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	<title>Comments on: I don&#8217;t buy it for one second</title>
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	<description>The New Zealand labour movement used to have its own newspaper. A group of us thought that now might be a good time for it to be digitally reborn: The Standard v2.0 - now in a new format The Standard v3.0</description>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/i-dont-buy-it-for-one-second/comment-page-2/#comment-194787</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are involved in the housing expenses claim &quot;rort&quot;, you charge taxpayers for a holiday, you charge Ministerial services for wine and then declare this falsely - and you want to be seen as someone having standards. So you have a couple of weeks off.  

Your colleagues try to persuade you otherwise, possibly concerned at setting a lower theshold than they were comfortable with - but if it works to restore your reputation so you can make a fresh start in the job, stuff &#039;m.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are involved in the housing expenses claim &#8220;rort&#8221;, you charge taxpayers for a holiday, you charge Ministerial services for wine and then declare this falsely &#8211; and you want to be seen as someone having standards. So you have a couple of weeks off.  </p>
<p>Your colleagues try to persuade you otherwise, possibly concerned at setting a lower theshold than they were comfortable with &#8211; but if it works to restore your reputation so you can make a fresh start in the job, stuff &#8216;m.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/i-dont-buy-it-for-one-second/comment-page-1/#comment-194771</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depending on the size of the closet relative to the whoopsy there could very well have been a smear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depending on the size of the closet relative to the whoopsy there could very well have been a smear!</p>
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		<title>By: winnie</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/i-dont-buy-it-for-one-second/comment-page-1/#comment-194746</link>
		<dc:creator>winnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank goodness for name suppression lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank goodness for name suppression lol</p>
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		<title>By: mickysavage</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/i-dont-buy-it-for-one-second/comment-page-1/#comment-194719</link>
		<dc:creator>mickysavage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that David Parker set the standard.  He resigned because he did not file an annual return with the Companies Office when he actually did!

He must be catholic.

His return to cabinet was welcome and he continues to be a great performer.

Heatley on the other hand will not be missed ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that David Parker set the standard.  He resigned because he did not file an annual return with the Companies Office when he actually did!</p>
<p>He must be catholic.</p>
<p>His return to cabinet was welcome and he continues to be a great performer.</p>
<p>Heatley on the other hand will not be missed &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Magoo</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/i-dont-buy-it-for-one-second/comment-page-1/#comment-194709</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Magoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing I could think of was that Queen song: another one bites the dust.

and another one down and another one down...


Its a cliche I know, but it does fit. 

Let the official information act request-off begin!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing I could think of was that Queen song: another one bites the dust.</p>
<p>and another one down and another one down&#8230;</p>
<p>Its a cliche I know, but it does fit. </p>
<p>Let the official information act request-off begin!!</p>
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		<title>By: Irascible</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/i-dont-buy-it-for-one-second/comment-page-1/#comment-194698</link>
		<dc:creator>Irascible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor Cheatley, The resignation is suspicious unless he has a higher PR idea behind it - like painting himself as being honorable while preparing to knife Johnkey in the back. Is this the first whiff of a palace coup in the making??
Not that I place much trust in Cheatley&#039;s intellectual or honorable prowess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Cheatley, The resignation is suspicious unless he has a higher PR idea behind it &#8211; like painting himself as being honorable while preparing to knife Johnkey in the back. Is this the first whiff of a palace coup in the making??<br />
Not that I place much trust in Cheatley&#8217;s intellectual or honorable prowess.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Glen Eden</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/i-dont-buy-it-for-one-second/comment-page-1/#comment-194690</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Glen Eden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the Minister who resigns in disgrace was the top story on the Granny Herald for a couple of hours before it is topped by girl who helps cop in line for bravery reward story.The next story will be Bank&#039;s  loyal dog picks up paper for him at 4 am every morning, how amazing!

 If this was a Labour cabinet minister it would be up for days but not when its one of their mates aye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the Minister who resigns in disgrace was the top story on the Granny Herald for a couple of hours before it is topped by girl who helps cop in line for bravery reward story.The next story will be Bank&#8217;s  loyal dog picks up paper for him at 4 am every morning, how amazing!</p>
<p> If this was a Labour cabinet minister it would be up for days but not when its one of their mates aye.</p>
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		<title>By: mickysavage</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/i-dont-buy-it-for-one-second/comment-page-1/#comment-194678</link>
		<dc:creator>mickysavage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must ... divert ... attention

Must ... divert ... attention</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must &#8230; divert &#8230; attention</p>
<p>Must &#8230; divert &#8230; attention</p>
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		<title>By: Outofbed</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/i-dont-buy-it-for-one-second/comment-page-1/#comment-194677</link>
		<dc:creator>Outofbed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>attempt at being fuckwit?  passed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>attempt at being fuckwit?  passed</p>
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		<title>By: big bruv</title>
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		<dc:creator>big bruv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She did as far as I am aware.

Bradford was involved in the Greens housing allowance rort, I suspect she resigned in shame before the press released any further damaging information.

Naturally the story died once the people of NZ received the fantastic news that she was going to be leaving the house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She did as far as I am aware.</p>
<p>Bradford was involved in the Greens housing allowance rort, I suspect she resigned in shame before the press released any further damaging information.</p>
<p>Naturally the story died once the people of NZ received the fantastic news that she was going to be leaving the house.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfly</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/i-dont-buy-it-for-one-second/comment-page-1/#comment-194674</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wateva!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wateva!</p>
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		<title>By: Tigger</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/i-dont-buy-it-for-one-second/comment-page-1/#comment-194665</link>
		<dc:creator>Tigger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attempt to throw suspicion fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attempt to throw suspicion fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Wateva</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/i-dont-buy-it-for-one-second/comment-page-1/#comment-194660</link>
		<dc:creator>Wateva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting I wonder why sue bradford resigned maybe she had something disgusting to hide</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting I wonder why sue bradford resigned maybe she had something disgusting to hide</p>
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		<title>By: Armchair Critic</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/i-dont-buy-it-for-one-second/comment-page-1/#comment-194657</link>
		<dc:creator>Armchair Critic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care about paintings, and I agree about not redefining words, but I&#039;m not in the mood for pedantry, Strathen.
My dictionary (a Concise Oxford) refers to fraud and deceit under the entry for forgery.  Looking at fraud and deceit, it says they are done for personal gain.
Your links say nothing directly about the motives for forgery (i.e. they don&#039;t prove your point), but they do refer to deceit, which includes the motive of personal gain.
Like Draco said, show me a forgery that was done for altruistic reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care about paintings, and I agree about not redefining words, but I&#8217;m not in the mood for pedantry, Strathen.<br />
My dictionary (a Concise Oxford) refers to fraud and deceit under the entry for forgery.  Looking at fraud and deceit, it says they are done for personal gain.<br />
Your links say nothing directly about the motives for forgery (i.e. they don&#8217;t prove your point), but they do refer to deceit, which includes the motive of personal gain.<br />
Like Draco said, show me a forgery that was done for altruistic reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Draco T Bastard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/i-dont-buy-it-for-one-second/comment-page-1/#comment-194654</link>
		<dc:creator>Draco T Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell you what, instead of debating the absolute meaning of the word, why don&#039;t you find an instance of forgery that wasn&#039;t done for personal gain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell you what, instead of debating the absolute meaning of the word, why don&#8217;t you find an instance of forgery that wasn&#8217;t done for personal gain?</p>
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