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		<title>By: randal</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fiasco-after-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-165450</link>
		<dc:creator>randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>right on Irish. this is a government of fiascos. after they hired red hooton to deliver a permanent campaign then the whole world became politicised. they dont care if it is a fiasco as long as it is their fiasco. they are yet to reap the whirlwind that they have sewn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>right on Irish. this is a government of fiascos. after they hired red hooton to deliver a permanent campaign then the whole world became politicised. they dont care if it is a fiasco as long as it is their fiasco. they are yet to reap the whirlwind that they have sewn.</p>
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		<title>By: mjanderson</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fiasco-after-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-165381</link>
		<dc:creator>mjanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see a lot more media coverage of the abuse of urgency in the house by the National Government!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see a lot more media coverage of the abuse of urgency in the house by the National Government!</p>
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		<title>By: Ari</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fiasco-after-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-165357</link>
		<dc:creator>Ari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There essentially aren&#039;t any rules governing urgency. You can go into urgency so long as you command a majority of the House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There essentially aren&#8217;t any rules governing urgency. You can go into urgency so long as you command a majority of the House.</p>
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		<title>By: Mac1</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fiasco-after-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-165326</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apart from the tactlessness of Smith&#039;s statement, what strikes me is the way that the right wing mind seems immediately to go finding an edge, a fiddle, a rort. That&#039;s not an accident either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apart from the tactlessness of Smith&#8217;s statement, what strikes me is the way that the right wing mind seems immediately to go finding an edge, a fiddle, a rort. That&#8217;s not an accident either.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Rehab</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fiasco-after-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-165324</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Rehab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that the best you can do? You&#039;re sounding more and more desperate every day mikey. Keep holding on wee fella, the big massa will look afa you fo&#039; sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that the best you can do? You&#8217;re sounding more and more desperate every day mikey. Keep holding on wee fella, the big massa will look afa you fo&#8217; sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Outofbed</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fiasco-after-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-165323</link>
		<dc:creator>Outofbed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its like an episode of &quot;Lost in Space&quot; complete with the evil Dr Smith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its like an episode of &#8220;Lost in Space&#8221; complete with the evil Dr Smith</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fiasco-after-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-165320</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only hope they don&#039;t confuse &#039;accident&#039; with &#039;welfare&#039; as labour did for the best part. The &#039;victims&#039; part is the grey area though as it covers more how people feel..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only hope they don&#8217;t confuse &#8216;accident&#8217; with &#8216;welfare&#8217; as labour did for the best part. The &#8216;victims&#8217; part is the grey area though as it covers more how people feel..</p>
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		<title>By: Outofbed</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fiasco-after-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-165318</link>
		<dc:creator>Outofbed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While suicide is a tragedy, it&#039;s not an accident,&quot; says Nick Smith. &quot;Frankly if my doctor told me that I was terminally ill and I had 30 days to live with the ACC rules the way they are I would be finding myself a train to throw myself under on the 29th day because my family would be treated so much more generously than under the current law,&quot; Smith said on Wednesday.

Nice Guy that Mr Smith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While suicide is a tragedy, it&#8217;s not an accident,&#8221; says Nick Smith. &#8220;Frankly if my doctor told me that I was terminally ill and I had 30 days to live with the ACC rules the way they are I would be finding myself a train to throw myself under on the 29th day because my family would be treated so much more generously than under the current law,&#8221; Smith said on Wednesday.</p>
<p>Nice Guy that Mr Smith</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fiasco-after-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-165316</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is why I rely on sites like this one for proper coverage&quot;

Pop a few more red ones Sav - this hate-fuelled pinko echo chamber is not capable of &#039;proper coverage&#039; - it&#039;s good for a laugh and to find out what the bitter and twisted are scheming but you are taking yourself far, far too seriously..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is why I rely on sites like this one for proper coverage&#8221;</p>
<p>Pop a few more red ones Sav &#8211; this hate-fuelled pinko echo chamber is not capable of &#8216;proper coverage&#8217; &#8211; it&#8217;s good for a laugh and to find out what the bitter and twisted are scheming but you are taking yourself far, far too seriously..</p>
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		<title>By: Draco T Bastard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fiasco-after-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-165301</link>
		<dc:creator>Draco T Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank god somebody is, now how are the Greens going to get that into the MSM so that everyone is aware of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god somebody is, now how are the Greens going to get that into the MSM so that everyone is aware of it?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick the prick &#171; g.blog</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fiasco-after-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-165294</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick the prick &#171; g.blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] vile Bill can eventually get the numbers to be introduced to Parliament (and frogblog and The Standard suggest there is a problem there), then I would hope Attorney-General Chris Finlayson will report, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] vile Bill can eventually get the numbers to be introduced to Parliament (and frogblog and The Standard suggest there is a problem there), then I would hope Attorney-General Chris Finlayson will report, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fiasco-after-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-165289</link>
		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed it has been, Micky.  I&#039;ve just read &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/10/15/gutting-acc-what-a-shambles/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;over at frogblog&lt;/a&gt; that frog (meaning the Greens) is/are planning a detailed series of analyses of each aspect of Smith&#039;s proposed cuts to ACC and their impact on accident victims.

Might be worth watching for and spreading further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed it has been, Micky.  I&#8217;ve just read <a href="http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/10/15/gutting-acc-what-a-shambles/" rel="nofollow">over at frogblog</a> that frog (meaning the Greens) is/are planning a detailed series of analyses of each aspect of Smith&#8217;s proposed cuts to ACC and their impact on accident victims.</p>
<p>Might be worth watching for and spreading further.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarke</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fiasco-after-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-165288</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the saying goes, micky, it&#039;s the best democracy that money can buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the saying goes, micky, it&#8217;s the best democracy that money can buy.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal's bookie</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fiasco-after-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-165287</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal's bookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s definitely Nick Smith&#039;s not very good day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s definitely Nick Smith&#8217;s not very good day.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarke</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fiasco-after-fiasco/comment-page-1/#comment-165286</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My money is on Nick Smith trying to do a deal with Act ... they want greater privatisation of ACC, as does National, and this way Smith gets to blame it on Rodney and crew rather than &#039;fessing up to his own agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My money is on Nick Smith trying to do a deal with Act &#8230; they want greater privatisation of ACC, as does National, and this way Smith gets to blame it on Rodney and crew rather than &#8216;fessing up to his own agenda.</p>
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