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		<title>By: illuminatedtiger</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/john-key-still-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-188000</link>
		<dc:creator>illuminatedtiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think all the wingnuts are just having a cry over not coming up with anything better themselves. You have to remember that the best National has ever come up with is &quot;Luke I am your Lesbian Father&quot; and nobody found that the least bit funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think all the wingnuts are just having a cry over not coming up with anything better themselves. You have to remember that the best National has ever come up with is &#8220;Luke I am your Lesbian Father&#8221; and nobody found that the least bit funny.</p>
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		<title>By: BLiP</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/john-key-still-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-187758</link>
		<dc:creator>BLiP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep. Quite right. The RWNJ&#039;s are far too concerned with what&#039;s best for &quot;me&quot; rather than what&#039;s best for &quot;us all&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. Quite right. The RWNJ&#8217;s are far too concerned with what&#8217;s best for &#8220;me&#8221; rather than what&#8217;s best for &#8220;us all&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/john-key-still-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-187755</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your reaction shows that you really don&#039;t get it. Modern activists use all of the tools available to them, and the net is the perfect environment to cooperate to get results - even amongst disparate groups. I&#039;d expect that you&#039;d argue that sitting in boring meetings arguing about doctrinal differences is what they should be doing. But it is the perfect way to avoid social change - and is going the way of the dinosaur. 

Pranks like this are amusing, takes very little effort, allows many people to participate, and allows cooperation to develop. It also presents a perfect opportunity to demonstrate the difference between the generations that grew up with the net all around them and those who didn&#039;t. Perfect for young and not so young activists with a sense of humour.

Perhaps that ability to cooperate in a gentle joke is what annoyed the humorless wing-nuts the most. I often get the impression that they are too anti and angry much of the time to cooperate on anything positive, let alone cooperate on a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your reaction shows that you really don&#8217;t get it. Modern activists use all of the tools available to them, and the net is the perfect environment to cooperate to get results &#8211; even amongst disparate groups. I&#8217;d expect that you&#8217;d argue that sitting in boring meetings arguing about doctrinal differences is what they should be doing. But it is the perfect way to avoid social change &#8211; and is going the way of the dinosaur. </p>
<p>Pranks like this are amusing, takes very little effort, allows many people to participate, and allows cooperation to develop. It also presents a perfect opportunity to demonstrate the difference between the generations that grew up with the net all around them and those who didn&#8217;t. Perfect for young and not so young activists with a sense of humour.</p>
<p>Perhaps that ability to cooperate in a gentle joke is what annoyed the humorless wing-nuts the most. I often get the impression that they are too anti and angry much of the time to cooperate on anything positive, let alone cooperate on a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/john-key-still-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-187742</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg: After you mentioned it, it was obvious that google would localize the search. 

It was good finding a site that did the rankings by country. That was the fifth one I tried, and the only one that did the task cleanly. 

But what was interesting was that the google bomb was even featured in the countries I listed within the first 100. I&#039;d take a bet that it wasn&#039;t remotely there 18 months ago. In the nz &#039;world&#039; it was somewhere between 20 and 30 in my vague recollection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg: After you mentioned it, it was obvious that google would localize the search. </p>
<p>It was good finding a site that did the rankings by country. That was the fifth one I tried, and the only one that did the task cleanly. </p>
<p>But what was interesting was that the google bomb was even featured in the countries I listed within the first 100. I&#8217;d take a bet that it wasn&#8217;t remotely there 18 months ago. In the nz &#8216;world&#8217; it was somewhere between 20 and 30 in my vague recollection.</p>
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		<title>By: graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn ... are you people still congratulating yourselves over this childish prank from over a year ago?

Seriously, Iprent, you got it right when you said, &quot;it may be juvenile even at my advanced age&quot;. Yeah - it is. Amusing? Yes, in the same way fake vomit and whoopee cushions are, I guess, to certain people.

I&#039;m just surprised that anyone who wants to be taken seriously as an activist, like rocky apparently does, would waste their time on infantile little stunts like this.

Captcha: minds (as in maybe you should find something more worthwhile to occupy yours with ...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn &#8230; are you people still congratulating yourselves over this childish prank from over a year ago?</p>
<p>Seriously, Iprent, you got it right when you said, &#8220;it may be juvenile even at my advanced age&#8221;. Yeah &#8211; it is. Amusing? Yes, in the same way fake vomit and whoopee cushions are, I guess, to certain people.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just surprised that anyone who wants to be taken seriously as an activist, like rocky apparently does, would waste their time on infantile little stunts like this.</p>
<p>Captcha: minds (as in maybe you should find something more worthwhile to occupy yours with &#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 08:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My choice of words was poor. What I meant was he won&#039;t feature prominantly. Obviously he will always be in there somewhere no matter where you do the search from. Interesting to see the rankings though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My choice of words was poor. What I meant was he won&#8217;t feature prominantly. Obviously he will always be in there somewhere no matter where you do the search from. Interesting to see the rankings though!</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
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		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong - he does feature

The keyword &#039;clueless&#039; looking at www.johnkey.co.nz on google.
From the US - 98th.
From the UK - 48th
From Aussie - 64th
From India    - 65th

And then I ran out of tries. Useful site - http://www.kpmrs.com/

I&#039;ll update the post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong &#8211; he does feature</p>
<p>The keyword &#8216;clueless&#8217; looking at <a href="http://www.johnkey.co.nz" rel="nofollow">http://www.johnkey.co.nz</a> on google.<br />
From the US &#8211; 98th.<br />
From the UK &#8211; 48th<br />
From Aussie &#8211; 64th<br />
From India    &#8211; 65th</p>
<p>And then I ran out of tries. Useful site &#8211; <a href="http://www.kpmrs.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kpmrs.com/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll update the post</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
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		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting - I&#039;ll log in later to a US server and try it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting &#8211; I&#8217;ll log in later to a US server and try it.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason Jk is 7th is that google gives preference to NZ results when searching from within NZ (even when you click search entire web) . Do the same search from the states and he won&#039;t feature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason Jk is 7th is that google gives preference to NZ results when searching from within NZ (even when you click search entire web) . Do the same search from the states and he won&#8217;t feature.</p>
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		<title>By: BLiP</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/john-key-still-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-187656</link>
		<dc:creator>BLiP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johnkey.co.nz/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Clueless &lt;/a&gt;. . . . &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johnkey.co.nz/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Clueless&lt;/a&gt; . . . . &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johnkey.co.nz/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Clueless &lt;/a&gt;. . . . &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johnkey.co.nz/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Clueless &lt;/a&gt;. . . . 

Just to keep the ball.

&lt;strong&gt;[lprent: That is the unsubtle approach. Try using title=&#039;clueless&#039; as an additional tag. ]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.johnkey.co.nz/" rel="nofollow">Clueless </a>. . . . <a href="http://www.johnkey.co.nz/" rel="nofollow">Clueless</a> . . . . <a href="http://www.johnkey.co.nz/" rel="nofollow">Clueless </a>. . . . <a href="http://www.johnkey.co.nz/" rel="nofollow">Clueless </a>. . . . </p>
<p>Just to keep the ball.</p>
<p><strong>[lprent: That is the unsubtle approach. Try using title='clueless' as an additional tag. ]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: PT</title>
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		<dc:creator>PT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>prentice at 12pm &quot;
As I said  humourless wingnuts  Say anything even mildly detrimental against their Dear Leader, and look  one appears in a puff of smoke.
&quot;

prentice at 108pm &quot;
Are you equating a google-bomb on John Key with some of the vile rumors that the wingnuts were pushing around about Helen and Peter? Should I go back and display what you thought was â€˜humour&#039; in 2007/8?

I suspect you need to get a bit of perspective about the difference between humour and unsubstantiated and vile speculation.
&quot;

so predictable prentice, here you pop an eyeball just like i said. you want unsubstantiated speculation, REMEMBER H FEE prentice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>prentice at 12pm &#8221;<br />
As I said  humourless wingnuts  Say anything even mildly detrimental against their Dear Leader, and look  one appears in a puff of smoke.<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>prentice at 108pm &#8221;<br />
Are you equating a google-bomb on John Key with some of the vile rumors that the wingnuts were pushing around about Helen and Peter? Should I go back and display what you thought was â€˜humour&#8217; in 2007/8?</p>
<p>I suspect you need to get a bit of perspective about the difference between humour and unsubstantiated and vile speculation.<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>so predictable prentice, here you pop an eyeball just like i said. you want unsubstantiated speculation, REMEMBER H FEE prentice</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/john-key-still-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-187639</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how much this upset(s) them! It&#039;s really quite pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how much this upset(s) them! It&#8217;s really quite pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/john-key-still-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-187638</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you equating a google-bomb on &lt;a title=&#039;clueless&#039; href=&quot;http://www.johnkey.co.nz&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;John Key&lt;/a&gt; with some of the vile rumors that the wingnuts were pushing around about Helen and Peter? Should I go back and display what you thought was &#039;humour&#039; in 2007/8?

I suspect you need to get a bit of perspective about the difference between humour and unsubstantiated and vile speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you equating a google-bomb on <a title='clueless' href="http://www.johnkey.co.nz" rel="nofollow">John Key</a> with some of the vile rumors that the wingnuts were pushing around about Helen and Peter? Should I go back and display what you thought was &#8216;humour&#8217; in 2007/8?</p>
<p>I suspect you need to get a bit of perspective about the difference between humour and unsubstantiated and vile speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/john-key-still-clueless/comment-page-1/#comment-187636</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d just woken up and was running on sluggish brain function - I was playing in a MMOG until 5am. 

Lyn has been somewhat busy over the last few months. So I&#039;m doing most of the household chores like cooking, rubbish, dishes, and washing. Well apart from cleaning - she thinks that my cleaning standards leave a lot to be desired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d just woken up and was running on sluggish brain function &#8211; I was playing in a MMOG until 5am. </p>
<p>Lyn has been somewhat busy over the last few months. So I&#8217;m doing most of the household chores like cooking, rubbish, dishes, and washing. Well apart from cleaning &#8211; she thinks that my cleaning standards leave a lot to be desired.</p>
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		<title>By: PT</title>
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		<dc:creator>PT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>say helen is a big toothed childless leftie acadmeic and prentice pops an eyeball</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>say helen is a big toothed childless leftie acadmeic and prentice pops an eyeball</p>
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