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		<title>By: Rex Widerstrom</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/key-aids-englishs-latest-rort/comment-page-1/#comment-177518</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex Widerstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once, Mr Ellis, in 1993, in a safe National seat of Hamilton West where I drew enough votes from National to let Dianne Yates win for Labour*, despite standing for a party (NZ First) which had only been formed that year and about which very little was known.

And when National&#039;s roadshow came to town there were more Ministers on stage than there were people in the audience, whereas I drew 600 people to hear me speak at a public meeting that went for for 3 1/2 hours. How many people do you think your beloved Mr Key could get along to hear him meander and waffle? (And how many would still be awake at the end?).

* Now if you want to berate me for something, I suggest you berate me for &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt;. Facilitating Dianne Yates being able to warm a seat in Parliament should, IMHO, be a flogging offence.

[I was down as a candidate in Ohariu-Belmont in 1996 with a view to paying for my sins re Yates by toppling Dunne, but alas The Great Purge of the Non Believers went through NZ First before election day and I was de-selected].</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once, Mr Ellis, in 1993, in a safe National seat of Hamilton West where I drew enough votes from National to let Dianne Yates win for Labour*, despite standing for a party (NZ First) which had only been formed that year and about which very little was known.</p>
<p>And when National&#8217;s roadshow came to town there were more Ministers on stage than there were people in the audience, whereas I drew 600 people to hear me speak at a public meeting that went for for 3 1/2 hours. How many people do you think your beloved Mr Key could get along to hear him meander and waffle? (And how many would still be awake at the end?).</p>
<p>* Now if you want to berate me for something, I suggest you berate me for <i>that</i>. Facilitating Dianne Yates being able to warm a seat in Parliament should, IMHO, be a flogging offence.</p>
<p>[I was down as a candidate in Ohariu-Belmont in 1996 with a view to paying for my sins re Yates by toppling Dunne, but alas The Great Purge of the Non Believers went through NZ First before election day and I was de-selected].</p>
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		<title>By: Driven to corruption &#171; The Standard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/key-aids-englishs-latest-rort/comment-page-1/#comment-177461</link>
		<dc:creator>Driven to corruption &#171; The Standard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] turns out I understated the latest National ministers&#8217; rort. Not only were the rules changed to allow ministers to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] turns out I understated the latest National ministers&#8217; rort. Not only were the rules changed to allow ministers to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scribe</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/key-aids-englishs-latest-rort/comment-page-1/#comment-177348</link>
		<dc:creator>Scribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have thought that if ministers were entitled to a self-drive car, they should be able to choose where that car is based.

Brownlee summed it up succinctly â€” this issue has &quot;bugger all relevance&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have thought that if ministers were entitled to a self-drive car, they should be able to choose where that car is based.</p>
<p>Brownlee summed it up succinctly â€” this issue has &#8220;bugger all relevance&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Glen Eden</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/key-aids-englishs-latest-rort/comment-page-1/#comment-177312</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Glen Eden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monty the issue is not the car its the fact that the car should be at the primary residence English lied to rort the system, assisted by Donkey. Do you get it or are you really trying that hard not to.


This is classic Tory operating, they couldn&#039;t earn it themselves in business they just take it from the working folk, real nice white collar criminals.

This lot are unbelievable when the hell will the money grabbing stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monty the issue is not the car its the fact that the car should be at the primary residence English lied to rort the system, assisted by Donkey. Do you get it or are you really trying that hard not to.</p>
<p>This is classic Tory operating, they couldn&#8217;t earn it themselves in business they just take it from the working folk, real nice white collar criminals.</p>
<p>This lot are unbelievable when the hell will the money grabbing stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Macro</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/key-aids-englishs-latest-rort/comment-page-1/#comment-177293</link>
		<dc:creator>Macro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 08:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The man has no shame! :(
As for the climate change rort - no you are right there - the big polluuters stand to rort the tax payers for billions courtesy of Bill et al.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man has no shame! <img src='http://thestandard.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
As for the climate change rort &#8211; no you are right there &#8211; the big polluuters stand to rort the tax payers for billions courtesy of Bill et al.</p>
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		<title>By: The Voice of Reason</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/key-aids-englishs-latest-rort/comment-page-1/#comment-177291</link>
		<dc:creator>The Voice of Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bit bitchy, Tim! 

At least Rex has given it a crack and, I presume, took the rejection on the chin. Would you care to enlighten us regarding the elections you have successfully contested?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bit bitchy, Tim! </p>
<p>At least Rex has given it a crack and, I presume, took the rejection on the chin. Would you care to enlighten us regarding the elections you have successfully contested?</p>
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		<title>By: zelda</title>
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		<dc:creator>zelda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No the limo is for official business only. Picking they kids from school , they can use their OWN car like everybody else.  Plus they use taxis all the time anyway. Limos have to be ordered so generally they are only used for functions you  aware of in advance . Key would be the only one  to have a limo on call for his use only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No the limo is for official business only. Picking they kids from school , they can use their OWN car like everybody else.  Plus they use taxis all the time anyway. Limos have to be ordered so generally they are only used for functions you  aware of in advance . Key would be the only one  to have a limo on call for his use only.</p>
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		<title>By: outofbed</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/key-aids-englishs-latest-rort/comment-page-1/#comment-177285</link>
		<dc:creator>outofbed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not as big as the climate change rort.?
watch this and get back to me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P70SlEqX7oY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not as big as the climate change rort.?<br />
watch this and get back to me<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P70SlEqX7oY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P70SlEqX7oY</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tanya</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/key-aids-englishs-latest-rort/comment-page-1/#comment-177278</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not as big as the climate change rort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not as big as the climate change rort.</p>
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		<title>By: Monty</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/key-aids-englishs-latest-rort/comment-page-1/#comment-177271</link>
		<dc:creator>Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>be careful here - I understand several Labour Ministers had their self drive cars in Wellington.  Those in glass houses ....

besides there is another reason why this is a sensible rule change - surely it is way cheaper to use a self drive car than the ministerial limo all the time as he could otherwise do.

But really you (and Hodgson) just seem so petty when you go on about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>be careful here &#8211; I understand several Labour Ministers had their self drive cars in Wellington.  Those in glass houses &#8230;.</p>
<p>besides there is another reason why this is a sensible rule change &#8211; surely it is way cheaper to use a self drive car than the ministerial limo all the time as he could otherwise do.</p>
<p>But really you (and Hodgson) just seem so petty when you go on about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Draco T Bastard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/key-aids-englishs-latest-rort/comment-page-1/#comment-177265</link>
		<dc:creator>Draco T Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tory governments - rorting the taxpayer for personal benefit a speciality along with giving their mates billions of taxpayer dollars so that they don&#039;t have to change with the times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tory governments &#8211; rorting the taxpayer for personal benefit a speciality along with giving their mates billions of taxpayer dollars so that they don&#8217;t have to change with the times.</p>
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		<title>By: vto</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/key-aids-englishs-latest-rort/comment-page-1/#comment-177264</link>
		<dc:creator>vto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>true eddie? if so, it just smells. what the fuck are these coozers doing? 

ffs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true eddie? if so, it just smells. what the fuck are these coozers doing? </p>
<p>ffs</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Ellis</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/key-aids-englishs-latest-rort/comment-page-1/#comment-177250</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You will have to get elected first Mr Widerstrom, which you weren&#039;t very successful at achieving last time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You will have to get elected first Mr Widerstrom, which you weren&#8217;t very successful at achieving last time.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Widerstrom</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/key-aids-englishs-latest-rort/comment-page-1/#comment-177244</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex Widerstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slowly my master plan is coming to fruition.

It surely won&#039;t be long before I can run for election, claim Australia as my primary place of residence, get given a Lear jet so I can pop home, and then set up an LCD screen on my bench and Skype in my infrequent speeches (when I&#039;m not busy pursuing my own business interests using my Ministerial business card).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slowly my master plan is coming to fruition.</p>
<p>It surely won&#8217;t be long before I can run for election, claim Australia as my primary place of residence, get given a Lear jet so I can pop home, and then set up an LCD screen on my bench and Skype in my infrequent speeches (when I&#8217;m not busy pursuing my own business interests using my Ministerial business card).</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/key-aids-englishs-latest-rort/comment-page-1/#comment-177242</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hay guys mountain out of a mole hill...ministers have always had self drive cars and untill a few years ago when a minister was caught drink driving in hers ministers would ofton drive themselves around town while they were in wellington.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hay guys mountain out of a mole hill&#8230;ministers have always had self drive cars and untill a few years ago when a minister was caught drink driving in hers ministers would ofton drive themselves around town while they were in wellington.</p>
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