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GCSB cover-up once in a decade

Written By: - Date published: 7:22 am, December 5th, 2012 - 79 comments
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Remember when Bill English signed a Ministerial Warrant on behalf of John Key in a last-ditch attempt to stop the GCSB’s illegal spying on Kim Dotcom from becoming public? Remember how, laughably, GCSB, Key and English said they didn’t know the spying was illegal when they got the warrant, and the warrant was routine? Did you wonder ‘what’s a Ministerial Warrant?’ I did. I’d never heard of one. Well, the Greens investigated. Now, it turns out there’s only been one issued in at least a decade.

So, this wasn’t just some routine thing that Prime Ministers and Acting Prime Ministers routinely sign from time to time.  This was a power that had probably never been invoked in the experience of any of the officials, let alone the experience of the people meant to be controlling them. I imagine it took the GCSB quite a bit of effort to even work out what a Ministerial Warrant should look like because they had no model to draw on (GCSB says they know none have been issued in at least a decade, but don’t mention knowing of any being issued before that either).

Are we meant to believe that this extraordinary action was completed by simply passing a piece of paper under English’s nose and he didn’t so much as raise an eyebrow, let alone inform Key, and that the GCSB staff didn’t feel compelled, in the absence of such pro-activity by English to explain to him and Key what the Warrant was and why it was needed?

And, doesn’t this just make you ask again, what is so special about the Dotcom case? Why the armed raid? Why was GCSB involved at all? Why did everyone choose to ignore the obvious illegality of their involvement? Why did Key display a remarkable lack of interest about the wealthiest person in his electorate? Why did the GCSB dig up a power that no-one can recall being used to try to suppress involvement that they claim they thought was legal at that time? Why did English and Key turn as little attention as possible to all this?

Why?

What’s really going on?

79 comments on “GCSB cover-up once in a decade”

  1. Jenny 1

    It can now be revealed what the mysterious US spy plane’s mission was in Wellington.

    It was to conduct a rendition of David Shearer and Russel Norman and replace them with Texan dopplegangers.

  2. muzza 2

    http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/pm-confirms-spies-met-in-wellington-5259855

    http://wellington.scoop.co.nz/?p=48349

    Wellington has long been a hotbed of spook activity..

    Probably unrelated but….

    Anything to do with the girl who *fell* from the IA building….

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10834384

    • karol 2.1

      Hmmm… mysterious and weird.  Why is Sir Peter bothering with Hobbit films and the related branding of Wellington as Middle-earth.

      He could do movies much more reflective of the double life of Wellington: maybe one called The Ms Bourne Identity …? 

      Also this statement from the PM is kinda weird:

      “I don’t track every official that comes to New Zealand. People come all the time. Some come on planes, some don’t…I don’t bother going to ask who’s on those particular planes.”

       
      If not by plane, then how….?

      • leftriteleft 2.1.1

        That sort of statement from Dear Leader just shows that mouth goes into gear before the brain (oops, does he have a brain).

      • muzza 2.1.2

        Indeed Karol, it has long been suggested that NZ, like many other countries is controlled by the intelligence forces afrom various regions, and I would suggest that is getting harder to argue against all the time.

        JK’s comment is simply that of a man who is so totally befuddled by the orders now, he can’t even have a coherent sentence contructed for him by the PR team to regurgitate.

        So far as Peter Jackson is concerned, and his allegence with Warners, shows that he is now part of the Hollywood/Military?intelligence programme, which is what Hollywood is. PJ just could not have achieved what he has, without crossing some very serious ethical/moral lines, if he ever had them, and I would contest that his earlier movies made in NZ would illustrate that he was on a different path anyway, and one that Hollywood is built on!

        Why did a young woman *fall* from the IA building, and why has there not been any follow to this? Why then in AKL a few weeks later, did a mother and child *fall* from an Auckland apartment building.. http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/national-news/7765055/Dad-returns-after-woman-and-babys-fatal-fall

        The woman’s husband and baby’s father, who was in the country on business, flew to Auckland this morning from elsewhere in New Zealand.

        Doing what sort of business, like in Wellington Perhaps?

        He is being supported by Auckland-based Mexican Consulate staff

        Supported – Like the israelis after Chch, in other words, he was being kept out of the limelight

        It all stinks very badly, and why are people *falling* out of buildings all over the place!

        In old language, falling off a building was the old classic for….being waxed!

        • McFlock 2.1.2.1

          Muzz, these are real people you’re talking about.
                 
          We don’t know the circumstances of either case, but statistically speaking suicide or accident are more likely than homicide. And multifloor buildings provide an efficient mechanism for the first option, but still don’t quite cover up the third.
               
           

          • muzza 2.1.2.1.1

            these are real people you’re talking about.

            Yes they are, which is why I have raised it!

            What we do know McFlock is that these both happened some months back now, with SFA additional information.

            Why is a woman *falling* from the Internal Affairs building , and why is she still as yet not publically identified, same goes AFAIK for the Auckland situation!

            Ill check both these out again further later on..

            • GregJ 2.1.2.1.1.1

              Muzza – I think McFlock has made a valid point which you should perhaps reflect on. Her name is known to her family, friends and colleagues (both current and former of whom I am one). As there is deemed to be no suspicious circumstances (i.e. not a matter of interest to the police) the death has been referred to the coroner (which was reported in the media). I believe it is not uncommon for the names of people subject to a coroner’s inquiry to not be “publically identified” unless or until an inquest is undertaken. The media may have chosen not to name her for a number of reasons e.g. sensitivity to the family.

              New Zealand is a small country and the degree of separation quite small and there may well be people who read this website who also know who this person was and the circumstances. I know your idle (?) speculation was not malicious (and I don’t think of myself as overly sensitive) but I was surpised to find I was actually a little distressed by your post. Perhaps we should all remember to just pause a second or two before we hit submit?

      • PlanetOrphan 2.1.3

        Mainly Submarines Karol.

        They are here to check out the specs on those Chinese routers would be my guess.

        No one else had the brains to ask for them when evaluating the encrypted logging features.

      • Rich 2.1.4

        I wondered that and assumed that the more low-key US spy uses a submarine as transport.

    • karol 2.2

      Maybe the Wellington meet is part of the latest CIA international recruitment drive, as reported in the Guardian at the weekend.  

  3. Bill 3

    What’s a Ministerial Warrant? Dead easy. One minister scribbles on a piece of paper – ‘it warrant me!’ And another minister signs it. This then provides adequate grounds for cast iron denials.

    • mike 3.1

      Is it anything like a ‘Oh fuck no one was supposed to find out about this’ Warrant?

    • Treetop 3.2

      Orchestrated distancing does require careful planning and more so when you are head of the GCSB.

  4. BLiP 4

    .

    Where was John Key at the time this was signed? Off on some hastily-scheduled excuse to scarper at the right time to protect the brand, I’ll bet.

    • deuto 4.1

      The ministerial certificate was signed by Bill English as acting prime minister in August while Key was in the USA watching his son play baseball.

      • BLiP 4.1.1

        .

        Ahhh . . . that’s right. It seemed a bit off at the time when John Key said watching sport was more important than attending a commemorative service for Kiwi soldiers killed in action. Now we know why. Watta guy.

      • felix 4.1.2

        Oh dear, I do hope it was signed on the Monday that Key’s son was playing, or at the very earliest on the preceding Sunday.

        If it were on the extra Thursday, Friday or Saturday that he inexplicably had to leave the country for, causing him to miss the memorial service for the soldiers killed in Afghanistan, then people might start asking awkward questions about why he had to leave the country on a Thursday to catch a Monday baseball game.

    • Peter Martin 4.2

      Wasn’t it in the US to both do some bizzo and watch his son play sport?…

      • BLiP 4.2.1

        .

        Which reminds me, judging from a local media report at the time, looks like John Key just can’t help himself:

        . . . “I’ve been prime minister for four years, and it’s really 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year” . . . [and] . . . “Baseball also is attracting more government support” he said.. . .

        Never mind the fact that John Key is the Minister of Overseas Holidays, Baseball New Zealand has never received government funding. Still, two more items for the list:

        - I’m Jewish/Christian/Agnostic

        - 1981

        - Tranzrail shares

        - Lord Ashcroft

        - National Ltd™ would have sent troops into Iraq

        - Standard & Poors

        - “I didn’t say I want wages to drop”

        - “I won’t raise GST:

        - Capping, not cutting the public service,

        - “North of $50 a week”

        - Privatisation won’t significantly help the economy

        - Wave goodbye to higher taxes, not your loved ones

        - “I never offered Brash a diplomatic job in London”

        - Kiwisaver

        - National Ltd™ is not going to radically reorganise the structure of the public sector

        - Tax cuts won’t require additional borrowing

        - National Ltd™ will tender out the government banking contract

        - “We [NZ] have grown for eight of the last nine quarters”

        - “…we will be back in surplus by 2014-15…”

        - “…unemployment is starting to fall…”

        - “…we have created 45,000 jobs…”

        - “…we are likely to create 170,000 jobs in the next 4 years…”

        - “I don’t own a vineyard”

        - The Isreali spy killed in the Christchurch quake had “only one” passport

        - The Police will not need to make savings by losing jobs

        - GCSB x 3 (that we know about)

        - “I voted to keep the drinking age at 20″

        - New Zealand is 100% Pure

        - “I’ve been prime minister for four years, and it’s really 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year”

        - Baseball in New Zealand is attracting more government support

  5. This is sooo stinky.

  6. deuto 6

    A good post, Eddie – the questions you ask are all the ones that have been bugging me for months. And good on the Greens for their proactive investigation into how rare these ministerial certificates are/

    I seem to recall that at the time the ministerial certificate became public, both Key and English attempted to brush it off as something very routine and of no particular interest. If my memory is correct, I remember an interview with English where he shrugged his shoulders and stated this precisely but cannot find that interview on a quick search.

    However, I did find this Stuff article which gives the flavour of both Key and English’s spin at the time (and the fact that Key was in the USA watching his son play baseball when English signed the certificate).

    https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/politics/7723279/Police-asked-spies-to-snoop-on-Dotcom&sa=U&ei=Rly-UPqzDavqmAWa9IGQDg&ved=0CBAQFjAD&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNFA6rIww-vBM8Tepti9_W8NeyLjig – I must learn how to short these links!


    The blunder became public yesterday once documents were lodged at the High Court.

    But Key admitted today English was alerted to the involvement of spooks in August, while acting prime minister. Key was in the US watching teenage son Max compete in a baseball tournament.

    The role of the secretive GCSB began to unravel when Dotcom’s lawyer Paul Davison asked for the identity of mystery individuals at a meeting before police and FBI agents raided the entrepreneur’s Coatesville mansion in January.

    After the court hearing English signed a ‘ministerial certificate’ – an administrative document – relating to the court case.

    Neither Key nor English can recall the exact date. But Key left for a ten-day trip on on August 9 – the same day the mysterious group was first revealed in court.

    ”There was a ministerial certificate that was signed. That’s another technical issue, I haven’t actually seen the paper work on that, that would have indicated that the bureau was involved,” Key said this morning.

    ”A ministerial certificate is in relation to information about whether the bureau has acted, because a court, or someone might ask, for that information. So, it’s essentially a suppression order.”

    English said he had signed the certificate but couldn’t recall the detail. He is ”not all concerned” about what the report might uncover.

    ”The issue is being dealt with pro-actively both by the agencies and by the Prime Minister.”

    Asked today if he had signed the indemnity order English said he needed to check documents before he could comment.

    “I’ve been involved in the adminstrative processes related to this thing; but I wouldn’t comment till I’ve had the opportuntiy to go and have a good look, what was involved, what advice was given.”

    • Johan 6.1

      English and Key both have faulty memories when it comes to recalling important events. In my opinion I wouldn’t trust either one to run this country. One look at mister double dipper and mister Flannel then you know the NZ citizens are in deep trouble. We need reliable leadership at the helm, especially now with the yanks pushing the TPP.
      Honestly, where are our opposition members in the House, journalists etc. who should be working for our interest, keeping an eye on our democratic way of life.

    • karol 6.3

      The warrant was signed by English on August 16 – I reckon that was a  Thursday.

    • PlanetOrphan 6.4

      Hi dueto,

      Wrap the links in an <A tag to shorten them
      href=”[actual link]” etc the text you see is in between the a and the /a

  7. RJLC 7

    What’s really going on?

    Liars telling lies.

    • kea 7.1

      .. more likely just the wheels of government turning and being subjected to unfamiliar scrutiny by citizen bloggers.

  8. Saarbo 8

    This is just un – faaaarken – blievable.

    The Greens are certainly leading the way at the moment. Just about every move that they make is a winner.

    • geoff 8.1

      Yep, I’m starting to think it would be best if the Greens wins a majority of the seats in any green/labour alliance.

    • Mary 8.2

      Except Metiria’s this morning on RNZ about beneficiaries being helped into jobs. She’s usually pretty good but boy, she sounded like someone from ACT today.

  9. Name (Optional) 9

    Once again the Greens show themselves to be the real party of opposition while Labour slumbers waiting for what goes around to come around.

  10. karol 10

    NRT on a an OIA, that shows there’s no procedure or checklist for briefing the PM when he returns from overseas – all ad hoc.

  11. AmaKiwi 11

    “I imagine it took the GCSB quite a bit of effort to even work out what a Ministerial Warrant should look like because they had no model to draw on.”

    I think you have the process backwards. GCSB was trying to solve a serious problem. Someone said, “I once heard about something called a Ministerial Warrant. Let’s see if we can use that to solve our problem.”

    Next question: What was the problem GCSB was trying to solve? You and I speculate it was about Dotcom’s residency. It might have been something more sinister. Only the people who drew up the warrant know what it was they had to hide.

    The longer they cover it up, the fouler this rotten mess smells.

    I recommend the main stream media ignore this issue because it goes to the question of who is running the country and how illegal are their methods. We wouldn’t that answered honestly, would we?

  12. xtasy 12

    The powers at the helm have their way of misleading the public in the most cunning manner.

    Nobody can tell me and convince me that the signing off that English did was done so “routinely” and only, because Key did not happen to be in the country.

    You would have to be an IDIOT to believe that.

    Sadly the situation in NZ is one, where we have a mass brainwashing mainstream media, distracting beyond tolerance, being full with petty occupations, being dishonest and also full of career minded, self serving “journalists”, who do not care about the traditional “4th estate” role anymore.

    It is ME, ME and ME, how can I get attention, hit a nerve, “create” a story and put MYSELF in the focus, what drives most modern reporters and journalists.

    So we get NO news, NO substantial info, we get drivel, distraction and worse.

    In light of this, it is so convenient and easy for a dishonest, highly manipulative government, to take advantage of the status quo and do what they do, and what they are pleased to do.

    The GCSB scandal is treated by media in the same way as the ACC “scandal”, the WINZ “privacy scandal”, the “John Banks scandal”, and so forth.

    Do you not get it? It is only in the news a few days, if that, then it is subsiding, suffocated, distraction happens, and the government is in full gear to deliver other stories, especially about suspected internal goings on in the opposition and so forth, so that the dumb and “corrupt” MSM instantly forget, conveniently forget, what their role should actually be.

    Commerce comes into play, so advertisers who pay the bill, they do NOT want to upset the government, viewers and others, they want it to stay as it is, to get easier for themselves and to sell, sell and sell, so they make BUCKS.

    So re ACC, what happened re the “cheque-book doctors”? Re WINZ, what happened to the “kiosk issues” and also “cheque-book doctor allegations”? Re Banks, what happened to the so convincing and revealing report from police obtained under the O.I.A.? NADA. It all gets swept under the carpet too quickly, and we are all back to square one.

    THE DICTATORSHIP OF BUSINESS AND GOVERNMENT DOMINANT INTERESTS IN NZ IS WORKING!

    • AmaKiwi 12.1

      I share you anger about the MSM, but investigative journalism is very expensive. The Washington Post employed Woodward and Bernstein for six months before they got their FIRST story in print and then it was not a blockbuster story, only a strong hint of impropriety.

      It took another six months before Watergate was a national obsession and the Washington Post could reap the rewards by selling tons more advertising. News media only make money selling ads. Facts don’t pay the bills.

      Paying two reporters for 6 months with no results is very expensive. Our media don’t have that kind of money.

      • xtasy 12.1.1

        Ha, ha, ha, that is why I am doing it free of charge, so to say.

        You are sadly playing into the hands of the commercial industry, that everything anyone does has to be PAID and thus COSTS.

        This forum, like a few cherished other ones, proves you a bit wrong.

        Ok, most here is not that deeply researched, but some is, more can be done, and I would totally strongly recommend any writer in this forum to invest the time to research, analyse and write stories, that are of substance and can inform, and by the way also CHANGE things!

      • xtasy 12.1.2

        I sent heaps of stuff on MSD to the email address of the Standard before, but for some reason, it was not “noticed” (unbelievable), not considered “worth” reading, and/or not worth publishing.

        So that was all totally well researched stuff, but it was NOT picked up.

        Somewhere, somehow, one gives up trying!

        It has now been sent to others, and maybe some of them will take it further. Really “dumb”, I must say.

        • Descendant Of Smith 12.1.2.1

          Likely it wasn’t picked up because it was focussed seemingly on mainly your own issues and didn’t appear to be well researched.

          A good example would be your continually stating that Health and Disability advisors were there to get people off benefit when I recall at the time people were complaining that they were finding it difficult to get on an Invalids Benefit.

          Then after they were put in place Invalids Benefit numbers went up.

          So the question that occurs to me is how many people did they help get their entitlements versus how many did they remove entitlements for?

          What would an OIA asking about their recommendations show?

          Has that changed over time?

          Are they now saying no to more people than they said yes to?

          A bit of research would be helpful.

          Yep I get it’s part of the government’s big picture to focus strongly on employment as the solution to everything (without creating jobs) and you can see that across areas like education as well – courses must be related to jobs – me personally I’m happy to have art and philosophy and humanities, etc.

          In the end your long postings get about as much of a glance at as Penny’s. Your short ones I still read.

          It’s also evident that sometimes posts I do that I think are worthy of notice don’t get noticed but that’s just the nature of blogging and no different to the nature of normal conversation.

          My profundities are just sometimes others inanities and it’s never all about me. That’s life.

          I’d add however that overall I do enjoy your input here as at times you do make me sit up and challenge my own thinking and look at things from a different perspective. You also often remind us that elsewhere things are much more tougher and the resistance is as well.

          • xtasy 12.1.2.1.1

            Sorry you are not informed. I have done extensive research, it was ALL documented, so some of you did fail to realise the worth of it, which is not giving any credit to you ability to research, substantiate and write stories that you do write here on the TS.

            I am having second thoughts now to even bother posting on TS.

            I feel you are not up to the skills needed to dig up stories and dirt, and that is why this government gets away with it does, and also previous Labour covers up the crap they got themselves into. Responses I have (in writing) from Ardern totally prove the dishonesty and lies by Labour.

            So live with that, dear “DSM”!

            Cover your “mates” of the corrupt Labour Party for sure, I have NO trust in you or them!

            They committed enough of lies and other legal breaches I can well document!!!

          • xtasy 12.1.2.1.2

            Like I and others have experienced too, O.I.A. requests are increasingly treated with contempt. They are not at all answering questions and try to find every cop out possible, and if they reply it is usually late and vague.

            You are doing your party a disservice to defend the crap we get all the time.

            If you are really there for the poor and working people you would not be so bloody arrogant.

            We are treated like SHIT, that is beneficiaries, and most do not raise anything, because they are too bloody scared to bite the hand that feeds them. That went on under Labour too, and I had first hand experience. You are an arrogant shit person to come across with your know it all attitude!!!

            • Descendant Of Smith 12.1.2.1.2.1

              Directly or indirectly you asked for some feedback. I tried to give you some.

              If you’ve followed my postings over the last few years you’ll note that I have kids with disabilities, I’ve been a benefit advocate, a union delegate and had a long involvement in the disability sector either directly or via my wife.

              One of the thing that annoys me is the fear created by some people for others in the disability sector by extreme portrayals of what is going on.

              Individual experience does not make for everyone’s experience.

              There isn’t a single person that my wife or others working with her across a range of physical, intellectual and psychiatric disabilities from severe to moderate that have had any attempt to have their entitlement to an Invalids Benefit removed.

              What has had to be managed is the distress and worry that fear-mongering causes them. It’s bad enough managing the right-wing media attacks on them, abuse thrown at them in the streets, the discrimination they feel on a daily basis and advocate and argue against all that stuff without also having to manage the fears generated by people who purport to support them. Maybe if you had to deal with that on a day to day basis you might have a degree of caution about what you say.

              Yeah it’s a more conservative approach than you would take but it’s just as valid.

              You’ll also note if you read my posts that I’m highly critical of Labour and it’s treatment of beneficiaries and that they lost my support during Helen Clark’s time (after previously having lost my support during the Rogernomics period) in particular for putting the $20-00 power week back on NZS and not on benefits.

              So it’s not my Labour Party at all.

              I’m cool with information – dis-information just pisses me off cause it distracts.

              And yeah my experience isn’t yours and that may simply be the fact that I may be in a different part of the country where things may be done differently – who knows.

              It’s not arrogance it’s just different.

              • xtasy

                Thank you DSS:

                Maybe you gathered your experiences before 2007 or 2008.

                I have reports AND own experiences since then that tell me and them a totally different story.

                WINZ is NOT fair, reasonable and broke the law in many cases.

                Not only did I experience this I got records from others..

                A guy in Southland now gets “special treatment” after issues werre raised.

                You are living in lala land to believe all is fine, it is anything but! But I get it, Labour and Nats work along the same lines. Fuck that!

              • xtasy

                By the way I got first hand info from my GP about a WINZ “designated doctor”, and if I would reveal this here, it would send shivers down the spine of sick and disabled sent to him (who was one of the top doctors used by WINZ)!

                Do not try to intimidate me, I know bloody well what I am talking about, it is also before the Health an d Disability Commissioner now, dumbo!

              • xtasy

                I do authorise Lynn Prentice to disclose my email address to you, and then we can hopefully commmunicate, sort details out and get clear on this.

                I look forward to provide you and others with information that will be over-whelming to prove my argument.

                Sadly so far, you are accommodating the position of Labour and the Nat government!

                • Descendant Of Smith

                  “Do not try to intimidate me”

                  I don’t even know where that comes from. I was genuinely trying to give some constructive feedback.

                  I seem to get myself occasionally into an argumentative position when I engage with people at a personal level and try and present my own perspective.

                  It’s never my intent to upset and be argumentative.

                  I think I’m learning that that level of engagement isn’t suited to blogs and that I should pull back from doing so.

                  I tend to think conversationally and it doesn’t quite work in in this format. It’s a bit of a learning curve for me.

                  Xtasy if I ever come across you in my normal job and in any of the community roles I’d be more than happy to help you out where I could.

                  In this role I won’t be engaging with anyone via e-mail or otherwise much as I might wish to. As stated I totally respect the wishes of my wife as they stand. Things may change once the kids have all left home.

                  I do genuinely wish you well and I did mean what I said, when I said earlier, that you do stretch my thinking at times as do many others. My fight might be more conservative but I do also fight against many of the same things you are fighting against. There’s more than one way to skin a cat.

              • xtasy

                Sorry, I contemplate suicide every day I wake up, that is where I come from! I do not want to live like I have to, and WINZ have made my life hell over the last couple of years, that is the simple truth. I am sorry, you have your challenges, so it seems they treat you a bit better. Good on you for that.

                • Descendant Of Smith

                  Never think life’s not worth it.

                  My wife has directly prevented two people committing suicide in the last few months and both indirectly and directly we’ve had plenty of experience with suicide over the years.

                  I detest the criticism of governments and predominantly right wing bloggers and commentators of this countries own citizens as bludgers and breeders and the impact that very commentary has on peoples self-esteem and mental state.

                  Governments have a duty of care for all it’s citizens – not just those it decides to like.

                  I posted some time ago the principles behind welfare out of the 1970′s yearbook and quite clearly there is no party at present in NZ of even articulating the inclusiveness and compassion shown in that yearbook description.

                  If anything I’m fortunate for whatever reason to have strong resilience – that’s luck and genetics maybe. Not all my family is as resilient.

            • Bill 12.1.2.1.2.2

              xtasy. A wee while back you provided a number of links to WINZ related stuff in comments. I didn’t go through them all, but saw enough to suggest that something quite comprehensive could be made of it all. And I remember suggesting you compile a post around the info you had.

              I’m curious as to whether you wrote anything up or not or, if you did, whether it wasn’t posted as a guest post for some reason or other.

              • xtasy

                It has been “spread” by a few, but given your ignorance, I am fighting an uphill battle, but that is nothing new. I am and so are other right onto it. it was a battle for Gandhi, Martin Luther King and others, so I will NOT give up!!!
                Thanks for taking note though!

              • xtasy

                The fact that you did not go through it proves enough to me to disregard your position.

              • xtasy

                I want YOU to lose your job and income, to LEARN what it is all about to be down the shit hole that many of us are in!
                That is, I fear the lecture needed, that most “middle mellow socialists” need to learn.

                Come and join us, do NOT preach to us, and then we will sit down and talk, matey!

                I had the gutsfull of this “matey” talk by fake NZers. I had the fucking guts full of false pretences and hollow promises.

                Wake UP, mate!

                • karol

                  Are you talking about Bill losing his job, xtasy?  What makes you think he has one?

                  • xtasy

                    .
                    Good question! That may qualify him to argue! I suspect he still has, and losing a job is not what I am usually wanting to happen to anyone, but for some it may be a good learning experience, to understand where others are at. Hate to say this!

                    • Descendant Of Smith

                      You might be interested in a much stronger view of the welfare changes by the greens that Labour under it’s current guise can ever show.

                      http://blog.greens.org.nz/2012/12/06/is-it-all-in-their-heads/

                    • just saying

                      I can’t be arsed linking, but you may wish to refer (via the search engine) to read Bill’s post on his own experiences as a beneficiary in the process of painting his house. It was written in response to Shearer’s famous “anecdote”.

                      You do yourself no favours when you run off at the mouth xtasy.

                    • xtasy

                      Descendant of “Smith: What do you bloody mean?

                      Jan Logie is definitely more sympathetic for the needs of disabled and sick than anyone else. I have corresponded with her and Ardern. Ardern is quck to respond, but that is where it is left, no further responses after initial contacts.

                      Logie has worked in the sector and is quite involved. Sadly she has too many other responsibilities in her party, so she can only do so much.

                      She will also be at the WINZ office in Onehunga, Auckland on 11 Dec. 2012.

                      There is more I can say. You should not run down the Greens, as they are quite solid on welfare issues.

                      And for “guest post” writings, I have never been assured that TS is going to write and publish it, given the fact that some have ulterior motives too. It was definitely made availabe, and it was, I presume for political diligence, NOT ever published.

                      So tell me more, I am anything but convinced.

                    • lprent []

                      I think you just fail to realize how little time we actually have. I try to scan the incoming contributions at least once every few days. But I have absolutely no time to deal with guest posts that aren’t ready to put up immediately. Those take about 20-30 minutes each to read and setup with graphics, excerpts, categories, tags, and checked links.

                      But I usually work at least 9 (and often closer to 11) hours a day on my paid work both at work which is a solid day of computer programming followed with prep at home. Then I spend a lot of time moderating, read other blogs and news, and sometimes manage to do a few posts. Somewhere in there usually on the weekends I try to stay on top of my profession with it’s rather insane learning curves. Good thing that I don’t have kids. As far as I am aware all of the people handling the contributions queue are all tied up with family or work. Right now I have slightly more time than usual because I don’t have to cook for Lyn – she is off shooting a doco in India.

                      I woke up the other day at 0530 worrying about my project at work, so i cleared the guest posts. By 0800, I’d managed to read 6 guest posts, put two up, and unusually written a email to one person explaining why their posts didn’t make the cut and why. But this was my first opportunity to do it for a week. It isn’t good enough, but it will have to do until my two and a half year project at work ships it’s second product. I can’t live on that little sleep.

                      If you want to see your guest posts up, then write them so they are ready to just publish. that means that they should be less than a 1000 words, have a coherent and argued opinion, and supporting facts and links. Graphics, titles, excerpts, suggested categories and tags would be nice time savers.

                      And please stop moaning about it so I don’t stay up to 0200 explaining the same thing again. Don’t moan – just write the damn things in a form that we can use.

                    • Descendant Of Smith

                      I was pointing out the greens are taking a much stronger position against the welfare changes.

                      PS The quality of the submissions in making those points is good as well.

                      Labour don’t even raise a whimper against them.

                    • karol

                      xtasy, you are so wrong about, Bill.  He is an unemployed beneficiary and you have criticised him of being in paid work with no understanding of beneficiaries.  See his post here.  

                      You also criticised Descendant of Smith for supporting the Labour Party’s anti-beneficiary line, when if you look at what he said @9.26pm above, he says the opposite.

                      I always think the old Nettiquette idea is the best one to try to follow as much as possible: attack the ideas not the person expressing them. 

                • rosy

                  Your comments show you’re fed-up xtasy, but you really shouldn’t assume you know a person’s circumstances e.g. http://thestandard.org.nz/to-the-back-teeth-and-beyond/

              • lprent

                Bill if you are interested in doing something with it, I will bump it through. It wasn’t suitable as a guest post as it was (mostly length and a lack of focused opinion) from my recollection, and we don’t edit. None of us picked it up as a guest post.

              • xtasy

                Bill:
                May I apologise for wrongfully confusing you with someone else and not remembering your post about living on a benefit some time ago.

                I admit, I lost it last night and should not have thrown around accusations and labeling other commenters unjustifiably.

                Otherwise I am tired of trying and raising issues. I may in future leave it to others to make some efforts, rather than drain my own energy.

          • xtasy 12.1.2.1.3

            Let me guess: Your are an arrogant public servant living off our monies!?

            • Descendant Of Smith 12.1.2.1.3.1

              I use an alias at my wife’s request.

              Her and the family have enough flack when I’m pushing local issues.

              When I talked to her about commenting on wider more national issues she asked that I do so in this way.

              Selfish maybe but I value my wife and family more than I value commenting on blogs.

              She shouldn’t have to deal with shit cause of me and nor should my kids.

              • xtasy

                I have no issues with your alias. I take issue with what you said before, defending Labour re beneficiaries. I have not understanding and time for that!

              • xtasy

                DOS – I apologise. I had a bad night yesterday and have more on my plate than I sometimes can deal with. So my criticism of you and excessive rant was over the top and in part not justified.

                It just dismays me that some fail to realise what goes on at WINZ and certainly at ACC. It affects people’s lives, and it appears they treated you and your kids better than some others.

                So you can appreciate this, I understand. Yet there are also some appalling stories I have come across.

  13. xtasy 13

    This is not so “revolutionary” as I had thought TS was!

  14. burt 14

    So how does Key hang on through this? Didn’t Key once say if he was caught lying he’d resign ? During the campaign trail in 2008, it might have been in a leaders debate ????

    • tracey 14.1

      “Didn’t Key once say if he was caught lying he’d resign?”

      It doesn’t count if you were lying when you said it and crossing your fingers.

    • Te Reo Putake 14.2

      I think it was “caught not lying”.

  15. karol 15

    Dotcom has won the right for the GCSB to be considered a defendant, meaning they get access to some GCSB documents.

    …  the Government Communications Security Bureau be officially made a “defendant” in a judicial review of the botched police raid on his mansion in January.

    Forcing the GCSB to be tied to the court action opens it up to court ordered “discovery” – meaning Dotcom’s lawyers can go fishing for documents as they continue to fight extradition to the US to face copyright charges.

     

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  • High dollar, hands-off Govt sends workers to dole queue
    The loss of up to 100 jobs at Croxley stationery in Auckland is devastating news for their families and the local Avondale community, Labour’s Employment, Skills and Training spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The company’s inability to compete in international markets...
    Labour | 21-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Public servants behaving with more integrity than their masters
    The State Services Commission's new report on the integrity of our state services reflects the yawning gap between the behaviour of public servants and that of their political masters, Labour's State Services spokesperson Maryan Street says. “This report, which surveyed...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Phil Twyford Speech to NZCID
    "Labour's plan to build more and build better: how new approaches to housing, transport and urban development will deliver cities that work" Phil Twyford, Labour Party spokesperson on housing, transport, Auckland issues, and cities.  ...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Labour commits to independent Foreign Affairs and Trade
    “Labour is committed to New Zealand’s Foreign Affairs and Trade policy being independent and proactive, Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson David Shearer says. “We are a small but respected country. Our voice and actions count in international affairs. Labour will take a...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Key must sack Collins over abhorrent actions
    The latest revelations that Judith Collins sent the contact details of a public servant to WhaleOil in a desperate attempt to divert media attention from a bad story is abhorrent, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key and Judith Collins...
    Labour | 19-08
  • It’s downhill from here under National
    The forecast drop in exports and predicted halving of growth shows that it’s downhill from here with National, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Growth under this Government peaked in June and halves to two per cent in coming years....
    Labour | 19-08
  • John Key loses moral compass over Collins
    John Key has lost his moral compass over Judith Collins’ involvement with Cameron Slater and lost touch with New Zealanders’ sense of right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Whoever is Prime Minister there are expectations they will not...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Mana Movement General Election 2014 List confirmed
    The MANA List is now confirmed with all the candidates as below (the numbers are the respective Internet MANA rankings). Candidate, Electorate, Internet MANA List Position Hone Harawira, Te Tai Tokerau (1) Annette Sykes, Waiariki (3) John Minto, Mt Roskill (4) Te Hamua Nikora, Ikaroa-Rawhiti...
    Mana | 18-08
  • PREFU likely to confirm dropping exports
    National’s economic management will be put under the spotlight in tomorrow’s PREFU given clear signs the so-called rock star economy has fallen off the stage, with plummeting prices for raw commodity exports, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Under National,...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Record profits while Kiwis face a cold winter
    The record profits by two of New Zealand’s largest electricity companies will be a bitter pill for New Zealand households who are paying record amounts for their power, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “No doubt the Key government will...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time for John Key to answer yes or no questions
    John Key’s train-wreck interview on Morning Report shows he is no longer capable of a simple yes or no answer and has lost touch with what’s right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key has become so media...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Key must clarify who signed out SIS OIA
    Yet again John Key is proving incapable of answering a simple question on an extremely important issue – this time who signed off Cameron Slater’s fast-tracked SIS OIA request on Phil Goff, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “John Key’s claim...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time to invest in our tertiary education system
    A Labour Government will fully review the student support system – including allowances, loans, accommodation support and scholarships – with a view to increasing access and making the system fair, transparent and sustainable, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says....
    Labour | 17-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Denis Tegg – When Did We Agree To Our Data Being Shared with ...
    New shocking evidence has emerged from Edward Snowden’s trove of documents about a program called ICREACH under which data collected by the GCSB is shared with 23 US spy agencies. Under new sharing agreements which appear to have commenced immediately after...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Why Internet MANA are the best political friends the Greens could ever get
    Metiria at last nights #GreenRoomNZ: standing on the shoulders and camera cases of giants  NZers, regardless of political spectrum or apathy level, have a wonderful beach cricket egalitarianism about us. If we can objectively conclude a winner, then that person...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Sick of the Sleaze? Protest against National’s dirty politics THIS SATURD...
    Sick of the Sleaze? Protest now dammit! Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government’s track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Sir Edmund Thomas – Address at Nicky Hager public meeting
    I regard it as privilege to chair this public meeting. I have long had the greatest admiration for Nicky Hager’s work, and nothing I have read or heard in the media over the past week or so has caused me...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour and New Zealand Superannuation
    The kerfuffle in the wake of Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics has had a detrimental impact on our discussion of economic policies. Signs are that the main beneficiaries of the dirty politics revelations will be Winston Peters and Colin Craig; certainly National suffered...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Mike Hosking and the Leader’s Debat...
    A few weeks ago I blogged that Mike Hosking was a terrible choice as moderator for the TV One Party Leader’s Debate, because he is so embarrassingly biased in favour of John Key. So I watched the show with curiosity,...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Democracy and Cancer: A critical analysis of Dirty Politics
    Twenty years ago, England’s renowned television playwright Denis Potter died of pancreatic cancer.  Readers may recall his two masterpieces ‘Pennies from Heaven’ and ‘The Singing Detective’.  During a final television interview with Melvyn Bragg, Potter declared that he had named...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Cunliffe beats Key in First Leaders debate
    I watched the First Leaders debate at the Green Party #GreenRoomNZ, they were very kind to include me and the atmosphere was great. The debate was a resounding victory to Cunliffe. He won Round 1, Round 2, Round 3 and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • LIVE STREAM: The Green Room Leader’s Debate from 6:30pm
    The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding to the debate live, along with comment from thought leaders and commentators. ‘The Green Room’ 6pm – 8.30pm...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • How many taxpayer funded staff does John Key need to prepare for a Leaders ...
    John Key is currently at the Auckland Stamford Plaza with 40 staff, 4 undercover police cars and an entire floor booked out in preparation for tonights Leader’s debate. Isn’t 40 staff including coms, flown up to Auckland for a debate...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • A brief word on National Party Rodney MP, Mark Mitchell
    MP considers legal action against Nicky HagerThe National MP says he is considering taking a defamation case after the September 20 election.“Someone needs to be held accountable,” he said. Oh really champ? Brothers and sisters, there is a long way...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Greens advertise on Whaleoil – but not on The Daily Blog?
    PaknSave have shown ethical compass and blocked adverts on Whaleoil, yet the Greens are advertising on Whaleoil, and not The Daily Blog? I would imagine there are far more potential Green voters on The Daily Blog then ever are on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • It’s about the stupid economy stupid
    In focus group meetings, the sleepy hobbits of NZ by a staggering amount all believe that National are better economic stewards of the country than Labour, that’s why, instead of answering questions about blackmailing MPs, trawling brothels for dirt on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour Policy vs National Policy
    John Key’s favourite defence spin at the moment is people want to talk about policy and not hear answers on the ethics of trawling brothels, why Slater was given SIS information, blackmailing MPs into standing down, rigging candidate elections and hacking...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • The Green Room live streamed on TDB 6.30pm tonight for First Leaders debate
    The ‘Green Room’ will stream 6.pm tonight on The Daily Blog during the TV One leaders’ debate.Use #GreenRoomNZ to join in. The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Manukau East – the next Coalition in action
    A couple of weeks ago I had the pleasure of opening Voice Up – a youth forum run by young people in Otara. I had been asked as Chair of the Local Board to set the scene, encouraging young people...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – The Big Bang Theory
    It’s a shame that it took a brain injury for me to start seeing things with such startling clarity. The realisation that lawyering, fishing, parenting, selling cars and racing yachts had common themes was stunning. Not perhaps as stunning as...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, how much Key aro...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls
    MIL OSI – Source: Selwyn Manning – Analysis Headline: 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls 5AA Australia: On this week’s Across the Ditch bulletin on 5AA Australia, host Peter Godfery and Selwyn Manning discuss the aftermath...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • La’o Hamutuk calls for inquiry into Timor GAP ‘mismanagement’ of oil ...
    The Suai project on the South Coast … “liberated” land but confused communities.Photo: La’o Hamutuk David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. AN INDEPENDENT Timor-Leste development and social justice agency has called for an inquiry into the Timor GAP corporation...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • What Is Nicky Hager?
    WHAT WILL HISTORY MAKE of Nicky Hager? That slight, perpetually boyish, journalist who descends periodically, like the admonishing angel in a medieval mystery play, to trouble our consciences and wreak merry havoc with the orderly conduct of our political affairs....
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Can anyone in msm explain how after Dirty Politics that they all got played...
    Would you not think, that after reading Dirty Politics, that our mainstream media wouldn’t allow themselves to get tricked and played again by the VERY SAME discredited pundits? The best new feature on Radio NZ is their ‘Blog Watch’ and their...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Crusher Collins caught out lying about Privacy Commissioner – is this her...
    Crusher angry. Crusher smash own career. Crusher more angry. You would think that after getting outed as such a nasty, vicious piece of work in Dirty Politics, that Crusher would be scrambling to dial back the lies and manipulations. Apparently...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Cunliffe vs Key – first leaders debate
    This is your election ‘moderator’ – just one more reason an incoming Government need to sack everyone at TVNZ and reform it into an actual public broadcaster. The first leaders debate happens this Thursday, 7pm on TV One. I have...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – An Old and Honourable Profession
      When Dirty Politics started to reference an ex-prostitute I began to get antsy. My first response was “come on Nicky, we decriminalised in 2003. Its sex worker.” My second response was “Ah oh. Who was it and did they...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Bought and paid for: the dirty politics of climate denial
    Has climate denial in New Zealand been bought and paid for by corporate interests? We already know that the ACT Party’s routine denial is closely linked to the financial support the party receives from wealthy free market fundamentalist Alan Gibbs,...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • If the msm read The Daily Blog, THIS wouldn’t be a surprise – explainin...
    Yawn. How embarrassing for Hamish Rutherford and Andrea Vance, their breathless article today suggests that the idea of Labour and NZ First cutting a  deal over the buy back of assets  is some how new news. Silly mainstream media  journalists. If...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker??
    Yesterday I did some calculations to find out what tax John Key pays compared to a worker on the minimum wage. And I put out this media release for the Mana Movement: MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Hip hop death threats – the selective outrage of our media
    PM death threat in hip hop songAn Auckland hip-hop crew slammed for releasing a song with lyrics that apparently include a threat to kill Prime Minister John Key are urging young people to enrol to vote. Kill The PM, by...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes
    Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this!
    I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this weird spear tackle from behind by his own company. I was listening to this interview at the time, and the awkwardness of it must be the worst...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Is it weird Radio NZ ban me yet still have….
    Is it weird Radio NZ ban me for life because I criticised the Prime Minister yet still have Matthew Hooton, David Farrar and Jordan Williams, 3 of the main protagonists revealed in Dirty Politics as part of their ongoing political...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Christchurch GCSB meeting – why mass surveillance matters in 2014
    This is the video for last weeks GCSB meeting in Christchurch. Don’t forget Nicky Hager’s public meeting Wednesday night in Auckland, TDB will live stream the event in the interests of our democracy. Broadcast starts 7.30pm here on TDB....
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Assange, Greenwald to appear at Town Hall meeting? + KDC is not the hacker ...
    Wikileaks founder and the engineer of revealing some of the largest abuses of power in the modern era, Julian Assange, is rumoured to be appearing at the September 15th Town Hall meeting. Assange would join award winning investigative journalist Glen...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Why Paula Bennett will be the next leader and Hooton throws the Prime Minis...
    I don’t think the public have any idea of the behind the scenes meltdown now occurring within National. There are plenty of decent right wingers who all have ethical standards who have looked at what their leaders have been doing and...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – That Awkward Feeling When Your Campaign Goe...
    Urgh. It’s a thankless and nearly impossible task politically firefighting some days. Somebody (who isn’t you, but who’s in your care, or whom you’ve got a close professional relationship with) does or says something stupid; somebody from the Media’s there...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Dirty politics goes viral
    Join the latest social networking craze this election that every Dog Cat and Jabba is putting on their facebook pages.     Joe Trinder – Ngāti Awa Born and born in Ōtepoti Ōtākou, Ex RNZN he is an Information Technology...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Blogwatch: An open letter to David Farrar: Please, be that guy
    Dear David, In light of  Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics, you wrote a blog entitled ‘Some changes on Kiwiblog’ and you suggested it was time to tighten up ship on your website, saying “I want to improve trust in myself,...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • What The Hell Was That! Reflections on the media’s coverage of the Intern...
    WHAT, EXACTLY, DO WE KNOW about the confrontation outside Internet-Mana’s campaign launch? Well, we know the news media was there in force. We also know Internet-Mana’s media person, Pam Corkery, blew her stack. We know that Corkery’s outburst led the...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • NZ First candidate – homophobic, bennie bashing anti-intellectual clown
    Oh God, apart from Ron Mark, Tracey Martin, Curwen Rolinson and Winston before midday, the woeful cavalcade of political circus freaks NZ First seem to attract has picked up another hitchhiker. This time Epsom candidate Cliff Lyon who said this about Labour… “If...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Nicky Hager Public Meeting LIVESTREAM on The Daily Blog 7.30pm Wednesday 27...
    As part of our commitment to the 2014 Election debate, The Daily Blog will Livestream the Nicky Hager public meeting in Auckland, 7.30pm live from the Mt Eden War Memorial this Wednesday on this site. Doors open at 7pm. It...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Opening Night. It’s like an opera!
    On Saturday night just gone, we collectively experienced one of the premier panegyrys of political pageantry in our three yearly electoral cycle. For one glorious weekend evening every three years, it’s not the All Blacks or some Super 14 team, or...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Unions – what ...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Timor-Leste’s Parliament handed ‘humiliating’ defeat over harsh media...
    East Timorese journalists raise their hands to approve the Timor-Leste JournalistCode of Ethics in October 2013. Photo: Tempo Semanal/Cafe Pacific   David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. PACIFIC SCOOP reported this week that East Timor’s Appeal Court had scrapped...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • THIS is why we need a public broadcaster!
    The richest 20% of us in NZ own 70% of the wealth, with 18% in the hands of the second richest quintile, and 10% in the hands of the middle quintile. Just 2 per cent was owned by people in...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • A vote for Key is a vote for this
    A vote for Key is a vote for this...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Why the Secret Intelligence Service feeding Cameron Slater information is s...
    Folks, it doesn’t matter if you are Right or Left, the issue of the Secret Intelligence Service being forced to feed a far right hate speech merchant like Cameron Slater with sensitive information is an ‘us’ issue. The SIS are...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • How lost and irrelevant are ACT?
    So ACT had it’s ‘launch’. Well, what passes as an ACT launch these days. Lot’s of anorak’s with that 1000 yard star and dreams of a Milton Friedman Free Market dancing behind their eyelids all crammed into a room small...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • National Party rowing advert aimed at Gen Xers
    Unkind wags such as myself would suggest that if the above were a real representation of National, it would look more like this…   National know they have the rural mob and the angry provincial vote locked in, with their...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • National Housing propaganda – McGehan Close Revisited
    .   . Housing has become a major, defining issue in New Zealand. We have critical shortages and escalating prices in  in the main centres and falling house values in the regions. The National government has addressed the supply &...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • New Zealand’s biggest problems are Economic Issues
    New Zealand’s biggest problems are Economic Issues (41%) while the World’s most important problems are War & Terrorism (35%) just three weeks before NZ Election...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • NZ 2014 Leaders Index – week ending 29 August
    Below is iSentia’s first weekly Leaders’ Index, showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. We will produce these reports for the next three...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Judgment in Paki v Attorney General
    Tamaiti Cairns said that today’s Supreme Court decision is complicated, but, in essence opens the door for Maori people to go forward with their essential claims to water. Further work is required and Pouakani Trust will continue to pursue its...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Supreme Court Decision on Maori Water Rights
    “ … the Supreme Court refused to give Pouakani people what they asked for, but may have given them something much, much better instead. The Appellants had argued that the Crown’s ownership of the River was as a fiduciary for...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Leaders Dinner with Campbell Live, Dessert with RadioLIVE
    John Campbell is hosting Colin Craig, Winston Peters, Laila Harre, Metiria Turei, Peter Dunne, Jamie Whyte and Te Ururoa Flavell LIVE from Auckland’s Grand Harbour Restaurant on Wednesday 3 September at 7pm....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Credit unions in the political spotlight
    Dirty politics was put aside last night as senior politicians outlined their universal support for growing the cooperatively owned credit union and mutual building society sector in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Maryan Street on issues of importance to older people
    Liam Butler interviews Hon Maryan Street MP on issues of importance to older New Zealanders...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • John Hanita Paki and others v The Attorney-General
    JOHN HANITA PAKI, TORIWAI ROTARANGI, TAUHOPA TE WANO HEPI, MATIU MAMAE PITIROI AND GEORGE MONGAMONGA RAWHITI v THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL OF NEW ZEALAND FOR AND ON BEHALF OF THE CROWN (“THE CROWN”) (SC 7/2010)...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Last Nights Leaders Debate Drives The #nzpol Wordcloud
    Following last nights leaders debate on TV One between John Key and David Cunliffe, the data insight organisation Qrious collected all tweets that used the hashtag #nzpol from approximately the last 24 hours to produce this wordcloud....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Campaign suggests reason behind suicide gender statistics
    An online campaign about meaning and belonging has revealed an interesting connection with the difference in suicide rates between men and women....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Act Policy Vindicated by Sensible Sentencing Data
    ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte says the Sensible Sentencing Trust's just released analysis of 3 Strikes legislation "proves ACT was right to promote the policy and that it has made New Zealand a much safer country. The figures show beyond...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • “Robin Hood tax and other clever ways to help our kids”
    It’s time to talk about tax. Not just income tax but other kinds of tax too....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Cannabis Laws Breach Treaty – ALCP
    Cannabis prohibition is neo-colonial oppression resulting in the disproportionate imprisonment of Maori, the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party says....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • 2014 Variation Broadcasting Allocation Decision Released
    The Electoral Commission has released a variation decision on the amount of time and money allocated to political parties for the broadcasting of election programmes for the 2014 General Election....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • New Zealand Shoppers- Demand Blue Tick Accredited Products
    Following ongoing concerns surrounding the issue of animal welfare in farming, particularly in the layer and broiler chicken sectors, the RNZSPCA is now asking consumers to purchase only eggs, pork, turkey and chicken that have been Accredited by the Blue...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • EDS welcomes Labour’s Environment Policy
    The Environmental Defence Society has welcomed Labour’s Environment Policy which recognises that New Zealand cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy environment....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Candidate calls for an end to institutional racism
    29 AUGUST 2014 Tāmaki Makaurau candidate, Rangi McLean has spoken up in support of Irie Te Wehi-Takerei who was wrongfully accused of shoplifting at a Warehouse store in Manukau. "Over the last month, two different supermarkets have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Making tertiary education more accessible to Māori
    29 August 2014 The Māori Party launched its tertiary education policy today at Te Huinga Tauira o Te Mana Ākonga, the national hui for the Māori Teritary Students Association in Palmerston North. Te Tai Hauāuru candidate Chris McKenzie says the...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • NZ Sign Language programmes receives $11 million boost
    Deaf Aotearoa are thrilled with Education minister Hekia Parata’s announcement this week that $11 million in funding will go towards a range of New Zealand Sign Language initiatives, including First Signs – a programme that involves sign language...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Abortion violates the Human Rights of Fathers
    Fathers1Right to Life is concerned at the glaring imbalance that exists in law, in regard to the rights of men to defend the lives of the children they have fathered. Fatherhood commences at conception. Children in the womb, just like...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Hundreds to join march against male violence in Auckland CBD
    Hundreds of supporters are expected to join the 'Take Back the Night' march through central Auckland streets tomorrow night in solidarity with making the streets safe for women and the rainbow community to walk without fear of male violence....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Classic example of need for Conservative policy
    The Conservative Party Justice Spokesman, Garth McVicar believes the sentencing of killer Aaron McDonald is a classic example of why an overhaul of the parole and sentencing system is required.”...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Greens & Labour Politicising Bullying in Schools
    Family First NZ says that both the Greens and Labour are wanting to politicise and sexualise school children under the guise of bullying programmes rather than deal with the school bullying issue as it should be dealt with....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Wellington National Is Not Our Future Rally 30/8/14
    Thousands of people will march and rally at National is not our Future events on Saturday. Auckland is the main rally centre with supportive actions in Wellington, Dunedin, Christchurch and Hamilton. In Wellington, marchers will assemble at Te Papa...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • EPA grants marine consent for OMV exploration well
    The Environmental Protection Authority has granted a marine consent to OMV New Zealand Ltd for its Whio-1 exploration well in the Taranaki Basin....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • First anniversary of the horrific chemical attacks on Syria
    Members of the Syrian Community and friends are commemorating the first anniversary of the horrific chemical attacks on Syria, in Aotea Square on Saturday 30 August 2014, between 11-3 pm. The Assad regimes chemical attacks on al Ghouta were responsible...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Anniversary of the NZ Occupation of German Samoa
    Today, 29th August 2014, marks the 100 years centenary of the occupation of Samoa by New Zealand forces at the request of the British empire, ending the German rule of Samoa. It is also the starting point for the special...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Submissions sought on mosquito repellent
    The Environmental Protection Authority is calling for submissions on a portable mosquito repellent for use outdoors. The repellent consists of a strip impregnated with metofluthrin, a substance from the pyrethroid family....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Spot the difference – the leaders debate
    I watched the Leaders' debate last night and was struck by the fact that John Key accepted all of David Cunliffe's basic assumptions. For example, he did not say that the government should not tell farmers who they could sell...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Colin Craig’s tax figures do not add up and are dishonest
    “Colin Craig’s tax plan is to have two rates of income tax: 0% up to $20,000 and 25% above that. This will leave a $6.4 billion hole in the budget even before the new spending proposed by the Conservatives. The...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Dirty Politics Impacts National Party Support
    Media Release – For Immediate Release Dirty Politics Impacts National Party Support Support for National has dropped by 4.3% to 50.8%, the latest stuff.co.nz / Ipsos political poll shows....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Labour’s environment policy welcomed
    The independent conservation organisation Forest & Bird says that overall the Labour Party’s newly released environment policy would go a long way towards protecting New Zealand’s natural heritage....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • National: Not our Future Marches across New Zealand
    Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government's track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin to oppose National's...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Tune in to tonight’s debate from 7pm
    The countdown is on! You can watch the first leader’s debate for 2014 tonight, 7pm, on TV One ....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Gamblefree Day 1 September
    It's Gamblefree Day this Monday 1 September, the national awareness day for problem gambling in New Zealand. While traditionally celebrated on the first day of September, many events and activities are held both before and after this day to raise...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Success through captioning should be a given as a Right
    Success through captioning should be a given as a Right per the Convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Alcohol Marketing Committee Questions Government’s Motives
    An Independent Expert Committee on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (IECAAS) has been formed out of concern amongst alcohol and public health researchers about the government’s Ministerial Forum on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (MFAAS)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • How Much Higher Can Auckland Prices Go?
    National's plan to liberalise the use of Kiwisaver funds and its proposal to raise ts cheap "Welcome Home" loan thresholds to help buyers purchase a new home has been welcomed by home building companies but attacked as a "welfare scheme...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • OPC submission period extended
    We have extended the submission period for the modified reassessment of a bee control affecting five organophosphate and carbamate insecticides (APP202142)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Vinay Deobhakta struck off roll of barristers and solicitors
    The New Zealand Lawyers and Conveyancers Disciplinary Tribunal has ordered former Tauranga lawyer Vinay Deobhakta to be struck off the roll of barristers and solicitors....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Major parties to front up for Climate Voter election debate
    New Zealand’s main political parties will take part in ‘The Great Climate Voter Debate’ on September 3....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Family violence… too big to be ignored
    As Annah Stretton gears up for her New Zealand Fashion Week show on Thursday she is utilizing her spotlight to help change the face of family violence in this country saying “the problem is far too big to ignore”....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Candidate’s SOS to northern Maori voters: Save our seats!
    (Extract from address by Rev Te Hira Paenga to Kura Hourua Maori Political Leaders hui, in Whangarei this evening)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Mary O’Neill to Stand for the Alliance in Napier
    The Alliance Party has confirmed Mary O’Neill as the Alliance candidate in the Napier Electorate for the 2014 election....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • TONIGHT [28/8/14]: The Great Political Comedy Debate
    It's a night for debating. You could stay home frowning at tonight's Leaders debate, or laugh it up with us at BATS!...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Cunliffe against personal responsibility over billboards
    The accusation by David Cunliffe that the Conservative Party is subscribing to a surveillance society by protecting its billboards via the use of motion sensor cameras reveals an anti-personal responsibility position by the about-to-be-retired Leader...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Groundbreaking health and climate conference
    The World Health Organization (WHO) is holding its first conference on climate change and health at its headquarters in Geneva this week, with New Zealand health experts in attendance....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Te Tai Tokerau Party
    Last night at the Leadership Academy of Company A debate Clinton Dearlove announced the creation of a new political party supported by Whanau and Hapu....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Significant fallout from Dirty Politics allegations
    Dirty politics ... costing National up to 3.8% of its pre-publication support Large numbers of New Zealanders are aware of and talking about the issues raised as a result of the publication of Nicky Hager’s book, Dirty Politics, according to...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Colin Craig is “deluded and dangerous” – Act
    “Colin Craig is proposing a radical transformation of our constitution. The Conservatives are proposing to overthrow of one hundred and fifty odd years of parliamentary democracy and replace it with binding referenda” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
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