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Just get the f*ck out

Written By: - Date published: 7:50 pm, February 12th, 2013 - 126 comments
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Prosser, just f*cken resign. There’s no place for the likes of you. You’ve been elected purely to make up numbers for Peters. And you couldn’t even do that without being a disgusting bigot. You’re not the only rightwinger playing up race fears. Hooton claims Indonesia will invade due to climate change. Key tells scary stories of made-up boat people. But you’re the worst. Just go.

PS. I’m still not regretting that NZF is back in Parliament. Without them, National would have a majority alone. Avoiding that’s worth having to deal with a racist and Horan. Plus we get Tracey Martin and she’s gold. Actually it’s going quite well. If NZF collapses this term, having done its job in 2011, it means no Winnie kingmaker in 2014, which improves the odds for a Labour-Green government.

126 comments on “Just get the f*ck out”

  1. Andre 1

    He is a bigot first .Second what has this man done to expect to be part of ruling of New Zealand ????

    • Liberty 1.1

      looks like Labour has a little problem with it future coalition partner. This latest deplorable attack on a minority is no different than Winston anti Chinese rants.
      That only leaves the Green Taliban. That means giving up the Finance minister position.
      Labour might as will stay at its rightful station. As the opposition.

  2. Yep and memo to Labour. We cannot go into coalition with these bastards. Between their refusal to accept that climate change is occurring and their innate racism they are a bunch of losers.

    • higherstandard 2.1

      As has been noted previously, your good self along with the majority of the labour caucus would fellate Winston within an inch of his life if he was the difference between the treasury benches and three more years in opposition

      • mickysavage 2.1.1

        Nope HS if the treasury benches depended on Prosser’s support I would say no way. But I am sure Key would not be so principled this time …

        • Akldnut 2.1.1.1

          HS Prosser’s a tosser – you would have more of a chance than him and you’ve got sweet F A

    • Mike 2.2

      I’m not a NZF supporter and certainly think dickhead Prosser should be fired as an MP.

      But since when have they (NZF members) refused to accept that climate change is happening? Or do you mean they don’t accept that anthropomorphic CO2 emissions are causing out of control global warming? I would say pretty much everyone accepts that climate change is occurring, just as it has done for the last 4.5 billion years.

      You should probably not generalize either. When you say “their” innate racism, you’re implying that they are all racist? Hey, you could be correct, but “they” don’t all seem that extreme to me; and I certainly haven’t seen any racist NZF policy documents.

      They’re not all bastards either.

    • Rogue Trooper 2.3

      this man is unbelievable a nd a great embarassment, along with Peters (“the twin evils of diversity and multi-culturalism” ) Is he drunk all the freakin time? And Prosser-”this is my country”??? and there is no “man-made climate warming”???. UNFREAKIN-BELIEVABLE. wotta lost soul that Wishart is!

  3. fatty 3

    NZ First’s racism does attract some people…it might ensure kiwi_prometheus’ vote goes to them

    • Sosoo 3.1

      Some people? I know more people who have some variant of these Neanderthal views than people who don’t.

  4. Hayden 4

    The NZ First list did have a kind of “eh, who cares, no-one’s going to get in other than Winston” look about it.

  5. Te Reo Putake 5

    Great post, Zet! Amazing that Winston would dump a bloke currently only accused of wrongdoing while keeping an actual knuckledragging racist on board. Even Wishart seemed to disown him (saying on that 7 whatsit show that if he’d been awake when he skim-read the piece, he’d have edited it for human consumption or somesuch).

    edit: video here: http://tvnz.co.nz/seven-sharp/investigate-editor-reacts-nz-first-mp-s-anti-muslim-column-video-5340077

    • McFlock 5.1

      Investigate’s editor doesn’t even investigate what he’s publishing? Why am I not surprised?

    • Don't worry be happy 5.2

      He’s a bigot not a racist as ‘being a Muslim” is like “being a Catholic”…i.e. belonging to a certain (world wide, hence multi racial) religion. Although he’s clearly stupid enough to think that someone can ‘look like a Muslim’ and therefore should be kept off planes (between certain ages and if male I think the craziness goes).

      Though you know, because it’s really late and I up with a sick child and not thinking that straight…there may well be a certain type that should actually be kept off planes…dress in suits, usually short, male, self important plonkers with loud braying voices, computers and Iphones..often hauling along a bit of eye candy about the same age as their rug…you know the ones that crashed the World’s economy 4 years ago and counting…the ones with their expensive Italian leather handmade shoes on the throats of the poor…Keep the Bankers off the planes I say!

      Child asleep. Nite nite Standanistas

      • toad 5.2.1

        The “Wogistan” reference would indicate his bigotry is both anti-Muslim and racist. “Wog” is a term of racial vilification, probably second in offensiveness only to “nigger”.

  6. TheContrarian 6

    Does anyone have a link to Hooten’s comments about Indonesia out of interest?

      • TheContrarian 6.1.1

        Can’t listen to that right now – watching the cricket.

        But I do know that the threat of war/invasion due to a changing climate is a very real threat…if not to New Zealand but in the wider context.

        • felixviper 6.1.1.1

          From what I remember Hoots wasn’t really saying Indo would invade, he was more saying that if climate change was real, which it obviously isn’t, then we’d be at risk from invasion eventually, and if those stupid Greenies really thought climate change was real then they should be more focused on defense, but he doesn’t care because it’s all a big hoax anyway.

          Or something like that.

          For what it’s worth, I agree with him – and you. (Not about climate change being a hoax, about the need for more focus on defense as an isolated food producing country in a rapidly changing world.)

          • TheContrarian 6.1.1.1.1

            I don’t think climate change is a hoax.

            I’m not sure Hooton does either. Not from anything I have read of his (which isn’t comprehensive admittedly).

            • felixviper 6.1.1.1.1.1

              Sorry TC, didn’t mean to suggest that you did. I meant I agreed with you about the potential for threat of invasion, not with whatever opinion Hooton is being paid to have on climate change.

              • TheContrarian

                Yeah I think we’ll be OK but in the worst case scenario a lot of places will find themselves under some extreme pressure from their neighbours.

                Not a pleasant vision of the future.

                • RedLogix

                  For what it’s worth I thought Hoots was for once making a valid (if somewhat mischievous) point.

                  While I think it implausible we’ll see lots of Indonesian boat people anytime soon; it’s not unrealistic to think that in maybe a few decades large shiploads of refugees from anywhere on the planet might start arriving in numbers. That poses some pretty intractable tactical problems for us because by the time they arrive in our territorial waters, it’s too late to send them anywhere else.

                  Given that shooting them out of the water isn’t a good option, perhaps we could let the people stay … but scrap the ship. The world would pretty soon run out of suitable ships and the process would be self-limiting?

                  • Surely if these people make the journey at great risk to themselves and their families because they are escaping ‘whatever’ then they should be looked after – I don’t really get why that is so difficult – is it a bunker mentality perhaps.

                    • RedLogix

                      That’s exactly what I said. The ‘shooting them out of the water’ crack is black irony.

                      But exactly how many refugees would you be happy to see here? Got a number in mind?

                    • No the number is irrelevant and focusing on that is focusing on scarcity – I’d rather try and look after those less fortunate, scared witless, suffering people and if that means some rich arseholes lose their second or third house to put people in I say good!

                      edit – oh and maybe some of the dairy farmers can cut their cows down and the land could be used for the common good instead of their selfish greed too.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      But exactly how many refugees would you be happy to see here? Got a number in mind?

                      It wholly depends on the systems we set up to receive and integrate them, and what we as a nation expect from them.

                      But at an absolute maximum responding to extreme humanitarian circumstances, I would suggest 1 refugee per year per 500 resident NZers.

                      That’s 9,000 refugees per year.

                    • RedLogix

                      9,000 per year … or a couple of big ships. At most.

                    • Colonial Weka

                      I’d want to see how many people NZ land can sustain, bioregion by bioregion, and then we can think better about who we can welcome.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      9,000 per year … or a couple of big ships. At most.

                      Yep. Could we physically do much larger numbers? Sure, for a short time. Maybe 100,000 pa for a year or three. But that would end real quick with a political or social backlash.

                    • yeah so each according to their need is only for some, preferably those like *us*. Any number is bogus because it automatically implies triage and a grasping of privilege for those already here, maintained at the expense of those who really need help. Why is any particular person here more deserving than someone arriving in need of help – they aren’t in my book.

                    • lol ‘social backlash’ – from who?

                      just another nimby argument cv

                    • Colonial Viper

                      You’re right of course MM. But too many NZers are just fine with NZ children hungry and in poverty. What makes you think they would give that much more consideration to children from far away lands.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      just another nimby argument cv

                      yeah, it is. And at a certain stage, a political party is going to use it very effectively and throw the other lot out. No refugees then.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      yeah so each according to their need is only for some, preferably those like *us*.

                      Not really, because as you know, we can’t even apply this to New Zealanders.

                    • RedLogix

                      Well MM so no upper limit? OK … there will be around 9b people on earth sometime soon. If say 20% of them become climate refugees, that’s 1.8b people.

                      If just 5% of them decide to come to this country, then that’s oh … 100m people. (Back of envelope guesswork … feel free to insert your own assumptions)

                      How do you imagine that might work out ? In terms of who really owns this country?

                      I’m not being mischievous, just tossing around some sense of the magnitude of the challenge and what choices we might face.

                    • It just sounds like a version of yellow peril to me red.

                      My conclusions within this thread are based on NEED and the ability to get here through the almost insurmountable hardships and difficulties, not putting planes on to fly them here.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      If 0.5% decide to come to NZ that’s 10M people. You know in a situation like that RL, some ugliness will be inevitable.

                    • and I am not meaning to imply racism here in any way. I agree it is a big problem that we need to think about and get ready for. I just think the opportunities to help people outweigh the fear of being overrun.

                    • RedLogix

                      Yellow peril? It’s precisely the same scenario Maori faced in the 1840′s … there were only some several hundred thousand of them and the European colonisers, while sailing in tiny, dangerous ships from the far-side of the planet, numbered in their tens of millions. And we’re still trying to mop up the consequences of that.

                      Numbers are not racist.

                    • very ironic indeed

                      as tangata whenua have somehow retained the culture and as that culture has evolved into what we see today, I’m sure ‘kiwi’ culture will do the same if it robust enough and if it actually exists

                    • McFlock

                      on the bright side, it would sort out the 2050 retirement bubble problem.

                      Less flippantly, though, I don’t reckon that all that many folks would actually be in a position to make the trip, and I similarly think that those that try for NZ would still be in deep strife, like they would be today if they tried (our glorious leader’s “intelligence” notwithstanding).

                      We still need to start using our land sustainably, though. Move away from cows and start planting environment-suitable crops. I wonder if olives or dates would grow well in canterbury? Apply the same methods that put wine in Central Otago.

          • geoff 6.1.1.1.2

            Let’s not forget that when Hooton raised that issue, it was completely unrelated to what was being discussed. He only raised it to have a go at the Greens because they are the only party pushing properly left wing policies.
            He then went on to sing the praises of David Shearer. Hmm.
            I presume he is pursuing this campaign because he, and the Right, are shitting themselves that real left wing ideas might start getting traction in NZ.
            His thinking will be: If National can’t get a third term then at the very least the growing Green influence must be minimised in the next Labour led government.

        • Colonial Weka 6.1.1.2

          “But I do know that the threat of war/invasion due to a changing climate is a very real threat…if not to New Zealand but in the wider context.”

          Yes, but the US is likely to get in first. Anyone commenting on an American invasion of NZ once tshtf?

          • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.2.1

            Yes, but the US is likely to get in first. Anyone commenting on an American invasion of NZ once tshtf?

            The US prefers to expand its empire through political and economic domination, not occupation. It does use it’s many international military bases to project both military might and act as economic incentives to the host country, however.

            China is the same. China doesn’t want to be an occupying colonial power like Britain, Spain, France or Belgium was. You don’t need to be in this globalised world of trade and capital flows that they created.

            • Colonial Weka 6.1.1.2.1.1

              At the moment. We were talking about when the CC/PO resource wars start. You may be right though. Another term or two of NACT and I’m sure all sorts of things will be set up that we don’t know about so that when tshtf we will become a state of the US rather than an occupied territory.

        • James Henderson 6.1.1.3

          During severe climate change, the last thing any country in the world is going to have the resources to do is mount an ultra-long range seaborne invasion, presumably followed by mass colonisation. Far more cost-efficient to try to shore up what they have.

          Of course, there will be resource wars in neighbouring countries but a situation like Hoots dreams of is just nuts.

          And he knows it, it’s just an excuse for him to claim that the Greens are not genuine about climate change (because they don’t support the military investment he claims is needed), and, therefore, climate change isn’t real.

          • RedLogix 6.1.1.3.1

            I’m not so sure James. The lights won’t go out all over the world all at once … and while things may well be going to hell in the proverbial hand basket … there will still be plenty of resource for the powerful and desperate to grab a hold of to use for foreign military adventures. Especially if there is a nice juicy prize waiting for the taking.

            And first in, first served.

            I think we’re in for some very unpleasant surprises.

            • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.3.1.1

              You formulated it better than I could RL.

              Consider ancient empires like the Romans. Even as their massive empire collapsed, even as its territories and budgets shrunk, even as it’s legions were being tested and found wanting, its politicians continued to pour more and more resources into its military and finding ways to augment it including hiring mercernaries.

              All at massive cost to its society, all in the hope of holding empire together and finding a way out of a poor dead end.

              And yes, the final collapse of the Roman Empire was not fast, it took centuries for its last remnants to disintegrate.

              I think we’re in for some very unpleasant surprises.

              Yeah.

              And we better be well prepared.

              • Colonial Viper

                Try this CW

                http://www.postcarbon.org/blog-post/508186-the-peak-oil-crisis-the-german

                Pretty sure that the US army knows all about peak oil and what is in store for it. They won’t be waiting until things are so bad they can’t travel and plunder.

                I think that its one of the driving factors behind the rapid development of drone warfare.

                • Colonial Weka

                  Thanks CV. I deleted my comment because I decided it was too depressing to contemplate without offering any solutions.

                • Afewknowthetruth

                  It seems that the only thing that can save us is another ‘Carrington event’ – an eruption from the Sun of such great intensity it burns out all electronic devices and grid infrastructure.

                  We are about due for one but they are terribly unpredictable and the next one may come too late to save us from the industrial-military-financial complex and its perpetual war machine.

              • Matthew Hooton

                Exactly, history shows us that climate change causes wars. And if the more extreme forecasts of catastrophic climate change came true, especially if they happened quickly so mitigation measures (dykes etc) could not be undertaken in time, then of course there would be a global conflagration worse than World War Two, and New Zealand would certainly come under threat of military invasion (boat people are neither here nor there – any boat people who make it all the way to NZ have more ingenuity and talent than the average person brought in under the business migrant scheme so that I reckon they should be allowed to stay). So when politicians say they believe in sudden 10 metre sea level rises unless Kyoto gets expanded to the US, China and India (which it never will be), then they be asked what their defence policy is, and if they say they don’t believe in a massive military build up then it raises the question of whether they are really serious about what they say about climate change.

                • yes the politicians and their minions will use any and all issues to push their agenda of increased spending to their mates and pet projects. Climate change is just one issue used to argue that bigger defense budgets are needed and spy budgets too – it is an old story but still effective whilst the society, in which they are kings and queens, unravels in front of their eyes.

                • Ennui in Requiem

                  Some sense from Matthew, well done. It would be nice to see all the whole mainstream commentary take the realities of our age seriously.

                • RedLogix

                  The moral question this issue poses is something like:

                  You are in a lifeboat, there are 10 of you with room for 30 more. There are 5000 people in the water swimming towards you.

                  Now for sure you can take on the extra 30, and maybe another 100 could cling to the sides for a while. But 5000 will send you all into the sea.

                  Pausing to take on the 30 nearest swimmers will likely mean that many of the 5000 will also arrive.

                  Row like hell?

                  • vto

                    Grab onto anything that floats and pray methinks.

                  • your framing of the question is not correct at all red imo. You can live, you can die, you can live, you can die – what basis are you deciding – first in, like the look, let’s see your passport – it is all rubbish. What moral right do you have to decide – zero. It seems similar to the people that hide in a bunker and after everything is devastated they come out to rebuild – I’d rather die with the people than survive with the bunkerites.

                    so I suppose I’ll get chucked out of your liferaft – and I can live with that

                    • RedLogix

                      That’s a perfectly fair answer mm. Certainly you have the right to make that decision for yourself and I would respect that. If that meant jumping or being pushed overboard you’ve certainly made a moral choice that you will likely die with. How that squares up with you depends I guess on your view of the life of the human soul … and whether this life is all that matters.

                      But would you impose that decision on the nine others in the boat with you? In other words this question has a political as well as a personal dimension.

                    • I would fight against a policy that closed the boarders to those in need and I would fight hard. I will also fight against increased defense to ‘protect’ us and the way of life that so many love even as it disintegrates around us. I will additionally fight against what I consider bogus arguments by some (not you because I believe you are genuine in your concern) that exaggerate the issue to further entrench the privilege they enjoy.

                      we all die red the question is how we live

                    • vto

                      lol. It is ironic how you advocate for a special place just for Maori in New Zealand due to first in first served and the treaty yet here you walk away from that principle.

                      Malleable principles depending on your own personal circumstances. How surprising.

                    • RedLogix

                      I wouldn’t be too chirpy vto. I think mm was giving honest answers to a very tough question. Perhaps a question that doesn’t have an answer. Expecting perfect logical and moral consistency from humans is a tough call.

                      But mm did put up his hand to state what he believes and I respect that….

                    • vto

                      The two approaches do not match up RL. Your particular scenario here may have been a tough issue however the placing of various races within one boundary for an indefinite period is equally tough.

                      “Expecting perfect logical and moral consistency from humans is a tough call.” That’s right. It’s tough and few measure up.

                    • It’s okay red vot is a dickhead and doesn’t have many clues – I have tried to be honest to your honest comments and I know that we both know that. Kia kaha.

                    • RedLogix

                      I’d like to think the three of us would likely enjoy a few beers and good korero if we could….

                    • lol maybe on that bloody lifeboat as the two of you levered me over the edge… but seriously as far as I can work out we all have more commonalities than differences as is often the case. I am a bit naughty with vto – I shouldn’t wind him up so much – but it is fun and hard to resist especially when he gets on his high horse – my bad, must try harder to be nice :)

                    • vto

                      Aaaaarrrggghhh !!!!!!

                • Colonial Viper

                  I’m a believer that we need to be strengthening the Defence Forces to be a strong territorial and local pacific operator, not stripping men and women out and civilianising it. Nor equipping it to fight faraway wars on behalf of faraway imperial powers.

                • Rogue Trooper

                  most sensible for a change

            • marty mars 6.1.1.3.1.2

              I think the rich and famous are already doing this aren’t they – I mean coming here and buying a bolthole with the govt putting a nice bunch of flowers on the table to welcome them in.

  7. vto 7

    Had a couple of cracks at bigotry in its various guises over last longish period and the conclusion arrived at, especially in light of this from someone who clearly has clues about life in other spheres, is that racism and race relations (and most forms of bigotry) in this country are a cesspit. Bubbling and stinking. Nobody wants to go near it. Nobody can understand what is at the bottom of it. Everybody drops their own form of shit into it and says their neighbours shit is the shit that stinks. It is horrid, putrid, and pervades everything so much that people hold their nose whenever someone pokes their head up from the cesspool. It is a mess, unfathomable and should be filled in. It is a blinkin’ joke. Everything about the entire issue is ridiculous and everybody sees nothing, hears nothing and speaks nothing. It is a big fucking nothing and everything.

    • Oh shut up you sanctimonious wanker – ‘cracks at bigotry’ lol – what did you do tell yourself off in the mirror.

    • vto 7.2

      Evidence of the stinking pile of shit that is bigotry amongst all parts of the New Zealand population lies right here in front of the noses…. bigotry from Prosser in fact comprised three parts, yet it was only one that the dumb majority take offence to. The other two forms of bigotry, namely against the young and particularly the male, have been completely ignored.

      stinking pile of shit for brains this entire issue

  8. saarbo 8

    There seems to be a real lack of quality control when Parties choose their MP representatives. This guy is just an idiot, then there is Horan. What was going through Winston’s mind when he chose these guys???

    • Te Reo Putake 8.1

      I’d say the process goes like this:

      a) are you here for the NZF AGM (the croquet adjunct is next door)?
      b) do you have a large cheque on your person?
      c) Congratulations, you’re on the list.

  9. gobsmacked 9

    None of this is surprising.

    Richard Prosser’s views are not sotto voce rumours, they’ve been published in a magazine for years (a joke magazine, but still … it’s on the supermarket shelves).

    His views were known when he got on the list. Known when he got into Parliament. Well known now, and of course well known before the next election campaign.

    It wasn’t a surprise when ACT’s candidate for the Sensible Sentencing Trust turned out to be a time-bomb. It wasn’t a surprise when a party (United Future) based on a merger with religious nutters turned out to contain … religious nutters. And it’s not surprising that NZ First brought at least one bigot into Parliament.

    That’s why I don’t vote for them, and don’t want them in the next government. Labour and the Greens shouldn’t want them either.

  10. tsmithfield 10

    What is telling for me is that Winston hasn’t sacked the guy immediately. When it all boils down, Winston has shown himself to be not much better with his veiled attacks on Asians over recent years. I think any party who ties themselves to NZ First will be tainted by association.

    • Mike 10.1

      Is he allowed to sack someone for his personal views? (free speech and all that). I’m not saying he shouldn’t be sacked because in my opinion he should. But am wondering on the whole legal side of sacking someone. Although obviously he can be dropped as a party member immediately.

      I would suggest that neither National or Labour would care less about being tainted if it meant being in Government or not.

      • Colonial Viper 10.1.1

        But am wondering on the whole legal side of sacking someone.

        Don’t worry about it. Winston would be expelling the bastard from NZ First, that’s all. Prosser would still, lol, be an MP and fully employed.

    • Pascal's bookie 10.2

      Not much different from that guy who went on about immigrants spitting in the street. In fact, Peters claimed that that guy stole his immigration policy.

      I think you voted for that dude didn’t you. Don Brash his name was. Remember him? kept going on about ‘Mainstream’ this, ‘Iwi/Kiwi’ that.

  11. McFlock 11

    The same political discipline that created 20 years or more of doing fuck all about climate change will probably mean that the yanks aren’t much of a worry until they’re in no position to do anything. I think they see drones as a panacea for the issue they were getting into (where losing one bomber or ship might suddenly make an entire conflict uneconomic), but whether than comes to fruition is another issue. And drones can’t occupy ground, even land-based ones.

    China’s been playing the long game with global land buy-ups. But then that’s just acquisition, same as Roman conquest: it’s whether keeping that land is possible that becomes the question.

  12. millsy 12

    Ironically the likes of Prosser would find living in an Islamic theocracy to be very appealing.

    Women made to cover themselves up, no booze allowed, criminals get their hands chopped off, the death penalty, homosexuals strung up, no abortion or divorce, adulterers stonesd, Koran required reading in schools.A Family First/Sensible Sentencing Trust utopia.

    • Mike 12.1

      More likely a perfect match for the conservative party. (swapping the Koran for the bible of course)

  13. bad12 13

    Lolz you gotta love the bloke don’t you, Prosser that is, on a boring night you can see Him on Parliament TV,(the only time Winston unchains Him and takes off the gag), raving like a loon about the particular hair that has become ingrown and tickling what passes for His brain,

    This all is actually becoming quite fun, commenting on another web-site prior to the 2011 election i was going against the grain as usual and while all and sundry were saying that a vote for NZFirst was a wasted vote blah blah blah and the media’s opinion polls were casting NZFirst at 3.5% of the vote i was telling all and sundry, Wrong NZFirst would romp back into the Parliament with at least 6.2% of the vote,

    Here’s my pick for NZFirst for the November 2014 election, 4.2% maximum, 3.5% minimum, remember that wont you,

    Zetetic has hit the nail on the head as to why NZFirst was and is the gift that keeps on giving, the presence in this Parliament probably stopped the National Party from having the ability to Govern alone, instead the Slippery lead national Government had to take on coalition partners that are either anathema to the wider electorate and/or the electorate that they were imposed upon or by being part of such an abysmal shyster Government the coalition party has all but disintergrated,

    Winston has just about done his dash, most of the fires burned out now and what used to sound combative now just sounds repetitive, tired and boring, Brendon Who with all the charm of a snake-oil salesman and the smile that went on and off faster than a strobe light on a 1980′s disco dance floor who had aspirations,(snigger),of being the leader and who incidently is probably the only one of them other than Winston who might have been able to keep NZFirst in the Parliament after Winston, has been efficiently disposed of and accusations of raiding Mum’s stash will suffice for now as to why He got the bums rush,

    And now Richard Prosser,(take a bow Richard), has done the hard yards, solving the small conundrum of leveraging NZFirst apart from a slice of it’s vote, i almost want to send the retard flowers i am so impressed with His ability to turn a racist phrase and turn off a slice of His Party’s vote that no matter the amount of weasel words just wont be back,

    Sad to say, or glad to say, times up Winston, we resurrected you for a purpose which you have now fulfilled, an announced retirement with grace, or the undignified removal of NZFirst at the 2014 election is the 2 choices you are down to,

    NZFirst 4.2% at the 2014 election, that’s what i say…

    • McFlock 13.1

      Probably not far off, bad.

      I’m a bit surprised Winston didn’t drop Prosser as quickly as Horan, though. It’s one thing to even do a stand-down until things blow over, but trying to defend the guy is a bit much, even for the Asian Invasian dude.

      Probably thinks the bigot vote is more reliable than the financial scandal vote. Or maybe thinks that losing one MP can be regarded as bad luck, but losing two might be regarded as careless (to nick from Wilde).

      • bad12 13.1.1

        Oh Horan was a knee-jerk from Winston, there’s 2 threads there, ones a this is my Party ego trip, and the other is a genuine fright about the loss of the retirement belt’s vote,(lolz there is also more to that picture than meets the eye that is better left unsaid for now),

        The board of NZFirst were reportedly unhappy with Winston’s decision to send Brendan Who off to Siberia, the rumor being is ‘they’ thought that was their little power game to play,

        Lolz i would also like at this stage to thank Wishart for being a crap editor asleep at the wheel, not that i really believe He would have edited Prosser’s little diatribe out of the edition,(it will probably be the biggest seller of all time for that particular rag),

        So Winston isn’t sacking anyone without the ‘boards’ approval for the foreseeable future and while Brendan Who sit’s there alone He is mostly ignorable, 2 of them tho occupying Siberia would have Slippery slavering in anticipation,(He would probably gift Tauraunga to Horan to get 2 votes in the next Parliament)…

    • Rogue Trooper 13.2

      there is no “New Zealand” first! anymore; this self-reliant individualism nonsense is being our undoing, thread by thread.

  14. Brian 14

    You have been drinking.

    • bad12 14.1

      Ah such wit and stunning style of writing are seldom seen gracing the pages of the Standard…

  15. Afewknowthetruth 15

    Discussion about racism or the idiots we have in parliament serves an important purpose: it keeps people from thinking about or discussing things that really matter -like what people are going to eat when the industrial food system collapses (each other?) or at what point the Earth becomes largely uninhabitable due to positive feedbacks induced by out-of-control CO2 emissions (2040 or 2060?)

    I am sure there will be plenty ‘more bread and circuses’ over the coming few years -well mostly circuses and not much bread.

  16. Matthew Hooton 16

    It is very difficult to know who would win from the (welcome) disappearance of NZ First.
    Initially I thought it would be National – on the grounds that, if he had the balance of power, he would back a Labour/Green Government.
    Then I thought that Labour/Green would win because Peters would ultimately back National, so he could be the number two not number three party in a coalition.
    A new theory is that if he falls below the threshold, then there would may only be three parties in parliament, so all National has to do is win a handful of more votes than Labour/Green combined.
    I have written all three theories up and the NBR has kindly paid for all three.
    In the end, the main winner from Peters and his little band of racists, fascists and just plain morons leaving parliament would be New Zealand.
    PS. I think you have misunderstood my comments about the imminent Indonesian invasion. My point is that National and Labour don’t believe we face any risks, so they don’t spend much on the military, but that if you believe in imminent catastrophic climate change, flooding Indonesia and making much of South and Central Asia uninhabitable, then you would think we were at risk of full-scale military invasion over the next half century. But I don’t, so I don’t.

    • Te Reo Putake 16.1

      Speaking of a little band of racists, fascists and just plain morons leaving parliament, are you equally keen on seeing the end of ACT, Matthew?

      • Matthew Hooton 16.1.1

        That’s an academic question these days isn’t it?

        • Te Reo Putake 16.1.1.1

          You’re in a better position than most to know the answer to that question! Me, I think desperation will see National dance with the zombie at least one more time.

        • Pascal's bookie 16.1.1.2

          “That’s an academic question these days isn’t it?”

          So?

          What about the Conservative Party? how do you feel about that little band’o’bigots?

            • Pascal's bookie 16.1.1.2.1.1

              I think that’s the wrong piece, or at least, I can’t see how it adresses the question at all. perhaps you could clarify it here.

              The question is, do you think Colin Craig’s little band of bigotry would be a good thing to have in our parliament? A secondary Q would be, should the National party help them out, or ally with them?

              It’s no good saying he shouldn’t be a bigot, or offerring advice about how he might get into parliament.

              • Matthew Hooton

                I think the column entirely answers your question about what I feel about that band of bigots. Should they be in parliament? Well, it could be amusing. As long as they never had any actual power.

                • felixviper

                  For the rest of us who aren’t going to bother reading your article, can you just answer those questions here please?

                  The one I’m interested in is “should they be in parliament?” which isn’t asking “should they be in parliament if enough people vote for them”, or “would it be funny if they were in parliament”, it’s asking “do you think it would be good for the country to have them in parliament”.

                  • Matthew Hooton

                    If you don’t want to take two minutes reading my column, I don’t see why I should take three minutes to answer your question. You see, I’m not accountable to you in any way.

                    • quartz

                      Who are you accountable to, Matthew?

                    • McFlock

                      So you view us as both material for your columns and an audience for linkwhoring. That’s the trouble with tories – all too willing to slaughter the sheep for a quick buck, rather than gently shear it every year.

                    • felixviper

                      lolz Matthew.

                      I wouldn’t have thought it would take more than a few seconds to type an answer to “would it be good for nz to have a party I’ve already described as a bunch of bigots in parliament”.

                      But then I don’t have to check my invoice book before I answer simple questions about my opinions.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      Yep. Can’t see how could take longer to answer the Q, than to type:

                      If you don’t want to take two minutes reading my column, I don’t see why I should take three minutes to answer your question. You see, I’m not accountable to you in any way

                      unless the ‘answer’ was a waffley weasel of a not saying anything.

  17. Tiger Mountain 17

    Winston has always had dodgy (some incredibly dodgy) ring ins on board, and as said upthread his parliamentary return did the service of denying the Nats a total majority. It is up the left to generate enough support for next election despite him.

    • Ennui in Requiem 17.1

      The “Left” generating support hmmm. Reading this column and the round condemnation of the “racist” “moron” (plus all the other epithets offered) you might wonder how the “Left” might garner support?

      I suggest the clear winner of this little missive about “Wogistan” is Winston. It is worth votes, and his mans words actually strike a chord that the “Left” has failed to anticipate and address. Lets get real: whether we like it or not there is a large segment of the voting public who fear “terrorists”. There is a large sector of the voting public who fear “foreigners” and “illegal immigrants” (especially if they are “darkies”). And given the prevalent propaganda of fear foisted on us all by the media who can blame them.

      Recently I got very pissed off that I had to queue to go through “security” to get on a plane, and asked the blokwart on the scanner if he had ever caught a terrorist. This elicited a reply that I was out of order and that the threat was real (plus a threat to use his “powers” to detain me). What this unpleasant exchange reiterated to me was the very real acceptance by my fellow travelers in any threat. Not a head nodded support for my position, reaffirming general acceptance of a “threat”.

      Whilst Winnies man goes on about “Wogistan” I dont hear Shearer declaring that we have been duped into paranoia. I dont hear the “Left” putting the fears of a large sector of the electorate to bed. Nor addressing some of the very real fears raised (such as there being a generation of terrorists out there : albeit raised most likely by US policy).

      So we (quite rightly) shoot the messenger, take the high moral ground and ignore the recipients. These people then vote for Winnie. Haven’t we done well!

      • vto 17.1.1

        Well described. It is but one matter in this area which just goes whoooosh over the left’s heads. Some heavier thinking is needed by the left to, as you say, understand the “non-left” view on these things and then to articulate their own position taking ito account that non-left view.

        May even lead to some more votes

      • Rogue Trooper 17.1.2

        “we get the leaders we deserve” -Major Campbell Roberts ( “NZ has not learnt from history and do not have the right leadership to overcome problems”) IN todays Dom.

  18. unicus 18

    Prossers comments though somewhat crude underline a challenging dilemma for both Liberal and Conservative proggressives in how to identify and deal with the latent and blatant racisim present in all of us .His provocation also invites discussion of how we approach the inevitable conflicts of values generated a by the presence of a Muslim diaspora in our society.

    Liberal Progressives have a sharper dilemma generated by our instinct to defend Muslims because of an overiding obligation to the principle of equal consideration of interest within our society . We are at the same time challenged by elemets contained in Islamic digma repugnant to liberal values – a case in point is misogamy

    Both Liberal and Conservative progressives are challenged so by the fact that many within the Muslim diaspora here are at one with the aspirations of Islamic states in their resistance to Americam hegemony . The United States of America is our principal ally to which New Zealand owes a permanent debt of gratitude for its very existance .after the Americans prevented the Japanese invasion of our country . New Zealanders cannot ant will never resile from that debt

    Prossers outburst may represent simply the resentment many people feel at the inconvenience of heavy handed airport security after 9/11 or possibly a deeeper resentment sourced from the attacks by Muslims on vulnerable targets in countries allied with America . However retaliotory they may have been , they were acts of war perpetrated by Muslims .targeting Non -Muslims

    It may not be rational but it is reasonable to accept that many people identify Muslims as being responsible for the public affront to their privacy and freedom every time they catch an aircraft .

    These and other issues require sober analisis both by our Muslim diaspora and by those interested in its presence here . Hysteric denunciations of a clumsy messenger will not unravel or salve the sources of tension highlighted by New Zealand Firsts MP .

    • Ennui in Requiem 18.1

      Thanks, I say pretty much the same above: the issue for the “Left” is mind share. We have not dealt to this issue well, and as you say our liberal thinking is compromised by reality.

    • Rogue Trooper 18.2

      More Wars of Religion to come.; Get used to it. Paybacks are a bit*h

  19. Roger 19

    You must be thrilled that RNZ Morning Report went straight to……George Galloway MP for a comment on Prosser! The man who was thrown out of the Brit Labour Party after cuddling up to Saddum Hussen. I also wonder if you can produce a headline without f*ck in it? The left are no fans of any debate are they.

    • fatty 19.1

      is this a response to someone? what is your point?

    • Colonial Viper 19.2

      The man who was thrown out of the Brit Labour Party after cuddling up to Saddum Hussen.

      Roger, why don’t you watch Galloway’s testimony in front of the US Senate, which will show you to be completely ignorant and uninformed and basically, a twat.

      Galloway sticks it to the hearing hard and good many many times.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnflzhtDkJM

  20. karol 20

    The underlying problem isn’t “terrorists” or “floods of boat people”, but global inequalities and the grabbing of wealth and resources by the “elites”.

    Countries like NZ have international aid policies that foreground the benefits to their own country’s trade, rather than policies to lessen global inequalities. Consequently people in poorer countries will be looking for greener grass. And global inequalities provide part of the impetus for recruitment by “terrorists”.

    The solution is to provide more income and wealth equality between and among countries – but, given the grip on power by the “elites”, I don’t see that happening any time soon.

  21. Rich 21

    Without them, National would have a majority alone.

    What difference would that make? Between Banks, Dunne and the MaoriNats they’ve got a majority for anything they want to do. If anything, they wouldn’t have the excuse for toxic ACT policies like charter schools or for keeping Banks as a minister.

  22. Rogue Trooper 22

    Some good insights in this thread, imo

  23. Daveosaurus 23

    Time to stop pussy-footing around the point. Start calling Prosser’s attittude (and that of his fellow-travellers) what it is: anti-Semitism. There’s no difference between the hysteria generated against the Hebrews and their religion eighty years ago, and that generated against the Arabs and their religion today. Once put into that perspective, it may become clear to the easily-led of Prosser’s fellow-travellers just what agenda it is that they have been fooled into supporting.

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    The MANA List is now confirmed with all the candidates as below (the numbers are the respective Internet MANA rankings). Candidate, Electorate, Internet MANA List Position Hone Harawira, Te Tai Tokerau (1) Annette Sykes, Waiariki (3) John Minto, Mt Roskill (4) Te Hamua Nikora, Ikaroa-Rawhiti...
    Mana | 18-08
  • PREFU likely to confirm dropping exports
    National’s economic management will be put under the spotlight in tomorrow’s PREFU given clear signs the so-called rock star economy has fallen off the stage, with plummeting prices for raw commodity exports, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Under National,...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Record profits while Kiwis face a cold winter
    The record profits by two of New Zealand’s largest electricity companies will be a bitter pill for New Zealand households who are paying record amounts for their power, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “No doubt the Key government will...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time for John Key to answer yes or no questions
    John Key’s train-wreck interview on Morning Report shows he is no longer capable of a simple yes or no answer and has lost touch with what’s right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key has become so media...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Key must clarify who signed out SIS OIA
    Yet again John Key is proving incapable of answering a simple question on an extremely important issue – this time who signed off Cameron Slater’s fast-tracked SIS OIA request on Phil Goff, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “John Key’s claim...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time to invest in our tertiary education system
    A Labour Government will fully review the student support system – including allowances, loans, accommodation support and scholarships – with a view to increasing access and making the system fair, transparent and sustainable, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says....
    Labour | 17-08
  • Labour will facilitate regional Māori economic development agencies
    The next Labour Government will facilitate the creation of regional Māori economic development groups lead by iwi and hapū to work in partnership with business and public agencies as part of its Māori Development policy. “Labour is committed to working towards...
    Labour | 16-08
  • PRIME MINISTER’S DENIAL AT ODDS WITH NATIONAL PARTY STATEMENT
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has today released an email from the General Manager of the National Party that directly contradicts recent statements from the Prime Minister in relation to the 2011 breaches of Labour Party website databases. In his stand-up...
    Labour | 16-08
  • Labour committed to a healthier NZ for all
    A Labour Government will shift the focus of the health system from narrow targets and short term thinking to make public health and prevention a priority, Labour’s health spokesperson Annette King says. Releasing Labour’s full Health policy today she said...
    Labour | 15-08
  • Time Key took responsibility for Collins
    It is well past time for John Key to take some responsibility for the misuse of power and information by his Minister Judith Collins, and follow through on his last warning to her, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “The evidence released...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Dear John, time to answer a few questions… – Harawira
    “When Cameron Slater says about Kim Dotcom ‘I have lots on him…death by a thousand cuts…wait till you see what comes out in coming weeks on that fat c***t’, you have to ask whether this is the same Cameron Slater...
    Mana | 14-08
  • MANA CANDIDATE FOR IKAROA RAWHITI OPENS UP ABOUT SUICIDE
    “This week suicide has claimed yet more lives in whanau and communities in Ikaroa Rawhiti, and my heart goes out to those who are dealing with such a tragic loss”, says MANA candidate for Te Ikaroa Rawhiti, Te Hamua Nikora....
    Mana | 14-08
  • Offshore betting in Labour’s sights
    A Labour Government will clamp down on offshore gambling websites that deprive the local racing industry of funds, Labour’s Racing spokesperson Ross Robertson says. Releasing Labour’s racing policy today, he said betting on offshore websites is a major threat to...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Key has serious questions to answer on Dirty Politics
    John Key must answer the serious questions raised in Nicky Hager’s new book which reveal examples of dirty politics that New Zealanders will be deeply concerned about, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Many people will be disturbed by the evidence...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Creating an inclusive society for disabled people
    A Labour Government will provide free annual health checks for people with an intellectual disability, Labour’s Disability Issues spokesperson Ruth Dyson said today in announcing Labour’s Disability Issues policy. “We will also employ another 100 additional special education teachers and...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Media Advisory – MANA name change
    This is to advise all media that on the 24th of July the ‘Mana’ party name was officially changed to ‘MANA Movement’ under the Electoral Act 1993.  The inclusion of the word ‘Movement’ in our name shouldn’t come as a surprise...
    Mana | 13-08
  • New Zealand must help in the growing Iraq crisis
    The humanitarian crisis in Iraq looks certain to get worse before it gets better,” said David Shearer Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson. “New Zealand should urgently pledge increased humanitarian assistance to United Nations agencies and NGOs present on the ground....
    Labour | 13-08
  • Allegations of migrant worker rort should be investigated
    Labour is calling for an investigation into the alleged exploitation of workers at Hutt Railway workshops, hired to repair asbestos-riddled DL locomotives. Hutt South Labour MP Trevor Mallard has written to the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment asking that...
    Labour | 13-08
  • Medical and dentistry students get reprieve under Labour
    A Labour Government will restore the right of medical and dentistry students to get student loans after seven years of study because it is the right thing to do, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says. “Hard on the heels...
    Labour | 13-08
  • National must stop meddling with ACC before the election
    The redesign currently occurring at the Accident Claims Corporation (ACC) for sensitive claims needs to be put on hold immediately, said the Green Party today.The Green Party is concerned about work currently underway at ACC involving the sensitive claims service...
    Greens | 13-08
  • Markets slow but first home buyers still hurting
    First home buyers are hurting more than ever as the supply of affordable houses in the market dries up, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “The Reserve Bank will be happy LVR minimum deposits and rising interest rates have dampened...
    Labour | 13-08
  • Green Party celebrates MOU win on contaminated sites
    The Green Party is celebrating the announcement of a national register of contaminated sites today, and $2.5 million to start cleaning two sites up. The Green Party and the National Party agreed to include toxic site management work in their...
    Greens | 13-08
  • Emergency staff at breaking point
    The Southern DHB is so cash-strapped it is failing to fill nursing rosters, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson David Clark says.  “Every day emergency department nurses arrive at work knowing they are likely to be carrying more than their recommended workload. ...
    Labour | 12-08
  • ACC minister fails in mission to change culture
    The latest damning report by the Auditor General shows that the ACC Minister has failed to fulfil her mission to fix the sick culture at ACC and real change will not come till a new Government is elected, the Green...
    Greens | 12-08
  • Labour’s regional development fund to support Palmerston North
    Labour will consider a proposal to develop an inland port at Palmerston North, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The Palmerston North community has developed plans for an inland port which will bring jobs and economic growth to a region which...
    Labour | 12-08
  • Green Party announces priorities for Christchurch
    The Green Party has today announced its plan for a fairer, smarter and more democratic Canterbury rebuild, with a focus on smart transport solutions, restoring local democracy, and keeping Christchurch's assets.The plan sits across all of the Green Party's priorities...
    Greens | 11-08
  • Rock-star economy unplugged by China log jam
    The collapse of log prices due to oversupply in China threatens to wash the gloss off what remains of National's so-called rock-star economy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “Already this year the price of milk solids has plunged by more...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Young job seekers dealt a poor hand
    National's "keep 'em poor" card for young people on a benefit is a sorry substitute for job training, Labour’s Social Development spokesperson Sue Moroney says.  The Government today announced it would extend its payment card scheme to all teen parents...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Labour – achieving change for Kiwi women
    Working towards being a world leader in eliminating violence against women and children will be a priority for a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Women’s Affairs policy today spokesperson Carol Beaumont said while Labour had a proud track record of achieving...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Accessible healthcare also affordable
      It is obvious from Tony Ryall’s hasty attack of Labour’s plans to extend free GP visits to older people that he hasn’t bothered to actually read the policy, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says. "Mr Ryall’s response to Labour’s...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Full details of oil execs’ junket revealed
    Full details of a $237,000 taxpayer-funded oil executives' junket in 2011 have emerged.National paid the nearly quarter of a million dollars to wine and dine 11 oil executives in New Zealand during the World Cup.The trip included yachting, wine tasting,...
    Greens | 10-08
  • Nats sold 500 rugby fields of land a day offshore
    Under National over one million hectares of land has been approved for overseas sale – 16 times the size of Lake Taupō or the equivalent of five hundred rugby fields a day, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “According to...
    Labour | 10-08
  • Joyce’s dodgy sums fool no-one
    Steven Joyce's attempt to attack Labour's positive plan for affordable healthcare will fool no-one. "We knew that National would try to say that we can't afford free GP visits and prescriptions for the New Zealanders who need it. But, as...
    Labour | 10-08
  • Campaign Launch – Ready to Win
    Today I launched Labour's election campaign at the Viaduct Events Centre, Auckland. Here is the speech I gave....
    Labour | 10-08
  • Labour extends free GP visits, free prescriptions
    Nearly 40 per cent of Kiwis – or 1.7 million people – will be eligible for free doctors’ visits and free prescriptions under a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Last year more than half a million New Zealanders...
    Labour | 10-08
  • Labour promises a fairer ACC for all Kiwis
    Accident compensation for loss of potential earnings will rise under a Labour Government, while people not earning at the time of their accident will also be eligible for compensation, Labour’s ACC spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. Releasing Labour’s ACC policy today...
    Labour | 08-08
  • NZ Govt must push for fair play in Fiji elections
    The New Zealand Government needs to do more to push for human rights and media freedom in Fiji as it stages its first election since the 2006 coup, the Green Party said today.Amnesty International has released a report which documents...
    Greens | 07-08
  • Government’s Own Guidelines Show John Key Would Have Been Informed Of SIS...
    Analysis by Selwyn Manning. INFORMATION THAT I HAVE ACQUIRED, sourced from the State Services Commission, states in black and white the tight guideline requirements that must be followed whenever the SIS informs a Prime Minister of any pending release of...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Simply Not Credible: Dr Tucker’s “clarifications” are only making thi...
    THAT DR WARREN TUCKER, Director of the Security Intelligence Service in 2011, agreed to the release of politically sensitive material – thereby intervening in an on-going contretemps between the leaders of the National and Labour parties – without receiving the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: Evidence of Collusion between the NZ Herald and Imm...
    . 1. Prologue . The Donghua Liu Affair hit  the headlines on 18 June, with allegations that David Cunliffe wrote a letter in 2003,  on  behalf of  business migrant, Donghua Liu. Four days later, on Sunday 22 June, the Herald...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Dear Canon NZ – Malevolence should induce revulsion, it shouldn’t be ce...
    Giovanni Tiso’s analysis on Slater is possibly the best in NZ… It’s been a good week for some of us. A week of feeling vindicated, offeeling galvanised. Where it goes from here will depend on several factors, some of which are largely...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • 5AA Australia: After Dirty Politics Can National Provide Stable Government?
    AS WE ALL KNOW New Zealanders and Australians do not like political parties that are unstable, or can no longer assure us that they are able to provide stable government. And the big question for Kiwis as we prepare to...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • SIS letter means it’s over for Key
    It’s over. I may not agree with all of Phil Goff’s positions, but you can’t question his integrity the way Slater did in Dirty Politics and not be deeply concerned that our Secret Intelligence Agency is being used for political...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • who to vote for in Epsom
    who to vote for in Epsom...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • The Rise and Fall of John Key – who will be the next leader of National P...
    . . It was all set to go: Teamkey would be the cult of personality that would do Stalin, Mao, Reagan, Thatcher, or any of the Nth Korean Kim Dynasty, proud.  National and it’s “Teamkey” propaganda strategy   would cash-in Big Time...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Who said Kiwis couldn’t get a fire in their bellies over an arcane intern...
    An amazing team of activists has taken the campaign on the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) to local governments throughout the country. Their latest triumph came last Monday when the Dunedin City Council endorsed a resolution expressing concern about the TPPA...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • National’s Dangerous Education Agenda Exposed
    Putting aside the dirty politics coming out of the Beehive and the right-wing blogisphere, there are some very strong signals that another term of a National Government would do even more serious damage to the public education system. The Education...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • We can have clean politics and get our democracy back.
    Something is rotten in our politics and it stinks. Dirty politics has sadly become one of the defining features of this election campaign. In the light of recent revelations about the extent of nasty and disingenuous political strategies, it would...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Book burning copies of Hager’s book? The next generation of National Part...
    It seems we are getting the next generation of National Party Dirty Politics now. There are claims the Young Nats in Hamilton are buying up copies of Dirty Politics and burning them. One witness was contacted by the Waikato Times...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • National Party Poetry Day Haiku
    Key’s inbox and Cam’s poison most foul, there he blows hoist by own harpoon...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Why Cunliffe will be the next PM
    David Cunliffe will be the next Prime Minister of NZ. Labour’s inclusive and positive TV adverts… …are in stark contrast to National’s team of white people powering away from the rabble of the ‘others’… …the messaging is vital and crucial...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • From smiling assassin to grumpy butcher – on giving Judith Collins a last...
    After #dirtypolitics Key isn’t the smiling assassin, he is the grumpy butcher. When he said Judith had  a ‘last chance’ he meant 1 second after voting closes on 20th September. Key would love nothing more than to cut Collins loose and end...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • If the National Party rowing advert was real….
    If the National Party rowing advert was real there would be more blood in the water. If the National Party rowing advert was real it would be Cameron Slater calling the strokes. If the national Party rowing advert was real,...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Cameron Slater: Zionist and political pundit
    It is hard to know where to start with right-wing blogger Cameron Slater (Whale Oil), especially after the release of Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics. This confirmed everything many of us thought Slater to be: a snivelling pundit who serves...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Bryce Edwards stood down from Herald for election season??? Are the editors...
    I only found this out via twitter last night and I am still in shock. Bryce Edwards, easily the best critical thinker and news analyst the NZ Herald has has been stood down by the NZ Herald ‘for the election...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • So who’s a “conspiracy theorist” now?!
    . . As the media storm over Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics“,  and allegations over smear campaigns continue to swirl,  National’s spin doctors have given Key, Collins, and other National Party ministers a string of  phrases to use in all...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Momentum shift
    When you are deeply immersed in a local campaign sometimes it can be difficult to see the helicopter view.   I don’t know how accurate the political polls are and have always known that things can change quickly in politics...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Dear Toby Manhire. Bad call on backing Farrar
    Oh dear. I say this as someone who regards Toby Manhire as one of the smartest journalists/commentators/columnists this country has, and I think Toby has made a terribly dumb call here. Let’s see if Toby is still singing Farrar’s praises...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Radio NZ apologise to me for getting it wrong
    Radio NZ have contacted me, reviewed the claim by their host that I had an advance copy of Nicky Hager’s book and they have concluded they got it wrong, they have called me and apologised and will make a statement...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Reclaim UoA – Students’ Message to Steven Joyce
    Tertiary Education – we’ve been sold a lemon  A group of 30 students attended an event on Tuesday evening about ‘the future of tertiary education’ at which the Minister of Tertiary Education Steven Joyce was slated to speak. As Joyce...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Can someone in the media please ask the PM of NZ to categorically deny any ...
    Now we see the MO of Slater & Co, the setting up, the digging for dirt, the use of staff to dig that dirt, can the Prime Minister of NZ categorically deny any National Party staff worked with Cam Slater...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Panic setting in for National as they realise what’s about to happen
    And the terror starts to set in. I’ve never seen blind panic like this before  and it’s spreading as the enormity of what’s about to happen starts to sink in. Hager’s book is a mere entree, Nicky’s personal ethics wouldn’t...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics: what the book ultimately reveals is abuse of powe...
    Guide to the many faces of John Key Nicky’s book is now doing what I suspected it would do, create a shockwave of revulsion. Andrew Geddis over at Pundit Blog sums up this attitude best, and it’s reverberations build with every...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Fancy taking children seriously
    Let’s see why all political parties should pay close attention to the Green Party’s policy for children. First, it is a comprehensive attempt to put children, not ideology, at the heart of family policy. Wow, children at the heart of...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Amnesty International: Dear Azerbaijan, Stop Torture, Love Kiwi Kids
    This is a world where many adults often underestimate Generation Y. Being only a few years out of being a teenager myself, I feel I can make this statement with certainty. However, I have been the Youth Intern at Amnesty...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • GCSB meetings today in Christchurch 1pm at Uni 7pm at Cathedral
    The 2014 GCSB meetings to discuss the mass surveillance state legislation passed by this Government will be debated in Christchurch today at two different meetings. 1pm at Canterbury University bottom floor James Height Building: Chair: Bomber Bradbury Ruth Dyson – Labour Party...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Things that 7 Sharp should probably be talking about
    Things that 7 Sharp should probably be talking about...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Guide to when Key is lying
    Guide to when Key is lying...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – The State of the Student Nation …or is just Al...
    Students politics are dead and our student media is in terminal decline. The most disappointing thing about university is the politics, or should I say lack of? I was raised with the idea that students held the power.They were the...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Love Lifts Us Up: Thoughts from the Green Party’s campaign launch.
    Author Eleanor Catton wants people to give their party vote to the Greens.Photo by Peter Meecham NO ONE WAS QUITE SURE how he did it. Somehow Bob Harvey had persuaded the owners of the rights to Joe Cocker’s Up Where...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Test Stream
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    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • LIVE STREAM: You, Me and the GCSB ChCh Public Meetings
    LIVE STREAM EVENT here at 1pm & 7pm: The 2014 GCSB meetings to discuss the mass surveillance state legislation passed by this Government will be debated in Christchurch today at two different meetings. PLEASE NOTE: TDB recommends Chrome and Firefox...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today,
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • How @whaledump might destroy the popular vote for National
    Dirty Politics is now creating a meltdown and National are in danger of a total vote collapse. The real threat to for National was if Nicky had all the emails released via the anonymous hacker who took them. That danger is now a...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Open letter to Radio NZ – you need to make a retraction now
    I have just sent this off to Radio NZ right now Dear Radio NZ Firstly, what a great interview by Guyon Espiner this morning with the Prime Minister. Great to see such hard hitting journalism. Unfortunately I am not contacting...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Radio NZ are lying about me
    I am getting this all second hand at the moment as I don’t bother listening to Radio NZ (except for that wonderful Wallace Chapman in the weekends) but there is a claim that Suzie Ferguson just insinuated on Radio NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Farrar’s fake claim of being invaded + Slater’s claims of death threats...
    The counter spin to avoid focus on the series allegations made in Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics continues. David Farrar’s ridiculous hysterics that he was invaded and his privacy has been blah blah blah has all been reduced from computer hacking to...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • A shout out to the unsung heroes – our Public Service staff
    Government departments, particularly in the social welfare, education and health areas get a lot of shtick. And it’s not unjustified. We have problems in the way that our government departments treat those in need. And I do not intend to...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Key’s ducking for cover – utterly unbelievable!!!
    .   . I don’t often re-print media stories verbatim – but this piece by Andrea Vance, for Fairfax Media,  deserves wider circulation. Please note the highlighted statements by Dear Leader as he ducks, weaves, obfuscates, and deflects any and...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Who is the source of Hager’s emails?
    Who is the source of Hager’s emails? Kim Dotcom has categorically denied he has anything to do with this and Nicky Hager has categorically denied that Kim was the source of the emails. Whatever you think about Kim (and he...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Dirty Politics – Audio+Text Why It Is Essential Raw Data Be Released Imme...
    MIL OSI – Source: RadioLive – Sunday Panel Analysis Headline: Dirty Politics – Audio Analysis by Selwyn Manning + Rodney Hide + Mark Sainsbury MIL Video: Selwyn Manning, Rodney Hide, and Mark Sainsbury discuss and debate the explosive details revealed...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • TV One and TV3 Political Polls – not such a landslide now
    Before the impact of Dirty Politics has been felt, the National Party high point in the Polls had been reached and their inevitable  drop begins. Despite the mainstream media telling NZers for almost 3 years that John Key would win...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – You will not believe Key’s defence of hackin...
    He actually used a sporting analogy. Can you believe it? John Key, asked on the fact that his staff had entered into a Labour Party computer and downloaded their database, Key replied, “It’s a bit like the Wallabies positing up their...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • A brief word on 100 Top political Tweeters
    The NZ Herald has put together a very useful list of top 100 political twtter accounts, what is most interesting from the lists is that the right wing all work hand in glove with each other where as the Left...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Are Whaleoil’s traffic stats a bloated illusion?
    Dim Post has done a critical analysis of just how real Cameron Slater’s traffic stats are. TDB has only been around for a year with a fragment of the digital footprint of the older blogs, yet we have managed to become...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Is Jordan Williams deceptive enough to blackma...
    There are so many issues raised by Nicky Hager’s book, that any one of them would be worthy of total focus on. Let’s chat about the claim in the book that Jordan Williams bragged to Slater and Lusk that he had...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Why ‘see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evi...
    This sign shows how National’s see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil denial isn’t working. National’s response to the book is that there is NOTHING in there that deserves anything more than the most briefest of eye motions. Key won’t...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Commissioner of Police v Kim Dotcom And Ors
    An order is made extending the duration of the registration of the restraining orders issued by the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia on 10 and 25 January 2012 and registered in New Zealand on 18...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Labour Announcement on Future of Hillside Workshops Welcome
    Labour leader David Cunliffe’s announcement in Dunedin today that a government led by his party would re-open Hillside Railway workshops was welcomed by the Rail and Maritime Transport Union (RMTU). ‘Since the workshops were shut down in late...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Primary teachers and principals vote to put kids first
    Teachers and principals have voted overwhelmingly against the Government’s controversial “Investing in Educational Success” policy, including proposed highly-paid principal and teacher roles....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Prime Time with Sean Plunkett: Educating for Success
    In all the turmoil stirred up by the "Dirty Politics" revelations, the real issues that the campaign should be about have been put to one side....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Dirty Politics – Number One Bestseller and Back in Stores
    An exposé of the hidden side of New Zealand politics, Nicky Hager's book, Dirty Politics , has been in hot demand since its release last Wednesday....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Epsom: profiling NZ’s most controversial electorate
    Welcome to the wealthy inner Auckland electorate of Epsom: home of coat-tailing, the Tea Tapes, a convicted outgoing MP... and heavy newspaper and magazine readership....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Families Free From Violence campaign and website
    We are pleased to announce the launch of our Families Free From Violence campaign and our new Families Free From Violence website. This website has been created to encourage people to take responsibility for ending family violence by seeking help...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • PSA And DHBs Reach Settlement on Five Collective Agreements
    The 20 District Health Boards are pleased to reach settlement via mediation on five Multi Employer Collective Agreements (MECAs) with the Public Service Association for 12,000 mental and public health nurses, allied, public health and technical staff,...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Refusal to complete census results in 46 convictions
    Failing to fill out a census form has resulted in the convictions of 46 people, Statistics New Zealand said today....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Council Amalgamations Still Bad Deal
    Northland, Bay of Plenty, and Wellington ratepayers should not be seduced into accepting the amalgamation of their Councils by a recent amendment to legislation allowing for local boards not community boards, Chris Leitch, Democrats for Social Credit...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • DHB industrial action withdrawn
    The Public Service Association (PSA) has withdrawn notices of industrial action covering 12,000 health workers at District Health Boards (DHBs) across New Zealand, after progress was made in mediation....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Aged Care Pledge Needs Better Target, Says Care Agency
    Labour’s pledge to set up an aged care working group to address industry concerns is good to see, but appears to skirt the obvious issue of a looming lack of beds and carers for our rapidly growing elderly population, says...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Social inequality still rife in New Zealand
    Social inequality has worsened over the past decade in New Zealand, a new study from Victoria University of Wellington shows....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Working towards a living wage and more Māori in paid work
    The Māori Party will build on the gains it has already achieved in Government and accelerate job opportunities particularly for young Māori....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Deepwater Group Supports Changes to Catch Limits
    The Deepwater Group says the increase in the Total Allowable Commercial Catch for hoki shows the benefits of a long term commitment to build biomass in this major New Zealand fishery....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • ACT announces Ohariu candidate Sean Fitzpatrick
    “Our Ohariu candidate will be Sean Fitzpatrick. Sean has strong ties to the region and I’m glad to hear he will be doing his best to grow ACT’s party vote in the area,” says Dr Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • ACT announces Tauranga candidate Stuart Pederson
    “Our Tauranga candidate will be Stuart Pedersen. Stuart has strong ties to Tauranga and I’m glad he has agreed to do his best to grow ACT’s party vote in the electorate,” says Dr Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Green Party scores massive own goal
    Green Party scores massive own goal as their own policy auditor criticises their fiscal plan...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Green Party’s own Auditor of their Budget finds it dodgy
    “The Alternative Budget released by the Green's does not even stack up in the eyes of their chosen auditor – Infometrics” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • New shark finning laws fall short for threatened species
    Environmental groups are welcoming some aspects of a raft of law changes announced today in relation to shark finning, but say that overall the chance for New Zealand to catch up with international efforts in shark conservation is being missed....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Promoting Labour’s Positive Policies
    General Secretary of the New Zealand Labour Party, Tim Barnett, today launched Labour’s television advertisements for the 2014 election. The advertisements help tell Labour’s positive story for a better New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Drug Court: Rare Insight into New Alternative Justice Model
    Māori Television’s latest New Zealand documentary presents a fascinating look inside a new alternative justice model – through the stories of convicted criminals....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Political parties pledge to increase overseas aid
    A survey of political parties looking at how much New Zealand should spend on Official Development Assistance (ODA) shows the overwhelming majority of parties are committed to raising the bar according to the Council for International Development (CID)....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Top Kiwis backing Tip the Scales campaign
    Sir Graham Henry, former All Black Kees Meeuws, singer-song writer Jamie McDell and fishing guru Matt Watson have pledged their support to Tip the Scales, a pre-election campaign generating public support for rebuilding New Zealand’s depleted inshore...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Maritime Union continues to press over dirty politics
    Maritime Union National President Garry Parsloe says Ports of Auckland management is trying to get off the hook from its involvement with extreme right wing bloggers during the Ports of Auckland dispute....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • No end in sight to overwhelming human cost of conflict
    Two ceasefires have brought some respite to civilians in Gaza and southern Israel, amid hope that a durable cessation of hostilities might occur. In Gaza, these breaks in the fighting have barely given people enough time to seek medical care,...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Young Kiwi speakers to represent NZ at Gallipoli 2015
    The RSA is delighted at the announcement made by Veterans' Affairs Minister Michael Woodhouse today, that all eight regional finalists of the 2015 ANZ RSA Cyril Bassett VC Speech Competition will be included in a group of 25 Youth Ambassadors...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • “Bromance” Marriage Stunt Insulting Says LegaliseLove
    A promotional competition asking two best mates to get married in order to win an all-expenses-paid trip to the 2015 Rugby World Cup is insulting, marriage equality campaign LegaliseLove Aotearoa claims....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Cannabis Party first to register for 2014 General Election
    The Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party became the first party to register for the 2014 General Election today, when it meet with the Electoral Commission in Wellington at Midday....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • PGA: Addresses NZ’s ratification of Arms Trade Treaty
    President of Parliamentarians for Global Action and New Zealand MP Ross Robertson today addressed a celebration to mark New Zealand’s imminent ratification of the Arms Trade Treaty (ATT), which is expected within the next few weeks....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Roy Morgan Poll August 20
    National (48%) holds its lead over Labour/ Greens (39%) as ‘Dirty Politics’ revelations provide a new challenge for PM John Key’s leadership. NZ First surge to 6.5% - highest support since September 2013....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • IGIS inquiry into release of NZSIS information
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security (IGIS), Cheryl Gwyn, announced today that she would be instituting an inquiry concerning allegations that the New Zealand Security Intelligence Service (NZSIS) might have released official information...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Glen Scanlon to Head Digital Media at Radio New Zealand
    Radio New Zealand has announced the appointment of Glen Scanlon to the recently created position of head of digital media....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Israel’s Gaza ceasefire violations go unreported
    It seems that it is only ceasefire violations that emanate from the Palestinian side that ever get publicised....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Drug courier sentenced for importing heroin
    South African drug courier, Laura Elizabeth Cilliers, was sentenced today in the Christchurch District Court to 7 years and 10 months in prison for importing approximately 1.2 kilograms of heroin....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Residential Property Speculators Days Numbered
    Rent heat cools as homes are replaced ... Liz McDonald ... The Press http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/your-property/10400851/Rent-heat-cools-as-homes-are-replaced Comment on thread (in moderation) … Christchurch is a “severely unaffordable” City as the Annual Demographia Survey ( www.demographia.com ) illustrates … thanks...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Academic’s study shows need for a Ministry of Public Input
    A book by Associate Professor Jennifer Lees-Marshment recommends the creation of a Ministry of Public Input to collect, process and communicate the publics’ ideas to government. The University of Auckland’s political marketing expert says the...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Government inaction killing innocent motorists
    Innocent people are dying due to long delays in installing centre lane barriers on high risk roads, says an outspoken road safety campaigner....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Property revaluations for council rates must be reformed
    Opportunity to bring controls on rating value changes and more equitable level of annual rates increase...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Ron Mark Sets the Example
    The Taxpayers’ Union is welcoming the pledge by Mayor of Carterton and NZ First candidate Ron Mark who has announced he would relinquish his roles as Mayor and member of two District Health Boards if successfully elected to Parliament. Taxpayers’...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Ban 1080 Candidates announced for 2014 General Election
    MEDIA RELEASE: Angry rural communities want issue of 1080 aerial drops taken to the polls, says party co-leader Ban 1080 Candidates announced for 2014 General Election...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Governor General Gives Direction to Conduct Election
    The Governor General, Lt Gen The Rt Hon Sir Jerry Mateparae, has given the green light for this year’s General Election....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • New Zealand Animal Groups Unite to Help
    WELLINGTON (19 Aug 2014) – The Be Cruelty-Free campaign to ban animal testing of cosmetics in New Zealand just got bigger and stronger, as two leading animal protection groups come on board. Joining forces with Humane Society International which has...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Students Interrupt Steven Joyce at University Event
    A group of 30 students this evening interrupted an event about ‘the future of tertiary education’ at which Tertiary Education Minister Steven Joyce was slated to speak. As Joyce began to speak, students interrupted with a speech of their own....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Caritas among first responders offering relief in Iraq
    As the plight of Iraqis fleeing persecution reaches tragic levels, Caritas Aotearoa New Zealand has pledged an initial $10,000 to support the work of Caritas in Iraq to provide humanitarian aid to thousands of families affected by the war and...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • iPredict 2014 Election Update #31: Nats take hit
    Election race narrows significantly · National party vote now below Labour/Greens · National’s probability of leading next government dips to 72% · Joyce expected to take over as National leader before end of 2015, as Collins’ prospects fall...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Call for applications – Fulbright scholar awards
    Fulbright New Zealand calls for applications to a range of scholar awards for New Zealand academics, artists and professionals to undertake academic and cultural exchanges to the United States of America. A Fulbright exchange provides life-changing opportunities...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • CWS launches appeal for Iraqis on World Humanitarian Day
    Christian World Service is appealing for help for tens of thousands of Iraqis caught up in one of the world’s horrifying conflicts....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Promoting the Voice of the Rangatahi
    Young Māori voters are seen by the Māori Party to have a vital part to play in saving the Māori seats in Parliament says the Māori Party’s youngest candidate, Reverend Te Hira Paenga. “What we’re hearing on the ground is...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Nelson Election Candidates’ Community Forum
    Nelson’s community and volunteer sector has some serious questions to put to the local candidates in the run up to next month’s general election....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
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