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	<title>Comments on: For God&#8217;s sake, its the same name</title>
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		<title>By: Kiwipolitico &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bhadge</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/for-gods-sake-its-the-same-name/comment-page-1/#comment-180261</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiwipolitico &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bhadge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Turia and Ken Mair have all claimed victory, so everyone with an actual stake is nominally happy. The Standardistas and the KBR are furious, which is a pretty good sign. It obviates the strongest symbolic position [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Turia and Ken Mair have all claimed victory, so everyone with an actual stake is nominally happy. The Standardistas and the KBR are furious, which is a pretty good sign. It obviates the strongest symbolic position [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Voice of Reason</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/for-gods-sake-its-the-same-name/comment-page-1/#comment-180233</link>
		<dc:creator>The Voice of Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m told the eyeliner is tattooed in, which is creepy in itself. Don&#039;t know about the eyelashes. Can you get extensions for eyelashes? 

As it happened, I was in Whangaz yesterday and most folk seemed to be shrugging their shoulders about the decision. In fact, people seemed miffed that no decision really seemed to have been made, though TVNZ changing the weather forecast and news headlines to the &#039;new&#039; spelling seems to suggest the change is going to come whether the rednecks like it or not.

Be interesting when the highway signposts get changed. It&#039;s only going to happen when they need replacing. It&#039;s not like I&#039;d encourage people to nick the current ones to bring that about earlier than necessary, but if it were to happen, sweet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m told the eyeliner is tattooed in, which is creepy in itself. Don&#8217;t know about the eyelashes. Can you get extensions for eyelashes? </p>
<p>As it happened, I was in Whangaz yesterday and most folk seemed to be shrugging their shoulders about the decision. In fact, people seemed miffed that no decision really seemed to have been made, though TVNZ changing the weather forecast and news headlines to the &#8216;new&#8217; spelling seems to suggest the change is going to come whether the rednecks like it or not.</p>
<p>Be interesting when the highway signposts get changed. It&#8217;s only going to happen when they need replacing. It&#8217;s not like I&#8217;d encourage people to nick the current ones to bring that about earlier than necessary, but if it were to happen, sweet.</p>
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		<title>By: prism</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/for-gods-sake-its-the-same-name/comment-page-1/#comment-180225</link>
		<dc:creator>prism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The above two of my comments - the first I chose to amend so went to edit and did so.  But still the first remains, it wasn&#039;t discarded and replaced with new edited version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above two of my comments &#8211; the first I chose to amend so went to edit and did so.  But still the first remains, it wasn&#8217;t discarded and replaced with new edited version.</p>
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		<title>By: prism</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/for-gods-sake-its-the-same-name/comment-page-1/#comment-180178</link>
		<dc:creator>prism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve wondered about Laws and eyeliner and his eyelashes.  You can&#039;t help the way you look so that&#039;s just mean.  I dislike what he says and thinks - how can Whanganui embrace this guy - or are they so eager for publicity that any is welcome?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve wondered about Laws and eyeliner and his eyelashes.  You can&#8217;t help the way you look so that&#8217;s just mean.  I dislike what he says and thinks &#8211; how can Whanganui embrace this guy &#8211; or are they so eager for publicity that any is welcome?</p>
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		<title>By: prism</title>
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		<dc:creator>prism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve wondered about Laws and eyeliner and his eyelashes.  You can&#039;t help the way you look so that&#039;s just a mean thought on my part.  I dislike what he says and thinks - how can Whanganui embrace this guy - or are they so eager for publicity that any is welcome?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve wondered about Laws and eyeliner and his eyelashes.  You can&#8217;t help the way you look so that&#8217;s just a mean thought on my part.  I dislike what he says and thinks &#8211; how can Whanganui embrace this guy &#8211; or are they so eager for publicity that any is welcome?</p>
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		<title>By: The Voice of Reason</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/for-gods-sake-its-the-same-name/comment-page-1/#comment-180175</link>
		<dc:creator>The Voice of Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not so, Swampy. It is not the hard &#039;f&#039; sound we are more familiar with (whakatane, whanau), but pronounced as if the h came before the w. More like whisper or whisk.

And I wouldn&#039;t rely the linguistic accuracy of batshit mad racist Michael Laws any more than I&#039;d ask his advice on the wisdom of eyeliner for men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not so, Swampy. It is not the hard &#8216;f&#8217; sound we are more familiar with (whakatane, whanau), but pronounced as if the h came before the w. More like whisper or whisk.</p>
<p>And I wouldn&#8217;t rely the linguistic accuracy of batshit mad racist Michael Laws any more than I&#8217;d ask his advice on the wisdom of eyeliner for men.</p>
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		<title>By: Swampy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swampy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate to say it but Laws is correct, the h is silent in the local dialect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to say it but Laws is correct, the h is silent in the local dialect.</p>
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		<title>By: Swampy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swampy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whanganui belongs to all of New Zealand, not Michael Laws. His campaign is obviously for political ends, because he can only get elected in Whanganui and wouldn&#039;t survive five minutes in Parliament as he proved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whanganui belongs to all of New Zealand, not Michael Laws. His campaign is obviously for political ends, because he can only get elected in Whanganui and wouldn&#8217;t survive five minutes in Parliament as he proved.</p>
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		<title>By: Swampy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swampy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least we can turn Laws off with our remote controls and breathe a sigh of relief he only has jurisdiction over Whanganui.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least we can turn Laws off with our remote controls and breathe a sigh of relief he only has jurisdiction over Whanganui.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lhaws may well be correct that it should not be pronounced with an initial &#039;f&#039; sound. It was almost certainly originally pronounced with a &#039;wh&#039; sound as in &#039;when&#039; or &#039;whence&#039;, and wrongly written down by some early Europeans as has been pointed out above. That the pronunciation of many &#039;wh&#039; words in English has changed to &#039;w&#039; (eg wen or wence) is no excuse to further change to &#039;f&#039; (fen or fence?) - that is not Taranaki maori pronunciation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lhaws may well be correct that it should not be pronounced with an initial &#8216;f&#8217; sound. It was almost certainly originally pronounced with a &#8216;wh&#8217; sound as in &#8216;when&#8217; or &#8216;whence&#8217;, and wrongly written down by some early Europeans as has been pointed out above. That the pronunciation of many &#8216;wh&#8217; words in English has changed to &#8216;w&#8217; (eg wen or wence) is no excuse to further change to &#8216;f&#8217; (fen or fence?) &#8211; that is not Taranaki maori pronunciation.</p>
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		<title>By: QoT</title>
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		<dc:creator>QoT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really don&#039;t know how different languages and the sounds they employ work, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really don&#8217;t know how different languages and the sounds they employ work, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Daveosaurus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daveosaurus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 07:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually say &quot;Michael Laws&quot; with an &quot;f&quot;. Also a &quot;u&quot;, a &quot;c&quot;, a &quot;k&quot;, a &quot;w&quot;, an &quot;i&quot; and a &quot;t&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually say &#8220;Michael Laws&#8221; with an &#8220;f&#8221;. Also a &#8220;u&#8221;, a &#8220;c&#8221;, a &#8220;k&#8221;, a &#8220;w&#8221;, an &#8220;i&#8221; and a &#8220;t&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Daveosaurus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daveosaurus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 07:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, a lot of them have been spelling it wrong for the last century and a half; from now until they run out of letterhead and business cards shouldn&#039;t be too much of an issue...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, a lot of them have been spelling it wrong for the last century and a half; from now until they run out of letterhead and business cards shouldn&#8217;t be too much of an issue&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: prism</title>
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		<dc:creator>prism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 05:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Laws on tv!  Strutting like a fine-feathered rooster warning people not to say Wanganui with a f.  How can he maintain his confident superiority based on - what?  Looking at him is a terrible warning against falling for an outspoken personality when voting for an official something.  Ronald Reagan could tell good jokes but being a public figure is no joke, though the public might like to joke about them.  That&#039;s no great consolation during the years they&#039;re in office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Laws on tv!  Strutting like a fine-feathered rooster warning people not to say Wanganui with a f.  How can he maintain his confident superiority based on &#8211; what?  Looking at him is a terrible warning against falling for an outspoken personality when voting for an official something.  Ronald Reagan could tell good jokes but being a public figure is no joke, though the public might like to joke about them.  That&#8217;s no great consolation during the years they&#8217;re in office.</p>
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		<title>By: prism</title>
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		<dc:creator>prism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 05:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rave on, you crazy feeling,
You know its got me reeling,
Rave on, rave on oh oh oh
Hey Randal, this was an old pop song.  Sounds like you might have heard it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rave on, you crazy feeling,<br />
You know its got me reeling,<br />
Rave on, rave on oh oh oh<br />
Hey Randal, this was an old pop song.  Sounds like you might have heard it.</p>
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