Comments on: Foreshore and Seabed debate in context http://thestandard.org.nz/foreshore-and-seabed-debate-in-context/ The New Zealand labour movement used to have its own newspaper. A group of us thought that now might be a good time for it to be digitally reborn: The Standard v2.0 - now in a new format The Standard v3.0 Sun, 27 May 2012 20:55:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: NZ has unresolved race issues! OMG WHO KNEW? « Ideologically Impure http://thestandard.org.nz/foreshore-and-seabed-debate-in-context/comment-page-1/#comment-171179 NZ has unresolved race issues! OMG WHO KNEW? « Ideologically Impure Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:31:57 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=24678#comment-171179 [...] recommendation: rocky’s two excellent posts at The Standard on the wider foreshore/seabed issue, and ta, rocky, for the link to [...] [...] recommendation: rocky’s two excellent posts at The Standard on the wider foreshore/seabed issue, and ta, rocky, for the link to [...]

]]> By: Foreshore and Seabed – where to from here? at The Standard http://thestandard.org.nz/foreshore-and-seabed-debate-in-context/comment-page-1/#comment-170783 Foreshore and Seabed – where to from here? at The Standard Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:48:56 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=24678#comment-170783 [...] should be much much worse. Read the following on the Foreshore and Seabed Act (following on from yesterday’s post), and consider what deserves a worse punishment a few inappropriate words, or the Foreshore and [...] [...] should be much much worse. Read the following on the Foreshore and Seabed Act (following on from yesterday’s post), and consider what deserves a worse punishment a few inappropriate words, or the Foreshore and [...]

]]> By: lprent http://thestandard.org.nz/foreshore-and-seabed-debate-in-context/comment-page-1/#comment-170692 lprent Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:21:29 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=24678#comment-170692 Ummm thats right. I seem to remember that being one of the 'sods favorite phrases. I also remember banning him several times for using it. In fact sodblog (long deceased) had several long winded posts about the standard banning him for its use. Ah those were the days.... I wonder where he is now? Ummm thats right.

I seem to remember that being one of the ‘sods favorite phrases. I also remember banning him several times for using it. In fact sodblog (long deceased) had several long winded posts about the standard banning him for its use.

Ah those were the days…. I wonder where he is now?

]]> By: rocky http://thestandard.org.nz/foreshore-and-seabed-debate-in-context/comment-page-1/#comment-170561 rocky Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:05:41 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=24678#comment-170561 Ah yes it did go over my head. Naturally I didn't exactly want to follow your original link looking at the url. I apologise for banning you from my posts last week, Ah yes it did go over my head. Naturally I didn’t exactly want to follow your original link looking at the url. I apologise for banning you from my posts last week,

]]> By: gitmo http://thestandard.org.nz/foreshore-and-seabed-debate-in-context/comment-page-1/#comment-170497 gitmo Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:34:16 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=24678#comment-170497 Refer here I think the comment went over your head. http://newzblog.wordpress.com/2008/01/21/pig-fucking/ Refer here I think the comment went over your head.

http://newzblog.wordpress.com/2008/01/21/pig-fucking/

]]> By: rocky http://thestandard.org.nz/foreshore-and-seabed-debate-in-context/comment-page-1/#comment-170471 rocky Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:10:05 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=24678#comment-170471 Depends on the context - it's very subjective. You're probably fine if you steer clear of comments along the lines of the one you made last week about beastiality. Depends on the context – it’s very subjective. You’re probably fine if you steer clear of comments along the lines of the one you made last week about beastiality.

]]> By: Gitmo http://thestandard.org.nz/foreshore-and-seabed-debate-in-context/comment-page-1/#comment-170470 Gitmo Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:07:54 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=24678#comment-170470 Can we still belittle gingas and women with moustaches or is that a banable offence as well ? Can we still belittle gingas and women with moustaches or is that a banable offence as well ?

]]> By: rocky http://thestandard.org.nz/foreshore-and-seabed-debate-in-context/comment-page-1/#comment-170462 rocky Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:47:45 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=24678#comment-170462 Yes, anyone would be banned for writing personalised and nasty attacks. Hone's comments were in the context of the political system, not against individuals. Yes, anyone would be banned for writing personalised and nasty attacks. Hone’s comments were in the context of the political system, not against individuals.

]]> By: JD http://thestandard.org.nz/foreshore-and-seabed-debate-in-context/comment-page-1/#comment-170458 JD Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:26:04 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=24678#comment-170458 Harsh. If Hone posted here and called you white mofos would he get banned too? Harsh.

If Hone posted here and called you white mofos would he get banned too?

]]> By: vto http://thestandard.org.nz/foreshore-and-seabed-debate-in-context/comment-page-1/#comment-170436 vto Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:36:12 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=24678#comment-170436 <strong>[lprent: deleted - banned]</strong> [lprent: deleted - banned]

]]> By: vto http://thestandard.org.nz/foreshore-and-seabed-debate-in-context/comment-page-1/#comment-170435 vto Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:25:01 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=24678#comment-170435 You sure you not the famous rocky balboa? Cause you got a lotta balls but not much brains. <strong>[rocky: now you're banned from commenting on my posts. Further comments by you will be deleted.]</strong> <strong>[lprent: and a site ban for a week. Had a read of the thread and that statement was unwarranted. I get the impression that you need to learn a bit more to argue with rocky. It is difficult - I know. ]</strong> You sure you not the famous rocky balboa? Cause you got a lotta balls but not much brains.

[rocky: now you're banned from commenting on my posts. Further comments by you will be deleted.]

[lprent: and a site ban for a week. Had a read of the thread and that statement was unwarranted. I get the impression that you need to learn a bit more to argue with rocky. It is difficult - I know. ]

]]> By: rocky http://thestandard.org.nz/foreshore-and-seabed-debate-in-context/comment-page-1/#comment-170433 rocky Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:22:45 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=24678#comment-170433 He didn't degrade an entire race - he degraded the political system of a race. In any case I'm happy to degrade the entire culture of whites, and I am white! <strong>[lprent: degrade - you mean denigrate ? Have you been picking up the wingnut habits? ]</strong> <strong>[rocky: I was replying to vto and used his word.]</strong> He didn’t degrade an entire race – he degraded the political system of a race. In any case I’m happy to degrade the entire culture of whites, and I am white!

[lprent: degrade - you mean denigrate ? Have you been picking up the wingnut habits? ]

[rocky: I was replying to vto and used his word.]

]]> By: vto http://thestandard.org.nz/foreshore-and-seabed-debate-in-context/comment-page-1/#comment-170430 vto Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:10:34 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=24678#comment-170430 I'll go along with that. Comments which stereotypically degrade an entire race or its culture are sweet as, just dont make it personal. Fucking idiot. <strong>[rocky: you're getting close to the line with that personalised comment. Try to frame your arguments without abusing me or I'll delete it next time.]</strong> I’ll go along with that. Comments which stereotypically degrade an entire race or its culture are sweet as, just dont make it personal.

Fucking idiot.

[rocky: you're getting close to the line with that personalised comment. Try to frame your arguments without abusing me or I'll delete it next time.]

]]> By: rocky http://thestandard.org.nz/foreshore-and-seabed-debate-in-context/comment-page-1/#comment-170428 rocky Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:03:34 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=24678#comment-170428 I didn't think Hone's comments were racist. He referred essentially to the system of white people, not whites as individuals. If comments stereotype individuals from a particular race I will condemn the comments as racist, whatever race they are directed at. I didn't feel threatened personally as a white person by Hone's comments as I didn't feel they referred to me or generally other individuals. I didn’t think Hone’s comments were racist. He referred essentially to the system of white people, not whites as individuals. If comments stereotype individuals from a particular race I will condemn the comments as racist, whatever race they are directed at. I didn’t feel threatened personally as a white person by Hone’s comments as I didn’t feel they referred to me or generally other individuals.

]]> By: rocky http://thestandard.org.nz/foreshore-and-seabed-debate-in-context/comment-page-1/#comment-170427 rocky Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:55:19 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=24678#comment-170427 You're wrong - but I cover that in my post tomorrow. You’re wrong – but I cover that in my post tomorrow.

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