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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fun-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-181261</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but any temporary reduction in benefits has been more than made up for by WFF beneficiaries</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but any temporary reduction in benefits has been more than made up for by WFF beneficiaries</p>
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		<title>By: The all powerful DPF &#124; Kiwiblog</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fun-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-181228</link>
		<dc:creator>The all powerful DPF &#124; Kiwiblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blogs at The Standard: David Farrar is largely to blame for the Nats running Melissa Lee in Mt Albert. According to a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blogs at The Standard: David Farrar is largely to blame for the Nats running Melissa Lee in Mt Albert. According to a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Herodotus</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fun-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-181200</link>
		<dc:creator>Herodotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Irishbill, I take it from your name that you will be supporting the dram from over on the other side of the Irish sea from Islay or one of its neighbours?
Remember to drink with responsibility. And a lesson to the young out there. Quality is far superior than quantity, perhaps that will be the solution to our drinking culture to drink less but better?
Have a Merry Christmas out there to all from both the left &amp; right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Irishbill, I take it from your name that you will be supporting the dram from over on the other side of the Irish sea from Islay or one of its neighbours?<br />
Remember to drink with responsibility. And a lesson to the young out there. Quality is far superior than quantity, perhaps that will be the solution to our drinking culture to drink less but better?<br />
Have a Merry Christmas out there to all from both the left &amp; right.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal's bookie</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fun-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-181188</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal's bookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What should have they done?

Brashy wanted to inflate the bubble harder, and we would have enterred the recession with the govt accounts in much worse shape and aggregate demand lower due to the non existence of wff etc.

we dodged a bullet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What should have they done?</p>
<p>Brashy wanted to inflate the bubble harder, and we would have enterred the recession with the govt accounts in much worse shape and aggregate demand lower due to the non existence of wff etc.</p>
<p>we dodged a bullet</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fun-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-181186</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no that was due unprecedented growth  zet - its a shame NZ (labour) did not make the most of that period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no that was due unprecedented growth  zet &#8211; its a shame NZ (labour) did not make the most of that period.</p>
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		<title>By: Zetetic</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fun-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-181177</link>
		<dc:creator>Zetetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. That&#039;s why benefit numbers fell and fell under Labour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. That&#8217;s why benefit numbers fell and fell under Labour.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Phil Goff is planning to make the key theme of his first 2010 speech &quot;personal responsibility&#039;. &quot;

This could not possibly be true as it runs against everything the current labour stand for. Labour have hedged future election chances on getting punters &#039;hooked&#039; on state welfare and hand-outs, it would be suicide to change tack now..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Phil Goff is planning to make the key theme of his first 2010 speech &#8220;personal responsibility&#8217;. &#8221;</p>
<p>This could not possibly be true as it runs against everything the current labour stand for. Labour have hedged future election chances on getting punters &#8216;hooked&#8217; on state welfare and hand-outs, it would be suicide to change tack now..</p>
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		<title>By: BC</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fun-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-181174</link>
		<dc:creator>BC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Maori Party would be doing themselves no favours by ousting Hone. They have already damaged themselves enough in the eyes of Maori this will be the final nail in the coffin. Good riddance to bad rubbish (Maori Party not Hone). 

The Melissa Lee fiasco typifies Farrars lack of depth and analysis. I wonder what he would give to be Matthew Hooton. 

&quot;personal responsibility&quot; sounds alot like &quot;take responsibility for your own situation and get off the dole&quot;.  

Bennett. Enough said. 

Not sure how much you can read into these claims but hell. 

Merry Christmas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Maori Party would be doing themselves no favours by ousting Hone. They have already damaged themselves enough in the eyes of Maori this will be the final nail in the coffin. Good riddance to bad rubbish (Maori Party not Hone). </p>
<p>The Melissa Lee fiasco typifies Farrars lack of depth and analysis. I wonder what he would give to be Matthew Hooton. </p>
<p>&#8220;personal responsibility&#8221; sounds alot like &#8220;take responsibility for your own situation and get off the dole&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Bennett. Enough said. </p>
<p>Not sure how much you can read into these claims but hell. </p>
<p>Merry Christmas</p>
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		<title>By: IrishBill</title>
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		<dc:creator>IrishBill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I didn&#039;t write what I meant to write. Fixed now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I didn&#8217;t write what I meant to write. Fixed now.</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
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		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IB,

Are you sure you didn&#039;t have one too many &quot;Double Browns&quot; with the proletariat, this sounds like envy that certain people haven&#039;t been invited to the &#039;must be seen at&#039; beltway soirÃ©e&#039;s.

Have a very merry Christmas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IB,</p>
<p>Are you sure you didn&#8217;t have one too many &#8220;Double Browns&#8221; with the proletariat, this sounds like envy that certain people haven&#8217;t been invited to the &#8216;must be seen at&#8217; beltway soirÃ©e&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Have a very merry Christmas.</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is not the NZ version of &#039;Karl Rove&#039; he thinks he is (he is closer to W&#039;s nickname for Rove).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is not the NZ version of &#8216;Karl Rove&#8217; he thinks he is (he is closer to W&#8217;s nickname for Rove).</p>
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		<title>By: Zetetic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zetetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I heard that but I first heard different on Goff&#039;s speech next year. I hear its going to be good solid left stuff targeted at union workers. Let&#039;s bloody hope so. Otherwise it&#039;ll be a leadership battle. Got bigger things to fight than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I heard that but I first heard different on Goff&#8217;s speech next year. I hear its going to be good solid left stuff targeted at union workers. Let&#8217;s bloody hope so. Otherwise it&#8217;ll be a leadership battle. Got bigger things to fight than that.</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fun-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-181157</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;David Farrar is largely to blame for the Nats running Melissa Lee in Mt Albert. According to a friend of a friend David decided the demographics meant she could win and convinced the caucus his crazy idea would fly.&lt;/em&gt;

Indeed..

That is kind of funny if true. There are only a couple of hundred Koreans in Mt Albert. The ethnic rivalries mean that she would have gotten most of her votes amongst Pakeha voters. The Indians are the single biggest block, followed by the Chinese, and various Polynesians.

Surely even the Nats aren&#039;t that stupid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>David Farrar is largely to blame for the Nats running Melissa Lee in Mt Albert. According to a friend of a friend David decided the demographics meant she could win and convinced the caucus his crazy idea would fly.</em></p>
<p>Indeed..</p>
<p>That is kind of funny if true. There are only a couple of hundred Koreans in Mt Albert. The ethnic rivalries mean that she would have gotten most of her votes amongst Pakeha voters. The Indians are the single biggest block, followed by the Chinese, and various Polynesians.</p>
<p>Surely even the Nats aren&#8217;t that stupid</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
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		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate to agree with Scribe - but he is right.

Also Hone would probably win if there was one. It is Northern Maori</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to agree with Scribe &#8211; but he is right.</p>
<p>Also Hone would probably win if there was one. It is Northern Maori</p>
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		<title>By: Scribe</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/fun-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-181154</link>
		<dc:creator>Scribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IB,

Re: Harawira getting the boot from the Maori Party and a possible by-election, there wouldn&#039;t need to be one because he â€” unlike most of the Labour and all the Green MPs â€” won his seat fair and square. He&#039;d be the Independent MP for Te Tai Tokerau.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IB,</p>
<p>Re: Harawira getting the boot from the Maori Party and a possible by-election, there wouldn&#8217;t need to be one because he â€” unlike most of the Labour and all the Green MPs â€” won his seat fair and square. He&#8217;d be the Independent MP for Te Tai Tokerau.</p>
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