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Just get the f*ck out

Written By: - Date published: 7:50 pm, February 12th, 2013 - 126 comments
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Prosser, just f*cken resign. There’s no place for the likes of you. You’ve been elected purely to make up numbers for Peters. And you couldn’t even do that without being a disgusting bigot. You’re not the only rightwinger playing up race fears. Hooton claims Indonesia will invade due to climate change. Key tells scary stories of made-up boat people. But you’re the worst. Just go.

PS. I’m still not regretting that NZF is back in Parliament. Without them, National would have a majority alone. Avoiding that’s worth having to deal with a racist and Horan. Plus we get Tracey Martin and she’s gold. Actually it’s going quite well. If NZF collapses this term, having done its job in 2011, it means no Winnie kingmaker in 2014, which improves the odds for a Labour-Green government.

126 comments on “Just get the f*ck out”

  1. Andre 1

    He is a bigot first .Second what has this man done to expect to be part of ruling of New Zealand ????

    • Liberty 1.1

      looks like Labour has a little problem with it future coalition partner. This latest deplorable attack on a minority is no different than Winston anti Chinese rants.
      That only leaves the Green Taliban. That means giving up the Finance minister position.
      Labour might as will stay at its rightful station. As the opposition.

  2. Yep and memo to Labour. We cannot go into coalition with these bastards. Between their refusal to accept that climate change is occurring and their innate racism they are a bunch of losers.

    • higherstandard 2.1

      As has been noted previously, your good self along with the majority of the labour caucus would fellate Winston within an inch of his life if he was the difference between the treasury benches and three more years in opposition

      • mickysavage 2.1.1

        Nope HS if the treasury benches depended on Prosser’s support I would say no way. But I am sure Key would not be so principled this time …

        • Akldnut 2.1.1.1

          HS Prosser’s a tosser – you would have more of a chance than him and you’ve got sweet F A

    • Mike 2.2

      I’m not a NZF supporter and certainly think dickhead Prosser should be fired as an MP.

      But since when have they (NZF members) refused to accept that climate change is happening? Or do you mean they don’t accept that anthropomorphic CO2 emissions are causing out of control global warming? I would say pretty much everyone accepts that climate change is occurring, just as it has done for the last 4.5 billion years.

      You should probably not generalize either. When you say “their” innate racism, you’re implying that they are all racist? Hey, you could be correct, but “they” don’t all seem that extreme to me; and I certainly haven’t seen any racist NZF policy documents.

      They’re not all bastards either.

    • Rogue Trooper 2.3

      this man is unbelievable a nd a great embarassment, along with Peters (“the twin evils of diversity and multi-culturalism” ) Is he drunk all the freakin time? And Prosser-”this is my country”??? and there is no “man-made climate warming”???. UNFREAKIN-BELIEVABLE. wotta lost soul that Wishart is!

  3. fatty 3

    NZ First’s racism does attract some people…it might ensure kiwi_prometheus’ vote goes to them

    • Sosoo 3.1

      Some people? I know more people who have some variant of these Neanderthal views than people who don’t.

  4. Hayden 4

    The NZ First list did have a kind of “eh, who cares, no-one’s going to get in other than Winston” look about it.

  5. Te Reo Putake 5

    Great post, Zet! Amazing that Winston would dump a bloke currently only accused of wrongdoing while keeping an actual knuckledragging racist on board. Even Wishart seemed to disown him (saying on that 7 whatsit show that if he’d been awake when he skim-read the piece, he’d have edited it for human consumption or somesuch).

    edit: video here: http://tvnz.co.nz/seven-sharp/investigate-editor-reacts-nz-first-mp-s-anti-muslim-column-video-5340077

    • McFlock 5.1

      Investigate’s editor doesn’t even investigate what he’s publishing? Why am I not surprised?

    • Don't worry be happy 5.2

      He’s a bigot not a racist as ‘being a Muslim” is like “being a Catholic”…i.e. belonging to a certain (world wide, hence multi racial) religion. Although he’s clearly stupid enough to think that someone can ‘look like a Muslim’ and therefore should be kept off planes (between certain ages and if male I think the craziness goes).

      Though you know, because it’s really late and I up with a sick child and not thinking that straight…there may well be a certain type that should actually be kept off planes…dress in suits, usually short, male, self important plonkers with loud braying voices, computers and Iphones..often hauling along a bit of eye candy about the same age as their rug…you know the ones that crashed the World’s economy 4 years ago and counting…the ones with their expensive Italian leather handmade shoes on the throats of the poor…Keep the Bankers off the planes I say!

      Child asleep. Nite nite Standanistas

      • toad 5.2.1

        The “Wogistan” reference would indicate his bigotry is both anti-Muslim and racist. “Wog” is a term of racial vilification, probably second in offensiveness only to “nigger”.

  6. TheContrarian 6

    Does anyone have a link to Hooten’s comments about Indonesia out of interest?

      • TheContrarian 6.1.1

        Can’t listen to that right now – watching the cricket.

        But I do know that the threat of war/invasion due to a changing climate is a very real threat…if not to New Zealand but in the wider context.

        • felixviper 6.1.1.1

          From what I remember Hoots wasn’t really saying Indo would invade, he was more saying that if climate change was real, which it obviously isn’t, then we’d be at risk from invasion eventually, and if those stupid Greenies really thought climate change was real then they should be more focused on defense, but he doesn’t care because it’s all a big hoax anyway.

          Or something like that.

          For what it’s worth, I agree with him – and you. (Not about climate change being a hoax, about the need for more focus on defense as an isolated food producing country in a rapidly changing world.)

          • TheContrarian 6.1.1.1.1

            I don’t think climate change is a hoax.

            I’m not sure Hooton does either. Not from anything I have read of his (which isn’t comprehensive admittedly).

            • felixviper 6.1.1.1.1.1

              Sorry TC, didn’t mean to suggest that you did. I meant I agreed with you about the potential for threat of invasion, not with whatever opinion Hooton is being paid to have on climate change.

              • TheContrarian

                Yeah I think we’ll be OK but in the worst case scenario a lot of places will find themselves under some extreme pressure from their neighbours.

                Not a pleasant vision of the future.

                • RedLogix

                  For what it’s worth I thought Hoots was for once making a valid (if somewhat mischievous) point.

                  While I think it implausible we’ll see lots of Indonesian boat people anytime soon; it’s not unrealistic to think that in maybe a few decades large shiploads of refugees from anywhere on the planet might start arriving in numbers. That poses some pretty intractable tactical problems for us because by the time they arrive in our territorial waters, it’s too late to send them anywhere else.

                  Given that shooting them out of the water isn’t a good option, perhaps we could let the people stay … but scrap the ship. The world would pretty soon run out of suitable ships and the process would be self-limiting?

                  • Surely if these people make the journey at great risk to themselves and their families because they are escaping ‘whatever’ then they should be looked after – I don’t really get why that is so difficult – is it a bunker mentality perhaps.

                    • RedLogix

                      That’s exactly what I said. The ‘shooting them out of the water’ crack is black irony.

                      But exactly how many refugees would you be happy to see here? Got a number in mind?

                    • No the number is irrelevant and focusing on that is focusing on scarcity – I’d rather try and look after those less fortunate, scared witless, suffering people and if that means some rich arseholes lose their second or third house to put people in I say good!

                      edit – oh and maybe some of the dairy farmers can cut their cows down and the land could be used for the common good instead of their selfish greed too.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      But exactly how many refugees would you be happy to see here? Got a number in mind?

                      It wholly depends on the systems we set up to receive and integrate them, and what we as a nation expect from them.

                      But at an absolute maximum responding to extreme humanitarian circumstances, I would suggest 1 refugee per year per 500 resident NZers.

                      That’s 9,000 refugees per year.

                    • RedLogix

                      9,000 per year … or a couple of big ships. At most.

                    • Colonial Weka

                      I’d want to see how many people NZ land can sustain, bioregion by bioregion, and then we can think better about who we can welcome.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      9,000 per year … or a couple of big ships. At most.

                      Yep. Could we physically do much larger numbers? Sure, for a short time. Maybe 100,000 pa for a year or three. But that would end real quick with a political or social backlash.

                    • yeah so each according to their need is only for some, preferably those like *us*. Any number is bogus because it automatically implies triage and a grasping of privilege for those already here, maintained at the expense of those who really need help. Why is any particular person here more deserving than someone arriving in need of help – they aren’t in my book.

                    • lol ‘social backlash’ – from who?

                      just another nimby argument cv

                    • Colonial Viper

                      You’re right of course MM. But too many NZers are just fine with NZ children hungry and in poverty. What makes you think they would give that much more consideration to children from far away lands.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      just another nimby argument cv

                      yeah, it is. And at a certain stage, a political party is going to use it very effectively and throw the other lot out. No refugees then.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      yeah so each according to their need is only for some, preferably those like *us*.

                      Not really, because as you know, we can’t even apply this to New Zealanders.

                    • RedLogix

                      Well MM so no upper limit? OK … there will be around 9b people on earth sometime soon. If say 20% of them become climate refugees, that’s 1.8b people.

                      If just 5% of them decide to come to this country, then that’s oh … 100m people. (Back of envelope guesswork … feel free to insert your own assumptions)

                      How do you imagine that might work out ? In terms of who really owns this country?

                      I’m not being mischievous, just tossing around some sense of the magnitude of the challenge and what choices we might face.

                    • It just sounds like a version of yellow peril to me red.

                      My conclusions within this thread are based on NEED and the ability to get here through the almost insurmountable hardships and difficulties, not putting planes on to fly them here.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      If 0.5% decide to come to NZ that’s 10M people. You know in a situation like that RL, some ugliness will be inevitable.

                    • and I am not meaning to imply racism here in any way. I agree it is a big problem that we need to think about and get ready for. I just think the opportunities to help people outweigh the fear of being overrun.

                    • RedLogix

                      Yellow peril? It’s precisely the same scenario Maori faced in the 1840′s … there were only some several hundred thousand of them and the European colonisers, while sailing in tiny, dangerous ships from the far-side of the planet, numbered in their tens of millions. And we’re still trying to mop up the consequences of that.

                      Numbers are not racist.

                    • very ironic indeed

                      as tangata whenua have somehow retained the culture and as that culture has evolved into what we see today, I’m sure ‘kiwi’ culture will do the same if it robust enough and if it actually exists

                    • McFlock

                      on the bright side, it would sort out the 2050 retirement bubble problem.

                      Less flippantly, though, I don’t reckon that all that many folks would actually be in a position to make the trip, and I similarly think that those that try for NZ would still be in deep strife, like they would be today if they tried (our glorious leader’s “intelligence” notwithstanding).

                      We still need to start using our land sustainably, though. Move away from cows and start planting environment-suitable crops. I wonder if olives or dates would grow well in canterbury? Apply the same methods that put wine in Central Otago.

          • geoff 6.1.1.1.2

            Let’s not forget that when Hooton raised that issue, it was completely unrelated to what was being discussed. He only raised it to have a go at the Greens because they are the only party pushing properly left wing policies.
            He then went on to sing the praises of David Shearer. Hmm.
            I presume he is pursuing this campaign because he, and the Right, are shitting themselves that real left wing ideas might start getting traction in NZ.
            His thinking will be: If National can’t get a third term then at the very least the growing Green influence must be minimised in the next Labour led government.

        • Colonial Weka 6.1.1.2

          “But I do know that the threat of war/invasion due to a changing climate is a very real threat…if not to New Zealand but in the wider context.”

          Yes, but the US is likely to get in first. Anyone commenting on an American invasion of NZ once tshtf?

          • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.2.1

            Yes, but the US is likely to get in first. Anyone commenting on an American invasion of NZ once tshtf?

            The US prefers to expand its empire through political and economic domination, not occupation. It does use it’s many international military bases to project both military might and act as economic incentives to the host country, however.

            China is the same. China doesn’t want to be an occupying colonial power like Britain, Spain, France or Belgium was. You don’t need to be in this globalised world of trade and capital flows that they created.

            • Colonial Weka 6.1.1.2.1.1

              At the moment. We were talking about when the CC/PO resource wars start. You may be right though. Another term or two of NACT and I’m sure all sorts of things will be set up that we don’t know about so that when tshtf we will become a state of the US rather than an occupied territory.

        • James Henderson 6.1.1.3

          During severe climate change, the last thing any country in the world is going to have the resources to do is mount an ultra-long range seaborne invasion, presumably followed by mass colonisation. Far more cost-efficient to try to shore up what they have.

          Of course, there will be resource wars in neighbouring countries but a situation like Hoots dreams of is just nuts.

          And he knows it, it’s just an excuse for him to claim that the Greens are not genuine about climate change (because they don’t support the military investment he claims is needed), and, therefore, climate change isn’t real.

          • RedLogix 6.1.1.3.1

            I’m not so sure James. The lights won’t go out all over the world all at once … and while things may well be going to hell in the proverbial hand basket … there will still be plenty of resource for the powerful and desperate to grab a hold of to use for foreign military adventures. Especially if there is a nice juicy prize waiting for the taking.

            And first in, first served.

            I think we’re in for some very unpleasant surprises.

            • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.3.1.1

              You formulated it better than I could RL.

              Consider ancient empires like the Romans. Even as their massive empire collapsed, even as its territories and budgets shrunk, even as it’s legions were being tested and found wanting, its politicians continued to pour more and more resources into its military and finding ways to augment it including hiring mercernaries.

              All at massive cost to its society, all in the hope of holding empire together and finding a way out of a poor dead end.

              And yes, the final collapse of the Roman Empire was not fast, it took centuries for its last remnants to disintegrate.

              I think we’re in for some very unpleasant surprises.

              Yeah.

              And we better be well prepared.

              • Colonial Viper

                Try this CW

                http://www.postcarbon.org/blog-post/508186-the-peak-oil-crisis-the-german

                Pretty sure that the US army knows all about peak oil and what is in store for it. They won’t be waiting until things are so bad they can’t travel and plunder.

                I think that its one of the driving factors behind the rapid development of drone warfare.

                • Colonial Weka

                  Thanks CV. I deleted my comment because I decided it was too depressing to contemplate without offering any solutions.

                • Afewknowthetruth

                  It seems that the only thing that can save us is another ‘Carrington event’ – an eruption from the Sun of such great intensity it burns out all electronic devices and grid infrastructure.

                  We are about due for one but they are terribly unpredictable and the next one may come too late to save us from the industrial-military-financial complex and its perpetual war machine.

              • Matthew Hooton

                Exactly, history shows us that climate change causes wars. And if the more extreme forecasts of catastrophic climate change came true, especially if they happened quickly so mitigation measures (dykes etc) could not be undertaken in time, then of course there would be a global conflagration worse than World War Two, and New Zealand would certainly come under threat of military invasion (boat people are neither here nor there – any boat people who make it all the way to NZ have more ingenuity and talent than the average person brought in under the business migrant scheme so that I reckon they should be allowed to stay). So when politicians say they believe in sudden 10 metre sea level rises unless Kyoto gets expanded to the US, China and India (which it never will be), then they be asked what their defence policy is, and if they say they don’t believe in a massive military build up then it raises the question of whether they are really serious about what they say about climate change.

                • yes the politicians and their minions will use any and all issues to push their agenda of increased spending to their mates and pet projects. Climate change is just one issue used to argue that bigger defense budgets are needed and spy budgets too – it is an old story but still effective whilst the society, in which they are kings and queens, unravels in front of their eyes.

                • Ennui in Requiem

                  Some sense from Matthew, well done. It would be nice to see all the whole mainstream commentary take the realities of our age seriously.

                • RedLogix

                  The moral question this issue poses is something like:

                  You are in a lifeboat, there are 10 of you with room for 30 more. There are 5000 people in the water swimming towards you.

                  Now for sure you can take on the extra 30, and maybe another 100 could cling to the sides for a while. But 5000 will send you all into the sea.

                  Pausing to take on the 30 nearest swimmers will likely mean that many of the 5000 will also arrive.

                  Row like hell?

                  • vto

                    Grab onto anything that floats and pray methinks.

                  • your framing of the question is not correct at all red imo. You can live, you can die, you can live, you can die – what basis are you deciding – first in, like the look, let’s see your passport – it is all rubbish. What moral right do you have to decide – zero. It seems similar to the people that hide in a bunker and after everything is devastated they come out to rebuild – I’d rather die with the people than survive with the bunkerites.

                    so I suppose I’ll get chucked out of your liferaft – and I can live with that

                    • RedLogix

                      That’s a perfectly fair answer mm. Certainly you have the right to make that decision for yourself and I would respect that. If that meant jumping or being pushed overboard you’ve certainly made a moral choice that you will likely die with. How that squares up with you depends I guess on your view of the life of the human soul … and whether this life is all that matters.

                      But would you impose that decision on the nine others in the boat with you? In other words this question has a political as well as a personal dimension.

                    • I would fight against a policy that closed the boarders to those in need and I would fight hard. I will also fight against increased defense to ‘protect’ us and the way of life that so many love even as it disintegrates around us. I will additionally fight against what I consider bogus arguments by some (not you because I believe you are genuine in your concern) that exaggerate the issue to further entrench the privilege they enjoy.

                      we all die red the question is how we live

                    • vto

                      lol. It is ironic how you advocate for a special place just for Maori in New Zealand due to first in first served and the treaty yet here you walk away from that principle.

                      Malleable principles depending on your own personal circumstances. How surprising.

                    • RedLogix

                      I wouldn’t be too chirpy vto. I think mm was giving honest answers to a very tough question. Perhaps a question that doesn’t have an answer. Expecting perfect logical and moral consistency from humans is a tough call.

                      But mm did put up his hand to state what he believes and I respect that….

                    • vto

                      The two approaches do not match up RL. Your particular scenario here may have been a tough issue however the placing of various races within one boundary for an indefinite period is equally tough.

                      “Expecting perfect logical and moral consistency from humans is a tough call.” That’s right. It’s tough and few measure up.

                    • It’s okay red vot is a dickhead and doesn’t have many clues – I have tried to be honest to your honest comments and I know that we both know that. Kia kaha.

                    • RedLogix

                      I’d like to think the three of us would likely enjoy a few beers and good korero if we could….

                    • lol maybe on that bloody lifeboat as the two of you levered me over the edge… but seriously as far as I can work out we all have more commonalities than differences as is often the case. I am a bit naughty with vto – I shouldn’t wind him up so much – but it is fun and hard to resist especially when he gets on his high horse – my bad, must try harder to be nice :)

                    • vto

                      Aaaaarrrggghhh !!!!!!

                • Colonial Viper

                  I’m a believer that we need to be strengthening the Defence Forces to be a strong territorial and local pacific operator, not stripping men and women out and civilianising it. Nor equipping it to fight faraway wars on behalf of faraway imperial powers.

                • Rogue Trooper

                  most sensible for a change

            • marty mars 6.1.1.3.1.2

              I think the rich and famous are already doing this aren’t they – I mean coming here and buying a bolthole with the govt putting a nice bunch of flowers on the table to welcome them in.

  7. vto 7

    Had a couple of cracks at bigotry in its various guises over last longish period and the conclusion arrived at, especially in light of this from someone who clearly has clues about life in other spheres, is that racism and race relations (and most forms of bigotry) in this country are a cesspit. Bubbling and stinking. Nobody wants to go near it. Nobody can understand what is at the bottom of it. Everybody drops their own form of shit into it and says their neighbours shit is the shit that stinks. It is horrid, putrid, and pervades everything so much that people hold their nose whenever someone pokes their head up from the cesspool. It is a mess, unfathomable and should be filled in. It is a blinkin’ joke. Everything about the entire issue is ridiculous and everybody sees nothing, hears nothing and speaks nothing. It is a big fucking nothing and everything.

    • Oh shut up you sanctimonious wanker – ‘cracks at bigotry’ lol – what did you do tell yourself off in the mirror.

    • vto 7.2

      Evidence of the stinking pile of shit that is bigotry amongst all parts of the New Zealand population lies right here in front of the noses…. bigotry from Prosser in fact comprised three parts, yet it was only one that the dumb majority take offence to. The other two forms of bigotry, namely against the young and particularly the male, have been completely ignored.

      stinking pile of shit for brains this entire issue

  8. saarbo 8

    There seems to be a real lack of quality control when Parties choose their MP representatives. This guy is just an idiot, then there is Horan. What was going through Winston’s mind when he chose these guys???

    • Te Reo Putake 8.1

      I’d say the process goes like this:

      a) are you here for the NZF AGM (the croquet adjunct is next door)?
      b) do you have a large cheque on your person?
      c) Congratulations, you’re on the list.

  9. gobsmacked 9

    None of this is surprising.

    Richard Prosser’s views are not sotto voce rumours, they’ve been published in a magazine for years (a joke magazine, but still … it’s on the supermarket shelves).

    His views were known when he got on the list. Known when he got into Parliament. Well known now, and of course well known before the next election campaign.

    It wasn’t a surprise when ACT’s candidate for the Sensible Sentencing Trust turned out to be a time-bomb. It wasn’t a surprise when a party (United Future) based on a merger with religious nutters turned out to contain … religious nutters. And it’s not surprising that NZ First brought at least one bigot into Parliament.

    That’s why I don’t vote for them, and don’t want them in the next government. Labour and the Greens shouldn’t want them either.

  10. tsmithfield 10

    What is telling for me is that Winston hasn’t sacked the guy immediately. When it all boils down, Winston has shown himself to be not much better with his veiled attacks on Asians over recent years. I think any party who ties themselves to NZ First will be tainted by association.

    • Mike 10.1

      Is he allowed to sack someone for his personal views? (free speech and all that). I’m not saying he shouldn’t be sacked because in my opinion he should. But am wondering on the whole legal side of sacking someone. Although obviously he can be dropped as a party member immediately.

      I would suggest that neither National or Labour would care less about being tainted if it meant being in Government or not.

      • Colonial Viper 10.1.1

        But am wondering on the whole legal side of sacking someone.

        Don’t worry about it. Winston would be expelling the bastard from NZ First, that’s all. Prosser would still, lol, be an MP and fully employed.

    • Pascal's bookie 10.2

      Not much different from that guy who went on about immigrants spitting in the street. In fact, Peters claimed that that guy stole his immigration policy.

      I think you voted for that dude didn’t you. Don Brash his name was. Remember him? kept going on about ‘Mainstream’ this, ‘Iwi/Kiwi’ that.

  11. McFlock 11

    The same political discipline that created 20 years or more of doing fuck all about climate change will probably mean that the yanks aren’t much of a worry until they’re in no position to do anything. I think they see drones as a panacea for the issue they were getting into (where losing one bomber or ship might suddenly make an entire conflict uneconomic), but whether than comes to fruition is another issue. And drones can’t occupy ground, even land-based ones.

    China’s been playing the long game with global land buy-ups. But then that’s just acquisition, same as Roman conquest: it’s whether keeping that land is possible that becomes the question.

  12. millsy 12

    Ironically the likes of Prosser would find living in an Islamic theocracy to be very appealing.

    Women made to cover themselves up, no booze allowed, criminals get their hands chopped off, the death penalty, homosexuals strung up, no abortion or divorce, adulterers stonesd, Koran required reading in schools.A Family First/Sensible Sentencing Trust utopia.

    • Mike 12.1

      More likely a perfect match for the conservative party. (swapping the Koran for the bible of course)

  13. bad12 13

    Lolz you gotta love the bloke don’t you, Prosser that is, on a boring night you can see Him on Parliament TV,(the only time Winston unchains Him and takes off the gag), raving like a loon about the particular hair that has become ingrown and tickling what passes for His brain,

    This all is actually becoming quite fun, commenting on another web-site prior to the 2011 election i was going against the grain as usual and while all and sundry were saying that a vote for NZFirst was a wasted vote blah blah blah and the media’s opinion polls were casting NZFirst at 3.5% of the vote i was telling all and sundry, Wrong NZFirst would romp back into the Parliament with at least 6.2% of the vote,

    Here’s my pick for NZFirst for the November 2014 election, 4.2% maximum, 3.5% minimum, remember that wont you,

    Zetetic has hit the nail on the head as to why NZFirst was and is the gift that keeps on giving, the presence in this Parliament probably stopped the National Party from having the ability to Govern alone, instead the Slippery lead national Government had to take on coalition partners that are either anathema to the wider electorate and/or the electorate that they were imposed upon or by being part of such an abysmal shyster Government the coalition party has all but disintergrated,

    Winston has just about done his dash, most of the fires burned out now and what used to sound combative now just sounds repetitive, tired and boring, Brendon Who with all the charm of a snake-oil salesman and the smile that went on and off faster than a strobe light on a 1980′s disco dance floor who had aspirations,(snigger),of being the leader and who incidently is probably the only one of them other than Winston who might have been able to keep NZFirst in the Parliament after Winston, has been efficiently disposed of and accusations of raiding Mum’s stash will suffice for now as to why He got the bums rush,

    And now Richard Prosser,(take a bow Richard), has done the hard yards, solving the small conundrum of leveraging NZFirst apart from a slice of it’s vote, i almost want to send the retard flowers i am so impressed with His ability to turn a racist phrase and turn off a slice of His Party’s vote that no matter the amount of weasel words just wont be back,

    Sad to say, or glad to say, times up Winston, we resurrected you for a purpose which you have now fulfilled, an announced retirement with grace, or the undignified removal of NZFirst at the 2014 election is the 2 choices you are down to,

    NZFirst 4.2% at the 2014 election, that’s what i say…

    • McFlock 13.1

      Probably not far off, bad.

      I’m a bit surprised Winston didn’t drop Prosser as quickly as Horan, though. It’s one thing to even do a stand-down until things blow over, but trying to defend the guy is a bit much, even for the Asian Invasian dude.

      Probably thinks the bigot vote is more reliable than the financial scandal vote. Or maybe thinks that losing one MP can be regarded as bad luck, but losing two might be regarded as careless (to nick from Wilde).

      • bad12 13.1.1

        Oh Horan was a knee-jerk from Winston, there’s 2 threads there, ones a this is my Party ego trip, and the other is a genuine fright about the loss of the retirement belt’s vote,(lolz there is also more to that picture than meets the eye that is better left unsaid for now),

        The board of NZFirst were reportedly unhappy with Winston’s decision to send Brendan Who off to Siberia, the rumor being is ‘they’ thought that was their little power game to play,

        Lolz i would also like at this stage to thank Wishart for being a crap editor asleep at the wheel, not that i really believe He would have edited Prosser’s little diatribe out of the edition,(it will probably be the biggest seller of all time for that particular rag),

        So Winston isn’t sacking anyone without the ‘boards’ approval for the foreseeable future and while Brendan Who sit’s there alone He is mostly ignorable, 2 of them tho occupying Siberia would have Slippery slavering in anticipation,(He would probably gift Tauraunga to Horan to get 2 votes in the next Parliament)…

    • Rogue Trooper 13.2

      there is no “New Zealand” first! anymore; this self-reliant individualism nonsense is being our undoing, thread by thread.

  14. Brian 14

    You have been drinking.

    • bad12 14.1

      Ah such wit and stunning style of writing are seldom seen gracing the pages of the Standard…

  15. Afewknowthetruth 15

    Discussion about racism or the idiots we have in parliament serves an important purpose: it keeps people from thinking about or discussing things that really matter -like what people are going to eat when the industrial food system collapses (each other?) or at what point the Earth becomes largely uninhabitable due to positive feedbacks induced by out-of-control CO2 emissions (2040 or 2060?)

    I am sure there will be plenty ‘more bread and circuses’ over the coming few years -well mostly circuses and not much bread.

  16. Matthew Hooton 16

    It is very difficult to know who would win from the (welcome) disappearance of NZ First.
    Initially I thought it would be National – on the grounds that, if he had the balance of power, he would back a Labour/Green Government.
    Then I thought that Labour/Green would win because Peters would ultimately back National, so he could be the number two not number three party in a coalition.
    A new theory is that if he falls below the threshold, then there would may only be three parties in parliament, so all National has to do is win a handful of more votes than Labour/Green combined.
    I have written all three theories up and the NBR has kindly paid for all three.
    In the end, the main winner from Peters and his little band of racists, fascists and just plain morons leaving parliament would be New Zealand.
    PS. I think you have misunderstood my comments about the imminent Indonesian invasion. My point is that National and Labour don’t believe we face any risks, so they don’t spend much on the military, but that if you believe in imminent catastrophic climate change, flooding Indonesia and making much of South and Central Asia uninhabitable, then you would think we were at risk of full-scale military invasion over the next half century. But I don’t, so I don’t.

    • Te Reo Putake 16.1

      Speaking of a little band of racists, fascists and just plain morons leaving parliament, are you equally keen on seeing the end of ACT, Matthew?

      • Matthew Hooton 16.1.1

        That’s an academic question these days isn’t it?

        • Te Reo Putake 16.1.1.1

          You’re in a better position than most to know the answer to that question! Me, I think desperation will see National dance with the zombie at least one more time.

        • Pascal's bookie 16.1.1.2

          “That’s an academic question these days isn’t it?”

          So?

          What about the Conservative Party? how do you feel about that little band’o’bigots?

            • Pascal's bookie 16.1.1.2.1.1

              I think that’s the wrong piece, or at least, I can’t see how it adresses the question at all. perhaps you could clarify it here.

              The question is, do you think Colin Craig’s little band of bigotry would be a good thing to have in our parliament? A secondary Q would be, should the National party help them out, or ally with them?

              It’s no good saying he shouldn’t be a bigot, or offerring advice about how he might get into parliament.

              • Matthew Hooton

                I think the column entirely answers your question about what I feel about that band of bigots. Should they be in parliament? Well, it could be amusing. As long as they never had any actual power.

                • felixviper

                  For the rest of us who aren’t going to bother reading your article, can you just answer those questions here please?

                  The one I’m interested in is “should they be in parliament?” which isn’t asking “should they be in parliament if enough people vote for them”, or “would it be funny if they were in parliament”, it’s asking “do you think it would be good for the country to have them in parliament”.

                  • Matthew Hooton

                    If you don’t want to take two minutes reading my column, I don’t see why I should take three minutes to answer your question. You see, I’m not accountable to you in any way.

                    • quartz

                      Who are you accountable to, Matthew?

                    • McFlock

                      So you view us as both material for your columns and an audience for linkwhoring. That’s the trouble with tories – all too willing to slaughter the sheep for a quick buck, rather than gently shear it every year.

                    • felixviper

                      lolz Matthew.

                      I wouldn’t have thought it would take more than a few seconds to type an answer to “would it be good for nz to have a party I’ve already described as a bunch of bigots in parliament”.

                      But then I don’t have to check my invoice book before I answer simple questions about my opinions.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      Yep. Can’t see how could take longer to answer the Q, than to type:

                      If you don’t want to take two minutes reading my column, I don’t see why I should take three minutes to answer your question. You see, I’m not accountable to you in any way

                      unless the ‘answer’ was a waffley weasel of a not saying anything.

  17. Tiger Mountain 17

    Winston has always had dodgy (some incredibly dodgy) ring ins on board, and as said upthread his parliamentary return did the service of denying the Nats a total majority. It is up the left to generate enough support for next election despite him.

    • Ennui in Requiem 17.1

      The “Left” generating support hmmm. Reading this column and the round condemnation of the “racist” “moron” (plus all the other epithets offered) you might wonder how the “Left” might garner support?

      I suggest the clear winner of this little missive about “Wogistan” is Winston. It is worth votes, and his mans words actually strike a chord that the “Left” has failed to anticipate and address. Lets get real: whether we like it or not there is a large segment of the voting public who fear “terrorists”. There is a large sector of the voting public who fear “foreigners” and “illegal immigrants” (especially if they are “darkies”). And given the prevalent propaganda of fear foisted on us all by the media who can blame them.

      Recently I got very pissed off that I had to queue to go through “security” to get on a plane, and asked the blokwart on the scanner if he had ever caught a terrorist. This elicited a reply that I was out of order and that the threat was real (plus a threat to use his “powers” to detain me). What this unpleasant exchange reiterated to me was the very real acceptance by my fellow travelers in any threat. Not a head nodded support for my position, reaffirming general acceptance of a “threat”.

      Whilst Winnies man goes on about “Wogistan” I dont hear Shearer declaring that we have been duped into paranoia. I dont hear the “Left” putting the fears of a large sector of the electorate to bed. Nor addressing some of the very real fears raised (such as there being a generation of terrorists out there : albeit raised most likely by US policy).

      So we (quite rightly) shoot the messenger, take the high moral ground and ignore the recipients. These people then vote for Winnie. Haven’t we done well!

      • vto 17.1.1

        Well described. It is but one matter in this area which just goes whoooosh over the left’s heads. Some heavier thinking is needed by the left to, as you say, understand the “non-left” view on these things and then to articulate their own position taking ito account that non-left view.

        May even lead to some more votes

      • Rogue Trooper 17.1.2

        “we get the leaders we deserve” -Major Campbell Roberts ( “NZ has not learnt from history and do not have the right leadership to overcome problems”) IN todays Dom.

  18. unicus 18

    Prossers comments though somewhat crude underline a challenging dilemma for both Liberal and Conservative proggressives in how to identify and deal with the latent and blatant racisim present in all of us .His provocation also invites discussion of how we approach the inevitable conflicts of values generated a by the presence of a Muslim diaspora in our society.

    Liberal Progressives have a sharper dilemma generated by our instinct to defend Muslims because of an overiding obligation to the principle of equal consideration of interest within our society . We are at the same time challenged by elemets contained in Islamic digma repugnant to liberal values – a case in point is misogamy

    Both Liberal and Conservative progressives are challenged so by the fact that many within the Muslim diaspora here are at one with the aspirations of Islamic states in their resistance to Americam hegemony . The United States of America is our principal ally to which New Zealand owes a permanent debt of gratitude for its very existance .after the Americans prevented the Japanese invasion of our country . New Zealanders cannot ant will never resile from that debt

    Prossers outburst may represent simply the resentment many people feel at the inconvenience of heavy handed airport security after 9/11 or possibly a deeeper resentment sourced from the attacks by Muslims on vulnerable targets in countries allied with America . However retaliotory they may have been , they were acts of war perpetrated by Muslims .targeting Non -Muslims

    It may not be rational but it is reasonable to accept that many people identify Muslims as being responsible for the public affront to their privacy and freedom every time they catch an aircraft .

    These and other issues require sober analisis both by our Muslim diaspora and by those interested in its presence here . Hysteric denunciations of a clumsy messenger will not unravel or salve the sources of tension highlighted by New Zealand Firsts MP .

    • Ennui in Requiem 18.1

      Thanks, I say pretty much the same above: the issue for the “Left” is mind share. We have not dealt to this issue well, and as you say our liberal thinking is compromised by reality.

    • Rogue Trooper 18.2

      More Wars of Religion to come.; Get used to it. Paybacks are a bit*h

  19. Roger 19

    You must be thrilled that RNZ Morning Report went straight to……George Galloway MP for a comment on Prosser! The man who was thrown out of the Brit Labour Party after cuddling up to Saddum Hussen. I also wonder if you can produce a headline without f*ck in it? The left are no fans of any debate are they.

    • fatty 19.1

      is this a response to someone? what is your point?

    • Colonial Viper 19.2

      The man who was thrown out of the Brit Labour Party after cuddling up to Saddum Hussen.

      Roger, why don’t you watch Galloway’s testimony in front of the US Senate, which will show you to be completely ignorant and uninformed and basically, a twat.

      Galloway sticks it to the hearing hard and good many many times.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnflzhtDkJM

  20. karol 20

    The underlying problem isn’t “terrorists” or “floods of boat people”, but global inequalities and the grabbing of wealth and resources by the “elites”.

    Countries like NZ have international aid policies that foreground the benefits to their own country’s trade, rather than policies to lessen global inequalities. Consequently people in poorer countries will be looking for greener grass. And global inequalities provide part of the impetus for recruitment by “terrorists”.

    The solution is to provide more income and wealth equality between and among countries – but, given the grip on power by the “elites”, I don’t see that happening any time soon.

  21. Rich 21

    Without them, National would have a majority alone.

    What difference would that make? Between Banks, Dunne and the MaoriNats they’ve got a majority for anything they want to do. If anything, they wouldn’t have the excuse for toxic ACT policies like charter schools or for keeping Banks as a minister.

  22. Rogue Trooper 22

    Some good insights in this thread, imo

  23. Daveosaurus 23

    Time to stop pussy-footing around the point. Start calling Prosser’s attittude (and that of his fellow-travellers) what it is: anti-Semitism. There’s no difference between the hysteria generated against the Hebrews and their religion eighty years ago, and that generated against the Arabs and their religion today. Once put into that perspective, it may become clear to the easily-led of Prosser’s fellow-travellers just what agenda it is that they have been fooled into supporting.

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    A Labour Government will promote physical activity, back our top athletes and help foster Kiwis’ love of the great outdoors by upgrading tramping and camping facilities. Trevor Mallard today released Labour’s sports and recreation policy which will bring back a...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Pacific languages recognised under Labour
    Labour will act to recognise the five main Pacific languages in New Zealand including through the education system, said Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. Announcing Labour’s Pacific Island policy he said that there must be a strong commitment to...
    Labour | 29-08
  • No healthy economy without a healthy environment
    Labour recognises that we cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy environment, says Environment spokesperson Moana Mackey announcing Labour’s environment policy. “New Zealand’s economy has been built on the back of the enormous environmental wealth we collectively enjoy as...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Better protection, fairer deal for Kiwi consumers
    Tackling excessive prices, ensuring consumers have enough information to make ethical choices and giving the Commerce Commission more teeth are highlights of Labour’s Consumer Rights policy. “The rising cost of living is a concern for thousands of Kiwi families. A...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Media Advisory – MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki Annette Sykes, Waia...
    Media are advised that this coming weekend, the MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki, Annette Sykes, will be on the Internet MANA Road Trip within the electorate of Waiariki. Speakers confirmed are Annette Sykes, Hone Harawira, John Minto, Laila Harre and Kim...
    Mana | 27-08
  • Internet MANA – Waiariki Road Trip: 29, 30, 31 Aug 2014
    The Internet MANA Road Trip hits Waiariki this weekend. It would be great if all MANA members in Waiariki could especially attend the public meetings and show their support for our Waiariki candidate Annette Sykes. Confirmed speakers Hone Harawira (except Taupo), Annette...
    Mana | 27-08
  • First home buyers $200 a week better off with Labour
    A couple earning around $75,000 a year would be $200 a week better off buying a two bedroom terraced Labour KiwiBuild home instead of an equivalent new build under National’s housing policy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe.  “National’s policy to...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Another Day – Another big power profit
    The latest profit announcement from Genesis Energy shows that the power company was sold for a song to the detriment of the country’s power consumers, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “A net profit of $ 49.2 million follows hard...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour embraces the rainbow
    Labour will work hard to ensure all New Zealanders enjoy the freedom to grow up and live their lives in dignity and security. Labour’s Rainbow policy, released tonight in Wellington, focuses on International Relations, Human Rights and Education....
    Labour | 26-08
  • National gets fast and loose with the facts
    In their desperation to make it look as though they are doing something about the housing crisis, National is playing fast and loose with the facts, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford....
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour will drop power prices for Kiwi families
    New Zealanders will get cheaper power prices under NZ Power, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The electricity market is clearly broken. With falling demand for electricity, prices should be going down. Instead prices are going up and companies are extracting...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour: Promoting sustainable tourism
    Ensuring New Zealand’s clean, green status continues to be an international tourism benchmark and reviewing MBIE’s oversight of the tourism sector will be on the radar under a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Tourism policy today, spokesperson Darien Fenton said tourism...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Skills shortage a result of National’s complacency
    The fact that there is still a severe shortage of skilled tradespeople, despite a growth in the number of apprentices, is a result of National’s failure to plan and develop the workforce, Grant Robertson, Labour Employment, Skills and TrainingSpokesperson says."The...
    Labour | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker?? – Mint...
    MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is calling for a radical overhaul of New Zealand’s taxation system with calculations showing that a minimum wage worker pays a ten times higher tax rate than the Prime Minister. o Minimum wage...
    Mana | 25-08
  • Labour’s culture of science and innovation
    Labour will create a culture of science and innovation in New Zealand that will be the envy of the world, says Labour’s Innovation, Research and Development spokesperson Megan Woods. “Labour believes that good science lies at the heart of a...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Improving life for our new New Zealanders
    New Zealand’s international standing as a community that encourages and fosters all cultures will be bolstered under a Labour Government with an upgrade of the present Office of Ethnic Affairs to a Ministry. Releasing Labour’s Ethnic Affairs policy, spokesperson Phil...
    Labour | 25-08
  • South Auckland housing crisis
    National’s HomeStart package is nothing more than a political stunt designed to beguile South Auckland voters, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. “Few working Pasifika and Maori workers in South Auckland will be able to buy their own...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Home buyer subsidy discredited in Oz
    Treasury advised against National’s policy of ramping up home buyer subsidies after it was discredited in Australia because it pushed house prices even higher, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Documents released under the OIA (attached) show Treasury advised the...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Nursing hours explain turnover and high-stress culture
    A staff survey supports concerns nursing staff at Dunedin Hospital are under increasing pressure and that the emergency department is in a critical state, says Labour’s Associate Health Spokesperson David Clark.  “An ED nursing survey at Dunedin found that 80...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Underhand tactics prove case for axing donations
    Revelations that schools are using underhand tactics to coerce donations from cash-strapped parents further highlights the need for Labour's plan to increase funding so they aren't dependent on contributions from parents, Labour's Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “By law New...
    Labour | 24-08
  • National applies band-aid to housing crisis
    The Government’s flagship housing announcement is a band-aid approach that will push up prices rather than solve the housing crisis, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “House sales to first home buyers have collapsed as a direct result of the Government’s...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Climate change focus on the now for the future
    A Labour Governmentwill put in place a comprehensive climate change strategy focusing on bothmitigation and adaptation, establish an independent Climate Commission andimplement carbon budgeting, says Labour Climate Change spokesperson MoanaMackey."This is about future-proofing our economy. Making the transition to alow-carbon...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Labour’s 21st century transport pledge
    The next Labour-led Government will create a 21st century transport system for New Zealand that promotes the most efficient and sustainable combination of transport options, says Labour’s Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour will rebalance the Government's transport spending away from...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Housing under National: the facts
    1.       House prices in Auckland Council valuations indicate Auckland house prices have gone up by one-third over the last three years. (Auckland Council) The average Auckland house price has gone up by nearly $225,000 since 2008, up over $75,000 in...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Labour irons out low income tax issue
    The increasing casualisation of work has led to many New Zealand families being disadvantaged through the tax they pay, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. "Many low paid workers are having to work two or three jobs to make ends meet...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Cornered Government comes out swinging
    The National Government is so desperate to keep its dead-in-the-water expert teachers policy alive, it has refused to rule out forcing schools to participate through legislation, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “John Key today attacked the Educational Institute for...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Pacific people continue to go backwards under National
    A report from Victoria University highlights the fact that Pacific people are continuing to go backwards under a National Government, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “The report shows the largest inequality increases were in smoking, obesity, tertiary...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Wellington transport plan needs to keep moving
    The failure of the Transport Agency to properly look at alternatives to the Basin Reserve flyover is not a good reason for further delays to improving transport in Wellington, Labour MPs Grant Robertson and Annette King say. “The Board of...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Labour’s focus on inequality, kids and better job prospects
    Tackling child poverty and removing barriers to people working part time to enhance their prospects of moving into a fulltime job are highlights of Labour’s Social Development policy. Releasing the policy today, spokesperson Sue Moroney said while part-time work was...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Political staff should give answers under oath
    The Inspector General of Security and Intelligence should use her full statutory powers to question witnesses under oath about the leak of SIS information, says Labour MP Phil Goff. “Leakage of confidential information from the SIS for political purposes is...
    Labour | 21-08
  • High dollar, hands-off Govt sends workers to dole queue
    The loss of up to 100 jobs at Croxley stationery in Auckland is devastating news for their families and the local Avondale community, Labour’s Employment, Skills and Training spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The company’s inability to compete in international markets...
    Labour | 21-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • The Press Leaders Debate – proof a newspaper can kill the internet
    No more beersies for you Mr Key. Seriously – was the Prime Minister drunk during this debate? I am so sickened by what passed as a Leaders debate, I will make this review short and vicious. Everyone involved in putting...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Voting starts tomorrow!
    On the telly, in the papers, on the Net, billboards on almost every street corner – it’s hard to miss the fact that there’s an election coming up. Everyone’s trying to win your vote on Election Day, September 20, (this...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Collins inquiry a whitewash before it has even started
    The farce whitewash that Key is trying to push through here for the inquiry into Judith Collins role in a hit on the SFO should enrage any NZer, regardless of how they vote. Whaleoil won’t be forced to appear, it’s...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Press Leaders Debate – Round 2 – 7pm tonight
    This debate is live in a Town Hall, Key has done well at these in the past, but since the hate politics exposed in Dirty Politics, expect real fury directed at Key. My guess is that Key will attempt to use whatever he...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • MANA hit speed wobbles – why Annette Sykes will win Waiariki
    MANA are my favourites. But of late, their transition from crawling to sprinting has hit some speed wobbles. Hone’s and Pam’s aggressive attitude towards the media recently is very understandable in light of how connected many of the media were to...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Soz Cam – PaknSave boycott of whaleoil continues – time to start a boyc...
    Cam is so carcinogenic now, not even his mates in the Tobacco Industry are talking to him any longer. I suspect only the Israeli Defence Force propaganda department are paying for content on whaleoil now. Cam says that PaknSave have dropped their problems...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • The Rock Fuels NZ Roastbuster Rape Culture
    This is making me feel pretty uncomfortable. Here we have an instance of Jono and Ben posing like “exposed celebrities”. But do you know what I’m seeing? I’m seeing two dudes who basically “roasted” a woman online (exposed pictures of...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – Why beneficiaries need advocacy
    There are times when I am wrong. I was wrong recently when someone suggested to me that AAAP should be eligible for government funding to continues its advocacy work. That was before. Before dealing with advocacy on a weekly basis...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • TheDailyBlog September Political Poll Has Been Kicked Off
    The Daily Blog’s August poll has concluded and the September poll has been kicked off, asking readers: What party will you likely vote for at this year’s General Election? You will see this month’s poll in the right-hand sidebar of...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – Jamie Whyte, leave that poor seal alone!
    Worse than showing mere lip service to Rainbow inclusion, ACT leader Jamie Whyte showed stunning arrogance when appeared at a candidates debate on rainbow issues hosted by the Auckland University Students’ Association last Thursday. The stunning hypocrisy was evident as...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Right wing can’t help but use scum
    Some people have been shocked that the traditional right wing party in New Zealand politics is so deeply embedded with scum like the blogger Whale Oil. We need not be so surprised. It takes a certain type to support the...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • EXCLUSIVE: National’s Ohariu candidate admits contact by Simon Lusk
    . . Wellington, NZ, 31  August – At a meet-the-candidates public meeting in the Rongotai Electorate, National’s Ohariu candidate, Brett Hudson, confirmed that he had been approached by “a mate”, who passed on a message from  National Party operative, Simon...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014
    Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Petition for Governor General of New Zealand to Investigate all the allegat...
      Now we see the inquiry will be a whitewash, that is secret, won’t be consulted with the Opposition, will have limited scope and will ignore Nicky Hager’s book, we must demand the Governor General step in and demand an...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Ashburton, 1 September 2014
    I NEVER WENT BACK to Aramoana after the killing. I had been a frequent visitor to the tiny seaside village back in the late 1970s and throughout the 80s. Its tall cliffs and broad beaches providing a colourful backdrop to...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Checkmate in 1 move – how could Slater have known what was in OIA request...
    And now we get down to the final few moves before checkmate. If the following investigation is right, how could Slater and Collins have known what was in the Secret Intelligence Service Official Information Act request that hadn’t been released...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • The Edge Posts Naked Photos Of Jennifer Lawrence Without Consent
    Today the Edge website – owned by Media Works – published fully naked photographs of Jennifer Lawrence without her consent. It is not OK to publish naked media of any woman without her consent, full stop. It is absolutely disgusting...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Bomber, Laila and Maggie – a highlight from Auckland Broadcasting Debate ...
    Bomber, Laila and Maggie – a highlight from Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, how good was I i...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Maggie Barry slags Laila Harre & blogger, audience erupt
    The Coalition for Better Broadcasting held their public meeting in Auckland last night and it became a fiery shouting match when Maggie Barry decided to slag Laila Harre and me off. 250 people packed into the Pioneer Hall off High...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • It has to be a full independent public inquiry and Key MUST front
      You know things are bad when images like this start appearing in the media.  It isn’t a ‘left wing conspiracy’ to point out the over whelming evidence of what is clearly a right wing conspiracy! If it looks like a conspiracy, sounds like a conspiracy...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Political Party social media stats – National playing Dirty Politics on s...
    Interesting data from friend of the blog, Marty Stewart, on social media likes and it shows an interesting question that post Dirty Politics should probably get asked…   …it’s interesting that Key has so many personal followers.  One wonders if...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • The depth of the National rot and the compliance of our news media
    I’m so tired. Aren’t you? I don’t want to read the news anymore. It’s awful and I feel ashamed of it. We live in a country that people all over the world would give an arm, a leg; their life...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Conservative Party candidate links smacking ban with suicide, sexually tran...
    If Chemtrails, faked moon landings and climate change denial weren’t enough, welcome to your new Minister for Spanking,  Edward Saafi... The anti-smacking law is to blame for youth suicide, youth prostitution and even sexually-transmitted infections, a leading Conservative party candidate...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word on the canonisation of Matthew Hooton
    Before we all start the canonisation of Matthew Hooton, let’s consider some home truths here shall we? While the Wellington Ruminator Blog, the blog who was previously mates with Judith Collins, now seems to have a crush on Matthew Hooton… …I...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word on undercover cops in bars
    Dunedin police booze operation labelled ‘creepy’ Undercover police officers drank in Dunedin bars as part of an operation targeting liquor licensing offences. While police said the inaugural operation was a success — with most bars found compliant — the Hospitality...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Judith Collins press conference
    Judith Collins press conference...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Angry Lawyer – Collins, Odgers, Williams and legal ethics
    We deserve better lawyers than Judith Collins Three of the worst offenders exposed in Dirty Politics are lawyers: Judith Collins, Cathy Odgers, and Jordan Williams. What Nicky Hager exposed them doing would be out of line for anyone, but from...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – Necessary Defence
    Increasingly climate change is becoming the main fracture line between political parties. Where political parties stand on climate change defines political parties and movements like no other issue. The Mana Movement like the Maori Party it sprang from, came out...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Why it is all over for John Key
    Image: Melanie D I’ve been confident that National will lose this election and that our focus should be on what a progressive Government needs to establish as its agenda in the first 100 days. Past that point, the establishment pushes back...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word to everyone who voted National in 2011
    I received this interesting email from a National Party supporter today… …let me say this to anyone who voted National last election – you should be ashamed by what has been revealed and what your vote ended up enabling but...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • EXCLUSIVE: Déjà Vu All Over Again: John Ansell confirms his participation...
      THE MAN BEHIND the Iwi-Kiwi billboards that very nearly won the 2005 election for Don Brash and the National Party has confirmed his involvement in businessman John Third’s and former Act MP Owen Jennings’ campaign to drive down the...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Public Broadcasting Auckland debate 6.30pm tonight now with Colin Craig &am...
    The Coalition for Better Broadcasting debate on public broadcasting happens tonight at 6.30pm in Auckland at the Pioneer Women’s Hall, High Street, Auckland City.  In the light of Dirty Politics and the manipulation of the media, public broadcasting is more important for...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Winners & Losers in Collins sacking plus what’s the latest on Slater...
      Make no mistake, there was no way this was a resignation, it’s a face saving way out for Collins, she was sacked.  My understanding is that National internal polls are haemorrhaging and that the powers that be within National...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Third party propaganda attacks incoming Labour-led government
    . . Further to a report by Daily Blogger, Chris Trotter, on receiving information regarding planned attack-billboards, the following billboard is highly visible to traffic on the southbound lane of the Wellington motorway, just prior to the Murphy St turn-off....
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Labour wins the Internet
    I’m sure I’m not the only one who tried to vote online for the leaders debate and couldn’t because the website was down. The next option was the txt vote, 75c a pop of course. So I’m not surprised that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Rotherham and the need to challenge willful bl...
    I haven’t been following the events in Rotterham too closely.  I’ve read about the basic issues and the culture of silence that stopped action been taken even after complaints were made.  That culture of silence is incredibly familiar, and described...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Review: Hairspray
      Oh Hairspray! What fun! Somehow I managed to miss the movie when it came out, I had no idea really what it was about though I felt it had a vague relation to High School Musical. In retrospect, that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Mounting global pressure against Timor-Leste’s ‘death sentence’ media...
    East Timor’s José Belo … courageous fight against ‘unconstitutional’ media law.Image: © Ted McDonnell 2014 CAFÉ PACIFIC and the Pacific Media Centre Online posted challenges to the controversial ‘press law’ nine months ago when it emerged how dangerous this draft...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Spies, Lies and When Campaigns Are Fried
    Like most of the rest of the nation’s political classes, I was eagerly affixed to TV One from 12:30 on Saturday afternoon to witness the downfall of Judith Collins.Whenever we witness the crumbling of a titan of the political landscape...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Whaleoil crushes Crusher
    Judith ends up shooting herself A new email has been released suggesting that Collins was attempting to undermine the head of Serious Fraud Office with the help of far right hate speech merchant Cameron Slater. Unbelievable!   She has been forced...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Rumours Judith Collins gone at lunchtime
    Brook Sabin first of the mark with rumours Judith Collins is about to resign – PM announcing a statement at 12.30pm… …Paddy follows… …Vance confirms..   …if Collins is gone by lunchtime, it will be because the PM understands the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • BREAKING: UPDATE on DIRT ALERT!
    Thanks to the information passed to Chris Trotter by “Idiot/Savant” from No Right Turn it is now possible to identify at least some of the persons involved in this latest example of attack politics. What follows is Chris’s response to Idiot/Savant’s timely assistance: Well done...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Comparing burning puppets, hip hop lyrics and drunk student chants to black...
    Watching the mainstream media try and obscure Cunliffe’s surprise win in the leaders debate  is a reminder the Press Gallery is in depressed shock. The current spin line from the Wellington bubble media in the wake of Dirty Politics is that...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Why has it all gone quiet on Charter Schools?
    They’re one of ACT’s flagship policies and the National Party have been gung ho in supporting them. So how come we’re not hearing Hekia Parata, Jamie Whyte, Catherine Isaac, et al singing from the rafters about what a resounding success charter...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall
    Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • EXCLUSIVE: Dirt Alert! Are the Greens and Labour about to become the target...
    WE’VE SEEN IT ALL BEFORE. In 2005 pamphlets began appearing all over New Zealand attacking Labour and the Greens. For a couple of days both the parties targeted and the news media were flummoxed. Who was behind such an obviously...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: the Press Council’s decision
    . . 1. Prologue . The Donghua Liu Affair hit  the headlines on 18 June, with allegations that David Cunliffe wrote a letter in 2003,  on  behalf of  business migrant, Donghua Liu. Four days later, on Sunday 22 June, the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The difference between Cunliffe & Key in the debate
    It was with much interest that I watched the leaders debate on Thursday night.  I watched with an open mind, always happy to have my opinion changed.  Maybe John Key is all the wonderful things that many say about him,...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Denis Tegg – When Did We Agree To Our Data Being Shared with ...
    New shocking evidence has emerged from Edward Snowden’s trove of documents about a program called ICREACH under which data collected by the GCSB is shared with 23 US spy agencies. Under new sharing agreements which appear to have commenced immediately after...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Independent Epsom Candidates ‘One Strike’ Crime Policy
    Best wishes to all of those who live in Epsom, Mount Eden, New Market, Remuera and of course the rest of New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Large majorities of NZ First voters would prefer Labour deal
    67% of those who voted for New Zealand First at the 2011 general election would prefer Labour to lead a coalition government if one is needed after September 20’s general election....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Jointly owned urban development agency for Christchurch
    “Given the strategic importance of the Canterbury rebuild, it is logical that the transition from emergency governance arrangements is overseen by the Prime Minister’s office, but to maintain momentum in the city centre an expert development agency...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Collins inquiry at best a Band-Aid, a permanent fix needed
    Collins inquiry at best a Band-Aid, a permanent fix is needed The Public Service Association (PSA) says the inquiry into Judith Collins’ behaviour must be accompanied by a process to restore the lost trust between Ministers and public servants if...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Association welcomes new Chief Executive
    “The New Zealand Police Association is pleased to announce the appointment of Heather Verry to Chief Executive. Heather picks up the mantle from Chris Pentecost, who recently retired from this position,” Police Association President Greg O’Connor said...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Young Voters Want Politicians to Grow Up
    Young voters want answers to the questions that directly affect them – but it seems as much as anything, they want politicians to grow up....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Climate Voter election debate to get big audience
    Auckland, 2 September 2014 - Tickets to tomorrow night’s first-ever Climate Voter election debate have sold out but an online audience will also get to see the event live....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • The Edge show disregard for consent
    The Edge has shown complete disregard for consent, for women’s bodies and in doing so has contributed to the wider issue of rape culture in New Zealand says specialist sexual violence prevention organisation, Sexual Abuse Prevention Network. Yesterday,...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • The Rock is Fuelling New Zealand’s Roastbuster Rape Culture
    The Rock are still displaying without-consent images of Jennifer Lawrence and other celebrities online. They are making fun of this without-consent action, saying that she was "asking for it", etc. They appear to be supporting this kind of...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • HRLA Condemns Murder of Filipino Human Rights lawyer
    Attorney Rodolfo R. Felicio, a member of the National Union of Peoples Lawyers , was gunned down while working on a land dispute in Rizal, east of Manila. Two caretakers of the disputed land were also injured in the attack....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • SFO lays charges for procurement fraud
    Two individuals have been charged in the Auckland District Court today with Crimes Act charges laid by the Serious Fraud Office for alleged fraud against Mighty River Power Limited relating to procurement for the Company’s Southdown power station....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Commitment to lifting wages good for New Zealand
    The Service and Food Workers Union has applauded the Green Party workers’ policy announced today....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Sykes: There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Winston Peters Shown up by the Civilian Party
    Even the satirical 'Civilian Party' has now offered the Taxpayers’ Union more credible figures for the ' Bribe-O-Meter ' than Winston Peters’ New Zealand First. The Taxpayers’ Union Bribe-O-Meter now includes, National, Labour, the Greens,...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Further criminal investigation into CTV Building collapse
    Police has today confirmed it will be advancing the criminal investigation into the collapse of the CTV building in February 2011....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Greens policy to restore link between effort and reward
    The Green Party’s new workers policy articulates an alternative to wage repression and job insecurity based on restoring the link between effort and reward, according to FIRST Union. The core tenets of the policy include implementing an $18 minimum...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Greens workers policy supported by union movement
    The CTU is supporting the Green Party’s policy launched today focused on improving life for working New Zealanders. “This policy shows the Greens commitment to collective bargaining as the best and fairest way to improve workers terms and conditions. It...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Research Scholarships for Cannabis Treatments
    Medical cannabis research will be boosted by $140 million if the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party is elected on September 20. Pediatric epilepsy treatment will be one of the main priorities for the research scholarships....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Ngai Te Rangi Change to Tribal Elections
    Ngai Te Rangi has begun a postal vote of beneficiaries to change the way representatives are elected to the two Ngai Te Rangi tribal organisations....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Greens’ commitment to pay equity welcomed by workers
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says the 58,000 workers they represent will benefit from the announcement by the Green Party of a commitment to pay equity and to a living wage for core public servants and contractors....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Real People Powering Real Policy
    New Zealanders from all walks of life have helped the Internet Party create a full platform of strong, progressive and realistic policies that will create a better future for everyone, says leader Laila Harré....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • University of Canterbury to help with forestry safety
    The University of Canterbury is to launch a new research project to make sure New Zealand’s new forestry roads are safe and are established with minimal environmental impact....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Time to get serious about ending homelessness!
    New Zealand needs a comprehensive set of policies that address the housing and support needs of homeless people as well as significantly increasing the supply of affordable, good quality houses and flats....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Hundreds to join domestic, sexual violence march
    Several social service providers from across New Zealand have come together to call for an end to the epidemic level of domestic and sexual violence in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Students helped with debt repayments
    New Zealand students now living in Australia are being reminded not to ignore their student loan debt as Inland Revenue expands its latest tool to help with repayments....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Launch of GenderNeutral.co.nz website
    GenderNeutral.co.nz are excited to announce the launch of their new website, GenderNeutral.co.nz ....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Factory farming debaters to look chicken in the eye
    MPs participating in a panel discussion about factory farming will come face-to-face with a real live hen, rescued from the claws of the intensive farming industry. Hettie the Hen will demonstrate to the MPs what little space is afforded to...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Personal Statement by Matthew Hooton
    Personal Statement by Matthew Hooton 1 September 2014 For Immediate Release “This morning I made comments on Radio New Zealand’s Nine to Noon programme about an attempt by staff in the Prime Minister’s Office to interfere in the appointment...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Worm turns down for John Key
    John Key struggled to coax The Worm above the line in Thursday’s Leaders Debate, according to Roy Morgan’s Reactor, the original Worm. John Key struggled to coax The Worm above the line in Thursday’s Leaders Debate, according to Roy Morgan’s...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Edge Posts Naked Photos Without Consent
    The Edge website, owned by Media Works have published fully naked photographs of Jennifer Lawrence without her consent....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Statement from the Governor-General on Ashburton Shootings
    The Governor-General, Lt Gen The Rt Hon Sir Jerry Mateparae, has expressed his deep shock following the shooting of three people in Ashburton today....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Update on IGIS inquiry into release of NZSIS information
    In recognition of the public interest, the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security, Cheryl Gwyn, took the unusual step of providing an update during the course of an inquiry and confirmed today that she would be summoning a number of individuals...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • An Open Government Plan developed in secrecy
    The State Services Commission sent NZ’s Open Government Action Plan to the international Open Government Partnership (OGP) Secretariat on 31 July. The countries involved in the OGP since its inception - from the UK and US to Indonesia and Brazil...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • KiwiRail; another year older and deeper in debt
    That is a lot of money and there are lessons that need to be learnt before we pour in another $1 billion....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Fonterra China Deal Demands Safe Supply Chain
    The future success of Fonterra’s deal to sell infant formula in China [1] requires all milk it uses be safe and for Fonterra to secure its supply chain from contamination by GE DNA and pesticide residues. There is now significant...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • HRC praises Auckland mum for speaking out
    Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy has praised an Auckland mother of four who went public after humiliating treatment by staff at The Warehouse....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Southern DHB refers disputed issue to Serious Fraud Office
    Following advice from forensic investigation firm Beattie Varley Limited, Southern District Health Board has referred the expenditure at the centre of its long running dispute with South Link Health to the Serious Fraud Office. The parties have been...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Letter 1 September 2014
    Last night’s TVNZ Colmar Brunton poll puts the left and right 60 MPs each. United and the Maori Party say they will go with the side that gets to 61 MPs. ACT just needs just 1.3% or 28 thousand Party...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Shopping Giveaway Harmless Fun For Kids
    Family First NZ is rubbishing claims by critics including Gareth Morgan that the New World ‘Little Shop’ promotion is harmful for kids, and says that kids should be allowed to be kids. “Children love acting like their parents and pretending...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Red Cross launches employment service for former refugees
    New Zealand Red Cross is encouraging employers to give refugees a fresh startwith the launch of Pathways to Employment, a nationwide work assistance service....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • EDS welcomes Labour’s Conservation Policy
    The Environmental Defence Society has welcomed Labour’s Conservation Policy including the key objective of halting the current pattern of indigenous biodiversity decline within ten years....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Poverty is falling and income inequality is not rising
    “A Roy Morgan poll shows that the issue people are most concerned about is income inequality. This just goes to show how the persistent repetition of a lie bewilders the public. Income inequality is not in fact rising. And the...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Rotary NZ responding to Fiji water and sanitation issues
    Clean water and sanitation are vital to health. In Fiji Rotary New Zealand have been targeting 22 communities that are experiencing severe hardship mainly because they don’t have access to clean water for their drinking, cleaning and cooking needs....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Work & Income shooting a Tragedy
    Kay Brereton speaking on behalf of the National Beneficiary Advocacy Consultancy group says; “Two people shot and another wounded, this is a tragedy and our deepest sympathy goes out to the family and whanau of the victims, as well as...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • 1080 Poison Deer Repellent not Effective – Farmers
    Four deer have been found dead within a farmer's bush block, after an aerial 1080 poison drop applied with deer repellent. The drop was part of a 30,000 hectare drop across the Northern Pureora Forest Park....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Employment Charter will strengthen migrants’ rights
    Establishing an Employment Charter for construction companies is a critical step to strengthening the rights of migrant workers that are fast becoming the face of the Christchurch rebuild, according to an alliance of union groups. The charter has...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Global March For Elephants and Rhino
    It’s a trans-national business that funds terrorist organisations, fuels conflict in Africa, and poses environmental, development and security challenges. The illegal wildlife trade is also a lucrative business, generating an estimated USD$20 billion...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • New series of videos aimed at disengaged youth
    From the people who brought you 'NZ Idle' (NZ's favourite web series about an artist on the dole) comes a new series about election time: Choice Lolz....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Picket Of Leaders Christchurch Debate
    KEEP OUR ASSETS PICKET OF LEADERS CHRISTCHURCH DEBATE TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 2nd, 6 p.m. ST MARGARETS COLLEGE, SHREWSBURY STREET, MERIVALE...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
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