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GCSB Bill scaring off investors

Written By: - Date published: 7:22 am, July 4th, 2013 - 102 comments
Categories: business, International, internet, national, Spying, telecommunications - Tags: , ,

One of National’s favourite lines of attack on any significant lefty policy is that it will “scare off investors”. Capital flight! End of the world! And so on and so on. So how about this then?

Google warns of backlash to spy bill

Google has warned that new spy laws introduced by the Government could result in communications companies quitting New Zealand or scaling back their operations.

The company has joined a list of critics, from Telecom and Kim Dotcom’s Mega to the Law Society, in raising concerns about the Telecommunications Interception Capability and Security Bill, which is in front of Parliament’s law and order select committee. …

In a written submission, Google, the United States internet giant, said the “significant additional costs, time and challenges” imposed by the proposed law change could discourage local and international communications firms from making new services available in New Zealand and could lead to some existing providers quitting the country or scaling back their offerings.

Google recognised “interception tools are necessary for the effective maintenance of law”. But the tools given to security agencies should be “proportional” and a lack of transparency in some processes set out in the bill “would likely raise public fears of unjustified intrusion into their privacy”. …

Imagine the impact on the New Zealand economy if Google and telecommunications companies decide that the tiny New Zealand market simply isn’t worth the effort.

Somebody needs to ask Key what his government’s response to this threat is. He needs to have an answer, it is completely irresponsible to proceed without one.

102 comments on “GCSB Bill scaring off investors”

  1. Descendant Of Sssmith 1

    It’s quite simple to resolve isn’t.

    No data is to be collected on any NZ citizen except upon the issue of a legitimate warrant from a judge.

    The GCSB cannot collect any data on NZ citizens within NZ.

    The police must use their own resources to collect data on NZ citizens.

    No foreign agency, whether private or government is permitted to collect data on NZ citizens without a New Zealand issued warrant.

    No data collected outside a warrant can be permissible in a court of law.

    • Watching 1.1

      DOS, I agree with your resolution but on your point 4:

      “No foreign agency, whether private or government is permitted to collect data on NZ citizens without a New Zealand issued warrant”

      If a NZ citizen choose to travel overseas, enter personal data into global apps like Facebook, joins & communicates with overseas organisations like anything from a medical to a lobby group, use web based emails account like hotmail, access NZ web sites that are hosted overseas (which I think The Standard could be), uses communications cell or skype networks etc I don’t thinks a foreign agency needs to ask or even can be stopped collecting data especially if the data is held in their country & operating under their laws.

      Also there nothing to stop a foreign agency accessing low level free information like the White Pages data for cross referencing.

      As a matter of interest where is the white pages servers?

      • Descendant Of Sssmith 1.1.1

        Can’t see any reason why under international agreements the collection of individual information on global systems can’t take into account individual countries privacy requirements.

        It’s only programming.

        • Watching 1.1.1.1

          If China or US or X says no – what next.

          Its not a programming issue (which as you state is a straight forward solution), but rather accepting those countries are not going to change their laws regarding foreigners.

          The point I was trying to make that this data is not NZ base data but data that is held in the US that allows them (under their laws to track foreigners).

          To them a NZ’er is just another foreigner. Just ask anyone on this blog who has just transited through a US airport

          • Colonial Viper 1.1.1.1.1

            NZ is a “second party” intelligence partner of the US. That gives us, in theory, significant benefits as an ally of the USA.

            • Watching 1.1.1.1.1.1

              CV what does “NZ is a “second party” intelligence partner of the US” mean?

              • Colonial Viper

                Equal in status alongside Canada, Australia, UK. Ahead of all other NATO countries. Germany and France are “third party” partners, for instance. There is only one country ranked “first party” intelligence cooperation status: the US itself.

                • Rogue Trooper

                  and that is why there is the defiance and urgency of the Nats to further cement intelligence alliance with the rest of the members; particularly in relationship to the Geographical location of New Zealand.

        • Colonial Viper 1.1.1.2

          If you look at what has happened in Europe over the last 36 hours with countries like Spain, France, Italy, Portugal initially expressing outrage that they are being spied on by the USA and UK (and not just their governments being spied on, but also their ordinary citizens and businesses).

          That outrage going immediately to those same countries banning Morales government jet from refuelling or flying over their airspace, on US suspicions that Snowden was hidden onboard. This forced the Bolivian air force jet carrying the leader of a South American country to turn around and make an unplanned landing in Austria, as it was running out of fuel.

          No more crony, subservient, satellite state behaviour could be found. Its like the old days when Moscow would say jump and Budapest would say how high, sir.

          Take away message: international laws, conventions and treaties will be abrogated at will.

          • Populuxe1 1.1.1.2.1

            Again, this would be the France whose Secret Service were despatched to little ol’ New Zealand (not sure if we were a second party intelligence pardner of the US in those days) to blow up the Rainbow Warrior in one of our ports? The Italian SISMI which has been implicated in everything from the yellowcake forgery to the Imam Rapito affair? Everyone is at it all of the time. Everyone is dirty.

            • Colonial Viper 1.1.1.2.1.1

              You’re an idiot.

              EDIT oh I guess I better add something else to this

              it’s a shame you don’t see the true issue here (as opposed to whining about “they’re all the same”), and have not even addressed a single aspect of the events of which I wrote about.

              Essentially these governments and their politicians no longer serve their citizens; they in fact have next to no sovereign independence left in their decision making.

              Now you may enjoy being a little whiny but ultimately subservient apparatchik, but I’d prefer to see movement towards a nice healthy democracy instead.

              • Populuxe1

                Yes but you seem to be under the impression that it was ever different. The state has always conducted surveilance on its citizens. Governments and politicians have never served their citizens – they have always managed them. When they don’t manage their citizens, you end up with Somalia. Gosh you old fogeys are hung up on your utopian ideals. And yet in the same breath you’d probably self-righteously screech that the need for freedom should not outweigh the need for fairness.
                What exactly do you want? Are you some kind of krypto-libertarian?

                • Colonial Viper

                  yeah. whatever. I never noticed a panopticon surveillance state before but now I have. Little toady apparatchik.

                  • Populuxe1

                    Yup. You’ve been living on the grid since birth – birth certificate and hospital records. School records. Your first bank account. Any power or phone account in your name. Any lease you sign. Tax returns. Credit rating. Police record. The whole shebang. Why are you suddenly getting worked up about it now?

                • Colonial Viper

                  Also, lets get away from this idea that “spying on citizens” is what is happening. This is not a couple of guys sitting outside your house in a car checking when you arrive and leave.

                  What is actually happening is a surveillance state apparatus where without exception all your electronic and voice communications are intercepted, permanently stored on global databases for access at any future time, for any use deemed fit, anywhere in the world.

                • Colonial Viper

                  Further you remember when the Google cars came around and they were found to have matched physical addresses and geographical location information against local wifi/IP addresses and other virtual data?

                  That reference table is crucial in being able to accurately relate the virtual signals captured, to whereabouts in real physical space.

                  • Populuxe1

                    Resulting in an incredibly useful resource that most of us probably use several times a week.

  2. One Anonymous Knucklehead 2

    I think there’s a typo in that last sentence. “Responsible”?

    How incompetent is this government? How much more international ridicule and contempt will they bring upon New Zealand?

    • Wyndham 2.1

      Somebody needs to ask Key what his government’s response to this threat is. He needs to have an answer, it is completely responsible to proceed without one.

      Irresponsible ?

    • r0b 2.2

      Ooops – fixed – ta

  3. Alanz 3

    “GCSB Bill scaring off investors”

    Yes, this has been raised by my IT mates. The GCSB Bill is generating real issues of concern over the security of commercially sensitive information, valuable business data and intellectual property.

    • Descendant Of Sssmith 3.1

      It seems a little odd that that bill is causing concern considering the Snowden revelations – which really just confirmed what many people thought anyway.

      I’d be more sympathetic to private enterprise concerns if they didn’t monitor what I do and sell my name and phone number and address and online shopping habits, etched to others.

      If they track, use and sell my private information then there’s no reason why others shouldn’t track, sell and use theirs.

      Their concern seems to only be in their own self interest.

      • Sable 3.1.1

        Yes how odd people don’t want officials they elected and then pay for every day they go to work spying on them. What are we thinking, after all this is a tin pot democracy at best and we are lucky we are not all placed in shackles.

        And yes, businesses do sell private information but they are subject to oversight by government and bound by legal statute. So who is has oversight for Keys and co should they collect our data? Oh, that’s right, NO-ONE!!!!!!

        • Descendant Of Sssmith 3.1.1.1

          Government collection is open to legal restrictions and oversight as well.

          The private sector is less open to oversight than you profess.

          Try and find out who your information has been sold to by say the yellow pages.

          Try and find out how those pricks ringing my wife during the day and at night to sell her all sorts of crap and schemes got her unlisted phone number or cell phone number.

          Try and find out how your online shopping Information is actually used and shared with.

          My point wasn’t that one is better or different to the other it was no one should collect information on me without my permission or a warrant.

          Private or government.

          • Watching 3.1.1.1.1

            DOS. to answer your question “got her unlisted phone number or cell phone number.”

            This is easy your wife has entered her cell phone into a site somewhere.

            Also (although never have seen it used in NZ) but if you have say 500-1000 cell numbers (like a sport club official – that football club database has a lot of unlisted numbers), and those who have 1000 plus Facebook friends can sell that list.

          • Draco T Bastard 3.1.1.1.2

            Try and find out how those pricks ringing my wife during the day and at night to sell her all sorts of crap and schemes got her unlisted phone number or cell phone number.

            Sequential dialers have been in use since the 1980s at least.

      • Rogue Trooper 3.1.2

        from listening to RNZ;
        “New Zealand will be operating in a state of suspicion, equal to, or worse, than what is seen in the United States.”- Vikram Kumar.
        “meta-data can determine your hobbies, your friends, your politics, etc”.- Tech Liberty New Zealand.

  4. Sable 4

    The king of clowns stumbles yet again. I had wondered if this might not be an obvious outcome of this kind of draconian policy so this comes as no real surprise. Who is going to extensively use phones and the internet to communicate with friends if they think some creepy little government snoop is listening in on their conversation. What about a woman for example, who is talking to a friend about her pregnancy problems, does she want some turd eavesdropping on a very personal conversation?

    I think the only winners in this scenario are the cafes, although slimy Keys and co will probably start bugging those too.

  5. Sable 5

    Oh and on the subject of telecommunications what does this mean for cloud computing. Will anyone want to use a NZ supplier or any supplier with a presence in New Zealand after this debacle? The reality is Keys is BAD FOR BUSINESS. No firm is going to consider placing even day to day correspondence on the cloud if they think it is subject to observation by an unwarranted third party who is not bound by contractual obligation. I know for a fact that cloud firms avoid countries such as the US and Singapore for this reason.

    We are going to become a technological back water under this fool but then maybe that’s what he wants. An ignorant populace of uninformed drones that he can flog off to foreign firms looking for cheap labour.

    • Draco T Bastard 5.1

      We are going to become a technological back water under this fool but then maybe that’s what he wants. An ignorant populace of uninformed drones that he can flog off to foreign firms looking for cheap labour.

      There’s got to be a reason for why National keep fucking up our education system and saying that we’re only good enough to farm.

  6. John Key has probably lined up the same spy agencies who do the spying in USA to come down here and take over the country. No worries mate

    one world order.

    • Colonial Viper 6.1

      NZ has been “2nd Party” intelligence partners with the US for a very long time. This relationship is far closer than say that between Germany and the US or France and the US. It gives NZ many privileges, but also entails many costs and expectations.

  7. karol 7

    Does anyone know if there’s a full record of the submissions to the GCSB hearings available online eg a video of the hearings yesterday?

    there’s a couple of things I’m interested to look at: e.g. there was one business submission where the guy talked about a need to separate oversight of foreign invasions of, or spying on local businesses, from the surveillance spying on foreign threats to the country.

    ie to separate commercial protections from state/national security.

  8. Populuxe1 8

    How richly ironic given that Google has been filtering and using our big data for years.

    • weka 8.1

      You really don’t understand what is at stake here, do you.

      • Populuxe1 8.1.1

        Oh I do, I just enjoy the irony. Here is one of the world’s largest internet companies which has been through various means from tracking cookies and Boolean search algorythms to heaven knows what else to first filter through our web searches, then emails, then Youtube searches, and now all the documents saved in the cloud, to track all our interests and eccentricities, which they have shamelssly sold to advertisers everywhere, and now they are tuttutting the Nats for basically wanting to do the same thing. I am against anybody doing that, but if you can’t see the irony you must be exceptionally dull.

        • weka 8.1.1.1

          You probably agreed with Key then, that what he is proposing to do is the same as Megaupload outsourcing. I’m not the one who is dull witted, mate.

          “and now they are tuttutting the Nats for basically wanting to do the same thing”

          But it’s not the same thing. And the fact that you won’t tell the difference is not dull, just disingenuous. Or maybe you are really thick and can’t tell the difference between a private organisation that is still subject to the laws of the land, and a government that is basically saying it is above the law.

          • Populuxe1 8.1.1.1.1

            No I didn’t, but I think you might be the thick one. Since when has ANY billion dollar global corporation seen itself confined by the laws of the land (or indeed, which land)? That is so cute. We have know way at all of knowing what Google does with all that metadata, so don’t be so naive. That’s why something like this is very scary http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/government/
            Both are or want to be filtering metadata to determine interests and associations without our knowledge or consent – that is exactly the same, hence the irony, but by all means continue to flog a dead horse.
            Also, why has Kim Dotcom suddenly become your best buddy? He’s probably as scummy as Key. My enemy’s enemy is only my friend up until they decide to invade my borders while I’m destracted by my other enemy.

            • Draco T Bastard 8.1.1.1.1.1

              I’m with Pop1 on this. In fact, I think I prefer the government having access to all the data that Google gets than Google. At least the government can be held to account whereas multi-national corporations? Well, how much tax did Google pay in NZ last year? The reality is that we can’t, and don’t, hold multi-national corporations to account.

              • felix

                Yeah I agree in principle.

                However the new piece of the puzzle is the confirmation that our governments are actively working with google and facebook.

                • Colonial Viper

                  The imbalance between the power of citizens and the power of governments is getting way out of whack.

                  A system where the government knows everything you are doing as a citizen and when you are doing it, but where you know fuck all as a citizen of what your government is doing as an institution, is extraordarily dangerous to democracy.

                  n fact, I think I prefer the government having access to all the data that Google gets than Google.

                  This is naive in the extreme. Who the fuck cares if google has that information because they are actually relatively powerless; in the US what happened was that the IRS got hold of that information and then started using their governmental powers to target political activists. That’s when you worry. The intersection of corporate information gathering and governmental coercion.

                  here’s a real life example for everyone here who doesnt want to think ahead. Lets have the government create a law enabling WINZ to access all the txt messages and email accounts of beneficiaries. This information, it is said, is necessary to correctly determine if someone is in a relationship, if they are living where they say they are living, if they are really estranged from their parents etc.

                  What say you guys? Good system, right?

                  • Pascal's bookie

                    That was a beat up about the IRS actually. Stems from their electoral financing law. Groups registered under a certain tax code shouldn’t be campaigning. It was suspected that many were in fact campaigning, so the IRS targeted groups registered under that code which had explicitly political names, like Tea party, or Occupy. Turns out some of the groups were rorting the system, and used the fact they were investigate to claim to was a witchhunt.

                    far as I’m concerned, fuckers should have paid their taxes.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      LOL

                      it’s time you caught up on what this is actually about

                      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/irs-progressive-groups_n_3492679.html

                      I’d be interested to hear your conclusions.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      That’s seems pretty close to what I said doesn’t it?

                      What do think it says?

                    • Colonial Viper

                      PB – think it says that activist and political groups who challenge the status quo hierarchy, regardless of which side of the political spectrum they are on – have been targeted.

                      Historically, this is a very bad sign.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      CV, they were targeted by the IRS looking for people who were not paying their taxes. Should the IRS not investigate tax evasion? Or should it just not investigate politically named groups for tax evasion?

                  • Draco T Bastard

                    The imbalance between the power of citizens and the power of governments is getting way out of whack.

                    Correct, which is why we need a more open government.

                    Who the fuck cares if google has that information because they are actually relatively powerless;

                    And National govern for the rich and powerful, i.e, Google. To suggest that Google is powerless is the naive position.

                    Lets have the government create a law enabling WINZ to access all the txt messages and email accounts of beneficiaries.

                    The correct position there is to have welfare that isn’t determined by peoples relationships. We could call it a Universal Income.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      A totalitarian surveillance state is the real fear Draco, not National shovelling more money towards its cronies. In a toss up between the two, we’d be lucky if we got to choose the latter.

                  • Populuxe1

                    “Who the fuck cares if google has that information because they are actually relatively powerless…”

                    Riiiiight – and Hollywood was relatively powerless when our employment and copyright laws all got chnaged.

              • Watching

                Draco T Bastard – one of your best responses.

                One of the differences is that corporations are using this data in our daily life – every day. They know too much personal data at the micro level – for instance http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/

                Whereas I expect spooks only become interest in individual data if a flag is found

                • Draco T Bastard

                  Whereas I expect spooks only become interest in individual data if a flag is found

                  That’s the way I figure it as well and laws and procedures can be put in place to ensure that’s the way it stays.

                  • McFlock

                    Whereas I expect spooks only become interest in individual data if a flag is found

                    and doctors are only interested in the xrays of their own patients…

                    • Draco T Bastard

                      I didn’t say that the procedures were perfect and considering how many cases actually go through the DHBs what we’re looking at there is seems fairly minimal. As it says in the article:

                      But most confidentiality breaches were low-level and resulted in verbal and written warnings, she said.

                      “These are the ones who find out that a friend’s in hospital so they look up the record to see what ward they’re in, or they’ve heard their friend has had a baby, so they look up the health record to find out the sex.

                      “We put this in the ‘How could you be so dumb’ category.

                      “We basically give them a lecture, make them take the privacy training and leave it at that.”

                  • Populuxe1

                    And (at least I hope) governments are going to contain that information and confine it to specific contexts. God knows what Google might do with it.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      The reason they are storing the data is because they want to be able to search it as contexts arise. The system presupposes changing contexts. Otherwise they’d only collect context specific material.

                • Colonial Viper

                  Whereas I expect spooks only become interest in individual data if a flag is found

                  All you guys are just frustrating the hell out of me.

                  This is not the experience with Police database systems its not the case with the current GCSB system, both of which have been demonstrated in court to have been accessed or used inappropriately, why the honest-to-god-frak would you believe that “the spooks” are going to be a more saintly grade of human being?

                  Unbelievable.

                  • Pascal's bookie

                    IKR.

                    It’s better if the state collects all the data because they’ll only ever look for bad guys and rules can be put in place and the definition of bad guys will stay the same forever and ever amen.

                  • weka

                    “Unbelievable”

                    +1

                    eg we already know that activists are targeted, why is that not going to become more so as govt surveillance increases?

                    eg look at the complete fuck up that the Tuhoe raids were. You think that ‘data’ can’t be misconstrued or fitted to look a certain way? You think that they won’t go looking to make the pieces fit the theory?

                    • Populuxe1

                      Of course, had the government been monitoring Greenpeace more closely in 1985, they might have picked up their infiltration by French Secret Service agents and the bombing of the Rainbow Warrior prevented. The fact of the matter is that activist groups are the perfect vehicle for foreign agents to infiltrate.

                    • weka

                      Are you completely thick? That’s not why the govt spies on activists.

                  • Draco T Bastard

                    This is not the experience with Police database systems its not the case with the current GCSB system, both of which have been demonstrated in court to have been accessed or used inappropriately

                    Yep, they have, this doesn’t prove that we don’t need the database, only that better systems need to be put in place to prevent inappropriate access.

                    Yes, we need the database because crime does happen and the statistics that are generated from other data also helps us immeasurably.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Oh fuck off Draco you are fucking dreaming. Seriously, these ideas you have are amongst the absolutely most dangerous and corrosive to NZ democracy on the entire fucking Standard, and that includes all the idiot RWNJ proposals.

                      Wait until the next Sir Robert Muldoon gets in or the next Sid Holland, or a sociopathic version of John Key, with their hand picked intelligence chiefs and then give him access to your beautiful little surveillance and citizen activities recording tool.

                      Stupid.

            • Pascal's bookie 8.1.1.1.1.2

              What might google be doing with all the metadata Pop?

              You’re sounding a bit like muzza here, all hints of secret things that people should be aware of if they weren’t so naive etc.

              So call me naive. fair enough. Educate me about the scale of the threat google poses.

              I have the usual knowledge about police states so I know about the threats of that states pose. Are they the same?

              • Draco T Bastard

                Well, it comes down to who runs the police states and usually it’s the people with wealth and power such as Google.

                “Fascism should really be called Corporatism as it is the merging of government and business.”

                Which is what we’re seeing as more and more government services are carried out by private businesses.

              • Populuxe1

                A government is likely to keep that information to itself – it is only motivated by threats to itself. A corporation’s only motivation is profit – they could sell your data to anyone including everything from debt collectors to organised criminals.

                • Colonial Viper

                  Somewhat impractical distinctions, I fear. For instance, in the US, corporate officers and government officers move between their positions as heads of banks and the White House staff in a never ending game of musical chairs.

                  And in NZ, we have seen plenty of politicians spend their time in Parliament, setting up their lifestyle and career outside of Parliament.

                • Pascal's bookie

                  Any evidence that companies sell credit card #s to criminal gangs?

                  That would seem to be a fairly easy thing to do, and yet they don’t, as far as I’m aware. Any idea why, or whether those reasons would be transferable to metadata?

                  ‘Threats to itself’, is a pretty broad category too, I’ll note in passing.

                  • Populuxe1

                    I doubt they would sell credit card data, but what if you were in witness protection and a company sold contextual data that could be used to locate you to a shell company that was a front for whoever was looking for you? Or perhaps that data could be used to formulate increasingly convincing confidence scams.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      Why wouldn’t they sell credit card numbers?

                      Ready buyers that’s for sure.

                    • Draco T Bastard

                      Well, they have bee knowingly working with the crims to launder money so what’s to say that they haven’t?

                  • weka


                    Any evidence that companies sell credit card #s to criminal gangs?

                    That would seem to be a fairly easy thing to do, and yet they don’t, as far as I’m aware. Any idea why, or whether those reasons would be transferable to metadata?

                    That’s what I meant when I said that corporations are still bound by the laws of the land. If google sold it’s data illegally, and was found out, do you think nothing would come of it?

                    I’m not doubting that google is very powerful, and I was one of the people that spoke out about privacy concerns when they first bought in gmail etc (to which I was told, if you’ve got nothing to hide you having nothing to fear, and, what could possibly go wrong?). But govts taking themselves beyond the law is a whole other order of badness.

                    My other question:

                    What does google have about me that I don’t know?

                    What do the five eyes have about me that I don’t know?

                    And what does the govt have about me that google doesn’t?

                    Does google have access to the details my ISP holds about me? Does it have access to my medical records? My records at WINZ? Does it have recordings of my phone calls? Does it know who my neighbours are? My friends? Does it know which political party I belong to? Does it know what I really think about the Tuhoe raids, the TPPA, whether I marched against the Tour, whether I’ll be at x protest next week?

                    Is google going to put a bug in my living room, bedroom, phone because my flatemate/best friend is a member of an animal rights or peace activist organisation. Or knows Tame Iti. Or KDC?

                    As I said, I spoke out early about the potential problems of what google would become, and I think google can become alot worse than it is now. But it pales in comparison to what the NZ govt is becoming and the impacts that will have on our lives.

                    “At least the government can be held to account whereas multi-national corporations?”

                    Really? How’s that working out with the current lot?

                    • Draco T Bastard

                      Does it know who my neighbours are?

                      Probably.

                      Really? How’s that working out with the current lot?

                      Yep, we have some work to do but they will be gone next election and we can persuade the next government to put in laws that prevent the dictatorial ways of this government. I’ve even suggested the shape of such a law.

                • Colonial Viper

                  A government is likely to keep that information to itself – it is only motivated by threats to itself.

                  The US diplomatic cables released by wikileaks should have shattered the last remnants of this illusion. The US gov actively aids US corporations on commercial matters, up to and including economic espionage.

                  • Populuxe1

                    Because those commercial matters are to the benefit of the state and therefore the analogy still holds.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Well in that case, I agree with everything that you say – there is no clear bright line between state activities and private sector activities any longer, in fact quite the opposite is true.

            • weka 8.1.1.1.1.3

              “Also, why has Kim Dotcom suddenly become your best buddy? He’s probably as scummy as Key. My enemy’s enemy is only my friend up until they decide to invade my borders while I’m destracted by my other enemy.”

              Where have I ever said that KDC is my best buddy? Or anything about his moral, ethics, motivations, trustworthiness?

    • Huginn 8.2

      Google does not aspire to enforce a monopoly on the application of legitimate violence.

      • Populuxe1 8.2.1

        No, but it might sell your data to people who aspire to enforce a monopoly of the application of illigitemate violence.

        • Pascal's bookie 8.2.1.1

          I wonder still, why nothing like this has happened as far as we know.

          Or rather, I wonder if you might have any ideas about that.

  9. Dv 9

    Sort of Ironic too that Key and Banks went to extremes (including raids on the media) to keep thier teatapes secret too.

    • Populuxe1 9.1

      Very much so – but all politicians are hypocrites – it’s just a matter of degree

  10. Rogue Trooper 10

    from what I gathered from Dotcom on Campbell Live:
    -”US committing mass surveillance on the world”
    -”and other Five-eyes partners”
    -Five years of PRISM data was, and can be sought when background ‘enquiries’ are carried out.
    -Regarding Edward Snowden – “I don’t know him personally, and that’s all I have to say about that” ;)
    -US are in breach of 1/3 of UN charters they’re signed to.
    “Gonna try to do my best to influence politics”…in this country. – Kim Dotcom

    Irony: “they cal me (Dotcom) a pirate”.

  11. Rogue Trooper 11

    meanwhile, Corrections are overhauling how they handle confidential information data-base. hmmmm
    What does it all mean…

  12. captain hook 12

    what I really want to know is this. where are the million new Aucklanders coming from.
    I was taught at UNI that cities dont reproduce themselves.
    growth only comes form immigration be it rural or international. so what are they going to do if they materialise.
    and dont fret.
    If sky can make a buck peddling their tripe to Kiwis then all other multinationals who can see a profit in our wunnerful lill country will be here come what may.

    • lprent 12.1

      Probably from the same place where the last million came from – immigration from within NZ (the regions tend to produce a surplus of kids that mostly migrate here before or after their OE), and from outside.

      When I was born in 1959 there was something like 420k people in Auckland (the census in 1961 was about 450k), in other words just a bit bigger than Wellington now. One of my parents was an immigrant from the King Country and the other was a local. Which since Auckland had nearly doubled in population since they were born 20 years earlier was mildly odd.

      But nothing much changes in the political process with Auckland….

      People were finding the rate of growth in Auckland remarkable even in 1961. Public transport at the time was in disarray because some idiot minister in the National government of the time had literally torn out the public transport rails because he wanted to build motorways. So Steven Joyce is following in a long tradition of stupidity and the National party is following it’s long tradition of having stupid ministers and fucking up Auckland.

      • Colonial Viper 12.1.1

        They seem to vote in a lot of National MPs however.

        • Rogue Trooper 12.1.1.1

          Oh, and wonder why that might be…let us ponder it for, like, never. :-D

          • Colonial Viper 12.1.1.1.1

            Labour is just misunderstood; if only the electorate *knew* how good Labour is, it would hardly ever get voted out.

            I’m not sure if anyone has considered why a political party which sees itself as representing the views and interests of the vast majority of “ordinary NZers” struggles to climb over 32% in polls.

            Unless of course, it doesn’t really actually represent the views and interests of the vast majority of ordinary NZers and they’ve over the decades, cottoned on to it.

      • karol 12.1.2

        Ah, yes. I was born in Auckland about a decade earlier. My mother was from Auckland, my father from the country, but he came to Auckland for work.

        I recall the building of the motorway through Greenlane – it was a massive project at the time.

        Prior to that, only some families had cars, and those that did, only had one. I grew up cycling, walking and using buses. Roads weren’t that busy.

        Of my generation in my Auckland-born extended family, the minority are still living in Auckland. Others are elsewhere in NZ or overseas.

  13. Adrian 13

    What does DotCom know? Probably anything he bloody well likes, he has access to huge computing power and appears to have some very, very clever buggers working for and with him. What’s the bet he knows everything ( or almost ) the GCSB does and certainly as much as the incompetent SIS ?

    • Draco T Bastard 13.1

      What’s the bet he knows everything ( or almost ) the GCSB does and certainly as much as the incompetent SIS ?

      That’s one bet I won’t be taking. He probably even uses the data better.

  14. Adrian 14

    So if Key says he knows that KDC doesn’t know what he says he knows you wouldn’t bet on Key knowing more than bugger all, and that Key may well be shitting his pants or just weeing them a bit has got me whistling through the day happy in my work.

  15. yeshe 15

    oh, so mean Key-wee ?? that’s really funny … whistle while you work, whistle while you work … :-)

  16. yeshe 16

    or maybe he can do a piggy Muldoon and run Key-wee-wee all the way home ?

  17. aerobubble 17

    Key faces off DotCom, how has it come to this! Obama facing off Snowdon? Cameran facing off Assange. If only there was more distance between the oversight of these agencies and those they oversee! But that would mean the likes of Dunne and Banks would not get to sit over the intelligence services, can you imagine that, Hone one seat puts him on the intelligence committee!!! Else cries of racism and what makes Banks and Dunne so respectable, given Banks in up before the court and Dunne has been thrown off the committee. The joke here people is the shallow excuse for oversight of this most secret of endeavors, that now sees Key facing down DotCom.

    • Anne 17.1

      Key faces off DotCom, how has it come to this! Obama facing off Snowdon? Cameran facing off Assange.

      Made the same point to some family members today. KDC’s smiling response to Campbell’s question “whether KDC had been in touch with Snowden” was intriguing. It really is becoming a truly fascinating international affair!

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  • Accessible healthcare also affordable
      It is obvious from Tony Ryall’s hasty attack of Labour’s plans to extend free GP visits to older people that he hasn’t bothered to actually read the policy, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says. "Mr Ryall’s response to Labour’s...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Full details of oil execs’ junket revealed
    Full details of a $237,000 taxpayer-funded oil executives' junket in 2011 have emerged.National paid the nearly quarter of a million dollars to wine and dine 11 oil executives in New Zealand during the World Cup.The trip included yachting, wine tasting,...
    Greens | 10-08
  • Nats sold 500 rugby fields of land a day offshore
    Under National over one million hectares of land has been approved for overseas sale – 16 times the size of Lake Taupō or the equivalent of five hundred rugby fields a day, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “According to...
    Labour | 10-08
  • Joyce’s dodgy sums fool no-one
    Steven Joyce's attempt to attack Labour's positive plan for affordable healthcare will fool no-one. "We knew that National would try to say that we can't afford free GP visits and prescriptions for the New Zealanders who need it. But, as...
    Labour | 10-08
  • Campaign Launch – Ready to Win
    Today I launched Labour's election campaign at the Viaduct Events Centre, Auckland. Here is the speech I gave....
    Labour | 10-08
  • Labour extends free GP visits, free prescriptions
    Nearly 40 per cent of Kiwis – or 1.7 million people – will be eligible for free doctors’ visits and free prescriptions under a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Last year more than half a million New Zealanders...
    Labour | 10-08
  • Labour promises a fairer ACC for all Kiwis
    Accident compensation for loss of potential earnings will rise under a Labour Government, while people not earning at the time of their accident will also be eligible for compensation, Labour’s ACC spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. Releasing Labour’s ACC policy today...
    Labour | 08-08
  • NZ Govt must push for fair play in Fiji elections
    The New Zealand Government needs to do more to push for human rights and media freedom in Fiji as it stages its first election since the 2006 coup, the Green Party said today.Amnesty International has released a report which documents...
    Greens | 07-08
  • Pacific unemployment still highest in the country
    The Minister of Pacific Island Affairs can boast all he wants about changes to employment statistics for Pacific people but the reality for many Pacific people is nowhere close to National’s promised brighter future, Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William...
    Labour | 07-08
  • Big funding injection for regions in Green Party transport plan
    The Green Party will increase transport spending in the regions by 50 percent over the next decade under its new transport plan, the Green Party said today."Transport is the life-blood of the regions. They have been starved under National," Green...
    Greens | 07-08
  • From smiling assassin to grumpy butcher – on giving Judith Collins a last...
    After #dirtypolitics Key isn’t the smiling assassin, he is the grumpy butcher. When he said Judith had  a ‘last chance’ he meant 1 second after voting closes on 20th September. Key would love nothing more than to cut Collins loose and end...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • If the National Party rowing advert was real….
    If the National Party rowing advert was real there would be more blood in the water. If the National Party rowing advert was real it would be Cameron Slater calling the strokes. If the national Party rowing advert was real,...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Cameron Slater: Zionist and political pundit
    It is hard to know where to start with right-wing blogger Cameron Slater (Whale Oil), especially after the release of Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics. This confirmed everything many of us thought Slater to be: a snivelling pundit who serves...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Bryce Edwards stood down from Herald for election season??? Are the editors...
    I only found this out via twitter last night and I am still in shock. Bryce Edwards, easily the best critical thinker and news analyst the NZ Herald has has been stood down by the NZ Herald ‘for the election...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • So who’s a “conspiracy theorist” now?!
    . . As the media storm over Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics“,  and allegations over smear campaigns continue to swirl,  National’s spin doctors have given Key, Collins, and other National Party ministers a string of  phrases to use in all...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Momentum shift
    When you are deeply immersed in a local campaign sometimes it can be difficult to see the helicopter view.   I don’t know how accurate the political polls are and have always known that things can change quickly in politics...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Dear Toby Manhire. Bad call on backing Farrar
    Oh dear. I say this as someone who regards Toby Manhire as one of the smartest journalists/commentators/columnists this country has, and I think Toby has made a terribly dumb call here. Let’s see if Toby is still singing Farrar’s praises...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Radio NZ apologise to me for getting it wrong
    Radio NZ have contacted me, reviewed the claim by their host that I had an advance copy of Nicky Hager’s book and they have concluded they got it wrong, they have called me and apologised and will make a statement...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Reclaim UoA – Students’ Message to Steven Joyce
    Tertiary Education – we’ve been sold a lemon  A group of 30 students attended an event on Tuesday evening about ‘the future of tertiary education’ at which the Minister of Tertiary Education Steven Joyce was slated to speak. As Joyce...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Can someone in the media please ask the PM of NZ to categorically deny any ...
    Now we see the MO of Slater & Co, the setting up, the digging for dirt, the use of staff to dig that dirt, can the Prime Minister of NZ categorically deny any National Party staff worked with Cam Slater...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Panic setting in for National as they realise what’s about to happen
    And the terror starts to set in. I’ve never seen blind panic like this before  and it’s spreading as the enormity of what’s about to happen starts to sink in. Hager’s book is a mere entree, Nicky’s personal ethics wouldn’t...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics: what the book ultimately reveals is abuse of powe...
    Guide to the many faces of John Key Nicky’s book is now doing what I suspected it would do, create a shockwave of revulsion. Andrew Geddis over at Pundit Blog sums up this attitude best, and it’s reverberations build with every...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Fancy taking children seriously
    Let’s see why all political parties should pay close attention to the Green Party’s policy for children. First, it is a comprehensive attempt to put children, not ideology, at the heart of family policy. Wow, children at the heart of...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Amnesty International: Dear Azerbaijan, Stop Torture, Love Kiwi Kids
    This is a world where many adults often underestimate Generation Y. Being only a few years out of being a teenager myself, I feel I can make this statement with certainty. However, I have been the Youth Intern at Amnesty...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • GCSB meetings today in Christchurch 1pm at Uni 7pm at Cathedral
    The 2014 GCSB meetings to discuss the mass surveillance state legislation passed by this Government will be debated in Christchurch today at two different meetings. 1pm at Canterbury University bottom floor James Height Building: Chair: Bomber Bradbury Ruth Dyson – Labour Party...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Things that 7 Sharp should probably be talking about
    Things that 7 Sharp should probably be talking about...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Guide to when Key is lying
    Guide to when Key is lying...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – The State of the Student Nation …or is just Al...
    Students politics are dead and our student media is in terminal decline. The most disappointing thing about university is the politics, or should I say lack of? I was raised with the idea that students held the power.They were the...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Love Lifts Us Up: Thoughts from the Green Party’s campaign launch.
    Author Eleanor Catton wants people to give their party vote to the Greens.Photo by Peter Meecham NO ONE WAS QUITE SURE how he did it. Somehow Bob Harvey had persuaded the owners of the rights to Joe Cocker’s Up Where...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Test Stream
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    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • LIVE STREAM: You, Me and the GCSB ChCh Public Meetings
    LIVE STREAM EVENT here at 1pm & 7pm: The 2014 GCSB meetings to discuss the mass surveillance state legislation passed by this Government will be debated in Christchurch today at two different meetings. PLEASE NOTE: TDB recommends Chrome and Firefox...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today,
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • How @whaledump might destroy the popular vote for National
    Dirty Politics is now creating a meltdown and National are in danger of a total vote collapse. The real threat to for National was if Nicky had all the emails released via the anonymous hacker who took them. That danger is now a...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Open letter to Radio NZ – you need to make a retraction now
    I have just sent this off to Radio NZ right now Dear Radio NZ Firstly, what a great interview by Guyon Espiner this morning with the Prime Minister. Great to see such hard hitting journalism. Unfortunately I am not contacting...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Radio NZ are lying about me
    I am getting this all second hand at the moment as I don’t bother listening to Radio NZ (except for that wonderful Wallace Chapman in the weekends) but there is a claim that Suzie Ferguson just insinuated on Radio NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Farrar’s fake claim of being invaded + Slater’s claims of death threats...
    The counter spin to avoid focus on the series allegations made in Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics continues. David Farrar’s ridiculous hysterics that he was invaded and his privacy has been blah blah blah has all been reduced from computer hacking to...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • A shout out to the unsung heroes – our Public Service staff
    Government departments, particularly in the social welfare, education and health areas get a lot of shtick. And it’s not unjustified. We have problems in the way that our government departments treat those in need. And I do not intend to...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Key’s ducking for cover – utterly unbelievable!!!
    .   . I don’t often re-print media stories verbatim – but this piece by Andrea Vance, for Fairfax Media,  deserves wider circulation. Please note the highlighted statements by Dear Leader as he ducks, weaves, obfuscates, and deflects any and...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Who is the source of Hager’s emails?
    Who is the source of Hager’s emails? Kim Dotcom has categorically denied he has anything to do with this and Nicky Hager has categorically denied that Kim was the source of the emails. Whatever you think about Kim (and he...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Dirty Politics – Audio+Text Why It Is Essential Raw Data Be Released Imme...
    MIL OSI – Source: RadioLive – Sunday Panel Analysis Headline: Dirty Politics – Audio Analysis by Selwyn Manning + Rodney Hide + Mark Sainsbury MIL Video: Selwyn Manning, Rodney Hide, and Mark Sainsbury discuss and debate the explosive details revealed...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • TV One and TV3 Political Polls – not such a landslide now
    Before the impact of Dirty Politics has been felt, the National Party high point in the Polls had been reached and their inevitable  drop begins. Despite the mainstream media telling NZers for almost 3 years that John Key would win...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – You will not believe Key’s defence of hackin...
    He actually used a sporting analogy. Can you believe it? John Key, asked on the fact that his staff had entered into a Labour Party computer and downloaded their database, Key replied, “It’s a bit like the Wallabies positing up their...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • A brief word on 100 Top political Tweeters
    The NZ Herald has put together a very useful list of top 100 political twtter accounts, what is most interesting from the lists is that the right wing all work hand in glove with each other where as the Left...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Are Whaleoil’s traffic stats a bloated illusion?
    Dim Post has done a critical analysis of just how real Cameron Slater’s traffic stats are. TDB has only been around for a year with a fragment of the digital footprint of the older blogs, yet we have managed to become...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Is Jordan Williams deceptive enough to blackma...
    There are so many issues raised by Nicky Hager’s book, that any one of them would be worthy of total focus on. Let’s chat about the claim in the book that Jordan Williams bragged to Slater and Lusk that he had...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Why ‘see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evi...
    This sign shows how National’s see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil denial isn’t working. National’s response to the book is that there is NOTHING in there that deserves anything more than the most briefest of eye motions. Key won’t...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • “Dirty Politics” and The Teflon Man
    . L-R- David Farrar, John Key, Cameron Slater . The release of Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Secrets” has unleashed more of a political firestorm than many had anticipated. (Or, perhaps some did.) The glare of publicity has been shone like...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Lyndelle Gibara – An Open Letter to Cameron Slater
    Dear Cameron,I am in Christchurch. I am not a ‘useless prick’. I have not asked to be ‘bailed out’ nor have my ‘scum friends’ in the eastern suburbs. I lost my cafe in September, the quakes wrecked my shop that...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Death threats or hit jobs?
    Shocked selfies while reading Dirty Politics are flooding Twitter - verily the vermin value their villainous vanity*    The beauty of Hager’s book is that there are so many horrific awful and insidious highlights, it’s difficult to know what to focus...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Labour release emails proving Key has lied
    Labour have released emails proving Key has lied about National Party involvement into the hacking of the Labour Party computer… The Labour Party has released documents it says proves its website was hacked by people working for the National Party....
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – the TV political panels are ridiculous
    The total lack of depth and shallow talent pool of TV political panel shows in NZ is providing hideous coverage and insight into one of the most important political stories of the year. Yesterday Firstline had Jacinda Ardern and Jamie...
    The Daily Blog | 15-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – response to Canon NZ
    Poor old Canon NZ. They have been so damaged by appointing Cam’s mate as a judge and her awarding him their Best Blogger Award. I feel for them, I really do. They are amazing supporters of Journalism in NZ when...
    The Daily Blog | 15-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – the legality of using stolen emails
    I wonder if Key is humming, “I’ve got one less problem withoutcha” as he deletes Cams number from his phone?   One of the attack spin lines being run by National Party apologists in the media is that Nicky Hager has...
    The Daily Blog | 15-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Release the emails and prove Key wrong
    It is vital in this crisis control of the meltdown that Key comes across as relaxed and not agitated, if he does he gives the game away on how damaged they are. He has to keep denying and claiming he...
    The Daily Blog | 15-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Farrar oxygen stealing stunt backfires
    Oh poor David Farrar everyone. The wee babe is on the verge of a hysterical breakdown because he concludes after reading the hideous catalogue of hate and filth that his friends have vomited up in Dirty Politics that he must...
    The Daily Blog | 15-08
  • Key’s arrogance as a leader
    There is a lot that could be said about John Key at the moment but one thing that really irritates me about him is his complete lack of remorse or regret for the lies he’s told or the things he...
    The Daily Blog | 15-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Nicky Hager’s ...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 15-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson –Winston’s Liver? How about Minto’s Splee...
    I really do want to use my Daily Blog guest-blogger status to do more to amuse, enthuse, entertain and inflame the political classes of this country than just writing endless responses to InternetMANA affiliated personalities who seem to think it’s...
    The Daily Blog | 15-08
  • Hekia speaks with forked tongue
    There was a prescient moment at Wednesday night’s Tick For Kids education forum in Wellington. Hekia Parata had just wound up, and Tracey Martin MP took her place at the lectern. Without a pause she said that the education sector had...
    The Daily Blog | 15-08
  • Show me what democracy looks like: 6 activists for Palestine #Occupy the NZ...
    At around 12pm yesterday Nadia Filistin, who has been a major organiser in the Auckland protests against Israel’s ongoing assaults in Gaza over the last 6 weeks which has killed over 1900 Palestinians and injured thousands, updated her Facebook status...
    The Daily Blog | 15-08
  • New shark finning laws fall short for threatened species
    Environmental groups are welcoming some aspects of a raft of law changes announced today in relation to shark finning, but say that overall the chance for New Zealand to catch up with international efforts in shark conservation is being missed....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Promoting Labour’s Positive Policies
    General Secretary of the New Zealand Labour Party, Tim Barnett, today launched Labour’s television advertisements for the 2014 election. The advertisements help tell Labour’s positive story for a better New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Drug Court: Rare Insight into New Alternative Justice Model
    Māori Television’s latest New Zealand documentary presents a fascinating look inside a new alternative justice model – through the stories of convicted criminals....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Political parties pledge to increase overseas aid
    A survey of political parties looking at how much New Zealand should spend on Official Development Assistance (ODA) shows the overwhelming majority of parties are committed to raising the bar according to the Council for International Development (CID)....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Top Kiwis backing Tip the Scales campaign
    Sir Graham Henry, former All Black Kees Meeuws, singer-song writer Jamie McDell and fishing guru Matt Watson have pledged their support to Tip the Scales, a pre-election campaign generating public support for rebuilding New Zealand’s depleted inshore...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Maritime Union continues to press over dirty politics
    Maritime Union National President Garry Parsloe says Ports of Auckland management is trying to get off the hook from its involvement with extreme right wing bloggers during the Ports of Auckland dispute....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • No end in sight to overwhelming human cost of conflict
    Two ceasefires have brought some respite to civilians in Gaza and southern Israel, amid hope that a durable cessation of hostilities might occur. In Gaza, these breaks in the fighting have barely given people enough time to seek medical care,...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Young Kiwi speakers to represent NZ at Gallipoli 2015
    The RSA is delighted at the announcement made by Veterans' Affairs Minister Michael Woodhouse today, that all eight regional finalists of the 2015 ANZ RSA Cyril Bassett VC Speech Competition will be included in a group of 25 Youth Ambassadors...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • “Bromance” Marriage Stunt Insulting Says LegaliseLove
    A promotional competition asking two best mates to get married in order to win an all-expenses-paid trip to the 2015 Rugby World Cup is insulting, marriage equality campaign LegaliseLove Aotearoa claims....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Cannabis Party first to register for 2014 General Election
    The Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party became the first party to register for the 2014 General Election today, when it meet with the Electoral Commission in Wellington at Midday....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • PGA: Addresses NZ’s ratification of Arms Trade Treaty
    President of Parliamentarians for Global Action and New Zealand MP Ross Robertson today addressed a celebration to mark New Zealand’s imminent ratification of the Arms Trade Treaty (ATT), which is expected within the next few weeks....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Roy Morgan Poll August 20
    National (48%) holds its lead over Labour/ Greens (39%) as ‘Dirty Politics’ revelations provide a new challenge for PM John Key’s leadership. NZ First surge to 6.5% - highest support since September 2013....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • IGIS inquiry into release of NZSIS information
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security (IGIS), Cheryl Gwyn, announced today that she would be instituting an inquiry concerning allegations that the New Zealand Security Intelligence Service (NZSIS) might have released official information...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Glen Scanlon to Head Digital Media at Radio New Zealand
    Radio New Zealand has announced the appointment of Glen Scanlon to the recently created position of head of digital media....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Israel’s Gaza ceasefire violations go unreported
    It seems that it is only ceasefire violations that emanate from the Palestinian side that ever get publicised....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Drug courier sentenced for importing heroin
    South African drug courier, Laura Elizabeth Cilliers, was sentenced today in the Christchurch District Court to 7 years and 10 months in prison for importing approximately 1.2 kilograms of heroin....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Residential Property Speculators Days Numbered
    Rent heat cools as homes are replaced ... Liz McDonald ... The Press http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/your-property/10400851/Rent-heat-cools-as-homes-are-replaced Comment on thread (in moderation) … Christchurch is a “severely unaffordable” City as the Annual Demographia Survey ( www.demographia.com ) illustrates … thanks...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Academic’s study shows need for a Ministry of Public Input
    A book by Associate Professor Jennifer Lees-Marshment recommends the creation of a Ministry of Public Input to collect, process and communicate the publics’ ideas to government. The University of Auckland’s political marketing expert says the...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Government inaction killing innocent motorists
    Innocent people are dying due to long delays in installing centre lane barriers on high risk roads, says an outspoken road safety campaigner....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Property revaluations for council rates must be reformed
    Opportunity to bring controls on rating value changes and more equitable level of annual rates increase...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Ron Mark Sets the Example
    The Taxpayers’ Union is welcoming the pledge by Mayor of Carterton and NZ First candidate Ron Mark who has announced he would relinquish his roles as Mayor and member of two District Health Boards if successfully elected to Parliament. Taxpayers’...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Ban 1080 Candidates announced for 2014 General Election
    MEDIA RELEASE: Angry rural communities want issue of 1080 aerial drops taken to the polls, says party co-leader Ban 1080 Candidates announced for 2014 General Election...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Governor General Gives Direction to Conduct Election
    The Governor General, Lt Gen The Rt Hon Sir Jerry Mateparae, has given the green light for this year’s General Election....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • New Zealand Animal Groups Unite to Help
    WELLINGTON (19 Aug 2014) – The Be Cruelty-Free campaign to ban animal testing of cosmetics in New Zealand just got bigger and stronger, as two leading animal protection groups come on board. Joining forces with Humane Society International which has...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Students Interrupt Steven Joyce at University Event
    A group of 30 students this evening interrupted an event about ‘the future of tertiary education’ at which Tertiary Education Minister Steven Joyce was slated to speak. As Joyce began to speak, students interrupted with a speech of their own....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Caritas among first responders offering relief in Iraq
    As the plight of Iraqis fleeing persecution reaches tragic levels, Caritas Aotearoa New Zealand has pledged an initial $10,000 to support the work of Caritas in Iraq to provide humanitarian aid to thousands of families affected by the war and...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • iPredict 2014 Election Update #31: Nats take hit
    Election race narrows significantly · National party vote now below Labour/Greens · National’s probability of leading next government dips to 72% · Joyce expected to take over as National leader before end of 2015, as Collins’ prospects fall...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Call for applications – Fulbright scholar awards
    Fulbright New Zealand calls for applications to a range of scholar awards for New Zealand academics, artists and professionals to undertake academic and cultural exchanges to the United States of America. A Fulbright exchange provides life-changing opportunities...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • CWS launches appeal for Iraqis on World Humanitarian Day
    Christian World Service is appealing for help for tens of thousands of Iraqis caught up in one of the world’s horrifying conflicts....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Promoting the Voice of the Rangatahi
    Young Māori voters are seen by the Māori Party to have a vital part to play in saving the Māori seats in Parliament says the Māori Party’s youngest candidate, Reverend Te Hira Paenga. “What we’re hearing on the ground is...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Nelson Election Candidates’ Community Forum
    Nelson’s community and volunteer sector has some serious questions to put to the local candidates in the run up to next month’s general election....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Research NZ Budget Observer – Still On Track For Surplus
    New Zealand's Treasury today released their pre-election budget update, ahead of the 20 September vote. The government still expects to get back to surplus in 2014/15, albeit a slightly smaller surplus than expected in May. The growth forecasts were...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Nicky Hager’s first public comment on police investigation
    A complaint has been laid with police by Cameron Slater over the hacking of his computer and 'theft' of emails to supply to Nicky Hager for his explosive book Dirty Politics . We give Nicky Hager the first chance to...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Disabled Person’s Organisations report sent to UN
    A report written by Disabled Person’s Organisations (DPOs) representing the voice of disabled New Zealanders has been released and sent to the United Nations today....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Fuel and electricity price gouging hits regions hardest
    Mere Takoko - New Zealand First East Coast Candidate For Immediate Release - Tuesday, 19 August, 2014...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Government “opening of the books” shows wasted opportunity
    “The economic and fiscal forecasts in the pre-election update – the ‘opening of the government’s books’ – shows how the Government has failed to grasp the opportunity of the Global Financial Crisis to rebalance the economy,” says CTU...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Kiwis take up the challenge to end extreme poverty
    High profile New Zealanders have been invited to participate in Live Below the Line (LBTL). Part of a global initiative, LBTL challenges Kiwis to raise awareness of extreme poverty and to live on a daily food budget of $2.25 for...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • NZ Independent Coalition announces strong list
    NZ Independent Coalition Secretary Helen Anderson announced the party’s candidates for the 2014 election today - 10 candidates total, with four also standing in electorates....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • National Chooses to Campaign on High Tax, High Spend Policy
    The Taxpayers’ Union is slamming Bill English’s indication that the National Party will not offer voters any indication of tax cuts before next month's general election. Speaking to journalists and analysts in the Pre-election Economic and Fiscal...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • SSC survey shows way forward for better public services
    The Public Service Association (PSA) has welcomed the release of the State Services Commission’s (SSC) Integrity and Conduct Survey 2013 , which it says indicates what needs to be done to strengthen the public services that New Zealanders use and...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Talent pipeline is the key to correcting gender balance
    Building a talent pipeline that fosters talented young women from early on in their careers is the key to gender balance at the most senior levels, according to EEO Trust Chief Executive Bev Cassidy-Mackenzie....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • A-Team of Election Data Analysis For Election 2014
    NZ's leading independent online news source Scoop.co.nz has teamed up with data heavyweights Roy Morgan Research and Spark Venture's brand-new big-data start up Qrious to deliver a under the covers perspective on the 2014 NZ General Election that has never...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Pre-election Economic and Fiscal Update 2014
    Full PREFU: prefu14whole.pdf Full Executive Summary with charts: prefu14pt2of11.pdf Online: Pre-election Economic and Fiscal Update 2014 — The Treasury - New Zealand...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Survey of Integrity and Conduct in the State Services
    The State Services Commission (SSC) today published the report of the 2013 Integrity and Conduct Survey of the State Services. “The New Zealand State services is rated highly internationally for its standards of integrity and conduct and is considered...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Demand for Same-Sex ‘Marriage’ Underwhelms
    Family First NZ says that one year on from the marriage law being politically manipulated, the demand for same-sex marriages has been underwhelming with just 318 same-sex couples rushing to take advantage of the new definition to formalise their relationship...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Jacinda Ardern talks about life as an MP
    A class of Albany politics students gained some insight into life as a Member of Parliament this week, with a visit to campus from Labour List MP Jacinda Ardern....
    Scoop politics | 18-08
  • Regional issues top agenda for election debate
    Wellington regional issues, from the flyover to extending the airport, will be in the spotlight at an election debate at Massey University’s Wellington campus tomorrow....
    Scoop politics | 18-08
  • Walking and the Election
    The Green Party has topped the polls while National has failed to register according to NZ's pedestrian advocacy organisation Living Streets Aotearoa (LSA)....
    Scoop politics | 18-08
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