media.

    Today was no exception.

    • gobsmacked 13.1

      Here’s Scott Yorke’s perspective …

      http://twitter.com/ImperatorFish

      Like Tapu Misa, he is not some devotee of Cult Cunliffe. He was impressed by Shearer’s conference speech.

      But when Labour fail to follow up, fail to show the same focus and energy and basic competence in doing the day-job, as they did in preparing one speech, then people will naturally be frustrated.

      And when the leadership’s response to that frustration is more denial, more delusion, and even more circling of the wagons (“You is Blogger! Boo! Bloggers Are Cunliffe!”), then the cycle continues … and Labour are screwed.

      The way forward is to tell the truth. Not least, to David Shearer himself.

  14. Skinny 14

    Looks like Parker is being lined up to challenge Shearer ‘if the opportunity’ presents it self? & or is manufactured? I agree thought his math didn’t add up. Get it right & keep practicing Parker.

  15. tracey 15

    I wish fisiani and other nats could post as much detail about alleged national policies.

    • Fisiani 15.1

      I would love to but it would be moderated away.
      Come away from the Dark Side. You will in time. As do most grown-ups.

      [lprent; We seldom moderate away your comments unless you hit the bounds of behaviour. Just do it in OpenMike. ]

      • McFlock 15.1.1

        Being exposed as fantasies based on wishful thinking and a loathing of workers is not “being moderated away”, Fisi. It’s called a “reality check”.

        cf:    
        Highways that cost more than they’re worth.
        Cycleways that did not solve our unemployment problem.
        Reporting damage to school buildings that do not exist.
        Leaking the private information of citizens.
        “Resignations” that result in no paycut or demotion to the back benches.
        A “Brighter future” with massive unemployment.
           
        The list goes on… 

      • David H 15.1.2

        Maybe a Guest post Fisi’s fantasies.

        • One Tāne Huna 15.1.2.1

          Yes! Brilliant! A guest post by Fisi! Please please please make this happen someone :)

    • OneTrack 15.2

      Oh so now what Shearer announced is only an “alleged” Labour policy? Probably for the best with all the negative traction it is getting.

  16. quartz 16

    If explaining is losing then Shearer is the biggest winner ever; I don’t think I’ve ever heard him manage to explain anything.

  17. Skinny 17

    What Fish face fails too acknowledge is the housing crisis will affect the children of the 2 bob Tories!  Unlike the well to do’s, the 2bob pretenders won’t have the spare readies to handout willy nilly for their kids to get a foot on the property ladder.

     In summary;

     Nationals inaction on housing, coupled with unnecessarily high unemployment ( everyone knows someone made redundant lately) & not listening over Asset sales etc. All adds doubts that Key & Co actually know what there doing! 

     Kiwi’s as a rule don’t suffer piss & wind merchants too long.  

  18. TEA 18

    Todays question time was a laugh a minute.
    What was in your tea Mike Smith !
    labour was whipped raw, this lot is clueless.

    Nationals housing minister needs to go back to school to redo his maths tests though !

  19. Blue 19

    Proof once more that Shearer’s biggest supporters live on another planet. How can any sane person watch that video and see what is described in this post?

  20. Saarbo 20

    Mike, I suspect you equally haven’t got a very high opinion of David Shearer if that is your idea of an example of him putting Key on the back foot.
     
    But my question is why haven’t Labour got detailed costings on this Housing policy? Labour left the economy in an exceptional state when they handed the reins to National and somehow National have managed to convince New Zealanders that Labour’s weakness is in running the economy.

    Shearer needed to front foot this housing policy with every possible answer ready. He hasn’t, he has done a Phil Goff. Did the financial nous leave when Michael Cullen left? Shearer needs to do some hard yards with the bean counters and make sure he understands and retains every detail. A CEO of any NZ corporate would never get caught out the way Shearer has over this housing policy. Its a good policy, don’t f%$k it up.

    These guys make it hard to feel proud of being a Labour Party Member. 

  21. PlanetOrphan 21

    Good luck convincing the Gnats to pay wages/salaries, Key’s swinging from 0 to 2-3000 homes?
    You’ve got Keys attention, now you need to tell him how to print money ((-:

    • OneTrack 21.1

      Greens are in charge of the money print operation. Have to pay for those houses somehow.

      • PlanetOrphan 21.1.1

        Heard that before, a bit of a hole in the attack if true.

      • Draco T Bastard 21.1.2

        It’s not about paying for the houses but directing the resources that we have into producing them. That’s why the government should be creating the money and the private banks shouldn’t be and why the government never needs to borrow.

        • PlanetOrphan 21.1.2.1

          True as long as it doesn’t affect external economies.

          • Colonial Viper 21.1.2.1.1

            There is massive slack in terms of under utilised resources and surplus labour force in the economy right now. So quite a bit of money could be pushed into the economy before that becomes an issue.

  22. Skinny 22

    Well said Saarbo! I cringed when Shearer got pinned down on the 50 k section’s in Auckland. It just allowed Key to deflect the housing crisis with ease. The devil is in the detail, so if your promoting a game changing policy crunch the bloody numbers & ‘own it.’  

  23. OneTrack 23

    Alright, I still can’t get over the sexist comment regarding Collins. I thought that was just not the done thing.

  24. mac1 24

    One track- ‘pink’ just might be a reference to Key’s referring to the colour as ‘gay’ and have nothing to do with the gender of the wearer.

    Secondly, please explain for me how that comment that Mike Smith made is ‘sexist,’ anyway. And the significance of beginning your comment with “Alright.” With what, or whom, are you agreeing?

  25. Herodotus 25

    “Labour’s housing policy is good: practical, ” I am continually reading such comments and unlike those who are making them with “No” supporting information I have provided figures to support my position. I am yet to read of any figures to support the $300k house and land package. With Annette King’s figures moving accordingly to fit the ever changing position, as basic questions are being put to Labour.
    And the minimal information and artistic impression given not to scale as to a guide as to section sizes based on the 90m2 building and the size of a car depicted in the drive way, giving an indication of the area of front lawn and the view from the lounge for the back yard (30 sec mark on TV 3 news item) does not support a 120m2 section more like 300m2.
    http://www.3news.co.nz/Labour-dreaming-with-housing-plan–property-developer/tabid/370/articleID/278168/Default.aspx
    Keys figures regarding Hobsonville also IMO need a OIA to clarify as they appear well over the top. $80k development contributions seem on the extremely heavy side.
    Where are these supporters with valid supporting financial basis to support the claims being made ????
    I am not against the policy in principle (especially if it adds to HNZ stock) but only in the poor financial justification to oversell as it is being portrayed. And not one post on any site has any financial numbers. Just cheerleaders.

  26. hush minx 26

    Perhaps the deputy leader will fill in for the Labour leader one day this week in the house and then shine by comparison – and maybe he’ll have those numbers handy…oh i hate how cynical i have !

    • gobsmacked 26.1

      Not cynical at all. That is exactly what is happening. See Q 12 in the House today.

      Robertson doesn’t have to do anything except a reasonably competent job, and wait for the inevitable. With each passing month, the caucus and the wider party will become more desperate, as they watch Shearer throwing away the election win. Enter the hero … reluctantly, of course!

      • McFlock 26.1.1

        cynical would be suggesting that he goaded Cunliffe into acting so they neutered each other.
             
        Wouldn’t be the first time leader A and contender B tuckered each other out, making way for contender C.
             
        Hell, 1066AD counts for that, and it was the routine for papal elections until JP2 screwed the system. 

      • David H 26.1.2

        Roberston? The jolly little rotund man always in the background with a grin on his face, and is always ‘washing his hands’ Sorry the “Fat Controller” comes to mind when I see him there.

  27. ianmac 27

    I watched Question time yesterday Mike. I agree with your take. Seems strange to read those who claim to be Leftish being so busy doing National’s job for them, with insinuation and denigration. Weird it seems to me.
    And didn’t Judith look girlish in pink. Suits her.

  28. KhandallaMan 28

    Mike Smith (and ianmac) 

    You would do well not to draw attention to Shearer’s performances if you want the membership to stop wishing Cunliffe into the Leadership role. 

    You have only highlighted  that the Conference performance was a once-off: the result of intenses coaching and rehearsal. 

    This is how it should be done:

     http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/10/25/38028/

    • ianmac 28.1

      It is not so much support for Shearer or not. It is the searching and finding every little bit to support the anti and the negative stuff. Like a nagging wife. Once you start looking you will find them. Yes?

      • Craig Glen Eden 28.1.1

        I would put it another way the people who are helpling the Nats are those who keep making out Shearer is doing the job when he isnt. If Shearer was taking the Labour Party forward and I honestly believed he could defeat Key and the Nats at the next election I would say so but he wont, he cant and its straight out stupid to be making out he is landing hits against Key when he isnt!
        So ianmac and Mike you can continue to say white is black all you like but it isn, Shearers got to go and the sooner the better because if he stays so will National.

        • Red Rosa 28.1.1.1

          Got it in one.

          Shearer is the gift to the Nats that just keeps on giving.

          The whole thing is painful to watch.

          Maybe there will be enough drift to the Greens in 14 for some sort of Left coalition to win.

          And maybe not. Unless those numerous, disillusioned, one-time Labour supporters are galvanized into action, the Nats will cruise in by default.

        • David H 28.1.1.2

          Bingo. Shearer is just painful to watch in the house, the cringeworthy way of blandly asking questions. ( I once had an English Teacher who was like shearer, he could put a class to sleep in 5 minutes) Then he gets abused, and he just carries on blandly asking his questions. And when you have none, to bugger all, inflection in your voice, it just makes you sound BORING.

      • mac1 28.1.2

        “The Boxer” syndrome, ianmac.

        “Still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.

        la de da de da de da de da de da.”

        Complete with hands over ears.

  29. xtasy 29

    Sorry Mike, but that is NOT what I observed!

    If it was so, I could forgive and (hesitantly) start asking myself questions.

    Sadly, Shearer is flogging a “dead horse” now, nothing more and less, and King made a joke of herself too, both yesterday and today.

    They should have thought about all this well before the “Great Speech” of “DA Leader” (to nowhere), but somehow they did not do enough research. Hence now they suddenly pull out the argument, well we will use (cheap) “government land” and the likes, talk about mixed housing and so on.

    I always suspected that mixed and intensive land use for housing was on the agenda, but sorry, that is NOT how it was presented. They talked more about HOUSES than HOMES, which can be different things altogether.

    So no traction today, no traction yesterday, while Winston is digging into Key and so about the South China Airways deal. Also the Greens had a few good questions, and Labour is merely “trying”, like usual.

    Sad, sad, sad, soooo sad all this. I just wonder, but it shows, it is a bit like Hitler in the last days in his Berlin bunker, I suppose. Shearer will “fight to the end”, whether it makes any sense or not, whether it will lose more votes or not, it is now all about Pride and Dignity!

    • David H 29.1

      More a case of how many more votes are going to be lost as a result of this bloody mindedness by Shearer?

      The amount of those on here who are going to vote differently is climbing, and if the general voting public see a quarter of what we see, then Labour will be the poor sister to the Greens.

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    The next Labour-led Government will create a 21st century transport system for New Zealand that promotes the most efficient and sustainable combination of transport options, says Labour’s Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour will rebalance the Government's transport spending away from...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Housing under National: the facts
    1.       House prices in Auckland Council valuations indicate Auckland house prices have gone up by one-third over the last three years. (Auckland Council) The average Auckland house price has gone up by nearly $225,000 since 2008, up over $75,000 in...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Labour irons out low income tax issue
    The increasing casualisation of work has led to many New Zealand families being disadvantaged through the tax they pay, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. "Many low paid workers are having to work two or three jobs to make ends meet...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Cornered Government comes out swinging
    The National Government is so desperate to keep its dead-in-the-water expert teachers policy alive, it has refused to rule out forcing schools to participate through legislation, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “John Key today attacked the Educational Institute for...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Pacific people continue to go backwards under National
    A report from Victoria University highlights the fact that Pacific people are continuing to go backwards under a National Government, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “The report shows the largest inequality increases were in smoking, obesity, tertiary...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Wellington transport plan needs to keep moving
    The failure of the Transport Agency to properly look at alternatives to the Basin Reserve flyover is not a good reason for further delays to improving transport in Wellington, Labour MPs Grant Robertson and Annette King say. “The Board of...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Labour’s focus on inequality, kids and better job prospects
    Tackling child poverty and removing barriers to people working part time to enhance their prospects of moving into a fulltime job are highlights of Labour’s Social Development policy. Releasing the policy today, spokesperson Sue Moroney said while part-time work was...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Political staff should give answers under oath
    The Inspector General of Security and Intelligence should use her full statutory powers to question witnesses under oath about the leak of SIS information, says Labour MP Phil Goff. “Leakage of confidential information from the SIS for political purposes is...
    Labour | 21-08
  • High dollar, hands-off Govt sends workers to dole queue
    The loss of up to 100 jobs at Croxley stationery in Auckland is devastating news for their families and the local Avondale community, Labour’s Employment, Skills and Training spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The company’s inability to compete in international markets...
    Labour | 21-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Public servants behaving with more integrity than their masters
    The State Services Commission's new report on the integrity of our state services reflects the yawning gap between the behaviour of public servants and that of their political masters, Labour's State Services spokesperson Maryan Street says. “This report, which surveyed...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Phil Twyford Speech to NZCID
    "Labour's plan to build more and build better: how new approaches to housing, transport and urban development will deliver cities that work" Phil Twyford, Labour Party spokesperson on housing, transport, Auckland issues, and cities.  ...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Labour commits to independent Foreign Affairs and Trade
    “Labour is committed to New Zealand’s Foreign Affairs and Trade policy being independent and proactive, Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson David Shearer says. “We are a small but respected country. Our voice and actions count in international affairs. Labour will take a...
    Labour | 19-08
  • TheDailyBlog September Political Poll Has Been Kicked Off
    The Daily Blog’s August poll has concluded and the September poll has been kicked off, asking readers: What party will you likely vote for at this year’s General Election? You will see this month’s poll in the right-hand sidebar of...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – Jamie Whyte, leave that poor seal alone!
    Worse than showing mere lip service to Rainbow inclusion, ACT leader Jamie Whyte showed stunning arrogance when appeared at a candidates debate on rainbow issues hosted by the Auckland University Students’ Association last Thursday. The stunning hypocrisy was evident as...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Right wing can’t help but use scum
    Some people have been shocked that the traditional right wing party in New Zealand politics is so deeply embedded with scum like the blogger Whale Oil. We need not be so surprised. It takes a certain type to support the...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • EXCLUSIVE: National’s Ohariu candidate admits contact by Simon Lusk
    . . Wellington, NZ, 31  August – At a meet-the-candidates public meeting in the Rongotai Electorate, National’s Ohariu candidate, Brett Hudson, confirmed that he had been approached by “a mate”, who passed on a message from  National Party operative, Simon...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014
    Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Petition for Governor General of New Zealand to Investigate all the allegat...
      Now we see the inquiry will be a whitewash, that is secret, won’t be consulted with the Opposition, will have limited scope and will ignore Nicky Hager’s book, we must demand the Governor General step in and demand an...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Ashburton, 1 September 2014
    I NEVER WENT BACK to Aramoana after the killing. I had been a frequent visitor to the tiny seaside village back in the late 1970s and throughout the 80s. Its tall cliffs and broad beaches providing a colourful backdrop to...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Checkmate in 1 move – how could Slater have known what was in OIA request...
    And now we get down to the final few moves before checkmate. If the following investigation is right, how could Slater and Collins have known what was in the Secret Intelligence Service Official Information Act request that hadn’t been released...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • The Edge Posts Naked Photos Of Jennifer Lawrence Without Consent
    Today the Edge website – owned by Media Works – published fully naked photographs of Jennifer Lawrence without her consent. It is not OK to publish naked media of any woman without her consent, full stop. It is absolutely disgusting...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Bomber, Laila and Maggie – a highlight from Auckland Broadcasting Debate ...
    Bomber, Laila and Maggie – a highlight from Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, how good was I i...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Maggie Barry slags Laila Harre & blogger, audience erupt
    The Coalition for Better Broadcasting held their public meeting in Auckland last night and it became a fiery shouting match when Maggie Barry decided to slag Laila Harre and me off. 250 people packed into the Pioneer Hall off High...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • It has to be a full independent public inquiry and Key MUST front
      You know things are bad when images like this start appearing in the media.  It isn’t a ‘left wing conspiracy’ to point out the over whelming evidence of what is clearly a right wing conspiracy! If it looks like a conspiracy, sounds like a conspiracy...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Political Party social media stats – National playing Dirty Politics on s...
    Interesting data from friend of the blog, Marty Stewart, on social media likes and it shows an interesting question that post Dirty Politics should probably get asked…   …it’s interesting that Key has so many personal followers.  One wonders if...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • The depth of the National rot and the compliance of our news media
    I’m so tired. Aren’t you? I don’t want to read the news anymore. It’s awful and I feel ashamed of it. We live in a country that people all over the world would give an arm, a leg; their life...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Conservative Party candidate links smacking ban with suicide, sexually tran...
    If Chemtrails, faked moon landings and climate change denial weren’t enough, welcome to your new Minister for Spanking,  Edward Saafi... The anti-smacking law is to blame for youth suicide, youth prostitution and even sexually-transmitted infections, a leading Conservative party candidate...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word on the canonisation of Matthew Hooton
    Before we all start the canonisation of Matthew Hooton, let’s consider some home truths here shall we? While the Wellington Ruminator Blog, the blog who was previously mates with Judith Collins, now seems to have a crush on Matthew Hooton… …I...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word on undercover cops in bars
    Dunedin police booze operation labelled ‘creepy’ Undercover police officers drank in Dunedin bars as part of an operation targeting liquor licensing offences. While police said the inaugural operation was a success — with most bars found compliant — the Hospitality...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Judith Collins press conference
    Judith Collins press conference...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Angry Lawyer – Collins, Odgers, Williams and legal ethics
    We deserve better lawyers than Judith Collins Three of the worst offenders exposed in Dirty Politics are lawyers: Judith Collins, Cathy Odgers, and Jordan Williams. What Nicky Hager exposed them doing would be out of line for anyone, but from...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – Necessary Defence
    Increasingly climate change is becoming the main fracture line between political parties. Where political parties stand on climate change defines political parties and movements like no other issue. The Mana Movement like the Maori Party it sprang from, came out...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Why it is all over for John Key
    Image: Melanie D I’ve been confident that National will lose this election and that our focus should be on what a progressive Government needs to establish as its agenda in the first 100 days. Past that point, the establishment pushes back...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word to everyone who voted National in 2011
    I received this interesting email from a National Party supporter today… …let me say this to anyone who voted National last election – you should be ashamed by what has been revealed and what your vote ended up enabling but...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • EXCLUSIVE: Déjà Vu All Over Again: John Ansell confirms his participation...
      THE MAN BEHIND the Iwi-Kiwi billboards that very nearly won the 2005 election for Don Brash and the National Party has confirmed his involvement in businessman John Third’s and former Act MP Owen Jennings’ campaign to drive down the...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Public Broadcasting Auckland debate 6.30pm tonight now with Colin Craig &am...
    The Coalition for Better Broadcasting debate on public broadcasting happens tonight at 6.30pm in Auckland at the Pioneer Women’s Hall, High Street, Auckland City.  In the light of Dirty Politics and the manipulation of the media, public broadcasting is more important for...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Winners & Losers in Collins sacking plus what’s the latest on Slater...
      Make no mistake, there was no way this was a resignation, it’s a face saving way out for Collins, she was sacked.  My understanding is that National internal polls are haemorrhaging and that the powers that be within National...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Third party propaganda attacks incoming Labour-led government
    . . Further to a report by Daily Blogger, Chris Trotter, on receiving information regarding planned attack-billboards, the following billboard is highly visible to traffic on the southbound lane of the Wellington motorway, just prior to the Murphy St turn-off....
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Labour wins the Internet
    I’m sure I’m not the only one who tried to vote online for the leaders debate and couldn’t because the website was down. The next option was the txt vote, 75c a pop of course. So I’m not surprised that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Rotherham and the need to challenge willful bl...
    I haven’t been following the events in Rotterham too closely.  I’ve read about the basic issues and the culture of silence that stopped action been taken even after complaints were made.  That culture of silence is incredibly familiar, and described...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Review: Hairspray
      Oh Hairspray! What fun! Somehow I managed to miss the movie when it came out, I had no idea really what it was about though I felt it had a vague relation to High School Musical. In retrospect, that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Mounting global pressure against Timor-Leste’s ‘death sentence’ media...
    East Timor’s José Belo … courageous fight against ‘unconstitutional’ media law.Image: © Ted McDonnell 2014 CAFÉ PACIFIC and the Pacific Media Centre Online posted challenges to the controversial ‘press law’ nine months ago when it emerged how dangerous this draft...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Spies, Lies and When Campaigns Are Fried
    Like most of the rest of the nation’s political classes, I was eagerly affixed to TV One from 12:30 on Saturday afternoon to witness the downfall of Judith Collins.Whenever we witness the crumbling of a titan of the political landscape...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Whaleoil crushes Crusher
    Judith ends up shooting herself A new email has been released suggesting that Collins was attempting to undermine the head of Serious Fraud Office with the help of far right hate speech merchant Cameron Slater. Unbelievable!   She has been forced...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Rumours Judith Collins gone at lunchtime
    Brook Sabin first of the mark with rumours Judith Collins is about to resign – PM announcing a statement at 12.30pm… …Paddy follows… …Vance confirms..   …if Collins is gone by lunchtime, it will be because the PM understands the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • BREAKING: UPDATE on DIRT ALERT!
    Thanks to the information passed to Chris Trotter by “Idiot/Savant” from No Right Turn it is now possible to identify at least some of the persons involved in this latest example of attack politics. What follows is Chris’s response to Idiot/Savant’s timely assistance: Well done...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Comparing burning puppets, hip hop lyrics and drunk student chants to black...
    Watching the mainstream media try and obscure Cunliffe’s surprise win in the leaders debate  is a reminder the Press Gallery is in depressed shock. The current spin line from the Wellington bubble media in the wake of Dirty Politics is that...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Why has it all gone quiet on Charter Schools?
    They’re one of ACT’s flagship policies and the National Party have been gung ho in supporting them. So how come we’re not hearing Hekia Parata, Jamie Whyte, Catherine Isaac, et al singing from the rafters about what a resounding success charter...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall
    Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • EXCLUSIVE: Dirt Alert! Are the Greens and Labour about to become the target...
    WE’VE SEEN IT ALL BEFORE. In 2005 pamphlets began appearing all over New Zealand attacking Labour and the Greens. For a couple of days both the parties targeted and the news media were flummoxed. Who was behind such an obviously...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: the Press Council’s decision
    . . 1. Prologue . The Donghua Liu Affair hit  the headlines on 18 June, with allegations that David Cunliffe wrote a letter in 2003,  on  behalf of  business migrant, Donghua Liu. Four days later, on Sunday 22 June, the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The difference between Cunliffe & Key in the debate
    It was with much interest that I watched the leaders debate on Thursday night.  I watched with an open mind, always happy to have my opinion changed.  Maybe John Key is all the wonderful things that many say about him,...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Denis Tegg – When Did We Agree To Our Data Being Shared with ...
    New shocking evidence has emerged from Edward Snowden’s trove of documents about a program called ICREACH under which data collected by the GCSB is shared with 23 US spy agencies. Under new sharing agreements which appear to have commenced immediately after...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Why Internet MANA are the best political friends the Greens could ever get
    Metiria at last nights #GreenRoomNZ: standing on the shoulders and camera cases of giants  NZers, regardless of political spectrum or apathy level, have a wonderful beach cricket egalitarianism about us. If we can objectively conclude a winner, then that person...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Sick of the Sleaze? Protest against National’s dirty politics THIS SATURD...
    Sick of the Sleaze? Protest now dammit! Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government’s track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Sir Edmund Thomas – Address at Nicky Hager public meeting
    I regard it as privilege to chair this public meeting. I have long had the greatest admiration for Nicky Hager’s work, and nothing I have read or heard in the media over the past week or so has caused me...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour and New Zealand Superannuation
    The kerfuffle in the wake of Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics has had a detrimental impact on our discussion of economic policies. Signs are that the main beneficiaries of the dirty politics revelations will be Winston Peters and Colin Craig; certainly National suffered...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Mike Hosking and the Leader’s Debat...
    A few weeks ago I blogged that Mike Hosking was a terrible choice as moderator for the TV One Party Leader’s Debate, because he is so embarrassingly biased in favour of John Key. So I watched the show with curiosity,...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Democracy and Cancer: A critical analysis of Dirty Politics
    Twenty years ago, England’s renowned television playwright Denis Potter died of pancreatic cancer.  Readers may recall his two masterpieces ‘Pennies from Heaven’ and ‘The Singing Detective’.  During a final television interview with Melvyn Bragg, Potter declared that he had named...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Cunliffe beats Key in First Leaders debate
    I watched the First Leaders debate at the Green Party #GreenRoomNZ, they were very kind to include me and the atmosphere was great. The debate was a resounding victory to Cunliffe. He won Round 1, Round 2, Round 3 and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • LIVE STREAM: The Green Room Leader’s Debate from 6:30pm
    The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding to the debate live, along with comment from thought leaders and commentators. ‘The Green Room’ 6pm – 8.30pm...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Ngai Te Rangi Change to Tribal Elections
    Ngai Te Rangi has begun a postal vote of beneficiaries to change the way representatives are elected to the two Ngai Te Rangi tribal organisations....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Greens’ commitment to pay equity welcomed by workers
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says the 58,000 workers they represent will benefit from the announcement by the Green Party of a commitment to pay equity and to a living wage for core public servants and contractors....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Real People Powering Real Policy
    New Zealanders from all walks of life have helped the Internet Party create a full platform of strong, progressive and realistic policies that will create a better future for everyone, says leader Laila Harré....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • University of Canterbury to help with forestry safety
    The University of Canterbury is to launch a new research project to make sure New Zealand’s new forestry roads are safe and are established with minimal environmental impact....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Time to get serious about ending homelessness!
    New Zealand needs a comprehensive set of policies that address the housing and support needs of homeless people as well as significantly increasing the supply of affordable, good quality houses and flats....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Hundreds to join domestic, sexual violence march
    Several social service providers from across New Zealand have come together to call for an end to the epidemic level of domestic and sexual violence in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Students helped with debt repayments
    New Zealand students now living in Australia are being reminded not to ignore their student loan debt as Inland Revenue expands its latest tool to help with repayments....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Launch of GenderNeutral.co.nz website
    GenderNeutral.co.nz are excited to announce the launch of their new website, GenderNeutral.co.nz ....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Factory farming debaters to look chicken in the eye
    MPs participating in a panel discussion about factory farming will come face-to-face with a real live hen, rescued from the claws of the intensive farming industry. Hettie the Hen will demonstrate to the MPs what little space is afforded to...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Personal Statement by Matthew Hooton
    Personal Statement by Matthew Hooton 1 September 2014 For Immediate Release “This morning I made comments on Radio New Zealand’s Nine to Noon programme about an attempt by staff in the Prime Minister’s Office to interfere in the appointment...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Worm turns down for John Key
    John Key struggled to coax The Worm above the line in Thursday’s Leaders Debate, according to Roy Morgan’s Reactor, the original Worm. John Key struggled to coax The Worm above the line in Thursday’s Leaders Debate, according to Roy Morgan’s...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Edge Posts Naked Photos Without Consent
    The Edge website, owned by Media Works have published fully naked photographs of Jennifer Lawrence without her consent....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Statement from the Governor-General on Ashburton Shootings
    The Governor-General, Lt Gen The Rt Hon Sir Jerry Mateparae, has expressed his deep shock following the shooting of three people in Ashburton today....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Update on IGIS inquiry into release of NZSIS information
    In recognition of the public interest, the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security, Cheryl Gwyn, took the unusual step of providing an update during the course of an inquiry and confirmed today that she would be summoning a number of individuals...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • An Open Government Plan developed in secrecy
    The State Services Commission sent NZ’s Open Government Action Plan to the international Open Government Partnership (OGP) Secretariat on 31 July. The countries involved in the OGP since its inception - from the UK and US to Indonesia and Brazil...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • KiwiRail; another year older and deeper in debt
    That is a lot of money and there are lessons that need to be learnt before we pour in another $1 billion....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Fonterra China Deal Demands Safe Supply Chain
    The future success of Fonterra’s deal to sell infant formula in China [1] requires all milk it uses be safe and for Fonterra to secure its supply chain from contamination by GE DNA and pesticide residues. There is now significant...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • HRC praises Auckland mum for speaking out
    Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy has praised an Auckland mother of four who went public after humiliating treatment by staff at The Warehouse....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Southern DHB refers disputed issue to Serious Fraud Office
    Following advice from forensic investigation firm Beattie Varley Limited, Southern District Health Board has referred the expenditure at the centre of its long running dispute with South Link Health to the Serious Fraud Office. The parties have been...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Letter 1 September 2014
    Last night’s TVNZ Colmar Brunton poll puts the left and right 60 MPs each. United and the Maori Party say they will go with the side that gets to 61 MPs. ACT just needs just 1.3% or 28 thousand Party...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Shopping Giveaway Harmless Fun For Kids
    Family First NZ is rubbishing claims by critics including Gareth Morgan that the New World ‘Little Shop’ promotion is harmful for kids, and says that kids should be allowed to be kids. “Children love acting like their parents and pretending...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Red Cross launches employment service for former refugees
    New Zealand Red Cross is encouraging employers to give refugees a fresh startwith the launch of Pathways to Employment, a nationwide work assistance service....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • EDS welcomes Labour’s Conservation Policy
    The Environmental Defence Society has welcomed Labour’s Conservation Policy including the key objective of halting the current pattern of indigenous biodiversity decline within ten years....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Poverty is falling and income inequality is not rising
    “A Roy Morgan poll shows that the issue people are most concerned about is income inequality. This just goes to show how the persistent repetition of a lie bewilders the public. Income inequality is not in fact rising. And the...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Rotary NZ responding to Fiji water and sanitation issues
    Clean water and sanitation are vital to health. In Fiji Rotary New Zealand have been targeting 22 communities that are experiencing severe hardship mainly because they don’t have access to clean water for their drinking, cleaning and cooking needs....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Work & Income shooting a Tragedy
    Kay Brereton speaking on behalf of the National Beneficiary Advocacy Consultancy group says; “Two people shot and another wounded, this is a tragedy and our deepest sympathy goes out to the family and whanau of the victims, as well as...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • 1080 Poison Deer Repellent not Effective – Farmers
    Four deer have been found dead within a farmer's bush block, after an aerial 1080 poison drop applied with deer repellent. The drop was part of a 30,000 hectare drop across the Northern Pureora Forest Park....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Employment Charter will strengthen migrants’ rights
    Establishing an Employment Charter for construction companies is a critical step to strengthening the rights of migrant workers that are fast becoming the face of the Christchurch rebuild, according to an alliance of union groups. The charter has...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Global March For Elephants and Rhino
    It’s a trans-national business that funds terrorist organisations, fuels conflict in Africa, and poses environmental, development and security challenges. The illegal wildlife trade is also a lucrative business, generating an estimated USD$20 billion...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • New series of videos aimed at disengaged youth
    From the people who brought you 'NZ Idle' (NZ's favourite web series about an artist on the dole) comes a new series about election time: Choice Lolz....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Picket Of Leaders Christchurch Debate
    KEEP OUR ASSETS PICKET OF LEADERS CHRISTCHURCH DEBATE TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 2nd, 6 p.m. ST MARGARETS COLLEGE, SHREWSBURY STREET, MERIVALE...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Vega Auriga should be detained in NZ until problems fixed
    Maritime Union of New Zealand National Secretary Joe Fleetwood says that the ship Vega Auriga should be detained in a New Zealand port until it is deemed seaworthy and crew issues have been fixed....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Minor Parties Added to Election ‘Bribe-O-Meter’
    The Taxpayers’ Union have added the Green, ACT, United Future and Conservative Parties to the ‘ Bribe-O-Meter ’ hosted at taxpayers.org.nz . Excluding ACT and New Zealand First, the total election ‘bribes’ - that is new spending not already...
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Fiery Broadcasting Debate in Auckland
    Over 250 people turned out for the Auckland Broadcasting and Media Debate in Auckland City last night to hear politicians give their solutions to NZ’s media and broadcasting woes....
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Independent Epsom Candidate: Adam Holland
    Today I am very proud to have been nominated to run as an independent candidate by the people of Epsom in order to work hard for the people of Epsom, Mount Eden, Newmarket and Remuera....
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Voters favour parties with factory farming policies
    A Horizon Research poll shows that 64.7% of adults are more likely to vote for a political party with a policy against factory farming....
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Collins And Dirty Politics Drive The #nzpol Wordcloud
    After Judith Collins' resignation as Minister from Cabinet on Saturday, the data insight organisation Qrious collected all tweets that used the hashtag #nzpol and for approximately the 24 hours since the announcement to produced this wordcloud....
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Bill English: allegations against Judith Collins are serious
    Deputy Prime Minister Bill English told TV1’s Q+A programme that the allegations against Judith Collins are serious and that’s why an inquiry is needed....
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Culture Change Required
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  • Reducing Reoffending Statistic Challenged
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  • University economics team studying workers’ comparing wages
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    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Statement by State Services Commissioner
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  • Christchurch Council Circus … Continued
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  • The Nation Housing Debate
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    Scoop politics | 30-08
  • Time to Shine Light on Shadowy Spies
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  • New Zealand’s biggest problems are Economic Issues
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    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • NZ 2014 Leaders Index – week ending 29 August
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    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Judgment in Paki v Attorney General
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    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Supreme Court Decision on Maori Water Rights
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    Scoop politics | 29-08
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