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	<title>Comments on: Failures of leadership: English, Hide, and Harawira</title>
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		<title>By: Geek</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/failures-of-leadership-english-hide-and-harawira/comment-page-1/#comment-172320</link>
		<dc:creator>Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hide as much as he is a hypocrite and should resign for it was honest about his travel. Not once did he lie. Hone on the other hand lied to his leader by claiming he was sick when he skipped work to go to Paris then blamed Colonization for skipping work and going to Paris. Not to much honesty going on there if you ask me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hide as much as he is a hypocrite and should resign for it was honest about his travel. Not once did he lie. Hone on the other hand lied to his leader by claiming he was sick when he skipped work to go to Paris then blamed Colonization for skipping work and going to Paris. Not to much honesty going on there if you ask me.</p>
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		<title>By: erm</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/failures-of-leadership-english-hide-and-harawira/comment-page-1/#comment-172281</link>
		<dc:creator>erm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;they&#039; are too busy wristing each other off to notice they are humorous..in a &#039;pat pat funny yes you are&#039; way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;they&#8217; are too busy wristing each other off to notice they are humorous..in a &#8216;pat pat funny yes you are&#8217; way.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodel</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/failures-of-leadership-english-hide-and-harawira/comment-page-1/#comment-172263</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like Hone&#039;s rhetoric but much as I hate to admit it he&#039;s been honest and you know what he stands for. The on;y people who are really interested in Hone&#039;s activities are the media who are too lazy to concentrate on the real news and the real issues confronting this country. They like a little circus because then  they don&#039;t have to do any hard work.

Hide and English were never  honest about their devious dealings and JK is as usual the  vacuous simpleton. We all know what they stand for  but they&#039;re not honest about it.

Sharples and Turia, I just don&#039;t know what they stand for- maybe just their platitudes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like Hone&#8217;s rhetoric but much as I hate to admit it he&#8217;s been honest and you know what he stands for. The on;y people who are really interested in Hone&#8217;s activities are the media who are too lazy to concentrate on the real news and the real issues confronting this country. They like a little circus because then  they don&#8217;t have to do any hard work.</p>
<p>Hide and English were never  honest about their devious dealings and JK is as usual the  vacuous simpleton. We all know what they stand for  but they&#8217;re not honest about it.</p>
<p>Sharples and Turia, I just don&#8217;t know what they stand for- maybe just their platitudes?</p>
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		<title>By: Chi</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/failures-of-leadership-english-hide-and-harawira/comment-page-1/#comment-172181</link>
		<dc:creator>Chi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I am confident that a Pakeha in his place would be getting the same media treatment.&quot;

I am confident that you are wrong. A Pakeha in his place would be getting much harsher condemnation from the media. There would be universal calls for the person to resign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am confident that a Pakeha in his place would be getting the same media treatment.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am confident that you are wrong. A Pakeha in his place would be getting much harsher condemnation from the media. There would be universal calls for the person to resign.</p>
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		<title>By: Olwyn</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/failures-of-leadership-english-hide-and-harawira/comment-page-1/#comment-172154</link>
		<dc:creator>Olwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, RedLogix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, RedLogix.</p>
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		<title>By: the sprout</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/failures-of-leadership-english-hide-and-harawira/comment-page-1/#comment-172153</link>
		<dc:creator>the sprout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apparently criticizing the wrongs of &#039;our&#039; side is tantamount to defending the &#039;other&#039;.

a bit like any criticism of the war is supporting the terrists :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apparently criticizing the wrongs of &#8216;our&#8217; side is tantamount to defending the &#8216;other&#8217;.</p>
<p>a bit like any criticism of the war is supporting the terrists <img src='http://thestandard.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: the sprout</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/failures-of-leadership-english-hide-and-harawira/comment-page-1/#comment-172151</link>
		<dc:creator>the sprout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jesus Marty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jesus Marty</p>
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		<title>By: the sprout</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/failures-of-leadership-english-hide-and-harawira/comment-page-1/#comment-172150</link>
		<dc:creator>the sprout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:lol: !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://thestandard.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  !</p>
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		<title>By: Deus ex Machina</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/failures-of-leadership-english-hide-and-harawira/comment-page-1/#comment-172125</link>
		<dc:creator>Deus ex Machina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The distinction is that concept which most parliamentarians display lamentable ignorance of  - Integrity.

Millionaires are entitled to claim Child Benefit.  It&#039;s within the rules.  Whether or not they claim it when they don&#039;t need it and are not the people for which it was intended comes down to a matter of personal integrity.

Bowling underarm is allowed in a cricket match.  It&#039;s within the rules but whether or not you chose to bowl underarm and deny the opposition the opportunity to score a winning run is a matter of sportsmanship and integrity.

The acts of English, Hide and Harawera demonstrate to me that they have no personal integrity, and in my view integrity should be the most important facet of an MP&#039;s character - but hey, that&#039;s an old-fashioned view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The distinction is that concept which most parliamentarians display lamentable ignorance of  &#8211; Integrity.</p>
<p>Millionaires are entitled to claim Child Benefit.  It&#8217;s within the rules.  Whether or not they claim it when they don&#8217;t need it and are not the people for which it was intended comes down to a matter of personal integrity.</p>
<p>Bowling underarm is allowed in a cricket match.  It&#8217;s within the rules but whether or not you chose to bowl underarm and deny the opposition the opportunity to score a winning run is a matter of sportsmanship and integrity.</p>
<p>The acts of English, Hide and Harawera demonstrate to me that they have no personal integrity, and in my view integrity should be the most important facet of an MP&#8217;s character &#8211; but hey, that&#8217;s an old-fashioned view.</p>
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		<title>By: Deus ex Machina</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/failures-of-leadership-english-hide-and-harawira/comment-page-1/#comment-172123</link>
		<dc:creator>Deus ex Machina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The simple reason why the case never made it to Court is that one crucial element necessary to convict was missing; evidence of any harm, disadvantage, loss or damage done to any person.&quot;

Rubbish.  If an act defined as a crime has been committed it is not necessary to show it caused harm.  If it were no drunk driver could be convicted until he&#039;d actually hit someone!

Perhaps the mitigating factor in Clarke&#039;s case was that the &#039;fraud&#039; was carried out with benevolent intent and for no personal gain, but in my view that doesn&#039;t excuse it.  I wish fervently that she was still Prime Minister, but in my view she should have been prosecuted and discharged without conviction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The simple reason why the case never made it to Court is that one crucial element necessary to convict was missing; evidence of any harm, disadvantage, loss or damage done to any person.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rubbish.  If an act defined as a crime has been committed it is not necessary to show it caused harm.  If it were no drunk driver could be convicted until he&#8217;d actually hit someone!</p>
<p>Perhaps the mitigating factor in Clarke&#8217;s case was that the &#8216;fraud&#8217; was carried out with benevolent intent and for no personal gain, but in my view that doesn&#8217;t excuse it.  I wish fervently that she was still Prime Minister, but in my view she should have been prosecuted and discharged without conviction.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty G</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/failures-of-leadership-english-hide-and-harawira/comment-page-1/#comment-172115</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t be disgusting toad.

I&#039;m talking about Ngapuhi and the Maori Party and people like me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t be disgusting toad.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m talking about Ngapuhi and the Maori Party and people like me.</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/failures-of-leadership-english-hide-and-harawira/comment-page-1/#comment-172114</link>
		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...everyone who has an interest in preserving advances in race relations...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Don&#039;t you mean everyone who has an interest in sweeping historic (and recent) injustice against Maori under the carpet Marty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;everyone who has an interest in preserving advances in race relations&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t you mean everyone who has an interest in sweeping historic (and recent) injustice against Maori under the carpet Marty?</p>
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		<title>By: Geek</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/failures-of-leadership-english-hide-and-harawira/comment-page-1/#comment-172112</link>
		<dc:creator>Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny I was under the impression there was more than one Maori minister in the Labour cabinet when they passed the F&amp;S legislation. There were other races as well. The fact that he singles white people out of all this is racist as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny I was under the impression there was more than one Maori minister in the Labour cabinet when they passed the F&amp;S legislation. There were other races as well. The fact that he singles white people out of all this is racist as well.</p>
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		<title>By: gitmo</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/failures-of-leadership-english-hide-and-harawira/comment-page-1/#comment-172104</link>
		<dc:creator>gitmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggest you spend next week wandering the streets hitting yourself with a birch branch while wailing forgive me I&#039;m white, forgive me I&#039;m white.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest you spend next week wandering the streets hitting yourself with a birch branch while wailing forgive me I&#8217;m white, forgive me I&#8217;m white.</p>
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		<title>By: rocky</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/failures-of-leadership-english-hide-and-harawira/comment-page-1/#comment-172098</link>
		<dc:creator>rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, so having Whale Oil agree with my post obviously makes my opinion really really wrong.

Oh and 1+1=5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, so having Whale Oil agree with my post obviously makes my opinion really really wrong.</p>
<p>Oh and 1+1=5.</p>
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