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Written By: - Date published: 7:13 am, June 19th, 2012 - 104 comments
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The Greens have hired the equivalent of 8 full-time staff for two months to get their signature collecting as part of the Keep Our Assets Coalition rolling. It comes out of the fixed budget allocated to the party’s leaders’ office – not one additional cent from the taxpayer, just a choice: other parties spend millions of taxpayer money on polling*. It’s a good use of our money.

After all, National is spending $120m of our money on the middlemen for the sales process – bankers, advertising firms etc. And they’re looking at giving a $400m bonus to the few people who will end up being shareholders. That’s half a billion splurged just on selling assets that we don’t want to sell. The Greens are spending 0.015% of that amount on a counter-campaign and entirely within the rules because they’re not asking for votes, money, or membership.

It looks like the use of a professional core is really helping with the signature collections. The Greens have collected an amazing 20,000 signatures in the past week and now have 41,600. Just on Thursday, they were at 30,000. Of course, the Coalition would have gotten the signatures eventually anyway – only an idiot would claim that paid collectors have somehow unfairly created support for this cause – but the small professional team surrounded by thousands of volunteers, who can only commit limited time, appears to have really sped things up.

The rumour is that National is planning a million dollar ‘information campaign’ on the asset sales, using public money, to coincide with the coming referendum. They can’t spend the money directly on the referendum, so they’ll do an end run around the law. That won’t stop them throwing stones at the Greens, though.

*When David Farrar writes his inevitable piece whinging about the Greens’ legal use of their money, I hope he will reveal how much he has been paid in public money for polling services.

104 comments on “Good on the Greens”

  1. Tom Gould 1

    Interesting to know how much of the vast amount of ‘information’ gathered at taxpayers expense by the ‘advisors’ to government on the asset sales has made its way into Ministers’ offices, and into their spin in the media and the House? Giant $120m pot calling a tiny $76k kettle black? Moreover, some transparency around what their contracted PR advisors are up to would be useful?

  2. It’s a good use of our money.

    I question that. I think the Greens could put that money to much better use. This is most likely a futile campaign, with a referendum far from guaranteed, if it happens it’s not binding, and it will be too late to stop MOM progressing – there will debate on MOM in parliament today, it’s at the second reading state.

    • Zetetic 2.1

      Yeah, well it’s hardly surprising that you are saying that it isn’t a good use of money. But who gives a fuck? It’s like me saying that the whole united future leaders budget is a waste of money, especially as most of it goes on combs. When your hair god starts listening to his constituents, then you’ll have some credibility.

      • Pete George 2.1.1

        Yeah, well it’s hardly surprising that all you do is attack and divert.

        Here’s proof that he has listened, and acted, and succeeded:
        http://yournz.org/2012/06/18/mixed-ownership-model-bill-51-ownership-amendments/

        • mickysavage 2.1.1.1

          Woo hoo we are saved.  NZ Inc will retain control of our power company shares and they will not be sold to the rich and overseas interests who will appoint directors that will insist on hiking price rises so their wealthy shareholders become even more wealthy.

          And we can use the money to pay off debt and invest in projects that are bound to return more than the 18% the power companies generate.

          Oh, wait, I just read Petey’s blog …

          The Nats and the follicled one are fixing up a loophole that they no doubt put in deliberately.  They are making an appalling bill not quite as bad.

          Petey engaging in a bit of “gocha” politics too … 

          • Pete George 2.1.1.1.1

            I could come out strongly in support of David Shearer and you’d still find something quibble about. Did you get my email?

            • quartz 2.1.1.1.1.1

              You will come out strongly in favour of David Shearer. When your mate Dunne realises Labour’s got the government benches and he needs to suck up to team-red to keep his baubles. I look forward to seeing you change tack and to it being futile.

              • That was a touch of sarcasm directed at MS who seems reluctant to back his own party (and tries a hypocritical gotcha on gotcha) – I’ve been one of Shearer’s strongest supporters here for months, in a very sparse field of support for him.

            • mickysavage 2.1.1.1.1.2

              Did you get my email?

              Aye Pete

              Still mulling over it. I thought I would consider your comments in the area of superannuation. I am never opposed to a proper debate.

              But your comments on MOM deserved a bit of a serve. This is not a wonderous backdown that makes things right. This is National taking a step back because it can see how enraged the population is becoming with asset sales.

              • This is National taking a step back because it can see how enraged the population is becoming with asset sales.

                Yes, that’s probably right – but because UF took them to task on it.

                • John M

                  Glad to see you finally agree that the population is becoming enraged with the asset sales. Does this mean we can now look forward to UF continuing to ‘take them to task’ by either voting the legislation down (or at least forcing a halt to sales until the result of the referendum is known)?

                  • deuto

                    In light of this recent (9am) article on Stuff, any backdown by Dunne the Hair seems highly improbable.

                    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/7127734/Dunne-slams-asset-sales-amendment-push

                    United Future leader Peter Dunne is refusing to back a Greens’ amendment to keep partially sold state-owned assets open to public scrutiny, saying the party is being “mischievous”.

                    The Government’s legislation to enable the sale of up to 49 per cent of Mighty River Power, Genesis, Solid Energy and Meridian returns to Parliament today for a clause by clause debate.

                    State-owned assets are open to public scrutiny through the Official Information Act and the Ombudsman Act but under the Mixed Ownership Model Bill the partially sold enterprises would no longer be subject to those laws for commercial reasons which also exclude public companies.

                    Greens co-leader Russel Norman will put up an amendment to keep the state-owned assets subject such scrutiny.

                    However Dunne, who holds one of two crucial support votes for the Government, said today he wouldn’t be supporting the amendment.

                    “I’m not interested in supporting anything the Greens are putting forward on this.”

                    Dunne said he didn’t agree with the Greens’ opposition to asset sales.

                    “I think what they are being is mischievous. They are entitled to be but I’m certainly not support it. I don’t care what they are trying to do, my position is clear and I’m not budging from it.”

                    Norman said Dunne was being “incredibly unreasonable”.

                    “It’s not a very common sense position to oppose something solely on where it comes from rather than whether it is a good idea or not.”

                    Perhaps, Pete George would like to explain in view of his comments above that Dunne was holding National to account.

                    • @PeterDunneMP has just tweeted on this:

                      @NZStuffPolitics If the Greens expected their amendment to be taken seriously, they would have circulated it at least 24 hours in advance…

                      … and not via the news media on the morning of the debate

                      I think that’s a fair call.

                      Greens seem to work very well together within their party, but don’t seem to have figured out how to work inter-party yet.

                    • John M

                      You say Dunne’s made a “fair call”. Are you saying then, Pete, if the Greens had given Dunne 24 hours notice perhaps he would’ve supported the amendment? You and Dunne are becoming more and more unprincipled by the second. Next you’ll be blaming the Greens for the selling off of our assets because they didn’t give Dunne 24 hours notice of their amendment.

                      All of this is now getting beyond funny. If these are the responses Peter Dunne gives to legitimate concerns properly raised within our our democratic law-making process then all respect I had for him for acting as a moderating force on Key et al’s nasty agenda has gone and believe he now deserves nothing but complete and utter disdain for such nasty and unreasonable behaviour. He’s acting like a child in the playground.The sooner he is out of parliament the better

                      Another reason why we must now treat Dunne and Key et al with disdain is that’s it’s now clear the “partial” sales are not partial at all and the real agenda (that deep down we’ve known all along) is eventual total asset sales. Russel Norman’s amendment, far from being radical, merely ensures the assets Key and Dunne maintain the State will always keep a majority shareholding of are subject to the Official Information and Ombudsmen Acts. If these ‘sales’ will always only ever be “partial”, what’s the problem? Clearly the agenda is to eventually sell the lot off.

                      It is now time for the opposition parties to announce that if elected at the next election all shares in assets sold will be subject to a forced government re-buy and at the price this government sold them for, or better still, for less. Make it clear that this will be the policy so that all potential buyers will run a mile. Dunne and Key’s behaviour has now made this a necessary move.

                    • Would the Greens make a policy decision foisted on them via the media on the morning of the debate? Would they seriously expect any other party to? Get real.

                      If they were serious about getting support for an amendment they would have talked to other parties weeks ago.

                      Greens never intended it as anything but a media stunt, and Dunne called them on it.

                    • it’s now clear the “partial” sales are not partial at all and the real agenda (that deep down we’ve known all along) is eventual total asset sales.

                      That’s total bullshit dishonest scaremongering (and I’ve heard Russel Norman suggest that too).

                      Today it will be guaranteed that crown ownership is a minimum of 51%. That will only change if a future government gets sufficient support to change it – you know, how democracy works.

                    • Dr Terry

                      Pete, whatever the outcome, this will not be “a futile campaign”. There are many people ready and willing to stand up and be counted here, they might fail in the objective, but they will always maintain their integrity. Does that not matter to you? Good for the Greens, what a marvellous initiative!

                      I have no doubt that you will always need to have the last word, however.

                    • Jim in Tokyo

                      I’ve read an awful pile of brain searingly hypocritical and mealy mouthed pap from Dunne and his malfunctioning mouthpiece Pete George recently, but this has to be an all time low for the crusaders for ‘common sense’.

                      Do not forget that the sense of manufactured crisis around this is due entirely to National and UF’s decision to ram MOM through, having spat in the face of the politically engaged public by curtailing the select committee process by six weeks.

                      If Dunne had one last honest bone in his body he should have made his support conditional on adherence to democratic parliamentary process. For Dunne to ‘slam’ the Greens for catching him off guard with this amendment when the select committee wasn’t even due to report back until July 16 is hypocrisy of the highest order.

                    • McFlock

                      Today it will be guaranteed that crown ownership is a minimum of 51%. That will only change if a future government gets sufficient support to change it – you know, how democracy works.

                      49.5% being “sufficient support” – as long as you have one or two rotten boroughs to help ram it through.

                • bbfloyd

                  “because UF took them to task on it” …. now your just being an idiot little pete….. no-one with an iq above 70 is going to do more than either laugh at your ridiculous claims, or laugh at you personally for exposing yourself as a delusional attention seeker….

                  Either way, you are wasting space, and clogging up what could have been a useful, and informative discussion with self serving, ego stroking drivel….

                  I find it incredible that there are any left here who would waste time trying to have an intelligent, sincere debate with you….The party political agenda, which is so obviously your only reason to be here is getting rather tedious….

      • Yeah? I was a number of electorate committee meetings over the last term and not one person turned up and expressed concern about asset sales. Then all of a sudden there are dickheads rubbing themselves over the national war memorial in “protest”.

    • If futile means “showing this bunch to be totally doctrinaire and utterly irresponsible while failing to make them act sensibly” then I guess it is futile.

      A referendum is damn likely.  Relying on kiwis giving up because it is a fait accompli is a risky strategy.

      Agreed the referendum is not binding but so what?  It will just confirm how undemocratic this administration is, coiffured one included.

      So Petey do you have any qualms about MOM being smashed through under urgency?  Doncha think some more time and care should be allowed?

      • higherstandard 2.2.1

        When was the last time a NZ government took action in relation to a citizens initiated referendum ?

        • mickysavage 2.2.1.1

          Labour improved working conditions of firefighters considerably although the referendum occurred during the term of a National Government.
           
          Labour also tightened up bail laws and sentencing laws in response to the anti crime referendum although the red meat brigade did not notice a thing.

    • yeshe 2.3

      I, I, I, I ….. Pete .. check out other peoples’ posts for a while … not sure anyone uses ‘I’ quite as much you and it is boring, boring, boring. Please, just try writing with no ‘I’ and you might become easier to read especially when so many posts seem to become Pete George personal monopolies.

      Sorry, but it’s been too long coming …

      • bbfloyd 2.3.1

        Get used to it yeshe… Little pete isn;t going to stop blowing his own horn any time soon…..That tends to be the way with pathological obsessions like his…..

    • Dr Terry 2.4

      Pete, whatever the outcome, this will not be “a futile campaign”. There are many people ready and willing to stand up and be counted here, they might fail in the objective, but they will always maintain their integrity. Does that not matter to you? Good for the Greens, what a marvellous initiative!

      • Pete George 2.4.1

        I campaigned in the last election for better ways of allowing the people to stand up and be counted, I support that.

        But our petition/referendum system is deliberately flawed so that it is far too slow and ineffective.

        I’d rather see more effort put into coming up with a better, more responsive system for parliament/people interaction. If we can achieve something there we’ll be much better off in the medium term.

        • John M 2.4.1.1

          “But our petition/referendum system is deliberately flawed so that it is far too slow and ineffective.”

          Is this why you don’t support even arguing for holding off on the sales until the result of the referendum (as a compromise to Dunne pulling the pin on the legislation)? This is up there with Dunne rejecting Norman’s amendment because he wasn’t told about it in advance followed by you “fair call” analysis”, just wholesale rejection of something without any consideration of the merits. And you never did answer the question about what was so wrong with doing this: that there was nothing to lose by holding off because you could go ahead anyway if the referendum didn’t get the numbers; and everything to gain because with enough support against the sales government would be listening to what the people wanted. But no, you went back to hark on about whether Dunne said this, Dunne said that circular d8iscussion we’d finished months ago. Someone should alert Tom Scott to what you and Dunne are doing with this issue. He’d have material for months just on what’s transpired today.

          • Pete George 2.4.1.1.1

            Is this why you don’t support even arguing for holding off on the sales until the result of the referendum

            We don’t even know if there will be any referendum. It would be ridiculous to set as precedent of holding off any legislation pending the possibility of a referendum.

            Apart from making a nionsense of our democratic process it would encourage even more abuse of CIR as a means of massive filibustering.

            If we had a Labour/Green led government do you think they would put CGT legislation on hold for a couple of years to wait for the possibility there could be a referendum that could indicate majority opposition that they could ignore anyway?

            Do you think any government legislation should be put on hold if a referendum is promoted as a possibility by opposition parties?

            • Reality Bytes 2.4.1.1.1.1

              “Apart from making a nionsense of our democratic process it would encourage even more abuse of CIR as a means of massive filibustering.”

              Hi Pete,
              I was under the impression that Dunne is actually an MP, and as such he is entitled to choose to take a position on an issue in a way that he sees appropriate. If he chooses to take such a position and the government cannot find the numbers to avoid such action, then that’s their problem for failing to have the numbers and being in the minority.

    • John M 2.5

      Your position on the referendum and Dunne’s response to Norman’s amendment has lost UF the modicum of respect it may have had in the few disciples you thought you may have had left. If I were heading the anti-asset sales campaign I’d take UF’s position as a sign the gloves must come off. You and Dunne are even more despicable than Key, if that’s at all possible, because none of you are prepared to listen to what people want. For that you deserve nothing but vitriol and disdain.

      • Pete George 2.5.1

        John, your abusive approach doesn’t earn your own campaign any respect, in fact the reverse.

        Politics involves working with others, not haranguing them into doing what you want. You seem to not understand that it’s not just you that politicians have to listen to and who’s opinions need to be taken into account.

        • freedom 2.5.1.1

          So you must be really upset with Peter Dunne stomping on Democracy today ?
          “I’m not interested in supporting anything the Greens are putting forward on this.” “

        • Draco T Bastard 2.5.1.2

          Strange, I didn’t see any sign of abuse in John M’s reply to you. Your and UF’s response to this really is deserving of contempt.

        • John M 2.5.1.3

          “You seem to not understand that it’s not just you that politicians have to listen to and who’s opinions need to be taken into account.”

          Tell that to your mate Dunne. Look at his response to Russel Norman’s amendment. He’s openly saying he’s not prepared to listen to anyone who disagrees with him. You are as well. You’re both hypocrites of the most despicable kind.

          • Pete George 2.5.1.3.1

            I’ve never said I won’t listen to anyone who disagrees with me. I do more listening than most across various blogs and other social media. Try me – what do you want me to listen to? If you can keep it reasonable and non-abusive I’ll give you a good hearing.

            • fender 2.5.1.3.1.1

              PG your abuse meter might need recalibrating cos there wasn’t any, but don’t let that stop you from complaining on another blog about the way you get treated here.

              When you don’t find support for your view you play this abuse card, do you really think you are cut out for the beehive? Maybe you could become a priest or join Colin Craig, but he might use “blimin heck’ from time to time so cover your ears.

            • John M 2.5.1.3.1.2

              Have a look at the questions asked above at 5.49pm.

            • John M 2.5.1.3.1.3

              Yes, just as I thought.

    • Georgecom 2.6

      Pete

      The petition is far from futile.
      I think you will find a referendum does go ahead.
      No, its not binding but the message is strong.
      Some of the assets may be sold off but we may be able to save some and then have to start undoing the damage National have wrought.

      Mind you, easy way to stop the legislation, go and tell you make Peter to vote against it.

      Rob

    • Bob 2.7

      Agree Pete, is it a good use of their money, they could have used that money on funding support for their own MP http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10785474 but instead they use it on trying to push a referendum on the MOM when we had one in November!

      Also, lets hope those “equivalent of 8 full-time staff for two months” are being paid minimum wage (wouldn’t that be ironic after they say its not a livable wage), because if they pay them much more they will be in breach of the Citizens Initiated Referendum Act “Under the citizens initiated referendum act, promoters are only allowed to spend $50,000 on collecting the signatures and a further $50,000 on promoting a vote in favour of their cause.”.

  3. Good on the Greens – yeah right
    Like I’ve said you get what you vote for, and idiot selfish humans will always vote for idiot selfish leaders, the Greeds are the green wash, and we have been hung out to dry.
    How the hell is Kiwi Saver going to make a pay out to that example Norman used during the elections? If the Kiwi Saver accounts do not make a profit? To do so they must invest in companies that actually make a profit, and with nearly every other company globally going tits up, maybe NZ co ltd is the only thing left to invest in? Though saying that I know NZ co ltd is going down just like every other country.
    Can just see Norman in a loin cloth trying to stop his tribe from selling their Moi, “Russel they can’t take it away we have run out of trees”

    • Enough is Enough 3.1

      Oh Robert your misery is depressing. You are like that Eeyore from Winney-the-Pooh.

      Don’t be so afraid of the future. For every challlenge, no matter how big, there is a solution. We on the left aren’t burying our heads, rather we are searching for solutions. Don’t arrogantly think we are all stupid and dont understand the ways of the world. We are all just a lot more confident in the lefts way to solve problems.

      • Robert Atack 3.1.1

        “We are all just a lot more confident in the lefts way to solve problems.” Which means you haven’t a clue.
        If you think you have a solution, then you are part of the problem.

        George Carlin – fuck hope
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W9Cs6KPTus

        George Carlin – garbage in garbage out.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk

        George Carlin – Saving the Planet
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw

        And a dose of reality for ya. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOq2A_SGTYA Guy is being bought out to NZ this week to be the keynote speaker School Executive Officers conference in Wellington on the 4th July. So just maybe he has a clue?

        • Draco T Bastard 3.1.1.1

          George Carlin was a great guy but only a comedian. He highlighted some of the problems of modern society but taking him as the prophet for Doom and Gloom probably isn’t the best option.

          Yes, there are solutions that we, as a small country at the bottom of the world, can put in place that will maintain a technological society. Yes, the present political parties, including the Greens, aren’t going anywhere near them but that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.

          • Robert Atack 3.1.1.1.1

            a technological society …………. yeah
            Technology is just a word to describe energy use.
            We are so connected to the rest of the world it would be imposable to maintain any sort of ‘society’ that is dependent on ‘the grid’.
            So what about Guy McPherson? see last link.
            We have run out of time and space to suggest/fight for so called ‘solutions’. The world is not going to get over peak oil, as the immediate threat, and as Guy says Climate Change isn’t looking very good for us.
            Peak oil, and the result of all the over exploitation, will take out about 5 billion people, and all the joys of + 4 5 6 ? degrees will see to the rest of us.
            George Carlin did talk some utter crap I know, but on politics the environmental, and his analysis of people he was bang on.
            Humans are basically selfish crap, and we are literally killing our offspring’s future in this orgy of growth at all costs, which the green party back … ie Kiwi Saver. (know you are not pro green, just like to keep the oddity of KS live)
            And I wanted to show EE that I did have a funny side )

  4. freedom 4

    The referendum process is certainly not being helped by the Avaaz petition which has now been re-edited to exclude any and all references to the Petition being presented to the PM. Apart from the highly questionable behaviour of altering the wording of a petition after it has been published and signed by 25,000+ people, this petition is now just gathering names, trying to achieve what exactly?

    Shifting the target number from 25,000 to 30,000 was sneaky, this recent activity breaches the basic rules of behaviour regarding Petitons, regardless of the method or the subject in question.

    here is the text today
    http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Oppose_NZ_Asset_Sales/?tta

    here is the text yesterday
    http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/650/avaazpetitiontext.png

    I have made numerous approaches to Avaaz but only receive form letter automaton responses.

    • yeshe 4.1

      please, keep trying to reach Avaaz. They do so much good, it will be sad that this duplicitous piece of work will cause them permanent harm … or maybe that is a second target also of the elusive and possibly illusive other ‘P. George’ …

    • deuto 4.2

      freedom, I appreciate your concerns re this petition and possible confusion that it is the referendum itself, but as the saying goes “there are more than one way to skin a cat” – and that from an animal lover with many years active in SPCAs etc. However, I reserve judgement on the effectiveness of the online petition until it is presented to Key as stated in the petition – or not presented.

      Re your links, I would be interested to know where your second one came from (the one you state was the site yesterday). I have been watching the site several times a day since about Thursday last week and have seen no changes to the wording since Thursday – other than the suggestion that lets try for 30,000 which was added I think on Friday or Saturday. In other words, from my viewing, it has not changed from the wording in your first link since that time. A check just a minute ago, it was the same other than the count is now up to 25,700.

      PS – I fully support what the Greens are doing including them using their parliamentary funding to do so.

      • freedom 4.2.1

        Yes i know it all looks the same but look more closely

        The second image is a cropped screengrab i took from the site just yesterday. You will notice the last line states “If 25,000 of us sign it will be delivered to john Key with a giant “Aotearoa, not for Sale” price tag!”

        now,
        if you return to the current page on the Avaaz site that quoted line is mysteriously absent. As this presentation to the PM was the original stated goal of the petition, what is the current function of this petition and why was the stated goal removed?

        • deuto 4.2.1.1

          Still there in the last paragraph

          We only have days left to tell our politicians to stop the sell out. Sign the petition now and share it widely. If 25,000 of us sign it will be delivered to John Key with a giant “Aotearoa: Not For Sale” price tag!

          • freedom 4.2.1.1.1

            http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/294/avaaz1020am19062012.png
            i just reloaded the address from a bookmark, refreshed the address bar, took a screengrab, cropped out my second monitor but left the address bar in the image and have posted it as it appears to me, there is no reference to the quoted line

            as i said the other day there is something strange going on here

            • yeshe 4.2.1.1.1.1

              freedom, deuto …. there is avaaz facebook page .. just had a quick look and they do seem to be responding quickly in the medium .. might be worth trying to contact them that way .. it is their credibility on the line. facebook is a foreign land to me .. sorry, so can’t offer to help but you two have all the page grabs etc … good luck.

              http://www.facebook.com/Avaaz

              • freedom

                thanks for the suggestion . . . done.

                • freedom

                  have posted twice to the Fb page, post has twice been removed from the Fb page, but no, nothing strange going on here

                  guess we just wait to see the presentation to the Pm then .. .. ..

                  • yeshe

                    amazing, really …. let’s see what arises next … it sure stinks …

                    • freedom

                      and in the process i get painted to look like like a half-baked paranoid nutjob, perhaps i can get a job in Cabinet?

            • deuto 4.2.1.1.1.2

              Hi freedom, I am no computer whiz. I put the online petition onto my Favorites bar and check it that way, but also refresh each time which seems to work for me with other sites on the bar. But actually, I am not interested in a fight on this – much more important to stop this dastardly MOM legislation and the sale of strategic taxpayer-owned assets (partial of otherwise) and by whatever means. Although a born cynic, I remain hopeful that this online petition will be delivered to Key et al today or in the next few days, but am doubtful that it will make any difference in the short term, sigh.

  5. DH 5

    I agree, Greens are going great. I re-watched the ‘someone else’s country’ doco a while back & had forgotten how vociferous the opposition to asset sales was back then. 93% were against selling forestry and they still sold it. It got nowhere because no political party backed the protests in any meaningful manner. Greens are doing an outstanding job on our behalf here, getting an economics firm to play the Nats at their own game was a masterstroke. Compare them with Labour who are all mouth & trousers.

  6. Anne 6

    It was reported at my electorate meeting last night that Labour has reached 30,000 signatures thus far.

    So, its good on Labour too.

    Labour is doing their thing at the local flea markets, and I believe they are targeting Supermarkets too. It must be a lucrative source.

  7. Kevin 7

    Gathering signatures on a petition for a referendum is in my view a waste of time and resources. The Greens can well afford to squander money on this project through their parliamentary funding but in the final analysis the outcome will be a non binding referendum.
    If you want to throw money at the privatisation of public assets then your money would be more effectively used in buying shares in said assets. Share holders get voting rights in these companies and are kept well informed of strategy therefore it is more prudent to participate than to oppose.

    • Kotahi Tane Huna 7.1

      Gee, Kevin, that sounds like the weasel justifications of a quisling.

    • Dr Terry 7.2

      Kevin, all I can take from this is “buy assets and sell your integrity”. I hope I have got you wrong.

      • Kevin 7.2.1

        @Dr Terry, @Kotahi
        I know my comment sounds cynical, but what else can you do? The petiton and referendum, despite what people say, won’t get any traction and will be a waste of time.

        • Kotahi Tane Huna 7.2.1.1

          If you feel the need to justify your behaviour to yourself, keep going, but don’t kid yourself that weasel words carry weight for anyone else.

        • Draco T Bastard 7.2.1.2

          The only thing that most people can do is stop the selling of their assets. Buying them from themselves isn’t an option because 1) doing so is really stupid and 2) they don’t have any money.

        • fatty 7.2.1.3

          “won’t get any traction and will be a waste of time.”

          I kinda have the same opinion…I think the assets were as good as gone as soon as they were elected…but, Key is in on popularity, and popularity only. This referendum is the last thing he wants. The signatures will not stop the sales, but I think if it gets to a referendum, then Key will jump ship earlier and NACT will disintegrate.
          Also that nasty disease that has been infecting ‘common sense’ for years will finally be gone.
          See this referendum as an end to NACT and the end of Dunne’s pathetic excuse of a political life.
          That’s why meat george is having a heart attack

  8. Tangled up in blue 8

    Probably already mentioned but even if the referendum comes after the fact it is still a powerful tool to further saturate public consciousness regarding National’s shoddy economics and arrogant neglect of what NZ wants.

    • The petition/referendum system – the people’s only non-election option – has been taken from the people by parties using it as an electioneering tool. Funded by the people, being cynically used again.

      • freedom 8.1.1

        In what Universe does following due process as laid out by the Referendum protocols become cynical electioneering? Is it the same Universe where flip-flopping your values depending on who has the chequebook is called a political career?

        • Pete George 8.1.1.1

          The referendum system was originally designed as a far from perfect way of the people telling politicians what they wanted.

          It now seems to be another means by which parties can ue public funds to seek support – the Greens are even employing people to sign their petition. That’s hardly a system for the people to speak to politicians.

          I think we need a practical system designed by the people, for the people, and kept for the people.

          • McFlock 8.1.1.1.1

            “the Greens are even employing people to sign their petition”
                 
            No they’re not. And the system for people to speak to the politicians is the referendum itself – the petition is speaking to Elections NZ. 

          • freedom 8.1.1.1.2

            first up, the Greens are employing people to collect signatures, not sign the petition.

            seco…. actually nothing else you mentioned is worth responding to

            • Pete George 8.1.1.1.2.1

              first up – you’re right, I worded that badly (unintentionally) so was wrong.

              second – having a system of people telling politicians what to do, designed by politicians, is a recipe for failure and abuse by politicians. Or do you disagree?

              • freedom

                The system is not the problem. The problem is the systemic failure of those who are handsomely paid to manage it, to do so honestly and without prejudicial manipulation.

                • Kotahi Tane Huna

                  Disagree: the system is designed to compensate for greedy stupid Tories etc (cf: the select committee process) but no system can fully compensate for human behaviour.

                  • freedom

                    - The SC process was/is perverted by a predetermined human decision not by any inherent fault within the system itself. Certainly there are tweaks that could be applied but constant tweaking of systems is what creates so many of the problems in the first place. Perhaps if the SC process had a fixed rule of deliberation time relating to the number of submissions then perhaps the manipulative practices of parliamentarians would be less viable?

                    I do see your overall point (and am generally of a similar view) but a political system is like a car, without a safe and judicious driver, it is at best inert at worst it is lethal to those who encounter it. The car is hardly ever the problem.

                    • Draco T Bastard

                      Perhaps if the SC process had a fixed rule of deliberation time relating to the number of submissions then perhaps the manipulative practices of parliamentarians would be less viable?

                      That would be a good idea and I’d also like a binding referendum at the end of the select committee process that lets NZ tell the politicians if they support the new law or not.

                      Time for more democracy.

              • tracey

                do you mean like undermining democracy by making deals to not stand an opposing mp or by nudge nudge wink wink vote for me candidates?

      • John M 8.1.2

        The only way you could be right is if political parties were forcing people to sign the referendum against their will. Contrary to concerns that the will of the people was not reflected in the election result, you say the election result did represent the will of the people. So if the refendum comes back overwhelmingly against asset sales what would you say? Would you say that the Greens have manipulated the system to suit their own political agenda and that as a result people still really do support asset sales? Or would you say (even if they have changed their minds since the election) that the people have spoken?

        • Pete George 8.1.2.1

          Or would you say (even if they have changed their minds since the election) that the people have spoken?

          No, I wouldn’t say “the people” have spoken. Some people have spoken. Some have followed. And we don’t really know what many think.

          We know that many people prefer asset sales didn’t go ahead. But there’s a lot we don’t know. We don’t know how many think they should be able to proceed even though they prefer they didn’t. We don’t know how many are against “asset sales” but don’t mind MOM.

          What is your understanding of what “the people” think?

          • Draco T Bastard 8.1.2.1.1

            You really are becoming more of a weasel every day.

            • McFlock 8.1.2.1.1.1

              nah – pete just doesn’t like democracy because it constantly reminds him that (to quote the Holy Ones) he’s not the Messiah, he’s just a very naughty boy.

              • Te Reo Putake

                Not to mention his rejection issues.
                 
                29,157. The number of ungrateful North Dunedinites who didn’t vote for their better, Pete ‘Porkies’ George. 176. The mugs who did take him seriously. Though less seriously than the candidate the election before him, because, despite his Teflon grade waffling, Petey actually cost United Future votes. Democracy? Bah!

  9. captain hook 9

    so what do the greens have to say about the 40% rise in use of the earths resources since the last earth summit in 1992.
    how long till everything is exhausted?

    • Draco T Bastard 9.1

      how long till everything is exhausted?

      Not long but the primary resource, oil, has already peaked which means that we won’t be able to get to the other resources soon anyway.

  10. BLiP 10

    .

    Heh!

    The Wellington offices of merchant banker Goldman Sachs will be the focus of protest activity on Tuesday by People’s Power Ohariu in its campaign against the privatisation of the four Government owned energy companies.

    The John Key Government has budgetted $120 million to be allocated to Goldman Sachs and other companies assisting the Government’s asset sales programme including advertising, public relations and call centre companies.

    At midday on Tuesday, “John Key”, “Bill English” and their minders will be leaving Parliament Buildings with wheelbarrows full of money heading up Lambton Quay to deliver $120 million to the offices of Goldman Sachs in the BNZ building at 1 Willis Street . . .

    http://wellington.scoop.co.nz/?p=45787

  11. Jenny 11

    Good on the Greens

    The Greens have hired the equivalent of 8 full-time staff for two months to get their signature collecting as part of the Keep Our Assets Coalition rolling. It comes out of the fixed budget allocated to the party’s leaders’ office – not one additional cent from the taxpayer, just a choice: other parties spend millions of taxpayer money on polling*. It’s a good use of our money.

    EDDIE

    Good on you Eddie (for mentioning it). Now, if only the Lazy party would take up this initiative too, or even outdo it. Maybe all their affiliated unions could help as well. Maybe if the Lazy Party started doing things like this, then their vote would not continue to be cannibalised by the Greens.

    • Te Reo Putake 11.1

      Jenny, you fucken numpty, the Labour Party and most unions, affiliated or not, are totally behind this petition. The LP is working side by side with the Greens and Grey Power to get the numbers needed. Did you not spot the comment above that the LP has collected 30,000 signatures so far? 30,000! What the fuck have you done, apart from run the campaign down from a position of smug sectarian ignorance?

      • Jenny 11.1.1

        The Greens have collected an amazing 20,000 signatures in the past week and now have 41,600. Just on Thursday, they were at 30,000.

        EDDIE

        And this is a much smaller party.

        I might ask you, Mr Putake, How many full time staffers has the Lazy party put on this campaign?

        Sixteen?

        Eight?

        One?

        None?

        • Te Reo Putake 11.1.1.1

          The Labour Party’s campaign is member driven, but with huge contributions from MP’s and staff. Just like the Greens. That means hundreds of volunteer activists getting out there and actually signing people up. That’s what Grey Power are doing too. And the unions. What’s the problem, Jenny? Don’t you like mass movements any more?
           
          And, of course, had it been the LP paying part-timers to collect signatures, you’d be bagging them for selling out or some such other Spartist rubbish. Why don’t you just go get some signatures? It’s not a competition, its the left working together with some great allies in Grey Power and plenty of non affiliated volunteers, too. We need every bit of help we can get to make it happen, not pointless sniping at the people who are doing the hard yards.
           

          • Pete George 11.1.1.1.1

            We need every bit of help we can get to make it happen, not pointless sniping at the people who are doing the hard yards.

            An interesting comment. I agree with the sentiment, pointless sniping is, well, kinda pointless. Isn’t it.

            • Te Reo Putake 11.1.1.1.1.1

              No, pal. You’re pointless. You’ve never made a point in your life. Lies, on the hand …

        • Anne 11.1.1.2

          Don’t be so childish Jenny. It’s not a kids competition to see who can get the most signatures. It’s a combined effort on the part of a number of organisations to gather enough signatures for a referendum on Asset Sales in case you have forgotten.

          My understanding is that Labour had collected 30,000 signatures up to Wed./Thurs. of last week. The Greens and Labour are to be congratulated on their magnificent efforts in such a short space of time.

  12. freedom 12

    If you know where there are twenty people, that is 20 potential signatures and reason enough to print a page off and carry it with you during your day http://keepourassets.org.nz/

  13. Georgecom 13

    Anyone have a dirt file on Peter Dunne that can suddenly get produced?

    July 14 is a proposed nationwide day of action for the anti asset sale movement.

    Some of us are discussing maybe a city wide blitz on that day. Take the petition out to malls, carparks, public parks etc and gather as many signatures as possible. 10 or more teams, 3 people per team, 50 signatures per person, 1500 signatures very conservatively.

    • Carol 13.1

      Sounds good. Can confirmation of the day of action be as much in advance as possible, please, so I can book a day off work?

  14. tc 14

    And now the double dippers themselves are crying over this use of funds, what a bunch of hypocrytical shysters who just can’t stand the inconvenience of democratic process.

    Our only saviour is from an extremely unlikely MP and UF so prepare for the great sellout with those patsy suck ups.

  15. Dave 15

    Hey John Maynard (John M),

    You are allowed to use your real name, you know….

    • Te Reo Putake 15.1

      Dave, guessing at people’s identities is not cool. Delete it while you’ve still got time.

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    I’m really privileged to take on the responsibility of the water portfolio. Eugenie Sage has done excellent work in this area in the last term of parliament and provided a great platform for further work. Last Parliament my bill to...
    Greens | 21-10
  • A mighty totara has fallen across the Tasman
    The New Zealand Labour Party expresses deep sadness at the death of former Australian prime minister Gough Whitlam, aged 98. “Today a great totara has fallen across the Tasman,” Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says....
    Labour | 21-10
  • Note to National: Must deliver on child poverty
    John Key and his Government will be held to its promise to make child poverty a priority, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “In its priority-setting speech today the Government stated child poverty would be a major focus for...
    Labour | 21-10
  • New Analysis show Government cut tertiary education funding
    New analysis done by the Green Party today shows the Government has made cuts to funding of tertiary education since 2008.Figures compiled by the Parliamentary Library show that between 2009 and 2015 Government funding to Tertiary Institutions dropped by 4...
    Greens | 21-10
  • Students doing it tough as fees rise again
    The Government is making it increasingly difficult for Kiwis to gain tertiary education as fees continue to rise and access to student support becomes even more restricted, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Steven Joyce is shutting a generation...
    Labour | 20-10
  • Key misled New Zealand on Iraq deployment
      John Key was misleading New Zealanders prior to the election when he ruled out New Zealand special forces being deployed to Iraq, says Labour Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff.  “Post-election he has cynically disregarded that by saying that deployment of...
    Labour | 20-10
  • Swearing about swearing the oath
    Yesterday, I was swearing. Swearing the Parliamentary oath, that is. But, under my breath, I was also quietly swearing about the archaic, colonial form of that oath and its inappropriateness for today’s Aotearoa New Zealand. To be permitted to speak...
    Greens | 20-10
  • Kevin Hague speaks in the 2014 Address and Reply debate
    Thank you very much, Mr Deputy Speaker, and, like others, can I begin my contribution by congratulating you and the others in the Speaker's team: the Rt Hon David Carter, Lindsay Tisch, and the Hon Trevor Mallard. I also want...
    Greens | 20-10
  • Damning report on Ruataniwha dam numbers
    When I presented my submission to the Board of Inquiry on the Tukituki Catchment Proposal I compared the proposed 83 metre high Ruataniwha dam with the Clyde Dam and noted the risk of cost blowouts in the construction process.  The...
    Greens | 20-10
  • Church congratulated on child poverty stand
    The efforts by the bishops of the Anglican Church to ensure that the issue of child poverty is not forgotten is a call to all New Zealanders to take action, says Labour’s Interfaith-Dialogue Spokesperson, Su’a William Sio.   “I think...
    Labour | 19-10
  • Labour names Review Team
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has appointed Bryan Gould as Convenor of its post-General Election Review.  He will be joined on the Review Team by Hon Margaret Wilson, Stacey Morrison and Brian Corban (see further biographical details here). The Review Team...
    Labour | 19-10
  • Labour backs urban development plans
    Auckland Council’s plan to set up an urban development agency is to be applauded and central government should get behind it to make it a success, Labour’s Auckland Issues spokesperson Phil Twyford says. Auckland Council CEO Stephen Town has indicated plans...
    Labour | 18-10
  • New Zealand can be rightly proud of seat on Security Council
    Gaining a seat on the United Nation’s Security Council shows the sort of standing that New Zealand has in the world and the quality of the long campaign that we ran over nearly a decade, says Foreign Affairs spokesperson David...
    Labour | 16-10
  • NZ has opportunity on UN Security Council
    New Zealand has an opportunity to make a major contribution to the strengthening of international law and institutional capacity through its upcoming two-year tenure on the United Nations Security Council, Green Party spokesperson on global affairs, Dr Kennedy Graham said...
    Greens | 16-10
  • MPI still dragging the chain over causes of food bug
    The Ministry of Primary Industries’ release of Environmental Science and Research’s initial reports regarding the sources of a nasty stomach bug will be little comfort to the 127 people affected by it, Labour’s Food Safety spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “This...
    Labour | 16-10
  • Treasury officials should try working without food
    The Green Party is challenging Treasury officials to work for a week without eating properly, in light of their advice to Government that a food in schools programme is not needed."Treasury's advice was that providing food for children in schools...
    Greens | 15-10
  • Councils need to better protect our drinking water
    Environment Canterbury (ECan) is proposing several variations to its regional land and water plan that will allow for increased nutrient and other pollution from irrigation and intensive agriculture on the Canterbury Plains. Commissioners are hearing submissions on Variation 1 to...
    Greens | 15-10
  • National needs to commit to making NZ workers safe
    The National Government must do more to help make New Zealand workplaces a safer place to work in, Green Party industrial relations spokesperson Denise Roche said today.Data released by Statistics New Zealand today showed that workers in the fishing and...
    Greens | 15-10
  • Key commits to deployment before consultation or analysis
    John Key’s offer to consult Opposition parties on whether to deploy New Zealand forces against ISIS looks increasingly like a PR exercise only, says Labour’s Defence spokesperson, Phil Goff. “The presence of New Zealand’s Chief of Defence Force at a...
    Labour | 15-10
  • National must end ideological opposition to raising income
    If John Key is serious about tackling child poverty he must approach it with an open mind, and overcome his ideological block to raising incomes as a solution, the Green Party said today.Papers released to Radio New Zealand today show...
    Greens | 14-10
  • Pentagon links climate change and terrorism
    Yesterday the Pentagon launched a plan to deal with a threat that “poses immediate risks to national security”; one that “will affect the Department of Defense’s ability to defend the nation”. It wasn’t referring to Ebola or ISIS. It was...
    Greens | 14-10
  • Four Nominees for Labour’s Leadership
    As at 5pm today four valid nominations had been received for the position of Labour Leader, as follows: Andrew Little(nominated by Poto Williams and Iain Lees-Galloway) Nanaia Mahuta(nominated by Louisa Wall and Su’a William Sio) David Parker(nominated by Damien O’Connor...
    Labour | 14-10
  • Green Party calls for consultation over terrorism law changes
    The Green Party has today written to the Prime Minister asking him to engage in wider consultation prior to changing any laws as a result of the recently announced terrorism law reviews, said the Green Party today. In a letter...
    Greens | 14-10
  • MPI must name product and supermarket chain
    The Ministry of Primary Industries must name the product responsible for severe gastroenteritis affecting people around the country, and the supermarket chain distributing it, Labour’s Food Safety spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “The Ministry seems to be more concerned about protecting...
    Labour | 13-10
  • John Key dishonest about reasons for wanting to change terrorism law
    John Key is misleading the public to push through terrorism law changes under urgency, the Green Party said today. On Sunday, John Key stated that it is not illegal for someone to fight overseas for a terrorist group, such as...
    Greens | 12-10
  • Law changes shaping up to be worse than first thought
    The Prime Minister needs to be up front about exactly what changes he is planning to make to the Employment Relations  Amendment Bill, Labour's spokesperson on Labour Issues Andrew Little says.Interviewed on Q&A yesterday John Key said he did not...
    Labour | 12-10
  • Rapists, not Tinder, the threat to women
    Blame for rape and sexual assault should only ever be laid at the door of the perpetrator, not dating services or the actions of women themselves, Labour’s Associate Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. “Tinder is not the problem and women...
    Labour | 09-10
  • Safer Journeys For People Who Cycle
    You have a rare opportunity to tell the people who are making the decisions on cycling how to make it better. The Cycling Safety Panel is seeking feedback on their draft recommendations for improving the safety of cycling in New...
    Greens | 08-10
  • Subsidising more pollution will undermine water clean-up plan at Te Waihora...
    In 2010, NIWA found Canterbury’s Te Waihora/Lake Ellesmere had the worst nutrient status of 140 lakes around New Zealand that it measured. In 2011, the National Government committed to spending $15 million across the country through the Fresh Start for...
    Greens | 08-10
  • Adding value not herbicides
    The HT swedes, and other brassicas, might seem like a good idea to farmers struggling against weeds but like the GE road, is this the path we want our agriculture to be treading? The Federated Farmers President, Dr William Rolleston...
    Greens | 07-10
  • ‘Blame the Planner’ bizarre approach to child poverty
    The National Government is stooping to a bizarre new low in blaming "planning processes" for poverty and inequality, after spending six years doing nothing about either the housing market or child poverty, the Green Party said today. Finance Minister Bill...
    Greens | 07-10
  • Media Advisory
    MANA Leader, Hone Harawira will not be available to speak with media today regarding his release “Recount Just One Step To restoring Credibility”. He is however available for media comment tomorrow, Tuesday the 8th of October, all media arrangements are...
    Mana | 07-10
  • RECOUNT JUST ONE STEP TO RESTORING CREDIBILITY
    “I have applied for a judicial recount of the votes in the Tai Tokerau election because it is one step in trying to restore credibility to the electoral process in the north, and, I suspect, in all other Maori electorates...
    Mana | 07-10
  • MANA SEEKS TAI TOKERAU RECOUNT
    The MANA Movement is supporting Leader Hone Harawira’s application for a judicial re-count in the Te Tai Tokerau electorate for the 2014 general election. President Lisa McNab says there are a number of serious issues of concern regarding the ability...
    Mana | 07-10
  • Ideological Blitzkrieg – Privatization of state housing, more charter sch...
    Pundits in pundit land will tell you that this Government is boring, that Key is the great pragmatist and that it is his ability to create elegant solutions that keeps him the firm favourite in many Kiwi eyes. This ability...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • Hegemony rules but resistance is fertile
    The Prime Minister is a puppet. Not just our current Prime Minister, but given the forces of multinational globalisation, the role of any head of state, is less as independent actor, and more as a puppet of international trends and...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • An open Letter to Sir Bob Jones: demanding a ‘liveable wage’ is not “...
    How out of touch with reality is Sir Bob Jones? You know, that white dude who invested in privatised SOEs after the selling off of our assets in the eighties and made a ludicrous and disgusting amount of money and is...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • My insecurity about the Security Council
    As I write this (on 24 October) it is international UN Day. Of course, you all knew that already, right? Well, the day celebrates the entry into force of the UN Charter in 1945. With the ratification of this founding...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Back in That House
    Parliament opened this week and I still find it a very odd place. Most of the people are reasonably courteous and friendly, but the rituals are archaic and the rules around issues like the swearing in oath are oppressive and...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Marae Investigates No More
    TVNZ yesterday announced the closure of their Māori and Pacific programmes department. That means they’ve chosen to stop making Fresh, Tagata Pasifika, Waka Huia and Marae Investigates to let independent producers get their hands on these lucrative contracts. This is...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • BLOGWATCH: An Un-Civil War in Labour, eh?
    Earlier today, my attention was directed to an entry that’s just recently appeared on the Slightly Left of Centre blog. It purports to contain the ‘inside word’ from a highly placed NZF source – which is funny, because I’m pretty sure...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Santanomics 101
    Santanomics could mean a number of things. It could be the study and practice of giving. Or it could mean the study and practice of rampant end-of-year commercialism. However, for me today it is the economics of erectingAuckland’s giant Santa...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • SkyCity boss misleads public over workers lost shifts
    SkyCity CEO Nigel Morrison has defended the employment practices at his company in an “Opinion” piece entitled “Human Capital key to corporate success” in the NZ Herald on Thursday. A number of his claims are misleading, contain only partial truths...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Review: Perfect Place
    I went to a Perfect Place on Tuesday night, and what a delight it was. The marshmallows sweetly (and forcefully) handed out pre-show, set the tone for the next hour. Walking up the stairs at The Basement was a complete...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • 5AA Australia – NZ on UN Security Council + Dirty Politics Lingers On
    5AA Australia: Selwyn Manning and Peter Godfrey deliver their weekly bulletin Across The Ditch. General round up of over night talkback issues: Thongs, Jandals and flip-flops… ISSUE 1: New Zealand has been successful in its campaign to become a non...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • When I mean me, I mean my office & when I call whaleoil I mean not as m...
    This. Is. Ludicrous. Green Party co-leader Russel Norman put the first of what are likely to be many questions about Mr Key’s relationship with Slater, asking him how many times he had phoned or texted the blogger since 2008. “None...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • A brief word on describing the Government as ‘boring and bland’
    The narrative being sown is that this Government will be a boring and bland third term. Boring and bland. Since the election, Key has announced he is privatising 30% of state houses without reinvesting any of that money back into housing society’s most...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • More Latté Than Lager: Reflections on Grant Robertson’s Campaign Launch.
    BIKERS? SERIOUSLY! Had Grant Robertson’s campaign launch been organised by Phil Goff? Was this a pitch for the votes of what few Waitakere Men remain in the Labour Party? Was I even at the right place? Well, yes, I was....
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • About Curwen Ares Rolinson
    Curwen Ares Rolinson – Curwen Ares Rolinson is a firebrand young nationalist presently engaged in acts of political resistance deep behind enemy lines amidst the leafy boughs of Epsom. He is affiliated with the New Zealand First Party; although his...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kelly Ellis
    Kelly Ellis.Kelly Ellis – As a child, Kelly Ellis didn’t so much fall into the cracks, but willfully wriggled her way into them. Ejected from Onslow College – a big job in the 70s – Kelly worked in car factories,...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kate Davis
    Kate Davis.Kate Davis – Having completed her BA in English and Politics, Kate is now starting her MA. Kate works as a volunteer advocate at Auckland Action Against Poverty and previously worked for the New Zealand Prostitutes Collective. Kate writes...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Parker does a Shearer – oh for a Labour Leader who can challenge msm fals...
    Sigh. It seems David Parker has done a Shearer… Like a cult and too red – Parker on LabourLabour leadership contender David Parker says Labour borders on feeling like “a cult” and must look at its branding – including its...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • A brief word on the hundreds of millions NZ is spending on the secret intel...
    The enormity of the mass surveillance state NZ Government’s have built carries a huge price tag… Kiwis pay $103m ‘membership fee’ for spyingThe $103 million taxpayer funding of New Zealand’s intelligence agencies is effectively a membership fee for joining the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Where. Is. Jason. Ede?
    Where. Is. Jason. Ede?...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Labour’s Din of Inequity
    Watching Labour’s leadership candidates on Q+A on Sunday, I noticed the ongoing use of terms like “opportunity” and “aspiration”, and “party of the workers”. What do these mean? We glean much from Labour, and from the media about Labour, but not...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • “Blue-Greenwash” fails the test when it comes to endangered dolphins
    National’s pre-election promises saw some wins for the environment – perhaps as the party sought to appease its “Blue-Green” voters and broaden its popular appeal. Some of the ecological gains were a long time in the making, overdue even– such...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Reasons not to be cheerful, Part #272b
    Why don’t you get back into bed? The next few years — the rest of this century — are not going to be pretty. There is an obvious disconnect between any remaining political ambition to fix climate change and the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • OIA protocols and official advice ignored to hide Child Poverty
    It might not seem so now, but child poverty was a major election issue. What a pity we did not have the full debate. In that debate it would have been very helpful to have seen the Ministry of Social...
    The Daily Blog | 20-10
  • Previewing the 4 candidates for Leader of the Labour Party
    The extraordinary outbursts by Shearer last week highlights just how toxic that Caucus is. Shearer was on every major media platform as the ABC attack dog tearing into Cunliffe in the hope of diminishing Cunliffe’s support of Little by tearing...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – the sudden explosion of ‘left’ blogs
    Time to Teach or more people will suffer from P.A.I.D. Political And Intellectual Dysmorphia.I was on the Twitter and a guy followed me so of course I did the polite thing and followed him back. He wrote a blog so...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Ego vs Eco
    Ego vs Eco...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • We can’t let the Roastbuster case slip away
    Those of us (like me) left with hope that the police would aggressively follow through on the large amount of evidence on offer to them (let’s not forget they forgot they even had some at one point) in the Roastbusters...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Food, shelter and medicine instead of bombs and bullets
    The on-going conflict across the Middle East – due in large part to the US-led invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq – has created another humanitarian crisis of biblical proportion. The essentials of life are desperately needed in Iraq and Syria...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • The politics of electorate accommodations
    National’s electorate accommodations with ACT and United Future were a big factor in it winning re-election. Interestingly, there is another electorate accommodation scenario whereby the centre-left could have come out on top, even with the same distribution of party votes....
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Why you should join the TPPA Action on 8 November
    On 8 November 2014, thousands of Kiwis will take part in the International Day of Action to protest the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA). The rally cry for us is TPPA – Corporate Trap, Kiwis Fight Back. Why should you join...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • GUEST BLOG – Patrick O’Dea: no new coal mines
    Green Party and Mana Party policy is “NO NEW COAL MINES!” Auckland Coal Action is trying to put this policy into action on the ground. ACA after a hard fought two year campaign waged alongside local residents and Iwi, in...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Comparing Police action – Hager raid vs Roast Buster case
    This satire had the NZ Police contact TDB and threaten us with 6months in prison for using their logo.   The plight of Nicky Hager and the draconian Police actions against him has generated over  $53 000 in donations so...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • Malala Yousafzai, White Saviour Complexes and Local Resistance
    Last week, Malala Yousafzai was the co-recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize. Since her exposure to the worldwide spotlight, her spirit, wisdom and strength have touched the hearts of people everywhere. However, there have been cynics who have argued that...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • Jason Ede is back – but no media can interview him?
    Well, well, well. Jason Ede, the main figure connected to John Key’s office and the Dirty Politics black ops is back with a company with deep ties to the National Party. One thing you can say about the right –...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Leadership Transitions In Other Parties: A ...
    As cannot have escaped anyone’s attention by now, the country is presently in the grips of an election and campaign that will help determine the fate of the nation for years to come. It’s gripping stuff – with clear divides...
    The Daily Blog | 17-10
  • SkyCity worker says she faces losing her house
    SkyCity worker Carolyn Alpine told the company annual shareholder’s meeting today that she faced the prospect of losing her house because the company had cut her shifts from two a week to one without consultation. The solo mother, has worked...
    The Daily Blog | 17-10
  • Greg O’Connor’s latest push to arm cops & 5 reasons not to
    I was wondering at what point within a 3rd term of National that Police Cheerleader Greg O’Connor would start trying to demand cops be armed. O’Connor must have thought to himself, ‘if bloody Key can get us and the GCSB vast new...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • You can’t have crisis without ISIS
    So the new scary bogeyman ISIS might have chemical weapons that the US secretly found in Iraq, but America didn’t want to expose this find because the WMDs were actually built and made by the US and Europe, the two powers...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • NZ WINS UN SPIN THE BOTTLE! Privately sucking up to America for a decade me...
    Oh, we are loved! Little old NZ, the 53rd state of America after Israel and Australia, gets to sit at the adults table for the special dinner party that is the UN Security Council. How delightful, a decade of privately...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • MEDIA BLOG – Myles Thomas – A World Without Advertising
    Non-commercial broadcasting and media. It’s a solution for all manner of problems ailing our tender nation… voter engagement, unaccountable governance, apathy, stupefaction, public education, science in schools, arts appreciation, cultural cringe… But no-one could’ve guessed that non-commercial media might solve...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • March against war – 2pm Saturday 25th October
    March against war – 2pm Saturday 25th October...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • Whack a mole as US govt foreign policy
    Whack-A-Mole was a popular arcade game from my youth.  It consisted of a waist high cabinet with holes in the top. Plastic moles seemingly randomly pop out of these holes. The purpose of the game was to hit as many...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • In Paean of Debt
    This week is ‘Money Week’. It’s an opportunity to promote to the middle classes, and anyone else who will listen, the virtues of wise ‘investment’. The aims are to promote the mystical (and indeed mythical) virtues of saving for the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • The last 48 hours – Poverty denial, war denial and unapologetic abuse of ...
    The bewildering speed of events that simply end in Key shrugging and proclaiming he doesn’t really give a shit is coming think and fast as the Government suddenly appreciate the full spectrum dominance they now enjoy. Here is Radio NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – Mana 2.0 Rebooted
    Internationally the news is that Evo Morales of Bolivia won big with Left Wing policies But what are the chances that the Left will make a resurgence in this country? As the internecine struggles between the Left and the Right...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • The Blomfield IPCA letter – Has Dirty Politics leaked into the NZ Police ...
    It’s difficult to know what to make of the IPCA letter to Matthew Blomfield over Slater’s continued insistence that the hard drive taken from Matthew wasn’t stolen.  Slater has selectively cherry picked the Police referring back to his claim that Blomfeild perjured...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • ​Media release: Rail and Maritime Transport Union – Auckland move for K...
    The Rail and Maritime Transport Union is questioning a KiwiRail proposal to progressively relocate its Zero Harm personnel from Wellington to Auckland. “The purpose of the Zero Harm team is to drive KiwiRail’s performance in health and safety.  Rail is a...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • Amnesty International – Friend request from an IS militant
    There’s always that one person, that one Facebook friend, usually a musician or event promoter, who, when you so foolishly accept their friend request, will completely inundate your news feed with copious event invitations and promotions. The person who, despite...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • NZ should follow the UK and recognize the Palestinian state
    Over the past two weeks, the United Kingdom and Sweden have made headlines through their decisions to recognize the state of Palestine. They are hardly the first nations to do so. Indeed, 134 countries have, in various ways, given formal...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • Pike River Families Group Press Release
    The Families can now but hope that Solid Energy will consider closely the response of the Families’ expert mining advisers, Bob Stevenson and Dave Creedy, and the independent legal advice by Hugh Rennie QC as to why re-entry to the...
    Scoop politics | 24-10
  • On The Nation this weekend
    This weekend on The Nation… with dairy prices falling, China growing its agriculture sector, and the environmental costs piling up, we ask the Fonterra chief executive Theo Spierings if New Zealand is too dependent on milk powder and if we’ve...
    Scoop politics | 24-10
  • NZ Government Urged to Do More to Fight Ebola
    As Ebola continues to tear through West Africa, Save the Children NZ is urging the government to do more in the fight against the deadly virus....
    Scoop politics | 24-10
  • Korero Mai Ki Ahau – Saturday 25 & Sunday 26 October 2014
    Broadcast on Waatea 603AM Saturday 12.00 - 12.30pm Sunday 12.00 - 12.30pm Both shows repeated 5.00pm – 6.00pm On Sunday...
    Scoop politics | 24-10
  • Putting whānau foremost in Family Dispute Resolution
    Dispute resolution company, FairWay Resolution, has developed a uniquely New Zealand approach to family dispute resolution (FDR) that is underpinned by the cultural needs and values of the parties to a family dispute. In support of its role as a...
    Scoop politics | 24-10
  • Anglican Family Care staff to rally industrial action rises
    Public Service Association (PSA) members working at Anglican Family Care (AFC) in Dunedin will hold two rallies in Dunedin next week as they seek a fair pay offer, following a week of low-key industrial action....
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Flying Visit for Adventuring Kiwi Socialpreneur
    12 Months on, this former Alexandra barista is changing lives in Buenos Aires Slums with free lunches, music, art, drama and toothbrushes...
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • March in Solidarity with Kurdistan Against ISIS Attacks
    The New Zealand Kurdish Community will march in solidarity with Kurdistan in light of the heinous genocidal attacks in Kobanê by ISIS. We will begin with silent demonstrations then commence marching. We will start from Britomart, Queen Street (outside Dick...
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • No Problem for Henare & Jones, But “No Way” for Harawira
    “Just before the election I broke the story about the gutting of Maori Television’s News and Current Affairs department by MTS’ new CEO Paora Maxwell. I pointed out that Carol Hirschfeld and Julian Wilcox, two of the country’s most experienced...
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Corruption: Positive developments for NZ but more to be done
    Global anti-corruption group Transparency International today released a report on OECD Anti-Bribery Convention enforcement and called for New Zealand to implement draft legislation to ratify the United Nations Convention against Corruption....
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Government to Blame as Much as Council for Marryatt Payout
    The Taxpayers' Union is calling on the Government to fix the employment law regime that has forced Christchurch ratepayers to fork out $800,000 to former Council boss Tony Marryatt....
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Unanimously Call for Commissioner to Arm Police Full Time
    In the wake of a series of recent armed offender incidents, delegates to the Police Association Annual Conference today called unanimously on the Commissioner to arm Police full time....
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Bank gets behind NZ wildlife icon with sizable donation
    It will be easier than ever this summer for holiday-markers to dip into their pockets to support the yellow-eyed penguin....
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • WorkSafe report raises concerns about asbestos
    The union representing construction workers in the Canterbury rebuild is surprised at WorkSafe’s conclusion that no action needs to be taken against EQC and Fletcher EQR over asbestos exposure in Canterbury homes. “This report was an opportunity...
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Union accuses SkyCity CEO of misleading public
    Unite Union has accused SkyCity CEO Nigel Morrison of misleading the public over the cut in hours for a staff member who raised the issue at the company's AGM....
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Last Hurrah on the Taxpayer
    Responding to the NZ Herald report that Hone Harawira spent up $54,000 on the taxpayer in his last three months as an MP, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says: “It is absolutely disgraceful that an MP managed to rack...
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Press statement in relation to search of Nicky Hager’s home
    On 2 October 2014, Nicky Hager's home in Wellington was searched by police. Mr Hager asserted that documents kept at his house were protected by privilege, including because they contained information that might identify confidential sources....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • The Sam Simon arrives into Auckland for new campaign
    This morning Sea Shepherd ship, the Sam Simon, arrived into Auckland harbour after its journey from Melbourne. The ship and its 25 crew from around the globe have come to New Zealand to source supplies and prepare for the upcoming...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Low inflation – time for meaningful wage increases
    With inflation low, now is a good time for workers to negotiate for pay increases that outstrip price rises and deliver real increases in wages and salaries. “For too many people, real pay increases have been missing for several years...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Auckland Rates Rises Out of Control
    Responding to the NZ Herald report that Auckland ratepayers will face an average of a 29 percent rates increase, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says: “These rate rises show that Len Brown's spending is out of control.”...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Protest at New Plymouth Oil and Gas Expo
    About 30 protesters from Climate Justice Taranaki, Frack-free Kapiti, Te Uru Pounamu Action Group, Oil Free Wellington, Frack-free Manawatu and the east coast protested yesterday outside New Plymouth's biennial Oil and Gas Expo at the TSB Stadium....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • FMA warns consumers about cold-calling investment offers
    The Financial Markets Authority (FMA) is warning New Zealand consumers and investors to be wary of cold-calls asking them to buy shares or put their money into offshore firms....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Comprehensive plan needed to end child poverty
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  • Taxpayers’ Union Responds to Joyce on Corporate Welfare
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  • Speech from the Throne brings welcome focus on children
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    Scoop politics | 21-10
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    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Green MP to speak at panel on Rainbow Mental Health
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    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Chatham Rise mining could have impact on whales and dolphins
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    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Council endorses Nanaia Mahuta as the next Labour leader
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    Scoop politics | 20-10
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    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Announcing a New Voice for The Left
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    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Public services held back by poor workplace culture
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    Scoop politics | 20-10
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    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Prison Drug Treatment Unit marks a milestone
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    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Security Council seat a chance for NZ to empower women
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    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Waipareira and ACC sign Partnership
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    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Humanitarian aid desperately needed in Iraq and Syria
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    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Court Judicial Decision: Dotcom v The USA: 17 October 2014
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    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Marshall Island poet speaks at UN climate summit
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    Scoop politics | 19-10
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