Comments on: Key abandons Treaty settlement deadline

By: National’s bad fortnight at thestandard.org.nz

National’s bad fortnight at thestandard.org.nz — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:03:57 +0000

[...] week, Key didn’t know his party’s Waitangi and Maori seats policies, and was slippery on the Auckland Airport issue before finally coming down [...]

By: lurgee

lurgee — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:55:56 +0000

End of the day, it was still Key stating that National anticipated all treaty claims would be settled in 2014. No wriggle room there. He made a bollocks of it, and he’s made it worse by trying to de-bollocks it.

He should have told the truth, said, “Sorry, I came over all ditzy for a moment, that’s what happens when you are a man of no substance, I am too ephermal for my own good, ha ha. Now,lets just foget about that and go back to being mean to talking about policy. Oh, wait a minute …”

By: r0b

r0b — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:01:34 +0000

Hope I didn’t get y’all too excited!

Damn – now what am I going to do with all this champagne?

By: lurgee

lurgee — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:57:00 +0000

Shoot me now. That was 1st of February, 2007, not 2008.

Still, the policy was clearly stated, albeit not quite as recently as I thought.

Hope I didn’t get y’all too excited!

By: r0b

r0b — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:50:55 +0000

lurgee – interesting – 1st February eh! Well, you know what they say, a week is a long time in politics. Long anough to forget your own policy apparently.

By: out of bed

out of bed — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:27:30 +0000

So which is the more apt moniker ?
“the smiling assassin’ or
“Slippery John”

By: James Kearney

James Kearney — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:48:19 +0000

It was five hundred mate-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df111uej2KI

and he didn’t give a damn.

By: out of bed

out of bed — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:41:38 +0000

Some co-workers called him “the smiling assassin” for
maintaining his usual cheerfulness while sacking dozens (some say
hundreds) of staff after heavy losses from the Russian financial crisis in
1998.

By: James Kearney

James Kearney — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:39:41 +0000

I haven’t seen any evidence of anything getting lost in any noise here burt. If you want to see volume over quality head over to DPF’s place.

By: burt

burt — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:32:40 +0000

all_your_base

and so on it’s only a partial list! It’s absolutely ridiculous.

I agree, but then I don’t vote National either so I would say that. The problem you have is Steve went thread post crazy (must have been the full moon & the heat) with “Key wants to drop wages” and so your legitimate ridicule threads get lost in the noise.

Turn down the volume, crank up the quality.

By: lurgee

lurgee — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:23:45 +0000

As recently as the 1st of February, JK seemed a lot clearer about this:

The National Party Caucus today moved to confirm its position on the future of the Maori seats, which involves tying their abolition to the settlement of historic Treaty claims.

“The Caucus today confirmed that the Maori seats will be abolished, which we anticipate will take place around the time of settlement of historic Treaty claims,” says National Party Leader John Key.

“Around the time of the last settlement – which we anticipate will be in 2014 – National will begin a constitutional process to abolish the seats. The reason for such a process is that this is a major change of interest to all New Zealanders.

“National will also ensure more resources are available to help speed up the claims settlement process.

“I want to see an inclusive, tolerant society, where every New Zealander is equal before the law.

“National thinks there’s no place for ethnically-based electoral systems in 21st Century New Zealand,” says Mr Key.

(http://www.national.org.nz/Article.aspx?articleId=9245)

Obviously, he doesn’t read his own press releases.

By: out of bed

out of bed — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:00:19 +0000

“if Key did become PM”

Can’t see it

By: the sprout

the sprout — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:35:47 +0000

if i were in the National caucus i’d be starting to worry about what would happen to my party if Key did become PM

By: all_your_base

all_your_base — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:08:37 +0000

Hey burt, I quite agree that the odd small mistake is probably forgivable but now we have him saying:

we should(n’t) have gone to war in Iraq: mistake?
climate change is(n’t) a hoax: mistake?
we would(n’t) love to see wages drop: mistake?
we would(n’t) privatise the schools: mistake?
we would(n’t) drop part charges on GP visits: mistake?

and so on… it’s only a partial list! It’s absolutely ridiculous.

This is well beyond the “in a Labour Party I lead” type comment. This is a man who wants to lead New Zealand.

If these are “mistakes” he doesn’t have what it takes to lead. If they’re not, he doesn’t deserve to.

By: mike

mike — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:47:51 +0000

“roll on the election leadership debates’

Key will have Goff for breakfast.
BTW did anyone see Goffy foaming at the mouth in the house today it cringeworthy stuff