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	<title>Comments on: Finlay MacDonald: The Audacity of Hype</title>
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		<title>By: Lew</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/finlay-macdonald-the-audacity-of-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-59197</link>
		<dc:creator>Lew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finlay&#039;s use of the term `National Socialism&#039; here is an ugly and unwarranted cheap shot, facetious or not. 

But yeah, the guy sure can write, and if he can speak half as well as he can write, I&#039;d love to have been there. 

Runs a pretty thoughtful show on Radio Live of a weekend, too. Or used to, at least.

L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finlay&#8217;s use of the term `National Socialism&#8217; here is an ugly and unwarranted cheap shot, facetious or not. </p>
<p>But yeah, the guy sure can write, and if he can speak half as well as he can write, I&#8217;d love to have been there. </p>
<p>Runs a pretty thoughtful show on Radio Live of a weekend, too. Or used to, at least.</p>
<p>L</p>
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		<title>By: Weather Eye Of The North</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/finlay-macdonald-the-audacity-of-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-59186</link>
		<dc:creator>Weather Eye Of The North</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I laughed and laughed.

&quot;MacMansion....&quot; and &quot;aspirations going forward&quot;......

Brilliant......the essence !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I laughed and laughed.</p>
<p>&#8220;MacMansion&#8230;.&#8221; and &#8220;aspirations going forward&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Brilliant&#8230;&#8230;the essence !</p>
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		<title>By: The audacity of hype &#171; the Nicholas O&#8217;Kane blog</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/finlay-macdonald-the-audacity-of-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-29338</link>
		<dc:creator>The audacity of hype &#171; the Nicholas O&#8217;Kane blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hat tip: The Standard. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/finlay-macdonald-the-audacity-of-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-28985</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.transtasman.co.nz - this was in their premium content, which is well worth signing up to if you can get these paid for by your employer/institution...



&quot;A speech by former Listener Editor Finlay McDonald, originally to the Centre for Science Communication, did the rounds early this week. The speech, which appeared on a number of Labour-leaning blogs and other internet sites, laid out why McDonald thinks John Key should not be PM. 

Key never smoked dope, couldn&#039;t recall what he thought about the &#039;81 Tour, and had used the word &quot;groove&#039; were the main complaints. Wrapped up together, the thrust was simply Key is just too much of a nerdy square to be PM. One wonders what McDonald thinks of Helen Clark, using this criteria. &quot;

&lt;strong&gt;[If they can&#039;t even spell MacDonald&#039;s surname right, I guess we can&#039;t expect much better of their analysis. The speech is not about Key being too nerdy, it&#039;s about him being disingenious and a media creation. SP]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.transtasman.co.nz" rel="nofollow">http://www.transtasman.co.nz</a> &#8211; this was in their premium content, which is well worth signing up to if you can get these paid for by your employer/institution&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;A speech by former Listener Editor Finlay McDonald, originally to the Centre for Science Communication, did the rounds early this week. The speech, which appeared on a number of Labour-leaning blogs and other internet sites, laid out why McDonald thinks John Key should not be PM. </p>
<p>Key never smoked dope, couldn&#8217;t recall what he thought about the &#8217;81 Tour, and had used the word &#8220;groove&#8217; were the main complaints. Wrapped up together, the thrust was simply Key is just too much of a nerdy square to be PM. One wonders what McDonald thinks of Helen Clark, using this criteria. &#8221;</p>
<p><strong>[If they can't even spell MacDonald's surname right, I guess we can't expect much better of their analysis. The speech is not about Key being too nerdy, it's about him being disingenious and a media creation. SP]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: r0b</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/finlay-macdonald-the-audacity-of-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-27511</link>
		<dc:creator>r0b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aye Hillary!  Shall we start a campaign to being back Finlay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aye Hillary!  Shall we start a campaign to being back Finlay?</p>
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		<title>By: Hillary</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/finlay-macdonald-the-audacity-of-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-27507</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billy, thank goodness the Listener is now in the safe hands of Murray McCully&#039;s partner and the wife of John Key&#039;s chief political advisor.

I wonder if the National Party is declaring this weeks Listener cover as a campaign expense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billy, thank goodness the Listener is now in the safe hands of Murray McCully&#8217;s partner and the wife of John Key&#8217;s chief political advisor.</p>
<p>I wonder if the National Party is declaring this weeks Listener cover as a campaign expense?</p>
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		<title>By: randal</title>
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		<dc:creator>randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just read the full text and it looks like Ken Key equals Kinkey lite...and I find it hard to believe he never did a line?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just read the full text and it looks like Ken Key equals Kinkey lite&#8230;and I find it hard to believe he never did a line?</p>
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		<title>By: r0b</title>
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		<dc:creator>r0b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 03:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finlay was editor of The Listener for what - 5 years?  I&#039;d say he&#039;s roughly 100x better known in NZ than Farrar (who is pretty much invisible outside of the odd little world of blogs).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finlay was editor of The Listener for what &#8211; 5 years?  I&#8217;d say he&#8217;s roughly 100x better known in NZ than Farrar (who is pretty much invisible outside of the odd little world of blogs).</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 03:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Finlay doesn&#039;t make any secret of his political leanings.&quot;

Like Farrar I suppose.  Doesn&#039;t stop all you lefties insiting that he start every sentence with a disclaimer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Finlay doesn&#8217;t make any secret of his political leanings.&#8221;</p>
<p>Like Farrar I suppose.  Doesn&#8217;t stop all you lefties insiting that he start every sentence with a disclaimer.</p>
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		<title>By: r0b</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/finlay-macdonald-the-audacity-of-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-27387</link>
		<dc:creator>r0b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billy, Finlay doesn&#039;t make any secret of his political leanings.  He&#039;s also a great writer. The Listener hasn&#039;t been the same since he left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billy, Finlay doesn&#8217;t make any secret of his political leanings.  He&#8217;s also a great writer. The Listener hasn&#8217;t been the same since he left.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/finlay-macdonald-the-audacity-of-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-27353</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Key&#039;s reputation and rise to political prominence has been enabled by fairly shameless marketing and spin&quot;

Thank God the Labour Party would never sink so low.  Oh, hang on...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4365415a11.html

Still, at least we&#039;ve got fair and balanced old Finlay McDonald to point these things out to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Key&#8217;s reputation and rise to political prominence has been enabled by fairly shameless marketing and spin&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank God the Labour Party would never sink so low.  Oh, hang on&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/4365415a11.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.stuff.co.nz/4365415a11.html</a></p>
<p>Still, at least we&#8217;ve got fair and balanced old Finlay McDonald to point these things out to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Lampie</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/finlay-macdonald-the-audacity-of-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-27335</link>
		<dc:creator>Lampie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes r0b, that bad. Like little sheep we take note of polls to form an opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes r0b, that bad. Like little sheep we take note of polls to form an opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: r0b</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/finlay-macdonald-the-audacity-of-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-27317</link>
		<dc:creator>r0b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s lots of perceptive, funny, and quotable stuff in that speech!  

One conclusion near the end seemed a bit bleak to me: &quot;But politics has long ceased to be about anything much more than a poll driven popularity contest and right now the audience likes the contestant in blue.&quot;

Is it really that bad?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s lots of perceptive, funny, and quotable stuff in that speech!  </p>
<p>One conclusion near the end seemed a bit bleak to me: &#8220;But politics has long ceased to be about anything much more than a poll driven popularity contest and right now the audience likes the contestant in blue.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is it really that bad?</p>
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		<title>By: the sprout</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/finlay-macdonald-the-audacity-of-hype/comment-page-1/#comment-27315</link>
		<dc:creator>the sprout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Key&#039;s reputation and rise to political prominence has been enabled by fairly shameless marketing and spin&quot;

hardly surprising when you can&#039;t reveal your policies without hemorrhaging votes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Key&#8217;s reputation and rise to political prominence has been enabled by fairly shameless marketing and spin&#8221;</p>
<p>hardly surprising when you can&#8217;t reveal your policies without hemorrhaging votes</p>
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