John Banks set to quit at next election

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1. jaymam 1

   4 December 2013 at 10:56 am

   I guess Boscawen will stand in Epsom.
2. Colonial Viper 2

   4 December 2013 at 10:57 am

   He’s not really set to quit. He’s set to hang on in Parliament, by his dirty fingernails, while going through a court case, in order to prop up the now clearly crony government of Key and English.
   • Tracey 2.1

     4 December 2013 at 11:09 am

     drawing wages… the perk busting, face the consequences of your actions party…
   • Macro 2.2

     4 December 2013 at 11:14 am

     That’s it exactly! Had he any decency he would have quit long ago. But then, had he any decency, he wouldn’t be where he is now.
     Voters in Epsom, as they do in Ohariu-Belmont have a lot to answer for.
     • Steve Wrathall 2.2.1

       4 December 2013 at 11:32 am

       Yes, government works much better without these damn voters, eh comrade?
       • framu 2.2.1.1

         4 December 2013 at 12:14 pm

         despite you rather childish retort – what do you think of all this steve? your and act supporter arent you?

         just exactly is your opinion of how closely act is following its own supposed principals?
         • framu 2.2.1.1.1

           4 December 2013 at 12:16 pm

           the site is being strange again

           failed to load comment – refresh and its there but with no edit
       • Draco T Bastard 2.2.1.2

         4 December 2013 at 12:45 pm

         1.) The problem is that a number of voters did what they were told to do from on high – otherwise known as dictatorship and
         2.) Contrary to the lies spread by capitalists a communist society is not dictatorial. In fact, participatory democracy is the heart of communism – something the capitalists have been preventing for centuries from happening in the Western World.
         • TheContrarian 2.2.1.2.1

           4 December 2013 at 1:32 pm

           “1.) The problem is that a number of voters did what they were told to do from on high – otherwise known as dictatorship

           There are many ways to compel voters to vote they way you want but they still have free will to vote for whomever they like. There were no threats, no stand over tactics and the vote was anonymous in line with democratic standards.
           • fender 2.2.1.2.1.1

             4 December 2013 at 1:46 pm

             You should change to TheDracoStalker…

             No threats? No propaganda messages about the “evil” Lab/Green “wrecking ball”?
             • TheContrarian …

               4 December 2013 at 1:52 pm

               Draco is entertaining is all. He makes some whacky proclamations sometimes – I’ll admit I can’t resist. But I am not attempting to troll, I genuinely enjoy these discussions.

               “No threats? No propaganda messages about the “evil” Lab/Green “wrecking ball”?”

               Why would I do that?
               • fender …

                 4 December 2013 at 2:11 pm

                 ” There were no threats, no stand over tactics….”

                 No threats? No propaganda messages about the “evil” Lab/Green “wrecking ball”?
                 • TheContrarian …

                   4 December 2013 at 10:54 pm

                   So the left doesn’t put out messages about the evils of the right?
                 • TheContrarian …

                   4 December 2013 at 10:55 pm

                   So the left doesn’t put out messages about the evils of the right?
                 • TheContrarian …

                   4 December 2013 at 10:55 pm

                   So the left doesn’t put out messages about the evils of the right?
           • Tracey 2.2.1.2.1.2

             4 December 2013 at 2:12 pm

             agree. people choose how to vote.
           • Draco T Bastard 2.2.1.2.1.3

             4 December 2013 at 3:57 pm

             And they still went and did as they were told like good little authoritarian followers.
             • TheContrarian …

               4 December 2013 at 5:47 pm

               There is nothing authoritarian or dictatorial about it. Voters have free will in an anonymous election to vote for whom they want free from threats and each party has free will to campaign for whom and whatever they like.

               Is David Cunliffe stumping for Poto Williams authoritarian? If not, why not?
               • Draco T Bastard …

                 4 December 2013 at 8:55 pm

                 When National voters go and vote for the Act candidate because they were told to then, yes, it was authoritarian. The psychology of the group is well researched. It probably wasn’t dictatorial.

                 Is David Cunliffe stumping for Poto Williams authoritarian? If not, why not?

                 No because, IMO, a) he didn’t expect people who would normally vote otherwise to suddenly vote for Williams and b) it wasn’t planned and well published. Both of these do apply to the Key/banks cup of tea.
                 • TheContrarian …

                   5 December 2013 at 9:40 am

                   There is still total free-will from the voter in an anonymous election and the cup of tea was, admittedly, a rehearsed piece of electioneering but who gives a shit? It wasn’t authoritarian in the slightest and the voter can still vote for whomever they want
               • Frank Macskasy …

                 8 December 2013 at 10:59 pm

                 @ Contrarian,

                 Is David Cunliffe stumping for Poto Williams authoritarian? If not, why not?

                 Did Key actually go out and openly campaign for Banks, as Cunliffe did for Williams? Or was it all done with a furtive *wink and a nod*?! Yes, yes, I know people have a right to a wink and a nod and a sly cuppa tea… *rolls eyes*
       • Macro 2.2.1.3

         4 December 2013 at 10:44 pm

         Steve – the voters in Epsom and in Ohariu voted in MPs who represented their interests – which as we can plainly see do not represent the bests interests of this country. So yes those voters should take a long hard look at themselves because in both instances they voted in muppets.
     • Ake ake ake 2.2.2

       4 December 2013 at 5:03 pm

       “Voters in Epsom”

       umm – do they remember that puke-inducing billboard “A vote for me is your MMP insurance” ?

       That should have read “A vote for me is your MMP dalliance”.
   • Mjoy 2.3

     4 December 2013 at 11:52 am

     ………………………………..while collecting an MPs salary!
   • Mary 2.4

     5 December 2013 at 1:34 pm

     And he will do everything he can to make sure the trial is as close to the election or better still beyond the election. I think he’ll even appeal the judicial review findings with this in mind. The by-election in Epsom stock on ipredict has shot right up but it’s not going to happen especially when he’d need to be convicted within six months of the election.
3. shorts 3

   4 December 2013 at 11:02 am

   pity his poor family having him around more

   good riddance!
   • Tracey 3.1

     4 December 2013 at 11:46 am

     it’s ok, it’s family AND business interests.

     The announcement is a coincidence btw, nothing to do with the court case.
   • Ake ake ake 3.2

     4 December 2013 at 12:01 pm

     yes, and:

     “time for him to spend more time on his family and his private business interests” and prison term are not necessarily mutually exclusive, whether in terms of temporality or locality 🙂
4. CnrJoe 4

   4 December 2013 at 11:02 am

   Nowhere to run nowhere to hide

   I don’t do wrong I only do right
   • Lanthanide 4.1

     4 December 2013 at 11:56 am

     I don’t do bad things, I don’t do good things.

     I bet he’s a real scotsman, too.
     • Lanthanide 4.1.1

       4 December 2013 at 12:00 pm

       Doh!

       Should be “I don’t do bad things, I only do good things”.

       In moderation so I can’t edit it.
     • vto 4.1.2

       4 December 2013 at 2:51 pm

       “I bet he’s a real scotsman, too.”

       I thought the left didn’t like stereotyping of peoples. Or is that just certain peoples and others can be stereotyped with total abandonment …..
       • Arfamo 4.1.2.1

         4 December 2013 at 2:55 pm

         Abandon I think is the word you wanted. Abandonment means something different.
       • Tracey 4.1.2.2

         4 December 2013 at 3:05 pm

         Bluebird or ETA?
         • vto 4.1.2.2.1

           4 December 2013 at 3:51 pm

           que?
       • Lanthanide 4.1.2.3

         4 December 2013 at 4:51 pm

         It was a joke.

         I deliberately chose not to use the word “true” because I thought it would make it funnier.
5. youcannowgetapieinisandbay 5

   4 December 2013 at 11:08 am

   he will be spending time in prison with any luck. runs in the family
   • Tim 5.1

     4 December 2013 at 1:23 pm

     Is there an ‘l’ missing there?
   • Tracey 5.2

     4 December 2013 at 2:56 pm

     That’s a bit nasty. For all his faults he did make something of his life from very difficult beginnings… Admittedly like Key he thinks that everyone should be able to do it but without any support from society.
     • Tim 5.2.1

       4 December 2013 at 9:03 pm

       Problem is Tracey, John Key also apparently had difficult beginnings – as did half the population and more (some say – including myself).
       It’s just a shame that many of those that come from difficult beginnings “pull up the ladder” – like Banks(IE), Key(SIE), Bennett(SIE), Parata(SIE), and even (though not in economic terms) Finlayson(SIE).
       No no no – fuck em all! – They have/and continue to display complete and utter self-interest, lack of any sort of compassion, recognition of various disparities (despite being aware of them) – PITY and EMPATHY is best given to the deserving – the arseholes have proven they’re quite capable of looking after themselves.
6. Tracey 6

   4 December 2013 at 11:08 am

   the old “more time to spend with the family” malarchy. Is he going to get a plumb ED role on a board, like Huljich??
7. Roy 7

   4 December 2013 at 11:10 am

   No need to hang around, Banks. Feel free to leave now.
8. ruuptoit 8

   4 December 2013 at 11:13 am

   Christmas has come early..Ho Ho Ho !
9. Tracey 9

   4 December 2013 at 11:20 am

   Colin Craig was very excited by the possibility of a by-election in Epsom.
10. amirite 10

    4 December 2013 at 11:22 am

    Double standards in Parliament, Darren Hughes resigned after not even been charged by law, John Banks to stand trial yet still sitting in Parliament, keeping all perks and privileges.
    • Steve Wrathall 10.1

      4 December 2013 at 11:34 am

      That’s right. It’s so unfair. Get Darren back for Otaki 2014!!
      • framu 10.1.1

        4 December 2013 at 12:19 pm

        im more interested in seeing you defend the act party steve – go on you can do it

        arent you actoids all about one law for all and personal responsibility?
      • Tracey 10.1.2

        4 December 2013 at 12:30 pm

        Remember when John Key thought Helen should sack Winston… seems he’s changed his mind on having higher standards than labour. You dont mind lies do you Steve, provided you feel like you are welathier under the johns?
        • RedRobin 10.1.2.1

          4 December 2013 at 6:15 pm

          You forget JK can not sack Banks. He is an electorate MP, unless you are promoting a dictatorship model where the PM can sack any MP at will? Scary thought.
11. Ad 11

    4 December 2013 at 11:24 am

    Far better than a simple resignation…

    … bnecause tactically we can watch the great rotting flower of Act on trial open during the election year and wrap itself around the current government.

    Mind you, Harawira and his entire family will probably do the same to Labour.
    Goes around comes around.
    • Bill Drees 11.1

      4 December 2013 at 12:30 pm

      Agree 100%.

      Labour supporters should be encouraging Banks and ACT to continue on this course. The stench will spread to the perfumed Key.
      • Ake ake ake 11.1.1

        4 December 2013 at 1:02 pm

        That is true.
        But Key would likely have been on the phone a lot.
        A by-election, an early general election – all on the books.
        Key would not be ruling anything out.

        Wave goodbye to:
        “It’s not a matter of political convenience, it’s a matter of political principle.”
12. Craig Y 12

    4 December 2013 at 11:25 am

    Remember this classic hit? Ah, memories…As John Banks sinuously writhed and swayed lubriciously to the strains of Kim Dotcom’s Amnesia, he wondered why he had returned to Parliament in the first place… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CvRSZxqk_I
13. Craig Y 13

    4 December 2013 at 11:25 am

    Remember this classic hit? Ah, memories…As John Banks sinuously writhed and swayed lubriciously to the strains of Kim Dotcom’s Amnesia, he wondered why he had returned to Parliament in the first place… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CvRSZxqk_I
14. North 14

    4 December 2013 at 11:33 am

    Couldn’t happen to a nicer talking-down bold faced hypocrite !

    Knighthoods to Kim and Key for services to New Zealand.

    Kim – unleashed rodent control.

    Key – cuppa tea and a rod for his own back.

    If this is theatre wait for April next year.

    KDC’s extradition hearing.
15. gobsmacked 15

    4 December 2013 at 11:36 am

    But ACT won’t quit. They will continue to exist, put up candidates, and waste votes on the right. Even 0.5% is a loss to the “bloc”.

    Epsom will revert to National, forget Craig in that electorate.
    • Lanthanide 15.1

      4 December 2013 at 12:02 pm

      Actually ACT winning a seat but not getting enough party votes to warrant it makes them an overhang, which is positive for the right.
      • gobsmacked 15.1.1

        4 December 2013 at 12:07 pm

        OK, I could have phrased it better … I think they that next time they will waste votes on the right.

        I just can’t see them holding Epsom or any other electorate. Too much baggage.
        • Steve Wrathall 15.1.1.1

          4 December 2013 at 12:34 pm

          Lots of posters here couldn’t see ACT holding Epsom in 2011
          • Tracey 15.1.1.1.1

            4 December 2013 at 1:27 pm

            do you think National will effectively stnd SIDE IN EPSOM, FOR act IN 2014? oops caps lock
            • Steve Wrathall 15.1.1.1.1.1

              4 December 2013 at 1:47 pm

              Whether the Nats hug the ACT candidate (2008, 2011) or not (2005), the voters of Epsom will do the right thing, regardless of how many tweets David Cunliffe sends them on election day
              • Tracey …

                4 December 2013 at 2:18 pm

                do you think National will effectively stand aside for ACT in Epsom in 2014?
        • Lanthanide 15.1.1.2

          4 December 2013 at 12:48 pm

          Agreed.
      • alwyn 15.1.2

        4 December 2013 at 1:13 pm

        That is a possible, but I would think a very unlikely situation, at least in the General seats.
        On the figures from the last election it would require a candidate to get far more votes in a single electorate than their party got in the entire country.
        The 120th quotient in the last election was 9,048. Any party that got more votes than that were entitled to a seat that is not an overhang one. Of the single seat parties Mana had 24,168 votes, ACT had 23,889 votes and United Future had 13,443 votes. All were well over the quotient for the last seat by wide margins.
        When I say that hey have to get more votes personaly than their party does I note that the lowest candidate winning vote was 12,064, much above the 9,048.
        The Maori seats are rather different and only 2 of the successful candidates (Turia and Mahutu) got more votes than the final quotient. The other 5 did not.
        It might be possible for a lone candidate to win in a Maori electorate and be an overhang seat but it doesn’t seem likely in a General one.
        There is one way to fiddle the whole thing of course. Set up an organisation such that you have two parties. One has candidates who run for electorate seats, but does NOT register the party for the list.
        The other part runs candidates only for the List, and has no electorate candidates. Call them Pelect and Plist.
        If that had happened at the last election, and been the National party that did it, they would have been entitled , via Natelect, to 44 seats. Via Natlist they would have been entitled to 59 seats. There would have been an additional 44 overhang seats.
        If the Labour party had done it they would have got 22 for Labelect and 34 for Lablist.
        This only works for large parties of course and it assumes nothing else happens.
16. Puckish Rogue 16

    4 December 2013 at 11:49 am

    Good

    Act still have a chance to put someone decent in at Epsom, with Banks gone Epsom can still be wobn by Act

    (Though his work with charter schools should be lauded)
    • gobsmacked 16.1

      4 December 2013 at 11:53 am

      PR – genuine question, for you or Steve or anyone sympathetic to ACT (not me, obviously).

      Do you think they should fight the next election, and (very probably) waste votes on the right?

      Or should they just pack it in?
      • Steve Wrathall 16.1.1

        4 December 2013 at 12:26 pm

        By that I presume you believe ACT won’t win Epsom. My answer to anyone predicting that is always the same: Are you prepared to make the same wager as Keith Locke did in 2005? And none of this body paint & G-string nonsense. It’s got to be the full monty
        • framu 16.1.1.1

          4 December 2013 at 12:44 pm

          you know what dogs do with cat shit? – thats the act brand now.

          Eaten, shat out, eaten again, vomited up then eaten once more

          so ACT might win epsom – and epsom will have firmly aligned itself with one of the most corrupt parties ever in NZ history

          cmon steve – whats ACTs mantra again?
          • One Anonymous Knucklehead 16.1.1.1.1

            5 December 2013 at 2:39 pm

            “It wasn’t me.”
      • Puckish Rogue 16.1.2

        4 December 2013 at 3:14 pm

        I think they should fight because there are more then enough numbers of people who support Acts policies (the original Act party not the warped version we have now) to justify them being in parliament to represent those people

        However they need to go back to their core policies and drop their ties to outfits like the SST, they need to get rid of their core group of conservatives, the Act party is (or at least was) a party based in libertarian ideals so they need to get back to that

        John Banks is a conservative, he should never have been in Act

        My opinion only of course
        • One Anonymous Knucklehead 16.1.2.1

          5 December 2013 at 4:51 pm

          Libertarians are Republicans Tories with bongs.
        • Francis 16.1.2.2

          5 December 2013 at 10:30 pm

          Problem is, National has a fairly strong libertarian policy base, and thus has taken a lot of the votes from ACT.
    • Tigger 16.2

      4 December 2013 at 11:55 am

      Lauded by? The Devil? Business?
    • Tracey 16.3

      4 December 2013 at 11:58 am

      A glimpse into the future

      http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/09/01/charter-schools-failed-promise.html

      http://www.bradenton.com/2012/10/30/4257940/florida-shameful-situation-on.html
    • framu 16.4

      4 December 2013 at 12:26 pm

      wouldnt the assorted criminals and thieves party need to be decent first, before they can hope of running someone decent?
    • CC 16.5

      4 December 2013 at 2:28 pm

      Yeah – Sweden’s PISA ratings plummeted worse than NZ thanks to Charter Schools. Sounds like typical ACT policy that should see them retain a presence in Parliament – preferably cleaning the dunnies at the minimum wage rate.
17. karol 17

    4 December 2013 at 11:52 am

    John Banks says there’s nothing here he wouldn’t do again – re the charges against him. video on Stuff.

    Lost his moral compass – if he ever had one.
18. Tracey 18

    4 December 2013 at 12:00 pm

    A few hours after declaring war on hooning boy racers, Auckland Mayor John Banks was pulled over for speeding on his new jetski in Hobson Bay.

    Mr Banks and his three child passengers – his two sons and a friend – were not wearing lifejackets, in breach of another bylaw.

    And the jetski was not registered, as required, with the Auckland Regional Council…

    He rejected any comparison with the hoonish antics of drivers on Quay St on Saturday night, saying “there was nothing at all dangerous about it in any shape or form”.

    “The difference is there wasn’t a solitary soul around to run over, run across or run in front of, or anything like that.”

    But the Harbourmaster’s duty skipper, Karl Koller, who pulled Mr Banks over, questioned this.

    “He was near other vessels and also in close proximity to land.

    “As you can imagine, something going as fast as [jetskis] do, there’s not a lot of time for error. If something goes wrong you need to be a little bit further away from land to stop yourself ending up on the land.”

    Mr Koller, who spotted the rule-breaking while on a patrol, said Mr Banks was travelling “well above” the five knots permitted within 200m of shore or 50m of another vessel.

    The jetski was planing, which indicated it was doing at least 10 or 12 knots.

    Mr Koller said an apologetic Mr Banks was let off with a warning…

    In his first week in office, Mr Banks also had trouble with the traffic rules on land, copping three tickets for misparking his new Bentley.
19. karol 19

    4 December 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Question #1 for Question Time today:

    Hon DAVID CUNLIFFE to the Prime Minister: Does he have confidence in the stability of his Government?

    And Colin Craig should take note of Question #5:

    SIMON O’CONNOR to the Minister of Science and Innovation: What steps is the Government taking to improve the understanding, skills and adoption of science and technology in New Zealand society?
    • Lanthanide 19.1

      4 December 2013 at 12:06 pm

      Hmm, bit of a lame #1 question. Be better to be asking that towards the end of Banks’ actual trial. All Key is going to say is “yes, I have full confidence in the stability of my government”.

      Remember he has the MP votes as well on confidence and supply, unless they chose to broke that agreement. His government is stable, it’s just a matter of whether he’ll be able to pass right-wing legislation or not.
    • Tracey 19.2

      4 December 2013 at 12:27 pm

      I wonder what cunliffe’s supplementary is
20. Brett Dale 20

    4 December 2013 at 12:12 pm

    And the conservative party, stocks just went up, thus giving the right more MP’s and handing victory to National.

    But hey, you guys are the ones that love MMP.
    • framu 20.1

      4 December 2013 at 12:21 pm

      “thus giving the right more MP’s and handing victory to National.”

      explain how brett – dont we need an election first?
    • Pascal's bookie 20.2

      4 December 2013 at 12:24 pm

      Yeah, because all those swing voters are just aching for a Colin Craig in cabinet yup.
    • you_fool 20.3

      4 December 2013 at 12:26 pm

      Because corruption by current ministers looks real good for the government – Also no one is fooled that Banks is not-national, so really all the mud will stick on National, thus decreasing their portion of the vote. Whilst the conservatives might pick some of it up, it is a zero-sum game leaving 40% as 40%, Lab-green stay in 45%+
    • onsos 20.4

      4 December 2013 at 2:29 pm

      The Conservative Party will not pick up ACT votes; the two parties are fundamentally not aligned. Craig will win support at the expense of National.

      The majority of the people who vote Conservative would otherwise have voted National. National would rather have those votes. Craig may also pick up votes from NZF, and in evangelicals who would otherwise not vote, but that is much less clear.

      It is not clear how Craig will win his way into parliament. He can’t win an electorate. He could, theoretically, wend his way over 5%, but it’s looking unlikely. If the Conservatives win support, but don’t get to Parliament, National’s prospects are grim.

      National could give him an electorate, but that relies on the electorate playing ball–and it is not clear that this will happen. Epsom is not an option; Craig does not fit with the electorate at all, and (while it is utterly blue), boundary changes make it unlikely that Craig would win. There has been talk of East Coast Bays, but it would be a bold call to predict a Conservatives victory there.

      The bigger problem for National is this, though: the more credible it is that the Conservatives will get to parliament, the less people will vote for National. If the Conservatives get to parliament, it will be because of a National gift, and it will mean that National will be dependent on them for confidence and supply. Moreover, this will be clear well before the election.

      This association will compromise an already compromised National party. Middle New Zealand will leave National in droves.
      • Tracey 20.4.1

        4 December 2013 at 2:41 pm

        dont the majority of people who vote ACT, vote National with no ACT?

        I agree with you that the Conservatives worship religion and ACT worships money. We are better off with neither.

        At least the Greens want to protect the environment, something we actually need to survive.
21. Will@Welly 21

    4 December 2013 at 12:15 pm

    I bet Key wishes the C.I.A. had spirited Kim DotCom away with them after the raid, thereby shutting down part of the debate. As for “Honest John”, perhaps he should get used to sleeping on a hard mattress, cold showers, and sleeping in a bunk. As for hanging around with unsavoury figures, well John already does that, so prison life will be no different, infact, the clientele there might be more honest.
    • fender 21.1

      4 December 2013 at 12:42 pm

      Any discussion about “Honest John’s” sleeping arrangements in jail has to include this gem from McFlock “Unfair? It would be quite dangerous – if banks were to lie down on a straight bed, he’d be guaranteed to accidentally smother at least one of his faces.”

      Fu*king classic..
22. captain hook 22

    4 December 2013 at 12:22 pm

    the little twep should quit now.
23. Brett Dale 23

    4 December 2013 at 12:30 pm

    So there you go supporters of MMP, we will now have Colin Craig in Power at the next election. A man who wont beleive we walked on the moon, unless Baby Jesus tells him personally.

    Anti science Politicians now in power!
    • framu 23.1

      4 December 2013 at 12:37 pm

      you missed the bit where banks doesnt believe in evolution – so whats different?

      also – you seem to have a crystal ball
    • Lanthanide 23.2

      4 December 2013 at 12:51 pm

      Yes, because those fringe ring-wing parties are so generically interchangeable since they don’t actually have any principles other than “screw the poor”.
    • Tracey 23.3

      4 December 2013 at 1:41 pm

      Dont blame supporters of MMP, blame any party who steps aside to let hm in.
24. karol 24

    4 December 2013 at 12:46 pm

    So, according to the NZ Herald, John Banks claims:

    Asked whether he regretted returning to Parliament, Mr Banks said it had been difficult.

    “This is a very different place to when I arrived under Robert Muldoon.”

    “It’s much more feral, much more septic, a lot more nasty.”

    This is the same John Banks who was at the centre of a very extremely nasty smear campaign to undermine PM Helen Clark – as researched by Lewis Stoddart and reported on in his 2008 paper:

    Helen Clark, the first woman elected Prime Minister of New Zealand, has for decades been the subject of political attacks. These have been made on the basis of her history as an academic, her gender, domestic status and personal life, and not least her politics. John Banks and Lindsay Perigo, in their host roles on the Radio Pacific breakfast talk show The First Edition, crystallised various of these attack strategies into a characterisation which I describe as ‘communist lesbian dictator’. […]

    The primary means by which Banks and Perigo characterise Clark as a communist lesbian dictator is by constructing an us/them moiety division, containing in the ‘them’ group Clark, her government, its supporters and an astonishing assortment of the world’s evildoers; and in the ‘us’ group the hosts, certain of their political allies, and the ‘battlers from Struggle Street’ [who make up the notional Radio Pacific audience. The dualism is established by means of a sustained symbolic attack campaign primarily invoking well-known symbols of the communist threat, a prurient/deviant lesbian ‘feminazi’
    • wyndham 24.1

      4 December 2013 at 1:25 pm

      http://www.gaynz.com/articles/publish/2/article_4884.php

      If you want examples of the “real” Banks, try the above link.
    • North 24.2

      4 December 2013 at 2:48 pm

      Perigo needs to be conscious of the nowadays power of social media.
      • CnrJoe 24.2.1

        4 December 2013 at 6:39 pm

        Indeed
      • North 24.2.2

        4 December 2013 at 9:01 pm

        You see I could tell interesting and fully verifiable tales about the wondrous Lindsay Perigo if he, of all people, would persist with homophobia for political purpose.
25. bad12 25

    4 December 2013 at 12:56 pm

    Banks’s little ‘i will stay on in the Parliament until the election’ is one hell of a big Presupposition, befor that little scene comes to be a reality Bank’s has to first escape a conviction from the High Court…
    • karol 25.1

      4 December 2013 at 1:02 pm

      Also note that Cunliffe said in his Radio Live interview today that he thinks an early election would be likely, and that he is totally ready for it. So Banks could be right about being there til the next election.
26. amirite 26

    4 December 2013 at 1:20 pm

    Lest we forget – Banksie at his racist fascist bigot best:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOAu5bjZBDk&w=560&h=315 …]
    • ianmac 26.1

      4 December 2013 at 1:34 pm

      Ugh amrite. That Banks fellow! Yuck.
    • Tim 26.2

      4 December 2013 at 1:38 pm

      Oh you hater you @ amirite! Don’t you know you’re supposed to feel pity and sorrow for John Banks’ predicament!
      Don’t you understand it’s all a left wing conspiracy!
      Don’t you understand that JAB has only ever attempted good for his constituency, and fought for good, DECENCY, the Kiwi way, philanthropic endeavour – all in amongst his concern for various little European waifs, and EACH and EVERY other DECENT clean living (including pump-filled alcoholics – ‘cos it’s legal’; private property owning (including those benefitting from the pilfered) NZ People; and of course, most of all – his sponsors!
      I’m amazed you could even think ill of this perfect specimen representing those NZ People!
      I’m sure there are many in that Epsom lektrit that’ll be considering ways of rallying in his defense.

      (Good luck with that)
      • amirite 26.2.1

        4 December 2013 at 1:48 pm

        Ah, but I haven’t finished yet – here’s this little chronology of Banks’s homophobia as well:

        http://www.gaynz.com/articles/publish/2/article_4884.php
        • Tim 26.2.1.1

          4 December 2013 at 8:36 pm

          Oh @amirite! I couldn’t possibly click on that vile internet site! It has “gay” in the URL.
          Besides, I’m too busy avoiding whaleoil slicks and penguin shit disguising itself behind a wall of ‘incisive, investigative’ jonolism and polling – judging that “voice of the Nation”, …. and Natrad’s nicest people on this God given planet Earth.

          (We’re really lucky people aye – it’s truly a God zone with good wholesome, democratically erected representatives in our Parly armint, wholesome values cognisant of their responsibilities over and above their personal greed).

          Have faith (brutha!) …. or have another toke.
          We might even get Judy Bailey – “the Mother of the Nation” to endorse them all some time soon.

          Just as an aside – I understand there’ll be an alternative to Destiny firing up soon – in case you’re wondering about alternative retirement plan not locked away behind that synthetic gated community.
          It’ll have Excellent credentials – truly, really really natural … a former cop, nothing in his closet – including matters sexual – just a good wholesome God-faring citizen we can all hope to worship and aspire to be alike.
    • The Pink Postman 26.3

      6 December 2013 at 12:42 pm

      Yes I well remember the disgusting “Honi incident ” with that other racist Tory John Carter.On Radio Pacific talk back ,that had the rednecks frothing at the mouth.
27. amirite 27

    4 December 2013 at 1:39 pm

    John Armstrong now bleating that Banks ‘was never going to stand again’, because he was unhappy he’s a one band Act man. Basically admitting he’s just Key’s sock puppet in Parliament. Doesn’t see anything wrong or immoral in that,so very right wing.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11166885
    • Tracey 27.1

      4 December 2013 at 2:05 pm

      Was John key supposed to arrange things so he wouldnt have to stand trial???

      I have some direct knowledge of Mr Banks as Minister of Police over a client of mine who bought some disks from citibank… my impressions of some of his actions did not sit with his depiction of himself today.
      • Anne 27.1.1

        4 December 2013 at 4:07 pm

        Aha Tracey, I have a vague recollection of “disks bought from Citibank”. Something to do with the Winebox case was it not?
        • Tracey 27.1.1.1

          4 December 2013 at 4:46 pm

          My case was a small part of it. The winebox is one thing that stops me from villifying Peters completely like so many do.
          • Anne 27.1.1.1.1

            4 December 2013 at 5:39 pm

            Me too. He stood up to the moneyed and powerful boys and eventually won. They all had to leave the country before the police could get to them. 🙂

            I often wonder if that is the real reason Rodney Hide, John Key and the rest of them so hate Peters. He cocked his fingers at them.
            • RedBaronCV 27.1.1.1.1.1

              4 December 2013 at 9:18 pm

              I’ve always had a soft spot for Winston over the winebox. Have always wondered whether the campaign(?) against him at the 2008 election was a bit of payback for the wine box.
              • jaymam …

                5 December 2013 at 9:24 am

                Has anyone checked the whole of the Winebox for Bankers Trust?
          • Rodel 27.1.1.1.2

            4 December 2013 at 8:43 pm

            Could be Hooton the fabricator ( tongue in cheek or another part of his anatomy)
            Oh Jeez it could be the return of Mr Hyde (Falstaff himself)
            or maybe Dr Jekyll (Don that is).
            But seriously I think Rodney might see himself as released from his toxicity and beloved by the Epsomians again.(NB I am not joking!)

            But please God..not Don.He is so 20th century boringly unconvincing
            .
            How about Cam? After English and his justification for his own fiscal incompetence I need someone better to laugh at.
            • Rodel 27.1.1.1.2.1

              4 December 2013 at 9:24 pm

              Sorry…Should have been in reply to Karol (28)
28. karol 28

    4 December 2013 at 2:14 pm

    Bradbury has tweeted that hooton is standing for ACT leader – true?
    • Ake ake ake 28.1

      4 December 2013 at 2:17 pm

      How can ACT get any uglier, nastier and more corrupt?!?!
      • Arfamo 28.1.1

        4 December 2013 at 2:22 pm

        How can ACT get any uglier, nastier and more corrupt?!?

        Easily. They just keep doing what they already do. I think they call it policy development.
    • Tracey 28.2

      4 December 2013 at 2:20 pm

      Hooten lives in the Epsom electorate so its probably not true…
29. Penny Bright 29

    4 December 2013 at 2:29 pm

    Seems ‘dodgy john’ has almost gone?

    Next – ‘shonky’ John Key?

    Penny Bright

    http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com

    http://www.pennybright4epsom.org.nz

    http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz
30. Tracey 30

    4 December 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Isn’t “not reading stuff” what he did when an ED of Huljich? Seems in banksie’s world doing right, includes taking money for not doing his job.
31. Tracey 31

    4 December 2013 at 3:57 pm

    When Huljich was in court the herald reported on it as follows

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10774195

    I emailed the author as follows

    “Isn’t this the company that Don Brash and current
    Minister John Banks sat on the Board? Surely their gross misjudgment at best
    was worthy of mentioning int he article too? Afterall they hold themselves
    as being so wise as to tell everyone else how to run the economy and their
    lives and they couldn’t oversee a simple fund?”

    Hamish replied as follows;

    “Hi Tracey,
    I put this in the story I filed but it appears to have been edited out
    through the proofing process. I can’t do any more than that.

    Cheers,
    Hamish Fletcher”

    Rather makes a mockery of any media bashing or whatever of Banks, as suggested by Prebble.
32. North 32

    4 December 2013 at 9:06 pm

    Prebble ? Might as well go out and bay at the moon as to take seriously anything that crazy scab says.
33. peterlepaysan 33

    4 December 2013 at 11:48 pm

    Actually the one we should feel sorry fo is Mrs Banks, and the kids.

    Imagine him permenently underfoot.

    sheer purgatory!
34. Mike 34

    8 December 2013 at 9:39 pm

    Paul Henry would be the perfect candidate for the ACT party leader: he fits the necessary criteria: narcissism, lack of common sense or good taste, inability to comprehend that some people do not agree with him, obsession with wealth and fame, foul-mouthed, contempt for people who he sees as inferior (which is just about everyone else), dodgyness. Do you have his phone number?

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