Iain Lees-Galloway: how many meathooks to the head will it take?

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1. aerobubble 1

   19 June 2015 at 12:47 pm

   Children disabled for life by neglect, all to fund the dairy and finance sectors, oh and now the meat industries churning workers through to ACC dependency.

   Wasn’t there a narrative about a King who given a baby, chops it in two inorder to increase growth and stay rich. Rather than listen to common sense, because the market would save the top half thanks to medical advances, even if the child was disabled for the rest of its life.

   Market solutions offset negatives to others motivated by profit incentives that can only be dealt with by open government, free press and an active population. All three now under attack, mass surveillance means every person on the planet has a data file on them in China, and the west. Press barons desperate to hold onto power and wealth shutting down means to hold govt accountable, a population too stressed by earning and surviving to look up and see what even the Pope finally gets. The merging govt with corporations in the 80s was like choosing to cut the baby in half, abdicate responsibility for setting market standards. And it was a giant lie, middle east oil, high density cheap energy spurred global growth, where was the Pope then? It sure wasn’t the financial coup that brought us growth but they sure held back spreading the advances of the west to the third world.
2. Charles 2

   19 June 2015 at 1:10 pm

   “What will improve our health and safety record is changes in behaviour and attitude, and that is what I am promoting.”

   By making workplaces more dangerous? Oh right yeah, the invisible hand of the… um… the free hand of the … unemcumbered individual to make personal behavioural changes. But not when it’s inconvenient to production. Hey, guy gets stuck on hook, don’t stop the line, he just made a bad choice of behaviour. People die, everyday, 23,000 or so serious injuries over the past four years – all bad behavioural choices. What’s worse is they then try to get compensation, to cover up their choice of laziness, so they can afford to eat, dirty lazy scumbags. [sarc]

   Been a while since a Nat MP has shown his face in my neck of the woods. Gee I hope one of them doesn’t make a bad behavioural choice and knock on my door in 2017. I’d put a “warning – steep stairway” sign up, but it’s better they make personal choices themselves, to avoid injury. Things happen. Sandstorms, pneumonia, slipping on stairs… not out of the ordinary. Also been a while since the right have told us we’re just jealous we aren’t them. I guess it’s hard for even them to believe it anymore. Who would aspire to that.
   • miravox 2.1

     19 June 2015 at 8:26 pm

     Changing attitudes and behaviours? Of people like those in charge of Pike River? Woodhouse should be pushing the new regulations without delay. These people need a new legislative and workplace context to ensure their attitudes and behaviours are correspond with their responsibilites.
   • maui 2.2

     20 June 2015 at 1:31 am

     Hehe, brilliant.
3. Tracey 3

   19 June 2015 at 2:12 pm

   Does anyone know if the number of workplace deaths and serious injuries has been static or is there any correlation between the drop off of union membership and workplace serious injuries/deaths?
   • AmaKiwi 3.1

     19 June 2015 at 2:57 pm

     Excellent question, Tracey.
     • Tracey 3.1.1

       19 June 2015 at 3:02 pm

       I’ve emailed the CTU to see if they have the answer
   • McFlock 3.2

     19 June 2015 at 3:43 pm

     well, fairly static at 50/year over the last five years.

     Time series data before that is a bit more difficult to google
     • Tracey 3.2.1

       19 June 2015 at 3:46 pm

       Thanks McFlock. I started at google but ran out of time. Am hoping the CTU can share their tracking stats. IMO we need to look from at least the introduction of the ECA 1990
       • McFlock 3.2.1.1

         19 June 2015 at 3:51 pm

         yeah it also returns a lot of extras without tight filters to govt.nz
       • Atiawa 3.2.1.2

         20 June 2015 at 10:30 am

         Manual jobs in meat works, factories, forestry and the wharf have been replaced by new technology and automation, which would make it difficult for any comparisons.
         I remember going to the pub at lunch time for a jug and a pie back in the 60’s, 70’s & 80’s when working in the freezing works and knew guys who would down half a dozen big bottles during their lunch hour. Workers would be sacked nowadays if they were to indulge similarly.
         Of course new automation wasn’t introduced to make workers lives more fulfilling or interesting. Increasing production and the speed that job’s are now required to be worked at, invariably leads to greater risk of injury, especially repetitive strain type injuries.
         • Tracey 3.2.1.2.1

           20 June 2015 at 10:36 am

           Good point about the automation.

           OTOH in Germany it is not uncommon for workers to have a pint at lunchtime.
4. Smilin 4

   19 June 2015 at 4:38 pm

   Its simply the implementation now of what will be completely legal and out of the govt hands when the TPPA is fully operational
   International CORPORATIONS overriding the ability of a sovereign govt to do the right thing because in the present govt it wont do what people have to do to earn a living RISK THEIR LIVES or govern to protect the lives of workers.
   Because this is, we have a WW1 thinking govt because many of the members have learnt nothing from history either their own or as a member of a nation which has sacrificed plenty
   This govt has little or no NZers with a sense of history prior to the advent of the national party and if they do they ought to be ashamed of themselves
   Corporate cop out lacKEY pack of whatever dog tucker name you want to give them
5. Weepus beard 5

   19 June 2015 at 8:46 pm

   Good on Ian L-G. It about time someone other than the speaker got angry in parliament.
6. adam 6

   19 June 2015 at 11:03 pm

   As a person who gives the labour party Mp’s as much grief as the Tory scum.

   I must say I was impressed by one labour MP who actually sound left wing – well done Iain Lees-Galloway.

   Actually caring about workers, and them going home at night after work to loved ones. No one should die for a job – or be seriously disabled, because some slack employer did not want to spend a few bucks making a job safe.

   And may I say well done for pointing the finger at Talley – that creton and his ilk, are the true romper stompers in this country.
   • miravox 6.1

     20 June 2015 at 2:14 am

     +1
   • tc 6.2

     20 June 2015 at 9:34 am

     Yup contrast that with the lack of fire and passion from other opposition spokespeople on their portfolios….novopay, ryalls chooks coming home, housing etc

     Good on ILG that’s what an opposition should be doing all the time to wake the sheeple up.
   • Tracey 6.3

     20 June 2015 at 10:37 am

     Agree.Labour is too scared to say anything pro worker lest they be accused of being pro union… so they say nothing (usually) which is a win for those who don’t honour/value/respect their employees as anything other than a unit on a spreadsheet.
7. Stuart Munro 7

   20 June 2015 at 1:11 am

   How many meathooks to the head will it take?

   One.

   When the scum running these companies know that they run the same risk they’ll be all in favour of safety.
   • locus 7.1

     20 June 2015 at 7:07 am

     +1 Stuart

     “228 workplace fatalities and 23,416 serious injuries”…… in less than 5 years!
     ….and in a country with only a few hundred thousand employees in high hazard industries!

     only an utterly shallow unsympathetic sociopath would openly admit such shameful and shocking numbers – and then suggest that the problem is to do with behaviour of employees rather than the fact that management in profit driven businesses are completely incapable of self-regulation if this involves a cost or might impact the bottom line

     every single death and serious injury is, and was, avoidable – every fatality is, and will be, a shattered family

     utterly reprehensible inexcusable ignorance from the government minister

     and as for the speaker…… pathetic partisan pm’s pimp…. spit
8. Skinny 8

   20 June 2015 at 10:47 am

   Pretty good questioning by Iain. He is a bit green but doing OK. The meat workers are a bit fragmented maybe they should have a central hui tap the various tribes for funding.

   Talley’s are picking off one freezing works at a time. As the saying goes united we stand divided you beg!

   Good to see Fenton getting stuck in too their cause. God knows they need all the help they can get.
9. Brigid 9

   21 June 2015 at 2:03 am

   Woodhouse says “…any more than road rules prevent death and injury on the road.” Why do we have them then? What an idiot.
   LObloodyL.

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