I notice you still have not addressed the question of Labour corruption. Again, spell out in detail the Labour corruption allegations, go public, or piss off. If you want to take a shot and you have the ability to back it up do so, or are you afraid of ridicule, cost, possible legal recourse etc?

PS I do sleep soundly, even when there are creeps out there.

A Minister is supposed to stay at home or pay for self and spousal travel while Opposition MP’s elected prior to 1999 can cash in the 90% subsidy to their hearts content and rely on the fact that Ministerial Services is immune from the OIA.

Frankly if I was a Minister and also qualified for the 90% I would be looking towards PS also when I saw Chris Carter and an (as yet) unknown list of others heading for sunnier climes during the recess.

You really can’t be selective about this one rOb

Damm straight Rodney should resign, he spent years attacking the Labour party for their self serving spending of tax payers money and what happens when he gets the chance to do the same – he acts like the people he has attacked for years.

Rodney has acted exactly like Winston – all mouth about the bad stuff that shouldn’t be done while doing it himself. – His position is untenable and he must go. He has immediately fallen for the baubles of office and an apology is not enough.

You demonstrate a very high level of disingenuity, I dont for a moment believe you want to see Rodney resign. Nor do I believe you have any real grounds for calling Labour corrupt.

Put your cock on the block, go public, substantiate your contentions or piss off. And rOb, you are right, iot must be slightly creepy beingt stalked by a cretin.

You need a better hobby Burt, stalking me is kinda creepy.

Labour party was that once they had paid back their stolen money they had no further case to answer.

I don’t recall saying any such thing Burt (and Labour were not corrupt, and nor did they steal any money). I do recall saying that they were not legally required to pay anything back (like National, ACT and the rest), and that paying money back was all about the court of public opinion. The same applies in Hide’s case of course.

So if all the MPs pay it back will you consider they have done all that is required and that we should move on from this little mishap.

The standard you set for the most corrupt govt NZ has ever had to endure Labour party was that once they had paid back their stolen money they had no further case to answer.

I’m still calling for Rodney to resign but I’m picking that you will stay consistent and call me an idiot because he has paid the money back and therefore he has no further case to answer. I struggle with the concept that normal people who break rules/laws don’t get to simply pay it back and move on like politicians do, but under Labour you were adamant that paying it back was sufficient punishment.

So over to you rOb, convince me Rodney should stay or once again highlight your double standards ..

coincidence?

a work-around that Key himself signed off on, just proving that he is all talk – he talks strong but acts weak

These days however, every annual pay increase for the pollies is put forward on the basis of ‘attracting the right people’, ‘pay parity with the private sector’, etc etc. And as such the public service element has been heavily diminished. Remuneration has skyrocketed due to this sea-change and as such so should the perks sink.

The pollies have accepted the more market / private sector type approach when it comes to income, and so they should too when it comes to perks. They can’t have their cake and eat it too. Tho they try.