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		<title>By: We can haz vision? at The Standard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/jam-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-146279</link>
		<dc:creator>We can haz vision? at The Standard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I said two weeks ago when he indicated he would announce a plan to stop job losses (he still hasn&#8217;t, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I said two weeks ago when he indicated he would announce a plan to stop job losses (he still hasn&#8217;t, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RedLogix</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/jam-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-143896</link>
		<dc:creator>RedLogix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the posted rate of unemployment figures (around 1000 per week new beneficiaries) hides the real rate which is about three times higher. Because of the miserably low figure of about $580 per week of partner earnings, and given that most households have two or more incomes, the majority of people leaving the workforce at the moment are not getting a benefit. In fact only about 32% do.

Interestingly the corresponding number in Australia is 99%. I guess that&#039;s another aspirational comparison we won&#039;t be hearing from Mr Key anytime soon either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the posted rate of unemployment figures (around 1000 per week new beneficiaries) hides the real rate which is about three times higher. Because of the miserably low figure of about $580 per week of partner earnings, and given that most households have two or more incomes, the majority of people leaving the workforce at the moment are not getting a benefit. In fact only about 32% do.</p>
<p>Interestingly the corresponding number in Australia is 99%. I guess that&#8217;s another aspirational comparison we won&#8217;t be hearing from Mr Key anytime soon either.</p>
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		<title>By: appleboy</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/jam-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-143886</link>
		<dc:creator>appleboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another steamingly great national idea - pulling 50 million out of adult education - just the place where many people can further their skills in the event of being laid off...and hey then what? National give 35 million of that saving to...private schools, because those people who pay $10 grand a year in fees just can&#039;t afford any more and are really feeling the pinch...I am amazed at how see through National are...same old tricks and same old drivers....nothing has changed despite the awful smile</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another steamingly great national idea &#8211; pulling 50 million out of adult education &#8211; just the place where many people can further their skills in the event of being laid off&#8230;and hey then what? National give 35 million of that saving to&#8230;private schools, because those people who pay $10 grand a year in fees just can&#8217;t afford any more and are really feeling the pinch&#8230;I am amazed at how see through National are&#8230;same old tricks and same old drivers&#8230;.nothing has changed despite the awful smile</p>
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		<title>By: Draco T Bastard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/jam-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-143875</link>
		<dc:creator>Draco T Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it&#039;s more because we sold the train set in the first place (as well as Telecom and others) and generally effed the economy with Rogernomics. Keynesian economics could have worked if they had been properly implemented (though Keynes was still wedded to the failed capitalist meme) and, when a faulty implementation failed we went to an even more unstable economic theory in neoclassicalism. On top of all that we&#039;ve sold off all our actual wealth production to overseas owners so that they get to benefit and we don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it&#8217;s more because we sold the train set in the first place (as well as Telecom and others) and generally effed the economy with Rogernomics. Keynesian economics could have worked if they had been properly implemented (though Keynes was still wedded to the failed capitalist meme) and, when a faulty implementation failed we went to an even more unstable economic theory in neoclassicalism. On top of all that we&#8217;ve sold off all our actual wealth production to overseas owners so that they get to benefit and we don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarke</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/jam-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-143870</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, cheap shot.

There&#039;s been lots done about unemployment - why, only yesterday Paula Bennett oversaw the destruction of another 558 jobs at MSD! I think that qualifies as actual action.

Oh, wait, you meant action to &lt;i&gt;decrease&lt;/i&gt; unemployment .. sorry, wrong government. Shop elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, cheap shot.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s been lots done about unemployment &#8211; why, only yesterday Paula Bennett oversaw the destruction of another 558 jobs at MSD! I think that qualifies as actual action.</p>
<p>Oh, wait, you meant action to <i>decrease</i> unemployment .. sorry, wrong government. Shop elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: So Bored</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/jam-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-143854</link>
		<dc:creator>So Bored</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keys new ideas (oxymoronic dont you think)....an extended cycleway with a much heavier bridge loading so the trucking industry can use it.....specifically for the resupply of super sized burgers at th mackers on route. Howzat?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keys new ideas (oxymoronic dont you think)&#8230;.an extended cycleway with a much heavier bridge loading so the trucking industry can use it&#8230;..specifically for the resupply of super sized burgers at th mackers on route. Howzat?????</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/jam-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-143851</link>
		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick said: &lt;i&gt;Toad, so you&#039;d be for subsudising jobs in the Green New Deal but against subsidising jobs for any other initiative?&lt;/i&gt;

Nick, the Green New Deal jobs would not be subsidised jobs at all.  They would be real jobs created, largely in housing construction and infrastructure development.  The Government would have acquire assets through the creation of those jobs.

The Green New Deal is a long way from the Government throwing money at a multinational company with an appalling record in employment an environmental practices that engages in child-focused advertising and purveys food much of which is still questionalble nutritional standard.

That said, I am not opposed to targeted employment subsidies to encourage employers to take on &quot;high risk&quot; employees - that&#039;s a far more effectiv and far more fair way of achieving that objective than the Government&#039;s fire@will.bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick said: <i>Toad, so you&#8217;d be for subsudising jobs in the Green New Deal but against subsidising jobs for any other initiative?</i></p>
<p>Nick, the Green New Deal jobs would not be subsidised jobs at all.  They would be real jobs created, largely in housing construction and infrastructure development.  The Government would have acquire assets through the creation of those jobs.</p>
<p>The Green New Deal is a long way from the Government throwing money at a multinational company with an appalling record in employment an environmental practices that engages in child-focused advertising and purveys food much of which is still questionalble nutritional standard.</p>
<p>That said, I am not opposed to targeted employment subsidies to encourage employers to take on &#8220;high risk&#8221; employees &#8211; that&#8217;s a far more effectiv and far more fair way of achieving that objective than the Government&#8217;s <a href="mailto:fire@will.bill">fire@will.bill</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/jam-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-143847</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So $60 million a year for the next decade?
Or $600 million one off purchase to keep in public ownership in perpetuity (that is, unless it&#039;s stolen again)

I know which ROI I&#039;d rather have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So $60 million a year for the next decade?<br />
Or $600 million one off purchase to keep in public ownership in perpetuity (that is, unless it&#8217;s stolen again)</p>
<p>I know which ROI I&#8217;d rather have.</p>
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		<title>By: jarbury</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/jam-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-143846</link>
		<dc:creator>jarbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main issue with the whole McJobs situation is that I don&#039;t get how it&#039;s any different to how things could happen at the moment. Surely WINZ should have some sort of link with McDonalds - they&#039;re a large employer who are actually expanding at the moment. It would be crazy if WINZ didn&#039;t have a link and relationship with McDs and weren&#039;t recommending people to them who are looking for a job.

So basically, I say &quot;what&#039;s new&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main issue with the whole McJobs situation is that I don&#8217;t get how it&#8217;s any different to how things could happen at the moment. Surely WINZ should have some sort of link with McDonalds &#8211; they&#8217;re a large employer who are actually expanding at the moment. It would be crazy if WINZ didn&#8217;t have a link and relationship with McDs and weren&#8217;t recommending people to them who are looking for a job.</p>
<p>So basically, I say &#8220;what&#8217;s new&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Maynard J</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/jam-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-143843</link>
		<dc:creator>Maynard J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prove that there are positive externalities for any initiative, especially socio-environmental ones, and you will see my support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prove that there are positive externalities for any initiative, especially socio-environmental ones, and you will see my support.</p>
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		<title>By: Ianmac</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/jam-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-143842</link>
		<dc:creator>Ianmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Outspoken Leader all Hat and No Cattle&quot;. 
Oops. I thought that this in the Herald today was about John Key. But I was wrong. It was Manuel Zelaya, Honduras.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Outspoken Leader all Hat and No Cattle&#8221;.<br />
Oops. I thought that this in the Herald today was about John Key. But I was wrong. It was Manuel Zelaya, Honduras.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/jam-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-143841</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IB - I think English is a clown.  That should set the record straight!

Captcha: Trains Lessening!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IB &#8211; I think English is a clown.  That should set the record straight!</p>
<p>Captcha: Trains Lessening!!</p>
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		<title>By: jarbury</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/jam-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-143840</link>
		<dc:creator>jarbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crikey Toad, they&#039;re not up on the parliament website yet. You insider you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crikey Toad, they&#8217;re not up on the parliament website yet. You insider you.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/jam-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-143838</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toad, so you&#039;d be for subsudising jobs in the Green New Deal but against subsidising jobs for any other initiative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toad, so you&#8217;d be for subsudising jobs in the Green New Deal but against subsidising jobs for any other initiative?</p>
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		<title>By: These are your grandfather&#8217;s McJobs &#171; g.blog</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/jam-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-143835</link>
		<dc:creator>These are your grandfather&#8217;s McJobs &#171; g.blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are your grandfather&#8217;s&#160;McJobs Posted by Ari under Uncategorized Leave a Comment&#160;  Irishbill at The Standard points out that our government&#8217;s wonderful new agreement with McDonalds is actually just a [...]</description>
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