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In defence of Bevan Chuang

Written By: - Date published: 8:11 am, October 17th, 2013 - 283 comments
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We have two politicians in trouble in New Zealand.  One is facing two years jail.  The other is facing opprobrium for inappropriate moral behaviour …

Of course the politician who breached the moral code is facing the most examination.

And there has been extensive analysis of the other party involved.  Her identity was released quickly and ever since her character has been part of the feeding frenzy.

The affidavit that she signed reads like porn.  I would not be surprised if Ms Chuang would have chosen a different way to describe what happened.  The phrases used read like a male fantasy and the descriptions are too indiscrete for a woman to use.  No doubt Slater and Cook wanted it to be as salacious as possible.

And Chuang has come out this morning and given her view of matters.

She confirmed that the Palino campaign had information about the affair during the campaign and wanted to use it.  Her reluctance for the information  to be released while she was herself seeking public office is understandable.

Obviously she was devastated by her narrow loss in the election.  I can understand and appreciate how she felt.

She obviously now regrets the publicity and I am aware that she has urged Palino’s team and Slater to stop contacting her.

The following comments which I received from a reader describe the situation very well.  It was written before the Herald’s article appeared this morning.

The Other Woman never does well out of these things.  In this case The Other Woman is a political hopeful.  She works in circles where you need to be able to smile convincincly and get your face in the social pages.  She knowingly had an affair with a married man, and lots of people, married women especially, judge that super harshly.

She will be cut dead as dead by those on the centre-right who she was politically aligned with, particularly those on the Christian Right.  She’s already been excised from the C-R website. She won’t find any friends on the centre-left either because of the perception she has tried to do in a mayor from that side of the paddock.

What did she have to benefit from outting her affair with Len??

Why use so much detail that would reveal a huge amount about her private matters, result in people questioning the veracity of it all and cause everyone who read it to throw up in their mouth a little.

Maybe, and this wouldn’t be the first time in the history of sex scandals, this has all got rather out of the control of The Other Woman.  Maybe in the hands of really odious people who don’t give a shit about her (or quality journalism) The Other Women isn’t quite what she appears from the way the publisher has put things.

We have only heard from The Other Woman through that known liar Whaleoil and disgraced former journo Cook.  If a person will falsely claim that a mayoral hopeful they don’t like has arrogantly said only an earthquake could stop them from winning, days before an earthquake hits that city, and then actually fake-edits a video to make it look like they said it when they obviously did not, imagine what they would do to some sexually explicit quotes and stories about a mayor they have hated on for years.

Look at it this way.  What if Whaleoil already knew about the affair?  What if he approached her, not the other way around?  What if he told her I know and this is going to be so much better for you if you talk to me and then you can control things?  Give me your side of the story, I’ll make you look good, it’ll all be fine for you.  You’ll get some revenge and be held up as a heroine for showing us all Len’s true character and saving the city.

After all Cook has a history in doing just that to sources and then leaving them for dead, in one case quite literally.

Yes yes woman scorned, all that stuff.  But a lot of this doesn’t make sense.  She receives an anonymous threatening text and that’s why she went public, but also she voted for the man she thinks was behind that text?  Qui bono – who has the strongest interest in getting her to go public?  Not Len, that’s for sure.  Not The Other Woman either.

283 comments on “In defence of Bevan Chuang”

  1. karol 1

    Good on Bevan for explaining. Last night it started to look like Bevan had been badly served by Cook & Slater when I read she had gone to ground. This is what I commented:

    Yep. And now Chuang, not really understanding how she’s been used, has gone to ground, upset at the kind of attention she’s getting, and probably hadn’t anticipated – albeit she’s blaming Team Brown, unwilling to believe how SleazeOil has manipulated her.

    And this:

    Whose decision was it to publish so much salacious detail? It has the whiff of SleazeOil to me. And now the woman has gone to ground with Stephen C(r)ook weeping crocodile tears about her fragility, while threatening to release more details. What a piece of work those guys are!

    I avoided reading the salacious details. But the fact they were like that, and the bits that I saw in the MSM, had SleazeOil’s grubby style all over it. What a creep!

    And yet again, everything the clumsy sleaze merchant touches turns back on him!

  2. You_Fool 2

    I feel sorry for Ms Chuang – this always read like a young woman being used whilst in a bad emotional state

    • Tom Gould 2.1

      Was the affidavit obtained under duress? Seem so. Was Ms Chuang pressured into cooperating with the author of the affidavit? Seems so. Are the words in the affidavit truthfully attributable to her? Seems unlikely. Has she been used as a pawn in a venal political gambit to destroy Len Brown. You bet. I also feel for Ms Chuang. She is increasingly looking like a hapless victim of rampant Tory corruption to me.

      • swan 2.1.1

        Oh corruption now??? Do tell.

        • Tom Gould 2.1.1.1

          Does the name John Archibald Banks ring any bells? Word has it that daddy Slater was in court with Banks on Tuesday. Why would Palino’s campaign manager be there? The Auckland Tory vipers nest is looking more venal by the hour.

          • Penny Bright 2.1.1.1.1

            Yes – I can confirm that John Slater was in the Auckland District Court on Tuesday 15 October 2013 – the day that Kim Dotcom, his lawyer and bodyguard + the CEO of Sky City gave evidence which confirmed that John Banks KNEW that donations from these parties were NOT anonymous.

            I smell a rat the size of an elephant.

            In my considered opinion, those who really run the Auckland region, the Committee for Auckland and NZ Property Council are VERY happy with Len Brown.

            So – why would they want him removed?

            Just like in 2010 – this election was NOT about ‘left’ vs ‘right’ – it was about the public majority vs the big corporate (and property developer) minority.

            But – just to keep up pretences, the so-called ‘right’, put up political rookie John Palino, who has never attended a single Council meeting, and whose campaign manager was John Slater, former President of the National Party and father of Cameron Slater.

            The politically ‘dynamite ‘Len Brown’ affair, arguably could have made a difference if revealed before the end of the 2013 Auckland Council election.

            But it wasn’t.

            Why not?

            Do others find the timing of the release of this politically ‘dynamite ‘ Len Brown affair rather politically convenient?

            The EXACT same day that Kim Dotcom, his lawyer and bodyguard plus the CEO of Sky City gave evidence which confirmed that John Banks KNEW that donations from these parties were NOT anonymous?

            The Len Brown sex scandal, certainly trumped Kim Dotcom and the Banks electoral fraud scandal, in mainstream media coverage on Tuesday 15 October 2013.

            Judge Gittos announced on Tuesday 15 October 2013 that he would give his decision on whether or not Banks would go to trial on Wednesday 16 October 2013.

            (In my opinion, it appeared that both Banks and his lawyer were confident that this electoral fraud case would stop at this point.

            Graham McCready, whom I drove back out to the airport after this oral evidence hearing, was resigned to this case NOT proceeding.

            So – it was with great delight that I left a message on his phone the next day that he had won! )

            In my opinion, the main purpose of the Len Brown sex scandal, was to act as a major political distraction, and was revealed at that time to help divert public attention away from the ‘dodgy’ John Banks electoral fraud scandal, which has SERIOUS political consequences on so many fronts for this ‘shonky’ John Key National/ACT government.

            Penny Bright
            ‘Anti-corruption /anti-privatisation Public Watchdog’
            2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate

      • Jimmie 2.1.2

        Well that is quite a game of devious chess being played here TG. So Len Brown seduced this woman as part of a cunningly deep VRWC plan to bring himself down.

        So are you suggesting that Brown is a deep plant right winger or Ms Chuang?

        Truth is Brown couldn’t keep it in his pants and has caused himself a lot of embarrassment.

        I’m sure WO didn’t cry a river about running this story but truth be told Mr Brown has only himself to blame for this mess.

        • Draco T Bastard 2.1.2.1

          Nope, this entire mess rests solely with those who published, specifically Whaleoil.

  3. swan 3

    “I feel sorry for Ms Chuang – this always read like a young woman being used whilst in a bad emotional state”

    You mean by Brown?

    • You_Fool 3.1

      and by slater, by palino, by wewegewgeegwgwweee, by the herald, by the media in general; not helped by the poor attitude by some posters here and elsewhere.

      • Tracey 3.1.1

        agree. Doesnt excuse her part in it all, but doesn’t make her evil or other epithets she has attracted here and elsewhere.

        • Colonial Viper 3.1.1.1

          Hey Tracey. Who on The Standard has used the term “evil” to describe Chuang???

          • Tracey 3.1.1.1.1

            “or other epithets she has attracted here and elsewhere.”

            reading is a skill and so is writing, perhaps I didn’t write it well.

            • Colonial Viper 3.1.1.1.1.1

              Let’s not lump most Standardistas in with the sewer swimmers is all I’m saying.

              • You_Fool

                given the comments on the multiple threads on this subject, maybe that isn’t such an easy thing to do

  4. Sanctuary 4

    Given her general treatment in this affair and her apparent inability to cope with the pressure, I hope the media cool things down now. Stephen Cook already has one kill painted on his tail, no need to help him get two.

    • Colonial Viper 4.1

      Instead it seems like the NZ Herald is going out of its way to train more Cooks for granny’s daily broth.

      As pointed out in another thread: how can this non-story still be ahead of the newer John Banks corruption story on the Herald Online, if not for sheer partisanship. And UK gutter tabloid style.

    • swan 4.2

      The media will do their job. Would have been nice if Brown thought about this when he was pleasuring himself over the phone to her.

  5. karol 5

    Interetesing what Chuang says about the alleged threatening texts, because it reveals one way SleazeOil and C(r)ook beat up the story to make Brown look as bad as they could.

    The first stories of the affair mention that Chuang received threatening “texts” (plural) after her relationship with Brown finished – make threats to stop her going public.

    Yesterday the story had pulled back to talking about “one” text to Chuang.

    Now e have this from Chuang, outlining the context of the threatening texts:

    blockquote>He [Slater] said “everything went quiet” until he wrote a blog post on Tuesday last week urging readers to vote for Mr Palino with a vague reference to Mr Brown and “Asian beauties”.

    “I got a threatening text, [Ms Chuang] got a text, my dad got a text. All from the same number.”

    He also believed the website post forced Mr Brown to tell his wife about the affair and the threat convinced Ms Chuang to sign an affidavit and provide the text messages needed to run the story.

    That gives a totally different picture. Initially it looked like the txts most likely had come from Brown or one of the few people in the know about the state of play between Brown & Chuang. Now it looks like they could have come from any one of a number of people who had read a public post.

    • swan 5.1

      Thats a big leap. Who sent those texts will be one of the keys to the outcome of all this.

      • karol 5.1.1

        BS. The biggest “key”, apart from the big Key himself, is Slater (and his handlers) – mudslinger extraordinaire, manages to spread as much muck on himself as he slings.

        • NZ Groover 5.1.1.1

          “Now it looks like they could have come from any one of a number of people who had read a public post.”

          The texter would have had to know that the women was Bevan Chuang.

          • karol 5.1.1.1.1

            It depends on how the post was worded. Have you seen it? And why did Maurice Williamson, Palino, Slater’s father, and Cameron Brewer also get the text?

            • NZ Groover 5.1.1.1.1.1

              “Have you seen it”. No I hadn’t, so I looked for it. Here’s the actual words;

              “Len Brown really takes the cake…when he isn’t slapping his face , running a glad eye over asian beauties, or lying through his teeth about his position on almost everything, he is shamelessly running his lies about his never ending rates increases”.

              Sorry but even you have to admit it’s a bit of a stretch Karol. The texter would have had to be very knowledgable about the “situation”.

              • Pascal's bookie

                Well we also haven’t seen the text yet. So who knows what the hell it actually says.

                • McFlock

                  “THIS IS AN ANONYMOUS AND THREATENING TEXT. l8r, cam” ;)

                • grumpy

                  Didn’t Chris73 send it through the other day? Sure I’ve seen it somewhere……….

                  • karol

                    Yep. Here.

                    Well, apart from anything else, I find it hard to imagine Brown would have made that statement in those words. Doesn’t ring true.

                    • grumpy

                      Begs the question……where did that come from? Not the author but I have not seen it anywhere else – and God knows, I’ve been looking :-)

                    • Hayden

                      That’s not so much threatening as prophetic, in hindsight.

                    • karol

                      True. It’s not threatening to do anything, but warning of the logical consequences of sharing stuff with WO.

                    • grumpy

                      More a statement of fact I would have thought. I’m just wondering where Chris73 picked it up from.

                    • karol

                      It’s got a WO URL.

                    • Hayden

                      Which isn’t to say it wasn’t meant to be threatening… Anyway, it’d be easy to send it as a kind of false flag operation to encourage her to talk, if someone were so inclined.

  6. Anne 6

    Perhaps some people here (including me) have been a little harsh on her, but it can’t be denied that
    she’s been a bit silly. She allowed herself to be used by Slater and co., and there must have been individuals who warned her about them. I haven’t read the article yet (must rush) but Chuang has to tell the whole story if she wants to be rehabilitated, and not allow herself to be intimidated by that worm, Cameron Slater.

    • Tracey 6.1

      she’s not innocent, but nor is she the worst behaved. We still live in a chauvinist society…

      hence the order of interest and focus is

      brown/Chuang
      banks
      slater

      Slater has not had his life all over the media to perhaps shed light on HIS motives… just his word that he would do the same to National … (didnt say ACT) but also knew about Worth but didn’t go public.

  7. Colonial Viper 7

    Miserable outcomes for all the politician types. Len’s mayoral term starts off with a limp, with its first hundred days ruined before they start. Palino looking complicit in a dumb under handed scheme because he can’t win fair and square. Chuang without enough political sense or advice to not sign her name on to a political career ending lecherous affidavit.

  8. The Lone Haranguer 8

    Good on Bevan for explaining? Give me a break Karol.

    I found the detailed descriptions quite distasteful, and put them down to:
    1) a woman scorned
    2) a disappointed candidate who failed to achieve her pre-election goals
    3) the differences between Asian and our “European” cultures when applied to politics and power

    The simple truth is that the young lady is not simple, and made a calculated decision to release the information to maximise the humiliation of Mayor Brown.

    That there was a Luigi Wewege in her bed shows that she was looking after number one, every time. Her bedroom habits are her own choice, as was her decision to hand over the texts and to sign the affidavits

    • You_Fool 8.1

      Her choice, but how much the pressure messed with her decision making process needs to be taken into consideration. Her choice, her fallout to deal with, but bad by us to paint her as a evil slut, which seem to stem not from who she is but the fact she was:

      a) the other woman
      and
      b) from the other side of the political yard

      • The Lone Haranguer 8.1.1

        There is an old saying that if you lie with dogs, you get fleas.

        I am not painting her as a “evil slut” at all, but she may well be a “political slut” who found power intoxicating, and played both camps to ensure that she wouldnt be left on the outside. If that is the case, then her scheme has backfired badly.

        On the bright side tho, Luigi Wewege has been shown in his true colours.

        • Tracey 8.1.1.1

          she’s not actually a slut at all. Show me where you have called Len a slut, or Banks a political slut?

      • One Anonymous Knucklehead 8.1.2

        c) Calling for someone’s resignation over behaviour she was a party to.
        d) Seeking election having participated in behaviour she apparently thinks Brown should resign for.

        Oh, and a) and b) aren’t part of my argument, and neither is the “evil slut” misogyny.

  9. Lanthanide 9

    “the descriptions are too indiscrete for a woman to use”

    Sexist much?

  10. Tony Moder 10

    She certainly wont be on the next Ethnic Affairs advisory board working on Asian womens health ,hasnt she ever heard of a condom? She got in over her head being naive isn’t an excuse being dumb isn’t an illness.

  11. Tracey 11

    I agree. She is being vilified in the same, old-fashioned “evil Eve” tempting the poor man way, including by many on this site. In my opinion she is th eonly person in the Banks or Brown issue that has been honest. She lashed out, with help from Jabba who said he knew she was “naive” and when she saw the outcome, has spoken for herself and withdrawn.

    While I am no fan of infidelity she covers herself in some glory compared to the others…

    John Banks is story number one
    LenBrown is story number 2
    and Journalism , imo, is story number 3

    Jabba the Whale shows all the signs of a naricassist. he says he deplores hypocrisy yet had an extra marital affair he wouldnt comment on when outed…

    IF it was about integrity of mayoral office he would have contacted Brown, advise dhim what he had, and given him a chance to come clean in private to his wife and then to t he media. BUT it’ all about Jabba… always has been, always will be.

    “Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder[1] in which the individual is described as being excessively preoccupied with issues of personal adequacy, power, prestige and vanity. First formulated in 1968, it was historically called megalomania, and is severe egocentrism.”


    Expects to be recognized as superior and special, without superior accomplishments
    Expects constant attention, admiration and positive reinforcement from others
    Envies others and believes others envy him/her
    Is preoccupied with thoughts and fantasies of great success, enormous attractiveness, power, intelligence
    Lacks the ability to empathize with the feelings or desires of others
    Is arrogant in attitudes and behavior
    Has expectations of special treatment that are unrealistic

    Per the Mayo Clinic, narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional behavior, which is in the same category as antisocial and borderline personality disorders.[7]

    Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:

    Believing that you’re better than others
    Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
    Exaggerating your achievements or talents
    Expecting constant praise and admiration
    Believing that you’re special and acting accordingly
    Failing to recognize other people’s emotions and feelings
    Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
    Taking advantage of others
    Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
    Being jealous of others
    Believing that others are jealous of you
    Trouble keeping healthy relationships
    Setting unrealistic goals
    Being easily hurt and rejected
    Having a fragile self-esteem
    Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional”

    • Colonial Viper 11.1

      You describing Chuang as the only honest party to what has gone on, made me chuckle. She was trying to surreptitiously record her cell phone conversations with Brown in August. Two months before the election. But he was no longer speaking to her.

      • Chooky 11.1.1

        CV +1 …we should be wary of looking at this from quaint British cricket rules and mores and NZ innocent wronged ,fair dealing perspective…

        … there are big moneyed vested interests at power play in Auckland ( as Winston Peters has pointed out)

        …and compared with some overseas very large, highly populated , ruthless, corrupt, exploitative countries with abysmal , disgraceful human rights ….NZers must seem naive and NZ an undeveloped heaven, ripe for the plucking..

        NZ politicians should beware of pillow talk and blackmail and espionage …knowledge is power and personal secrets make one vulnerable

      • bad12 11.1.2

        Agree with you CV, from the Herald this morning i do not get a sense of refusal to supply lover boy Luigi and through Him, Blubber boy, texts or voice messages from Len Brown to Chuang out of any ‘moral’ sense of responsibility,

        What the Herald article provides this morning is an explicit series of messages between Chuang and Luigi which shows the only reason, (given by Chuang), for not providing such messages is the fact that Len Brown by this point had cut off all communications with Her,

        On the surface, without proof to think otherwise, we could sympathize with Chuang and describe Her as naive, but, to suggest such is to suggest that not for one second did She consider what Luigi was going to use the voice/text messages from Brown to Her for,

        Now to think that She never thought for at least that one second is to stretch the bounds of credibility to the point of breaking, in the final analysis, everyone in this little tale will be found to have been using everyone else, from simple sexual gratification to political advancement they all used each other as thinking mature adults,

        The users will in effect have to share the cost in coming months and years where such use will to a certain extent for all of them turn them all into losers…

    • Virginia Linton 11.2

      Bevan Chuang and Len Brown will both have years of fallout from their affair and its aftermath. They are authors of their own misfortune, as we all are, but the real story is that crass little puppet Luigi Wewege and his links to Palin, Slater, and the top echelons of the National Party. This story is not about an affair, it’s about dirty politics and to what degree National has been involved.

    • Brett Dale 11.3

      Tracey

      Those Narcissistic points sums it two or three certain bloggers over the years.

    • Brett Dale 11.4

      Tracey

      Biggest narcissistic bloggers in nz are qot, boganettenz, and for a passive aggressive style of blogging kiwistargazer.

      Whaleoil is not narcissistic in the least, hes sleazy, hes extreme right wing (except for gay marriage) his blog is the worst type of blog there is, but hes not narcissistic.

      • fender 11.4.1

        That why you don’t read it eh Brett, did you forget it was YOU who first alerted Open mike on 15/10/2013 about the SlaterScum story?

        • McFlock 11.4.1.1

          what do you expect from someone so that they ended up having to masturbating while drowning kittens :)

          One can’t take the moral high ground while standing in a cesspool throwing muck

          • Chooky 11.4.1.1.1

            McFlock …you are a bad boy!…you are very proud of yourself for entrapping Brett Dale…lol

            • McFlock 11.4.1.1.1.1

              got tired of watching tories do it – wanted to see how difficult it was. Admittedly, with BD it was fish-barrel-shotgun.

              Needless to say, I accidentally ommitted “deny” from the previous comment, though – d’oh

              • McFlock

                damn – actually it’s not even a coherent sentence, although the cliche is familiar. More distracted by work than I thought :)

          • fender 11.4.1.1.2

            :grin:

        • Brett Dale 11.4.1.2

          fender

          I have a whole series of posts of Naricissistics at my blog, so i know what it means.

          • fender 11.4.1.2.1

            Sorry Brett, I checked out your blog once or twice a year or two ago and I’m still having nightmares.

            Glad you (think you) know what it means….even if you can’t spell it properly!

      • Tim 11.4.2

        just btw (as they say in the ‘connected world’ – Do you know if anyone is attributed as having invented the modern mirror?

      • AsleepWhileWalking 11.4.3

        @Bret Dale,
        I have to agree. Let’s not frame or even partially excuse this as a mental disorder. The man is obnoxious and it is clearly a matter of choice.

      • QoT 11.4.4

        Biggest narcissistic bloggers in nz are qot, boganettenz, and for a passive aggressive style of blogging kiwistargazer

        We must have different definitions of narcissicism.

        Mine involves people who are so up themselves that they constantly derail important conversations with off-topic, unresearched bullshit, and refuse to understand that other people don’t have to put up with that kind of thing on their blogs.

        There’s also an element of assuming your completely uninformed opinion must be true because you think it is.

        Now, who 100% fits that bill …

    • Brett Dale 11.5

      Tracey in your cut and paste job you forgot these.

      An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
      Problems in sustaining satisfying relationships
      A lack of psychological awareness
      Difficulty with empathy
      Problems distinguishing the self from others
      Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults
      Vulnerability to shame rather than guilt
      Haughty body language
      Flattery towards people who admire and affirm them
      Detesting those who do not admire them
      Using other people without considering the cost of doing so
      Pretending to be more important than they really are
      Claiming to be an “expert” at many things
      Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people

  12. Tony Moder 12

    who has a name like Luigi Wewege and dosent change it lol

  13. Sable 13

    All sounds rather murky. One thing is for sure, her political career, such as it was, is history.

  14. greywarbler 14

    One thing that can be done for Ms BC is to stop talking about the whole thing and treat those who do as trolling and freeze them off. (I like the word drooling in this context.)

    There is ongoing deterioration of standards of fair and legal and humane treatment of people evidenced by the information in the post here on TS Operation 8: Te Putatara page.

    Important matter: Comments on page – 20 comments

    On the subject of the Auckland Mayor and the use of salacious information about him, there are –

    Wednesday 16
    Whats the Play – – 98 comments
    The attack on Aucklands Democracy – 171 comments
    Why drop on Len today? – 177 comments
    And the interest in sex has swollen –
    16/10 Open Mike – – 242 comments
    15/10 Open Mike – – 415 comments

    The subject of sex and the morality of it outside marriage,
    is minor and we should keep our noses out of others’ private business.

    It is minor compared to the evidence of fascism and brutality and misuse of power and callous behaviour against citizens by other people in this country in para-military uniforms.

    Time to get our priorities of what to scrutinise sorted.

    • karol 14.1

      I think it is good that today Chuang has slung some mud at Teams Slater, Palino etc. This is helpful for the state of Auckland politics. If there is a re-election for Mayor, Palino and whoever Slater champions (Brewer?) are looking bad.

      It will also help take the pressure off Brown for a resignation in the near future. This will help with the stability of Auckland Council, while the newly elected people to other positions are getting settled in.

      But I also do wish more focus would be put on Banks. never mind though, Banks is getting some attention, and his story has a while to run.

      • Tracey 14.1.1

        +1

        and s she slings the mud, where is the intrusion into slater and palino’s lives…in the media?

  15. greywarbler 15

    9.36 am Moderation for me again. Why I wonder. Will I ever be able to fly without supervision? One day I’ll get my wings.

    • karol 15.1

      I think Lynn tightens up on auto moderation when there’s a lot of oilsewer trr0lling. Hits some of the sensible regulars too.

    • Chooky 15.2

      @ Greywarbler ..it is because you have been naughty again! ( like me you must get off the computer and do some work!)

      • greywarbler 15.2.1

        Chooky
        I think you have got the answer right there. Moderation is an inbuilt warning device indicating that I have to get away from the keyboard now, and mow the lawn, dig up those grass roots, water, pot, weed, and face my nemesis – bindweed and all its secret root routes. In fact this should be its latin name nemesis necrotisieae. Or something meaning death to this bloody weed. One thing about TS at the moment is that it gets me angry, and invigorated to do something worthwhile, not see all this interest in Br’s and BC’s sex life. Don’t people here get enough at home – w.n.ers?

        • Chooky 15.2.1.1

          …no we are all celibates here and voyeurs….which leads to you know what….McFlock’s fun!….lol….(like recipe books….. better thinking about it than doing it….especially others doing it!)

  16. Puckish Rogue 16

    “too indiscrete for a woman to use”

    – yes because women are delicate little flowers who never do anything untoward

  17. Matthew Hooton 17

    “the descriptions are too indiscrete for a woman to use”
    Ha!
    What do Karol and QoT have to say about that!

    • karol 17.1

      Thank you for your concern, Matthew.

      Actually I tend to agree with the comment, although I am not keen on blanket statements about all men and all women. Nevertheless, the salacious revelations have Slater’s masculinist style all over them.

      • Varity 17.1.1

        i haven’t read the ‘salacious details’ in all their glory either. the snippets published elsewhere are enough to get the gist. despite what i’ve said below about her not being backwards in coming forwards, women aren’t generally lewd in respect to themselves. she more than likely was strongly influenced in what to write.

    • Tiger Mountain 17.2

      Micky Sav the original may have grown up in Sunday School, many of todays women have not, a lot have too, including Len voters. Whatever one may think of religion (I think it is a handbrake on human society and progress) some see this as a morality play and might agree with the current Micky Sav.

      The writing in the Chuang affidavit stinks high given the proximity of whalespew, Luigi, Pallino, Slater Snr, and the disgraced journo.

    • felix 17.3

      DNFTT

    • grumpy 17.4

      We have a good idea what QoT would say because her feminist beliefs are consistent and strongly held. One could speculate that her socialism stems from her feminism. Karol, on the other hand, while leading the charge in defence of Brown, seems to have put her feminist instincts on hold while waving the universal banner of socialism. No mention there of “imbalance of power” etc. etc.
      QoT has been moderate in her comments – understandably. It is noticeable that the more readable and sensible commenters like Puddleglum and Lanthanide have also been restrained. CV is just having a bit of fun.

      • karol 17.4.1

        grumpy – I’m not a solid supporter of Brown. I voted for him as the lesser evil. I have said more than once that Penny Hulse is my preferred choice for mayor, even though she is not in contention.

        I am continuing to support Brown as staying in order to maintain stability of the newly elected council, and to let the dust settle before re-evaluating.

        I also have given some qualified support for Chuang in the way she has been manipulated by guys. And yes there is the power imbalance thing and I have kind of alluded to it indirectly. I have been critical of people who defend Brown because, you know, 50s guys just can’t help themselves in the face of scheming, seductive women. :roll:

        • Colonial Viper 17.4.1.1

          Just remember that there was no power imbalance between Chuang and Luigi.

          As for “defending Brown”. The powerful older man with the younger ambitious woman is like the oldest repeating story ever in the history of history. Both in antiquity and in modern history. Kennedy, Clinton, Murdoch, Berlusconi,…

          • ghostwhowalksnz 17.4.1.1.1

            Boris Johnson

            • grumpy 17.4.1.1.1.1

              A much more entertaining wanker. And there is the story…..you can get away with this sort of thing if you are a Boris (or even a Shane) but not if you are a god bothering sanctimonious git.

              • felix

                Meh I dunno about that. You all seem to turn a blind eye to Slater’s indiscretions, and he’s been pretending to be a god-botherer for years.

                • grumpy

                  Sure, he’s a flawed character – but he’s OUR flawed charactor.

                  • felix

                    Speaking of his pretend religious beliefs, how come he doesn’t just forgive Len his trespasses and move on?

                    Has he ever been known to practice forgiveness?

          • grumpy 17.4.1.1.2

            OK, but she was appointed to a Council Board and it was Brown’s decision if her appointment was to be renewed, plus he acted as her referee for a job at the Art Gallery. So, yes, I believe there was a real imbalance.
            The rest of it (except for any threats), I don’t give a stuff about. Except……it’s always entertaining to see Karol’s “50s guys just can’t help themselves in the face of scheming, seductive women. ” in action. It always seems to happen to the most self important prats. Nothing like hypocracy and sanctimony.

          • McFlock 17.4.1.1.3

            Just remember that there was no power imbalance between Chuang and Luigi.

            Well, reading some of the texts he comes off as pretty stalkerish and manipulative – “Wewege: I literally work 24/7 and something small you know you can do change my life and you won’t do it! :(”

            Like Twilight but without the sparkles.

      • Brett Dale 17.4.2

        Grumpy:

        Quite a few of the newzealand feminist blogosphere, put their feminsm on hold, when it comes
        to their ideology.

    • QoT 17.5

      What do Karol and QoT have to say about that!

      What I have to say is: fuck off, Matthew. Like you give a shit about feminism and misogyny unless you think it’s a helpful tool to derail the left.

  18. amirite 18

    It’s hard to believe that this whole Brown saga hasn’t been very convenient to this Right wing government. We know they hate Brown’s transport plan even though they publicly pretend they support it, and this was a convenient way to get rid of him and undo everything he tried to do.
    Brown still comes out of this as a stupid old fool thinking with his dick, but that is not a sackable offence unless other favours have been given in return.

    • BM 18.1

      How about getting her a job at the Museum, that’s not a particularly good look.

      Being a referee for your mistress, bad idea.

      • Colonial Viper 18.1.1

        You’re an idiot. The mayor doesn’t appoint museum PAs.

      • karol 18.1.2

        hahhhahahh – she was made redundant form that museum job in 2008. The Auckland supercity didn’t come into being until 2010.

        • BM 18.1.2.1

          From the article.

          Less than 72 hours after going public with details of her torrid two-year affair, 32-year-old Bevan Chuang has revealed Brown acted as a referee for her when she successfully applied for a job at the council-run art gallery back in August LAST YEAR.

          Hmmmm.

          • karol 18.1.2.1.1

            Oh please, don’t lead me to click on WO’s site without warning. I have read any of his spew. The museum job is in the NZ Herald article today.

            if spew’s claim is true. No that’s not good. Whalespew though, is aiming to hit back after the background of his politically motivated attacks have been exposed. more mud – still a lot flying back all over himself.

  19. Colonial Viper 19

    Men and women have different approaches to describing sex in writing. Any doubts? Just give Mills and Boon a call.

    • karol 19.1

      Yep. There is that tendency. Though, maybe comparisons between women’s and mean’s erotic writings might be more apt.

    • QoT 19.2

      But first, it helps to know that a large number of Mills & Boon authors are men writing under female pseudonyms.

  20. karol 20

    hmmm… so more mud being slung. What a tangled web.

    Chuang’s criminal conviction now being highlighted on the NZ Herald.

    Not a good look that her defence back then was also “I was under pressure”.

    Meanwhile Slater is using a similar line (that Chuang is having difficulty coping with the pressure) in response to her attacks on him.

  21. karol 21

    And Russell Brown asks, “who is paying free lance” journalist Stepehn cook to write about Brown & Chuang”?

  22. ak 22

    Slater: If that was a National MP or a right wing councillor, or a right wing mayor anywhere else in the country, I will run them through just as hard,” he said.

    That’s a will, recorded for posterity in our beloved Gran. Keep those cards and letters rolling in, viewers.

  23. greywarbler 23

    DFTT as I said before, this is getting to be a rolling witch-hunt that does not cast any healthy light on the participants or those that participate in the constant scandal mongering. Don’t be mongrels TS. We don’t want to know what she has done since the year dot.

  24. Varity 24

    players being played …

    i’ve been in two minds about chuang – she had it bad for wedgie and even when her common sense was screaming to her he was using her; she was obviously swayed by a tiny bit of hope he might truely love her. there’s no doubt in my mind slater (what an appropriate name) was in the backgroud egging wedgie on. bet they sent the mysterious texts that tipped her over the edge too. as a woman, a huge softie and a big ole romantic i do feel for how she’s been sorely used by those creeps.

    on the other hand – she is a little minx. she used brown, she has no problem speaking freely of her own sexuality and this latest revalation she’s been convicted of hacking seals it for me. she bit off more than she could chew and is now reaping the consequences.

    i still think len brown, the hypocritical old git, should resign. never liked him anywayz.

    • Murray Olsen 24.1

      OMG!! A 32 year old woman who has no problem speaking freely of her own sexuality!! Where’s our dunking stool? This smells of demonic possession to me.

  25. Alistair 25

    Slater/Lusk/Hooten -aka ‘whaleoil’

    unfortunately we are paying them, through our taxes via the Nact party

  26. lez howard 26

    Brown the Fool .Chuang ,.snake oil and Palino, Decietful right wing Scum. Throw in Banks with that lot as well Dont let this take the heat off him His time is up

  27. So she sells a sleaze story to sleazy whaleoil with all the graphic details, and now she is saying she doesnt want the media attention.

    She reminds of the women who hang out with English premier league soccer players, sell their story to the sun newspaper, and then go on talk shows to moan about how their life is ruined.

    • Enough is Enough 27.1

      I agree.

      There are only two people who knew what went on in the office of the Mayor and the Ngati Whatua room (maybe three if you count old peeoping tom Security man).

      Only one of them had the mind to tell the world about it.

      She is the sleazy one. Not Len. She can cry all she likes now.

    • karol 27.2

      She reminds of the women who hang out with English premier league soccer players, sell their story to the sun newspaper, and then go on talk shows to moan about how their life is ruined.

      Yeah. Same old sexist treatment, where it’s all the women’s fault, and soccer stars remain the stars and the smear monger newspapers make money at every twist and turn.

      • Brett Dale 27.2.1

        Karol:

        No, the soccer players dont sell their stories to the media, they dont go on talk shows, they dont try to make money from the cheating of their wifes, they dont play the victim card, can you see the difference?

      • grumpy 27.2.2

        I have a slight change of mind. This girl has been played along by Wedgie Wee Wee (or whatever his name is). I have just read the txt exchange in the Herald and he has played her like a fool. Why are some women so fragile and insecure that they fall for this shit.
        Couple that with a randy old fool with an Asian fixation, and in the words of the immortal Rogue Trooper “this is not going to end well”.

        • Colonial Viper 27.2.2.1

          AD2000?

        • Varity 27.2.2.2

          there’s no bigger fool than a fool in love. been there, done that, didn’t end well.

          it’s not only women who fall for this strange phenomena though. men are just as vulnerable and gullible at times too.

          i don’t know what makes some so susceptible … maybe it’s some biological, hard-wired quest to find ‘the one’.

          • grumpy 27.2.2.2.1

            Don’t think Len was in love – or her either…..(just part of the Asian fixation and the aphrodisiac of power)…..but it appears she had fallen for Wedgie wee wee. The type of guy my grandparents would have called “a cad”.

        • karol 27.2.2.3

          I pretty much agree with this, grumpy. On the fragility of some women? It’s hard to separate the individual shortcomings from the fact that politics is a pretty macho environment, and a difficult context for most women to negotiate – most seem to go for some comprises/balance between conventionally masculine ways of operating, while accentuating some conventionally feminine strategies.

          • grumpy 27.2.2.3.1

            Have you read the txt exchange between her and Wedgie wee wee? She comes across like a love struck 15 yr old.
            I’m more disturbed by that than her affadavit.

            • lprent 27.2.2.3.1.1

              Wewege comes across as a complete arsehole whose only real interest in her is extracting dirt on Len Brown.

              He is distinctly manipulative, untrustworthy creep. It says quite a lot about John Palino that he’d have such disgusting uncivilised animal working for him.

              Mind you, from what I’ve heard from several sources; Wewege is less of a Wormtongue and more a accurate reflection of John Palino when it comes to women.

              But I can still see the steam bellowing from your ears…

              • grumpy

                Don’t be too tough on him – he is an Aucklander……..

                ….and that’s not steam, it’s my coffee.

                • lprent

                  Yeah right.. Whatever you say..
                  If you are having that much of an overdose of caffeine, then perhaps a good lie-down would be in order.
                  I’d suggest a cold shower, but that may be a little too suggestive.
                  :twisted:

            • karol 27.2.2.3.1.2

              Yes, I read it a few hours back. She comes across to me as someone being put under extreme pressure by someone she cares about. He is trying everything – direct pressure, emotional blackmail. What a sleaze!

          • grumpy 27.2.2.3.2

            FACEBOOK MESSAGE EXCHANGE BETWEEN CHUANG AND WEWEGE:

            25/08/2013

            Chuang: Because I told you he no longer talks to me

            Wewege: That’s why we need him out of office and a Pro bevan person in! :)

            Chuang: But he doesn’t talk to me, how can it work. Night babe X

            Later that day

            Chuang: I absolutely undoubtedly love you. I just don’t know if you do

            Wewege: Not true! You just make me sad sometimes

            Chuang: Because I feel that you only want me to get evidence for this campaign

            Wewege: Not true at all although that would be very nice :)

            27/8/2013

            Wewege: Baby anything on our plan? Please I need good news…

            Chuang: baby you need a new plan

            Wewege: baby you are sooooo mean to me!

            Chuang: I’m just being honest. I’ve told you why it doesn’t work.

            Wewege: baby you are not trying hard enough

            Chuang: I have! Seriously!!!

            Chuang: Your plan would only work if LB talks to me. And please stop asking me.

            Chuang: i can’t get anything from len. text, phone call nothing. So please stop asking and giving me pressure.

            Chuang: And really disapointed with you. All you cared about is how I can help you get incriminating evidence so John could win. You’ve never considered my feelings or situations. Actions speak louder than words. My love for you is unconditional. And if you can’t do that, stop telling me that you love me if you don’t.

            31/8/2013

            Wewege: I literally work 24/7 and something small you know you can do change my life and you won’t do it! :(

            All it is … is just a shrewd of evidence and I promise you are fully protected! Baby I have everything set up people are just waiting for you.

            So close to less stressed Luigi who can lay in bed all weekend with Bevan!!!!!

            Chuang: I can’t get any evidence because he won’t talk to me.

            And it won’t help my future by saying that I’ve been involved in an marital relationship?

            he won’t interact with me at all and you keep pressuring me, blaming that I won’t help, etc.

            it is just like you don’t want to talk to me, won’t listen to me, and won’t believe me. what else can i do

            I don’t mind if your love is conditionally; I don’t mind if you want to take advantages of me; but I mind that you are blaming me on something I have no control of and continue to tell me why I should be punished.

            You are angry with me because I can’t help you with your career. I am heartbroken because you don’t trust me. at least that is how I feel.

            I don’t want to have to cry over this every night. Cry over the fact that I feel like a loser. Cry over the fact that other people seems to care more about me than you do. Cry over the fact that nothing I do will make you happy. Cry over the fct tht you actually don’t love me. Sorry babe. I [heart symbol] you and it is hurting me. Killing me even.

            Wewege: Baby I might have a new plan! :)))))))))))

            Not punishing just felt sad because I thought you weren’t helping that’s all!

            Relax honey still love you!

            6/9/2013

            Wewege: Baby but YOU can change the election!?

            Chuang: No I cant

            I told youa thousand times why and I wont repeat it

            Wewege: Baby there might be something from last year. Pleaaaaase look!

            Chuang: No I don’t. I told you he never sent me text like that. Always verbal

            Wewege: Baby! #youkillingme

            • Tracey 27.2.2.3.2.1

              Is this for real? This guy is worse than awful… he certainly thinks no means yes.

              • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                I think the Auckland Right is in trouble. Oil. Banks. Wewege. They have one thing in common: penis envy.

      • Ennui 27.2.3

        Not so sure Karol: I have a fundamental issue with women (and men) who line up their prospects with somebody of power / influence / money etc by use of the bed or similar.

        Lets face it, women are successful in their own right, as Shipley, Clark, Dalziel, Street, Collins etc etc have shown in spades, None of these women needed to vault up the scale on somebody elses merit: they were good enough to do it themselves. Bevan by comparison looks to have chosen the alternate way for which I cannot respect her.

  28. captain hook 28

    Well when waleshit has had a long term relationship with his right hand and nobody says anything then then this piece of piffle will vanish tomorrow morning.
    who takes the right wing scumblogs seriously anyway?

    • grumpy 28.1

      At least we know Captain Hook won’t be in an intimate relationship with his right hand……maybe the left though……

  29. KJT 29

    Am I alone in thinking that what consenting adults do in the sack is none of the public’s business.

    Time we all grew up and left this prurient tut tutting to American Tabloids.

    Anyone with the slightest bit of decency, and concern for the innocent parties in this case, the other family members, would have refused to publish it.

    I hope the mud sticks to Cook and Slater and all the other holier than thou creeps.

    I would rather not know what politicians do at night.
    The pictures in my head that result, from associating politicians with sex, are not pleasant.

    Anyway it distracts from the real issues. The theft of our country, by National.

    • Brett Dale 29.1

      KJT:

      American tabloids??

      Nope, this sort of stuff is more like the British Tabloids.

      • KJT 29.1.1

        I suppose you are right. . In the States, like NZ tabloid journalism is in so called real newspapers, like the Herald, not just in ” News of the World”..

        • greywarbler 29.1.1.1

          KJT
          I thought you didn’t think it was a good idea to feed this subject? It’s not very encouraging to see the lack of interest here in important political matters. I don’t know how things will ever improve in NZ when all that is needed to distract the attention of the supposed thinking adults, is a pair of scanty panties.

          • karol 29.1.1.1.1

            The thing is, though grey, for us Aucklanders, the outcome of the allegations against Brown will have a significant political impact. The cat is out of the bag, and the anti-democratic motives of the smear mongers need to be kept at the forefront.

            • grumpy 29.1.1.1.1.1

              What do you think of his daughters being paraded to stick up for Len? Talk about bringing your family into it.
              He must be getting awesome PR advice.

  30. lez howard 30

    We could get Christine Keeler and Mandy Rice -davies To do a job on the National party

  31. Red Horse 31

    What about the chaste Mr Brown acting as her referee for the art gallery job? Another shocker from Mr Brown.

    [lprent: No link. Read the policy about trolling. ]

  32. JLLJames 32

    It’s good to know that your defence of Len Brown means you will never again be demanding resignations from anyone for affairs. This sets a great precedent for anyone in public office who wants to have an affair and get away with it no consequences :)

    /b/

    [lprent: Perhaps you should explain *why* you think that having affairs or not having them is a attribute that we should be looking for in our politicians. You also should read the policy because my finger is hovering over the button that says "Ban the stupid troll" who doesn't explain *why* they think. ]

  33. swan 33

    Oh dear, Things just took a big turn for the worse for Len.

    Turns out he gave references for his mistress – when applying for a job at a council controlled entity!!!

    I assume those defending Len will now be calling for his resignation?

    When is the press conference Len?

    [lprent: You are starting to read like a troll with repeated rhetorical questions in your comments that look like they have been copy-pasted. This is your warning. ]

    • Te Reo Putake 33.1

      Do try and keep up. People act as referees all the time. He was one of five referees she used on her CV and Chuang doesn’t think he influenced the outcome in any way.

  34. karol 34

    The responses to the allegations related to Brown providing a reference for Chuang for the Art gallery job, appear to clear Brown of wrong doing. Stuff reports:

    An electoral law expert said that the situation did not appear to show that Brown had breached the local authority legislation, or to have had a conflict of interest.

    “The Auckland Art Gallery is run by a CCO so it is sort of run at arm’s length from the council. So it’s not as though Mayor Len Brown was actually in a position where he would be making decisions to who the Auckland Art Gallery hired,” said James F Dunne, Senior Associate at Chen Palmer law firm.

    “That would be a more classical conflict of interest,” he said.

    It may have been an unwise decision, and the Council would be the judge of whether Brown breached their code of conduct.

    The facts are given are these:

    On 4 July 2011 Brown’s office was contacted by the gallery, a subsidiary of the Auckland Council, and asked if the mayor could provide a reference for her application, according to the mayor’s office.

    The mayor’s diary officer was asked to provide a short response to say that the mayor highly recommended Chuang.

    Chuang was given the position at the art gallery.

    The reference was provided before the sexual relationship had started but Brown had already begun sexual advances towards Chuang, according to an affidavit she had published on the affair.

    He first met Chuang in May 2011 after which Brown began regularly contacting her, texting her twice a day and calling her up to five times a week, according to Chuang.

    The pair began having closed door meetings and it was during one of those meetings in June that Brown kissed Chuang, she said.

    His office provided the reference in July and his advances continued until a sexual relationship began shortly after her birthday in August.

    A spokesperson for Brown said that they did not believe the Mayor had done anything wrong over the job application.

    • tamati 34.1

      It’s still a pretty bad look to provide a reference for someone you’re in a relationship with without disclosing it. The mere fact of having a sitting Mayor as reference would surely hold pretty significant sway in applying for any job.

      • karol 34.1.1

        They weren’t in a relationship when the reference was given.

        • tamati 34.1.1.1

          That’s a pretty subjective point. When a relationship begins is never a simple matter!

          He may not have “consummated” their relationship but he may have been very involved in the “chase” at the time.

          • McFlock 34.1.1.1.1

            So, hypothetically, being slightly attracted to someone amounts to an actual conflict of interest?
            Do you excuse yourself from employment panels or other work activities just because the other person is attractive to you? If not, by your logic you should be fired.

            • tamati 34.1.1.1.1.1

              I think Mr Brown had gone well past the point of being slightly attracted to someone. My point is, just because he hadn’t yet fucked her, doesn’t mean there was no relationship yet. Clearly he was trying to impress her, and maybe getting her the job was finally enough for her to …

              The devil is in the detail.

          • karol 34.1.1.1.2

            Yes. That’s where the criticism of it being “unwise” comes in. It also depends on how the reference request came about and when? Was the job application submitted before Brown started the “chase”? Did he offer the reference as part of a seduction line? Did she ask for the reference, playing on her attraction for him?

            Once the reference request arrives in his office, how does he decline without being able to give a good reason? It could have made her unfairly look like a dodgy employment prospect. In the end he seems to have opted for a brief recommendation, issued at arms length by his office.

            I do think his behaviour generally in relation to Chuang was unwise, and irresponsible, but it doesn’t look like he’s breached any significant rules/laws related to conflict of interest.

            • tamati 34.1.1.1.2.1

              Agree entirely. It’s all about the details. Just because he hadn’t fucked her, doesn’t excuse him from having any conflict of interest.

              It’s clearly in an ethical grey area.

            • McFlock 34.1.1.1.2.2

              If humans had to exclude ourselves from every decision on the basis that an involved person is attractive, nothing would ever get done.

        • Tracey 34.1.1.2

          june they began… august she began at art gallery… happy to be shown to be wrong

        • swan 34.1.1.3

          According to Chuang’s affidavit they had become intimate by then. Are you suggesting full penetration is the important fact here?

  35. gobsmacked 35

    Sometimes there’s so much noise that the core truth gets lost. So, here it is, from the Facebook conversation between Wewege and Chuang, quoted above (h/t Grumpy):

    Palino’s right-hand man says:

    I have everything set up people are just waiting for you.

    Smoking gun, aimed at head. Only the chronically stupid or wilfully insincere can ignore what happened here.

    • grumpy 35.1

      Yep, that exchange shows a lot. The woman was shamefully used, first by Len and then the sleasebags fucked her over again. Still, they didn’t invent the story, just sold it in the best possible way to their own ends. There is a special place in hell reserved for arseholes like Wedgie wee wee.

      Wow, Rogue Trooper 2 days ago “this is not going to end well” had it sussed.

      • wtl 35.1.1

        Huh? In what way the Len Brown ‘use’ her? He had a consenting sexual relationship with her. And then the relationship ended.

  36. TheContrarian 36

    No one gets away clean in this mess. From Len to Whale, Chuang to Palino.
    They are all up in it to their ears.

    • karol 36.1

      Some are up deeply in the mud more than others.

      • grumpy 36.1.1

        True….but it is Len’s mud.

        • karol 36.1.1.1

          Correction, it’s WO’s mud. He tends to fight dirty.

          Anyway, Doug McKay is announcing an inquiry into whether Brown breached the Council’s code of conduct and conflict of interest policies. it’ll probably all come out in the wash.

          • grumpy 36.1.1.1.1

            Yep, WO certainly moulded it into a bloody fine looking statue but the “mud” was entirely created by Len.

            • karol 36.1.1.1.1.1

              Not entirely. It was also created by Palino’s team, WO and C(r)ook.

              If we do get a re-election, it may actually work in the favour of the left. Palino and Brewer’s team are now looking a little murky now.

            • Rogue Trooper 36.1.1.1.1.2

              All the Classic Hits

    • McFlock 37.1

      ah, ok – I stand corrected. Time to flip it through the council mechanisms to deal with such things.

  37. grumpy 38

    I’ve figured out where Len went wrong……
    He should have used the Bill Clinton defence…..
    “I did not have sex with that woman”
    That should do it.

  38. Tracey 39

    Brett

    unkess you have clinically examined those you say are or arent my view is as valid as yours. They dont have to have every trait to qualify.

    all

    funny to see luigi and whale essentially calling chuang a liar… except for where she supports their view of course.

  39. ak 40

    Noticed the eerie silence from Hooters, Wedgie, Boagie & Associates of late?

    And the Slipper has shuffled off at the speed of light.

    Guess the Slugspawn was useful when he pasted our most-ever popular PM’s head onto porn and published it to the world, but this particular shit-chicken could come back to roost in a number of very smelly ways.

    Poor old Nat-Zed Herald lads eh. Eeny meany. Keep dribbling blatant Right-wing excrement like a drunk teenager, or revert to demented tory bombast?

    Downhill either way, chaps. The slow decrepitude slope again, or sink quick in your own latrine.

  40. karol 41

    Boag actually had an NZ Herald op ed in supporting Brown to stay as Mayor today.

    Len Brown has to live with his personal failure – his image will never recover with those who feel strongly about that – but as ratepayers, we expect him to do the job he has been put there to do.

    I am certain that the events of the past few days will ensure he will strive even harder to do that job. I certainly hope so.

    • Tracey 41.1

      Boag unlike colin espiner is prolly grown up enough to know that many MPs have had extra maritals and so she wont get holier than thou… unlike espiner

  41. Chris 42

    Still wondering why this is getting so much blog time.

    Wasn’t going to comment on the issue, but having read almost every post on TS I am at a loss to understand why this is “predominantly” Len’s fault.

    Personally I see it as a 30yr old woman looking at ways to feather her nest, bonking the boss is one way of going about it. Unfortunately for her she lost, and most unfortunately for Len Brown she lost.

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 42.1

      Len has two issues to deal with in this matter.

      1. If sex at the office is OK for him then it cannot be a sacking offence for others.

      2. Smashing the Tory maggots.

      • Anne 42.1.1

        If sex at the office is OK for him then it cannot be a sacking offence for others.

        So, what you’re saying is that half the managers, lawyers, public service bosses, politicians etc. etc. in the country should be sacked? There would hardly be anyone left to run the country, courts, corporate bodies, councils, government agencies and so on….

        • Private baldric 42.1.1.1

          If as you say everyone is fucking everyone else why can’t I get any … apart from my dear old turnip that is.

        • One Anonymous Knucklehead 42.1.1.2

          No. I’m saying that Len has been very indiscreet. The “security” “guard” in Thomas Hauk’s position: at what point do they experience sexual harassment?

          To put it another way: if workplace affairs are endemic, cui bono?

      • Private baldric 42.1.2

        I’m thinking of going to the Town hall and giving him a facial myself.

  42. karol 43

    Well, there are issues. 3 News was really beating up Brown’s job being on the line with the inquiry.

    My interpretation of the inquiry was that McKay had to do the enquiry to ensure no rules had been breached.

    3 News reckoned Chris Tremain had some inside knowledge of an up-coming sacking. This is because Tremain had a paper of typed notes headed something like “Lines about Len Brown”.

    Maybe Chris has got wind of something? Or is it what many have long suspected – the Nats’ hierarchy feeds whale spew his lines?

    • Anne 43.1

      3 News reckoned Chris Tremain had some inside knowledge of an up-coming sacking. This is because Tremain had a paper of typed notes headed something like “Lines about Len Brown”.

      Their research unit has issued them with a list of lines to use if any journo or constituent (or whoever) approaches them with a question on the subject. A kind of [insert name here] type document to be used for public consumption.

      You have to remember the average Nat. MP is too thick to be trusted to work out for themselves what is best to say…

      3 News is in the game of dragging supposedly salacious goss from anything they can find – a TV version of a gutter tabloid.

      • Private baldric 43.1.1

        A bit like certain green MPs then ?

      • karol 43.1.2

        Actually pausing the video of it (at about 48 – 50 secs), shows that it’s notes about what the legal situation is if Len Brown resigns. The first line is about a by election, and mentions an electoral act. It mentions the deputy mayor Penny Hulse. I can’t read it all.

        • tinfoilhat 43.1.2.1

          If Brown resigning means that Penny Hulse becomes Mayor can we please encourage him to resign ASAP.

          • karol 43.1.2.1.1

            That’s my thoughts. But I think it probably just means she would be acting mayor while the by election was held – I think there’s a caveat about her needing the support of councillors.

            I recall micky said a while back she doesn’t have the money/funds to run for mayor. Does that mean only someone with a reasonable amount of personal wealth can run for the job?

            • Colonial Viper 43.1.2.1.1.1

              If you can’t find a minimum $200,000 for an Auckland mayoral campaign stay in bed, because you’ll have no chance. Or use the money and buy a house in Whakatane.

    • Pascal's bookie 43.2

      That piece of paper was probably talking points. Lines to use given certain events. In and of themselves, meaningless.

  43. Rogue Trooper 44

    Weird Scenes Inside The Goldmine (did he Love Her Madly?) won’t see the film, will wait for the book to come out: 50 Shades of Brown (may not be an original title, a bit dog-eared and sticky). :-D

  44. 17 October 2013

    Statement by 2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate Penny Bright on the ‘Len Brown affair – turning a bad thing into a good thing’ .

    I believe that consenting adults make their own rules.

    However, if a relationship is supposed to be based upon monogamy and mutual exclusivity, and that trust is breached, there will be repercussions, and likely unintended consequences for both the parties directly involved and innocent third parties.

    Those who stand, and particularly if elected for public office, are effectively in a public ‘goldfish bowl’, and tend to find out the hard way that private indiscretions can become a huge public embarrassment, for both themselves and their families.

    However, there is a difference, in my opinion, between morality and legality.

    Should Len Brown stand down as Auckland Mayor because of his two year extra-marital affair, which has come as quite a shock to a large number of people (including myself)?

    As it currently stands legally, in my opinion, provided there has been no misuse of public monies to finance in any way, this unfortunate affair, then my answer is no.

    ‘Conduct’ of Auckland Council elected representatives is covered by the Auckland Council ‘Code of Conduct’, which is, in my considered opinion, a gutless creature, with no statutory teeth for proven ‘misconduct’.

    http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/SiteCollectionDocuments/aboutcouncil/governingbody/codeofconductelectedmembers.pdf

    “5. Key Principles

    5.1. Introduction

    This Code of Conduct is based on a number of key principles.

    It defines standards of conduct that meet these principles and statutory provisions applicable to local government activities.

    The principles underpin and guide these standards and may be used as an aid in interpreting the substantive provisions of the Code.

    5.2. Honesty and Integrity

    Members have a duty to act honestly and with integrity at all times.

    5.3. Public Interest

    Members have a duty to make decisions in the public interest.

    They must not act in order to gain financial or other benefits for themselves, their families, friends or business interests. This means making decisions because they benefit the public, not because they
    benefit the decision maker.

    5.4. Declare private interests

    Members must declare any private interests or personal benefits relating to their public duties and take steps to resolve any conflicts of interest in such a way that protects the public interest. This means fully disclosing actual or potential conflicts of interest; avoiding any financial or other obligation to any individual or organisation that might reasonably be thought to influence them in the performance of their duties.

    5.5. Impartiality

    Members should make decisions on merit and in accordance with their statutory obligations when carrying out public business. This includes the making of appointments, awarding of contracts or recommending individuals for rewards or benefits. This means fairness to all; impartial assessment; merit selection in appointments and in purchase and sale of council’s resources; considering only relevant matters.

    5.6. Accountability

    Members are accountable to the public for their decisions and actions and should consider issues on their merits, taking into account the views of others. This means co-operating fully and honestly with the scrutiny appropriate to their particular office.

    5.7. Openness

    Members should be as open as possible about their actions and those of the Council and should be prepared to justify their actions. This includes approaching decision-making with an open mind and a willingness to listen to differing points of view. This means giving reasons for decisions; communicating clearly; not being close minded and taking personal ownership of comments made publicly.

    5.8. Respect

    Members should treat others, including council officers, with respect at all times. This means not using derogatory terms towards others, or about others, including in public facing new media; not misrepresenting the statements or actions of others (whether they be other individual members, the Governing Body, Local Boards, committees or officers); observing the rights of other people; treating people with courtesy, and recognising the different roles others play in local government decision-making.

    5.9. Duty to Uphold the Law

    Members should uphold the law and, on all occasions, act in accordance with the trust the public places in them.

    5.10. Stewardship

    Members should ensure that the Council uses resources prudently and for lawful purposes, and that the Council maintains sufficient resources to meet its statutory obligations.

    5.11. Leadership

    Members should promote and support these principles by example.”
    _____________________________________________________________________________

    A breach of this Code of Conduct is NOT an offence under the Local Government Act 2002.
    _____________________________________________________________________________

    “8.8. Responses to Breaches of the Code

    To avoid doubt, a breach of the Code of Conduct does not constitute an offence under the Local Government Act 2002. The exact nature of the action the governing body/local board may take depends on the nature of the breach and whether there are statutory provisions
    dealing with the breach. ”
    _____________________________________________________________________________

    This ‘Code of Conduct’ may be effectively useless, but at least local government elected representatives have one, unlike elected representatives at NZ central government level, who do not.

    Which is arguably rather incredible in this country which is ‘perceived’ to be ‘the least corrupt country in the world’ (along with Denmark and Finland, according to the 2012 Transparency International ‘Corruption Perception Index’.

    http://www.transparency.org/cpi2012/results

    In my considered opinion, as a proven ‘anti-corruption Public Watchdog’, I believe it is time for ENFORCEABLE ‘Codes of Conduct’ for both local and central NZ elected representatives.

    During the 2013 Auckland Mayoral campaign, I called for enforceable ‘Codes of Conduct’ in my ACTION PLAN against ‘white collar’ crime, corruption and ‘corporate welfare’:

    http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ANTI-CORRUPTION-WHITE-COLLAR-CRIME-CORPORATE-WELFARE-ACTION-PLAN-Ak-Mayoral-campaign-19-July-2013-2.pdf

    ” 4. Legislate for an enforceable ‘Code of Conduct’ for NZ Members of Parliament (who make the rules for everyone else).

    5. Make it an offence under the Local Government Act 2002 for NZ Local Government elected representatives to breach their ‘Code of Conduct’.”

    We need go no further than Australia to see examples of enforceable ‘Codes of Conduct’ for those elected to public office.

    For example – Australia – New South Wales:

    MODEL CODE OF CONDUCT for Local Councils in NSW

    http://www.dlg.nsw.gov.au/dlg/dlghome/documents/Information/Model%20Code%20of%20Conduct.pdf

    Code of Conduct for Members and ICAC (NSW Parliament)

    http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/publications.nsf/key/LABP11
    ___________________________________________________________________________

    Queensland – Local Government

    http://www.cmc.qld.gov.au/research-and-publications/browse-by-topic-1/local-government

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    It is now time to learn the lessons, and get such legislation in place, to help remind elected representatives that private indiscretions may have both political and legal consequences.

    In New Zealand – we need enforceable ‘Codes of Conduct’ at both local and central government level.

    The time has come – this is long overdue.

    Penny Bright

    ‘Anti-corruption /anti-privatisation Public Watchdog’

    2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate

    • karol 45.1

      Thanks for the legal opinion, Penny. Yes the code of conduct should hold mayor’s too account for their behaviour on the job.

      It sounds like, under the current code of conduct, unless Brown is found to have misused council money while having the affair, then he does not need to resign.

      All hangs on McKay’s inquiry.

      • tinfoilhat 45.1.1

        If he had any respect for himself or his family, or any sense of guilt or scrap of humility he wouldn’t need a code of conduct to point him in the right direction he would have resigned some time ago.

        • karol 45.1.1.1

          Interesting phone poll result on Campbell Live tonight. Usually I expect such results to be skewed to conservatism.

          The question: Should Brown resign: yes or no. I was expecting a Lenslide for him resigning – especially after the main 3 News item tonight made things look bleak for Brown

          It was
          51% yes-resign
          49% no – don’t resign

          And Campbell said that’s the closest vote they’ve ever had in their polls.

          Maybe some rightees realise a by election may result in a more left wing mayor, as Palino and Brewer don’t look so great?

        • Zorr 45.1.1.2

          Thanks for bringing your black and white paint to the Paint-by-the-numbers lynching of one Len Brown

          In all honesty, life is a complicated mess and we all fuck up. Just because he is employed in the public sphere doesn’t mean that his personal fuck ups should have professional ramifications beyond the current difficulty of maintaining his ratings.

          If a high profile Crown lawyer had an extra-marital affair that became public knowledge, would you be pushing for disbarment?

          No? Neither would I and the same is true here. Unless there has been professional misconduct then Len should remain mayor.

          • tinfoilhat 45.1.1.2.1

            1. Are crown lawyers voted in by the public
            2. Would a crown lawyer be fired for the kind of behaviour len brown indulged in on public time and in his/her place of employment
            3. Would a crown lawyer be censured for bringing his profession/employer into disrepute.

            I am not arguing for Len Brown not to be allowed to run for elected office (which is your disbarment argument harpooned), I am saying he should resign and let the voting public decide whether they want him in the job or not.

            I didn’t vote for him and I certainly wouldn’t next time around… but if the voters decide they want him to remain that’s their right and democracy in action.

            • Colonial Viper 45.1.1.2.1.1

              1. Are crown lawyers voted in by the public

              Irrelevant. Would you fire a local board member for screwing on the job even though they got the job done?

              2. Would a crown lawyer be fired for the kind of behaviour len brown indulged in on public time and in his/her place of employment

              Mayor of Auckland is a 24/7 job. No sex then?

              3. Would a crown lawyer be censured for bringing his profession/employer into disrepute.

              If it was serious enough, of course. But it would have to be sky high severity for a firing offence.

            • felix 45.1.1.2.1.2

              “I didn’t vote for him and I certainly wouldn’t next time around… but if the voters decide they want him to remain that’s their right and democracy in action.”

              Pretty sure they already decided.

              Are you asking for a “best of three” or something?

      • fender 45.1.2

        Mary Wilson interviewed Slater on RNZ, he said contracts had been awarded to a company that Chuang has links to and suggested wrong-doing by Len in awarding those contracts.

        • Chooky 45.1.2.1

          @ fender …interesting!…question is whether Chuang has had a corrupting influence on any Auckland City decisions made by the Mayor

          ….if she has then maybe he should resign..otherwise ‘no’

      • Penny Bright 45.1.3

        Karol – a breach of the Auckland Council ‘Code of Conduct’ is NOT an ‘offence’ under the Local Government Act 2002.

        If it’s not an offence – there are effectively no penalties – that’s my clear understanding.

        (Please remember that I am NOT a lawyer, and am NOT giving legal advice (as such) just my considered opinion as an individual who has had some success as a ‘lay litigant’, and bothers to read the legislation / ‘Codes of Conduct’ etc, and think for myself.)

        So – MR ‘CONFLICT OF INTEREST’ himself, Auckland Council CEO Doug McKay, who is a member of the unelected private lobby group – the Committee for Auckland, is going to make a decision about Len Brown’s ‘conflicts of interest’?

        Give me a break…… (You couldn’t make this stuff up – SERIOUSLY?)

        How many Auckland Council and Auckland Council CCO contracts are going to member companies of the Committee for Auckland?

        http://www.committeeforauckland.co.nz/membership/member-organisations

        Doug McKay Chief Executive Officer Auckland Council

        Wake up folks!

        Where is the money going and who is benefiting?

        I predict that Auckland Council CEO Doug McKay will find that Len Brown has done nothing that should result in his being forced to stand down as Mayor.

        We shall see………

        Penny Bright

        • karol 45.1.3.1

          Thanks, Penny. I tend to agree with you on the likely outcome. I’m in two minds – I’df like another election with a more truly left popular candidate.

        • muzza 45.1.3.2

          Well picked up Penny.

  45. felix 46

    Oh dear. It appears Slater has “become the story”.

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    • karol 46.1

      heh. yeah. And at the end of the interview, under pressure of Wilson’s questions, he throws out another fairly wild accusation about companies Chuang worked for. Needled.

  46. Sorry – I don’t share your faith in Penny Hulse (and have raised this with her).

    This is from 2010.

    http://www.vote.co.nz/2010/candidates/penny-hulse-3621

    Commercial Activities

    I think the endorsement of my campaign for Auckland Council by Sir Ron Carter speaks volumes about my commitment and ability to look after business interests.

    Ron says “Our city needs Councillors who will apply their knowledge and experience for the good of all. A great Council team will be built from those who respect and commit to each other.
    Penny’s wisdom and consensus style will help create a Council for all Aucklanders.
    We need her on our Council.”

    Sir Ron Carter was at that time the Chair of the Committee for Auckland, and is now their ‘Patron’.

    http://www.committeeforauckland.co.nz/membership/member-organisations

    Sir Ron Carter Patron, Committee for Auckland
    ___________________________________________________________________________

    Who has been ‘front-footing’ the Auckland Unitary Plan?

    Penny Hulse.

    Who are arguably the main beneficiaries of the Auckland Unitary Plan?

    Property developers, speculators and overseas investors – in my considered opinion.

    Sorry folks – but I WILL ‘seek truth from facts’ and call it as I see it.

    I don’t expect everyone to like it.

    Penny Bright
    Public Watchdog / ‘Whistleblower’

    • tinfoilhat 47.1

      No surprise that Beca picks up a huge proportion of auckland and government building programmes.

      It’s all rotten from top to bottom, just look at the transport bosses for Auckland who have been stood down on suspicion of serious fraud and awarding of contracts to mates.

      • karol 47.1.1

        Oh. Well I would like to see the whole Auckland Council infrastructure redesigned to be more democratic.

        Until then….?

  47. Tanz 48

    Bevan is young and vulnerable and it sounds like she was led up the garden patth. I feel sorry for her.
    Banks will be jailed? I doubt it.

  48. Tracey 49

    felix wrote

    oh dear it appears slater has become the story

    agreed, hence my post about narcissism…. brett protests on this one too much.

  49. Murray Olsen 50

    I can’t help wondering how all this would go down if a woman holding high office was outed having an affair with a younger person. We’ve got a long way to go, and a lot of bullshit prejudices to get rid of.
    As for Bevan Chuang – my initial impression was that she was overly ambitious and probably calculating in her behaviour. Now I’ve tempered that and think that, while it probably was an element (she is after all a NAct), there’s also an element of a lonely and vulnerable youngish woman looking for love in all the wrong places. We really do need to get rid of the binary classification of women, where they are either “virtuous maidens” or “filthy sluts”. They are human beings, and like most human beings except for Slug Boy WhaleSpew and his handlers, they fit all along the spectrum. And when I meet god, I’ll thank her for that.

    Now let’s build a left that can take power.

  50. Young Bevan says she cast a vote for Len Brown and you believe it? Doesn’t our electoral system ensure a confidential, private vote? And didn’t Nixon say that he had no involvement in Watergate? Get your heads out of the sands and read http://www.archiebutterfly.com so that the comments you make may be informed by some facts rather than the rantings of the incriminated.

  51. BrucetheMoose 52

    If the Two Johnnies were implicated in a Columbian drug cartel bust, the media would still be more fixated in Brown’s bedroom antics and Miss Chuang’s lingerie spread.

  52. Neville Cameron 53

    Forget Cook and Slater, they are of no real consequence.
    The whole debacle reflects badly on everyone concerned, the real damage for Brown will arise if the hotels were paid for by the Council=ratepayers.
    Palino and Wewegee should be deported to the USA where they can rejoin the Tea Party.
    And they can take Key and his Casino.
    Presumably next, Ms. Chuang will be trying to sell Crafar farms or the Auckland Museum.
    Something may be rotten in the state of Denmark, but our current debacle outsmells any nominal democracy.

  53. Michelle 54

    What a revolting walking Asian cleshay the Beaven creator is. An affair with two men, then didn’t get what she wanted from either of them so she coughs to the media. this is an example of a fem fatal using men for personal gain. Go back to filthy China, yo’re not wanted herehere

    [lprent: racist moron banned - I have a certain amount of animosity against fools. I don't want fuckwits like you polluting either this site nor this world. Return to whatever smelly sewer you were spawned in. Stay there and leave all of the decent folk so they don't have read about your mental defects. ]

    • insider 54.1

      Ah the left shows it’s true xenophobic face again

      • Te Reo Putake 54.1.1

        The left? You’re having a laugh.

        • insider 54.1.1.1

          The nz left do seem to have an unhealthy obsession with the Chinese. If she’s a rightie, I apologise to y’all :-)

          • karol 54.1.1.1.1

            It’s not the racism and sexism is more like something from KB or WO’s blog comments – not the sort of comment that usually comes from left wingers here.

            • insider 54.1.1.1.1.1

              Well the anti Chinese bit is fairly standard. I’ll accept Michelle’s comment was kind of outta left field (excuse puns)

              • karol

                Really, insider? Citations please, or maybe you should withdraw and apologise.

                I have not seen anti-Chinese comments from lefties. I have seen comments about foreign (non-resident) ownership of NZ business and property that righties claim is all about being “anti-Chinese”. But that is nothing like the blanket negative qualities about Chinese people and women in Michelle’s comment.

                • insider

                  In my experience standardistas and labour’s xenophobia tends to be most animated when it comes to issues involving Chinese. As I said, Michelle’s comment was out of left field (in terms of focusing on an individual’s race).

                  [lprent: links. Banned until you can link to someone making racially bigoted comments about an individual as 'Michelle' just did... Or just being rascist

                  In my view you are as much of a moronic bigot as 'Michelle' - so I will treat you as one. ]

                  • felix

                    Examples please.

                  • insider

                    hmmm, banned for saying a comment was actually unusual because it focussed on an individual’s race…

                    [lprent: So I guess you cannot find any links to back up what you asserted?

                    Yesterday you twice stated something as fact that you have NO proof for and forced me (and others) to request you to link to some proof. Here, here, here and here.

                    Since the second one was a swipe at the site and those who comment from the left. Well you know the policy about attacking the site. So my assumption was that you don't want to comment here. It is fine by me to add you to auto-spam. You don't exactly contribute much that is of any particular value. ]

              • felix

                Fairly standard?

                What do you mean? Standard here? From lefties on this site?

                Examples please.

                edit: Snap!

    • bad12 54.2

      What a shit comment you write, i know plenty of Noo Zealnd girls that have the same sexual habits as Ms Chuang and they will quite happily use ‘sexual favor’ as a tool in everyday life,

      Ms Chuang’s behavior may be condemned via your personal moral code but please keep your bullshit racism to yourself, Ms Chuang’s behavior is not confined nor defined by Her race…

    • Huginn 54.3

      Your timely moderation in this is very much appreciated, lprent

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    No Right Turn | 19-09
  • The story’s not done yet – a final post
    I think I'm going to skip the office sweepstake. I just don't know and I don't think anyone knows because undecideds, turnout and late movement could make a huge difference. This election campaign has simply been so volatile I think...
    Pundit | 19-09
  • Poll of Polls update – 19 September 2014
    It’s time for the final pre-election Poll of Polls update! We’ve had the last Herald Digipoll and Fairfax Ipsos poll results this morning, so we’re good to go. (If Roy Morgan suddenly publish a three-day poll this afternoon, then bugger...
    Occasionally erudite | 19-09
  • John Key’s Top 69 Lies: Today no. 1 – I promise I will always be h...
    John Key on HonestyTranscript: 22nd September, 2008Paul Henry: Do you promise you’ll never do that (mislead the public) if you become the prime minister? John Key: I do promise I’ll never do that.Paul Henry: Do you promise you will always be honest.John...
    Arch Rival | 19-09
  • Rail and congestion relief
    A conference by the Traffic Institute – a group primarily made up of councillors and officers from a number of local authorities around the country to represent views on road safety and traffic management – held its annual conference earlier this...
    Transport Blog | 19-09
  • Last Minute Election Prediction – Percentages and Who I believe Will Be T...
    Just 30 hours or so until we start hearing the results of this years general election here in beautiful New Zealand.  Most intelligent Kiwis are determined this year to get out and vote out the incompetent, dishonest and obviously corrupt...
    An average kiwi | 19-09
  • The Giant Strolls Out to Gaze Upon His Handiwork
    A little historical perspective on the eve of the Election for your mild amusement.....The Evening Post's immediate post-Election coverage in 1908:"All the long day that giant called "the people" worked his will upon the candidates, and in the evening he...
    Sub zero politics | 19-09
  • Ending “scientific” whaling
    Last night at a meeting in Slovenia, the International Whaling Commission closed the "scientific" whaling loophole, voting by a clear majority to enforce the International Court of Justice's ruling and require that such whaling actually be done for science. Future...
    No Right Turn | 19-09
  • Meanwhile, in Bomberland
    Today, Bomber hit back at this week’s MaoriTV poll which shows Te Tai Tokerau going down to the wire. Hit back, I say! His counter-evidence is a different poll of Te Tai Tokerau voters, by an independent polling outfit I'...
    Polity | 18-09
  • Will Judith Collins cost John Key his third term?
    So, apparently there will be an election tomorrow. If you haven't yet voted, you should do so by 7pm tomorrow. Otherwise one of the Electoral Commission's kill squads will hunt you down and leave your body lying in the street...
    Pundit | 18-09
  • All Over Bar the Shouting ?: My Predictions for the 2014 New Zealand Genera...
    So it's come to this, has it ?Having made extravagant promises in previous posts about completing a detailed Two-Parter analysing Poll support for each party in the 18-month run-up to the last two Elections and then, building on that analysis,...
    Sub zero politics | 18-09
  • 2014 General Election: Chris Trotter’s Prediction
    Your vote is your voice  - use it and be heard! National: 43.5%Labour: 27.4%Greens: 13.5%NZ First: 8.0%Conservative Party 4.0%Maori Party: 1.0%Internet-Mana: 1.0%Act Party: 0.5%United Future: 0.1%Others: 1.0%This posting is exclusive to the Bowalley Road blogsite....
    Bowalley Road | 18-09
  • Hard News: A call from Curia
    The phone rang last night and when I picked it up, a young woman said "Hi, is Russell there please?" It turned out that we didn't know each other. She was working the phones for Curia Research, the National Party's...
    Public Address | 18-09
  • Vandal
    It was great to have the chance to write "5 new taxes" on the Labour bus in Birkenhead just now. #WorkingforNZ pic.twitter.com/iBGgccM3Ap— Jonathan Coleman (@jcolemanmp) September 18, 2014...
    The Jackal | 18-09
  • Our democracy is at stake
    Another day, another story about the National government's corrupt abuse of the OIA - this time from Customs:A former high-ranking Customs lawyer says he resigned from his job after allegedly being told to bury information that could embarrass the Government....
    No Right Turn | 18-09
  • Election down to a knife edge
    Based on an average of the last four polls, and my prediction about who will retain their electorate seats, here's what the MMP seat calculator shows:I've kept United Future's Peter Dunne in as I believe the boundary changes in Ōhariu will...
    The Jackal | 18-09
  • Age is a number
    The polls have closed in Scotland and the count has started. Aside from the excitement of a nation voting on whether or not to become independent (peacefully!), there are a few other quirks about the referendum that have drawn notice....
    The little pakeha | 18-09
  • Last Poll of Polls
    Three new polls in the last 24 hours, five in the last few days. One day to go. And here’s where the Polity Poll of Polls puts things: National: 47.8% Labour: 25.4% Greens: 12.4% NZ First: 6.7% Conservatives: 3.9% InternetMANA:...
    Polity | 18-09
  • Maritime Union backs change of Government to put workers first
    A change of Government is required to deliver secure jobs and decent wages for New Zealand workers....
    MUNZ | 18-09
  • New Zealand maritime workers support PNG Coalition for Good Jobs
    The Maritime Union of New Zealand is backing the Coalition for Good Jobs in PNG, made up of PNG unions campaigning keep public assets in public ownership....
    MUNZ | 18-09
  • Hold fast to your Mana – Harawira
    Hone Harawira today called on the voters of Tai Tokerau to hold fast to their mana, and not be dictated to by those party leaders who have ganged together to tell them how to vote. “I call on our people...
    Mana | 18-09
  • Media Advisory – Interview availability
    This is to advise all media that Hone Harawira will be available in Auckland tomorrow, Friday the 19th of September from 7am to 4pm for interviews relating to his recent press releases. If you are interested in interviewing Mr Harawira on...
    Mana | 18-09
  • Labour stands on proud record on Suffrage Day
    Women have come a long way in the 121 years since New Zealand became the first country to give them the vote on September 19 1893, but there is still more to do, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Carol Beaumont says....
    Labour | 18-09
  • Polling Booths asked to treat Maori voters with respect
    “Polling booths without Maori roll voting papers, Maori people not being offered assistance to vote, people getting sent from Whangarei to Wellsford to vote, Maori people getting turned away from voting because they didn’t have their ‘easy vote’ card, Maori...
    Mana | 17-09
  • Aussie Liberals embroiled in Key campaign
    John Key needs to explain why Australia’s Liberal Party is interfering in New Zealand domestic politics and is encouraging Kiwi voters across the ditch to vote for National just days out from the election, Labour’s campaign spokesperson Annette King says....
    Labour | 17-09
  • The MANA Plan for Beneficiaries and Income in Waiariki
    Median Personal Income for Waiariki is $21,700. Over 13,000 Maori who live in Waiariki rely upon a form of government benefit including the Unemployment Benefit, Sickness Benefit, Domestic Purpose Benefit and the Invalids Benefit. “If you’re lucky enough to have...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Māori development crucial to New Zealand’s future
    Labour recognises the concern of Māori about child poverty and the rising costs of living, and in Government will make a real difference to the wellbeing of whānau and iwi, Labour’s Māori Affairs spokesperson Nanaia Mahuta says. “As our Māori...
    Labour | 16-09
  • MAORI PARTY – DON’T COMPLAIN … WALK
    “If the Maori Party are serious about stopping government spying on NZ citizens then they should tell the Prime Minister to either stop doing it or they will walk away” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira, on...
    Mana | 16-09
  • JOHN KEY SUPPORTING LABOUR
    “There is something really sick about a National Party Prime Minister coming out in support of a Labour candidate” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira, after hearing that John Key is urging voters to back Labour in...
    Mana | 16-09
  • SHUT DOWN THIS GOVT NOT KAITI WINZ – Nikora
    “I’m going to make it as hard for you to get help as I can” is Paula Bennett’s message to the people of Kaiti  said MANA candidate Te Hāmua Nikora today in response to the news that National will close...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Winegums make for better polling – Harawira
    I wanted to laugh when I saw the Native Affairs poll the other night (Hone Harawira 38%, Kelvin Davis 37%) because it was almost the same as the one they did back in 2011”, said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau...
    Mana | 16-09
  • The Leadership of MTS Lied – Harawira
    “Normally I’m happy to tell people that I was right but when I received the news about the staff cuts at Maori Television, I had nothing but sympathy for the three Maori media leaders who are going to be made...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Privileges Complaint Laid against Prime Minister – Harawira
    MANA Movement Leader and Te Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira has today lodged a Privileges Complaint with the Speaker regarding the Prime Ministers denials in parliament that he knew anything about Kim Dotcom before 2012. “Information made public today appears...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Sharples’ new appointments are out of order
    The new appointments to the Waitangi Tribunal announced by Dr Pita Sharples this morning are completely out of order given the election is just five days away, says Labour's State Services spokesperson, Maryan Street. “This Government continues to show disdain...
    Labour | 15-09
  • MANA Movement Housing Policy
    “When families are living in cars, garages, cockroach-infested caravans and three families to a house then we have a housing crisis”, said MANA leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira. “When you have a housing crisis for low-income...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Bigger than the Foreshore and Seabed – Sykes
    “Over the past week I have received some disturbing information that has led myself and a number of Maori lawyers to conclude that this National - Maori Party - ACT and United Future Government are going to put an end to both...
    Mana | 14-09
  • MANA wants Te Reo Māori petition fulfilled
    Hone Harawira, MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Annette Sykes, MANA candidate for Waiariki Te Hāmua Nikora, MANA candidate for Ikaroa Rāwhiti  “More than four decades have passed and the petition calling for Te Reo Māori in schools...
    Mana | 14-09
  • Primary focus on the critical issues
    A Labour Government will prioritise New Zealand’s agricultural sectors by recreating a Rural Affairs Minister and appointing a Primary Industry Council and a Chief Agricultural Adviser. Releasing Labour’s Primary Sector and Rural Affairs policies today, spokesperson Damien O’Connor says the...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Maori Television fears confirmed – Harawira
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    Mana | 12-09
  • More ghost houses from National
    The Government’s desperate pre-election announcement of more ghost houses won’t fool Aucklanders wanting action on the housing crisis, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “These are ghost houses, to go with National’s ghost tax cut. Families cannot live in ghost...
    Labour | 12-09
  • National bows to union pressure over travel time
    National has reluctantly bowed to pressure from unions and adopted Labour’s fair and sensible policy to pay home support workers for the time they spend traveling between clients, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. “This decision is long overdue...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Predators on Poverty – Harawira
    “As poverty has ballooned out of control, the Predators on Poverty have emerged to suck the lifeblood from whole families and communities” said MANA Movement leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira. “They are deliberately targeting low-income areas, particularly those...
    Mana | 11-09
  • MANA Movement Policy Launch
    Predators on Poverty (pokie machines, alcohol outlets and loan sharks) 1pm, Thursday 11th September Corner Great South Road and Criterion Street Otahuhu Shopping Centre...
    Mana | 10-09
  • Eliminating Poverty – Sir Edmund Hillary Collegiate, Otara | Internet MAN...
    A campaign to Eliminate Poverty, Feed the Kids, build more houses, and create thousands of new jobs, was outlined by Internet MANA at a public meeting in Otara this evening. When MANA and the Internet Party first sat down to...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Housing in Waiariki – Sykes
    Fact:  Under this National-Maori Party-ACT-United Future Government 61% of Maori in Waiariki do not own their own home and nearly 70% of Maori rentals in Waiariki pay $200 or more per week. “Maori in Waiariki have low rates of home ownership...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Charter school crisis shows time to axe costly experiment
    Dysfunction from day one at a Northland charter school shows it is time to dump this costly and failed experiment by the National-ACT Government, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Te Kura Hourua ki Whangaruru received $27,000 in government funding...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Labour will crack down on loan sharks
    A Labour Government will crack down on predatory loan sharks by making it illegal both to charge exorbitant interest rates and to exploit uninformed borrowers, Labour’s Consumer Affairs Spokesperson Carol Beaumont says. Labour today released its Consumer Affairs policy which...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Let’s do the FEED before the weed
    “Last week I put out a very strongly worded email to my colleagues about an online promotion about cannabis law reform” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira “and I stand by that criticism today.” My concern was...
    Mana | 08-09
  • TE KAEA and NATIVE AFFAIRS live to fight another day
    “I understand that both the chair of the Board of Maori Television, Georgina Te Heuheu, and new CEO, Paora Maxwell, are now saying that my comments this morning about their plans to cut Te Kaea and Native Affairs, were wrong, and that...
    Mana | 08-09
  • How come the PM only pays 2.8% of his income in tax – Harawira
    “Before John Key talks about the piddling tax cuts he plans for low and middle income families today he needs to explain why he only pays 2.8% of his income on tax while a minimum wage worker pays 28% tax,”...
    Mana | 07-09
  • THE DEATH OF INDEPENDENCE FOR MAORI TV
    “If what I’m hearing is true, tomorrow Maori Television Service (MTS) will dump its news programme, Te Kaea, and staff will lose their jobs” said MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira “and the Minister of Maori...
    Mana | 07-09
  • Labour recommits to Pike River families
    An incoming Labour-led government will do everything possible to recover the bodies of the Pike River Miners and return them to their families, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “This tragedy and its aftermath has left the families of the 29...
    Labour | 06-09
  • Voting has started and still no tax plan or fiscal budget for voters to see
    "Even though voting for the election has already begun, National still refuses to provide any details of its proposed tax cuts. And Bill English admitted this morning that he won’t provide any specifics until after the election", Labour’s Finance spokesperson...
    Labour | 06-09
  • National’s partners’ tax plans cost at least $42 billion
    If National forms the next government its partners’ tax plans will cost the country at least $42 billion, and maybe as much as $50 billion, wreaking havoc with the books, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “National claims to be...
    Labour | 05-09
  • Labour: Providing more opportunities for young Kiwis
    A Labour Government will ensure every young Kiwi under the age of 20 is given the opportunity to be in work, education or training, and plans to develop a conservation apprenticeship scheme to help do that, Labour’s Youth Affairs spokesperson...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Candles out on teachers’ slice of birthday cake
    Today may be Novopay’s second birthday, but there’s little to celebrate, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Novopay has cost the taxpayer tens of millions of dollars already, and the cost is still climbing....
    Labour | 04-09
  • National’s blatant broadband pork barrelling misses the mark by a country...
    National’s blatant pork-barrelling ICT announcement today should reinforce a growing sceptical electorate’s view that they are all about the gift wrap and not the present, Labour’s ICT spokesperson Clare Curran says. “Instead of addressing the real issues - the woeful...
    Labour | 04-09
  • More evidence of the need to clean up the system
    The latest release of emails and messages between disgraced Minister Judith Collins and blogger Cameron Slater are more evidence of the urgent need to clean up politics, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. "This new evidence confirms a near constant flow...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Labour commits to stable funding for voluntary sector
    A Labour Government will establish long-term funding and streamline contract accountability for community and voluntary groups, says Labour’s spokesperson for the sector Louisa Wall. Announcing Labour’s policy for the community and voluntary sector, she said this would give much greater...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Better trained and skilled workforce under Labour
    Labour is committed to a skilled workforce that benefits businesses as well as their workers, and will increase workplace training to improve productivity and drive innovation, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes the Government should support New Zealanders into...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will make renting a better option
    Labour will provide greater security of tenure for renters, and build more state and social housing, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour believes every kid deserves a decent start in life. That means a warm, dry and secure home....
    Labour | 03-09
  • At least 15 new taxes under National
    John Key is the last person to talk about creating taxes, presiding over a Government that has imposed at least 15 new taxes, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “John Key tried a novel line in the debate last night claiming...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will strengthen New Zealand’s democracy
    A Labour Government will act quickly to protect and enhance New Zealand’s reputation as one of the most open and least corrupt countries in the world, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The health of any democracy is improved by greater...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement says tax cut on GST must be first priority – Minto
    “If Prime Minister John Key has money available for tax cuts then cutting GST must be the first priority”,  said MANA Movement Economic Justice Spokesperson John Minto. GST is a nasty tax on low-income families”, said Minto. “People in the...
    Mana | 02-09
  • The Maori Party’s Mana-Enhancing Relationship with National – Minto
    “First we had Cameron Slater and David Farrar backing Labour’s Kelvin Davis bid to unseat MANA Movement Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Hone Harawira.  Now we have Slater writing a pro-Te Ururoa Flavell article on his website, Whale...
    Mana | 02-09
  • There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Mana | 02-09
  • Local communities critical to Civil Defence
    Labour will focus on empowering New Zealand communities to be resilient in Civil Defence disasters, says Labour’s Civil Defence spokesperson Clare Curran. Announcing Labour’s Civil Defence policy, she says that Labour will work with schools, voluntary agencies and community groups...
    Labour | 02-09
  • Labour looks to long-life passports, gambling harm review
    A return to 10 year passports and a review of gambling laws are highlights of Labour’s Internal Affairs policy released today. “More than 15,000 New Zealanders signed a petition calling on the Government to revert to the 10 year system...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the vast majority...
    Mana | 01-09
  • Rebuilding the New Zealand Defence Force
    A Labour Government will make it a priority to rebuild the capacity of the Defence Force to carry out the tasks expected of it, says Labour’s Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff. Releasing Labour’s Defence Policy today he said the NZDF has...
    Labour | 01-09
  • The attempt to kill off Internet MANA
    It’s the last day of campaigning today and the long list of those attacking Internet MANA got longer yesterday with Winston Peters backing Labour candidate Kelvin Davis against the MANA Movement’s Hone Harawira. Davis is now supported by Labour, National,...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • A final word on the election – it’s now all up to you
    Brothers & Sisters, the fate of Aotearoa is now all in your hands. We here at the Daily Blog have thrown everything we can at this bloody Government and have spent every waking hour of this campaign trying to highlight...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • I can’t tell what is National Party advert and what is the NZ Herald – ...
    I can’t tell what is National Party advert and what is the NZ Herald – but then again, I never could...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • TVNZ election coverage – white people telling other white people why Nati...
    TVNZ election coverage – white people telling other white people why National Party is great...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • REVIEW: Royals of Kihikihi
    What an absolutely stunning show.  I had to ask twice to check I’d heard right that this is the first staged production for Samuel Christopher, who also played a raw, real, but vulnerable, Wolf Royal, home from London for his...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • 800 Cops to detain 15 ‘terrorists’ – why Australia’s hysterical Isl...
    I’m sorry but I can’t take this current Australian terror threat seriously. 800 cops to detain 15 people and arrest one of them? A week after Abbot decides to send in Australian forces to the cluster fuck of Iraq, suddenly...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Unbelievable corruption inside Government to attack Kim Dotcom
    The corruption inside this Government just more and more filthy – we now have an ex-Customs Lawyer quitting  after being told to bury information that could embarrass the Government, specifically to do with Kim Dotcom… Curtis Gregorash said he was told...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Everyone Loves A Win-Win That Keeps G...
      Permit me to quote some figures at you… -68% of New Zealanders think political news on television focuses too much on politicians’ personalities and not enough on real issues. This is the key result of a recent UMR survey commissioned by...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, another week of ...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, another week of being the most in demand broadcaster in the country...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • EXCLUSIVE: Te Tai Tokerau independent poll (44% Hone-27% Kelvin) vs Maori T...
    The Te Tai Tokerau Maori TV poll on Monday this week painted a bleak picture for Internet MANA supporters, and it’s results have been seized upon by Labour, NZ First and even the Maori Party (who seem set once again...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The time for TPPA weasel words is over
    Almost every day of the election campaign there has been a policy announcement that would potentially run foul of what I understand is currently in the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA):  more constraints on foreign investment or investors … regulation of...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • MELTDOWN – Maori Party turns on their own Te Tai Tokerau candidate – ag...
    The tensions are building in Te Tai Tokerau with the Maori Party on the verge of meltdown. Days out from the election, the Maori Party Executive has tried to heavy their own Te Tai Tokerau Electoral Committee and their own candidate, Te Hira Paenga,...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • We Can Change this Government
    We Can Change this Government – Mike Treen at the First Union stop work election meeting...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Election 2014: For and Against
    With the general election tomorrow, we have had a very noisy campaign but little sign that the electorate wishes for a fundamental change of governmental direction. This reflects in part the fact that the economic cycle is close to its decadal...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Eye To Eye Uploaded: Martyn ‘Bomber’ Bradbury
    This interview was filmed a couple of weeks ago between Willie Jackson and myself, I was a tad off with my prediction of NZ First....
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The Donghua Liu Affair – The Players Revealed
      . . – Special investigation by Frank Macskasy & ‘Hercules‘ Speculation that the Beehive office of Immigration Minister, Michael Woodhouse, was behind the release of a letter linking Labour leader, David Cunliffe, with controversial Chinese businessman, Donghua Liu, is...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold NZ d...
    It should read ‘never stop spying’. As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold us down the river to the US by allowing the Southern Cross cable to be tapped… The ability for US intelligence agencies...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The NZ First-Labour Party attack strategy against Internet MANA better work
    The final days of the campaign are ticking down and Labour and NZ First are manoeuvring to kill off the Internet MANA Party by both backing Kelvin Davis for Te Tai Tokerau. It’s a risky gambit that they better pray to Christ...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Bill English’s latest insult to beneficiaries – apparently they are lik...
    National’s hatred towards the poor continues unabated as National desperately try to throw raw meat to their reactionary voter base in the hope to inspire enough hate and loathing to win back their redneck voters from the Conservative Party and from...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Eminem ain’t happy with John Key
    Eminem ain’t happy with John Key...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Key claims he did not inhale
    Key claims he did not inhale...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Final prediction on election result 2014
    What an election campaign. The character assassination of David Cunliffe kicked things off with the Herald on Sunday falsely claiming $100 00 bottles of wine, $15 000 books and $150 000 in donations  from a donor that turned out to be...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Live blog: Bainamarama takes commanding lead in Fiji elections
      Interview with Repúblika editor Ricardo Morris and Pacific Scoop’s Mads Anneberg. PACIFIC SCOOP TEAM By Ricardo Morris, Mads Anneberg, Alistar Kata and Biutoka Kacimaiwai in Suva WHILE the results are provisional at this stage, it is clear today that...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 5AA Australia: NZ Elections Two Days To Go! + Edward Snowden + Julian Assan...
    Recorded live on 18/09/14 – Captured Live on Ustream at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/multimedia-investments-ltd 5AA Australia’s Peter Godfrey and Selwyn Manning deliver their weekly bulletin: Across The Ditch. This week, they discuss the latest news as New Zealanders go to the polls on...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What has Colin Craig done for his Press Secretary to quit 2 days before ele...
    This is VERY strange.  Colin Craig’s Press Secretary Rachel McGregor, has quit 2 days before the election, allegedly telling ZB that Colin Craig was a “very manipulative man”. I’ve met Rachel many times in the past as Colin’s Press Secretary, she is...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” – A brief w...
    “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” said Key in the final leaders debate. Problem of course is that the 250 000 – 285 000 children living in poverty can not afford steak, milk, butter, eggs...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • National’s final bash of beneficiaries before the election
    On cue, whenever National feel threatened, they roll out a little bennie bash just to keep their redneck voter base happy. Nothing like a bit of raw meat policy to keep National voters focused on the evil threat solo parents...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • With All Of This In Mind, I Vote
    This is my last blog before the election and I really just want to speak from the heart. Right now in this country it seems to me that a lot of people consider the “essentials” in life to be simply...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Left has to vote strategically this election
    The dedication, loyalty, and tribalism of party politics means that sometimes the left lets itself down by not voting strategically. We all want our favoured party to get maximum votes, naturally, but the winner-takes-all approach doesn’t always suit multi-party left...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Dear NZ – as you enter the polling booth, stand up for your rights
    The last days before a NZ general election are a busy time as politicians make their pitch and party activists prepare to get out the vote. It is sort of weird watching from the distance of Europe the strangest election...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What is Waihopai, John, if it isn’t a facility for “mass surveillance...
    John Key assured us on RNZ’s Nine to Noon programme yesterday that “In terms of the Fives Eyes data bases… yes New Zealand will contribute some information but not mass wholesale surveillance.” How does this square with the operation of the...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Mass Surveillance and the Banality of E...
    Renowned journalist and intellectual Hannah Arendt coined the phrase “the banality of evil” to describe the normalisation of genocide in Nazi Germany. I thought of her phrase when I was listening to Glenn Greenwald and other international whistle-blowers talking about...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Election. Down. To. The. Wire
    Funny how last week it was John Key winning by 50%, now it’s neck and neck. I have always believed this election would be down to the wire and it is proving so. The flawed landline opinion polls the mainstream...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 3rd Degree uses Whaleoil for story ideas as if Dirty Politics never happene...
    TV3s 3rd Degrees smear job on Kim Dotcom last night doesn’t bear much repeating. It was pretty pathetic journalism from a team who have brought us some great journalism in the past. It is sad to see 3rd Degree stooping...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Live blog: Bainimarama takes early lead in Fiji’s election
    Pacific Scoop’s Alistar Kata reports from yesterday’s voting. By Alistar Kata of Pacific Scoop in Suva Prime Minister Voreqe Bainimarama took an early lead in provisional results in the Fiji general election last night. With provisional results from 170 out...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Has The NSA Constructed The Perfect PPP?
    Former intelligence analyst and whistleblower, Edward Snowden – speaking live to those gathered at the Auckland Town Hall on Monday September 17, 2014. Investigation by Selwyn Manning. THE PRIME MINISTER JOHN KEY’s admission on Wednesday that whistleblower Edward Snowden “may...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • No way – Key admits Snowden is right
    After claiming there was no middle ground. After claiming there was no mass surveillance. After calling Glenn Greenwald a henchman and a loser. After all the mainstream media pundits screamed at Kim’s decision to take his evidence to Parliamentary Privileges...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Bad luck National
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    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • The incredible changing John Key story on mass spying – why the Moment of...
    While the mainstream media continue to try and make the Moment of Truth about Kim’s last minute decision to prolong his battle against John Key past the election into the Privileges Committee, the reality is that the Moment of Truth...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Themes of the Campaign
    There’s one area of a political campaign that just about everyone, at some point, falls afoul of. The campaign song. I’m not sure quite why it is, but it seems to be almost impossible for political parties to come up...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG – Denis Tegg – The NSA slides that prove mass surveillance
    The evidence presented by Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden on The Intercept of mass surveillance of New Zealanders by the GCSB is undeniable, and can stand on its own. But when you place this fresh evidence in the context of...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Ukraine, United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland
    The Ukrainian civil war discomforts me. It seems to me the most dangerous political crisis since the Cuban missile crisis of 1962. And it’s because of our unwillingness to examine the issues in a holistic way. We innately prefer to...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • John Key’s love affair with a straw man – the relationship intensifies
    John Key’s love affair with the straw man is now a fully-committed relationship. It’s now the first love of his life. Sorry Bronagh. Yesterday I pointed to Key’s constant assurances that there is no mass surveillance of New Zealanders by...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • A brief word on why Wendyl Nissen is a hero
    Wendyl Nissen is a hero. The sleazy black ops attack on her by Slater and Odgers on behalf of Grocery Council chief executive Katherine Rich is sick. All Nissen is doing in her column is point out the filth and...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • She saw John Key on TV and decided to vote!
    . . NZ, Wellington, 15 September – ‘Tina’* is 50, a close friend,  and one of the “Missing Million” from the last election. In fact, ‘Tina’ has never voted in her life.  Not once. In ‘Tina’s’ own words, politics has...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Eminem sues National Party for unlawful use of ‘Lose yourself’ bhahahah...
    …ahahahahahahahaha. Oh Christ this is hilarious… National Party sued over Eminem copyright infringment US rapper Eminem is suing the National Party for allegedly breaching copyright by using his song Lose Yourself in its campaign advertisements. The Detroit-based publishers of Eminem’s...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Are the Greens about to be snookered by a Labour-NZ First Government?
    I wrote last week that it was smart politics that the Greens pointed out they could work with National, the soft blue vote that’s looking for a home in the wake of Dirty Politics isn’t going to Labour, so the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • BLOGWATCH: Fonterra join 2Degrees and boycott Whaleoil
    In the wake of Dirty Politics, advertisers are pulling their advertising out of Whaleoil. PaknSave, Evo Cycles Pukekohe, Localist, 2 Degrees, Fertility Associates, iSentia, NZ Breast Cancer Foundation, Maori TV, Bookme.co.nz, Dobetter.co.nz and the Sound are now joined by Fonterra...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • PM Key accused of allowing secret ‘spook’ cable sensors to spy on citiz...
    Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald (left) and Kim Dotcom at the “moment of truth” political surveillance meeting in Auckland last night. Image: PMW By ANNA MAJAVU of Pacific Media Watch NEW ZEALAND Prime Minister John Key has been accused of...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Fiji pre-election ‘politics’ blackout stirs media protests, frustration
    BLACKOUT DAY – Monday, day one of the “silence window” in Fiji leading up to the close of polling in the general election at 6pm on Wednesday. And this is under the draconian threat of a $10,000 fine or five...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Daily Election Update #12: NZ First to hold balance of power
    Winston Peters’ NZ First Party will hold the balance of power after tomorrow’s election, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. Mr Peters is then expected to back a National-led...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Election Day is Time to Refocus on Policies
    Over the course of this election campaign there has been a lot of focus on dirty politics and spying, and not a lot on policy. With election day looming, Gareth Morgan is calling for people to refocus on the issues....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • The Kiwi FM Alternative Election Commentary
    Saturday 20 September from 7pm on 102.2 Auckland, 102.1 Wellington, 102.5 Canterbury, or KiwiFM.co.nz...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Beneficiary Bashing unacceptable
    Kay Brereton of the Beneficiary Advocacy Federation of New Zealand says “ the comment made by Bill English yesterday comparing beneficiaries to crack addicts is shocking and incredibly poorly timed.”...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • UN Experience Beneficial
    Acclaim Otago representatives have just completed their participation at the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disability examination of the New Zealand government in Geneva, Switzerland. "It was an interesting two days which we believe has...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Changing face of NZ should be reflected in newsrooms
    With Fairfax Media’s Journalism Intern search closing on Sunday, Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy is urging aspiring journalists from Maori, Pacific and ethnic communities to apply. The deadline was recently extended to 10pm, Sunday...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • SPCA expresses concern over toxin in waterways
    Ric Odom CEO of Royal NZ SPCA has expressed concern over the toxic poison 1080 entering waterways, but DoC, Council’s and Ministry of Health have colluded to make it legal....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • NZ 2014 Election Index – 13-18 September
    Below is iSentia’s final weekly Election Index, covering the period 13-18 September and showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. The methodology used...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Epsom Candidate (Adam Holland) More Liberal Than ACT
    For the past four years I, like 500,000 other New Zealanders, have been illegally smoking cannabis for medicinal purposes and/or even just for the occasional laugh with friends on the weekend. We don't hurt anybody, we don't cause nuisance, we...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Left Coalition Will Save Dolphins
    A left coalition would safeguard both Māui and Hector’s dolphins, as well as revive our inshore ecosystems. Labour, Internet Mana and the Green Party all have strong policies in place for dolphin protection. The Maori Party, and to a certain...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Waihoroi Shortland: Ngāti Hine is not standing alone
    The Chairman of Te Rūnanga a Iwi o Ngāpuhi, Sonny Tau is blowing smoke worthy of a Dotcom rally with claims that Ngati Hine is standing alone in its opposition to Tūhoronuku says the Chairman of Te Rūnanga o Ngati...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Oceania voices on environment loud and strong
    While money and energy continues to be spent on global talks about climate change, Pacific islanders are scrambling to build sea walls out of sticks, stones, shells and coral, to protect their lands and homes from erosion and rising sea...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Prime Time with Sean Plunket – Tonight
    No MPs tonight --- the campaign will be over at 9 30. Instead we will look back --- and possibly forward on what we have learned and what might happen. Listener Political Columnist Jane Clifton Editor in Chief, NZ Herald,...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Election fails to address youth financial wellbeing
    Young people don’t feel included in New Zealand’s financial success and believe inequality is a problem, according to a new survey conducted by Westpac’s Fin-Ed Centre at Massey University....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Winston’s Waffle doesn’t hide the facts
    The Conservative Party is celebrating the ASA's finding announced today that rejected all but one of the complaints raised against its controversial “Conservatives or Peters” pamphlet. “Despite pages of complaints from Peters legal team the only...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • NZ Independent Coalition looking forward to tomorrow
    “Our team is looking forward to tomorrow. It is a real opportunity to reclaim politics for the people,” said NZ Independent Coalition leader Brendan Horan....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Insights Issue 35/2014 – 19 September 2014
    Insights Issue 35/2014 - 19 September 2014 In This Issue • RMA reform the golden unicorn of policy | Jenesa Jeram...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Special voting arrangements made for NIWA crew
    One of the most unusual polling stations for this year’s general election is in the middle of the ocean miles from land. NIWA’s flagship research vessel Tangaroa, has been doubling as a polling booth for crew and scientists at sea....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Tourism operators urged to vote strategically
    Tourism operators should make sure they know their local candidates’ view on tourism and use their vote to support the country’s second largest export industry, says Chris Roberts, Chief Executive, Tourism Industry Association New Zealand (TIA)....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • WGTN: March for free education
    We are students, university staff, and members of the community. Whichever parties form a government after September 20th, we are demanding an end to corporatisation of education....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Evidence of Corruption a National Scandal
    Internet Party leader Laila Harré will take evidence of corruption to international forums if there is not a full Royal Commission to investigate the growing evidence of the systematic use and abuse of democratic institutions and processes for political...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Govt continues to throw money at charter school experiment
    Official documents reveal the three primary sector charter schools approved last week will cost $2 million to set up as well as divert another $1.5 million of potential taxpayer investment from local state schools next year....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • ACT Final Election Rally
    Elections campaigns are an opportunity for political parties to put candidates and policy to enable voters to choose what sort of New Zealand we want. In this campaign there have been three tests by which you can assess the electoral...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Taxpayers on Hook Again for Solid Energy
    Responding to the Fairfax article that taxpayers are extending another $103 million to keep Solid Energy afloat, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Invermay Petition Tops 10,000 Signatures
    People across New Zealand continue to express their disgust at the downgrading of Invermay, says Dunedin North MP David Clark, as the Save Invermay petition he instigated earlier this year topped the 10,000 signature mark just days before the 2014...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • McVicar vows to continue fight for police
    Garth McVicar stated at a public meeting last week that he would fight to retain a 24/7 Police Station in Napier and no reduction in the number of police staff for the Hawkes Bay region, some said he was simply...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Party Vote Our Weapon in Fight Against Government Corruption
    Internet MANA urges New Zealanders to use their party vote to confront corruption in any new government....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Election day is tomorrow – make sure you’re a part of it!
    Tomorrow, Saturday 20 September, is election day, and New Zealanders’ last chance to have a say on who leads the country for the next three years....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Is the Shape of our Government out of the hands of Voters?
    In the last stuff.co.nz / Ipsos Political Poll before Saturdays election, National is down 5.1% to 47.7% and Labour up 3.7% to 26.15%. These results are remarkably similar to the 2011 election where National received 47.3% of the vote and...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Spirit of Suffrage a Call to Action for All Kiwi Women
    Internet MANA is drawing on the courage and integrity of New Zealand women on Suffrage Day – Friday, September, 19 – to encourage them to pay tribute to the spirit of their foremothers who gained women the vote....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Live Election Night Coverage on TV And Online
    Māori Television’s KOWHIRI 2014 – ELECTION SPECIAL kicks off at 7.00pm this Saturday with a five-hour broadcast focusing on the Māori electorates....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Judge’s Decision Disappoints Fish & Game
    Today’s decision to give a Temuka man 100 hours of community service for selling sports fish to the public has disappointed Fish & Game, which believes the sentence handed down was “too lenient and will not go far enough to...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Cutting-Edge Graphics Fire up TV3’s Election Night Coverage
    TV3’s Election Night coverage, hosted by John Campbell, will be enhanced by cutting-edge graphics that will showcase the night’s results....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Govt rushes to open charter schools in New Year
    The government’s decision to approve four new charter schools last week to open in January next year goes against the Minister of Education’s own advice that the schools ought to have at least a year’s preparation time....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • 7 Days And Jono And Ben at Ten Hijack Election Weekend
    The 7 Days and Jono and Ben at Ten (JABAT) comedians are running their own version of election coverage, with a schedule of entertainment and comedy across TV3, Kiwi FM, the web and social media this Friday and Saturday under...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Fewer Prisoners Equals Less Crime
    In its latest blog, ‘Abolishing Parole and other Crazy Stuff’,’ at http://blog.rethinking.org.nz/2014/09/krill-and-womble-independent-policy.html , Rethinking Crime and Punishment urges government to rethink its approach to releasing prisoners. “The public expectation is that the excellent reductions in the crime...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • McVicar slams his political opponents
    I want a safe and prosperous society and that can only be achieved if we have strong and vi-brant families – McVicar...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Falling economic growth – wage rises overdue
    “The lower GDP growth in the three months to June is further evidence that growth has peaked. New Zealand’s economy is on the way down to mediocre growth rates,” says CTU economist Bill Rosenberg. “Yet wage rises are still weak...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Get Out and Vote campaign a success
    Tens of thousands of workers from all around New Zealand have embraced the Get Out and Vote campaign and have created their own personalised voting plan, the CTU said today. “With three days of voting left in the 2014 General...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Animal Research Failing – So Do More Animal Research?
    Victoria University of Wellington is about to host a lecture on why the success rates of pharmaceutical development is so low and what can be done about it. The New Zealand Anti-Vivisection Society (NZAVS) welcomes discussion on this important...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • ALCP welcomes Prime Minister’s cannabis comments
    Mr Abbott's comments came on the same day as New South Wales and Victoria states announced they would be doing clinical trials of cannabis....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Conservative Party Press Secretary Resignation
    The Conservative Party is given to understand that this morning Press Secretary, Miss Rachel Macgregor resigned althought no formal advice of this has yet been received....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • By ACT’s logic, Epsom should vote for Conservative Candidate
    “Polling released late in the campaign shows that ACT is a busted flush and that by ACT’s own logic, centre-right Epsom voters should vote for the Conservative candidate”, says Labour candidate for Epsom Michael Wood....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • New online medical system
    Immigration New Zealand (INZ) is seeking registrations of interest for a new onshore panel physician network to support an online immigration health processing system....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Students, You Have a Choice, Vote!
    The New Zealand Union of Students’ Associations (NZUSA) is imploring students to ensure they make their voices heard this election, and join the many thousands who have already heeded the call....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Party vote ACT for three years of stability.
    Voters who are concerned that on the latest polls we may be heading for three years of instability have it in their hands to deliver a decisive result....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Women’s Suffrage Movement – Get Out and Vote!
    Tomorrow, Friday 19th September, MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki, Annette Sykes, will cast her vote at 12 noon at the Zen’s Building, Rotorua. This will follow a march through Rotorua that will assemble at 10am at City Focus, Rotorua. The...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • iPredict Daily Update
    David Cunliffe and Labour have made gains over the last 24 hours, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict, but John Key’s National is still strongly expected to lead the next...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Conservative’s Proposal to Abolish Parole Fatally Flawed
    The Conservative Party’s proposal to abolish parole doesn't stack up, however which way you look at it, concludes Kim Workman in Rethinking Crime and Punishment latest blog, ‘Abolishing Parole and Other Crazy Stuff’ at http://blog.rethinking.org.nz/2014/09/krill-and-womble-independent-policy.html...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Special Edition : The letter 18 September 2014
    Dr Jamie Whyte has been giving thoughtful speeches largely unreported. So we thought we would put out an edited version on the speech he gave yesterday. The full speech is on the website....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
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